Respect RvP, well that’s what Arsene Wenger is asking for.
I hope it [reception] is a respectful one because he did very well for us for eight years.
We campaign against discrimination, it was still the case last week so why should it not be the case this week?
Well I am not sure that the away fans at Old Trafford tomorrow will agree with our manager!!
And what kind of comment is this to make ahead of our game at lunchtime?
In Manchester United you have good players around him. His runs are fantastic, his technique is absolutely amazing, so I’m not surprised (at his success).
Anyway, who gives a toot about him, he’s long gone and we need to move on…
Today is back to the first eleven, maybe Giroud and Walcott will start, well, I hope they both do. The rest will no doubt be pretty much who we have seen all season in the PL games, injuries apart of course.
Those injured are Diaby, Gibbs, Szczesny, Rosicky, Fabianski and Gervinho. Oxlade-Chamberlain will undergo a late fitness test, or in today’s case, an early one.
We have had some battles with today’s opposition over the years haven’t we, especially since Wenger has been manager.
There was Dwight Yorke’s hat-trick in a 6-1 win for Utd. Sylvain Wiltord’s title-clinching winner at Old Trafford. There was THAT Arsenal fan’s face of celebration back in the good old days and of course, the Martin Keown versus Ruud van Nistelrooy during the Invincible season.
Not so long ago we witnessed Arsene Wenger being sent off and banished into the stand, arms outstretched and of course there was that horrid performance and result at the beginning of last season.
So what will today’s fixture give us?
Goals? Of course, plenty I suspect.
Mistakes? You bet there’ll be a few of those, especially with De Gea and Mannone keeping goal and if Santos starts at left back, well goodness knows what comedy of errors will be played out before our very own eyes.
To be honest, I’d rather Wenger played Jernade Meade instead, at least he has positional sense, ok he’s young but not too young to step up. But we know that won’t happen.
Manchester United are far from having it all their own way at OT this season, in fact they have gone behind early in three home games in a row – in the second minute against Spurs and Braga, and the 11th minute against Stoke. Fulham too went a goal ahead early in the game back in August, so if we turn up and are in the right mood, we too could get that early break.
Then of course we need to press on and score more, defend as if the players lives depend on not conceding and go onto shock Fergie, Dean and their merry men!
Head-to-head
- The clubs have met 215 times in all competitions, and their last clash at Old Trafford was the highest-scoring match between them – United won 8-2 in the Premier League in August 2011.
- Arsenal have not won at Old Trafford since September 2006, when Emmanuel Adebayor scored the only goal. Since then they have suffered seven defeats and one draw in all competitions.
- United have won six of the past 10 Premier League meetings between the clubs, with Arsenal winning two.
- This will be the 48th meeting in all competitions between Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger. Ferguson leads by 21 wins to 15.
A few Arsenal facts:
- We have scored fewer goals (one) in the first 30 minutes of matches than any other team in the Premier League.
- One of four Premier League clubs yet to drop points from winning positions this season – the others are Manchester United, Chelsea and Swansea.
So there you have it, score first and we could win if this seasons ‘ways’ are anything to go by but let Man Utd score first and it will be a long trek back.
Hopefully the squad will have watched the second half and extra time of the Reading game and learned from it. We need that kind of fighting spirit and commitment today. That is of course if we are to come away from old Trafford with anything.
Oh, and we need Mr Mike Dean to leave his Man Utd shirt, whistle and watch at home too, we really don’t want to be talking about how he robbed us out of getting something from the game….
That’s it for another day, let’s hope it’s a good one….
COYG!!! We Can Do |It
Morning all…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2227085/Arsenal-dont-scare-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-more.html
Morning all
Respect him? Never! I will however not boo him at any time…..in fact I will totally ignore him. I would actually go so far to state that I would not even piss on him even if his hart was on fire.
Cheap and misleading headline. At no point did
Arsene suggest – let alone state – that the Mancs had better players.
So whats wengers comment about good players around him then mean dgob… think you missed the point… why not add we also have good players then…? So wengers admitting they have better players than us otherwise he would of stayed and not gone there….! Always one…!
Morning all…
Good post Rico. Strangely enough I feel very positive about the early kick-off today. I think we can add to our 30% chance… 😀
Having just rewatch the Reading match. I have come to the conclusion that CJ25 and TW14 should never start on the same flank. We do not want another of this…
they were very poor together in the first half.In fact that flank was even worse than Serge/Miguel combo..
COYGS…
If Dean has his normal “I hate Arsenal shirt” on then we really are up against it…..!
Does wenger show some balls and some tactical awareness to mix things up a little and go 4-4-2 which would totally throw Fungusbum…? I bet not, same old same old I reckon, predictable and tippy tappy backwards and sideways…! I so hope not but thats what am expecting..! Please prove me wrong Arsenal and get stuck in and get at em they also don’t like it up em they poor at the back and we can expose that if we have the right attitude and commitment. The thing is will we..?
TT – I’m with you there, boo him, no, ignore him, too right…
Dgob, how do you interpret his comment then??
Sounds like Wenger trying to suggest Man Ure should really win today whilst being quietly confident we can take them. A bit of the old mind games in my opinion.
That said I’ve been on my prayer mat since midnight as I’m not so confident.
Thanks Tsgh, that’s easily solved, play TW14 centrally 🙂
And today I think he will, or is that me just hoping.Ferdinand is no spring chicken, they have no Vidic so lets hit them hard… Oh and De Gea is nearly as flappy as Mannone…
Good morning
they have more good players… not agree. They have is another way of playing which optimize theirs players qualities.
I hope James Rodriguez not joinning them on January. He is a top quality player
If we are to have any chance Wath, you have to get what you hope for. Play like we have been a we are doomed… But I don’t think we will play like that, not today…
As for Dean, I’m really hoping that Clattenburg has put the referees in the headlights. Everyone will be watching this game and its more than his jobs-worth to get this wrong.
rico – read that article last night. The media takes every opportunity to say something appalling about arsenal. Lets not forget that the team that went to OT(Schesny, traore, Jenk, Djorou, Kos; Nasri, rosicky, ramsey, arshavin, walcott; Rvpursring) last season only 1 member will be featuring today from the start Ramsey/Walcott. Not just that the team returned from a tough fixture to qualify for the group stage of the champions league against Udinese depleted. But the media wont mention that.
Wenger should be wise by now. What fergi does is he knows his team will not have much of the ball. So they will sit back and hit us on the counter. Just hope Santos is not caught up field.
Wengers comments on purstrings really are funny… he gave us 8 years he says…. No Arsene, WE GAVE HIM 8 YEARS… ! Fully paid and got one decent season out of him…!
Nor do I agree JM, James Rodriguez – could he be the one to replace Nani??
Ha ha Bgone, don’t forget to get off it before we kick off.
Taking it to the pub. 🙂
Emma, thats all part of us being “SO” predictable… Fergie thinks with his eyes shut that Wenger to stubborn to change tactics so he reads us every time………. Change the team tactics and formation and catch them on the hop…! Isn’t that what a manager gets paid for….?
WATH- I feel Wenger should change his tactics. We shouldn’t be in a hurry to push forward. Lets build up play from the back. If the attack fails we know we still maintain our defensive shape so we wont be caught up-field. I would prefer Ramsey to start ahead of Walcott since OX won’t be available
emma – I honestly don’t give a toot what they say, they all have their anti-Arsenal agenda’s…
We all have eyes, we can see what goes on and tbh, on paper, this is one of the stronger squads we have had in a while. If ever there is a good time to go to OT it’s now, they are not playing that well.
IF our lot turn up in the right frame of mind we can win today, it’s that right frame of mind I worry about.
If Santos starts at Lb and Ramsey out on the right, I think I’ll switch off the television and go out 😉
😆 Bg
WATH I agree if AW goes with his copy book formation we will have a long day at the old toilet grounds.However, AW played variations of 4-4-1-1 at $hitty, Stoke and Liver-poo but at Norwich, well he went the lazy route as usual. I agree a fluid version of a 4-4-2 instead of the rigid type we played at Reading in the first half on tuesday will throw the old boozer and his den of vipers and thieves completely off.
On the other hand with Santos in the team I will favour a Wigan style 3-5-2 to allow Rico’s bf a chance as part of the front 2 with JW10, and the spanish duo in the middle. I will personally sacrifice Poldi for a 3rd CB so that if needed we can go 4 at the back with TV on the left and Santos as far aware from the back 4 as possible…
Correction pls!
The last time we beat them at old traford was 2010/2011 season & the only goal in game was scored by ramsey in the 2nd half, not 2006 as you mentioned in your article. We’re hoping to win this one today!
I’d only have Santos carrying the drinks tray Ts…. The bloke is a liability, Aaron right midfield can work but right wing is a complete and utter waste of time, We need to hurt the mancs through the middle with pace and Giroud with Theo playing off him could achieve that, Play Santi wide left and Arteta and JW in the middle..! Lets get at em and see if they can cope not the other way round. Problem is Emma we go up there play teh ball around get nowhere and get hit anyway, we lack speed and width when we play with 4-5-1 and fergie knows that, we have no Gerv or Ox so play Theo in the role off Giroud which fergie would never expect and ferdi is a yard dog wont catch Theo in a month of sundays.
Emma I agree with your comment at 10:25 am but Le Coq started in place of the smelly Algerian Nastri as he had jumped ship like a thief through the window before the 2nd league match against Udinese..
The line-up that awful day was Wojciech Szczesny, Armand Traore, Laurent Koscielny, Carl Jenkinson, Johan Djourou, Andrey Arshavin, Francis Coquelin (Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, 62), Theo Walcott (Henri Lansbury, 84), Tomas Rosicky, Aaron Ramsey, Robin van Persie (Marouane Chamakh, 84)
Good morning all,
Wenger’s comments could just be mind games of course….but then again…
Rico your post is a nice blend of optimism and realism.
One thing I would like to see is a willingness on the part of our manager to make changes earlier than the sixtieth minute should the wheels be falling off. So often we see someone having a nightmare of a game being left in place for an hour when it’s usually too late to make a difference.
I’ll stick with my comment from yesterday, ” a point would be a bonus three points a miracle”.
Re-watching the Reading game its funny how the commentators had to mention that Young Miguel was on a yellow card whenever he was on the ball…
😀 Santos as a waiter? Are you sure of that? I bet he can’t even balance a tray.He looks like one of those blokes who should be selling map of tourist gear trying to chat up any western over 40’s lady who comes past him. 😀
I tink Wenger is playin a mind game by sayin Van-persie has gud players around him…
tsGH – thanx for the correction
No problem. I think the medias lack of knowledge on football may be to explain for not commending us on that qualifier. Udinese at that time were tipped to Serie A contenders. They had not lost in18 matches before we played them. And I Frimpong was super in both legs.
Udinese only dropped off after they lost controversially to the manure of italian football. Talking of cheats Juve have managed to beat our record even though everyone knows that opponents goals are disallowed over 70% of the time whenever Juve concede first in a league match…
Thanks JW, something makes me think a miracle is going to happen today….
A miracle you say Rico…………….. Can i make a wishlist………..?
It’s pretty long………..!
Well it’s almost time to take my place in front of the telly, turn off the commentary and listen to my relaxation CD.
Will we get a point or three?
Let’s hope we put on a show and it’s not wrecked by biased refereeing, diving Rooneys, Little Dutch Boy’s elbows and wild tackles from Scholes and Carrick.
Hi Rico,
Good post. Not sure what sort of mind games the Prof was playing, I agree with WATH, we only had 1 good season out of RVP, not 8.
Pity a strong and fit Diaby is not playing today, if he had remained fit since beginning of season we would be seeing a player with the ability to give the Utd midfield a run for their money, but that’s not to be.
Today, the team has to play with their heads, if we nip an early goal, the next ten minutes needs players to hold the ball up and not give it away cheaply like in past matches. The midfield has to bust a lung in tracking back and protecting the defence, and when the forwards have sight of goal, have a pop, and let’s attack their goal at corners, and attack the ball ehen its their corner, not pussy foot or get caught on the ball.
We can beat them today, but every player out there today has to focus on the job in hand, man up, and believe in themselves.
Let’s hope Arsene makes tactical substitutions if required, chanhes formation when required, as this is Utd not Reading.
COME ON LADS!! BE INSPIRED. WE LOVE THE FIGHTERS.
Live stream links will be posted in time. Stick around on HH.
Ha ha Wath, my list first 😉
Seriously, if the players heads are in the right place, we can beat them…. Big IF though….
Get Frimps on 89 mins and let him take a red for doing a dirty deed 😉
Back in 20, quick job to do in the garden…
https://twitter.com/ArsReportLive/status/264696763536003072
Lets get behind the team. COYG!!!
Arsenal: Mannone, Sagna, Santos, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Arteta, Wilshere, Ramsey, Cazorla, Podolski, Giroud.
Same old same old………….. So f’kin predictable…!
4-2-3-1………. Not in a million years thats 4-5-1 in anyones book…!
Oh deep joy… where’s the GG…………..! Off to the pub later people..!
This team is too predictable, sub jack after 60 min, ramsey to cm, theo rw….ramsey???
Why not TW?
rico, James and Nani are different players. I hope Nani leaves and James rodriguez not come in.
Come on Arsenal!
I don’t believe in this line-up
Morning housers, that micko was up to his old tricks last night again 😉
Rico apologises if I offended but sometimes i can’t control myself. 😉
I see Wenger is as tactical astute as ever in his team choice , Fergie must be quaking in his boots . 🙂
See you all on the other side guys!
Same old same old then…
Straight into the hands of Fergie….
Guys & Gals even Hollywood uses predictable formulas. Still that doesn’t make you less excited about the in betweens. COYG!!!
Live stream links. Don’t act or install anything on request. It will run automatically in 20 seconds. Chat boxes can be silenced or closed. Enjoy!!!
http://www.ronaldo7.net/live/manchester-united-vs/watch-manchester-united-live-stream.html
JM – very good question re Walcott, no flippin pace yet again, what a joke…
Oh well, we can but hope. I will try and control my comments today 😉
Manga 10.43….. maybe look before you cry for a correction… Ramsey scored the winner when we beat them at home NOT at the toilet…!
I’m sitting down now. Catch you at half time.
Thanks for the link Dg…
smudge, you do make me chuckle…
See you all at H/T
COYGss
TV and RVP cuddles all the way up the tunnel, flippin heck….. We are going into battle not a Mills and Boon story!!
COYG! !
WTF was that?
Nice to see Mike Dean remaining neutral!!
NOT!
This is going to be a looooooong night for me. Ack. 🙁
Hiya, rico.
Gosh TV! WTFWT?
Yellow card for that, Jacks first tackle… Pfffff
Hi agag, a long day, night, weekend and week if we don’t pick up a bit….
Wasn’t good Big S
Just isn’t right seeing him attacking our goal 🙁
No-one following in again.
Cazorla is doing f all
Good save from the Italian….
So is Santos….
Good morning Rico and All
What wrong with SC19?
He’s asleep Ng
Why Santos is on, I just don’t understand.
We are making our own problems… They are very average but we keep gifting them the ball….
Does anyone agag? its crazy…
Santi Cazorla:
“I think the key to modern football is having possession, the more you have the more you control the game.
“At Old Trafford we need to control the game and keep hold of the ball.
Well come on then, start trying to….
I agree with you 1:17. They are so average, and we’re worse. Come on, Santi, Poldi, Giroud. Wake up!!!
We don’t look .threaten at all when we go forward
Nice post…..
OMG
SC19 is not playing well because the team have no width, ramsey and pold keep coming infield so there is no space for him to operate, this team is not getting any coaching
And the fans roar: Theo, Theo, Theo…….
Surely he’s got to come on soon, we have so little pace.
Well I cannot believe what I have just seen. Wenger and RvP all loved up walking off the pitch and then RvP takes his shirt off and gives it to Santos!!
What on earth is going on, is this a pre-season friendly or something!!
whilst teams give their players caffeine and energy tablets, we seem to give our players E peels. Whose testimonial match is this?someone please remind me
Ramsey has been the best player on the field if we are being honest.
As usual Vermaelen decided to give his mate a head start. Pathetic.
Santos changing shirt with that traitor at halftime. I wish I could shoot SANTOS.
Ramsey has disappeared into oblivion giving Evra a day off.
We are too gentle in our approach. We need to up the tempo in the 2nd half. Loads of misplaced passes
We are playing again with 10…
What are Ramsey doing on the right?
TW on… AA on… Podolky out… Wilshere out
taking a man u player shirt at halftime????? Santos out
Imho Poldi and SC19 have gone AWOL in all the big matches we have played thus far.
@emma u r 1 million percent right bro
He is a crap defender but in the name of fucking ***** why does he have to get a shirt off him at half time!?
No fucking pride in his own shirt. can anyone see this happening at half time between MC Teves and a united defender?
OK, we got to half-time only one goal down, after a disastrous start I was expecting an avalanche. With Rooney’s missed penalty we are still in the game…just!.
Bring on Walcott for the second half, Ramsey’s about as much use on the wing as a chocolate fire guard.
This is a poor United side, in previous seasons they would have slaughtered us by now the way our defence is playing.
Could we be on the way to a bonus? or even a miracle?
Santos should not play for afc again
gdna – agree re no width, Pod is coming back to help Santos so that’s him gone, Ramsey isn’t a winger and he lacks pace to play there.
Ramsey has created our only chance in the match and he is getting the usual abuse. What have the so called fans fave players done?
Bring in Arshavin on the left and walcott on the right. Podolski and Ramsey offers nothing at the moment
Agree about your subs. We can still do this COYGs
JW, I love you half full glass but……
Another balls up by the skipper, how lucky did we get then….
Good call emma…
Vermaelen has been poor poor poor.
Here comes Theo….
that is me not watching again. How can vermalaen contrive to be so sloppy ;(
This is better….
emma, he’s been poor all season… don’t know what is wrong with him this season…
Good Afternoon my Esteemed Fellow Gunners.
Back from a 6-2 win for our under 13s.
Blimey. Are we going to do a sub before the 60th minute?
Wow. That is a change.
Cannot comment on the first half myself. But the stats speak for themselves.
Not sure what to make of the Manure goal. Podolski did not offer much protection toSantos who was too much square with their winger and thus left too much space to be exploited and when the cross came in TommyV made a hash of a clearance.
Great piece of play, but santos, what a shocking cross….
I wouldn’t mind replacing Verm with kos. Just stuck the boot on him. At the end of the match then you can have a handshake
That was a yellow
Hi devil…
Not sure Podolski was at fault…
That could have been a straight red for RvP…
Arsenal fans singing to Dean: Fergies Rent Boy’ 😆
TT – your 1.43 – no way re tevez, now wonder we are called soft eh….
Someone needs to wind RvP up, he’d be off…
Another good save by Mannone, offside though!!
That was a great fingertip save by Don Vito. How did the flag stay down?
Oh shitttttttttttt
That should never have been, RvP was offside, our free kick and attack gone…
Bloody linesman!
Evra of all makes it 2nill
Good god!
442 it seems now
Jack show a red!!
Proof AW is the worst manager in the world, simple stuff he can’t get right
TV yet again!!
Oh dear oh dear…
When RVP did the same against Barca he was sent off. But then he used to play for AFC. Now he has the godfather to defend him.
There is only one thing I would change AW for. The way a manager bullies the refs into submission has got to be SAF’s greatest skill. Sadly AW is lacking in it.
No bite from us at †ђξ middle… Begining to think that this Ȋ̝̊̅§ †ђξ worst midfield we’ve ever had
Walcott was lucky there, sloppy play from him let them in, offside flag saved us….
anyone fancy a Eur20 bet on AFC to win now? It can set you up for a Eur6000 windfall.
Only in dreams though.
@devil AW is shit
Different in the CL devil, refs are more picky…
No bite all over BigS..
Giroud has been really disappointing today, as has Cazorla….
AA on and already in the book….
GunnerDna if AW is shit and he is the best manager AFC has ever had than what does that make you being just a supporter??
bdw……I am no AW knows best so do not throw what you have in your hand at me.
These Team really lacks motivation, cus ℓ̊ know that these Man Shitty team Ȋ̝̊̅§ ɑ̤̥̈̊ shit full of basket players.Really ℓ̊ don’t know what Ȋ̝̊̅§ wrong?
Can they end this game now, please.
Questions needs to be asked. Why was cleverly not sent off. How come that save mannone made was not offside that lead to the 2nd goal from the corner. Oh I forgot it’s manure
Not sure Wenger is at the top of his game any longer devil….
dev AW is shit u cant justify failure to me, 8yrs and counting
emma – just emailed a friend the same about Cleverly, also, RvP could on another day, see red for his challenge which got earned his booking….
Totally agree re their second, the ball should have been dead after the offside. as the fans were signing earlier, Dean really is a Fergie rent boy….
gdna – that is such a sweeping statement – ok, you don’t rate him but just keep calling him s**t gets a bit boring…..
No I can never justify failure to anyone. I know its eight years already. But Rico was more polite than you…..he is not at the top of his game any longer. That yes.
But not shit. To know what something is really like either you have been shit yourself or else tasted it.
yes he needs to be replaced. but be polite about one of ours.
regarding opponents yes. you can call them whatever you like. but not someone who gave us many reasons to cheer.
Wow, how rubbish were we??
any afc supporter supports AW at this moment is not a afc fan, because this dude is lacks ambition is dragging the team with him
What a goal!!
Shame it wasn’t half an hour ago….
Cazorla got one back. To late now.
Rico its quite clear Wenger has lost it all, he has nothing again to offer us as ɑ̤̥̈̊ coach & it will be wise of him to step aside otherwise he ruins all †ђξ respect of †ђξ Arsenal fans & faithfuls
Too late the hero.
@BigS I hope AW resigns tonight
gunnerdna, please tell me, besides SAF, who else matches AW’s records in the EPL? and who would you replace him with?
you are entitled to your opinion gdna. but at least be polite about it.
as Rico told you……..its getting tedious now.
@nash, this is not about history u sounding like a loserpool fan, SAF is only considered great in england because of help from referees. Any other manager in the world could replace AW, SB would do a better job because he wouldn’t put players in his lap
Wrong replace… Wilshere must be out becuase was clearly at the first opportunity will be sent off. Look at the player of the MU: probably will be sent off if he plays for another team, but 5 minutes later, he was replaced by Anderson.
with so many defence errors, a team lack confident. When Arsenal, played in this way is for doing what? Win? hope some lucky for not lost for many?
In 10 games we are completely out of the League and with this average, completely out of the fist five places.
dev i wish AW was intelligent like you, sadly this is about soccer
Well Rico,
Walcott got his chance….and blew it!
Vermaelen has gone to the dogs since being made captain, problem is he’s better than Koscielny…just.
Mertesacker was the best player on the pitch for us,
Wilshire the only one to show real spirit, pity he took it too far.
A pretty pedestrian performance by The Gunners, no pace, no urgency.
A lovely strike by Cazorla.
It’s not much of a consolation but 2 – 1 is an improvement on 8 – 2.
gdna just now you said something which shoots down all your argument………SAF is considered great in England because of help from the referees. We see that week in week out. So what can you do if SAF gets help from refs? Nothing. But that in itself makes other managers look bad. No matter what they do.
Take today. Jack was running with the ball and he was the one to be sent off. Cleverly, RVP and Carrick should all have seen red. Did they? Evans clearly fouled Torres and should have been off. Who was sent off? Torres.
So please. just work that lump of brown matter that is residing between your ears first and then when you have managed to work it out then you will be qualified to call people whatever you want.
gdna ………. if I was intelligent as much as AW is then I would be earning around 7milion per year and be manager of AFC.
Sadly I am an AFC supporter. Just like you are.
dev i would blame the referee to allow SAF to sub Cleverly and don’t allow AW to sub JW, So please. just work that lump of brown matter that is residing between your ears first and then when you have managed to work it out then you will be qualified to call people whatever you want. AW is shit!!!!
The greatest mistake AW ever made was giving Vermaelen the captaincy. Kos was our best CB last season. He has now being relegated to the bench and now lacks match fitness sadly. It should be Mert and Kos at the CB
@gunnerdna, all you do is call people names, disrespect the team manager who has offer Arsenal so much, tell others that they never played the game. YOU have never offer anything of substance in this SITE but DISRESPECT the manager and bloggers of HH.
@nash who am i disrespecting on the site? I’m just being realistic, AW is clueless
gdna……I never knew you had a glass mirror for a computer/laptop screen.
I tell you that I agree with many things you say regarding subs, decision etc. But I do not agree with the way you insult people.
gdna, your 2.37. that is another sweeping statement, and way off the mark…
gdna,
Your knowledge of the game is as poor as I have seen in many years, No manager needs the permission of the referee to substitute a player. Cleverley was subbed after one booking and looked as if he was running out of control.
Wilshire, sadly, was also a bit over-enthusiastic, got a second booking and was sent off. There was no possibility of him being subbed after the second yellow, referee’s permission or not.
So if you still support Arsene you cant be an arsenal fan gdna? And what gives you this insight?
Its sad to say that I agree that he should go but just because some people still believe him to be the best choice for the club don’t make them any worse than you or me.
Wenger should have taken Jack off instead of Ramsey, second game back after nearly two years out..
also, their second shouldn’t have even been on the cards after RvP was clearly offside and the attack should have been over..
But, lets not use that as an excuse, we were poor until they scored their second and I blame AW’s tactics and player choice for that….
Wenger admits Fergie’s players are better than ours! i totally agree with him, utd should have won by 4 today….
Amongst all the recriminations…Mannone had a fair game I thought.
I have to agree with Emma, we needed a fit Kos in that game, he never gives up and was definately our best CB last season. Vermaelen slips and gifts a goal in most of our big matches, he needs to sort his boots or his brain out, our captain is Arteta.
And for those who maintain that Vermalien is a better defender than Kozzer I hope you were watching the game. Once Kozzer gets his mojo back he should be partnering Merts, either that or buy a top CB in January.
God help us if Merts gets injured.
gdna – your 2.58 is the last insult, any more and you can go into spam for the rest of the day and chill!!
Thanks for the insight JW, i was just being sarcastic about the action SAF took in such a important game and a decision AW could never thought about, thanks anyway, just informing you that i play the sports at all level. thanks again
GDNA, come on now. Calm down, please. 😉
No kel, United don’t have better players than us…..they just have a better manager thats all.
JW – he did get his chance and blew it, but i wouldn’t write him off on today’s showing, yet again he wasn’t alone in being average…
Hey hey!! Ps we all should not let this match get us worked up! ℓ̊ admit we lack bite & urgency in today’s match but that’s it… We’ve lost so there Ȋ̝̊̅§ nothing one can do about it. How ℓ̊ wished Wenger had subed JW earlier before †ђξ red, but all †ђξ same no need crying over spilt milk COYG!
Rico,
Unfortunately Wilshire was the only one of our mid-fielders who was showing any inclination to penetrate the manure defence at the time of the substitution. I don’t think tiredness or lack of match-fitness can be blamed for the final rush of blood to the head that resulted in his dismissal.
There’s a huge difference in reflection on the eyes comparing both sides with equal measures. The light just bends and burns with more intensity/consistency on ManU players. Has been so for many moons me thinks.
Besides there are a lot of philosophers that starve for a lifetime. Wenger is lucky earning an affluence living with his. Not hating, just saying.
Ohh and Santos is a bit of a tourist isn’t he. Maybe his cabbie demanded a RIP shirt or would stop driving him to the training ground.
RvP and Rooney apart, I have to strongly disagree kel, it’s just AW plays round pegs in square holes and continues to play players who are going through a tough time…
So if you play sports at all levels gdna……..how come you are on this site instead of playing at OT for a change? Or at the Ems? Or anywhere in Europe.
JW – i honestly thought he started to look jaded but tbh, hindsight is a wonderful thing….
Rico…….your 3.16 is the best comment I have read today. And that is the main reason why AW must go.
TT.. i honestly dont think so m8, players win games in my eyes!!
SANTOS was shocking as usual. We had no pace up- front until Arshavin and walcott came in. We are not creating enough chances which is worrying. Based on form I will play Arshavin over podolski
We need a potent striker. Giroud will come good but i don’t think he is ready. LB cause Santos can’t be dependent upon. Additional midfielder or winger cause we can’t pin our hope on diaby. We need a Capoue in the DM role. Arteta is good but we need someone who can break up play. That is me done with the ranting for now
@dev lol! i’m positive you could do a better job than ramsey, no hard feelings mate but not every footballer can play at the ems and OT.
gdna,
Perhaps you should preface your comments with an indication that they are serious, joking, ironic or sarcastic, then we may better be able to understand and appreciate the subtlety of them.
Rico,
I’m sure he will get a few more chances between now and January, against Schalke no doubt!
Arteta must extend himself. He refuses to move out of position even when it’s necessary. He is great at what he does for us, but we need more. We have never had a player who has played that role exclusively. Even our best holding midfielders were always highly involved in the attacking build up. He is not. He does move into positions to provide an outlet, but almost always, it’s a back pass or sideways pass that he provides. He must also move into attacking positions to prevent our forward players from always having to come backwards to receive a pass. His limited movement in the midfield is causing the stagnancy. I know we are focused on stabilizing the team defensively, but we cannot afford to get that at the cost of freezing up a midfielder. The focus must be on players recognizing the movements of their teammates and knowing when to rotate back to provide cover. His role must be opened up.
Wenger “We had the better chances but overall in a game like this you ought to not put yourself on the back foot when you are one down.” OMG
I certainly believe his days with Arsenal are drawing to a close devil, but I think he will just not renew his contract and leave quietly…
emma – back in the summer when everyone was raving about Podolski, a few of us kept saying he may not hit the ground running.
Well he hasn’t but it doesn’t help when he has to always be tracking back to help Santos, who again was shocking…
I think he is injured, and it’s setting him back, either that or he just needs a season to settle…
If things carry on the way they are, Wenger is going to have to sign players in January, but we know he won’t…
And if †ђξ Totsh*t wins today †ђξ gap will widen O̶̲̥̅Ϟ us, just too bad O̶̲̥̅Ϟ us early this season.
Emma,
your comments, often pithy are nonetheless always to the point and could never be described as anything as un-ladylike as a rant. :-0
Hope so JW….
Gdna, did AW really say that??? If so, I am stunned….
@rico lol. I’m asking the same question
I have one more rant to have, but that’s for tomorrows post…
Thankfully though, I am out tomorrow until late afternoon 😉
Popping off for half an hour, poor Fido needs a quick walk….
Will – Quite agree with you. Arteta is not a DM but he is doing his best in that role. We should have bought CAPOUE when the price was still not over inflated instead we pinned our hope on the fitness of DIABY.
The worrying thing now is we are 1pt short of what we had last season(16) and 9 pt or more if chelsea wins today
2-1 is a heck of a lot better than 8-2 and we knew the decisions would go against us. I don’t think Theo blew his chance, if that was his chance it would be pretty spiteful from AW, but then again………..
Parlour: Santos is a joke for swapping shirts with RVP at half time!
OK Vonnie, let’s say he blew this chance.
gnda,
Perhaps Santos knows today was his last chance to get a shirt off of the Judas as he will probably be on his bike (banned from driving) come January.
Hi Rico. The pills are wearing off now. It was about what I expected really. From the moment the game kicked off the team never looked as if they believed they could win. TV is lost. Whatever he had in the first place has gone now and he is a captain who cannot inspire himself, let alone others. Yes Cleverly should have gone but Dean was never going to make that call up there was he? Carrick too was very lucky not to get two cards. Dean couldn’t wait to send Jack off. The penalty was weak I thought. What exactly does Podolski do? Who is going to score the goals? I have asked this question many times now.
All in all, a shit sandwich of a performance against what I believe is an average Man Utd side. I almost can’t be bothered to be pissed off any more. And there are still some who argue that our club isn’t in decline. Frightening and delusional.
What happens next? That is really all that matters now.
@adam you are so right mate..whats next
Another season dominos foregoned. I wonder when Arsenal players lace their boots they do so as construction workers. While teams like United imagine they’re tying themselves up in magical feet.
That’s our quantum leap to make. Like I said many philosophers make bad motivators.
No manager makes changes just because someone is on a yellowcard. Sadly, JW10 was on one and he was the only one willing to take the game to ManU. As JW said,”Unfortunately Wilshire was the only one of our mid-fielders who was showing any inclination to penetrate the manure defence at the time of the substitution.
Gdna. The real tragedy of our situation and the emotional hurdle that always seems to lie ahead is that, deep down, we all know what happens next. I asked in a purely rhetorical fashion to emphasise what anyone with eyes and a brain already can see.
Foolish of me but I need to make sense of something.
Yes we are poor. Very poor infact. And we do need replacements. IN ALL DEPARTMENTS INCLUDING THE DIRECTORS, COACHING AND PLAYING STAFF. If needs be even the TEA LADY bless her woolly socks.
But there is no need to insult anyone. Yes, I find it hard to forgive AW or the board for some of the decisions they make. But I do not know the whole picture of what is going on inside the club. And I refuse to insult anyone.
I am off now my Esteemed Fellow Gunners.
I would like to wish you a happy weekend. Sadly I cannot. But at least try to make it enjoyable with your loved ones. They mean much more to you than AFC ever will.
cu later on today or tomorrow.
Who is insulting Devil?. Is it me with my semi-comatose scribblings?
Another exciting Saturday afternoon in the BLitW ( Best League in the World), after a lack-lustre game at the Old Toilet , only Fulham have managed a goal in the other five games being played.
@dev you are right mate, but sometimes situations gets the best of us, this game was there for the taking but, but?
We will not survive if we cannot attack. This is actually more worrying than our defensive woes last season. I remember Van Persie in an interview last season talking about not having to think twice about trying something fantastic on the field when he had a shooting chance, because the way the team were playing, he was guaranteed at least 4 goal scoring chances. OG and Poldi must be wishing they cold be so lucky! Last year Arteta scored a handful… He can’t do that standing in the centre circle. And I’m not calling on him to go score goals. Just saying that we cannot play like this and expect to compete. If he has an opportunity to provide a forward passing outlet he must move into that position. Those around him, including the passer, must then assess if it’s necessary to provide cover our make another forward run. I honestly can’t believe we are falling so short in attack. Unbelievable.
The line-up was strange and 1-0 very early, drop all strategy (if there was one). However, since the kick-off, everyone knew we will must need a sub in the second half, in the middle of the first half or in another tome ocasion. It depends of the score until that moment.
was prolong the agony.
Arsenal came to lose before the game. Without courage, no confidence, full of fear. It is understood, though no 1st or 2nd place, used a tactic of containment, but in 6th?
For years we like to introduce ourselves as title contenders, but quickly the results and announce the opposite contestation and frustration are great. It is a reality that we do not want to hear, but there are only three candidates for the title. There is a lot more clubs, to fill the vacancy of the CL. With these results, views, number of shots and especially the number of points we have, we risk getting between 8th and 10th place.
Critique is often taken as an insult. If there weren’t that many open, poorly treated, wounds to rub salt in, it would be viewed more as battle scar.
Sorry Coach.
Here’s a turn up for the book, Canaries one up against the Orcs!
*scars
Every year is the same; we’re trying to gel and when we do gelled, we break them into pieces and sold some off. While others are trying to build on on what they already have.
Wigan one up against the Spuds. The day is getting better.
JW. It could hardly get much worse could it?
Obviously from a footballing point of view.
COYGS…….cheer up guys, we still got the carling cup to contend for. nobody said we will win the title this season. i will rather have a cup this season and qualification for champions league. its next season we ll really rip it.
it could be worse…….hey adam, are you alright?
Easily Adam,
Spuds can beat Wigan, Fulham can beat Everton and West Ham can beat the Oilers. We would then drop to eighth.
Well that’s enough doom and gloom for one day, it’s only a football match after-all.
Cheer up Gooners, at least Hurricane Sandy isn’t coming our way.
Back tomorrow!
Very well thank you Stan, what about you?
JW. I tend to look to home first. Others doing badly won’t cover up the farce that is now playing out at Arsenal for me.
I totally agree with you Will XL at 3:58 pm. Yes we sold the one who created the chances for us last year and we expect young JW10 to be our saviour.
Every team knows that if you stop Arteta Arsenal are finished as Wooney said. We lack creativity period and JW10 and SC10 hardly ever create chances..
am good adam, didnt see the game. were we that poor?
Please let the scums lose
its just a game TSGH, jeez we ll be fine, we always do. all we need is to have diaby and TR7 back and we will kick on. i believe in this team.
Hi goonster. How are you?
Stan. We had no belief that we could win the game. It’s the thin edge of the wedge really and our performance today is a reflection of where Kroenke’s Arsenal are at this moment. I say Kroenke’s Arsenal deliberately although I believe that Wenger is complicit too.
am fine TSGH, adam are you saying we coulda taken them? what really happened? i heard the dutch skunk scored against us? gosh i hate son of a bitch.
Aside from how bad we were, the two things you can guarantee when we go up there is that they will get a pen and we will have a player sent off. That knob Geoff Shreeves said to AW, “JW clearly didn’t touch the ball”. Well, I’ve seen it 10 times now and he clearly gets the ball before touching the horrible little shite Evra.
AW is complicit too. You can not have a team with 5 outfield players playing out of position and expect to win.
We are at the point where I am beginning to believe that we have to win a trophy the CoC or sack AW to get the monkey of our back
Stan. A properly constructed and funded Arsenal should have won against what I believe is an average Utd team. It isn’t as if this situation wasn’t foreseen. The problems are deep and go to the very heart of what Arsenal have become.
TsGH. But what if Wenger did go? Which top manager would want to work under Kroenke and have Gazidis and Hill-Wood hovering around?
well we saw this one coming didnt we? manure have played he last 3 games against either 10 or 9 men. am begining to think they need to be investigated but heck who will do it? its such a pity. am losing my flair for football, maybe i ll take up balley or something.
Bob John very good point. All the top teams who have played manure in the last 2 seasons have had players sent off. Opponent CB can do whatever they want to OG12 but whenever we go into the back of opponents strikers we concede a foul.
Goonie, the players were acting like they were getting ready to go clubbing in Ibiza instead of playing in a football match. A bunch of nice guys hi-5ing the opponents.
No one Adam. Some say Moyes but? Personally I think we should not have sold Song even though he did not do the DM job well. VP should have been made to stay but we all know Kroenke can not let £24m go…
we have a bunch of softies in that team, from smiley joe walcot to santos. we need real steel in that team. its so unfortunate cause i really think this team is talented enough to fight for the title.
Evening again all…
Parlour is right, Santos is a joke, especially for swapping shirts and looking like a child hugging it when walking off….
Hi Adam, mine wore off too, about 3 mins into the game….
We are softies as you say,but most people will rather have SC19 than frimps in the team.
Not sure how many times they have got a pen against us at the Theatre of Pus in the last 10 years but it sure as hell seems like every year. I suppose we can call the the Durkin/Riley/Webb/Dean years!
The only home pen I can remember us getting against the was 1991 when we had already won the league! Liam Brady may have stuck one away in the ’70’s but that’s about it.
People can say its not corrupt but are we really the only country that doesn’t have any dodgy dealings going on?
back to work guys…….see ya later.
Hi Rico. Another game the opponent did not win but we gave the win on a plate to them.
Goonster 4.56 Totally agree with the first bit. We are far too nice and accepting of what happens. 2nd to every ball in 1st half.
What happen to these before matches?
Mannone was much more assured today, apart from one mad moment…
Hi Tsgh, i think so, with a little help from the twit in yellow…. and i don’t mean Mannone…
He was and he is doing a decent job. He is no worse than De Gea.
The results went well for us again. This league is a joke now. Thje scums are officially useless again and Everton well, some believe they have a better team than we have but are still not cementing themselves in the top 4
I see Totts lost at home and Chelsea drew. Everton and Fulham drew too…
Ha ha ha. He showed his true colours in the second half when he thought we were coming into the game.
Can you explain why our no.2 warms the players up before a match instead of the physio like any other team? We never seem to start until after 40 minutes in all our matches.
Yes they did. top 4 is still a possibility
Nor are we though Tsgh, I wouldn’t say we are any better that the Totts or Everton right now…
I loved the fans signing to Dean tsgh, best part of the game…
The entire team had a love-in with RIP, including the manager. They probably had a catfight over it in the dressing room like a bunch of Burner-teenagers. SHAME ON YOU!!
FECKING EMBARRASSING.
Hiya Goonie. Quite understandable losing your mojo for footy.
That was funny re Dean song. Will the FA take action on the club?
Rico,the points table shows that 🙂
Evening all…early morning here.
Went down to Sydneys Star Casino to watch thr game with a heap of fellow Gooners,and what a great night it was.
Rico. I’m on the wine now.
Hi DG…
That was quick Adam… 😀
Dean gave Fergie the customary penalty and sending off….. How the hell weren’t one or two Utd players given reds??
Poor results from other top teams to supliment with our poor result:
Totenham 0 – 1 Wigan Ath
Swansea 1 – 1 Chelsea
Fulham 2 – 2 Everton
We know we have our issues which will need a messiah to solve..
The other teams are meant to be on the up.
At least we still have the best defensive record.
We are officially shite and for once AW will be right in strengthening up-front instead of at the back.
Scott he gave them more than that. OG12 did not win any fouls against Rio and Evans even though we should have.
a clear goal for WH !
Another MU?
Tsgh 5.04, they beat us that night as well matey !!!
We’ve stopped competing, swapped pizza’s and fistycuffs in the tunnel for love-ins and shirt swaps.
Keep hearing this is a very average United side yet they keep finishing above us season after season, that’s 6 wins out of 7 against us in the league, Fergie’s got Wengers number and has for a long time now.
First shot on target was the 92nd minute again, similiar to the Schalke game, it’s all very depressing.
Anyway, I’m long past caring, I ain’t gonna let it ruin my weekend, laters.
Sorry auto-correct.
*Judas shirt/handshake > like Bieber-teenagers. Shame on them. War face first, bear hugs later.
Hi Ginge. Didn’t hear the Dean song. Kindly ask for lyrics please?
Jack was asking for that red. He was warned. He is an inch short right now, but i don’t blame Wenger for keeping him on. He is the only work horse in midfield at the moment.
He could not take Jack off.
Doing so would have closed down the small chance we still had.
Long term,a little break might be good for Jack.
Dg, it certainly way embarrassing…
Adam, luck you, annoyingly, I am tee total these days….
I’m the other side of several pints and some vin rouge….we are getting the piss taken out of us wholesale by AFC! Its pointless singling out individual players….because IMHO there’s too many that aren’t even fit to wear the canon on their chest!!! We have no bollocks on or off the field! Also who gives a fuck about the yids and other teams losing, we should concentrate on fucking winning!!!
Something has to give, this can’t continue….
Hi Scott – the penalty was a cert, Cleverley and RvP should have both gone imho….
Dg – they were singing ‘Fergie’s Rent Boy’ 🙂
I text a mate during the game, is all matey with AW because he’s got him beat….weren’t friendly when we were winning doubles or going unbeaten for a season.
Santos can fuck off too….what was the half time love in with RVP about???? Joke absolute joke…..
Well said Lee….
Ha ha ha yes they did beat us Micko. Its just some think when we have PV4 we were barca but we were not. Very good point these fools should not mess up our wkend.
DG10 I am still waiting on your man Ickes conspiracy book on Kroenke and PHW.
I have officially abandoned my defence of Aaron Ramsey.
He has had enough time to lift.
I love his effort and work rate,but he coughs up possession to easily.
He is trying to do too much every time he has the ball…..sometimes,simple is best.
Loan spell???
Anyway,i had a great night,and the company of loyal Gooners is always a treat.
***ferguson****
And the RvP/Wenger love in at H/T….. And the TV and RvP cuddles in the tunnel before the game … what’s that all about….?
I didn’t give a shit that Santos wanted Van Persies shirt.
My issue was why the hell was he thinking about it at half time,when we are down 1-0??????
Get your mind on the job,or get the hell out!!!
Ramsey isn’t a fucking right winger never has been never will…. Santos isn’t a LB never has been a LB never will be one….how long does it take for the penny to drop you stubborn fucker????
Hi Lee. Take it easy mate. The way things are going we are not going to win even the mickey mouse cup so I want to live long enough to see the FFP come into play… 😀
BSM march that is what I am talking about. I also blame the AST and their questions about the price of hot bog crap. Enough said. 😡
Lee. As usual you put your finger on it. 🙂
Rico. I am surprised you haven’t been driven back on the vino after today’s debacle. 🙂 I have cracked open a great bottle.
Scott, I gave a massive shit he wanted that judas fuck’s shirt…..no way he would of started the second half, IMHO!
I can see everyone is in a jovial mood,so goodnight.
Rico
To me that was another management cock up as well. It’s like they threw away his phone number and e-mail on the day they sold him. He should have been asked not to approach our players in the tunnel. Now it looks like RIP gave a house warming party and his former colleagues all surprisingly showed up.
Tnx for the lyrics. Made me chuckle.
I don’t get why he plays Ramsey on the wing either, all he is doing is setting Ramsey up for abuse when it goes wrong, why not start Walcott?
Just because he hasn’t signed his contract, that’s why, and that’s stubborn!
As for Santos, sell him or use him as a winger only. And January, sign an out and out left back…. not a winger who can also play in defence.
Tsgh, take it easy?? I want my Arsenal back, I want to compete and not to be canon fodder for those northern fucks. Smug scotch fucker after the game, I want us to wipe that smug jock’s grin off his face….
But do the board give a fuck like me? Err no. They are coining it in mugging us off……
He plays Ramsay there for defensive cover. Working well isn’t it?
Adam, ha ha, so am I….
Lee, he shouldn’t have started the first half let alone the second after those antics….
That’s not the only thing which is not working Adam…..
Night Scott….
I’m off to get me 2 Oak ripened bottles Cabernet Sauvignon. Back later.
I am imbibing a great Claret. Lee would approve I think.
Scott, jovial mood are you mental? We’ve just been beaten by a beatable Man U and I can’t see us turning it around? Yeah it may only be a game BUT for fuck sake lets get with the programme…
What is she Adam??
Certainly a toast to the travelling supporters today as they did the club proud and the efforts of some of the team barely warranted such commitment. Cheers boys. You deserved better.
Evening all.
Whatever Wenger said or not said will be turned round so why get upset with it. His organisation of our defence is a diferent subject he cannot say words have been twisted there. It seems to me that our defenders take it in turns to be useless except Santos he needs his marching orders, he knows the position he plays but he’s never there he hasn’t the stamina to play forward and sprint back either we put him up as a winger or we get rid of him. In my eyes Wilshere is a right prat and has let his team mates down big time, doesn’t mater what he did on the field he still left us with a man down he should have got tackles like that out of his system in the reserves. We have a few problems that need sorting, 10 games are enough for any manage to realie they need skilled help
Lee
I’ve never heard of cigars that rot away your brain. Apparently they exist.
Nice tip Adam tnx.
Back shortly, going to eat…..
Lee. A Chateau Figeac from St Emilion in the year 1989.
I am not taking the piss Lee. We all want our Arsenal back that is why I have not gone to see Arsenal play since the blackburn 4-3 lose last season in the epl. I am not going to let a bunch of idiots so weak in the head they will shit themselves one hour on the Brecons in November piss me off.
The board are clueless. And to be frank I do not know if AW is half asleep or is just clueless.
latest Scott.I am always jovial. 😉
Taken on board Ginge, I am fuming with the result but the problem lies with board/AW. Santos was shite against Shalke and everything came down their right….err why play him today??? Fucking clueless…really so predictable!
We lost the game before started ffs!
that is an expensive fine wine Adam.what are you celebrating? 😀
lee who could have done better?TV4 will be joining RIP next summer if he is still with his mrs from salfords..
Back with a cool head. It is really worrying cause we are not creating chances. We had our first shot on target in the 93rdmin just like in Schalke04 match. it’s high time poldi starts from the bench. From the last couple of matches he offers nothing. Lets start using speedy wingers. The manures where just too comfortable dealing with our threat, denying us of spaces. We were too sloppy and were not moving the ball quickly.
The ineptitude of Wengers tacticality cannot be ignored. Fergie once more out-thought wenger. Wenger should have made a change of formation. Could have altered the formation into 3 5 2. Use pacy wingers like Walcott and Arshavin.
As long as we continue to play this formation teams will always find us out and deny us playing. This has happened against Norwich. Schalke, QPR
TV was next to useless. He has gone from verminator to mr bean
@ Ginge, who could of done better? At left back? Douglas Bader or Stephen Hawkins perhaps…I’m not taking the piss I’m being serious….
I do not think it was tactics this time. its an experiment gone too far. when we lost our first game I said we did not lose because of the defense or kos but because SC19 was not adding much to our team but most thought I was being unfair on him.
You cannot buy a player and play him in a position he has never played in before in his first season in this league. JW10 is never a number 10 but AW will persist with his experiment. Some say Song was useless but we miss his power and the chances he created.
Ha ha ha Lee. I get you. 😉
Kos and tv have gone backwards….and you know what, I’m over it.Do the board really give a fuck? Nope, they are all getting made richer, week in week out by us mug supporters…..4th spot a trophy? As long as we have our manager believing that, we’re doomed! Sorry but that’s a fact!
Adam, pour me a glass mate. I’ve just been to Neal’s yard, you got the crusty bread? 😉
Lee – If we finish 4th this season I will count it as a bonus. I don’t want to be pessimistic but I just hope we don’t sadly
He should never say that loud. True we need champions league but saying that gives the players an excuse even before they have kicked the ball.
We can sack AW but as Adam has said who apart from Fat Sam will want the job. Definitely not maureenho or Pep
😀 3rd was a miracle last season. 4th will be a gift from God…
TsGH. A very nice wine indeed. I am celebrating being royally pissed off with the direction our club is taking.
Lee. Neal’s Yard in Covent Garden? Are you out with Mrs Lee then?
Evening again….
Hiya Rico.
evening Rico
Is Neals the cheese place?
They do have a cheese shop there and a bakery and a cafe Rico.
Hi Adam, Tsgh….
I’m so naffed off after today…..
Sounds very nice Adam….
One of the amazing things is that the club seems to have to go right down before it can rise again. It is as if nobody could see this coming. Alternatively they did and couldn’t be arsed to do anything about it. How did these people become multi-millionaires?
There’s a great whole food restaurant round the corner Rico called Ffod For Thought. I love it there.
Food!
Anyway, I am off for the evening. Please try and have a good evening despite the general awfulness of the day.
Night!
Hope you manage to enjoy your evening too Adam… Night to you…
the last millionaire footie fan was Hayward of wolves.
The rest stole from people to be where they are now. And guess what they are stealing from us.
No Adam, I am slightly boozey on the sofa whilst Mrs Lee watches strictly come dancing…I wish I had some frommage and was en route to chez Adam!! 😆
Just what I am going to do Lee, report done for the morning, and now off to press play on the sky planner and listen to
Craig Revel-Horwood……
Night all, catch you all tomorrow afternoon sometime…
1st
Boom 2nd.
It’s not really fair to be lumping all the blame on Santos.
It’s Eboue all over again.
Andre should not be playing left-back…
Sagna left-back, Jenkinson right-back.
I’ve been banging on about that for ages…
It’s not rocket science is it?
hi kev
Did you wait for me to leave Kev 😉
It’s the same with Ramsey, he’s no right winger…
So why does AW play them there…..
I think we all know why…
Gone now, go steady all…..
Can someone please tell me what Lukasz Podolski has been bringing to the team since the International break?
He really needs to buck his ideas up, or maybe a spell on the bench awaits ‘Prince Poldi’….
Kev being on the team sheet is one thing, going Red Devil tourist on our arses is next level stigma.
iH
nite rico
Hi, Dutch, Ginge.
I am not happy….
dembele is out………yipeeeeeeeeeee. hey kev, how’s it going?
still sore huh? well am not big fella. cheer up we ve got the tin cup in the bag. watch out.
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Hi Goonie
Tin with what tuna? That’s the chicken of the sea.
DG10, are ok brother? what’s with the big words?
i believe we win that….its ours and its written in the stars. from then we ll really kick of to winning bigger things. i believe in this team.
Hello. Not Happy today.
Very down.
Its a poor team that has no direction
I think there must be something between the players and the caoching and the board. The club is split up. It is not working as a team.
come on TSGH, we will get there. this is a team who is just learning to play together. give this team a year together and you ll see a different team entirely.
Forget about buying a goalie and all that rubbish. We need a proper born playmaker like Younès Belhanda and a poacher like Huntelaar in January
Dutch, get out of that dictionary…
Stan, I am good in myself, just pissed off footballistically…
And how long are we going to give them Mr Goonster? The club has been given enough. How much more are we going to wait for better results.
Goonie
It’s the perversity I developed over torrid times my club seems to embrace.
Hi Clorinda. Good observation. The club is at cross roads. Personally I think we are on the right path but it was dangerous as AW stated in August to let RIP go.
Hello Allezkev!
Who is Dutch? Is he from Holland? I was in Holland this summer for a few days with a friend.
I was very disapiointed today.
Kev no dictionary, honestly, top of mind straight shooting from the hip. 😛
Ginge, what we need is for Wenger to let Bould get on with the coaching, as was the case, it seems, early in the season, when all the players were fighting for each other.
Now we look as spineless as we did at our worst last season.
goonie. The results on the pitch is a reflection of the energy off it. The fans have no faith. It does not help with PHW telling the media we have £50M to spend on players.
What do we expect from a player who Brazil cannot even callup on there national team? The man even lack self-esteem. Treating VP as if he was from another planet.
Kev so you believe there is a rift between Bould and AW?
Hi Clorinda
Me & the ‘mad as a March hare’ Goonster are from Holland.
Oh really!!! I enjoyed at Holland. Very beautiful place. And the flowers amd parks. Really nice and beautiful.
Nas G re other planet. 😛 Lmao.
Dutch, you are in danger of becoming as crazy as Stan. 🙂
Must be all that Edam. 😉
If we are honest with ourselves players like Ox have gone backwards. We do not have a natural winger in the team. Ryo should be brought back as Emma has said several times. Too many players are being played out of position.
How many times can the board expect AW to build a new team in 7 years?
I think that the players are not happy together. There are groups within the team. Like the Holland team of 1994. I was young during that year. but I still remember my papa saying that Holland has two teams in the same team.
jeez guys who’s the calmest person on here? yet you all think am crazy. christ in heaven.
Why do they think you crazy Goonster???
Clorinda
All colours are fainting now. The famous Dutch painters sky has gone 50 shades of grey and the temperature asks for the blessings of woolly socks. 😉
But you’re welcome when the winter birds return. Very lovely indeed.
i dont know my man, must be because am a blonde adonis. there re just jealous i guess.
goonie are you still coming down to the uk in december?
goonie clorinda is a lass
clorinda is a WHAT??? are you for real? christ in heaven! why didnt you tell me?
blonde adonis? Lmao
Ginge, I think that there is something in these rumours.
We have been waiting for you on that. Specially sent by Eros to you. 😀
heck yes, i wont miss it for the world. i ll be in “sorry” to see yours trully then head over to london to fuck AK , lee and adam up. maybe i ll see rico but she ll be too frightened to let me in her house cause i might eat all her chickens and her fido.
I love and admire AW but God help me. Making the same mistakes time after time really get to me of calling him names. Every time I see Ramsey in the lineup and out of position, I just lost hope.
What is a lass tsGH?
where is she from? clorinda i mean? lord am in love!
Its a shame if it is based on their body language. But the problem we have is not the defense. In fact the individaul defensive errors are up now. Today being an example. Its the lack of creativity. Even RIP will not be scoring in this team because we have lost the creative hub.
Ginge what has Eros Ramazzotti over Cupido?
north italia she said
please lord let her be from the philipines so i can finaaly get over AGAG.
from the peninsula huh? christ give me strength, when did she get here TSGH, and why didnt you all alert me? AK you re getting really old. you re slacking up big guy. sheeesh, where’s that irish tosser micko when you need him.
I am from Italy Mr Goonster. From Braies.
you do not know me and already in love? with me?
Oh. so that is why they call you lothario last time.
Clorinda
A synonym for delirious = unzipped. 😛
christ, i will get you yet adam……lothario he says. anyway senorita dont call me mister jeez just call me stan, mister is reserved for old wind bags like WATH,AK,devil and lee. just call me stan or goonster. christ am in love with you senorita. maybe i ll visit italy too.
shut up DG10, just leave me and the senorita alone ok.
Mr DutchGooner10. Why you mention my name and say then……………….A synonym for delirious = unzipped.
hahahahaahah now DG10 too is mister, look maam you ve gotta let that “mister” crap slide. i told you who can call mister. they are all old and dingy. call them mister not my fellow dutch brother, jeez.
We are supposed to discuss Arsenal. And we end up discussing love.
I have many loves Mr Goonster. I love flowers, I love the mountains, I love walks, I love the moonlight, I love cars.
Sorry madam. Had to preface that to be more conductive. Meaning Goonster > crazy > delirious > unzipped. 😉
So I cannot call you Mr Goonster now.
I was only being polite.
If you want it then. Can I call you Cicciolino?
for you my love i will answer to anything…….even van crap!
Mister Bond. James Bond. Will do.
telefono rosso
So how long have you been supporting Arsenal Mr Cicciolino Van Crap?
Who is you best player?
since 2000 mi amo, my favorite player is the dutch wizard himself, followed by bobby pires and freddie ljunberg. ahhhhh those were the days. what about you my cherie amo?
Micko is having his nigerian guiness in his garden shed as we speak plotting your down fall goonie
My favourite player at the moment is Giroud.
I also like Arteta and Mannone.
My best ever player was Dennis. He made many goals look easy.
Since 2000? then you must be very young.
hahahhahaha nigerian guiness??? what the heck is that? have they finally run out of stout in ireland? tsk tsk tsk.
Micko prefers the imitation one… he he he.
He is saving to buy Falcao for us in January
hey what do you mean young? am 26! denis huh? a fine taste i tell ya. see we are meant to be. i adore denis and you love him too. what else i love to ski, do you?
Juventus are loosing to Inter at home. Only 1 minute left.
Our record might soon be safe.
Juve will not go beyond it if they loose.
hahahah poor old micko saving to buy shitvestre more like!
Then you are a little young than me. I am 28.
Juventus 1-3 to Inter.
ok am 31 i lied……i dont want you thinking you re way too old for me hence treating me like AGAG does….grrrrrrrr.
Finished. Our record still stands.
Now I am off for today.
Nice talking to you, mio cicciolino van crap.
When will you be on this nice website again?
well depends on how often you visit it……am a regular here, just been too busy that’s all.
Thanks Clorinda the best news ever.re Juve
I work with shifts. So I do not know when I be here.
Buonanotte for now.
Nite Clorinda. You have finally met a living cupid or Romeo… lol
bye mi amor…..hey TSGH, when is our next game? will jack the lad miss it? dang old goat that mike dean. grrrrr
heck no, cupid no but blonde adonis, read my lips. jeez.
Its Tuesday against the 3rd best team in europe Schalke. Then Fulham and then the scums..
Adonis. Tammuz is worshipped by billions mate. lol
exactly…..filipino ladies adore my blonde locks and hard chin. just ask AGAG.
haha ha you and your filipinos
yes my man am a sucker for them all…….especially AGAG. i ll get her if its the last thing i do on earth. you hear that AGAG, am coming for ya! you can run but you cant hide.
there are a few filipinos in the US?
lots of them TSGH but they are all americanized. i need me a real native. i especially have a soft spot for manila chicks. something about that city just drives me wild!
Yes. they are meant to be very nurturing but agag says she is an exception. I like the darker skinned ones
well its their size that actually thrills me……gosh what i will give to have me one of them. think i ll head there next summer.
you will love it. my lil bro was there last march. so you like them small?
…petite?
its 6pm TSGH, gotta to grab me a few burgers. men am starved. see ya pal. have a good one.
latest mate
Oh God, Stan is off ‘On One’, it’s all gonna end in tears.
Oh and Stan, that’s a bit strong calling Lee, Wath and me, old windbags…
Devil I can understand, hmm, 😀
And btw, Wath always speaks very well of you, when your not here.
In fact he always seems quite pleased when you are actually not here.
Lee thinks the World of you.
And I think you’re a bum…
Not sure what Micko thinks of you.
He is man of a very few words, but they’re usually worth hearing.
Adam though, holds you in the highest regard.
Well, I think that’s what he said..???!
You know what Lee,your 6.12 pm jibe about me being mental is ordinary at best,and a nasty,bitter and sarcastic piece of shit at worst!
I had a great night out with great Gooners who sang their hearts out for the entire game,and i get home at 4am to touch base with my favourite …though some of you make it a chore of late… only to cop shit like that!!
I never said i was happy with the performance or result,so you can stick that mental bit fair and square up your arse!!!
Claasy mate,really classy.
Man of a few words eh kev,
Stan is like the mutt next door who keeps coming over the ditch and shitting on your front garden every morning, at first your just wanna shoot the bastard but as time passes you find yourself growing quite fond of the little runt.
If he ever makes it as far as Kerry I’ll have him knee-capped, I owe that to the women of Ireland, the last thing we need is a load of little Stanley O’ Goonsters running riot !!!
Right, I’m off to my bunk, nite folks.
Scott, Lee knows your Arsenal through and through mate, he’s just letting off a bit of steam as we all do from time to time, it wasn’t personal, it was either you or the dog and he didn’t want to fall out with the missus……enuf said.
Stanley O’Goonsters….!!!
Mick, you paint a very interesting picture…
A picture I could really do without, as i’m turning in…
Think i’m gonna have a sleepless night…
Here’s the problem Scott, you’ve had a good day/night out with fellow Arsenal fans and have obviously enjoyed your day and fair play but to then comment on the fact people are not in a jovial mood is pretty ridiculous… We’ve just lost to the mancs mate do you think we’re going to be happy…? Think not… you may well be not that unhappy seeing as you’ve had a great day on the piss with people who have sang their hearts out at the TV but bottom line is we lost and thats what matters… showing passion as fans is one thing, ignoring the obvious entirely another and bottom line is my day weekend and week is fucked up cos I am fuckin livid we lost and for you to mention jovial is pretty much taking the piss out the fact that it seems the result is irrelevant just cos you had a good day..? I’m pretty sure you don’t mean it that way but just look at how you have said it and written it and realise how it comes across to others and then wonder why you get a comment such as what Lee wrote…! You’ve often said you don’t get the personal connection, well this is personal and it fuckin matters….!
I’m of to bed so have a think about what i’ve just written and if you still feel hard done by regarding Lee’s comments we can discuss further 2moro on the new post..!
Wath,it was clearly a throw away line mate,written at 4 am in the morning and not written with any nasty intent.
I knew how everyone was feeling…i watched the game and saw exactly how average we were,but i didn’t need to read the same comments that always come when we play like that.
Nothing sinister in that remark at all,it was purely tongue in cheek.
Oh,and to suggest i had a great night because i was on the piss is shit mate.
I had one beer,not that it is any business of yours!
My mood was ordinary about the game,and all i said was i had good night out with good people….isn’t that what it’s all about??
Mental……..and you defend it??
Micko,unfortunately,i will never be seen as Arsenal through and through mate to some…just the way it is,and i accept that.
I am asked to understand and respect people that get so down on the club and players when things go wrong,and why they react because of low performances.
My perspective is different,but often discarded……it’s rarely understood,or even attempted to be!
Which perspective is right,and which is wrong??
I don’t think there is an answer,suffice to say you either truly love the club or you do not,regardless of how you show it.
As Lee said,i have said on a number occasions i do not fully understand the more personal affiliation you guys have with the game,but how many of you truly think about,and make allowances for,those of us who love the club,love the game but,due to where we live,are simply not able to live and breathe it 24 hours a day?
Again,who is right,and who is wrong??
Shouldn’t we ALL consider each others situation before labelling each other anything,let alone mental?
Scott, to the frustrated, angry and disappointed, even harmless remarks can cause a reaction. So it’s no surprise that a tongue-in-cheek comment could spark anger on the day of a significant loss. So i just filter out the emotional stuff and stick to talking about football. Otherwise all this other unnecessary crap comes up and there’s way too much of that in real life for me to deal with it online as well. Personally i don’t think you’re mental and i agree with a lot of the things u say… But maybe I’m mental too so who really knows!
Typical pitiful Wenger. So now the ref is to blame for Wenger not taking yellow-carded Wilshere off like Fergie did for Cleverly ? This is outrageous! The offense was worthy of a yellow. Poor Wilshere was fighting alone in midfield with usual Aaron Ramsey lost in the park. Once Wenger had tha audacity to hail participation at Champions League as a ‘trophy’, I ceased to resent RVP. He was right to leave ( and so were Clichy, Fabregas, Kolo Toure, Song, etc … I could go on for days …). Today’s match has nothing to do with that assessment, but one can safely say that the rivalry between Man U and Arsenal is officially over. Man U, even playing horribly today were WAY better than us.
Agreed Will.
I believe i am consistent in my approach on the net,and do not switch on an off depending on a win or loss….i am always positive to the club and the game.
I do accept the fact some take things to heart more so than i do,but do not accept the fact that i should tread on eggshells with everyone after a loss.
I will,however,attempt to take your advice and stick to pure football matters.
For the record,i apologise to anyone who took offence to my use ofnthe word jovial.
Scott, I apologise for the “mental” comment, I was caught up with euphoria of yet another lack lustre Arsenal performance at old toilet. Also the wrong side of several pints, so the “jovial” comment fell on stoney ground for me.
I’ve never doubted yours or anyone else’s support for Arsenal.
Morning all btw.
Santy,Cleverley should have gone,and RvP’s challenge on any other day,with any other club was more than often a red.
Jack deserved both yellows,but Wenger was right not to take him off….we could not possibly have won without him,so it was worth the risk,imo.
Lee,lovely to hear mate,and done and dusted.
Please accept my apologies if you were offended….i really didn’t mean to make light of the result,nor peoples feelings.
We were ordinary….we need change.
A line has been drawn under it mate!
Wenger’s stubbornness is the major problem within Arsenal. Santos isn’t a left back that can defend, Ramsey isn’t a right winger the list goes on….
I mentioned it last night but you see how Fergie is all matey with AW these days? That’s because he’s got him beat, that is an average manure team and we couldn’t even beat em. This team needs three top players to get back on track, and according to that twat PHW we’ve got the money in the bank…..so fucking spend it!!!
Morning Lee, Scott, BigS and all…
And Fergie says he’s is angry with his players for not battering us..
I really dislike that man..
‘This team needs three top players to get back on track, and according to that twat PHW we’ve got the money in the bank…..so fucking spend it’!!!
Amen to that Lee…..
New Post is up….
I reckon he has tried Ramsey out there to help protect that side,but Ramsey has had enough time after the injury,and i have probably been more forgiving than most,but he hasn’t improved sufficiently with ball at feet….i will get back to him.
I reckon Giroud did well,but had very,very little decent service .
Yes,a mistake cost us a goal,and a set piece another,and yes,Mannone saved us from further embarrassment,but i can not believe how few decent chances we are creating.
It is a massive worry,as we seem to have decent creative players,but maybe they are simply doing to much work in defence to have the legs left.
I don’t know the answer,but Wenger really needs to try something different.
Things seem to contradict themselves…if that makes sense.
People think Podolski was a non event.
I think Santos did much better than he has of late……but it was deceptive,as it was maily in attack.
Intertwined is the fact that Podolski ran his arse off helping defend down that side,thereby making Santos look better in defence and making himself look no good in attack in the process.
Ramsey…..well even Devil will say he does a lot of near invisible work in defence,but he is just giving the ball away to easily….again,a hard one to decipher the real value of his efforts.
People smarter than me are having problems working it out,so i have no chance 🙂
Yes,new players are needed,and fast.