Going on from yesterday’s article:
The major television deals had been struck, Abramovich and the Sheikh of Manchester City were bringing new meaning to the word profligacy, David Dein had departed and winning things was fast becoming a thing of the past for Arsenal.
In the meantime many of us scrape together our excessive season ticket money, often having to forgo other things, because we want (need) to be at the ground to watch the games, to participate, feel part of it and to hopefully see Wenger once again assemble a team that can win a trophy.
The stadium is magnificent, if slightly corporate, the pitch is immaculate with none of the mud baths that you used to see at grounds many years ago, but the players are mainly mercenaries. Yes, they are mercenaries who will today pledge their love for the club that we also love, only to leave for more money tomorrow.
Some time later will follow a newspaper article, full of recriminations against a manager that spotted them playing at another team, probably in another country, bought them and gave them a chance at Arsenal, while making them millionaires. But, as fans, we don’t get that option do we? We pay through the nose and accept what is dished up. Abramovich isn’t going to ring us and offer us riches to watch Chelsea instead, even though they have plenty of spare seats.
We have come to painfully realise that our loyalty is not shared by the players, even those we naively thought they felt like us about Arsenal. And it is certainly painful. This has resulted in the emotional attachment and by definition, the commitment of many of us being seriously diluted and the money and greed have combined to drive a wedge between the supporters and the players.
I see this as a dangerous thing for Arsenal who might think that the waiting lists for season tickets is their insurance for the future. But will the fans who come after us be as loyal? That can only answered in the fullness of time.
Now Robin seems to want out because Stan Kroenke won’t countenance the level of spending that Robin equates with ambition. He wants world-class players to be signed as he is now a world-class player (for last season anyway). And of course, being such, he requires that the club doesn’t sign players like he was when he first came, but established stars, presumably like they have at Man City.
I do wonder how long a club like Man City would have put up with van Persie if they were faced with the same legal and disciplinary baggage that he bought to Arsenal. Or if a twat like Mancini would have stuck by a player with an injury record like his, when he only needs to go blubbering, cap in hand, to the Sheikh for an expensive (and better?) replacement. But it doesn’t really matter now. Van Persie, like so many before him, has outgrown Arsenal. Now all that is left, barring a humiliating climb-down from him, is the fee we get.
We will still be here next season, some in body, many, many more in spirit, but van Persie will probably be somewhere else, getting paid the sort of money that the press and his agent have told him he is entitled to. He will be presumably, playing with world-class players for a club that shows the ambition that Arsenal can’t match. He will be winning the trophies that Arsenal can’t afford to buy and will pause only to give an interview that heaps more pain on Arsenal fans and exhibits a lack of respect for Arsene Wenger that is epic in its insensitivity.
All for more money of course. World-class players do nothing for nothing. It’s their right you see – as world-class players. All the best wife-beaters, perverts and drunkards say so on the radio and in the press every day.
So, I think the fan’s relationship with the club is constantly evolving, though whether it will ever have the power to change anything would depend on the fans getting together and acting en masse. Red & White Holdings, either through expediency or inclination, seem to recognise the value of having the fans onside, as they mentioned in their recent press release. It is also tempting to suggest that people like Peter Hill-Wood, with his “Let them eat cake” attitude does not feel the need to acknowledge or nurture the fan’s support. In fact I was waiting for his “They’ve never had it so good” shtick, but I do believe we have already had that one.
I have heard many people say that the fans are the club. This is probably true as I see the owners as the financial custodians. But the relationship is a tricky one and to be successful over a long period the two need to work together. The owners need to balance the books while the fans need to balance their expectations with reality. Conflict between the two is rarely productive.
When Ferguson is finally carried feet-first out of Old Trafford, we will watch with interest to see how successful the new manager is, because if things don’t go well it will be that strange, freaky family, the Glazers, who the fans will turn on in greater numbers. Liverpool fans drove Hicks and Gillette screaming from Anfield so John Henry, who seems to have a plan, could take the reins and have a go. Though if part of the grand scheme was to give Dalglish an open cheque book, then that one will certainly need re-thinking. And of course there is our own man-of-mystery, Silent Stan Kroenke.
Who really knows what Stan’s plan is, or if he even has one? Ivan Gazidis seems to me to understand the importance of the fans to the club, but his track record of actually making the signings that we need is hardly convincing is it? I mean, he’s not an operator like DD is he? – despite PHW seemingly trying to erase Dein’s vast contributions to Arsenal’s success from the history books by speaking of him in the most demeaning fashion at every opportunity. If it wasn’t for the presence of Hill-Wood, could Dein come back? Or has too much money flowed under the bridge into various bank accounts or offshore holdings?
One thing is sure. We will be seen to be unreasonable in our demands and will also be the last to know anything.
As Arsenal supporters, we crave a successful team, but there is no distinction in that. I believe that the rise of the billionaire clubs has changed the outlook for many of us. Yes, of course I would ideally like Arsenal to retain those well-run, ethical and responsible values that the club are admired for, but I must admit that I am heartily sick of being pillaged every year by that idiot Mancini and his “I want what he’s got and I want it now” values. We are, by nature and history, a very traditional and well-run, respected, club but, on the other hand, I do acknowledge that we have robbed Man City blind over the past few years. I mean, over £40 million for Kolo and Adebayor?
So, are we prepared to throw our values out of the window to be competitive?
Should we take the Oligarch’s billions? Is there any real difference between being owned by Kroenke or Usmanov? Or must everything be sacrificed on the alter of success? It is your ideas that need to be heard on these matters.
What I will say is that my stance has changed over the past few years as I have seen football and Arsenal change and I am toppling over the fence into the “If you can’t beat ’em” camp. I think I can see a future where we maintain a degree of the dignity that Chelsea and Man City have lost, (if they ever had it in the first place), yet still be competitive. At the moment though I can only see this happening under Wenger.
With a new manager, all bets are off and a new set of parameters comes into play. My fear is that we will not be financially flush while Kroenke is still the owner and perhaps his Arsenal future is linked to Wenger’s stewardship and economic prudence. After all, he is a businessman, not a fan (as Usmanov claims to be) and he will always look at the bottom line, before considering us.
It’s an interesting equation and one that is likely to fuel debate among Arsenal supporters for the foreseeable future. What that future actually is will be, in some measure, down to the fans.
To quote an old wartime phrase. “They also serve, who stand and wait”.
That’s us that is!
Written by Adam.
Morning all…
The big, big problem when you pay your mediocre players too much is that you cannot shift them.
Emmanuel Adebayor, Togo’s most successful football import, is threatening to see out the remainder of his contract at Man City
The bling-wearing City-reject, 28, is unhappy at being asked to take a pay cut to join Tottenham.
According to the Sun, a close pal confirmed: “Manu is digging his heels in and I don’t think this is going to be sorted any time soon.
“He’s the sort of guy who will see out his contract rather than cave in.”
So, because “this sort of guy” doesn’t figure in Man City’s plans, he’ll be happy to just pick up a pay cheque for two years of doing nothing and in essence waste two years of his career.
A class act.
It is all about the fucking money. It has always been about the money.
But are we any different to Man City?
We over pay our shite and we cannot get rid of them.
Denilson, Bendtner, Park, Squillaci, Chamakh, Djourou. And what is the real true worth of a player such as Abou Diaby?
All these players are quite happy to have either an extremely limited career, or their career put on total hold whilst being overpaid by Arsenal. Get this lot off the wage bill and we would be saving near on £400,000 per week. That is around £20M per year. And for that lot.
A self sustained model?
Ade is never satisfied wherever he is
Another good fine post Adam.
I bet it was a great effort seeing that your fingers must be aching with arthritis due to the 86 winters past. 😉
“Van Persie, like so many before him, has outgrown Arsenal. Now all that is left, barring a humiliating climb-down from him, is the fee we get.”………..that in a nutshell is the RVP situation at the moment.
Will he end up like Ade?? Yes and no. He will get injured for sure and when Mancini wants to offload him after a year he will hold the club to the contract.
You gotta love shitty.
Morning all…
Another great read Adam……
My own view is that we don’t have to pay ‘huge amounts’ for players or their wage, IF we sign footballing men but it seems they are few are far between.
I’d much rather we paid £10M for a player who will give his all than £20M for a big ego and trouble maker.
Balotelli for example is a great player when he wants to be but when he is not in the mood he is like a spoilt child and too many times he gets his marching orders so what’s the point in having a player like that.
Their are plenty of players available for AW/IG to sign if they wanted to, players who fans wouldn’t be upset to pay what we have to to see them play.
I’d much rather pay to watch the likes of Chamberlain, and how much did he cost.
Our problem, as you point out, is IG is not the most dynamic in the transfer window, not unless of course he is actually just doing what Stan wants him to…
Top read again Adam.
Evening all.
SYG,
and that is where we are now, we cannot offload our deadwood because other clubs laugh at what they are earning and won’t match their wages.
We should drop the asking price so any club can put that money into their wage offer, and with it we finally get their vast wage off of our hands….
But, we as a club like to buy cheaper and sell for more, AW/IG cannot have it both ways…
Is Llorente the Spanish international we are going to sign??
Isn’t he 6′ 5″ or something, tactics are a changing if we do, two big strikers up front, bring it on 😉
You can list as many as you like, the truth is that modern pro footballers are mercenaries
Regarding your comment on Gazidis understanding the importance of fans : I believe he pays them / us lip service but is the lap dog of Stan and despite making a few moves in their direction it usually is to give with the left hand and take with the right. The club is a corporate entity now far removed from the club my Grandfather knew when he was a blacksmith at the Woolwich Arsenal.
The problem lies with Wenger and his pretty soccer. Not many teams play like his team. It seem s Arsenal take at least tree to five touches before shooting . I don’t know but if you have watched the epl’s greatest goals by some of the strikers these guys aint afraid to shoot from long range when the defence is less packed.
If you watched Arsenal it’s passing all over the pitch and by then
the enemy defenders will be back in numbers to stifle the gunners.
Wenger can’t believe why his men can’t score.
Hopefully Bould can foster a new approach and shoot on sight. As GG says the gunners are no more contenders. If that’s the case get rid of Wenger.
Great post Adam, and like Rico says
“Their are plenty of players available for AW/IG to sign if they wanted to, players who fans wouldn’t be upset to pay what we have to to see them play.
I’d much rather pay to watch the likes of Chamberlain, and how much did he cost.”
How true, I believe the fee was £15m, money well spent.
Now I am not a season ticket holder but I was for many years before we left Highbury. The only way we can get the board to listen is by boycotting games. This asks a lot to our season ticket holders that have paid fortunes but actions are louder than words.
Have an empty stadium at home and no away fans on our travels for the month of August and maybe before 31st August we may see change.
Spread the word, No Go to game for the month of August.
Guys,we need to stop being so insular in our thinking.
People carry on like we’re the only club stuck with players because of their inflated wages.
Adebayor right now is refusing to leave as no club will pay him what Citeh have him on.
That’s one very,very quick example.
It’s fine to say these guys are overpaid,but thats only because they’ve failed to produce the goods.
If they’d performed better,they’d be worth every cent of what they’re getting.
It’s two separate issues,but one that Arsenal DOESN’T have a monopoly on.
Lawrence
I read a comment on another blog a few days ago, this person had just been contacted by the club and offered a season ticket. He’d not been on the waiting list for long. It seems that fans are starting to make their feelings clear by not renewing..
But as you say, that is the only way to ‘protest’ for the want of a better word, hit the club in the pocket, it seems that that will be the only way to wake Stan up…
Scott –
that’s the very point though, when they have proved they have what it takes is the time to pay the better wage, until then, let them prove they deserve it otherwise its all a bit too easy…
An extract from The Guardian, I think it’s hilarious 🙂
In further bad news for Spurs, Emmanuel Adebayor is stalling over his much-trumpeted move from Manchester City because he’s done some sums and he doesn’t like the results one bit. Not one bit. The clubs have already agreed a £6m deal, but the player needs to be convinced that leaving a club where he is paid £175,000 a week to join one where he will be paid barely £5.5m a year would be worth his while. Spurs are also after Lyon and France goalkeeper Hugo Lloris, though the French club want £4m more than the £12m they’re offering.
Back to City, where Roberto Mancini is even now rummaging in his pockets looking for spare change to help his club trump rival bids from Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal for 13-year-old prodigy Foday Nabay. Looks like he found quite a bit of loose change in there, as the Mail report the offer will “eclipse anything of its kind in British football history” and “blow United’s offer out of the water”. Specifics unsupplied
Interesting to read – but why is Mancini ‘ a twat’ ? Nobody has won the premier league without spending money. Mancini comes across as a decent bloke. Single-minded – yes. But decent – or at least as decent as anyone in football can be
Calling all Gooners please stay at home or go to the pub for the following games:-
Aug 18 Sat Home Sunderland
Aug 26 Sun Away Stoke City (live on Sky)
Please re post on as many blogs, twitter as much as possible.
Leave to ground empty for the Directors to enjoy their game.
Lawrence – i wouldn’t bother with that just yet, AW might sign a few players between now and then…
Morning everyone. Surely we have to wait and see how things develop. You never know, the club could suprise us all (he said through gritted teeth, with all fingers crossed). If we look at the squad on the 1st September and think it could really compete, then fine. But, if, as has recently been the case, we just know that it isn’t strong enough we are also experienced enough to know that Wenger will be reluctant to strengthen in January however pressing the need and that will certainly cause unease in the stands I think. For many ST holders this will be the make or break year. Once you have let your season ticket go it seems unlikely to me that you will get it back and with each long-term active supporter the club lose, they become a little weaker. I doubt they see it this way. The financial planners most likely see each attendee as a cash asset, likely to spend x amount on refreshments etc. But, perhaps this is the way of modern football and a mechanism that is inevitable.
Rico, I know but the sooner everyone knows the better, I’m not saying dont buy a ticket just dont go on the day.
Would love the public addresser to announce the attendance is 60,000 but visibly there is less than 10,000 the media would be in a frenzy and the board would be a laughing stock.
Welcome KC, I think he comes across as a slime ball, one who taps up players, especially ours…
Morning Adam..
Lawrence. Did you know that a very similar thing actually happened at Arsenal in the 60’s? I was talking to Kev about it just the other day.
Morning Gooners.
What a great read Adam.
Especially the way you sumed up the scenario revolving RVP.
The best i’ve read on his situation…
In a way, it makes for rather sad reading, as our generation grew up with players who actually DID care about the club and showed loyalty.
Todays players don’t have those values anymore.
Maybe society doesn’t either?!
I feel a little sorry for the younger fans, as it’s doubtfull that they’ll enjoy the certainty that we enjoyed, that is, the certainty that the clubs players will stay at the club and help the club grow.
That pleasure of watching a TEAM evolve, and sharing in it’s success when that team eventually matures into a winning team.
Those things, thanks to Abramovitch & The Oilers have, it seems, been consigned to the dustbin of history.
Yeah to early for that as more signing will hopefully be made. but were getting to the point where we will all boycott the game with only a few thousand in the away section, match of the day will show it along with sky sports every 10 mins, than the press will go nuts and Mr hillwood will have a lot to answe for
We can wait but we should act now show a solidarity stance.
Just two games buy your ticket thats fine but don’t go.
A lot to ask and for most a lot to pay.
There is still plenty of time before the 18th August for the board to act. If we shout loud they may hear and act. There will be 5 days left after the stoke game for the board to decide. So we must prepare now.
KC. I believe he is a twat because he is so needy. He bleats about Man City spending being “normal”. Yes, that is what he actually said. He said that Tevez would never play for the club again and that he hoped Balotelli would be banned for his assault on Song and that he would never play for the club again and would be sold. Both of them went on to play again. He tapped up Nasri. We only got that inflated fee if we agreed not to report him to the PL for it He waited until the last minute to buy him, knowing that that it would leave us no time to sign anyone. He openly talks about our players as if they will soon be Man City players. He constantly moans to the press that he is being starved of funds to buy the players he needs. He undermined Everton badly in his overt pursuit of Lescott and then did the same with Milner. He wins the PL on goal difference after running a trading deficit of something just under £400 million and is still going on about these figures being normal and will not concede that Man City have any advantage over other clubs. Twat or not?
I guess what I mean though Lawrence is that between now and then, many things could happen..
I strongly doubt it, but…. IF we see a few changes and a we have a squad that looks really strong, fans wouldn’t want to sit out those two games…
Lawrence I don’t know how often you go but the flaw in your argument is that many of the season ticket holders actually support the club in their financial actions.It is an argument that can be heard on the concourses after most games. The club has managed to polarise opinions and although a significant minority might be inclined to protest the majority will not. I no longer buy merchandise , programmes , drinks or food and there are many like me , but you only have to see the carrier bags after matches to see that the policy of selling to day trip red members is where they are making their money.
I actually believe the club will be happy to see the season ticket waiting list dwindle and for people to stop renewing. They are confident of selling out the cat a games and by reducing the others they feel they can attract more day trip red members to buy the merchandise which most season ticket holders do not. Staying away won’t work as there are a significant majority that either agree with the fiscal policy or just go out of habit and are content with what they have.
Arsenal have received bids for their captain Robin Van Persie from Manchester United, Manchester City and Juventus.
The Gunners have confirmed that the 28-year-old striker will not be part of the squad that travels to Asia on Saturday for a three match pre season tour, a move that could signal the end of his Arsenal career.
Van Persie is entering the last year of his contract with the club and he has indicated that he will not sign a new deal with the club.
It is understood United, City and Juventus have tabled bids in the region of £15 million for Van Persie but Arsenal are hoping for a fee closer to the £20 million mark for their prized asset.
Van Persie was named both the Professional Footballers’ Association and Football Writers’ player of the year last season after scoring 30 Premier League goals for the Gunners, but after a meeting with manager Arsene Wenger and Chief Executive Ivan Gazidis Van Persie confirmed his wish to leave the club believing he and the club had differing aims for the future.
“I’ve thought long and hard about it, but I have decided not to extend my contract,” the Dutchman wrote on his website.
“This was a meeting about the club’s future strategy and their policy. Financial terms or a contract have not been discussed, since that is not my priority at all.
“I personally have had a great season but my goal has been to win trophies with the team and to bring the club back to its glory days.
“Out of my huge respect for Mr Wenger, the players and the fans I don’t want to go into any details, but unfortunately in this meeting it has again become clear to me that we in many aspects disagree on the way Arsenal FC should move forward.”
Van Persie will remain in England while the club go on their tour of the far-east and it is understood that Wenger is hoping for a quick resolution to the problem to begin planning for the upcoming season without or without the striker.
Devil – all around £15 Million weren’t they?
Will be interesting to see if anything materialises by the end of today, don’t they travel to Asia tomorrow?
Setanta Sport report that RvP will not be in the travelling squad…
wish i could just wake up to find out that this was all a nightmare…That in actual fact, while i was asleep,RVP goes wherever he wants to and that we are the top of the league by the end of the season.
Morning all. Good points Adam. I for one don’t want to go the Citeh and Chealski way but I feel, as with many things in life, there is a halfway house where we can spend that little bit more and invest the money we receive in some of these players we have sold. I have felt for the last 2-3 years we have been 1-2 quality players from challenging for the title. I don’t see why we can’t spend £25m for one player, we must have the funds for that. I am not saying we should do this with 5 players in one summer like the 2 above and nor do I think we need to. AW’s project for me is not a failure and has given us a great base that these other teams don’t have so we don’t have to spend as much as them. I think AW’s problem is he over-estimated what the project would bring and felt he wouldn’t ever again have to lay out a significant fee for a player brought in from outside ever again. I think he has realised now this cannot happen and so I would hope he would be prepared to lay out more on the right player. The wages paid to players that are not good enough is also a problem and we obviously need to change our wage structure so players only get what they should relative to their present standing in the game, and that would mean less at the bottom end and more at the top.
On another point I know Llorente is highly thought of and it would seem that with him and Giroud we would have 2 similar players. I don’t know enough about Llorente’s style of play however and would welcome some insight from anyone who knows more. What I am thinking is although he is big does he have that classical Spanish ability and vision with the ball at his feet? Some big players can do this and it doesn’t always mean they have to purely be a target man. Berbatov and Ibrahimovich for example often come deep and don’t stay as pure target men. Does Llorente have this and could he play in behind Giroud or is he a pure number 9 player?
I haven’t seen enough of him to say , but the fact that he was in the Spanish squad but didn’t play suggests that he did not fit into their passing game . So mit makes you wonder if we are looking at changing our style and going for Wengerball mark 4.
😆 bondex – AW says we can still win the league, regardless of Chelsea and Citeh spending….
Same as Potter GoonerB, I haven’t seen Llorente play but the rumours about him are gathering pace, there is also another Spanish player linked with us, Cazorla, and the Spanish media are reporting we have made an offer for him.
Maybe one of these two are to do with the rumour that was rife on twitter a few days ago
So RVP not going with the squad. RVP most likely off. RVP wants medals etc. I get it…….im a level headed human and can see the big picture but there is one point that i simply CANNOT get my head around and you guys must have an answer.
Why on earth would we sell RVP to Man city or United?.
even for less money its best he goes abroad. today we hear AW saying no way UTD and journo’s saying door open for City……duh! is it just me or is that the most ridiculous scenario?
Selling our Captain to city would be the worst thing Arsenal board could ever do at this point in time.
Gooner B. All excellent points and I agree. I have seen Llorente play many times and he is skillful and has that knack of being in the right place at the right time. He can finish too. Oh and he has lovely blue eyes. I watch Spanish football a lot and Cazorla has always been one of my favorite players. A bit like David Silva but perhaps less predictable and with a better work ethic, he plays across the midfield and I the sort of player who makes things happen. He doesn’t feel the need to beat his man twice like Silva often does. Either, or both, would certainly increase our quality in depth. Neither would be cheap though – and there’s the rub.
If he wants to leave and then chooses whatever club sell him and get this saga over. Then buy an attacking midfielder, a reserve goalkeeper and maybe a young striker. Get these players who want to be at the club ready and lets get on with the football.
If walcott does not sign off with him as well unlike most here today I think our squad is better now than last year and with mosr time to get used to each other, better seasons from the Gerv and a more experienced Coquelin in the immortal words of Delia Smith “lets be having you”
Vernat. Amen to that.
Thorny, that about RvP is not yet confirmed but today I am in the ‘lets sell him asap’ mood – then get on and spend the money but of course we can’t do that until another club makes an acceptable offer..
Adam, I see your favourite blog report that AW is one player departure away from quitting Arsenal…
As it stands vernat, we are Podolski and Giroud better off, two fine signings (on paper)
I’d still like us to get that beast of a DM to stop us having a gaping hole in midfield and a older/wiser keeper..
I won’t mention Theo 😉
Which one Rico. As you know, I have several favorites. Not the BR is it? I don’t see that any more as I have my effluent filter switched on.
Adam and Rico, you guys always seem to have the right answers to issues @ Rico AW’s comments don’t inspire me a bit,they always make you want to prepare for the worst instead of getting you excited.
Hiya Rico . Morning all. …AW says we can still win the league, regardless of Chelsea and Citeh spending…
Arsenal CAN, of that there is NO doubt. But HOW and WHEN are the ultimate questions.
Wenger cannot answer them truthfully until all the deadwood has been culled and 4-5 quality “world class” players have come in to replace them. It’s not a major overhaul, it’s just a case of dumping the shite and replacing them with better players.
And nobody would mind RvP going if the stories that surrounded Paulinho, Ganso, M’Villa and Jovetic were in fact, TRUE.
Good business is not just about making money, it’s also about looking after the customer.
In one Adam, I haven’t read it, just the heading made me want to steer well clear.
If devil is right and his explanation makes me think he could very well be, I very much doubt if Arsene Wenger is considering walking away….
Spot on SYG, we’d soon be saying Robin who?? IF we were to sign just 2/3 of those you mention..
Bondex . Bitter experience with a dose of healthy cynicism thrown in. But I do think that Adam and Rico has a nice ring to it. Though. I would say Rico and Adam myself. Magical act, or trapeze artists?
@SYG I totally agree…
DM and an AM and a back-up GK will do me nicely. No use crying over spilt milk now. I can’t be shedding anymore tears!
Am deffo in the “dont care if he goes, get dosh, strengthen” camp, but if we want to keep him as much as AW says, it means we rate him as highly as any other player around. So in my eyes we would be mental to sell to a direct competitor of ours and still harp on about the fact that we can win the title. Also saying that we will stubournly hang on to him for his last year (so lose him on a free) does not add up at all if we are only interested in the highest bidder.
To be honest as long as he moves quickly he can go wherever the hell he wants, I am only interested in Arsenal players and in my view he is no longer one so sell him to whoever as long as he goes now.
Nice to see George Graham is as supportive as ever. If only we had Glenn Helder, Eddie McGoldrick and David Hillier we’d be in great shape. Sorry George but the till has a lock on it these days.
And thanks for your response there. I aint got a huge amount of time as working at the counter and its sunny so lots of surf hire, but its great to jump on to HH when I can and rattle around some points that my staff just dont understand. always good
I’d take one of your boards Thorny. I could surf to the shops. 🙂
Adam – Niall Quinn is the biggest wanker when it comes to negativity re: the club.
Also:
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/165/7918459/man-united-rebuffed-in-moura-bid
And don’t have the business nous to get them to take Denilson back full time and for a fee?
SYG. I’d rather eat tripe that listen to that dickhead.
High tide at 6pm Adam….its a big spring tide aswell so you probably could surf to the shops
Or at least up to the Green Parrot Thorny. 🙂
Well he certainly talks it, Adam.
Adam !
imo your missing the point…firstly im happy to learn that you actually knows more about the rvp situation than me,so there is no possibility that rvp’s statement of Our Beloved Arsenals lack of ambitions is true…nasri was lying too and even clichy ?(even though he didnt shout it out)how about cesc..was it purely down to barca dna.?.
me im not sure if you look at Our situation i tend to believe that the kronk is running us to the ground…we’re openly admitting to NOT being able to compete and thats fair…its about time Gooners just accepted that we are now..just a business..thats our ambition making money for kronk..nothing else..ohh yes we do play football too…
ill be direct Gooners who have easily accepted the kronks way og running Our Beloved Arsenal..have quite frankly sold their soul..
NB! We have no money..Wenger has said it himself he is forced to sell players for about 20-25 m every season and thats just whats going to continue..next year..wilshere..
Yes gazidis ..its exciting times..you where right sir !
bondex – they do, just like his ‘this is the best squad ever’ comments – when we all know it’s one of his worst..
But, 2/3 more really good signings and he may be forgiven for thinking that this could be one of our better squads in a long while…
Adam – 12.27 😆
vernat – i am of similar view today, who cares where he goes, let’s just get what we can for him and move on, all this is doing us fans, the other players and our great club, no good whatsoever….
AH Pal Lydersen, they don’t make ’em like him anymore do they tomstoned…
Kev. 🙂
As I said Rico, it’s not a major overhaul we need and it wouldn’t cost the earth if we conducted the business like a business, but we don’t.
Fabregas to Barcelona for £35M was a stupid piece of business that cost the club millions. He should have been held to his contract or sold to the HIGHEST bidder.
Saying that Adebayor, Toure and Glichy to City for £47M was a fantastic piece of business.
We ought to have a more mercenary approach with the players, especially the deadwood.
So, Robin has confirmed that he’s definately leaving.
God, what does that say about Boris Becker…..?!!!
Sure it wasn’t Boris Johnson?
Or Boris Karlof…?
Anyway, the ‘show will go on’…
Couldn’t give a flying fcuk about Robin now…
He’s history to me now!
All I can think of is watching Lukasz Podolski and Olivier Giroud running out onto the pitch in Arsenal shirts.
Charlie George..what a truly great nick mate..;)..well Norwegian players arent what they (used)to be im afraid …
even worse…summer was the best part of the season..overly excited of the fact that a new season was ablout to kick off…pure joy..
these days well all Gooners know summers are killing times…the time where Our Beloved Arsenal sells off their best players..and gazidis have the nerve to call it exciting ..give me two minutes with that joker…and ill sort him out..
i didnt care much about the way rvp behavec himself…but im inclined to believe him…no ambition..
like Wenger said if your selling of your best players we’re no longer a great club…we’re running for the cliff and i just hope we dont jump..
From a financial position I agree S.Y.G. we should get the most we can. However whilst we hang on to them the squad cannot develop. It’s cleft stick.
Adam, 😉
Totally agree SYG..
Charlie – Where did you hear that about RvP? If it’s factual, I’m with you, he can naff off and leave us…
NN have a headline suggesting a ‘new bid’ has been made and we are considering it…
Citeh or Fergie??
Tom the Viking….
Look mate, I know it’s depressing when these things happen.
But it’s happen before and it’ll happen again.
There really is no point in beating ourselves up buddy.
RVP will break down and miss a lot of next season.
And then we’ll be larfin.
I am going out on a limb here.
But I think that Arsenal can finish in the top two this season…
And now I have to go back to work. 😀
COYG
The Independent and Telegraph have just reported it 5 mins ago
Thanks SYG…
Nothing on the official site… How typical..
Ibrahamovic is on £225,000 per week net plus £9.96M per year in bonuses dependant on appearances etc..
It’s got to be Manure RvP is joining, otherwise he’d travel to Asia to meet his new team-mates – don’t we play Citeh whilst we are out there
😆
Unreal wages, and wrong imho….
SYG. Blimey, that’s getting close to Kev’s earnings. 🙂
Adam, you know tooo much…. 🙂 🙂 😉
Sorry Rico, no info on Robin. But it seems a done deal imho.
But AW won’t sell to ManUre.
Maybe he senses a vunerability in them?
An inability to compete for the £30m players anymore?
Maybe he thinks we can finish above them….
Also, maybe AW will sanction the RVP sale to Shittie on condition that they drop their interest in Niang???
Afternoon all………. Have we bought Pele yet…?
Afternoon WATH.
RvP off to Man Utd and Diaby wants his No. 10 shirt. It least that way the legendary shirt will be rested, totally unused until the end of his contract.
or RvP off to Man City and we get Adebayor back in part-exchange
I bet he’d sell to Manure if they offer more than Citeh Kev, and RvP won’t want to been seen in the same light as Nasri – my money is on him joining Fergie
We can’t forget, its the players choice and i just don’t think he’d go to Citeh…
I’ve seen all the drivel re vP SYG, Oh well move him on as yet another greedy fucker looking for a nice huge salary, Always be a gooner my arse he has not a f’kin clue what it means to be a gooner the 2 faced hypocrite..!
As you said earlier it’s not about who leaves it never has been it’s about the ambition the club shows in replacing him and if they say Pod & Gir they need to be lined up and shot. They may well be good players BUT they not the marquee name that the fans want when feeling so let down from constantly loosing our best players.
rico..well if he’s true to his words…ambition..those two clubs would both be ok i guess…
vP to manure for dosh plus player….! who…?
Berbatov?
Afternoon Wath
I know who I take from them and it isn’t Berbytoff…
tomstoned, I’d rather he went and joined his mate in Spain…
Chickpea or Wellbeck would do me 🙂
Maybe Rooney. There are a lot of houses near London Colney that need a new asphalt drive.
Please HELP!!!…I think there’s something wrong with me I’m always trying to read RVP’s mind when I see his pictures in training..is happy?sad? angry?
there’s no need to get upset rico..this is The Arsenal way and will continue to be just that..selling off..
and me personally i dont believe for a second that its the money…rvp have seen where we are going..and was honest about it..nasri too…darn i was tricked into believing they where just money grabbin fools….no more..
we’re the English version of Ajax…just like Wenger wants us to be..
but on the upside…we could be a great business model…and we could start like some Gooner already have…take great pride in making money…it doesnt have to be all about points and winning trophies..
lets see ffp as a trophy..
Bondex. Perhaps he is trying to work out how to drive two cars at the same time?
Like I’ve said before, nobody minds us selling a player .. just as long as that player is adequately replaced.
Nobody would mind RvP going if the stories that surrounded Paulinho, Ganso, M’Villa and Jovetic were in fact, TRUE.
But in the mean time cull the deadwood.
tomstoned, i’m not upset, just used to it – it angers me more than upsets me…
And, as SYG said, if players were sold and replaced properly, I doubt many would care too much…
i hear you rico..its not pretty to watch Our demise..but there’s hope in the future…lets do what gazidis tells us to..over and over agin..trust me ?
SYG, we can’t cull the deadwood they on to higher wages and we seem to think we can also demand stupid transfer fees for them..!
tomstoned, i am bored of listening to his words about trust, same with AW’s – they mean nothing as they seldom back up all their promises…
Empty words as easy to speak…
I’m resigned to van Persie going. No way back as far as I am concerned. No point in wasting energy on him. I was expecting to see Wilshere at least doing some light jogging with the 1st Team though. Far more concerning than vP.
WATH.
You are in charge of the Denilson, Bendtner, Park, Squillaci, Chamakh, Djourou and the Abou Diaby situation.
Denilson is in Sao Paulo and off the wage bill. They won’t pay a fee for him.
Bendtner is the world’s most glorious forward, with some of the best clubs in the world clamouring for his signature – according to Bendtner that is.
Park is Park
Chamakh is interesting Fiorentina and a few Turks
Djourou is wanted by Napoli
and Abou Diaby has just signed a new 19-year contract because Wenger loves the lad.
It is your shout.
BJ – Now he’s refused to travel to Asia, can’t see any way back, even if there was one before…
Wath – double standards imho when it comes to selling players…
England 385 all out
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18922208
more on RvP
I’d give them ALL nominal fees SYG… half of what anyone thinks is market value just to get a few bob in and more importantly get them off the wage bill and out of the club…! That alone as previously said by you i think would save us a good 10/15million a year… We also paying half Denilsons wages still from what I been told… Madness.
I never knew that re: Denilson WATH
Anderson gets A. Pietersen out with his three card trick SA 1-1
By all accounts we wanted 6million for Denilson as well SYG, I’d let him go for 3/4 and be done with it…!
You can’t understand their logic?
As Rico says, buy cheap sell expensive and want top dollar for average players yet when we bid we always penny pinching… You cannot have it both ways.
SYG…..we get who in part exchange??? The togolump??
I know that here the heat is unbearable. but has it gone a bit to the area you have between your ears mate????
I just cannot see AFC paying him 175kpw.
AW, IG will choke in their cereal while PHW will have to be operated in his windpipe due to a cigar stuck there.
PErsonally I would rather see Niang bought and given the same chances that Anelka was given between 97 and 99.
DevilGunner – I was taking the piss – It’s a joke. Surely you knew that?
ahhhh. bless you then. I thought you were serious.
thing is that here with this unbearable heat I have got such an unberable headache that I am slow on the uptake.
Adebayor..? good god.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic’s record-breaking salary at his new Paris club has sparked a fierce backlash from French politicians denouncing it as “indecent” at a time of financial hardship.
The 30-year-old Swedish striker’s transfer to Paris Saint-Germain from Milan was hailed by fans with hundreds chanting “Ibra! Ibra!” as he was presented to them Wednesday at a ceremony in front of the Eiffel Tower.
He has been hired on a reported annual net salary of about €14 million – the most ever paid to a player in France.
But with France struggling to avoid recession and unemployment on the rise, Socialist politicians have reacted angrily to the figure, denouncing it as a sign of rampant excess.
Even one former sports minister from the right-wing UMP party has denounced the salary.
France’s new Socialist government is insisting that Ibrahimovic will have no choice but to pay the 75 per cent tax rate it intends to impose on annual salaries in excess of one million euros from next year.
“These numbers are not impressive, they are indecent,” Budget Minister Jerome Cahuzac said when asked about Ibrahimovic’s salary.
“They are indecent at a time when everyone in the entire world is making efforts and knows the terrible consequences of a crisis,” he said.
Sports Minister Valerie Fourneyron attacked the salary as “astronomical and unreasonable” while government spokeswoman Najat Vallaud-Belkacem said the sum “shocked a lot of people”.
Vallaud-Belkacem said there was no way Ibrahimovic would “escape” from paying the 75 per cent tax rate.
Some ministers even rejoiced that his salary would bring so much revenue to state coffers.
“I am delighted that he will be paying taxes in France,” said Benoit Hamon, a junior economy minister.
“This is a demonstration that this tax was not an argument to prevent great players from coming to play in France.”
It’s not French money though is it? Isn’t it Qatari loot? But it does say a lot about the game when top players are moving to a below par league like the one in France purely for money. Couldn’t we flog them van Persie? I imagine PSG will win the French league this year. Of course the fascinating thing is that this Platini’s club and his role-defining thing is FFP, a concept, originally designed to prevent the sort of excess PSG, Chelsea and Man City are the poster boys for. The bosses at Real Madrid and Barcelona must be happy.
You old cynic Adam 😉 😉
It is Qatari money. But in essence the tax will not go to Qatar but to the froggies. So like Barca and Shitty are sponsoring the Emirates stadium, Qatar oil is sponsoring the french inland revenue.
The danger here is that Shitty, Chavs, PSG, Malaga, Real, Barca, and all those rich clubs who have a sugar daddy will eventually form their own superleague and divorce themselves from Uefa.
hello there!
No important news for the moment…
No JM. not exactly. Well the only exception is that Adam has made one hell of an effort and overcame his arthritic fingers to do another one hell of a post. You know, after seeing 86 winters those fingers must surely be bent out of shape. 😉
carzorlaaaaa!!!!!!!!! yeah!!!!!!!!!! who needs robin when we ve got a “saint”
Good article here
http://angryofislington.com/2012/07/20/rvp-not-touring-so-who-actually-runs-arsenal/
Afternoon JM & goonster,
devil, i think you might be heading for a cyber slap there 😉
goonster, we haven’t signed anyone…. yet 😉
Devil. Respect your elders. 🙂
wtf????????
Oyyyyy Goonie. you made me jump out of my skin.
have we got cazorla yet???? did you read it somewhere????
carzolaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do respect my elders Adam. Especially those who are twice my age………..and a living piece of history. 🙂
I guess that Goonie has read somewhere that the AFC cook has bought some Gorgonzola and mixed it with Cazorla. These things happen you know. 😉
I should hope so Devil. When I come to Malta I will ask you show me around the place and Gozo. 🙂
carzorlaa!!!!!!
afternoon guys….am so exited. wew ve got carzolaaa!!!!!
oh did i say afternoon? its still morning here> yeah devil, my contacts say we re in for him and that we re gonna get him and my contacts never lie! or let me down. santi carzorlaa!!!!!!!
Calm down Goonie.
No need to wet yourself with excitement.
We havent bought anyone yet. well with the exception of Podolski and Giroud.
The only contacts I know you have are to be found in skirts usually Goonie. Or with the neck of a bottle. 😉
who cares devil…..its still contacts. do you have any? so why are you knocking mine down? and ye we re going to sign him. wanna bet? $100?
Joel Campbell heads a goal in his first game. Circa 1 minute 13 seconds into the clip.
Giroud is to wear number 12….
goonster – you have just put the mockers on any chance of signing him then 🙂
Bet $100 with you???? Are you off your knockers??? why…to go and spend it on skirts and bottles. Better off saving it so that I will have enough to buy my wife a diamond ring for having the patience to remain with me for twelve years now. And that is tomorrow mate.
yeah that’s his favorite no back in tour rico….men our team is shaping up really good. imagine podolski and giroud upfront with carzola pulling the strings! men my pants are all filled up with cream…..COYFGS.. come on! yeaaaahhhhhhh!
I bet it will be Podolski who will get the number 10 now.
Who will wear No 10 and who will be captain?
You beat me to it DG.
As I said before you posted Adam………..I think Podolski will get the 10 while TommyV will be captain. I guess Song will be vice captain now.
diamond ring? pah, you re a wuss. get her a musket instead! she ll love ya for it!
That 4.43 of yours is a beautiful image Goonie. Can’t get it out of my mind.
shut up adam…..and hello mama bear, how are ya? nope we re signing him. my contacts nevere lie.
Cheers Stan.
She’ll love me more if I get her a Tamahagane Katana. But seeing that it costs too much it will be a diamond ring for her.
Cazorla… I’ve read this name. A good player but Chelsea and Valencia are close him.
The Captain? Rosicky first. No doubts of that. Then Vermaelen.
I reckon you could be right re the number 10 devil..
Captain Vermaelen surely?
A sword?
what the heck is a tamaha?????? wtf, get a war musket you ninny! she ll probably blow your brains out but hey its worth it. atleast you get to tell God”i died for love”
Not Rosicky. Too injury prone.
You suggesting that Rosicky is the next to leave JM 😉
Park has scored for south korea
Devil. Wasn’t there one of those in Kill Bill?
yes Adam. A martial arts sword.
She will enjoy chopping Goonie in thin fine slices.
She practices Jeet kun do. Much better than me. And the little prince is already taking in some lessons.
good thanks goonster, you?
You said that about Ricky and Mata 😉
Park always does for his country devil, shame we didn’t get to see if he could for us last season..
tbh I prefer Tai Chi. It has more health benefits and allows you mind to relax a lot.
DG. Interesting. When I come to Malta I shall expect a demonstration. 🙂
That is because he is used to play in a 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 Rico. And AW never went for those formations, its always 4-5-1 or 4-2-3-1. Had he gone for those formations we would have seen better of Bendy, Park, Arshavin and maybe Vela.
you will mate. Provided you can get me out of the training grounds that is.
Why did we bother signing him then devil, that’s the question I’d like Wenger to answer…
To have someone plug in the holes in case RVP got injured. AW never imagined in any of his dreams that RVP will stay fit all season. That is why he never pushed that much to renew his contract up till now. He preferred the status quo. He would have had a strong hand had RVP got a couple of months injured and he bet on it. However the fitness people threw a spanner in his wheel and RVP had a great season.
And Park was the victim as much as Chamack was.
U18’s: Chelsea 2 – Arsenal 3
I’m not so sure devil, if he needed a player to be there just in case, we had bendtner who we are already paying, why pay out for another…
Shirts and other merchandise, that’s what poor old Park was about…
BDW Adam………..I can show you around Malta but not Gozo. I have not been there for the past 9 years and tbh I do not like the place. Too much overcrowded by tourists and maltese.
I am off now Fine Folk. Time to go out with the missus to celebrate now. Tomorrow its our 12th wedding anniversary.
cu all Fine Folk
Dg- The fitness guys couldn’t have guessed AW’s plans since he is always saying the exact opposite of what he means..
Congratulations to you both for tomorrow devil, have a wonderful evening….
Congrats DG have a great time,cheers.
12th year anniversy? wow devil you re almost old. anyway congrats buddy.
Sky sports free this weekend and what’s on the box, cricket, horse jumping and wrestling, think I’ll go back to bed !!!
Football’s back tonight, Great Britain vs Brazil, Ramsey vs Neymar, should be a good game.
Isn’t Llorente around the same age as RvP only more expensive, another rubbish story, as if we’d spend the money we get for RvP, why change the habit of a lifetime, season tickets are already in the bag.
bondex – spot on about what comes from Arsene, add Gazidis to that too…
If only they spoke more truth….
maam, we did get mata and alvarez, dick law muddled it all up….but thanks to God he’s not in charge of santi’s deal. he’s coming to us rico. watch this space.
If RVP goes to OT,it will show Wenger has lost the plot and akin to Chelsea lobbing Highbury with showers of gbp. The fm has caused the gunners to decline and if he were to accept the red faced offer,it will truly show Arsenal are now a sellers club.
Why not make him see out the remaining year of his contract?After all he has not asked for a transfer.Even if he were to ask for one,the gunners can ask fora prohibitive price. If that is met,then let him go.
I am afraid if RVP really moves,I would prefer him to go abroad. That said if the fm cannot get the gunners challenging,he must go .
goonster – we didn’t, they are elsewhere, we could have yes, but didn’t 😉
Fergie has confirmed the manure bid for RvP…
Stan, nevermind about Mata & Alverez, go and change your pants, this instant!!!
Bloody messing up your underwear every 5 mins.
I tell your Mutter…. 😉
James, no way can he stay now, he’s refused to travel tomorrow, he’s made it clear he doesn’t want to stay, let him go and as quick as possible as far as i’m concerned….
So Arsenal are a big club. Yeah by selling your best players evrey season the last five years. Furthermore by giving players of moderate ability big sums of money,Wenger hoped to bridge the gap with the big boys.Superstars like RVP shd be paid at the most 100k pw.That’s where the trouble started.His team will challenge.
Unfortunately it hasn’t or choked at vital moments of the season.
RVP will have a better chance of winning trophies at MC. Ihave left out MU because I don’t think the fm will want the dm tomake the red faced stronger. The dm had seen through Wenger’s playing sysytem it would unlikely win trophies. And I agree 200% with him.Things will have to change but as the fm has indicated he won’t.
He has been deluded the last five years.This guy has caused the systemtic decline of Arsenal through his philosophy.Football has changed .
By that I dont expect Aresnal to throw hundreds of millions . I expect them to get quality p;ayers or th right players.
I fear for Arsenal this coming season.Football is an unpredictable game. I just hope the gunners can challenge and win the epl.If not all thr attractive football Wenger’s team will go to waste.
You just cannot beat horsejumping and wrestling.
Don’t tell Stan, whatever ya do Mick.
Or else he’ll have to put a nappy on….
Hi Micko – I tried to get the free HD channels, it came up with a message that i needed to call them to upgrade 😆
You know Rico, I gave up Sky 5 years ago.
Thought I would miss it…
But the simple fact is that I don’t….
Kev, it’s just a matter of time before Interpol catch up with him.
You feeling a bit better today rico ? sky are a bit crafty like that, looks like RvP is really off.
Hi all.good read.
Kev – I am on the verge of quitting Sky too, going to switch to BT Vision, its far cheaper….
Good to hear you don’t miss it though Kev.
I am thanks Micko – ache a lot but at least the sneezing has stopped and the sore throat gone …
Just checked the HD, still nothing…
RvP is a gonner, and he’s no gooner….
Hey Kt, where have you been hiding??
Just popping off to eat, back shortly…
I’ve been around the block.am very disappointed by Rvp that selfish prick.ever since he made that selfish statement it has been chaos all round.he has done exactly what cesc did but worse by releasing that statement to make his position untenable.ironically nasri had the classiest exit but is hated the most.he went with the team to Asia,took part in preseason training and he even took the pitch when we played liverpool.cesc and rvp have made nasri look like a saint.if Rvp goes to the mancs he will be worse than Ade/cashley combined…it will be the last straw for many fans including myself.
You and all of us Kt…
Am not even excited anymore for the new season.I think next season onwards i’ll watch football as a neutral.There is so much wrong with football nowadays;its not the game i loved since i was a boy.what is the point of it if some rich guy can just buy a club and offer a player close to a 1 million pounds a month?am losing interest in the game and thats why i’ve not blogged in a while.
I can understand that Kt, but actually, I can’t wait to see Giroud and Podolski, and a few of the younger players getting their chance and showing us all why they want to be with us..
Lansbury being the main one….
Great point re: Nasri, KT, and good to have you back.
Lata
carzorla!!!!!!!! and am not gonna stop till its confirmed! hi kt, how’s business?
hey AK, just creamed me pants again!
am curious to see how they pan out rico but i can’t say am holding my breath.thats not to say they are shit or anything…
let that one legged freak go….he ll soon prove himself. he ll be injured before october. mark my words. like you said ” he’s a classless prick! end of.
am good goonster/AK.
maybe the rumours about him being a jerk in the Dutch dressing room at the Euros were true after all…I never thought he would do this to us.Remember him hugging AW when he equalised against Barca?the raw emotion that night convinced me that he really was one of us but how wrong were we all?…
what do you make of the carzorla story kt? looks real from my side. him playing in that hole behind both strikers? we ll be a different prospect. the guy oozes class. the reason he’s not a regular for spain is cause of that wizard iniesta. really hope we get him. he ll transform us into a winning team again. come on arsene get him pronto.
well that’s what we get from “modern professionals”……am not surprised though. there are very few rauls and tottis these days.
😆 goonster – Cazorla is a definite no no 😉
santi carzorla, that will automatically cataput us into the top two. rvp out= santi in. i understand the fears that people have about buying foreign players but if its improved quality we are after then we must look beyond the british islands.
stop raining in my parade rico…………i dont piss in your porridge!
joywedsjeff, you owe me a drink! thank you pal.
oops did i say you owe me a drink? jeez, i meant i owe you a drink.
Carzola is very good goonie especially at setpieces.i remember him scoring an equalizer against madrid this past season at the Bernabeu in the closing moments of the game.he is class but am not sure how true the rumours are.
KT, I do sympathise with your feelings.
I’ve gone throygh similar periods of despair.
Namely when Arsenal went out of the FA Cup to York in the 1980’s.
And at the fag end of the George Graham era when I gave up my season ticket for 3 years.
But it’s a drug KT.
It gets into your bloodstream.
Once the season starts you’ll be ok mate…
well the source is pretty credible KT. i think its the real deal. i ve been saying this all summer. wenger wont sign a DM he ll rather get an AM and carzorla fits the bill….besides i heard we tried getting him last season.
Is he that good JM??
I don’t eat porridge goonster….
Stan, you and your bloody pants…. 🙄
I give up…… 🙂
hope you are right AK because right now i feel like i don’t care about the game anymore…
fine, then i ll piss all over woofie and them chickens who by the way should be fat and juicy now……hey when do we get to eat them cause i cant wait to rip their feathers off1
Rico, don’t blame ya re: Sky. Is it 4 or 5 sports channels?
Talk about taking the piss.
What do that other mob BT charge?
hope you are right goonie.remember Mata last year when you were very excited?lets hope it doesn’t happen again this year.
dont worry kt am sure this time…..he ll be wearing red and white next season.
Know what you mean KT.
I suppose personally it’s a case of me being bloody minded.
Why should I allow those financially doped wankers to spoil my passion for Arsenal.
I simply won’t allow those arseholes to do it…
goonster – you are such a hoot…. the rotty around the back of the house will tear you to shreds….
Kev, with BT Vision, I can get tv, phone and broadband for about £40 less a month – only thing is, no sky sports news and i doubt that will destroy me, other than each 31st August 😉
I would rather do that and pay to watch legal streaming each week and get a cable into the television from the laptop 😉
goonster you love coke?
you think am scared of your little dog……have you seen me? am huge!
coke? as in cocaine? or just plain cocacola.
Not the little one goonster, she’s cute, but the other one is a bit of a beast, the guard dog… big teeth, hard jaw and can’t wait for a good feed – you are welcome any time 😉
send me your address………….we ll see who ll feed on who!
😆 you do always manage to make me chuckle goonster ….
that’s why am here maam,…that’s why am here.
coca cola of course. i buy you a 100 bottle covers
nah, am a beer,tequilla kinda guy. you got any beers for me? you may send the coke to AK and devil. they re wussies and they drink coke.
😆 goonster
I’m done for the day guys, catch you tomorrow..
Have a good evening/night
Nighty….
night mama bear……dream of me devouring your dog and eating your chickens for desert.
off for a bit….later
Cazola is a very good player
Morning all.
Can’t say I know Cazorla,but i think we need an AM more than a DM.
Throw Coquelin in,or if our CB’s are all fit and healthy,how Vermaelen in as DM.
Buy Cazorla,or someone else as an AM,piss RVP off and get a replacement.
We will be in business.
evening scott, have signed him yet?
STANLEY…….did I catch you calling me & Coach wussies…
I’ll stick some deep heat in your underpants if your not carefull.
You won’t be creaming anything for month young man!
Btw, where is Dutch?
I was looking on AFC.Com last night, and noticed that both Bartley & Lansbury have been placed on the 1st team squad page.
Mind you Vela was on there as well.
AK, you re a wuss……hahahahaha
Aussies are so tough we brush our teeth with Deep Heat!!
Morning all..
New Post up
Don’t beleive Ivan and AW when they yalk aout sustanbility. Its an excuse to mean that Kroneke doesn’t have to out his hand in his pocket. Stan has a huge debt to pay off for the shares he bought plus he pays himself £25,000 a week in wage! The club is going backwards and anyone who can’t see it must be believing the rubbish propaganda on FFP and sustanbility. The reason they keep saying this is to partly convince the fans and Stan himself as they have orders to keep spending down so he can pay off his debt. 2014 would be my guess as to when he will sell up as the new commercial deals will be done but in my opinon he should go much sooner otherwise it will be too late. Please isgn this petition to get kroneke out
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/savearsenalfc
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” Yes, they are mercenaries who will today pledge their love for the club that we also love, only to leave for more money tomorrow.”
Foreigners! The internationalization of the game, and ownership by billionaires paying incredible money for travelling players sends up the price the poor bastard in the suburbs pays to get through the gate and cost of season tickets etc
goonster says:
July 20, 2012 at 8:55 pm
coke? as in cocaine? or just plain cocacola.