One mistake too many for Arsene?? Smudger says what most of us have been for a while……

Most clubs come to The Emirates these days with great believe that they will beat us and to be honest, why shouldn’t they?

Arsene Wenger perseveres with the likes of Arshavin, Djourou, Chamakh, Diaby, Squillaci, but in all honesty every Arsenal supporter and spectator realised they should have been gone a while ago now and it makes me wonder if Arsene Wenger has come to the end of his road?

This once great tactician has run out of idea’s, he is making mistake after mistake and its now evident that we need change.

What I witnessed on Sunday was the last straw for me personally.

Wenger’s substitution of Chamberlain to bring on a totally ineffectual Arshavin, was the last in a string of  many in recent weeks that just haven’t paid off, this one though cost us dear.

Having surprised us all by finally having the sense to replace Djourou at half-time as he was getting battered on the right, he took off one of our best players, if not the best and replaced him with a guy who week in week out looks as if he doesn’t want to be in England, let alone on a football pitch in a red and white shirt.

Fans have waited for half a season for who they affectionately call The Ox to start doing what we all know he is capable of, only to be taken off midway through the second half. Supporters could not believe what Wenger was about to do, we could all hear them vent their disbelief towards Arsene Wenger.

The Ox had started lively he is a definite Jack in the box, he showed some very clever footwork and his exuberance is intoxicating, something I used to feel the same way about Theo Walcott. When he first started I felt he was the shinning light but I was mistaken, he has never really reached the heights in the game that was expected of him.

Chamberlain though is very different, he’s big, strong and already convinces most fans –  he will be massive for us.

Why Wenger took him off when he did, especially after setting Van Persie up for the equaliser totally baffles me.

The Ox looked as strong as he had all game in fact as the United side had started to tire he was coming into his own. Wenger made the change and the look on that young mans face said everything, his mind must have been scrambled and surely he wondered what he had done to deserve being substituted.

He must have thought after Djourou had been subbed at half time for being totally outplayed that Wenger thought the same about him, but in the case with Djourou he was replaced with a better player Yennaris, but in his own case an out of form Arshavin was coming on.

My heart sank when I saw Arshavin coming on and as said earlier, the home supporters started singing, “You Don’t Know What Your Doing” and this was directed towards Wenger.

Wenger is no stranger to bad substitutions he makes them all the time but this one with The Ox was a complete howler.

Even our captain Robin Van Persie appeared to ask why, maybe he knew the only people applauding the substitution were Manchester United supporters. Mind you, he has been very quick to deny any fall out from Sunday, other players too are in support of their manager since the Man Utd loss.

Wengers reasons after the game were as hollow as his promises to improve the squad!

With millions sitting in the bank, he has decided that we don’t need to bring in any players in this window but he is wrong.

He was wrong this time last year and his wrong again now.

If I didn’t know better I would think he has done this deliberately – surely he cannot be allowed to carry on making these decisions?

I believe it is now time to start looking for a new man to manage us and hopefully he be in place for the start of next season. Now is not the time as I don’t believe it would be fair for another manager to take over to clean up Wengers mess. Wenger should leave at the end of this season and give his replacement a transfer window to put players in place for his  new tenure.

Seven years is enough time for any manager to sort his team and tactics out and Wengers time is done.

Arsenal need new blood, in both leadership and players – it’s the only way forward in my opinion.

Have a read of this article written by old Gooner Alan ‘Smudger’ Smith, haven’t we said it all before?

Written by Steve Palmer.

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devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Good morning guys and chicks of the Gunners Faith.

Morning Rico.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Good post Sir SP.

However “Now is not the time as I don’t believe it would be fair for another manager to take over to clean up Wengers mess. Wenger should leave at the end of this season and give his replacement a transfer window to put players in place for his new tenure.”

On that issue I do not agree. He can be replaced now. The team is there. We saw last Sunday that even at half strength the team was there. What was baffling and ignominous last sunday, as in other games was the tactical approach. As Sir AK can testify some of the tactics that AW deploys have had me screaming abuse since the UEFA cup final in 2000. What we need is a tactical coach with common sense substitutions and common sense. Personally I would start with Yennaris next time and if he gets injured before Sagna/Jenks return then yes put JD. But not if Yennaris is ok.

Just for the sake of pointing it out…….Yennaris, Frimpong,Coquelin etc are footballers. JD, Squilly, Chamack, PArk are players. See if you can spot the difference.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

http://www.theshortfuse.com/2012/1/23/2728097/nico-yennaris-as-a-mascot-in-2000-hi-mike-dean-hi-tony-adams-h-t-to

In the year 2000 there was an Arsenal mascot in the game at Highbury against Coventry City.

On Sunday an unknown quantity played in the game against United at the Emirates.

His name……NICO YENNARIS.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Rico,I put it up again, because there was the comment missing.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

The problem at the Emirates is not the board in itself. Or AW.

The problem is that there is no one WITH BIG ENOUGH BALLS to read the riot act to AW and give him his job description and more importantly tell him that from now on he is ACCOUNTABLE for his team’s performance.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Exactly Rico……but as a coach yes I would need Arshavin.

Clockendjim
Clockendjim
14 years ago

Sadly its time for Wenger to go. Surely even the ‘Wenger Knows Best’ brigade, must realise that this saying is about 5 years out of date.
I think the club missed an opportunity when Martin O’Neill took over Sunderland. It is amazing what he has achieved in such a short time with a fairly ordinary set of players. He could have worked wonders at The Emirates.
No thinking manager would bring on Arshavin at any time with the careless way he is playing now and he was duly rewarded by his abject defending which led to the winning goal.
The club squad is now full of players that would not get into any other PL team let alone a supposedly Top Four ( we used to be ) team
A new manager should have a complete clearout saying goodbye to Diaby, Squillaci, Djourou, Arshavin, Chamakh, Almunia, Fabianski with question marks against Rosicky and even Walcott who is just not producing. They would not fetch a fortune on the transfer market, but enough with all the money already in the bank to buy wisely and create a truly strong squad.
Even cornerstones of the team such as Song & Ramsey are well below par right now. Drastic surgery is required

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

…..the reason is simple. I would make him as an example. Fine him one week wages. Send him to train for one week with the Under 18. And more importantly tell him in front of others that ATTITUDE LIKE THAT SHALL NOT BE TOLERATED.

Personally I would give a shit if the other players like Frimpong, Lansbury etc are on loan. I would recall them and tell them that from now till the end of the season everyone is playing for his place. Any drop of effort will see the same as AA will be seeing.

Yes I would need Arshavin………to put him as a light to what others should not aspire to. If he deems it ok to throw shit in my face then I will just bury his face in it. Sir red nose does it. he even booted Beckam. And who was and remained a winner. No need to answer.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Then simply AW is a mug for the simple reason that they are giving him enough rope to hang himself with it and he is not even noticing.

Unless he and the board’s agenda is what I suggested a few days ago that he wants to put the likes of homegrown players at the expense of RVP, Song, AA, Theo.

potter
potter
14 years ago

The worm has turned , For the last few years I have sensed a hidden agenda , I am sure that there is a rift between manager and majority shareholder . Things have been said , i.e If a team sells Cesc and Nasri it can’t be considered a big team ( paraphrasing ) not hitting the Champions league would be a disaster . Both of these comments are directly opposite to those of the board , he is getting his excuses in first. From their side I don’t think that the board will dismiss him but probably will not offer a new contract, their way of a painless removal, .He however has put his faith in a new broom sweeping aside the board in the forthcoming supposed coup . Interesting times ahead during the close season methinks.

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

Honestly,how many of you were pissed off when Wenger bought the Ox????
Reading comments from various websites makes me believe about 80% of fans werent happy.
In other words,4 out of 5 of you are hypocrites.
How many of you wanted anything to do with Koscielny 12 months ago?
98% hated him,which makes nearly ALL gunners fans hypocrites.
Wenger bought Ox in spite of you,and stuck with Kozzer whilst becoming a laughing stock for doing so.
Listen to you all now……..don’t take Ox off….Koscielny is a great defender…..
If you had your way,Koscielny would have been sold in the summer,and Ox would be at Old Trafford.
Unbelieveable pack.of contradictory idiots is how I’d describe most “Gooners”.
Personally,well,i am on record on various sites saying Kozzer needed only experience to be considered world class,and Ox MUST be dynamite for Wenger to dig so deep.
But what do Wenger and i know??????
I know one thing….I would NEVER,EVER boo my club under ANY circumstances,but hey, I AM A SUPPORTER!!!

alan b'stard M P
alan b'stard M P
14 years ago

from an AKBer ” across the road ”

OK I will say it again….

Arsenal fans are wrecking the club. They don’t enjoy football anymore. Winning is all. Worst supporters in the EPL. That drivel at 9.47am goes some way to proving it.” End quote

He wouldn’t know a train was up ‘im till they blew the whistle

alan b'stard M P
alan b'stard M P
14 years ago

Scott says

“I AM A SUPPORTER!!!”

yes, but not a club member

You are also a meal ticket for board mediocrity. How does it feel

alan b'stard M P
alan b'stard M P
14 years ago

Hi Rico

But who takes any notice outside the ground?

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Rico…..I would sell him after two weeks. But First make him an example.

Scott….if you have followed HH for the last few months you would realise that you are slightly mistaken. First of all not everyone was pissed off when the OX and Kozzer were bought. Far from it. I guess that you were the first one to ask Koscielny who??? When the news broke out that AW wanted Kozzer, you can ask Sir AK what my reaction was. I simply told him that Kozzer was a good defender who needed experience in the top flight. Unlike you, who may be blinkered to just English football and from the top leagues I watch football from nearly across Europe. And I can easily reel off some players who are unknowns and who can instantly improve our squad…..a few days ago I did just that. And yes….when he bought the OX, and Ryo, I was excited. Simply because I had seen the OX play. And yes….I am already an advocate of Luke Shaw, Nick Powell, Ian Hoban, Matt Lecointe etc from the lower divisions. Simply because I have seen them play.

potter
potter
14 years ago

Scott were we booing the club , Or the decision , despite everything the fans are not fools and we know what we see. I personally have no problem with bringing Arshavin on but there were many more deserving candidites for going off than Oxlade Chamberlain . The fact that sections of the crowd went into a chant of Arsenal cubed soon after meant they still wanted the team to go on but it didn’t just break up the crowd it affected the team, the decision was crass and stupid and the boos were the culmination of a long period of frustration. Do not blame the fans look a little deeper , there are problems inside our club which are beginning to rise to the surface.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Scott…..can you kindly go and ask RVP what were his own reactions when AW signed Kozzer and the OX seeing the reaction he did make when the substitution happened???

Here we are speaking about the OX/AA substitution not discussing what we thought when AW bout the above mentioned players.

Wavy
Wavy
14 years ago

I think we are witnessing the climax of a Greek/Shakespearean tragedy.
Wenger, the central character has achieved greatness, is revered by the populace (fans) admired by his employers (the Board) and has the complete trust of all the others (Press and pundits). However, like all tragic figures he has one? failing, arrogance/stubborness and his unwillingness to admit he’s wrong (Diaby, Squillaci, Arshavin et al) he insists they are are better, more loyal but misunderstood practioners – his hubris! – undoing.

Then, in traditional tragic formula he makes a series of mistakes that culminates with an act of gross indecency with an Ox! The formerly loyal accolites turn against him, he cannot see or worse admit he is wrong, and continues by repeatedly making the same mistakes, tactically and showing misplaced loyalty to his personnel. He turns his adoring fans into a screaming mob full of hatred and vitriol, baying for his blood/demise. The mob will have their revenge!

The final act has yet to be played out but I suspect the whispering masses, up in the Board room are, even now, as we speak considering their position vis a vis Le Manager. Another failure or abject decision that costs Arsenal £25m for example could be the final act of foolishness that leads to his downfall. And like all tragic figures he won’t have seen it coming.

The denouement of this familiar tale will almost certainly arrive in May or June 2012 after the club has finished 7th or worse in the League and won diddly squat for the 7th year in succession. No dates to add to the already fading paint in The Emirates arena!

Unless…………………………AKB admits he doesn’t know best and that the shrieking mob may have a point that needs addressing urgently AND he acts positively NOW there will be only one outcome – the ultimate fall from grace and the derision of the people, his subjects, who once adored him. He will find himself disgraced, devalued and deported.

My, how the mighty are fallen?

AndyT
AndyT
14 years ago

To be fair the story coming out is that the Ox had an injury. What i don’t understand is why bring on Arshavin when our full backs are already getting a hard time. Arshavin should have been way down the pecking order. Benayoun would surely have been a better shout.
I have up until recently still defended Wenger to a degree but if we could replace him with Mourinho right now i would be ever so slightly aroused

alan b'stard M P
alan b'stard M P
14 years ago

Wavy

it should also be remembered the board makes final decisions and the manager, like it or not must comply

I have no doubt Wenger is allowed some autonomy and will be held responsible, but the board must alter it’s practices

tiny
tiny
14 years ago

well said scott…fans really were disgraceful on sunday. After getting so much respect at 99% of away games inc the old trafford 8-2 we really let ourselves down on sunday…i dont agree with booing a player or a decision at all there are more dignified ways to show your frustrations like some fans did last night on arsenal.com “fans forum”. Im not a AKB by any means either and admit wenger is losing the battle but not necessarily the war/ most of us still think he his a great manager but needs help….for me it all stems back to david deins departure and if somehow fans could grasp arsene needs help and someone alongside him he can turn to things might get back to how they were.
Yes he made a tactical mistake on sunday but if dein would have been there would we have been put in the situation of selling cesc and nasri so late in the transfer window….i dont know what IG does at this club but he dont seem to have any authority on big decisions and maybe is just a yes man to them upstairs

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

Typical…..read exactly what you want and ignore all else.
Those responding and defending themselves should reread my post.
I CLEARLY stated that I was talking about VARIOUS SITES,not any single site in particular and certainly not this one.
I am the first to admit Wenger stuffed up taking Ox off,but anyone thinking it cost us the game knows absolutely nothing about football.
Over the last few seasons the,defence has copped a pasting.
Why is it everyone ignores the fact we create so many opportunities for so few goals?
Oh and Alan,do not pretend to know anything about me.
Idiots can be members of the board,so whether a person is a member or not is a stupid and irrelevant basis of argument.
I saw plenty of fools who were members booing their club…..tell me they are loyal and you wil show me your true colours !!!

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Sorry Scott……if there is someone who wants to read what you want and ignore all else is YOU.

The reason we answered was because you asked us question beginning with “How many of you…..” You means us because you came here asking.

And if we do not know anything about football…..can you kindly tell us how much you know????? Can you show us your qualifications regarding football matters????

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Morning Gooners.
Morning Rico.
Good post Sir Steve.

Good points Potter, i think there’s more going on behind the scenes that we’ll ever know.

I’m sure you’ll recall those rumours of a split between Wenger and our parsimonious Board, that is the Board would not pay the wages for the top players.

That is taking the top earners from 90k pw up to 140/150k pw.

Do those fools on the Board think that RVP is gonna sign for 80/90k pw?

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Today is a classic case of what is happening at our club, with fan turning on fan.

All this is music to the ears of media outlets like Talkshite and Sly Sports….

Disagree by all means, but lets keep it civil you Gooners….

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

Devilgunner,you are either a politician or a retired one…..such a way with words.
My guess is you’re retired,since you obviously have nothing else other than watching football.
Me,too old and broken to still play…….700 odd games means I can barely walk in the mornings. To answer what surely would be your next question….no,I didn’t play at a great level,so I guess the means my opinion means nothing,right?
Coaching…….done plenty,though always with young kids as unfortunately I am a mere mortal working for a living.
My latest lot were babies..5 y.o’s for a new club.
Apparently,its a new thing for observers watching 5 y.o’s actually playing in position,passing,calling for the ball and performing one-twos,but I am sure you would have 3 y.o’s doing it.
Well,that’s it.
Still,I AM entitled to an opinion,i am not here for a pissing competition and I don’t appreciate attempts to put me on show.
Oh,and I am Australian which SURELY means I know nothing.
It does,however,mean I am up at ungodly hours EVERY team Arsenal play,so maybe I am just plain dumb!!!!
Anything else,feel free to ask!

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

LOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL……retired??? 1st April is too faraway mate. Let’s enjoy carnival first.

You are entitled to your opinion yes. by all means. but not criticize others negatively or tell us we know nothing about football. You are not exactly the only one who played it. Neither are you the only one who coached football. Neither does it mean that since you played it at a low level your opinion does not count……infact you played more than AW did mate. He used to play as a centreback and was so crap that even today there are moments when we have our doubts whether he understands the role.

And just one last point……do you teach 5 year olds positional sense???? Woooowwwwwww. And psychology teaches us that positional sense in football does not come before fine motor skills since at that age it is all gross motor and no positional awareness at all.

And no. I am not retired (still got plenty of life in me yet or a long time till pension.) I am not a politician (heaven forbid).

So Scott, next time please, can you look more clearly into your crystal ball before you try and win the lotto.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

And now…..Hiya Sir AK. How are you me old china???

Did you see my link regarding Yennaris??? I never thought that he was AFC through and through.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Seems as if Harry is in for it……BUNGS. Now where have we heard that before ehh mate???

Naija gooner
Naija gooner
14 years ago

I agree with Scott 100%,90% of Arsenal fans never wanted the Ox and Kozzer just becos they believed we could have gotten better players,but you guys are now questioning Arsene’s decision to take a boy who was tiring out and was sick during the week out for AA and Kozzer’s now world class,hypocrites,that’s what u all are.I wonder what u’d have done had AA gone ahead to seal the game for us,obviously u’d be singing Arsene’s praises right about now.Let’s trust Arsene and face those greedy board who has so far refused to sanction big money move.Arsene’s only their mouth piece and u dont really expect him to speak against his employers even if we heard that their was ramblings btw himself and the greedy board last summer,none of u should really expect RVP to re-sign a new contract with their mediocre wage bill.IN ARSENE WE TRUST

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/231932/You-re-losing-it-Arsene-Wenger/

Now read this pile of fabricated tosh.
This is typical of the wankers in our Press trying to drive a wedge thru the middle of our fan-base…..
No basis in truth at all in this article, it’s just based around RVP’s reaction to Oxo’s substitution. And the imagination of the tosser writing this rubbish.
Unfortunately they’ll be Arsenal fans out there, who buy this shitty newspaper and will believe this garbage…..

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Devil, good morning mate.

As much as we’d all find it hilarious to see Harry in the clink, i suspect that he’ll get a suspended sentence and a whopping fine.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Nothing there. All bollock Sir AK.

and that was on RVP’s reaction. Imagine if he was write a piece on the fans reaction.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

yes……but his reputation in tatters. because he is accused of taking bungs. So it means that the scum may well be his last high (sic) post.

BDW…..can you kindly help me. I have been guessed to be a retired pensioneer. I went to look in the mirror and even phoned pa to check whether or not the birth certificate is exact or whether he BUNGED with the date.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

BDW….did you enjoy my email mate???? did I answer all your questions???

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

Devilgunner,you told me plenty about myself and everyone else,but nothing about yourself or your qualifications……again,like a politician.
Anyway,I am proud of my kids achievements,and rather than spending my spare time bitching about Arsenal,I am actually helping kids learn the game,so there is no comparison between us.
Oh,and I would bet everything i own my 5 y.o. son could name clubs and positions of more European players than most…..amazing what Devilgunner,I mean kids, can learn on FIFA 12.
My crystal ball tells me another witty,sarcastic retort that actually says nothing is in the pipeline…..good luck with it lol.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

What does that say about that fat slug PHW……?

Devil, The Star is the paper he talks to…….

Tells me what PHW thinks about the majority of Arsenal fans, that is he thinks we all read/buy The Star…..

PHW is a conceited, ignorant, loathsome, fat waste of space.

alan b'stard M P
alan b'stard M P
14 years ago

Scott, it means a lot as Arsenal is a privately owned business. You are a supporter, you like the rest of us cannot be a member with voting rights you can get in most sporting clubs traditionally ( including Barca }

The board’s legal requirement is to look after the financial interests of the shareholders. Who are the major shareholder? The fucking board!

If it was a member driven club, we could have voted the bastards out.

I can’t see why there is so much sentimentality for blokes whose wages are astronomical

Rico, yes boycotting the ground is best, but I would have no trouble placarding inside it to demonstrate against overpaid freeloaders who are buggering up the traditions and history of what was once…a club

Given the wages they get, I hardly think the poor long suffering bugger paying through the nose for a season ticket would think they have a right to be ” offended “

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Scott, let it go mate……

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Scott, i’m sure you have something worthwhile saying, and i’d like to hear it.

Do you think Wenger will actually do any business in the Window?

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Tut tut tut tut. Self appraisal is no job guarantee.

And no I do not spend my time bitching about Arsenal.

I told you that you are not the only one who coaches. You are not the only one who played football. And I told you are not the only one who coaches kids. And I told you that psychology teaches us that positional sense in football does not come before fine motor skills since at that age it is all gross motor and no positional awareness at all.

And according to you I did not say anything about myself.

Read it carefully will you. Again and again untill you understand that other people do the same things you do……including me and a couple of others on this site.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

And one last comment to you Scott…….the crowd did not Boo Wenger or Arshavin. The crowd booed the Decision to replace the best player with someone who does not put his weight with the team.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Yes Devil, i did get your e-mail, cheers.

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

If its true you aren’t retired,I am truly sorry.
Sorry you aren’t out there coaching kids and imparting your rumoured wisdom into their young football brains.
Stop watching,start teaching……..Wenger can obviously use your help.
Oh,and how did you know about Ryo when we signed him????
He was signed out of absolutely nowhere.
Caught out there,me thinks.

samuel
samuel
14 years ago

It,s rather obvious by now that so many fickle Arsenal fans have no
clue about the game ,what with Bendtner and Chamakh not getting
near enough game time but Arshavin and specifically woeful Walcott
getting way to much game time when it,s clear that neither player can produce on any given matchday ,the midfield with Ramsey and Wilshere lightweight and incapable of getting forward and supporti
ng van Persie or even a few goals of their own ,so where,s Ryo Mi
yaichi and Ji Young-Park whilst the goals are drying up and the midf
ield is short on physical prowess and go forward impetus ?

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

LLLOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

did you just read that AK?????

Should I stop watching and start teaching kids??????

SCOTT, AND I SAY IT IN CAPITALS SINCE YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND…..I HAVE BEEN COACHING KIDS AND SENIORS FOR THE LAST 19 YEARS NOW. IS THAT FUCKING ENUFF????

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

W.A.T.H good day mate.

Now how many did they throw out of the ground last Sunday when all the crowd sang to AW that he did not know what they where doing??? And did they throw RVP out because he disagreed with AW?????

because if they really work that way, then I think that next home game will see a lot of tickets on sale.

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

Devilgunner,I concede defeat.
ANY man that can categorically speak for 55 thousand people is too good for me.
Seriously,the fact you presume to know what everyone else was
thinking shows unprecedented arrogance.
Good luck to you,and i hope your Wenger bashing brings the result you so richly deserve.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Scott…..the pharmacist can give you only from what he has.

alan b'stard M P
alan b'stard M P
14 years ago

W.A.T.H

Ah I see

Well, that buggers my logic then

Nice to see Stewards chuck out a coupla hundred at once HaHa!

Chris C
Chris C
14 years ago

It would appear to me that Arsene Wenger is a lucky manager rather than a good one…

Lucky that he inherited a defence that was one of the best ever seen in Europe let alone England and who didn’t need coaching. Is it a coincidence that since the famous back 5 left we have criticised so much Arsenal’s inability to defend?

Secondly, being French and having a knowledge of French football at a time when it was just peaking (and about to win the World Cup), meant he could bring in the cream such as Anelka, Vieira, Petit, Henry, Pires and Wiltord relatively cheaply and combine it with that defence!

Since the two above groups of players’ careers have ended the success has dried up and this is the true test of a manager that Wenger has failed. Could he rebuild a new successful team? A test that Fergusson for example has passed time andf time again! Clearly Wenger could/has not. I will not list the number of poor players thatwe have endured over the last 7 years…this mail would be too long!!

I fear for my beloved Arsenal. I do not believe Mr Kronke shares our passion for the club but sees Arsenal FC as a revenue generator to help fund other interests. He will also lack the knowledge of how to replace or who to replace Wenger with. As a result he will stick with Wenger for as long as Wenger wants to stay, Continually repeating the same mistakes and bumbling from one injury crisis to another (probably due to the training methods he utilizes)!

I have made excuses for Wenger over many years but now, even I will stop! AOC was changing the game on Sunday in our favour. The substitution of him for AA was inept at best but in reality totally negligent. It did cost us the game because we lost the momentum we were building and it changed the atmosphere within the stadium from positivity to negatively. AA was not totally responsible for United’s winning goal but we was culpable! The fact that the rest of them couldn’t defend it either takes me full circle to my first point!

Mourinho will leave Madrid this summer (he doesnt stay anywhere more than about 3 years)…dare we flirt with his affections?

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

Devilgunner,it should be bloody obvious to any observer my post was being written as yours was posted….any reasonable observer,that is.
Ryo……anything…….were you in Japan…….watching schoolboy games……..throw us a bone.
Alkezkev,Wenger MUST act,but that doesnt mean he will!
Ideally,an attacking midfielder who can put the ball in the net.
Trouble is they do not come cheap,so I doubt it will be coming-certainly not in the next few days.

stevepalmer1
stevepalmer1
14 years ago

Morning all’
It appears that supporters are splitting, those that have not got the heart to move Wenger on, and those that want Arsenal to keep their place as title contenders. Last Year we could have won everything had we invested at the right time. Wenger penny pinched and decided to take a chance and it backfired abysmally. I have always been on Wengers side in the past, in fact i could say i have been his No 1 fan. But he has lost us valuable points with his tight ways and i don’t believe its over yet. Granted we have a reasonable squad when all fit, but Wenger has not got the guts to throw out players that have been bad and replace them. He has spent nothing for several years he has been lucky that some of the players that have come are now progressing but how many points has that cost us Points mean prizes. Its not that supporters are asking to spend what we can’t afford just to buy what we need to be competetive. There must have been money put asside last year but after Wengers dealings we had more than what we started with, so far this window we have spent nothing and we still have no fullbacks available. we have no cover for Van Persie and it is suicide to risk him lasting the rest of the season. Wenger keeps making wrong decisions and it has to be pointed out. We cannot keep burying our heads in the sand and say nothing.

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

Wath,Wenger was speaking to the media,not fans.
That was pretty bloody clear to all.
I guess you believe I have taken part in a one sided argument,based on your last comment…..what a surprise lol.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

A few hundred you said W.A.T.H??? More like 50k seeing that the stadium was in chorus.

Scott…….read my comment carefully………written at 10.33am….”And yes….when he bought the OX, and Ryo, I was excited. Simply because I had seen the ox play”

Never did I mention that I had seen Ryo play. All I said was that I was excited by his arrival as I was when he bought OX. I never mentioned that I had seen RYO play.

So please do not put words I did not say in my mouth.

And as W.A.T.H said …. here we do constructive criticism and accept opinions. It is mud slanging and name calling which we do not accept.

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

Steve,do you honestly believe Wenger chooses not to spend money?
He is answerable to the board,and surely they tell him what he can and cant spend.

alan b'stard M P
alan b'stard M P
14 years ago

W.A.T.H

sounds like Ashburton Grove is a fucking gulag.

See you mentioned people wo’t stand up first in case they lose their season ticket. Well, why not lose it. Why go to the ground at all. Why buy a season ticket?

Gooner Sam
Gooner Sam
14 years ago

Hi Steve, good post and agree completely with your point above. I seem to remember last summer we disagreed about Wengers current ability as a manager but even then I hoped I was wrong and we’d see a return of the old master but ut seems that time has gone. I respect him for what he has done bit time for change. And not just him Gazidas too, what exactly has he done since ge cane apart from be the worst contract man in the clubs history ( both new players and current one). The problem is that there is a lot if change needed and not just Wenger but the current old Boys club is content to sit back and rake in the fans money. We need Usnanov in my opinion but I can’t see it happening any time soon…

alan b'stard M P
alan b'stard M P
14 years ago

Scott you are right there. The board run the show. It really depends on how much influence AW has on the board and what autonomy they give him

AW gets paid about 7 mill quid a year. Enough to be the front man to cop all the flak.What he’s paid for

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

Devilgunner,
You were excited by the signing of someone you’d never seen play!!!
Ok then lol…
Typo,foot in mouth,off on a technicality….classic.

alan b'stard M P
alan b'stard M P
14 years ago

Allezkev

Good vids

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

Wath,I suggest you see the interview,then see which tree I’m barking up.
Wenger calling me…….who is talking shit lol???

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Tbh Scott, i think we need a striker/goalscorer and a versatile defender.

I can see what you mean by an attacking midfielder, but i feel we are well stocked with midfielders, as well as a couple of really talented young midfielders in Ozyakup and Aneke, who will make the breakthrough next season….

lee
lee
14 years ago

AK, spectrum??

lee
lee
14 years ago

loic Remy and jan vertonghen….that’d do, and M’vila for wath! 😉

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago
lee
lee
14 years ago

was only joking but seems there’s been a sense of humour by-pass today! 😆

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Lee,

In Arsene we blah blah blah……..

😀

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ5IOU_sm4g&feature=related

Last one……

Now lighten up peeps…..

stevepalmer1
stevepalmer1
14 years ago

Scott, The board hold Wenger in great estem why shouldn’t they he has made them many millions. I believe that if wenger asked them for a hundred million for players they would find the money and let him spend it. Wenger is a stubborn man he feels that when people say we need players his first reaction is i decide when we need players . Well i’m sorry 7 years without winning a major trophy says his wrong and if you look at it the same way i think you may start to realise that he doesn’t know how to win a trophy, so he doesn’t know whats best does he.

lee
lee
14 years ago

AK, i can’t get on youtube at work!! 🙁

lee
lee
14 years ago
allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Lee…. 🙁

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Bit lively on here today !

Wath, how dare you question Wenger, don’t you know you’ll only be labelled a traitor.

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

Humour is something funny I thought,not sarcastic!
Allezkev,i reckon Wengers in a no win situation.
We have good kids coming through,but because of the stakes involved,its hard to give them adequate game time…….Arsenal need to be winning.
Fans want constant success which doesnt lend itself to blooding players. Players want game time so some are lost to the club.
The system is great when you have a great side,but when the side is struggling,it falls apart.
Imagine the outcry if Wenger said screw results,we are going to give these kids one full season to prove themselves?

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

Steve,you are only assuming he could get the money……you may be right,but who knows?

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

AK….I think that besides the striker/goalscorer and a versatile midfielder we need a new tactical approach. Cesc had said something similiar last year when he said that when he wwent with Spain they used to discuss tactics and that was new to him.

With GG it was drummed in ad nauseam until it became second nature. That is why it went for so long with the famous five because they all worked for each other. I presume that even now in their late forties they would be more solid than what we have at the moment and maybe teach JD a thing or two.

lee
lee
14 years ago

throw in Squil,diaby,aa,waiter,flap and jd? 😉

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

Wath,no he hasnt.
When did he really begin his youth policy?
The kids that were there at the true start are now your 18-19 year olds.
Wilshere,Frimpong….guys like that.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Scott, you might be suprised by the reaction.

If the youngsters are quality, as i believe they are, and the fans can see that they are as well, then Wenger may get more support than you can imagine.

His previous young team, had the likes of Bendtner, Denilson, Eboue, Fabianski;/Almunia, Diaby, Song, Vela, etc. None of them imho ,up to the required standard with the right ‘bloody-minded’ mentality you need to be a winner.

But i love the currant crop of young players.
And i think the likes of Jack, Frim, Coq, Ox Miquel, Yennaris, Ramsey, Afobe etc, can become an electrifying squad of players…..

As long as Arsene adds the odd quality signing to the mix, like Arteta/Koscielny…..

stevepalmer1
stevepalmer1
14 years ago

Scott, Wenger is one of the best known Managers in the world Why would he stay at Arsenal if he was being restricted by money. He could probably get a job for an Arab team on four times what he is earning. believe me he is not being held back, he holds himself back and us.

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

The kid i want to see more of is Lansbury..
Honestly,I would be surprised if the reaction was positive.
Reading comments about how we must beat spurs home,we must finish top 4…..not too sure.
I would love to see it though.

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Kev, wenger has scuttled our russian sub.

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

Steve,its possible he loves the place.

Scott
Scott
14 years ago

Off to bed now….its been interesting.

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Love is blind, maybe he’s become a bit short sighted scott.

ArsenalDK
ArsenalDK
14 years ago

Good afternoon everyone!

Does anyone know whats going on with the youngguns website?

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
14 years ago

Has anyone think that AA is now able to continue playing for Arsenal? Has he the necessary conditions to do it?

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

ADK, Jamie Sanderson was updating his website, but i reckon he’s got a bit sidetracked.

He writes for a few newspapers now, so he’s kinda joined the dark-side!

You can still get info from him via his twitter account.

http://arsenalyouth.wordpress.com/

The above is a very good alternative.

ArsenalDK
ArsenalDK
14 years ago

Thanks a lot AK 🙂

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

JM, i think Wenger will still use him, it’s not Arshavin’s fault that Wenger used him as the sub for Ox.

Mind you, it IS Arshavin’s fault that he plays with so little obvious enthusiasm, when given the opportunity….

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

ADK, try this link mate;

http://twitter.com/YoungGunsBlog

Rockyrocastle07
Rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Afternoon all

Jesus, what’s happened since I left last night?! Seems to be a bit of animosity on here!!

Great post Steve. Interesting to read Smudgers views as well.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Right i’m offski now….

Hi Rocky… 🙂

Bye Rocky… 🙁

lee
lee
14 years ago

Hiya Rocky, was all tetchy earlier…..

Rockyrocastle07
Rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

I know! I love a good arguement usually!! bye AK!

You’re right wath. All the ex pro’s seem to hint at the same thing without saying outright. Glad Smudger has the balls!

Rockyrocastle07
Rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Does that headline shock anyone?! No doubt Ox was told to toe the “I-pulled-you-because-you-were-injured” line!

Rockyrocastle07
Rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

There is that, wath. And you do have to ask yourself who he’s say that to? And why would they then go to the press with it? It’s all guesswork from the media (and us) again!

Rockyrocastle07
Rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Maybe it was Glenn Cockerill…. I’m sure he still holds a grudge with Arsenal…!

Rockyrocastle07
Rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Back in a bit – PC needs rebooting

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Hmmmm…. Not sure if I believe that for one second!

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Ha ha rocky, by the time they picked Cockerill up off the ground his clothes had gone out of fashion.
I saw Paul Davis outside the ground a couple of seasons back, he hadn’t changed a bit, the years had been good to him.

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Rico, I come from a long line of chickens, first sign of trouble and i’m outta here.

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

I remember seeing him on an Arsenal video (may have been “93 for 93”) and was wearing a cap with the biggest peak known to man! It was massive! Still, with an elbow smash like his, I wouldn’t tell him that in person!

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

I know Rico! Needed a woman’s touch to calm things down!

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

I agreed with things they were all saying. It’s just when it gets to the “I know more than you because I played this many games / coach this age group” that I switch off. At the end of the day, common sense SHOULD prevail! You don’t need to have been in the game to be able to tell if something is wrong or not.

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

I think its fair to say most of us would like to see Lansbury back, I’d be really disappointed if he wasn’t back in the squad next season.

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

If he’s not Micko, one way or another, he’s gone.

lee
lee
14 years ago

wish the “common sense WOULD prevail” with someone at AFC………

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

That’s right Rico. You should have been here to calm it down. I cannot stand a person who points fingers and insults. Constructive criticism yes but not telling us off or saying that we are doom mongers.

RR07 you could see I tried to be civil. But AKB’s are on the level of the scum for me.

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Agreed Rico. Although once someone’s got your back up (especially if someone you don’t know calls you ignorant / stupid etc), it’s hard to climb down and not keep going. I know that from plenty of years experience!

lee
lee
14 years ago

if all else fails..a few beers, curry & a fight!

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

TBH some of the things Scott said I was in agreement with. But what he reads on others sites should be kept for other sites. Although we showed reservations on some AW signings we dont knock it back unless it has been tried. For example many on other sites thinks Jenks is poor. I was happy to see him play from day one and kept saying that he is a chip of the Dixon block. Have I ever criticized him??? Or Kozzer????? Never. Its the lackadaisiacal attitude which pisses me off. Or blatantly obvious wrong tactical decisions.

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

I know devil. And a few others asked Scott to leave it. But he believed what he was saying was right, so carried it on. Which to be honest, I respect him for because if he’s had had then suddenly agreed with you and dropped what he believed, he would have looked like a massive cock. But at the end of the day, it’s only words so it’s not the end of the world! The irony is, you’ll both probably agree on something tomorrow and slag off someone who thinks differently about it!!

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

mmmmm… Curry….. I could eat a curry now quite happily….

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Exactly devil! I think Jenks is going to be pretty decent, and the boy never gives up (as he showed when he was the only positive performance in the 8-2 mauling). And as for Kozzer… He’s gointg to be immense! Even Wrighty in the Sun this morning compared him to Vidic!

lee
lee
14 years ago

in could eat curry pretty much anytime…kozzer DM?

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Sorry folks……hope I did not let the family down. But anyone dares insult the HH family and I round him up.

lee
lee
14 years ago

Rico, who you proking? 😆

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Walcott could learn a lot from Jenks on how to cross a ball as well.

Kozzer made a few errors early on but he seems to have cut all that out now, he’s gonna go on to do well for us.

Can’t be too much longer before we see our first choice defenders fit again, we’ve missed sagna badly.

lee
lee
14 years ago

wtf is Stan?? nailing? smoking? not heard a peep from him in ages……

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

I am a bit of mates. Later on for some comments. Off to the ground!!!!

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Devil……….give them hell.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

its team shape today. plus set pieces. game tomorrow so I will be late on HH.

cu lata mates.

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Lee, Stan was last seen riding into the sunset on Shergar.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

last comment……I know that Scott had posted here before and usually his comments are civil and constructive. Its that I was wondering if it was the same Scott or perhaps someone else under the same name. The same situation I was in with Dutch Gooner when everyone kept referring to us as DG. That is why I wanted it sorted.

lee
lee
14 years ago

yeah yeah sagna’s shite… what are some people smoking??

lee
lee
14 years ago

that was my call, Rico….

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Wath, you won’t hear me knocking Sagna, he’s probably the best right back in the league on his day, a proper defender.
If I didn’t know better I’d say the scum took him out on purpose.

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

Boo! Interesting exchange today. 😉 😀 rico, wink, wink, nudge nudge. Can’t be left alon, can they?? 😀

Dev, don’t worry about it. 🙂 Scott, if you come here and post more often you would know this is not one of those unpalatably vitriolic sites.

Hello, all.

lee
lee
14 years ago

we could do with sagna-esque LB…..

lee
lee
14 years ago

agag what have you done to Stanley?? he’s chuck norris…..

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Some-one in the kenny Sansom mould would do nicely, hi agag.

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

Lee, I hope goonster’s not in prison or something… He seems quite rash and excitable ha ha. He’s probably busy with his new lady though. 😀 😀

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Rico, did you hear their selling rvp tea trays in the arsenal clubshop, they carry 10 mugs !!!

A bit naughty that.

lee
lee
14 years ago

the ox looks shite too 😉
I thought wath dealt with the proceedings today eloquently and succinctly! you can’t tar the regular HH’ers with bloggers on other sites… THE END!

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

WATH, “if the shoe fits” eh?? 😀 Ha. January sales. (sigh) You have some pretty fantastic shoe designers in England. I super like!

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

Hi, rico. Howdy?? Notice how stuff like earlier happens when you are off with the woofa. Hah. 😀 Enough said.

Micko, that tea tray joke would be funny if only it were not true. 🙁

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

WATH, you just called yourself “old”. Finally, an admission. 😀 😀

Doc Martens??? Naaaah, I’m a Jimmy Choo sort of girl. 😉

EastSidePaul
EastSidePaul
14 years ago

Guys a lot of fuss over nothing! We still got Cesc Fabregas right? Right??!

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

And you also called yourself “soft”, hah. 😛 Jimmy Choos are your sweet confection of a shoe. Jimmy Choo is love.

Have we bought anyone yet???

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

ESP!!! I won’t say a peep about Rambo. God, he was off on Saturday.

lee
lee
14 years ago

this Jimmy Choo sounds like he’s light on his loafers! 😆

EastSidePaul
EastSidePaul
14 years ago

Oh ye of little faith! Wenger is about to pull off the signing of the Jan window! Rosicky is going to sign a contract extension!

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

http://eu.jimmychoo.com/shoes/sandals/icat/sandalsrw/

Sweet, yes?? Oh, you gents have much to learn about shoes. tut tut. Hopeless.

lee
lee
14 years ago

don’t you lot go picking on WATH….when AK gets back from his afternoon siesta all hell will break loose…. 😉

lee
lee
14 years ago

http://eu.jimmychoo.com/cruise-12/viola/invt/113violagle/ …..that’s how much my st was………….

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

The thing is ESP, if Rosicky plays every week like he did on Sunday, I’d happily see him again!

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Has any more come out about Jowler’s alleged bungs today?

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

At least Gibb’s feet might not shatter everytime he kicks a ball wath!

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

What’s ST, Lee? And razzle, WATH?? By the way, I quite I like the first pair. 🙂 🙂 The second is unmitigatedly eeewww. If the second pair were an AFC player, it would be Denilson. 😕

Are we really in for Zarate? rocky, I like Rosicky. Great technique, moves the ball forward, can get stuck in. Shame he was out for so long and now seems past his best.

lee
lee
14 years ago

Season ticket

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Hiya All. Afternoon.

Missed a few rounds in the ring I read.

SP fine post enjoyed it till the root.

lee
lee
14 years ago

25 ruby’s or a flash pair of rythmn & blues….no contest!! 😉

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Rosicky has suddenly developed a combative style of play which I like. Really gets stuck in now.

Zarate is crap. Didn’t like him when he was at Brum either. Not good enough for us.

I was thinking something else for Razzle!

Oh, and what is this GG that you all speak of?!

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

Ahhh. Why are season tickets sooo pricey?? 😀

WATH, yuck to the nth. Who in the right mind would buy those?

rico, Nadal won. 🙂

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Ahhhh, gotcha! Only ever owned one bottle of that . The lemon one (and that’s only because it was cheap in duty free!) As a non-drinker, it was wasted on me!!

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

rocky, GG is WATH’s fair feathered friend. Steve P has taken a liking to it as well. 🙂 🙂

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Haha! I’ve hears it’s nice, agag. Never would have thought so, being French and all (nothing against the French, but they’re hardly well known for Vodka!)

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Zarate is a Lazio/Inter reject. Still 24 though. Think it’s another wind up. His link last summer reverberated.

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

rico, what is ST??

Reading all your glowing commendations of Zarate, rocky and Dutch… I suspect we’d be after him then. 😉

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

Haha, I believe ya, rico. 🙂 It’s Federer again v. Nadal. Ought to be a great match.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

‘Eer ‘ere ‘ere, whose been picking on Wath………? 🙁

You lot leave my Grandson alone…..

Afternoon Gooners… 😉

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Hope not Agag, the fellow has been a football nomad for quite a few years now. Going from continent to continent. Think he is one of those South Americana that want to hammer out as much dough as his travelplans allow him.

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

I have a Whickey Mac every now and then at special occasuions or maybe a disorrono and cdiet coke (Not the most manly drink, I admit!) but apart from special occasions, I leave it alone. I’ll let the others drink my share for me!

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Agag, your 4.00;

That wasn’t your legs in those sandals was it?

Nice… 😉

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Whisky Mac* (no idea what a Whickey Mac is……)

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

What’s all this old tosh i keep reading about Zarate?

And yeah, where is Stan?????

Dutch your gonna have to send out search party…..

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Nothing to do with Whickey Leaks is it Rocky? 😀

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago
rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Haha! Call me Assange AK!

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

WATH, you have hoarded the world’s supply of GG. Driven the price up! I can’t afford to buy a bottle now. And what on earth are those complicated sounding drinks, rocky??

Dutch, who would you have. I am easy to please so I’d have Hazard. 😀

Boo, AK, I wish!! 🙂 You haven’t been out shopping, have you?

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Agag – Whisky Mac is whisky and ginger wine. Awenome. Disorrono (amaretto) and coke tastes like Dr Pepper. Good stuff!

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Wath……. You and your bloody extra buttons….. 😉

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

Well, stilettos are named after an Italian dagger WATH. 😛

I’ll shut up about footwear now.

rocky, those sound lovely. Must. Try. Sometime. 🙂 🙂

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

AK

Search party??

Agag Hazard will do nicely. 🙂 I like the new kid on the block from Brazil. Damaio. Not proven and tested in Europe but he is making waves in the samba league. (Sorry Rico not pulling your chain here) 😉

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Rodallega has basically said he’s leaving Wigan. Wouldn’t be shocked if he turned up at the Emirates. Disappointed, yes. Shocked? No.

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Just beat you to it Rico!

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

Great minds and all that…!

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

Dutch, I think JM or KT have mentioned Damiao, as well. I haven’t seen anything other than youtube vids though.

Why buy vodka, WATH? I’ll just nick from you. 😀 Oh, and if you want to keep your wife, you do not give her those atrocious pink shoes. Ick.

rico, don;t get all excited, now. 😛

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Rodallega since he is Colombian, he could be send back in a body bag if he fails in internationals. Too much asset risk for the deskjockeys that we call the board.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Samba Rico?

Gotta be very carefull when i’m blogging about ages on here.

There’s a little old gremlin around, that keeps on misrepresnting me…. 😀

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

Worth keeping Rosicky, rico. An older head and one who doesn’t moan moan moan, can only be good.

Dutch, maybe rodallega could flourish with us. 🙂

Good night, friends!! Behave!!

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

That’s it, give Rosicky a new contract and immediately he’ll join Diaby in the sick-bay…. 🙄

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Agag, good night twinkle toes.

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
14 years ago

Damião is a interesting player.
do we expect sign anyone?

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
14 years ago

Who had seen Chamack yesterday?
with Maroc score, he could be with us in two weeks…

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Agag with a tombstone on his belly?? I guess. Night stiletto vixen.

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

I’d let Rosicky go myself, he’s no more than a squad player these days, I’m not having a dig, just think we’ve seen the best of him, he’ll always come on and give 100% and you can still see he has a lot of enthusiam for the game but Father time has caught up with him and its no surprise considering what he been though, we have too many average players in the squad, we need to get rid and bring in a bit of quality.

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

I like it Rico – works well with my bleak outlook on life!

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

night agag!

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Hi JM

Can you tell a bit more about Damiao?

rockyrocastle07
rockyrocastle07
14 years ago

me too… I’ve never heard of him to be honest!

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Rico, don’t you start as well…… :P:

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Rico last time I heard Samba was asked to bring his mum if he wishes to buy a pack of Skittles.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

I’m not entering anything to do with age, there’s too many twitchy fingers on dodgy buttons…

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Kev, you only need to worry if a gyspy woman stops you in the street to read your face, that’s always a bad sign.

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Hi WATH,

I agree with Lee. Eloquently moderated. But I can’t blame Devil for his replies. Scott basically called 4 out of 5 regulars on HH hypocrites in his first post. Finger pointing YOU this, YOU that based on cumulative experiences anywhere else but here. He was looking for a pissing contest to be honest imho. He just drew blanks and got a Ace from the deck served. But it was skillfully handled from your part cuz he was slipping into a delirium rage trance.

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Haha Arry opening a Monaco account in his dog name. It must be a goldenretriever.

Also might be a crypt message to AW reference of his former employer.

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Haha Arry opening a Monaco account in his dog name. It must be a goldenretriever.

Also might be a crypt message to AW referral of his former employer.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Just back folks. Washed and ready. Soon of to eat.

Baines???? Much as I would like it to happen I do not think it would. He is 27 and I do not think that Everton would sell him as the fans would revolt. On the other hand if we signed him it would mean that either the medical team are afraid that anyone of Gibbs/Santos would not recover completely. Otherwise AW will simply wait for them to recover,

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Rico maybe Wenger has a similar setup in Monaco, under Dobbermann Pincher.

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

WATH I am fine thanks. Point taken. End off.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

http://www.arsenalinsider.com/4119/revealed-is-this-the-new-arsenal-away-kit/

Have you seen this site folks??????

I kind of like this new kit.

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Had to Google Rico but :-p . You can easily mistake that for your fluffy slipper in the morning.

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

The kit resembles our third away kit from 2008, with more horizontals added. I fancy the dark navy blue makes the crest really stand out.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Evening all you Youngsters, and Wath……

I liked the redcurrant that took us to Paris in 2006.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Also liked the gold kit we won the Double in 2002

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

My all time favourite was the 2006 home kit. Why we dont use it more often I dont know. The redcurrant colour is a favourite of mine.

Regarding the away kit I also like the all dark blue one besides the gold one.

And we seem to win more with the yellow/blue colours than with any other colour.

So the new away kit just adds the two colours I really liked, although I would have preferred a redcurrant top with dark blue neck and dark blue shorts.

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

AK the gold kit would’ve been appropriate for our 125 anniversary. Me thinks.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Good idea Dutch.

I thought we looked classy in it.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

What I often wonder about, and I do find it galling, is that a club of Barcelona’s stature do not change their gear as often as we do. Their gear has been the same from time immemorial (the home gear I meant) and the away gear stays for around two years. I know its money the club is after but I also feel that whenever the club tinkers with its tradition its like ripping the soul out of the club.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Devil, Arsenal used to have a change, home or away, every two years.

Now the money grabbing bastards change it every season.

Plus the third kit…… 🙁

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

My old pa used to like the 1978 shirt, with the canon emblazoned in the middle of the chest. And he still has it. I also have one from 1978, when I was still a kid but its the red one.

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Like your suggestion Devil. The horizontals remind me too much of a Yankee chain gang. Sad reminder to our owner.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Have a look at these….

http://www.toffs.com/

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Rico……”Get back some history i say, get the old colours back as well as the red and white, rebuild the arsenal of old and the passion that came with it…..”

That is my greatest wish…..to give AFC back to the real fans like Barca. That is why I wish I was a billionaire. Buy the club and change the statute to say that no one can buy more than 10% of the shares. And that the President has to be elected every two years. O hope I live long enough to see it happen (not me as the owner but to see the club in the hands of the supporters)

STV
STV
14 years ago

Hell all….

Very good post SP.. Lots of interesting comments as well.. Rico HH is serving it’s purpose well..

lee is the funniest man here 😉

STV
STV
14 years ago

Hello all….

Very good post SP.. Lots of interesting comments as well.. Rico HH is serving it’s purpose well..

lee is the funniest man here 😉

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Totally concur with your last comment Devil, including the forewords from Rico.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Hi STV.

Lee is the funniest you say????

Wait till you meet Goonie. We have been missing him a lot and if we manage to get our hands on the fella he’s in for it….for being absent a lot these last few days.

Where the hell are ya GOOOOONNNNIIIEEEEEEE?????

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Hiya STV. Correct Lee is very entertaining. Missing Goonster as well good company never a dull moment.

STV
STV
14 years ago

hi Devil..

It used to be WATH.. But less GG and more Arsenal defeats along with some other issues made him bit more serious 😉

Spot on AK why the heck they change the kit every year !! 2006 home kit was my favourite too.. Classy !!

stevepalmer1
stevepalmer1
14 years ago

Evening all,
You guys have been absolutly brilliant on here today, blinding comments, little bit of needle, Big Brother Wath keeping order, Guys more funnyer than comics on the tele. It has to be said true Gooners one and all. Maybe we don’t all agree all the time and thats the way it should be. But for people to care this much about a football team shows how much it matters Proud to be among you. now for a top up.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

AK resident geriatric?? that has cracked me up. wait till you get an email from me AK.

I am off folks. long day tomorrow, so I might not be on the site all day. Maybe for a bit during my break at around eleven and then after 19.00hrs. Got a game and if we win tomorrow we stay in touch behind the leaders.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

It’s alright STV, they only usually let Wath out of his care home at weekends…… 😯

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Wath, 8.11;

Gotta say though, agag has a nice pair of pins…

Well i assume that picture was of her legs……

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Good night resident geriatric. c ya mate 😆

stevepalmer1
stevepalmer1
14 years ago

Must be more people drinking it Wath 🙂

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Devil, my mate Wath needs no encouragement habib…. 😉

Wath's Grandad
Wath's Grandad
14 years ago

Well, we’ll all have have a meet outside Islington Town hall in May after beating liverpool in the FA Cup Final.

I HAVE A DREAM……. :P:

STV
STV
14 years ago

ha ha WATH..AGAG infact only thing AGAG cares these days is about 😛 .. Hows your over 75 coaching going ??

wonder where priscella has been.. spotted in Ireland few weeks ago. No news then

AK they know that you’ll take care of him ?? No wonder he made you captain 😛

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Night Devil. Put them to sword tomorrow.

Wath Is Really Older Than AllevKev
Wath Is Really Older Than AllevKev
14 years ago

At last the truth has to come out.

Well it will in the morning…..

Ha Ha Ha….. 😆

stevepalmer1
stevepalmer1
14 years ago

Stan was told to tie his laces to the bed post, he’ll find his way out enentually, his mum must be looking for him by now, she’s missing a dress.
Nte all.

Wath Is Really Older Than AllevKev
Wath Is Really Older Than AllevKev
14 years ago

See you in the morning Rico… 😉

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Hang on, just putting the zimmer away… 😉

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Cheers STV….. 😉

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Good night Stevo…..

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Cheers SP.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Rico…… 😆 😆

allezkev is only 79
allezkev is only 79
14 years ago

The truth is out….

STV
STV
14 years ago

pee break !!!! lols @ u,…..

does rico have any role in the team ?
You should seriously think about a friendly match against Devil’s u 17. Zimmer frame might frighten kids 😉

allezkev is only 79
allezkev is only 79
14 years ago

Stv, i’m leathal with a zimmer

allezkev is only 79
allezkev is only 79
14 years ago

Ok i’m offski for the day, great larf.

See you all tomorrow, young and old….. 😉

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Nighty night all…. 😀

STV
STV
14 years ago

Night AK.. send my regards to Allevkev 😉 😉

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

Anyone watching Cardiff v palace? Good left winger for palace zaha I think he’s name is…..

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

Keown doing some commentary too……

STV
STV
14 years ago

wishing Mrs speedy recovery, AK..

Am off too see u all later

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Night AK. C u tomorrow.

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

Night AK!

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

They’ve also get the ex yid gardener, who’s scored an own goal….

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

Night ST

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

Not a bad game tbh…

DutchGooner10
DutchGooner10
14 years ago

Night STV.

Off too peeps. Find you in the comments tomorrow.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Not gone yet …… AND I KNOW WHO TO BLAME…..

But there is always tomorrow… 😆

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Gone Now… 😉

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

Just worked out kenny miller still knocking about…

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

BBC deux!

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

Gotta want palace to win, rite?

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

Did I read earlier we’ve bid on baines? Now he’d fucking do!!!!

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

AK’s not 79….. 😉

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

17yrsold zaha…..

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

Only player score hatricks PL div 1,2,3 FA cup League cup and an international one too…….?

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

Robert Earnshaw……

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

Night Rico!

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

Cardiff… Tbh I think lots with them…

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

My first answer was Roy of the Rovers! 😆

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

Me too, night WATH……GG stands for George Graham! 😉

Lee
Lee
14 years ago

Night..

alan b'stard M P
alan b'stard M P
Reply to  devilgunner
14 years ago

personally, coming from a rugby tradition, I think it is heresy to have a different away kit unless the opposition for the day has similar. I don’t even like sponsor’s names of shirts/jerseys

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
14 years ago

We lost all the matches versus Fulham this season !

Scott from Oz
Scott from Oz
14 years ago

Devilgunner,I just read what I missed after going to bed last night,and one comment is kind of insulting.
You believe me to be an AKB ….you’re wrong,but are entitled to that opinion.
Why is it you label these people on the same level as scum?
Simply because somebody disagrees with you is hardly a reasonable excuse for that.
I’ve changed my name so there is no confusion as to who I am.
I will remain civil,but some of you seemed to carry on as if i were the only person trading insults.
All i ask is a fair go and to have my opinion respected,but we “scum” don’t seem to have that right in the eyes of some.

alan b'stard M P
alan b'stard M P
Reply to  devilgunner
14 years ago

hi all

I heard they were making Docs in England again

alan b'stard M P
alan b'stard M P
14 years ago

Scott from Oz

the AKBers don’t just disagree, they are rusted on fan boys. Justified criticism of AW is like Criticising Christ himself

alan b'stard M P
alan b'stard M P
14 years ago

devilgunner says:
January 24, 2012 at 7:07 pm

http://www.arsenalinsider.com/4119/revealed-is-this-the-new-arsenal-away-kit/

Have you seen this site folks??????

I kind of like this new kit.

all we need now is a few blokes that can play football