Morning all.
Yesterday was the first time in a long time that under Arsene Wenger, we lost to a club promoted from the Championship the previous summer. That was in 2006 when Neil Warnock conjured up a 1-0 victory over us which caused a bit of a shock. Losing to Brighton though came as no surprise, not to me anyway. That defeat made it four in a row on the road, something not done since way back in 1925 as Kev reliably informed me yesterday and 1925 was the year when Herbert Chapman replaced the sacked Albert Leslie Knighton.
To this day Arsenal fans remain divided over who the better manager is/was, Chapman or Wenger. Pneumonia cut short Chapman’s life and of course his Arsenal managerial career, one which I suspect would have brought the club far more success.
Arsene Wenger on the other hand has stayed so long that all the good he once did, he’s now undone by taking us pretty much right back to where we were when he arrived. Actually, it could be said that Brice Rioch was improving us and we’d not long signed the great Dennis Bergkamp. Player power saw to the end of Rioch though, something which I wish would happen today with Arsene Wenger. I know it shouldn’t need to be that way because by now the owner/board should have done something about the managerial mess we are suffering a long time ago but it looks like they don’t have the stomach for it, or the balls. As someone said yesterday, if the Chelsea players could do it to get Mourinho the sack, they why can’t ours?
But I think they are and have been for a while. They’ve downed tools and everyone, well nearly everyone can see it. Arsene Wenger still has his supporters, he probably always will and although those numbers might lessen as days go by, the most important people who need to see things clearly are those on the board. Maybe they already do, we certainly have to hope so.
Josh Kroenke on how daddys clubs are run:
“Our philosophy has always been to put good people in place and let them make the decisions that they see fit, while providing adequate resources.”
I’m sure he could pull a few strings though, after all, it’s looking highly likely that the club will one day be in hands. That is unless his father decides enough is enough and sells up. Nice thought eh.
Arsenal aren’t a club which flirts with relegation each summer, it’s not a club which yo-yos up and down from the premier league to the championship either but it’s one which looks as if it would be more at home doing so.
Arsenal are a club which moved to a fancy new 60,000 stadium, with fans assured that the move would see us competing with the best. It’s a club which should be far better than the neighbours, Liverpool and even Utd and it’s a club with a group of players who really shouldn’t be making the same mistakes on the pitch week after week, month after month and season after season. It certainly shouldn’t be thirty odd points adrift from City in top spot either. It’s a club steeped in history, it’s based in the big City and it’s one of the finest clubs around.
This club, our club and us fans deserve more, much more. By that I don’t mean winning the treble every season but to have the inner belief that every now and again we can win the Premier League and in between times, we’ve given the challenge to do so, a bloody good go but that’s not been the case since 2004. Some of you might argue that we’ve come close on a few occasions but I’d have to disagree. Yes we’ve had our chances but when the time came to kick on, the ship sank in style, usually just after the turn of the year.
The man who back in 2004 had the desire and ability to keep his players focused and driven to go unbeaten after securing his third Premier League trophy is a shadow of the manager he was back then. Years have taken their toll, younger managers have overtaken him and the game has passed him by. As said before by many, he’s an analogue manager in a digital world. The board need to bring our club into the present with one eye on the future too. Ditch the house brick and go Apple.
I don’t know if things will change this summer, I doubt any of us do but we can only hope that by the time the new campaign kicks off, we’ll have a new manager leading this team. Kroenke and the board need to have a plan for the summer, if there’s not already have one in place.
If they have, Arsene Wenger can be as defiant as he wants after each defeat. He can insist he’s the one to turn things around, just as he can discuss anything else about his future at Arsenal but if the board decide his time is up, it’ll be up.
And no breaking up of drink stirrers whilst sat doing little else in the dugout will change that….
Downed tools rico?? Did you see ozil’s reaction after the second goal went in??? I don’t think those mugs are playing so crappy on purpose I think that’s all they ve got in their tank presently. It’s how the manager wants them to play. Morning Rico.
Morning Stan.
Downed tools, yes because they don’t believe in the manager. That’s how I see it anyway. Ozil can do what he likes after we concede a goal, but what about the effort to not conceding a goal? Where’s that?
I think we owe this man to run out his contract he has been a great servant to arsenal and i would let him complete his 2years and meanwhile set up a replacement.This would allow the club to find the correct replacement and not some short term mr fix it.
Allan, what do we owe him for?
The first ten years? Personally, I believe we owe him nothing whatsoever. He’s earned enough over the years imo, he needs nothing else from us or the club…
Oh brother here we go again. You know what am not gonna say a word. It’s too early in the morning to lose my shit.
Good Goonster because we all have differing opinions..
You know what screw it I ‘ll say something. Allan let him run down his contract you say huh??? Alright quick question what if that results in us getting relegated??? Would you still stand by your previous comment?? This gotta be good. I await your reply kind sir.
One could argue Stan that what if he stays and wins the PL next season?
Reality is, both scenarios are highly unlikely…
re Allen post.
We’ve been tolerant of this nonsense for the last 4-5 years. We have allowed him to oversee a shoddy team ethic and the players do not seem to want to bother. This is a downward spiral and if he is allowed to run out his contract we will surely end up in the Championship. The form of the team is ‘relegation’ form. All the other managers in the league know how to play against us and that is why our away record is so pathetic. The Board must act NOW and tell him his time is up so that the new man can come in and lift what confidence the players have left for the remaining matches of the season.
Why do you think he can turn it around, the players have given up on him.
The Kroenkes have monetised everything and the club is purely a business proposition to them. They could never understand the feeling that supporters have for it. I realised this a while ago and I have found that my support has dwindled as a result. In my heart I am still an Arsenal boy, Islington-born. But in my head I know that this is ‘my’ Arsenal in name only and I have balanced the extraordinary costs of visiting the stadium as a Season Ticket holder and just don’t see it at the moment. The Kroenkes have weaponised our love for the club and attached a monetary value to it. Fair enough. They are hard-nosed American business people. I get that 100 percent . But they have also stood by and watched Wenger slowly but surely let the club drift and waste 100’s of millions of £s. Their part of the bargain is to keep Arsenal competitive and this have have abjectly failed to do.
If you’ve seen Man City play, then you’ll understand that is the standard Arsenal must be looking at. It’s too easy to say that they are the richest club and that they have the best manager. A manager that could and in my opinion, should have been ours. There are other ways to really achieve in this league but it’s going to need the right man in place with the right backing. The Kroenkes probably have a figure in mind. But we’re arent the only club wanting to usurp their position and be the best. One thing is absolutely certain though and that is that Arsene is not the man to take things forward from here. Take a look at the points column. That’s the reality of Arsenal today and it ain’t pretty.
Well said Adam. I don’t think many clubs are now what they used to be, certainly the ones with overseas owners/majority shareholders. Once foreign ownership came in, the love for a club went and was replaced by a business model.
Some are like Kroenke who sit back and let others get on with it, others are like City and Chelsea, who know great investment will achieve their goal and that’s to be the best..
If what Josh Kroenke said is 100% then the board really have some questions to answer.
By the way, not one of them were at the game yesterday, not one…
Emyr. Totally agree.
Rico that’s laughable maam? Wenger couldn’t win it the year leceister won it. That season was his best chance in a decade to win it yet we floundered. Hey atleast we beat leceister twice that season so that itself is a title ???we ‘re closer to the relegation zone than the top and our form since the turn of the year has been abysmal. There’s no way in hell this arsenal team comes 5th next season let alone win it. Rico you crack me up ma’am ?
As is getting relegated Goonie, neither scenarios will play out. Which was my point really..
Adamant
Adam vitesse beat Ajax yesterday so am super stoked this morning ????my Ajax supposing uncle won’t pick up his phone since last night. Be a pal Adam and call him for me???
Rico everyone and their mama know how we are up under Wenger. Heck pep even wrote in his book how to stop us and that was in his Barcelona days. We couldn’t even beat a Swedish minor league team over 2 legs and you think Wenger can pull a surprise??? Hahaha come on Rico quit yanking my chain ?
*set up
Where did I suggest he could Goonie?
Not only the players and fans have downed tools – apparently not one member of the Board wanted to miss their Sunday lunch and travel to Brighton yesterday – another first !
However I honestly believe there’s a lot going on at the club which contradicts the notion that we are sleep walking into oblivion.
Ignore the fan vitriol and tabloid headlines, Ivan Gazidis is a smart guy who knows football. He has made three big appointments this year which point to a whole new management structure and direction for the club post Wenger. Gazidis has opened an office at London Colney, Josh Kronke has entered the frey. All this points to preparation. I find it quite conceivable that Wenger is being kept in the loop – the club have a lot of respect for the man, even if we don’t. I also find it conceivable that last summer the club took a strategic decision that we were not then ready for “post Wenger” and he was asked to stay on for another one or two years. This would explain why the contract situation was not resolved until May and the hefty pay rise.
I am not making any case for hanging onto Wenger, I would have let him go in 2008, but I do believe those that run the club are not all the one dimensional money grabbing cardboard cut-outs we see described every day on the internet.
Good comment Steve.
Just why I’m convinced he’s going in the summer, regardless of what’s he tells the media.
Afternoon all and thank you Rico.
I`m out of Emergency Isolation ManFlu and downgraded to ManCold, so still in intensive care !
We will never hit the highs of CFG without the same money and similar coach I`m afraid, they might aswell be on another planet……………………..as for Wenger……………Chicken and Egg situation, he needs to go, but so do the unintelligible board, they wont sack him !…………………….any other owner would !
Actually wasn`t disappointed yesterday as I have reached the tipping point where I think every loss is a good result and the only way to get the board/owner out and I still believe the owner is the bigger problem……………………only a clone of Pep would get us playing that kind of football, but we would probably need the money for players to execute his philosophy…………………hence the owner/board problem……………”“Our philosophy has always been to put good people in place and let them make the decisions that they see fit, while providing adequate resources.”……………………it would have to be something more than “adequate” to rival CFG !………………………..my car is “adequate”, it gets me from A to B…………………………..my attire is “adequate”, it`s fit for purpose of work !…………………………..but I`m not going to pull Shakira with a Pug 107 dressed in white overalls !
Lucky to be here LCM….glad to see you pulled through! If a woman had caught that it would of been a certain fatality!! 😉
Oi Oi you two!! 😉
Hahaha Lee, so true !………………………..If Rico had what we`ve had the only way she would be ale to run HH would be though a Ouija Board…………..not a Key Board !
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I’ve had it for the last ten days Lc. Right now I sound like I’ve been smoking twenty cigarettes for the last twenty years….
But you haven’t heard me complaining eh…. lol
Hahaha Rico…………………….compared to us meek men, that`s the equivalent of having ten days in Benidorm with Wenger as a pampering servant teaching you the ways of mental strength and showing you how to make unfudgeable zips from cherry blossom origami !
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I need to lay down again !
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No we haven’t Rico but we can “feel” it…..
I wouldn’t want ten days in Benidorm with or without Wenger Lc… lol
Cheeky Lee… 😉
The Police in Italy are treating the death of Astori yesterday as suspicious… Manslaughter according to reports in the press.
People like Allan are the reason Wenger still believes he can lead Arsenal to Success…. I can’t jst wait for this summer transfer to start already coz this season has been total crap…. Afternoon Rico , Great post!!!
Afternoon Victor and thanks.
I think what’s going on at Arsenal and with Arsene Wenger has gone too far for any decision to be made by fans, Europa or where we finish the season. The performances are shocking and that alone should be enough to see the club and him part company very soon.
Throw in the wasted money, the squad lacking in key areas, etc etc, well, that should be enough I’d have thought.
Good Afternoon Rico….
Wenger will not go and ……evryone know even the press they know is futile.
One thing that is going lost on this Wenger in or out cloud is :
What happen to this so called physio gurus newly hired.
The first 11 no one can say were over used specially this season and yet look like completely phisically burned yesterday.
Form and confience issue okay is as low as it can be……..but……the phisical thing ?
So why no one is asking the physios role in this ?
The injury rable is clean yesvbut reality is players are nit strong as others like liverpool Spus and Mancesters
To cut only Wenger is not a solution.
The surgeon need to go much mych deeper i guess.MONEY
And that is where Kronke is questionable.
Afternoon Alex.
Thanks Db, bearing in mind he so often tells us that he too loves the club, one would have thought the penny would have dropped by now. It’s him who has got us in this mess and if he wants things to improve, then leave…
Outstanding article. A reflection of the deep routed anxiety we surely all feel. Sadly, if you have a successful business but fail to reinvest and move with the times, you become weak, insignificant and predictable.
Please AW, for the sake of the club we all hold so dear, just go.
Too Good To Go Down. Don’t think so. Our formal in 2018 is relegation former. Thankfully we have enough points on the board to avoid relelation (haven’t we)? If this fraud stays another season then relegation it is. Every team and it’s dog will come to the Emirates expeciting 3 points, what will le fraud do about, fiddle with his zip. Don’t think I can take another season of this. Maybe he has a “scorched earth” policy for next season. His way of paying back those pesky supporters.
Can Arsenal be relagated under the bad management of AW? Absolutely, these businesses never thought they will go out of business: Compaq, Polaroid, Kodak, Nokia, Pan Am, Blockbuster Video, Tower Records, US Steel, Napster, Ericsson Phones, MSN Messenger, etc, etc ,etc. Under wrong management ideas, everything bad is possible.
I don’t think we’d get relegated under Wenger, he’d be sacked before that happened surely…
I do think we have suffered from a double edged sword. For Gazidis to step up as a CEO it required Wenger to go over his head. How weak can that CEO be if an employee can go over his head and convince Silent Stan that Wenger is still best for AFC even though we are dropping on the sporting side due to tactics and coaching… I believe that was the real ‘catalyst for change’, Gazidis then went and hired some people himself for AFC and we have seen a contract negotiator come in, a gem finder come in and now Raul who helped get transfers done and also helped Barca increase income with his contacts.
Silent Stan isn’t running our club, he will listen to the people he hires to know about the job, for me the blame has to go to Gazidis. He is our CEO, he has the power to hire people which he has only just started to do, he should have done this years ago! We all seen Wenger declining but instead of trying to bring AFC forward, he carried on working on bumping share prices by undermining the manager which just magnified Wengers flaws.
Our current situation has been built from years of neglect and it isn’t all down to Wenger, at least Gazidis is finally stepping up… It took years to see this change and I find it kinda funny we see this change after we all read about how Wenger bypassed Gazidis for his new contract.
Not saying Wenger should stay or he is some kinda god, he isn’t. He has plenty of faults and I do personally look forward to post Wenger.
I’m saying Gazidis isn’t good enough. The changes bring hope but it doesn’t take away the issue of Gazidis failing for nearly a decade. UTD Ed Woodward is someone to point towards as an example, he helped UTD massively increase their income so they can afford to spend more on players, the owners are not putting their hands into their own personal pockets to sign the players. UTD was bought using UTDs money! They was in a worse position than us in a business sense and look how much change a top guy can make on the board. We got Gazidis during the old boards desire to bump up share prices and Silent Stan has liked his share prices increase in value… Gazidis can sell the future for short term benefits. He has done.
That was our real problem IMO, glad to see changes and hope they cover his flaws, no human being is perfect so we got to hope we get people in who can support each other and get the best out of each other.
Wenger and Gazidis is not that partnership.
Middy, if Wenger is the control freak many of us believe he is then I say good on Gazidis for doing what he’s done in bringing others into the club.
Late yes but I guess he had to bide his time…
I said over ten years ago we would never win another title under Wenger.what a waste .
Arteta would have learned a lot as assistant coach at Man City. Worth a try
As long as Wenger is still in charge at Arsenal, don’t expect anything good. Forget
Eighty-eight per cent of Arsenal Supporters Trust (AST) members who responded to a survey say they do not support Arsene Wenger remaining in charge of the club beyond the end of the season.
AST members held their annual general meeting in central London on Monday night, following Arsenal’s 2-1 loss away to Brighton on Sunday
Before the meeting, each member was individually surveyed and asked if they support Wenger remaining as manager of the club beyond the 2017/18 season.
Eighty-eight per cent of those who responded voted against Wenger being in charge for the 2018/19 campaign. Five per cent said they were undecided, while a further seven per cent believe Wenger himself should make the decision when he sees fit.
The AST has over 1,000 members with 450 of those participating in the survey.
AST spokesperson Nigel Phillips told Sky Sports News: “We just can’t go on like this. Maybe we are at a time change is coming and surely the board and owner must realise that. (Wenger) is like a desperate man clinging on.”
Representatives of the AST have been granted a private meeting with chief executive Ivan Gazidis on Sunday and they will present him with the results of their survey.
Arsenal have declined Sky Sports News’ request for a comment.
Only 85% voted Wenger out??? Wow just wow….
Do the AST hold much weight though?
Morning all..
Morning Rico and all. It’s just another twist of the screw isn’t it?
Apparently Bellerin has the hump at being dropped.
Morning Adam. I’m surprised the percentage wasn’t higher..
Bellerin wants out I suspect…
I imagine he does. He’s probably outraged at the appalling form of a team that he has been appalling for.
I saw a young right back playing for Crystal Palace against Man Utd last night. It was his second senior game and he did more quality work during the 90 minutes than I have seen from Hector for this entire season. The question is, has Bellerin peaked or is he just low on confidence?
The latter I’d say, he’s still young with so much to learn imo.
I see Debuchy is playing well now he’s left us. Says a lot eh…
How can you expect harmony in the dressing room and club when the most gutless player there is ozil getting£1.4 million a month on a 3 year contract which comes to over £50 million. Slice the boil at the top!!!!
The philosophy to put fit and able bodies in charge NO longer applies here as poor Arsene Wenger is a Shambles of a man who does not even seem to know that He needs to use a Handkerchief instead of his Hand,Arm or Coat.
IN THE NAME OF GOD SACK HIM (YES EVEN IF THAT’S GOING TO COST 10 MILLION).
Adam. I don’t even think it’s a confidence issue really, it’s more about having a balanced team. One which supports each other from back to front. Bellerin and Monreal/Kolasinac are left alone to do the defensive work. Chambers was too on Sunday and then we wonder why the player gets slated.
Same in midfield.
We have too many players who just want to get forward and be the hero imo, and I think we all know where that stems from.
Tissues are more healthy these days Drew, but I get your point. No need to shout with the caps though surely..
Rico. It’s an interesting debate across the whole team. Confidence v quality. I imagine that it is one of the questions that will be answered if and when a new manager comes in.
And yet sometimes a player looks tremendously promising and then just peaks early, never to push on. I imagine that a lot of it is in the head too, otherwise why would managers like Wenger be earning so much money? 🙂
Agree. It’ll be interesting to see what these players are really made of under a different manager.
I don’t really rate Jon Stones, but stick a organised midfield in front of him and a quality keeper behind him, he looks a £50 million player.. 😉
Rico. If the reports are true, Wenger is refusing to quit. It could just be another way of depressing Arsenal supporters of course. But, if it has substance, then surely it’s another thing that shows how deluded he is these days and you don’t want people who live in a different Universe in charge of your football club.
Have you read Lee Dixon’s comments?
Ouch!!
Adam. If he’s refusing to quit, he should be sacked. To me it’s simple.
Not read Lee Dixon’s comments, I take it they are scathing..
Rico. I agree. How can he not realise that Arsenal is not all about him or that he is obviously not the man to take his ‘project’ any further.
Check out Dixon’s stuff. It’s worth it, particularly the defensive views and the fact that Neville told him that they couldn’t “Give Mustafi away” before Wenger went in and paid over £30 million for him. Shocking stuff really.
I saw that about Mustafi Adam.
Funny enough, when we were linked to him Wath said a big fat no to him. Said he was too slow and not good enough. Guess he was right.
I think our whole defensive unit needs a lot of attention paid to it. Kos is finished at the top that’s for sure. If Mustafi had a top quality CB alongside him and better coaching, it could work imo.
And Bould trying to sort out Bellerin being ignored.
Morning Potter. Yes, that’s shocking, but not surprising is it?
If we lose to AC Milan I can only wonder what he will say after that. He has no exit strategy other than to piss everybody off.
Good Morning Fellas:
Two points from Lee Dixon that had me crackling up.
On S. Bould, “I said to Bouldie, ‘you’ve got to sort Bellerin out he’s doing my head in! Why is he making runs ahead of the forwards when there’s no ball on?’
Bouldie said ‘I’ve told him’. So i said ‘f****** tell him again!”
“Arsene went through a period of allowing him to do a little bit more. There was recognition in the press that Arsenal looked a bit more solid. Then it all went away.”
On Ashley Cole: “Tony Adams coached Ashley Cole into becoming the best left back in the world. It had nothing to do with the coaching from Arsene.”
That sums up what many have been saying, If you do too much as a coach, you will not be around AW too long. Small wonder that players are consistently regressing.
No great surprises there from Dixon Obi, I’m actually quite glad this stuff is getting out in the open because it’s giving Wenger no place to hide really.
If he refuses to go, then he MUST be sacked. In any other jobs he would have had his arse kicked out of the door in seconds.
Morning all.
If Wenger is refusing to go, and claiming he’s going to see out his contract, only more disasters can be foreseen! In adopting this intransigent stance he is displaying all the arrogance of a fallen idol. Seemingly he cannot and will not concede that he has to carry the ultimate Buck. It all stops at him. He cannot hide he has to accept responsibility and if he were an English m’lord he would resign and disappear to live the quiet life at his country hideaway! That particular argument has no traction at the first call….he’s not English and seemingly no gentleman!
I suspect he is actually taunting the board, daring them to sack him or put him on gardening leave because, he feels that he is absolutely bullet proof. More delusional thinking on his part.
Oh me oh my! When will this all end? He has become a vaudeville side show joke! But not very funny!
As much as I want us to win or get close to winning the Ropey cup a defeat on Thursday would drive a further nail into Wenger ‘coffin’. Would it make any difference to the old geezer? I doubt it! Sad, sad state of affairs.
Sunny here, on and off.
Afternoon all.
I think we are all being to pessimistic as our glorious leader has “vowed” to turn it all around !……………..you cant use words like that if you`re not serious………………………………and lets face it, he is seriously deluded !
Finally got to see a quack today after 10 days on life support !…………..she had the flu as well and 4th one of the year so she said !…………. but was still working !……………………a runny nose compared to man stuff !
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Just been driving and it seems sometime before 4 pm they are doing an interview with the Arsenal supporters trust on Talk Sport. Whether anything new comes out ? who knows..
From Lee`s comment, it`s apparent that still a % of AST`s are deluded………………………….may be they should do a “Delusional Test” for any new members and some older one`s having a re-test !………………………..if you have to do a re-test for your driving license, I see no reason why AST members should not have to sit a new test for being thick !
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If whatever dixon’s said is true , then AW deserves all the abuse he gets..not as if he cares anyway!
He is more interested in sociology than actual football matters..one if his infamous quotes “wisdom”? about football past and present..
“So what has changed since then? Not the “core of the game”, Wenger said at his press conference, but rather “the décor” of the job. The behaviour of players on the team bus, who have replaced communal sing-songs with each listening to his own music.
with Wenger there is always another level of analysis, a dip into one of his favourite hobbies, amateur sociology. The real difference in managing Arsenal from 1996-97 and 2017-18, Wenger said, was to do with the democratisation of knowledge and the decline in respect for expertise. “What has changed, is the society.”
We live in a society that is more demanding, that is more opinionated. The overall problem in Europe is that the respect for basic things has been lost, or is less strong that it was 20 years ago. As well you have positive things: people are better informed, people are better educated. People have more knowledge of the game. You have to think of balance.”
One arsene wenger
There is more suspicion now,,“You go to a doctor and he is more questioned than he was 20 years ago. 20 years ago, you go to a doctor, he says ‘you have that’, you say ‘Ok, I will go home and do that.’ Today, when you go to see the doctor, you have read before on the internet. And he has to convince you that you have not necessarily what you think you have. So that basically means that you are questioned more. In every single job, people are questioned more.”
Le prof..
I’ve been a manager for 30 years and have made 50,000 subs. I do not have to justify every decision I make. I stand up for it.’
Arsene who..
That is such a condescending attitude from Wenger. As far as football goes, the Internet certainly does give a voice to some pretty odd people but it also gives real fans a forum for debate. As for his doctor analogy, I have to say that hasn’t been my experience at all.
Arsene, we have heard ad nauseam how many games you have managed and how many substitutions you have made but what about the points column? What about the FA Cup that you so cherish? How about the shitty, embarrassing performance in the Carabao final and the points gap to Man City in the league? Are these not fair questions from fans of Arsenal? Or are we somehow lesser mortals who have come to the bizarre conclusion that the more money you spend, the worse the team has got? And if you really believe that you will win the PL or the CL next year, does this not clearly indicate that you are actually the problem and not even the remotest part of the solution? Just how many years would you like to stay? Because if the answer is one more and the reason is because you have never left a contract early then don’t you think that might be considered somewhat egotistical and selfish. The club is about the supporters and they, clearly, have had enough.
Well said Adam. .
Though those quotes I posted are from his previous prezzers, they equally and most certainly explain his most recent defiant ones of I don’t give a fuck of what you all think ..I do what I do..turned the world down.. respect my contact ..bla bla…
he allegedly told his coaching staff he intends to stay and see out his contract. .
He has to be sacked I guess..
His stance on most things displays his Gallic char My! N’est ce pas? Or is it just old fashioned arrogance? Hubris that’s what he’s caught I’m sure his doctor would tell him that but I’ll wager he would dispute it because he’d have read all about it on the inter net!!!
Time to go Arsene you’ve had yours and latterly have fcuked it up right royally. Time for us to get a new master get a new man!
Cloudy and cool now.
Tim Stillman talk told us nothing we didnt already know. They could have read Kev’s post earlier and saved the effort. Glad I was in the car and didn’t have to wait especially.
Afternoon Rico and All
The fans have spoken in my opinion,
bad results against the little clubs has
hit the regulars,this should give the backing
for the board to make a discision,more bad
results and it will be the end for Arsene.
No player wants to be barracked by his own
fans or wants to play in an empty stadium,
so for me the fans do matter,that will finish
Arsene,
Anyone heard from Usmanov?
Adam – “if we lose to Milan”? I like that bit of optimism!!
Paddywhack. Well, you never know. 🙂
Thursday v Milan is a case of how many goals we’ll get beaten by, not if we get beat…. 😉
What about the “trousers” statement, even Cantona’s “seagull and trawler” was not that bad. Any psychologists work out what le fraud meant
Afternoon Fred and all.
Is he still in a job? Pff! He shouldn’t be…
Adam – I wouldn’t put my house on it but my prediction is 3-0 but I hope I am wrong. Would never want AFC to lose.
Rico – reckon we will lose 3-0. Won’t make any difference to le fraud. After all 8- 2 did not shift him.
He had excuses back then though Paddy, saying that, he’ll soon find some for Thursday too..
Watched AC last week very organised
exact opposite to us.
Who isn’t?
Me neither Paddy. I would like him to leave with dignity but it seems he might be keen on avoiding that too and forcing the board’s hand. I really hope not though.
If he wants to leave with dignity, he should just come out and say he’s leaving in the summer instead of waffling on a load of rubbish about how he’s the right guy to improve us…
Evening Rico and the House
Anyone interested in the U18’s.
Tonight they are playing Q/F of youth Cup.
42 Mins Smith Rowe gives us the lead.
1min 2nd half stupid pen1-1
2 Mins 2nd half Smith Rowe makes it 2-1.
This goal another bender remember his first.
Evening Rick.
Running riot .
Sako, Balogun and Amaechi make it 5-1
I agree Rico. Can’t work the bloke out at all.
Hi Rick. Some good news then. Hope you’re well.
Me neither Adam, he’s weird..
At least Wenger should be gone by the time the players push through to the first team Rick, well those who make it..
Hi Rico
Not had much chance to post for sometime but have been reading your excellent posts in the early hours.
In a right old state arn’t we .
Thanks Rick, hope alls ok though…
Night Rick, Adam and all.
Hi Adam,
Things not so good at the moment.
There is a lot of illness in the family and I do not have enough hours in the day
to give them the help they deserve
But saying that tom orrow is another day and the sun will shine.
By the way finished 5-1
I All for now Night Rico and Adam
Arsene, PSG need YOU!!!!
Rick, hope things improve for you and your family…
Morning Rico and all.
Sorry to hear that Rick and hope things turn round for you.
All quiet on the Arsenal front.
Morning Brudder and all… shame these PSG rumours are just that eh?
Trophies over a profit for a lot of clubs…
Morning Adam, Lee and all.
Very quiet, make the most of it, tomorrow is not far away… lol
His future and hence, the immediate future of Arsenal is really the only topic. If we lost the AC Milan tie by 8-0 over 2 legs I have little doubt that he would still be spouting the same irrelevant nonsense while maintaining that he is the right man to turn things around. It’s depressing that he seems to be intent on staying for that final year. If things continue as they are I cannot imagine what the atmosphere and attendances will be like next season. I am hoping that the deafening silence from Ivan and the board is some indication that things are happening behind the scenes. But then Brudder will tell you that I’ve always been an optimist. 🙂
Ha ha, you an optimist is nearly as funny as suggesting I am. Although actually, on this occasion I am. I’m still convinced he’s going 🙂
8-0 over two legs sounds about right to me…
Rico. I am, honest. 🙂
I’ll believe you Adam…. 😉
“Half-full honest as the day is long” wasn’t that your old nickname Brudder??
It was Brudder. I’m flattered that you remember. 🙂
Hey Rick, you take care mate, great performance by Smith-Rowe.
Hi Rico.
Lata Rico ?
Afternoon All, not been on here for a few days, but some interesting comments.
Adam, your 9.59 on the 5th really goes to the heart of this shambles.
As a mate told me the other day, the silence from Arsenal could be a positive, maybe things are happening behind the scenes…
I’d exhale now Kev!
Lee ?
Hi Rico, all HH regulars.
Regular reader, sometimes commenter ?
I had a thought regarding the relationship between Kroenke and Wenger.
It may be wide of the mark and completely wrong, but I believe that Wenger played a significant role in helping Kroenke purchase the club, and acclimatise him to everything Arsenal.
I would imagine their relationship to be very warm and friendly, and it just might be the case that Wenger has done so much to help Kroenke, that it is emotionally impossible for Kroenke to sack Wenger.
I hope everyone is well (aside from the angst that Arsenal are putting us through!).
Hi Kev, Herb and all.
Herb, I think someone else shared your theory on here the other day. Can’t see it myself but who knows…
Afternoon HH I hate to say it but I told you so. Wenger ‘ll be here till the end of his contract and maybe longer. He’s best mate with kroenke and brought that moustache wearing twat into arsenal. There’s no way he ‘ll fire Wenger. I ‘ve seen his pressers that guy is so relaxed about his job. Yes he looks edgy when being pressed about the spate of bad results we ‘re racking up yet you can tell from his demeanor that that old fart knows something we don’t. The board and fans could scream bloody murder and burn effigies of lesenile but the buck stops with the syrup. Wenger has given him value for his money. Regardless of the results from now till the end of the season i still see Wenger at the helm next season and probably beyond. Don’t be surprised if sven,raul,huss and gazidis all tender their resignation letter. Wenger ‘ll go over their heads and ‘ll come out tops and that ‘ll result into a massive exodus of players and administrators alike. I could be wrong but nothing the board has done so far suggests a new man ‘ll be at the helm next season. Brace up gooners it’s gonna be a rough few years with Wenger. P.S I heard his dream is to break ferguscnt’s record. He’s got 4 more years to do that. Lol ???Lord God are we stuck with this old fool or what?
Rico that was me ???i shared it but you dismissed it. Lol now its looking legit don’t it?
Goonster, I just said I still don’t buy it….
Rico I don’t want to neither ma’am but everything points to him being here next season. Maybe kroenke ‘ll let him see out his contract and send him off but I just don’t see how we ‘ll be rid of him this season. It’s looking highly unlikely. All the ITKs I follow on Twitter had all gone from bullish to resignation. They went from hell yeah he’s leaving to a whimper. The silence alone says a lot. Am not overly concerned ma’am. I ‘ve made peace with myself regarding Wenger. If he’s still here after the season ends so be it if not i ‘ll celebrate but I don’t see it. Kroenke owe him big and won’t renegade on a promise. He ‘ll see out his contract and and maybe ride into the sunset with his millions!
Guess we’ll just need to wait and see Goonie…
Yes ma’am we ‘ll just wait and see. Just can’t take another season of this plus it ‘ll only get worse.
Well it certainly won’t get any better…
I was really banking on gazidis to push through but it’s looking ominous now Rico. Unless Josh can convince his father it’s time to move from Wenger. Our only hope now is Josh kroenke.
We don’t know he isn’t or hasn’t Goonie, I’m just waiting for the season to end or the club to tell us something definite.
It’s shaping out to be one of the worse seasons ever especially if the totts finally nabs a title which is looking more likely by the day. They could win the fa cup or surprise surprise go all the way to the final in the champions league!
I doubt the Totts will win the CL…
Wash your mouth out Goonie….CL winners, what a nightmare.
Evening Rico, Gooonie and all..
Evening Bt. I reckon Juve will fight back later..
Howdy BT just saying my fears out loud. While those scums are advancing and (even though I hate to admit) playing some of the best footie around we on the other hand have really been shit for a few seasons now. Like it or not BT it’s a knock out competition anything can happen. Porto Chelsea and inter have all won it when no one fancies them.
Hi Goonie, the thought did cross my mind while watching their last game against Juve, then i totally dismissed it….lol
Rico, could Arsene survive if the unthinkable was to happen?
It’s so unthinkable Bt, I’m not thinking about it… ?
Catch up tomorrow guys- off to cheer on Juve..lol
Night..
Night Rico,,,,,
The totts are out???? BT was right after all.
As my old grandpappy used to say , when you are at your lowest there’s always Tottenham to cheer you up.
New post up.
Morning…