If Wenger was to walk away, should we follow Liverpool's example?

I’m not suggesting for one minute he will or that I want him to but if he did:

Many fans would smile, many would be pretty cheesed off and some I am sure will wonder what on earth will happen now at our club.

I’m still of the opinion he needs to be given just one more summer, he’s finally admitted we lack maturity at the back and he’s given perhaps his strongest hint in a long time that he is ready to sign one or two experienced players to make us a lot stronger.

We all know that if that means bring in a player or two who has played in finals, have won medals and know what is like to stay calm when all around is going crazy, then that’s great. If the word ‘experience’ means buying a player who has had his day at the top and no-one else wants him, then that will just not be right.

But should he choose to walk away we need a hero to take his place. I don’t mean a big manager like Jose Mourinho, Gus Hiddink or anyone else in that kind of category, we need an Arsenal Hero to breeze in, ram what Arsenal Football Club is about down the players throats and drum into them what it SHOULD mean to play for a club like ours and what makes Arsenal what it is today.

Show them around the trophy room, let them see the gaps on the shelf, show them what happen in years gone by and let them know that right now they are not doing on the pitch, what it takes to be winners.

Liverpool Football Club have had many heroes over the years, they have the trophies to prove their success. Admittedly in the more recent years things have not been all rosy but they have still managed to do something which we have never been able to do and that’s win the Champions League. I think they have also bagged an FA Cup, both was under their then manager, Rafa Benitez.

But things got stale, they dropped out of the top four in the league, flirted for a few weeks around the relegation places this season under new manager Roy Hodgson and that is when they said enough was enough. Changes took place at board level; a new owner came in and with it a new manager in Kenny Dalglish.

As said before, Liverpool have had many heroes over the years, but not many could have touched their fans hearts as much as Kenny Dalglish did and still does today.

Smart move, the club may have been taken over by an American and they may have a few local born and bred players in their squad but what better to keep the history of their club alive and kicking than to appoint a manager who was once at the heart of all things good for the club.

He’s been like a breath of fresh air for them, he sold their so-called best player in Torres, replaced him with a younger, fitter Englishman and spent the money left from that one sale on Suarez. Ok he had to find an extra seven million but hey he lost one player and bought two for just seven million pounds. Not bad eh and both have hit the ground running and what did he do with Suarez, gave him the number 7 shirt!!

What he has also done is inject new enthusiasm into the players he inherited and now they are fifth in the league with a Champions League qualification place in their sight.

They have gone from a club in trouble to a club which no doubt every fan believes in again.

The moral of the story is, it’s not always a proven manager that makes a team gel, it just takes a man who has been there and done with ‘that team’ and can inject his attitude, committment and winning belief into the squad.

Arsenal Football Club have many many heroes of their own from over the years gone by, so if Wenger were to decide to leave, would we be better off looking to one of them to do for Arsenal what King Kenny has done for Liverpool?

And, writing this has not been easy, Liverpool are not my favourites as regulars here on HH know but sometimes, some things have to be said……

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gnarleygeorge9
gnarleygeorge9
15 years ago

What? And get Georgie Graham back 😀

John
John
15 years ago

gnarley, haha that’s exactly what I thought this was going to be about too!

hal
hal
15 years ago

Rico, if Wenger left, bringing George back is exactly what we should do. I know its a little simplistic, but can you imagine this team with some Graham-style discipline???

rsd
rsd
15 years ago

is that should or would we do a liverpool?
ie drop out champions league

with pat rice leaving is the perfect time for wenger to get a really good number to who bring some real energy back in to training session, a guardian journalist was told by the one of the coaches the youth player are just coasting in training. I really hope we dont promote from with in and get a wenger yes man.
Wenger really need to start deligating out some of the work load apparently according to the AST his actually sending out season ticket renewals.

hows you rico

Henrik
Henrik
15 years ago

Just a correction.. Dalglish sold 2 players and bought 2.. Babel and Torres out, and Suarez and Carroll in 🙂

stedared
stedared
15 years ago

We sold babel an paid nothin for either, best deal in football period. Lookin forward to next season I’m sure we will both be up there LFC an AFC, Wenger is a top boss but yeah you need the experience. When the untouchable’s played that season there was the youth an the experience of old players who had won cups in previous teams. I expect him to buy but more likely from Europe an above 26yrs with experience, 3 players like this in def mid an attack and it will prob be yours next year so goodluck an YNWA.

rsd
rsd
15 years ago

*two*

che
che
15 years ago

hypothetically if this were to happen, that means you need to take Woy Hodgson for half the season too… 🙂

however i wouldnt wish that upon you guys… that wish is saved up for when Woy replaces Fergie at the stupid manc’s… :p

Dave
Dave
15 years ago

See this article is a perfect example of why as a Liverpool fan, Arsenal will always be my second favorite team (although i will have a soft spot for QPR next season). Respect between the 2 clubs has always been top class.

Al
Al
15 years ago

In fact, the £7m was funded by the sale of Ryan Babel. Seems to have gone totally unnoticed amidst the January transfer window mayhem. So, net transfer is about £0.

GH
GH
15 years ago

Good article… Liverpool also sold Ryan Babel for about 7 million so they pretty much didn’t spend a penny.

Sc...
Sc...
15 years ago

KKD.

hal
hal
15 years ago

Yeah I know that – although the board ‘as is’ are really only of nominal importance with the new regime.

The biggest problem is the Arsenal fans. Graham gets tarred with a brush that he was boring. This is true of the last 3 years of his regime (in his defence during those 3 years he won the cup double and a european trophy). However it is manifest rubbish when taking account of his reign overall. From 1987 to 1991, Arsenal played the most exciting football I have ever seen from an Arsenal side – at least on a par with anything that Arsene Wenger produced. And dont just take my word for it – read Hornby’s fever pitch, where he recants that ‘4s, 5s and even 6s became commonplace at Highbury’. It really was breathtaking stuff after the Don Howe years.

George Graham did not build the club from nothing, but he dragged it into modern times. He was an intelligent and articulate manager, at least as much as our current porfessor, and had an edge of steel to boot. Yes he did loose the plot towards the end (but in fairness no more so than Arsene, and his decline did not last a painful 6 years), but Wenger could not have succeeded if it was not for Grahams team. He left the core of a squad of winners. Arsene and Rioch just needed to reinstall the flare that was cast aside after 1992. I honestly thing that, on the playing side his legacy was far stronger than what Arsene will leave behind.

Time will tell I suppose

albey
albey
15 years ago

What ex Arsenal players are now top class managers thats your problem at Arsenal. Tony Adams could be your answer ex player great player been learning coaching abroad he is the only one that comes to mind but as a liverpool fan I no that we should have brought King Kenny back years ago and we would never have slipped to the depths we did but he is back now .I watch Arsenal regular on tv and as an out sider looking in wengers nervousness is going on to the pitch to the players when they look across for guidance he is walking up and down the touch line ringing his hands or kicking bottles of water and I believe it affects your players confidence and also I think you need a forward coach because Arsenal should be beating teams for fun instead they miss chance after chance in front of goal passing instead of shooting and this must all be down to your coaching .By the way as a liverpool fan I dont hate Arsenal I quite enjoy watching there brand of football till the end product but good luck with your team for next season gooners

rsd
rsd
15 years ago

if arsenal fans believe that re defense rico then they are stupid 2001-04
Jens
lauren toure sol cole

hal
hal
15 years ago

thanks Rico. I think it was more than just the defence though. It was the expectation of the players that they not just could, but would win things. Dont forget they got to the cup winners cup final under Stewart Huston while the club was effectively in managerless limbo. I really dont feel that the current players have the same fire in their bellies, and sadly I think that comes from the manager who appears to be floundering a bit.

Anyway, Im off to watch the DVD of the 1994 cup winners cup final to feed my nostalgia. Yes it was probably the game that gave Georges team their definitive ‘boring’ tag, but what a feeling it was to win that trophy. Hope the boss doesn’t notice!!!

Brian Jones
Brian Jones
15 years ago

“…not always a proven manager that makes a team gel.”

What made it easier for us (Liverpool) is that Dalglish is a proven manager. As manager, three league titles with Liverpool, then with Blackburn. Few have done this. Only Ferguson, Wenger, Dalglish and the Chelsea mafia have won the Premiership.

Maybe Wenger will be moved to actually buy one or two ‘top-top’ players this closed season?

arsenal fan
arsenal fan
15 years ago

Benzema is the next Henry
1.both french
2.got talent
3.proven goalscorers
4.both made a wrong decision
henry went to italy n benzema went to spain
5.wenger bought henry to arsenal n now i do hope that
wenger brings in benzema
Hope im correct with bendtner out

rsd
rsd
15 years ago

i’m good thanks

how are the animals?

trying to put my finger on what the squad actually needs
i think the first team on their day have been a match and even better than everyone in eurpoe this season, the fringe i think they are good enough but lacking desire, a new number two could change that.

DaveWestAus
DaveWestAus
15 years ago

I have always liked the ‘Gunners’,and followed LFC to a number of match’s in the 60’s.There are’n’t too many clubs I dislike but I could be an Arsenal fan if not for LFC! The Bergkamp(Dennis Nikolaas Maria),era was fantastic!The club has a great history!

arsenal fan
arsenal fan
15 years ago

To All the pool fans aswell like to watch them play
heard they are getting a kitty of 100mil to spend with the new owners and the kit deal they have had.
They are going to be up there with us next season

afriX
afriX
15 years ago

you guys can’t be serious? George “Mr Bungs” Graham to a club that’s tightfisted on money? Nostalgia gone wrong if you ask me.

wheres owen gone
wheres owen gone
15 years ago

Hi
Again as a liverpool supporter, I am on 9 that KK is back. Again to echo the previous LFC fans I (we) hold no anomosity to Arsenal, but rather enjoy the football you play. The problem for you guys may be or not be AW thats not for me to decide but you guys.
Its up front where you are failing season after season. You play some great football until in and around the box, when everything stops because the players want to walk the ball into the net by over elaborating. You need a top class striker who is direct and no nonsence. Lots have been argued about whether the defence is or isnt good enough, My answer is you need 2 experienced players in the middle (alla Keon and Adams) The rest is working fine.

ste
ste
15 years ago

Im sure you wouldn’t want George Graham back, hed turn Arsenal back into the worlds biggest Hoofers of the ball as in the 80’s and 90’s….still it hasn’t done Man ure, the worlds most overrated and lucky team any harm as the pox another title by default of others allowing them, flopping and rolling over.
Arsenal do need a change though, it’s gone stale with Wenger, why not take a look at that up and coming manager dubbed the ‘New Mourinho’, or Frank Rijkarrd, who this Liverpool fan wanted at Liverpool….before Kenny came back, who will win the title next season with Liverpool.

Kev
Kev
15 years ago

I think Arsenal would benfit from a player like Alonso, hope he comes back to Liverpool, but I’m sure he would make a vast difference. That & a clinical finisher like Henry.

rsd
rsd
15 years ago

looks like the benzema transfer might run all summer
And hillwood would never have GG back due to the bungs

dev
dev
15 years ago

bring back GG!!!!!!!!!!!

rsd
rsd
15 years ago

Sad to hear that rico mine had to go last year too

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Morning all.good read rico.i’ve got massive respect for l.pool.Torres sulked for months but they sold him and they actually got better.i also feel the abscence of Gerrard has allowed the likes of maxi/meireles/lucas the freedom to express themselves on the pitch.whether that can be applied to cesc i don’t know…

albey
albey
15 years ago

Rico your players no how to win the problem is your defensive side to your game. Fantastic at times going forward but always look to leak goals at the back but your players can do it as your team proved against the mancs they need to play that way every game not all out attacking football not in the EPL it is not like spain were they allow barca to play here they are in your face the sooner Mr Wenger relises this the better your chances of wining the league and as a Liverpool fan if we cant win the league I would rather Arsenal did we both try and play football . One last thing I remember in the 90s when manure were just like Arsenal are today knocking on the door but trip up at the last hurdle they brought in kean ince pallester bruce and the rest is history so your not that far away just a few signings from being champions now for my club we are abit behind your club at the moment but we will get there under King Kenny .

Stef
Stef
15 years ago

Morning Rico, GG is definitely out, the board don’t trust neither will some of the player.

Only Tony Adams can be our new manager if comes to that if not maybe to join in as second man…

Stef
Stef
15 years ago

players*

Kev
Kev
15 years ago

Nice 1 rico. You are right about opposition fans. Heard some sh*te from spuds fans when they got CL last year & when we were in the relegation zone. I empithise with your plight against them.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Rico if i were a city fan i’d be worried if they were not interested.who wouldn’t want cesc?plus i believe there is no way we would sell cesc to a club in England.

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
15 years ago

Good Morning
Good Post. I’m agree with it.
The Liverpool key is now Meireles and Suarez. Here is the change on the pitch; on the bench, the revolution of mentallity and level of confidence.
GG is past. We are in the XXI century. The football wasn’t stop since twenty years ago. New tactics, new mentallity, new players, new managers, everything was changing. We must be in this wave not in the past one.

Northern Gooner
Northern Gooner
15 years ago

for all that want GG back, do you remember his last buys? Criss Kiwomya, Eddie McGoldrick, Faxe Jensen, Pål Lydersen and all the fantastic talent he prodused like David Hillier, Ian Selly, Stewe Morrow. And Not to mention the fantastic center backs like Colin Pates and handy Andy Linnighan. Yes those were the days of sublime football and tropies every year (apart from the downfall and not winning the league after 91…

Lee
Lee
15 years ago

Morning, Bould would do for me!

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

The FFP rules begin their implementation on June 1st.of the big clubs Arsenal,Bayern-have recorded profits for 18 years in a row,juventus and Madrid are in the clear.city,mancs,barca and chavs are in deep sh*t.

oliver
oliver
15 years ago

morning rico, first liverpool forum i have ever been on. interesting take, the thing that strikes me – already pointed out by several gooners and scousers – is that in addition to being an absolute legend, kenny returned with tons of managerial experience. managed liverpool during one of the most difficult periods in the club’s history, is the only manager not named ferguson/wenger/mourinho/ancelotti to win the prem. he always had the credentials and is liverpool through and through – in short, the right man at the right time…

here at arsenal, we have no such candidate. we all know graham won’t be coming back. we have arsenal legends such as thierry, tony and db, but nobody is ready for this job. probably the closest is bouldy, but it is huge step from coaching the kids up to running first-team affairs. we have nobody similar ready to take over yet…with no disrespect, the liverpool job was too big for woy – and i think many scousers knew it when he was appointed. should we try and bring an “arsenal legend” in to take over from arsene in the next year or two, i can see us falling into a similar trap.

GD
GD
15 years ago

Ok who???

Liverpool brought Dalgliesh back – who already had (albeit a while back) huge managerial experience.

Who have we got thats a legend AND has the experience?

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
15 years ago

I share with you this weel written article:
The adventure Guardiola
by Santiago Segurola (newspaer Marca-Madrid)
Three years ago began the adventure of Guardiola on Barcelona. Came from doubt, with president Joan Laporta, and subject to a motion of censure that almost cost him his job. 62% of members voted for the impeachment of the president, but it required a majority of more than 66%. That plebiscite Laporta has placed a desperate situation, rejected by his supporters and dependent on a team that had missed the previous season. Barca finished the League in 2007/08 to 18 points from Real Madrid, with a humiliating defeat at the Bernabeu 4-1. That team seemed extraordinary at first sight. It was very similar to the current and which won the Champions League in 2006. Played, for example, Ronaldinho, Deco, Eto’o, Messi, Henry, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Valdes, Abidal, Touré Yaya and Zambrotta. Impressed by names, but Barca was a ruin. Several of those players did not take their profession seriously. It was a team with no ambition, more concerned with the good life than football. The collapse of Barca invited to think of a painful cycle. Most of the press, and many Directors considered that the solution was Mourinho. The Portuguese coach seemed a good solution to restore the prestige and good results to a team shattered. The only alternative to Mourinho was Pep Guardiola, who represented the best values ​​of the famous dream team of Johan Cruyff in the 90s. Guardiola was the brains of that team, a product of Barca’s cantera, born in the heart of Catalonia, in the small town of Santpedor. No player better represented the ideals that cruyffiano Guardiola. Its position in midfield represented something more than an extension of the coach on the field: Guardiola was more than cruyffista Cruyff. Passionate, unyielding supporter of Barça, always on the boil, with some strong ideas about the role of Barca, Guardiola was imposed to Mourinho by the enormous influence of Johan Cruyff on Laporta. However, most analysts pointed out as a historic mistake that decision. Guardiola had only one year of experience – had driven the Barca B, the third division – and had to deal with a demoralized team. The general manager of Real Madrid, José Ángel Sánchez, said the appointment of Guardiola as coach would be catastrophic for the club. Three years later the club won nine trophies, including three league titles, missing a spot in the league at the moment, one Champions League, a World Cup and the club. In less than three weeks reissue at Wembley, the Rome final in 2009, against Manchester. Contrary to most forecasts, Guardiola has transported the boat to the golden age, a season of unforgettable titles and admiration in the football world. With a countercultural style – passing, patience, possession and dominance of cantera players – the club perfectly reflects the obsessive mentality of their coach, a man who deepened all the ideas that Cruyff neglected, especially chapter defensive. The effect of Barca has been great. Their influence is notable in the Spanish champions of Europe and the world. Seven players from Barca played the World Cup final in Johannesburg. But the crown jewel is the formidable Messi, the player who takes a great team in a monumental. Guardiola realized very early the importance of Messi. Just so we understand your need to sell Ronaldinho to AC Milan and Deco to Chelsea, and later the controversial transfer of Eto’o or twitching with Ibrahimovic. Guardiola wanted a team around Messi and trained players at the club since childhood. The game and the results have given him reason. The team became the main reference point in world football, a smart team, which generates fear in their opponents. Even the luxurious Real Madrid, Mourinho found himself intimidated by the prestige of Barca. However, this season has caused some alarm, injuries have plagued players and do not hide the weariness of three grueling seasons. Recent months have shown some weaknesses that Barca can not allow the next season. Real Madrid will be more powerful and ready to end the hegemony of the current Spanish champions. Guardiola knows he has work. His team is very good but vulnerable. You’ll have to go to market and strengthen yourself with a good number of players to keep the upper hand. There will be an easy task. The method of Barca is so unique that even the best players in the world have difficulties in adapting to the demands of Guardiola.

patrick
patrick
15 years ago

Wenger is a bit of a idiot, all the years he’s been here and he didn’t learn anything new.. Arsenal should just try get Dalglish!! he’s obviously a far better manager that ACTUALLY WANTS TO SPEND MONEY!!Hell they’re even playing better football than Arsenal right now with attack and defense and scoring bucket loads..If not him maybe take a chance on Dennis Bergkamp.

oliver
oliver
15 years ago

we could, but i would argue that arsene has made this job far bigger than it was when he first arrived.

i think it would be too big for bouldy right now – if he walked into it in the next season or two. if he progresses to primary assistant, than he could certainly be ready in a few years. much will also depend upon where the team is and what circumstances arsene departs under…

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Great article JM.

Lee
Lee
15 years ago

WATH, same with squill and kos, could of brought a proven CB with the dough spent on them (although I think kos will be ok)We need not to fck about trying to penny pinch and also get the deals done quickly….be nice to show the fans our intent?

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

WATH of course they’ll find a way but credit to UEFA for trying to do something.

Lee
Lee
15 years ago

Rico, you missed your appointment!!

Lee
Lee
15 years ago

WATH, he played loads more than he was expected to in his first season and on the whole has been ok….it’s getting to the time of the year to remove Newsnow from favourites!

Lee
Lee
15 years ago

linked with all and sundry…I was reading your banter from last night re season tickets…I’m in the same boat as you, I’ve rented mine out to a mate….you watch now….Buffon, Cahill,sakho,hazard and benzema all signed lively!! I’ve the shidas touch… 🙂 🙂 🙂

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
15 years ago

The article is very well written.
Rondon? Is interesting but isn’t expensive?
Suarez were arround 12 millions, rigth?
From a sport daily newspaper
Emboldened by the presence in the Champions League, Roberto Mancini wants to build a formidable team for next season. Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Cesc Fabregas are the targets most vocal – and expensive – the Italian coach.
“If Zlatan want to come to the City, immediately find a place for him”, said Mancini.
To rescue Arsenal’s Spanish midfielder, the City may proceed with a proposal more than 55 million

Lee
Lee
15 years ago

JM, suarez was more than £20m, I’m pretty sure…

Stef
Stef
15 years ago

Koscielny was better defender then Djourou this season more consistent and making less blunders, but we will see how will they next season Vermaelen was our best defender.

Regarding Steve Bould I think he should first replace Pat Rice before we consider him as a Wenger replacement.
I’ll still like to see Adams more then any other plus he has the experience and the knowledge to be a manager.

Stef
Stef
15 years ago

Lee I think u r right, re Suarez.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Afternoon.
Had a look this morning. It was like a Harry Enfield Scousers sketch on here. A right old London/Liverpool love-in.
Rondon? Sounds about right for us. Hope he’s more Henry than Kaba Diawara.
Rico, had two fillings myself today. Lovely Swedish lady dentist.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Levante vs Barcelona tonight. Wonder if Wellington Silva will get a run out?

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Whilst on the loanees, i’d be delighted to see Henri Lansbury in the squad Saturday. Can he be any worse than some of the currant 1st teamers? In fact i imagine he’d be a darn sight better than many.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Ha ha ha. Wath as i typed that i just KNEW what was coming back. No mate, nothing about posts or anything of that nature mate. But she is very nice…..

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Well Wath mate, i kinda agree with ya. Drogba would do for me as well, even if it’s Benzema as top of my wish list [sorry KT]. But the Drog would be massive for us.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Wath i was very brave, i kept my eyes closed throughout.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

That’s it Wath, it seems so obvious to me. I know his wages would be on the large side, but a big signing-on fee a la Campbell, could solve that.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

What do you make of all this Cesc to City stuff, nonsense or money talks?

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Ha ha ha Wath, no she wasn’t in the Jordan dept. But she was very gentle with me, i was putty in her hands…….

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Well Liverpool did very well out of flogging Torres, Arsenal just have to do the same, and like Liverpool spend it all…

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Now that’s the kinda wife for me, hehe. All i get is nag nag nag.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Btw, Hi Rico.
Wath that’s 2 of the 3 on my wish list. But Arsenal never buy the players i hope they will. Well to be fair Bergkamp & Platt were amazing signings back in ’95.

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
15 years ago

yes, I want to write 22 not 12
how we evaluate a player?
For example, what is my market value? 5 million? 10 million? 12 Millions? 18 million? 🙂
I’d like to know

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Rico, ha ha ha. I hope it wasn’t a rugby ball, lol

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Yes Wath, Bergkamp and Campbell, the best two transfers ever.
See ya mate.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

I’ll tell ya what Rico, i don’t know how you think up posts every day. I’ve been thinking a few ideas over and i keep getting writers block. How do you do it?

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Apparantly Lazio have bid £9million for Chamakh…
Not nearly enough me thinks.

jew
jew
15 years ago

Liverpool will be frigtening next season, no way we will finish over them with Wenger at the helm

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Rico, i did hear a rumour that Marseilles were after him, 15 million was mentioned, not sure if they meant Euros or Sterling?

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Ha ha Rico. Yeah i know what you mean, it doesn’t phase me, i just want to do something half decent. I’ve got some ideas in the pipeline……

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Well i kinda agree with you Rico, i found it strange that once RVP was fit that his confidence just evaporated. I wouldn’t let him go unless AFC got an offer they couldn’t refuse.
Bendtner out and for me Vela as well, he’s just too lightweight.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

I’m gonna sit down and try a few things on paper tonight. We’ll see how it goes, and then i’ll send it to the sub-editor/editor for her expert eye.

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

this is wengers biggest test yet…

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Rico, i’m offski now, i’ll see ya later, ta ta.

Stef
Stef
15 years ago

Guys did u see this http://www.arsenal.com/usa/news/news-archive/golden-goals-no-41-wright-v-everton

What an amazing goal, I’ve never seen anything like that.

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
15 years ago

In my old gold times, i’ve scored a few goals like Ian Wright 🙂

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Everyone having an early night?

Will
Will
15 years ago

Sorry I have not been around guys, finding it hard to get up enthusiasm for the team at the mo.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Evening chaps, just been reading aclf, they’re at each others throats over there and that’s a pro-AW blog. Just goes to show how pissed off everyone is. Fellow Gooners at each others throats. Not good.
Wath, fancy talking about erections???

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

whats not good is gooners resorting to want spurs to get something from the city game to stop city catching us..

its turned into a nightmare

evening

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Coquelin & Sunu didn’t play for Lorient, Wellington Silva didn’t play for Levante. Waste of time them being there if they aren’t gonna play!

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Whats up with erections on this blog?

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Wath, that Swedish dentist, man she had a gentle touch mate.
It’s all borne out of frustration mate. We’re all so pissed off because we’re so bloody close to the Promised Land.
Does JJ wear spandex i wonder??????

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

the only thing i think of when i see the word erection is bendtner..

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

I don’t like discussing rumours but a benzema/rvp partnership gives you a sort of henry/bergkamp feeling…

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Hi JJ/KT.
Yeah Wath you gotta wonder about the true value of some of these loans. For every Miyaichi there’s a Sunn, Wellington and a Galindo [ although he’s been injured ].

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

You need help jj…

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

no amount of spandex, pvc, or pink frilly knickers is going to dress his situation up..

wengers got nothing else to say..its all been said and hes looked a plum

actions speak louder than words this time..

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

bendnters has a huge cock.. lol..

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Well JJ hopefully this summer we’ll finally see some action. Although KT has a good point about speculation, it’s mostly just a wind-up and a newspapers ploy to sell copy.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Pace and skill at its climay Wath.we have enough creativity,we need more pace.it is said that most goals are scored seconds after winning possession.3/4 passes with that front 4 we go from a Szczesny save to a Benzema tap in.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

ha ha ha Wath, the penny just dropped. Yes Bendtner is a bit of a big one….

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

So Kt are you saying Arsenal should revert to a more direct style [no long ball i hasten to add] and less of the over-indulgent passing?

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Wenger looks older than red nose nowadays.surely he wouldn’t let stress take toll on his health due to something he can easily resolve?of all big teams in Europe we made the highest profit of 56 mil with Bayern 2nd with 18 mil.surely Arsene,spend it…

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

i remember a few years back destroying Leeds at Elland Road a couple of times. Arsenal’s couner-attacking was leathal, what happened to that team Arsene? I wanna know??

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

AK both styles have their merit.when facing a parked bus the direct approach may not work and it would most likely leave us open to a counter.tiki taka opens up teams but we miss so many chances.its also good when you’re protecting a lead since the opposition gets tired.what i want though is that when we win the ball we should go for the kill before they reorganise.

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

we only have one style
tika tika
dont work without a messi to finish it off and it dont work over 38 pl games if you cant do the basics like set pieces

we have plan b strikers but the footballs still tika taka so they have no affect..

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Maybe i’m going out on a limb here, but has our style change coincided with the team being built around Fabregas? Not that i’m blaming him, because only 3 or 4 years ago Cesc inspired AFC to a wonderfull win at The Slum. Adebayor got a great goal that day…

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

counter attacking only works if you can defend first
we dont counter cos we cant defend..

we dont score from set pieces either..

so we rely on build up play everytime..and its been worked out..

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Wath is a neddle similar to a kook???

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

KT, i know you love your european footie, and fair play to you. But i wonder if Wenger has this obsession with the CL and he’s building a team more with an eye to winning in europe rather than in the domestic competitions???

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Bayern and Schalke have agreed an €18mil fee for Neur that could rise to €32mil depending on appearances,trophies and other bonuses.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

AK he is definitely obsessed to win the CL.he has elevated us to being among the top clubs in Europe with a brand new stadium.he has won trophies domestically but none in Europe.he is desperate to do that.he must be aspiring to make us reach the heights of the madrids/pools/milans of Europe.red nose also said the same thing recently.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Well maybe KT he has to find a balance between a team that wins domestically and in europe. That could mean signing some players, maybe 2 or 3, with the domestic game in mind whilst keeping a broadly european squad. I recall that George Graham would always bring Paul Davis into the team on european nights, but Davis would often not feature in the more robust domestic fixtures.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Wath i think you need a ‘balanced squad’ containing players who can excell in both forms, but with the odd specialist, like a Samba type for example, for those interesting visits to the likes of Stoke, Birmingham and Blackburn.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

I keep on seeing some Arsenal fans going on about this UEFA Fair Play thing they’re supposed to be bringing in. But do any of us really believe that UEFA are going to eject Real Madrid, Barcelona, ManUtd, Chelsea, ManCity, Milan etc etc, out of the Champions Lge. Yeah I’m sure if the sponors of the CL threaten to pull out that UEFA will go with it. I smell a pile of bullshit…

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

AK i’ll answer you with an example from the mancs.J.S.Park rarely plays against lower league opposition instead Nani gets the nod.However,in big league and CL games fitness permitting he always starts.he is the ultimate tactical player for red nose.i remember when the mancs destroyed Milan last season he marked pirlo out of the game but at the same time he was very influential going forward.when the mancs play 4-4-2 and they meet a team with 3 CMs he tucks in off the wing to form a midfield 3.he can also cover in fullback position very well.he is the ultimate key in Fergie’s plan.a very underrated player.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Yeah mate, our build-up is so slow, it’s embarrising. By the time we’ve reached the oppositions box via 300 passes they’ve got 10 men parked behind the bus.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Wath, he was one of my favourite players. Met him a couple of times as well, a really nice guy. Mind you i never mentioned boxes to him…..

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

KT, Graham was the master at using certain players for specific jobs. David Hillier wasn’t the greatest, but George recognised he could do a marking job and Hillier was often given the task of marking the oppositions danger man, a task he rarely failed to do.
Mind ypou he did like a suitcase as well, so i’ve been told…

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

AK madrid and milan are fine according to the FFP rules.for the next 3 years a maximum of £45 mil loss is allowed.3 years after that it will go down to £30mil.expulsions from the CL will only begin in 2014-2015 season.if a club however is showing reasonable progress despite not achieving the targets they’ll be allowed to compete.those rules were unanimously approved by 662 clubs in 53 countries.Abrahamovic,Galliani (Milan C.E.O) and Moratti (Inter) were huge supporters of it.Barca’s Sandro Rosell has even cut down the spending in anticipation of these rules.Aw may not be perfect but he saw this coming from a mile away.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Yeah i remember Wath, wasn’t it Man Utd at home about ’82, i think we lost but he was like a man transformed. I used to love his partnership with Stevie Williams, a real hard nut.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

KT, i hope your right mate, but i can never see UEFA chucking any of the ‘Big Boys’ out of the CL. They simply haven’t the balls to do it. All the same i’d love to be proved wrong.

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
15 years ago

Denilson is ready for sunday ?

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Ha ha, yes mate very good… I think your right, it was about ’84, didn’t Remi Moses go around kicking everything that moved and Norman Whiteside got the winner. But what stuck in my mind was how Davis got stuck in.
Loved Williams, a real tough cookie, reckon he’d be bollocking a few if he was in the dressing room now.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

I saw Paul Davis in his debut, it was at The Slum, about 1980 i think?

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
15 years ago

Earthquake in south of Spain. At least 10 dead … :-(((

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

If Denilson plays then, well, i don’t know, it’s just a joke. Surely Wenger isn’t that stupid or stubborn?

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Jm, how far away from it are you?

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

UEFA has its reputation on the line AK.the champions league is king at the moment.a super league cannot be formed in the near future due to this.Recession hit football hard and many clubs are realising it.the FFP rules are not a punishment and deep down the clubs and their owners know they are the right thing for football.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Lorca, in Murcia…

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Time will tell KT, i hope your optimism isn’t misplaced, but football does need some kind of break to it’s unsustainable wage inflation, and rocketing costs.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Where’s Lee, i wanted to tell him about the fantastic curry i had this evening……

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
15 years ago

The supporters must continue to prepare for an attack of nerves, heart attacks, protests, whistles, sorrow, discontents to the ultimate joy!
We must have League until the end!
So, give another opportunity to Almunia, Denilson and so on.
How far? I’m in Portugal

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

The FFP will not affect wages directly but will introduce a ‘soft salary cap’ as it will sieve out the cash that has not been earned by a club.this will also affect transfer fees.the rules may not be perfect but are a step in the right direction.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

League, about 3rd game of the season, not sure if there was a sending off, think it was the season we had John Cartwright as Coach. I always wondered if he had a positivve effect on Davo in that respect?

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
15 years ago

I’m going to bed
see you tomorrow

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

Goodnight JM.

allezkev
allezkev
15 years ago

That’s it. I’m off to put some Swedish toothpaste on my Swedish toothbrush. Goodnight Gooners

Merlin96
Merlin96
15 years ago

I think we will first appoint Owen Coyle, Arsenal “Roy Hodgson”…..:D

Then midweek thru the season in the relegation zone…..David Dein returns to find us another “Arsene Wenegr”…lol