Peter Hill-Wood has been rambling again, this time about Arsene Wenger:
For him to stay longer than that would be perfect. I can’t think of anybody better to run the team. He has shown how much rubbish people were talking earlier this season. We had a terrible run of injuries and that obviously had an effect.
But a few mindless people were saying that he had to go, that Arsene was past his sell-by date. He has shown that is nonsense.
I want him to stay for the long-term and I see no reason at all why he should want to go.
Wenger has two years left on his current contract and as PHW went on to say, why would he want to go, he has a relatively young squad, surely he wants to be around to watch them gel together and become winners?
Onto the player struggling, no it’s Diaby, it’s Jack!
I will not take any risks with him, he is making slow progress so we still have to monitor the situation a little bit at the moment. We are now in mid-April, the Euros start in the middle of June.
Jack has not played for the whole season and anyone who knows what is required at the top-level, in terms of intensity, it’s getting short now.
When asked if Wilshere’s spirits were high, Wenger added:
How can you be at 20 years of age when your only dream is to play football? He’s down. Jack is mentally strong. But what is holding him back is that he can’t play football, so he can’t be happy.
That kind of suggests that our man is going through a tough time, he’s desperate to be playing football but he can’t, he’s injured and he’s struggling.
On the other hand, Wenger has very high praise for Yossi Benayoun:
He has been very patient and very professional. He came here with lack of competition and it took him a while to become really sharp.
He kept working and waited for his place. We kept faith in him and put him in for big games because he is an intelligent and talented player. He has a good team attitude.
The problem with Yossi was more physical because he is a guy who plays on his sharpness and quick movement.
He had a big injury don’t forget and it took him some time to come back. After that, when you do not play big games it takes you time to find the confidence again. Now he is there.
So it seems one man won’t be helping us in our last few games of the season and personally speaking, I am glad. I think we all pretty much agree that we’d rather see Jack have a summer of rest and be ready for when our season kicks off in August and not being risked in the Euros or the Olympics. Same can be said for Diaby too, no doubt if he played one of two games before the end of the season, the French camp would call him up for the Euros, what’s the point?
As for Yossi, well the last couple of games his experience and attitude has shone through, he may be a winger but he’s battled back and helped defend when needed and chipped in with an odd goal or two.
You can’t help but love him can you?
I hope he stays, even if it is for just one more year; he’s a useful player to have in reserve….
Finally, thoughts and prayers go out to the family of Livorno midfielder Piermario Morosini who died in hospital yesterday after suffering a cardiac arrest during his team’s Serie B match at Pescara.
Twenty five years old, may he rest in peace……
RIP Morosini…..nothing more I can say other than our thoughts go out to his family and friends.
A clean living young man losing his life is always tragic.
On Yossi….sign him up,he has a big heart,and one made if hold.
The epitome of a professional footballer.
On Jack and Diaby……get them 100% fit and healthy,and reap the rewards next season.
Our lads have almost completed the job,so trust them do it and bring Jack and Diaby in next season.
Without downplaying their worth,we’ve done without them,so let’s have them at their peak nextseason with a decent preseason under their belt.
Yes,the old cliche is true,they really be like new signings.
Sorry,Yossi has a heart MADE OF GOLD.
As for PHW , I would not be unhappy should he go rather than Wenger , I still believe that we need a more positive vibe to come from the board room . Whenever he talks the air of complacency comes through and this little diatribe just says really that the boartd are content with the way things are.
RIP Morosini , so soon after Muamba .
Morning all, nice one Rico.
Yes a very sad story, 25 years old life does not seem fair at times, my sympathys to his family.
Now i know i may rankle with many fans about Yossi staying, i understand that he may stay with us perhaps for another years loan as i would be suprised if Wenger would buy a player of that age, but i have to say that with the statements that Hillwood and Wenger have made, makes me question if Yossi is worth the trouble. If we are going all out to win the premier next year and lets say Wenger buys new additions why would it help us to keep Yossi, as we have to remember if we loan him he will be unavailable for the Chelsea home and away games also if we were to come up against Chelsea in CL FA cup and CC he would not be available either. Personally although i like Yossi i have to say that i would prefer somebody that can play and help us in all our matches as i believe that points make prizes, i can only see one answer to this problem we have to get Yossi on a free from Chelsea or we send him back, i don’t believe Chelsea would ever include him back into their team so the question has to be asked. Chelsea would have to give him up or try and sell him i think we could get him free.
Morning all….
I think Yossi will stay, can’t see the Chavs doing anything in the summer other than spending, Yossi wouldn’t get a look in there….
Steve,your comments don’t rankle me at all.
I should’ve included that we should buy him at the right price.
Enthusiasm is a massive influence on a side,and apart from Yossis other attributes,this is the one attribute you just can’t buy.
of course WEnger will stay. He’ll never find another club that will pay him 7 Mill salary, plus he will be kicked upstairs to apply the same business model and wreak more havoc
I reckon we’d get him very cheap…
You guys seen that we are set to loan Fabianski out next season, that can’t be right, his contract expires doesn’t it?
Good Post here:
http://le-grove.co.uk/2012/04/15/arsenal-fans-what-would-you-prefer-two-cups-or-champions-league-football/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=arsenal-fans-what-would-you-prefer-two-cups-or-champions-league-football
you old cynic alan 😉
Alan,will Arsenal EVER find a manager who has such a positive and lasting influence on the club???
Didn’t think so.
Initially perhaps, Scott, but 6 years and a total change in philosophy and practice has failed
Taxi fir Mr Wenger!
for
Potter,
i can see PHW retiring from his post very soon, and Stan getting his own men in….
unless usmanov is still planning on making a move….
Alan,his youth policy is producing now.
It was always going to take 8 to 10 years.
Morning all. Just watching Sunday Supplement on SS and it is absolutely staggering how dumb Matt Lawton and Henry Winter are. Asked by Bison Head about the Balotelli incident last week I couldn’t believe how unformed and I’ll considered their arguments were. They had their facts wrong and were tongue tied because they were trying to make it up as they went along. Lawton in particular is a deeply unimpressive thinker who hasn’t got a clue about the sport that he makes his living from. Steve Bates is the only one who seems to have given the refereeing and punishment situation any thought at all when it is one of the most pressing issues in the English game today. Winter is so limp it is ridiculous. I think he is in love with Alex Ferguson.
youth policy only works when local boys grow up to play with their local club, like the old days. Now, the billionaires buy premierships and you gotta keep up with them
Sadly the youth support in the modern billionaire’s games is nil
rico says:
April 15, 2012 at 9:48 am
you old cynic alan 😉
you mean ” ageing” 😀
Rico….champ league tootball everyday
wenger will stay…where else would he go and will not be sacked…..PHW is a muppet….maybe he dont know we are still going trophyless this season
Think about it.
Employ a youth policy…..how long does it take???
You cant use 15 year olds….they’re already trained.
You use 8-10 year olds.
This gives you 10 years to mould them into Arsenal players.
Do the math guys….its bloody simple,but too difficult if you’re looking for negatives!!!!!!
I’m gobsmacked that people over complicate this theory,but then,most are TRYING to denounce it.
Typical.
exactly KC
Scott…….do u wanna tell us that AW is irreplaceable
Morning Adam,
They seem to have a very different approach than the SS’s panel yesterday, each of which were horrified by the tackle on Song, and more so over how Balotelli went unpunished…
Even Jeff Stelling was outraged…..
😆 alan
CL for me too kc, i know we want trophies but as Pedro points out, at the cost of CL footie as it seems likely for liverpool, how on earth do we as a club attract better players, or keep the ones we have?
Alan,please explain Wilshire,Frimpong,Aneke,Afobe…….
Failures…….really???
I agree they need to be topped up with purchases,but why can’t you agree they can be a positive??
Oh,and Citeh have a youth squad of over 100.
How do you explain that?
Even the billionaires realise they’re not an endless cash supplier.
Scott…..we had 71 players at arsenal…..the youth policy should be done away with…..good potentials but they hardly make it…..and we keep buying kids….youth killing youth
Scott, you fail to understand a kid living in the Arsenal area won’t get a run, and some foreigner will, A foreigner who will sod off with a better offer
Rico….when last did we attract better players and keep our best players
KC,so you think Wilshire isn’t worth it????
Come on,look beyond your negative thoughts and open your eyes.
If you can say you’re disappointed we bought the Ox,a kid,then honestly,your opinion is a total waste of space!!!!!
Argue that point,or concede…..your call.
Rico, plenty of players in the EPL. Local trophies for me
Alan……spot on mate…..and when the kids fulfill ther potential….they will then realise that we are a trophyless club and that they are greater than our club…..off to barca and co
Morning Alan, you are a tough old cookie, I am not saying your wrong as i have said similar in the past. Wenger is like marmite you either like him or loath him, but we cannot forget that for i5 years he has kept us in the top four, maybe the last six or seven years we have not won anything and i know that rankles the likes of you and me, but i honestly dont believe any new manager taking over from Wenger would ever be given multi millions to buy players. Wenger is not the man to blame in my opinion we have very wealthy owners and the club are not short of a bob or two but they seem to be content with not dishing out their personal fortunes or the clubs to buy a winning team. Any youth policies we have in place will never produce all that is needed for a profesional club to keep winning trophies we would always have to buy but having a youth policy in place certainly helps . Wenger may as you say have many faults i don’t deny that but he is a fantastic all rounder and i am sure he has had his finger in all of Arsenals pie’s and although short of trophies we have got a fantastic club with fantastic supporters i am proud to be a gooner and i’m glad we have Wenger for the time being 🙂
Scott, the youth is not from Man City. It’s from everywhere. What about locals juniors
Alan,you fail to understand that a kid growing up around Arsenal usually isn’t good enough.
You whinge about Wenger not spending money,then complain he BUYS kids who are better than the locals!!!!!
Please explain.
ANYONE GOOD ENOUGH GETS THEIR CHANCE.
Kc, i thought that when i wrote it 😉
But, TV, Sagna, RvP, Theo, Kos – there’s just a few we must keep, no CL, and maybe they would think twice….
I’m with Scott here about the kids, if they are good enough they will get their chance, Jack has shown the way, it’s down to others to prove themselves..
He should not buy kids unless they are local. No one should.
All clubs should support local juniors, in fact, all foreigers should be punted out of Britain. That would lead to a more even competition
Scott….of kus wilshere worth it……u fail to see that the OX just had one epl goal and assist……had we bought mata with the money….i will forever prefer it
Alan,answer one SIMPLE question for me.
When was the last tIme an ENGLISH football team won ANYTHING???????
Don’t avoid it,just tell me.
You too KC.
Even Barcelona,the best side in the world with the best youth system in the world pulled their heads out of their arse long enough to see the best 13 year old was from another country,let alone another club.
I can’t believe how insular your thinking is.
Why alan, it’s within the rules, Wenger can buy who he likes, just as all other clubs do, just because it’s not everyones choice, doesn’t make it wrong….
I’d rather Chamberlain over Mata, ideally both would have suited us better though 😉
KC,Ox will be a much,much better purchase than Mata long term,but I am the first to admit we missed out on Mata.
How exactly does Mata fit into this debate though…..you are changing the subject to suit yourself.
Alan,I’d love to see changes made in football,as to his much you can spend and who you can buy but again,that’s another topic.
Scott…..take a look at the youth policy as it goes……train fabregas for 6 years…when he reached his potential…we sell him….then train ramsey for 10 years…..sell him and replace him with one german ersfiled
Scott…..when last had we win trophy
Rico, it’s within the rules, but I don’t like the rules. I remember years ago some bloke won a Euro court matter about the right to play in England and then the floodgates opened
Scott, local junior football has been neglected, and there’s a pool of foreigners in the EPL, narrowing the talent pool for the England selectors
Personally, I don’t give a monkey’s about intertnational football, many don’t
KC,What the fell has Cesc got to with the youth policy???
He was part of the club before the youth policy was introduced properly.
Ramsey….ten years…..mate,you’ve got absolutely no idea.
excatly KC. People fail to realize there is a business plan here for profit. Winning games is not necessary
More Arabs want to but Nott Forest now. Jesus
Scott…..take a look at our best players this season ………what do they had in common…..none is a kid albeit d GK
Alan,international football shows who us producing talented players……England isn’t.
The premier league is now recognised as the best in the world.
Funnily enough,it coincides with the massive influx of international players.
Go figure!!!!
You’re fighting a losing battle here.
Good morning Guys and Chicks of the near exploding Gunners’ Faith.
Hope you are all ok.
Could not get on yesterday. Had too much to do. And today its a day outside with the family after a morning training session.
Morosini is a very sad case. A tragic one. What you have seen is just the tip of the iceberg. Yes he died yesterday. But for him it is really rest in peace. For Morosini at the tender age of 25 years has already had some harrowing experiences. He lost his father when he was 14 and then he lost his mother when he was 16. Three years ago he lost his brother. And to top it all……he even has two other siblings with special needs. And they depended upon him.
He was a fighter. Three times he tried to rise from the ground when he was suffering his heart attack. And each time he fell again. After the third time his calvary was over.
He was a role model to many children
Alan…..funny how d arsene fans fail to see this….and blame the boards,arabs and abramvoci for our failures…..we are just a busines club….and not a winning club
cesc was part of that policy though kc, his time was up and had to go…
i’d rather a squad full of english players too alan, but things change and there is nothing we can do about it. and, i don’t believe the quality is there…
Also, looking back at some of the overseas players we have all watched, i wouldn’t want to have been deprived of watching them in red and white……
No Scott, Locals have little chance as their places are taken buy foreigners. The media and national staff have said as much. How can you prove yerself when you are ignored
KC,do you rate Ox,Theo,Szczesney,Coquelin,Gibbs……
Do you think Jack would not have featured if fit?
You bag Wenger,then say our best players are the experienced ones…..those Wenger brought in.
You’re kidding us all.
Morning devil,
Didn’t have a clue about all that Morosini has suffered over the years, such a sad story….
alan – who did you want us to sign last summer?
Be honest… 😉
Rico, just read Le Groves post, in my opinion if we dont get into CL and get the £40 million Van Persie would have been sold for many years our profits have been very good and that has a lot to do with CL money with Wengers statement that we will spend what we need to depending on our league position at the end of the season would suggest that if we were not in the top four we would have to spend big but if we are we must have a good team and don’t need to spend as much strange how that has come out at this stage of the season when we are in 3rd place. The done deals for rumoured players is a figment of reporters imagination we will do what we always do and buy cheap and sell as dear as we can, its my view that top four brings us a good return and trophies are secondary, i am just happy that we didn’t win the CC as we can still bleat that we have not won anything for seven years just to let them know we are still expectant.
SCott…..u are rating theo cos u want to win argument….are u talking about the panic buys
Okay I am going to say say something that will not go down well…
I think Mikel Arteta has been better for the team than having Wilshere for the season, and once he is fit there is no way he should be getting a place before Arteta.
Rico if they are English I’m happy. There may be a couple I’d regret
Yes Arteta has been very good
Scott……i rate them….but will they win u trophies…..absolutey NO….we need performers
You all want English players.
You all want a trophy winning side.
When will you realise the obvious…..the two do not go together?
Next,you all want Wenger to spend.
Then you want English youngsters.
Again,the two don’t go.
What do you want???
Trophies,English players,no Wenger,Wenger spending money…..
Seriously,how can you link these wishes????
You’re bloody dreaming.
Man U has shown how to win and who with
Scott, Manu play with only 4 foreigners in firsts. They could play less if they wanted
no Scott. Under the present system I want AW to spend. However, if we rid ourselves of the system and revert back, I believe support locals
Steve, you old tinker, i’m waiting to see what happens at the end of the season before i get too cynical 😉
KC,I named five players and you single one out.
Well done lol.
Now,once again,you’re being contradictory.
We need performers,but we need them English.
Fuck me,how hard is it trying to get through to you?????
Sorry Rico,but this us too bloody hard without using the F bomb.
Paul…..arteta is better…..but wenger will drop him for wilshere to continue his failed youth polishit……..i would not be surprise if we sell VP and promote afobe/wellingthon/cambpell and hear that they will be better than messi
Alan United won with an English side at a different time, I can’t see it happening again any time soon, how do you think the national team would do playing week in week out in the league?
I feel Liverpool have tried to British up their team in the last two years. It hasn’t really gone to well for them!
I do think a healthy mix is needed!
Esp,
why would taht not go down well? Arteta has been very very good and now he’s getting the goals too, he’s stayed fit most of the season and i still think there is more to come from him….
But i think Jack will be straight in next season, fitness permitting and the player to make way will be the one from Wales….
But, that is what we need, good competion in all places, keep them fighting for their place and not take it for granted…
Alan,name the 4……..you are so wrong its not funny.
De Gea.
Vidic.
Nani.
Evra.
Giggs
Valencia.
Bervatov.
Hernandez.
There is a few,but if you want to be silly,and you are,what’s their top 11???
I could do the same Arsenal,using injuries and opinion as an excuse.
Scott…..please i’m against youth polishit and not against foreigners….but i will not give denilson over 200 games
and we want AW to spend big,show us ambition and maybe win trofy or he should just fuck off
Fair point alan…
Scott, i don’t care what words you use as long as no ‘c’ one, and as long as we don’t get stroppy and be rude to eachother 😉
ESP, well, like I said, I care little for the CL. They can dip a hole and bury it as far as I care. Man U Have a basically English side
Scott twice in the last month I’ve counted them. You may find more foreigners brought up from reserves when required but Man U play constantly with a minimun foreign representaion
Lets face it guys we can argue all day long for the benefits of English or foreign players but what is quite evident is when we put Arsenal and Manchester United in comparison we have to realise one big fact and that is decisions in matches by referee’s United would be 3points less at least just in the last couple of games had the referee’s had done their jobs right they get penalties awarded for non fouls where we get decisins like Ramseys trip ok we still won but throuout a season those points add up and thats why United will always be ahead untill its sorted a team will be relegated this year by perhaps a single point and that show’s that those points matter.
I think Wilshere is a great young player, but right now Arteta is streets ahead of him.
I would love to see us go back to a 4-4-2 formation, I think if we bought M’vila that is possible, but I think we all know Wenger will never go back to the old formation.
That is what worries me about the Podolski transfer, if he buys Podolski, no doubt its to replace RVP up front..
Listen guys no need to fight! As long as we still have Cesc Fabrergas we’re golden right?! (comment cira 2010)
Exactly Steve..
Tbh, the overseas debate isn’t worth getting uptight about, nothing is going to change, it’s the way it is….
Why wouldn’t Jack cone back in?
He’s probably the best young English player on the game when fit.
Too many bloody narks that pass themselves off as Gooners.
Wenger sucks.
The board are shit.
Our team will struggle to finish mid table.
RVP will play no more than 20 games this season.
Oxlade Chamberlain for 12 million….typical bloody Wenger.
Arteta…..a cheap arse replacement for Cesc.
Nasri….how did we let him go?
Jenkinson….who the hell is he?
Why doesn’t everyone admit to how many of these comments that agreed with 6 months ago.
Don’t be honest now….
Esp, i disagree there, Podolski is to replace chumuck… RvP is going nowhere….
Scott From Oz says:
April 15, 2012 at 3:27 am
Merlin,
Read back to anything I’ve ever written.
Yes,after Old Trafford I declared we would finish top 4……I stayed true to Arsenal,but could also see the reasons,ans actually put my money where my mouth js.
Yes,18 months ago,I declared Koscielny would be a world class defender.
Yes,I believe you should stop looking at facts and figures,and actually watch football games,as they are NEVER,EVER WON ON A SPREADSHEET!!!!!!!
You have little,if,any feel for the game,and I’m sorry,but that’s obvious in your posts.
Panic buys…..5 players signed on the last day,4 of which have been fantastic and been a MAJOR REASON we have come from behind 4 games in a row to win,due to the experience they brought to the squad.
You think Wenger is lucky…..you are a hypocrite,as you waffle on about statistics when things go wrong,and then credit lady luck when things go well.
Talk about contradicting your “beliefs” ,or are they only beliefs when it suits???
Statistics should tell even you that Van Persie’s run of injuries would stop eventually,but I guess that’s lady luck too.
Maybe it was BAD LUCK that caused the injuries,but no,Merlin will choose to blame Wenger and statistics for that.
Explain to us all again how when we play badly its Wengers fault,but when we play well its lady luck.
Then,after that,explain how its bad luck (for them) when Chelski,Spuds and the Dippers to go bad…..you blame our manager when hinge go awry,but lady luck when other clubs fail????????
You are caught up trying to justify your own falsehoods and misinterpretations to simply give credit where credits due.
Stick to your spreadsheets and let us watch football games.
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Earlier last year, I had posted an article here that we can win the title and be Top-4…..even after that 8-2 mauling.
I can never forget that Feb 2008 spectacular collapse when fans were begging him to buy in January 2008 with Van Persie, Theo, Rosicky, et al out injured..and Kolo and Eboue leaving for ANC…..we were 5 points ahead of ManU..going to 8 points if we beat BRUM……..the rest is history.
Yes, he is a hypocritical snake-oil salesman…fooling fans all the time bits of “white lies”..liek during Euro2006..”I going to watch a few players…with an open chequebook…”…and ended up saying no players wortehd buying..
And how about that infamous stakeholder meeting where he was grilled by fans…coming out later with a statement..”Real tlaking to him….”..then saying..”..we will win a trophy wihtin 2 years…”…..
..and before he signed that 3-year contract saying..”..I don’t know whether I wil stay..I will wait..the players (performances) have to convince me to stay…..and if I can bring this team further…I will leave it in with a firm foundation for other to carry on…”
I chose this moment when we are on the up and looking to be 3rd to write this feeling……and not when we are down in the dumps……that is the degree of feelign I have for Arsneal FC, and will not put my boots into Wenger when he was down in August/September 2011……..
And yet I had posted that he is the best – and the only one – that can dig us out of the pits he had put the team into in 2011…and he just did that….
Every team will have a blip, it is just a matter of how you managed then and attentuate them..
WHy is ti under Wenger that since 2004/05 we always have a “Horrendous Injury List” that always derailed our season, in fact every season including this season?
WHy is it that since 2010/11 season that Cesc had made known to him his desire to elave fro Barca, and an unhappy Cesc stayed on for one more injury-wrecked season – and sicne 2010/11, Wenger had not made an attempt to find a repalcement for him…only hoping to do another “Cesc 2004/05″ by using ‘Ramsey 2011/12” which is also oen of the primary reason for our dreadful 2011/12 start?
Why isn’t Wenger tough enough to force Cesc to stay on where his cotnract expires only in 2015/16?
Redknapp did that to Modric, refused to allow him to leave…
Mancini did that to Tevez….
And he allowed Cesc to leave……even though he knew that Nasri will refuse to sign a new contract….
And yet you are fooled by all those glitters and stardust of that 7-wins-in-succession run, overlooking the long-term flaws of Arsene Wenger’s TEAM that can’t defend, can’t create in the middle and was literally carried to Top-4 status by one man alone…Van Persie, who for the very first time in hsi career at Arsenal, injury-free and coming into his own..
Like Cesc and Nasri, you will be foolish to believe he will stay loyal to Arsenal when knowing he is still surrounded by TEAM-MATES with potential only…and not at their peak for a few more years..which by then he will be no more playign 1st team football.
Like Cesc, he will be disenchanted and leave.
WHy should he stay knowing he will not win silverware….plus earning more in Europe (with X’mas break as well!)?
When Cesc stayed in 2010/11, it was with an understanding that Wenger will buy to strengthen the TEAM. Did Wenger strengthened the team did? Instead he said “his squad is strong enough to win the title..”
And did he strengthen the squad in August 2011? Back to his old self, sniffing bargain and only believing “his squad is strong enough to win the title..”
I reiterate, he is still the only one, the best one in fact, to see us through this transitory period to rebuild a new team for the next two seasons into a title-contender by 2013/14 season..PROVIDED HE CAN KEEP THE SQUAD TOGETHER WITH THEM FULFILLING THEIR POTENTIAL..plus 2 or 3 buys to strengthen the weak links in Defence, Midfield and Attack.
But I don’t see this happening, but with Arsenal losing their marquee players every season, with Wenger buying 10 to 15-million bargains, believing in his youngsters to retain Top-4 status every season…and of course, perpetually whingeing every year on ‘financial doping”……whingeing that he boxes to QUeensbury Rule in a MMA contest…..
Face it, Wenger will never change and retain his purist’s stance of building from within, from Hale End Academy to build HIS TEAM..whereas more pragmatic managers at ManU, ABu DHabi City, CHelski, Liverpool, Tiny Totts..will continue to spend to buy expereinced players to win trophies and challenge for the title.
We got lucky with Cesc, who carried the TEAM to retain out Top-4 status.
This season, we got lucky with Van Persie, and with Rosicky at his best in Feb/March 2012 when we needed him…..
And this season is not pan out yet…as with 5 matches to go….we still can drop points at Stoke and CHelski….and it will be foolish to beleive that we can walk over Wigan….
Why? Just look at the complacency displayed after 2-0 up at Wolves…..exactly liked we played against Villa when 2-0 up and swithce doff there after. Where is the ruthlessness displayed by the likes of ManU, ABu DHbai City and – and even Tiny Totts -taking apart weakened opponents? Don’t we even learned from QPR?
WTF Wenger doing on the bench when the TEAM switched off after 1 minutes?
My prediction?
The Race for Top-4 isn’t over yet. There are still more twists and turns like “ManU losing 1-0 to WIgan” scenarios as we are still inconsistent and complacency lacking killer isntinct. I will only beleive if we beat wigan and Chelski in our next 2 games…
I see omplacency and will nto surprise moi with WIgan grinding out a 0-0 result at Emirates tomorrow…
Next season..2012/13?
With Wenger, we will finish out of Top-4. Chelski, Liverpool and yes, even Tiny Totts wil not repeat the saem error of judgement as this season.
With Wenger, it will be another summer of discontent, a perennial affair every summer,…and perhaps a repeat fo that August 31, 2011 panicky buy again?
Wenger is in a transitory period for teh enxt 2 seasons…and again, it will nto surprise moi he Leaves in summer 2012 on “mutuaL AGREEMENT”…
Scott?
You are too judgemental as you know moi not.
By reading my positing fro a few months, you can judge moi personally???
perhaps if you care to read all my positings at Arsenal Times since 2003…..you can judge moi better.
Isn’t youusing STATISTICS to judge moi?.. 😆
In debating over here, I will never judge any poster, merely attack their postings.
Scott, try to separate personel from their postings.
It wil make debating over ehre a beter place.
Morning all,
Depends what you call a trophy !
But will he enjoy sitting on the bench like our boy Chumpak did?!
Scott I still would have liked to have kept Nasri to be honest, who would you pick him or Ramsey?!
Makes you think what RVP could have done for the club if he’d been injury free!
This argument makes me laugh. And laugh out loud.
I do not blame those who want England to do well. You are all Englishmen and rightly proud of it. That makes you all good and great chaps.
HOWEVER, and that is one with big capitals. Unless English clubs chucked out all the useless British managers with the dinosaur mentality regarding tactics and techniques then all will remain the same. Have you ever seen the qualifications of spanish/italian/french/belgian/german coaches with youngsters? Do you know that Barca alone has a UEFA ‘A” coaching licence coach with a group of 12 players for every age group under 13 years. UEFA ‘A” mates. Not even a club coach certificate. Do you know that in SPain alone there are over 8000 Uefa ‘A’ coaches helping out with kids? Do you think that Stuart Pearce would be considered within the above mentioned countries? How do do you think would Hughes fare in the above mentioned countries? Mclaren was crap in the national set up and in Holland he has been found out.
Mates, I suggest you go and watch some of the coaching that goes on with kids in England. And then go to Italy or Belgium. And then compare the difference. I have been lucky to attend coaching diplomas in Scotland, coaching sessions with kids in Italy and believe me they opened my eyes.
A nation like England should have a team that stands with the top two or three every year. The reality is that it cant. And for the simple reason that those coming through are not good enough. I will say this and say it with capitals…………IF THEY ARE GOOD ENOUGH NO MATTER HOW MANY JOHNNY FOREIGNER COMES TO ENGLAND THEY WILL PLAY.
And please remember that Jack is only under 21 years while Arteta is 29. Rosicky is over 30. So who do you think will make way? Arteta wont but Thomas will. And Thomas will stay to help rotation.
So please do refrain before comparing players who are not the same age. And remember……the best ones always rise to the top. unfortunately the rest will not. And if they are English and they are good they will rise.
the board are shit. AW is an economist that is why they hired him
Podolski won’t come, certainly not to play 2nd fiddle to RVP and we know AW is too stupid to consider 4 4 2 again
Scott, the board are crap 😉
Alan,you’ve counted them,but they’re incorrect.
Arteta was rated by plenty as a two bit replacement for Cesc.
My opinion is its better to have Arteta wanting to be here than Cesc who was not sure.
Paul,I am hoping Podolski coming,if it happens,allows RVP to play in the hole.
ESP
fair point……but
1. We are not buying m’villa…..frimpong and coquelin will be better(AW) or rather wenger will play afobe there(as he had played ramsey in d wings and ashavin up front) and diaby will be a new signing
2. Wenger will never revert back to 442….that means that 443 was a wrong choice…..wenger never believe he is wrong
3. i share ur fear too…poldi to replace RVP……
Hope i will be proved wrong
Don’t think he’ll be a bench warmer, he’ll compliment RvP, give us depth up front and allow rotation without upsettting the balance..
Also, we need players to be challenging for a starting place…
Devil, the cream will always rise to the top…..
May i suggest we wait until the transfer window closes before suggesting no-one is going to sign 😉
Jeez, it hasn’t even opened yet….
I am off now mates. Hope that you have a ppositive argument here without any fights.
And as Rico said……..the cream will always rise to the top….
KC……Wenger will never revert back to 442….that means that 443 was a wrong choice……..
Er, does that mean that AW plays with no goalkeeper, or with 12 players?? because playing 443 means that either there are 11 outfield players!!!! 😉
cu mates
Laters devil, have a good day….
Merlin,how the hell would you have me judge you except using your posts????
Get serious,I don’t even know your bloody name let alone met you.
Send me your personal resume and I will review you my opinion lol.
I notice,as I’m sure everyone does,how you totally ignore my reasoning behind calling you a hypocrite……you chose not to dispute nor defend it!!!!!!!!!!
I suppose doing so would have simply proven my point!!!!!
Seriously,watch some games and forget the after match stats…..
Rico,that’s one out of ten you’ve chosen.
Not saying I disagree!!!!
Paul,give me a trier like Ramsey any day over a grub like Nasri.
Play it cool……laters
Morning Merlin and Micko, didn’t see you sneak in….
Micko, certainly not 4th….
Scott, chill, it’s sunday 😉
Didn’t Arsenal say RVP simply will not be sold?????
Didn’t you narks,you know who you are,suggest we’d sign nobody last simmer.
Oh yes,but they were panic buys,like it only takes an hour or two to sign a player.
Regardless,you ignore the facts to suit yourselves.
Don’t ever let the truth get in the way of a good Arsenal rumour lol.
Did nt arsenal said that ashavin will be going nowhere…..we will not sell our two best players…..where are they
Rico, i’d like to see a bit more cream in that case, in the last 15 years the only two outstanding players to rise up through the youth system have been Cashley Cole and Jack Wilshire.
Rico,if somebody attacks my Arsenal,by manipulating the facts,twisting the truth and simply lying,I will retaliate.
I can handle a debate,but when people give their OPINION and claim IT’S fact,then I will tear it apart.
I am still awaiting Merlins reply to my questions.
Instead,he waffles on,giving the same opinion using different words.
For the record….here it is again.
Merlin,why is it when Arsenal were poor early in the season,you blamed Wenger,yet when we’ve been good,you credit Lady Luck?
Why is it when we have been poor,you blame Wenger,but when Chelski,Spuds and Dippers were poor,you blame Lady Luck????
Wenger could solve world poverty,and you’d credit Lady Luck.
I could burn my dinner,and you’d blame Wenger!!!!!!
Don’t give us a thousand word essay Merlin,whilst avoiding the question,just bloody answer.
We all compare players to another but when we look at the big picture and i like to think we also look to the future as well Players like Wilshere who has been out almost a year we have to assume that he is not the same player he was when he eventually comes back. Arteta was i think brought for a replacement for wilshere as they knew Jack had problems that might be lengthy and Artets has been a revelation he had to engure some tough times at the start of the season we had players out and were forced to play weakened teams he came to us late which never helps and he had to get to know everybody but ultimatly he overcame it all he was never going to be a Wilshere or a Cesc but he knew given time he would be an asset to us which he has. Jack is nearing fitness again and if i was Wenger i would use him sparingly he would have to prove that he can still fullfill the hopes we all have for him but we have to also be aware that he has had a majour injury and may never reach the heights we all hoped he would only time will tell. Ramsey had his broken leg he showed great promiss before his accident and i must say has struggled a little with his form he has played much of this season but i believe he has not shone as much as i had hoped so i belive his form for next season will be much more encouraging Jack could also need a season before we see the player that we had high expectations for and if he does we will be very gratefull. the Arsenal have some absolute crackers in the squad and i believe with just a few more we could be great for the unforseeable future we are aproaching some very good years and i believe that it won’t be very long before we start hearing that Arsenal have done it the right way and this is how all clubs should be managed. COYG’s
KC,Arsenal didn’t say that.
Wenger said we couldn’t consider ourselves a big club if we sold them.
You’re strike rate is worse than Andy Carrolls!!!!!!!
Wenger was wrong.
You,again,are wrong.
Micko,
totally agree there, more should be coming through…
jack must have been the exception to be given his chance so young, all the others who we ‘think’ might may the grade are on loan.
makes me wonder just how many coming through the youth really are good enough?
We are all just debating our opinion Scott, just not in just a fiesty way….
Manu Petit is on goals on sunday, his view is quite interesting….
Brilliant post Steve.
A pity its wasted on some!!!!
good comment steve, i truly believe we will get just 2/3 really good additions in june….
Again Rico,a debate is one thing,but ignoring the facts to prove your point are another.
Frimpong,Coquelin,Szczesney,Gibbs…..dud they fall from the sky?
catch you all laters Scott take it easy son were all Gooners mate. 🙂
Scott, i think wenger did say he wouldn’t sell nasri… but once the club realised citeh had tapped him up, they got the right offer and suggestion is, stan stepped in
Steve some are more solid than others though.
Rico,I’m not so sure on Nasri.
Though,Nasri did more tarting around than any player in history…..in the name if trophies,of course lol.
Best off without him.
three of those were bought Scott, they didn’t come through at afc from really young…
Rico,do you think 2 or 3 are enough?
Scott…..these are kids with potential….u talk as if they had done or achieve any fuck…..that a player is talented does not mean that he is a great player……u had name ur players…..let me name mine……denilson.hoyte,vela,jet,freeman,watt,lansbury,……where are they????????
Rico. Is Petit’s hair still soft and luxuriant?
But at what age Rico???
Buying a 17 y.o. surely comes under a youth policy.
After all,when Wenger bought Ox,he was labelled “another kid” by most,as was Jenkinson.
As I keep saying,facts are distorted to suit peoples arguments.
Find one solitary person anywhere who admits they suggested Ox was a bad signing.
I’m telling you,reading dozens of different forums and blogs,probably 10% of people were happy at the time.
3 really good ones Scott, yes – and then a keeper….
Frimpong on scott list…..football is not twitter……how many games had he play….what has he done…he got passion.loyalty,commitment…..does that suddenly make him a great player…..gibbs……6 consecutive match does not make him a roberto carlos…..szcznezy….he will become great whether at AFC or not….coquelin….have high hope on him…..
It is Adam, he talks a lot of sense too….
Great points Coach…
I’d be interested to know the qualifications of the coaches at Arsenal re; the youth.
Afternoon all.
SteveyP, you could have saved yourself a load of typing by just saying ‘we are a model club’ it works for Gazidis everytime.
for me, youth policy means kids like jack, not an overseas player bought in, the ‘home grown’ rule is stupid imho
Afternoon AK, welcome to the mad house 😆
KC,you carry on as if experienced players you sign are guarantted to succeed.
How long have you been watching football????
A youth policy at best may produce half a squad.
Have you ever heard of Barcelona KC???
Not a bad little side.
Their youth squad has been in operation for a few decades.
Even Barcelona top up with purchases.
Decades to 8 years.
Hundreds of millions to tens of millions.
Can you fill in the gaps KC?
Do you dare to???
Ox……one epl goal.one assist…..i had said it before and will say it again…..buying hazard/gotze would had been money well spent……….i know scott is hoping for us to sign none and promote myiaki
Scott…..experienced players does not guarantee trophy………but KIDS guarantees no trophy
well ours hasn’t produced half a squad 😆
kc, the right mix goes a long way though…..
and thats what we are starting to get, 3 mature outfield players this summer and we’ll be on a roll 😉
Nevermind calm down Stan
Calm down Scott.
Afternoon Rico.
Scott sounds like Merv bowling a few bouncers. 🙂
Kc….give me your thoughts on the following players.
Ox,Szczesney,Koscielny,RVP.
Now,tell me your thoughts on Ox 8 months ago,Szczesney 16 months ago,Koscielny 12 months ago and RVP for the last five years.
Let me guess,you just knew they’d come good!!!!!!
Kc, you have gone into spam again, the c word is not for here!
Adam… Henry Winter.
Posh accent.
Works for the Telegraph and knows fcuk all.
He does AK, i have suggested Scott chills a bit, he’ll give himself a hernia…..
Barca does not play the kids regularly like we do….. And they dont hesistate in selling the underperformers…….but we play ramsey at midfield….found out that he is not cesc….put him to wing…he is till not pires…. we will see him partnering vermalean
3 mature outfield players……….lansbury,vela and afobe…….arsene knows the best
Scott……hahaahahahah……..szcznezy and koschienly…….i would never forget the carling cup drama….had u?????????????????????
KC, give me your thoughts on Squillaci, Chamakh, Denilson, Park and Almunia.
Scoot….. 0X,koschienly and RVP proved me wrong……..but i know sqilaki,park,sylbestre,chamug are not good for us
Rico,ours hasn’t been going decades.
KC,where the hell have I said I hope we sign noone???
Stop acting the goose.
And who Is this Myakii….a true Gooner like me should know this!!!
We do have a good kid coming through,Ryo something or other…hopefully he can make the grade.
AK……Merv has nothing on me.
I’m sick of defending Arsenal on Arsenal forums!!!!
Experts,self professed of course,blast Wenger and the board for not spending on one hand,whilst holding Citeh in contempt for trying to buy a championship…..imagine a Citeh fan jumping on knocking our club,you’d all be up in arms,bloody hypocrites.
We were 17th,they whinged.
9 wins from 10,running 3rd,they whinge.
Why do they bother following such a pitiful club???????
Personally, i am delighted to see Gibbs staying fit and getting a run of games.
The more he has played the better he has looked.
As with Ashley Cole, who was also criticised for his defending when he first got into the team, i see Gibbs learning his trade. And as long as he stays fit, i can see him becoming a top class left~back.
You want mine Micko 😉
I suppose i am guilty of being too long in the tooth.
You see, ever since i became an Arsenal fan, it was club policy to have a youth development scheme and to produce our own players.
THIS IS NOT A NEW THING.
IT DID NOT START WITH WENGER.
MICKO…………hahahahhahah……..maybe it was Rico that signed them….not AW
See KC,that’s the difference between me and the mindless supporters such as yourself…..I look past the Carling Cup and see that one second doesn’t make a career.
You’d have been happy had we sold the pair of them after that,and now be whinging that Wenger let go of more top players!!!!!!
AK,Gibbs WILL BE A GREAT LEFT BACK,but most want him gone.
I think I already know rico you one armed bandit you.
AllezKev, yes, why develop a foreign kid. Youth dev policy is a con and fraud
So i am patient with our young players.
I enjoy seeing them evolve from Apprentices, Trainees, Scholars or whatever they will be called next year, into 1st team players. The major difference now, is that the standard is higher now than it was 20 or 30 years ago.
Think your find most just want Gibbs to stay fit for a season Scott not gone.
AK,you must admit its been more focused over the last 8 years or so,and with good reason.
Arsenal don’t wish to spend 100 million a year.
I wish we had though,because then we could listen to the experts telling us we are going well,like Liverpool lol!!!!
Scott…..im sure u said that denilson will be a great player….did i said that they should had been sold…….spending is not buying league……guess what….Almighty 8arca still spends
I don’t know Micko,plenty think he’s no good.
AlanMP, maybe the foreign kids are more proffessional, maybe they are less focused on buying a sportscar or a £10,000 watch, that’s maybe the difference between Jack and say JET. They may share a talent, but it’s what they have between their ears that counts???
Scott………had you heard of chamack,hoyte,squillaci,park,alumnia???????
Me too AK, he’s a better defender than Santos imho…
Laters Gooners, enjoy your Sunday, we can all have a good laugh at Totteringham later.
Its not a spelling competition Scott, you know as well as i did who kc meant….
cheeky kc, me sign that cack, although i admit i thought Chamakh would come good, got that so very wrong didn’t i 😉
Liverpool clearly spent their money on wrong players……man citeh spent….won fa cup….still in d title race…..but we were out of d title race far far far september
Ak, many a foreign kid perhaps does not what to return to the third world shite hole he came from. God knows why not he could live like a King
😆 Micko, have a good one cherring the chavs on 😉
KC…..your imagination is pure gold.
Or is it simply you are a bloody liar.
Denilson……..there,just for you….the first time I have typed his name on this topic,let alone suggested he’d be a great player.
If you prove otherwise,I shall retire from HH gracefully.
If you can’t,well,I guess an apology is too much to ask.
The one thing I did say was that even Barca top up by buying players,but heaven forbid you should actually read what I post.
More fun simply to blindly reply,I guess!!!!
If the Kids are good enough, then they will get a chance.
But we source Kids from all over the World, therefore the standard is higher and more difficult.
Where i do agree with AlanMP, is that the Academy is run like a business. Almost as if it’s self~financing.
Not a con though Alan. It is what it is in a changing world where the EPL is the biggest show in town.
Mixed blessings?
Maybe???
AK, thats a very good point you make their, look at Bothroyd, Pennant, JET – all had the game, they just couldn’t conform to the afc standards, tough eh, on your way….
How much did the dippers spend??
£100M?
If Wenger had all that money and spent it, would he actually sign any one of the players the dippers did??
The only one who has really made an impact is Enrique and i’d rather him in our squad than Santos..
Suarez, good player, but a cheat….
AK Mixed blessing indeed. The youth policy is international. It should be national developing local kids
Rico,my contempt for KC’s spelling reflects my feelings for his knowledge of the club.
Everyone,but everyone recognised how good Ryo is,but KC thinks he’s a nothing,not worth of playing for the club.
Yes,everyone is entitled to an opinion,but posting it here leaves it open to conjecture and responses…..
Rico…….i agreed….we got it wrong sometime….but someone is there…earning 7m and getting it wrong for the past 7 seasons
That’s true Alan, but we source most of our foreign kids from wealthy countries like France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Japan, Holland.
Many British kids don’t come from rich backgrounds and they still wank away the wonderfull opportunity they’re given.
As i said, it’s what they have between their ears…
Scott, but that is not your place to judge someones knowledge, come on, you know that’s cheap…
Its a footie blog, not a place where comments get judged and submitted for a grading….
Scott……….i clearly meant that ryo is not ready……when did i said that he should or any super star should be sold
Kc, yes, but, we can’t forget that some players look great in one league/country but then when they get to the PL, they can’t adjust, it’s a tough old league…..
KC,Denilson……..show me,please.
Bothroyd,Pennant,Jet……none have proven to be any sort of loss.
Rico, imagine these Kids. 15/16 year old. Moving to a foreign country. Alien culture, food, language.
How many of us would have up~sticks & left home at 15..?
So to do that, these kids must have something about them.
A hunger.
A detirmination.
A focus to suceed.
Maybe our kids are soft.
Could you imagine Bentley, JET, Pennant, moving to Germany or Italy at 15..???
They’d miss their Mum too much….
We don’t know if Ryo is going to be ready for a season, same with Campbell IF he gets his Visa, same with Afobe etc etc…
Thats the problem with young players, Ox is different, he’s built like an out house and has the strength to cope, similar to Jack…
With you there AK, i can’t think of many englishman who would or have ever made that kind of move, i wouldn’t either.
I do think that’s why a lot prefer to join us, i think they are looked after well off the pitch and their families know they are safe…
Maybe not Scott but that’s because they have the wrong attitude, had they stayed and worked a lot harder they may just have made it…. Tough though….
Alan, your stopping me working…. 🙂
I’ve gotta go.
Scott you should meet a blogger called Will.
I know you would hit it off. 😀
Rico, good luck in controlling all your naughty boys….
Offski now.
Exactly Rico…….kid are just talented player…….they are not great players…until they prove it
lol Sorry AK
virtual insanity. Footie blogs 😀
😆 re Will AK, go steady up there….
KC….Denilson………have you got anything but your imagination???
Do not make accusations in an attempt to belittle people that are based on pure lies.
Rico,Ryo is doing a great job at Bolton.
It’s not Arsenal,but its the Premier League….can’t wait to see him back.
Show me where I can find Will so I can judge for myself.
Rico. It all seems a little feisty on here today. Did you put something in the virtual water?
Kev. I think you let Henry Winter off too lightly with your savage judgement of him.
Ryo wasn’t given much chance to show his stuff with us
Adam,I am always prepared to be judged on my comments,not lies.
I shouldn’t be condemned for that.
Alan,he’s 19….plenty of time.
He will be a star for the club.
Don’t blame Wenger for not playing him,be grateful he signed him.
It is a bit fiesty Adam, goodness knows why though, always prefer to be calm myself but there you go…..
He is doing well at Bolton and i wouldn’t be surprised to see him stay there another season as long as they stay up….
Rico. It must be PMT ( Pre-match tension) I think.
Rico,you know why.
Do you liked being lied about???
As I thought,KC has disappeared rather than admit his lies.
On Ryo,I reckon,Wenger will try him early next season and then make call…he may go out in the second half of the season.
😆 Adam
Will? Ah, I remember him well.
Tbh Scott, i don’t take it all to heart…
i have my own views and like reading others too, as i always say, our views are only that, nothing is very often factual….
So do i……..
Rico, he lied,and was allowed to get away with it.
Don’t ever,ever ask me to take people shitting on my name lightly.
I will argue til I’m blue in the face if I believe I’m right,but I will never lie about someone to prove my point.
I’m glad its funny!
Funny???
It’s all a matter opinion Rico. I mean you like Ramsay on the left and I prefer him in goal. There are no rights or wrongs here, just varying levels of insanity.
Of opinion.
That will only ever be the case Adam, unless one of the board or Wenger pops on and comments one day 😉
I say get Will back to restore some good old common sense and bring order to chaos. ☔
I say, lets move on 😉
Spoken like a true leader Rico. I agree. Onward and upwards.
Scott…..im here….i did nt disappear
Who’s watching the little semi-final later then?
Are u watching…im just interested in the result….injuries and some red cards
At the moment I am watching The Thing From Another World. Later I will watch Gareth Bale in the semi-final.
Ah yes Adam, you and Will had a ‘thing’, so to speak. 🙂
I used to think that Henry Winter was a serious football writer. I suppose i got taken in by his poshness. Thinking that an educated man as him must think deeply on the game.
How wrong could i be…
He’s just as big a bullshitter as Martin Lipton et al.
But with a Public School accent.
He comes from the Manchester area, so work it out…
Scott must have gone to bed…
I don’t know how he does it. He’s gonna make himself ill if he doesn’t get more kip.
kc, i’ll prob watch, not like i can cut the lawn 😉
Adam, call me sad, but i’m watching bgt2 🙂
Nor do i AK, nor agag, she doesn’t sleep much either….
Rico, haven’t you got a Strimmer..? 😀
😆 AK
Afternoon gooners back like a bad penny 🙂 i see we are still arguing amongst ourselves, makes me smile really. the leaders of the league have had to call back an old retiree in paul scholes to play alongside another 38 year old shagger Giggs to tru and win them the premier league, the other team in front of us has spent 2 hundred million on old Arsenal players and nicked the rest with huge wages and we have a team lying in 3rd place that has probably cost us less than 50 mill and a lot of that was offset by our selling, remember Chelsea spending millions and ending up with an old team in 3 years that won’t happen to us and we are arguing among ourselves get a grip guys we aint doing to bad in my humble opinion
yeah for Steve 😉
Rico. BGT2 and Benidorm?
Benidorm has finished Adam, sad times 🙁
off for a bit, back later….
Adam, it’s your fault; too much chili in the omelettes! 😉 I am kidding. I am kidding.
Boo, rico!! Jack’s a tough one; he’ll come back roaring. Yossi’s been a good loan deal. I like that he steadies the ship.
Hi, AK! How’s the traffic?
I always get here just as everyone has other stuff to do. I’ll make myself a mango smoothie. Back in a bit. 🙂 🙂
RIP, Morosini. Devil, that is sooo sooo sad. 🙁 🙁
agag. How is the weather in Manilla?
rico says:
April 15, 2012 at 11:19 am
Devil, the cream will always rise to the top…..
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Afternoon Rico.
You know, cream and scums always rises to the top… 😆
As an Arsenal supporter, one’s must know that no manager is greater than the club.
And in debating, one’s must separtae criticism of Wenger from criticism of Arsenal FC. No Arsenal fan will criticse Arsenal FC, but they have the right to criticse or to detest the manager or the Board.
Recalled the days when public demonstrations drove Terry Neill out of Arsenal FC?
Sadly all over Arsenal forums, fans are starting to equate Wenger = Arsenal and Arsenal = Wenger…as if Arsene Wenger is greater than Arsenal FC.
There is a divide now amongst Arsenal supporters as I belong to the camp that detested Arsene Wenger now..no matter how much good he do…but eventually, he is not the right man to bring Arsenal FC to the next level, i.e. being a marquee club in the same class as Real or Barca or ManU….and after The French Spine we reverted to a 2nd tier European club…just as before Arsene Wenger arrived in September 1996.
Remember the early 50s and 69s Rico where Arsenal FC went 17 trophyless years before 1970/71?
While we are entering that same barren era which I wouldn’t know how long it will last ..but certainly Arsenal FC will be trophyless as long as Arsene Wenger is still around at the helm.
A good study is Liverpool 80s….and where are they now?
That is, Arsenal FC has the French SPine from 1997/98 to 2004/05 where Arsenal FC won a trophy every year….taht is, like Liverpool 80s, our “French SPine Golden Era” is over…and we entering a trophyless “Dark Age” under Arsene Wenger.
We all know what COmolli did for 18 months at Liverpool FC.
Tell me, what did Grimandi did for Wenger and Arsenal FC since 2006/07? Was Cesc our “last big hit” in the post-French Spine Era?
COntrast that to ManU where Arsenal FC was matching ’em step-by-step and slugging with them toe-to-toe for titles and trophies from 1997/98 to 2004/05.
Despite a crippling 590-mil debt (contrast to our 20-year 290-mil mortgage bond) loaded onto them by Glazer Fmaily….yet they managed to buy 30-mil plus players, increased tehri revenues, eanring 50-mil+ profits annually……and from 2005/06 onwards managed to rebuild and to overcome those Chelsea Rent-Boys bought by Abramovich to bring home the titles and silverwares.
Ferguson has also a superb Youth Academy bringing youngsters into the team…..and nto afraid to spend and buy youngsters and marquee players as needed.
We were on-par with ManU from 197/98 to 2004/05….us with a 390-mil EMirates debt…adn they with a crippling 790-mil debt which Glazer Family loaded onto the club..
Arsenal FC and ManU started from the saem datum in 2005/06…they with 790-debt…us with 390-mil Emirtmirates .
Why then ManU advanced so rapidly out of Arsenal FC sight from 2005/06 to 2011/12 where they revenues kept increasing year-by-year winning titles and trophies with ease….a marquee club always?
Arsenal FC?
WHy such rapid decline to a 2nd-teir EUropean club..with flat revenues from footballing businesses..only saved by property development which will end this season with the last profits from QUeensland Road devleopment.
Are Arsenal fans contented Arsenal FC being a 2nd tier European club after so much promises from 1997/98 to 2004/05?
WHere even the manager spin-doctoring “successes” as “being Top-4 is like winning a trophy”?
I don’t as I expect Arsenal FC to become a marquee club by now, instead of a mere feeder club to Real and Barca..and now, even to Abu Dhabi City.
You may look upon the recent scintillating run as proof that Wenger is “the best man”..I don’t.
I see from 2007/08 to now how a proud Arsenal FC on the verge of being a dominant football force in Europe being brought down without a whimper..as just another 2nd-tier European football club….needing luck and mistakes by others to win something….
Luck?
During our “French SPine Golden Era” from 1997/98 to 2004/05..how come we don’t Football Luck sucha s Liverpol FC, winning 5 no. European Cups and CL Cups….Aston Villa winning one European CUp and Nottingham Forest winning 2 no. European Cups…..and of course ManU winning 3 no. European and CL Cups.
Hot! And humidity is generally about 70%. 😉 How’s it where you are?
In London it is bright but chilly. I have never been to the Phillipines though it has always interested me. Do you come from there?
Merlin, that’s a post in itself. 😉 I want Wenger to continue but I want him to buy and buy well. Project Youth may have been in the end an abysmal failure but it’s nothing that cannot be rectified. Our Board has to loosen the purse strings. We are inherently unable to compete with the madness of petrol money; but we must at least try.
Yes. Born and bred. 🙂 Weather here is Bangkok-like if you’ve been. 🙂 Manila isn’t the prettiest but we have great beaches down south. 😉 🙂 From backpacker’s budgets to ultraluxe splurges.
London seems perpetually cold. 😕
Arsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood has given his strongest indication yet that manager Arsene Wenger is going to remain at the club for years to come.
The Gunners boss has been under pressure this season after an indifferent start but have the opportunity to move eight points clear in third ahead of Newcastle and Tottenham tomorrow, should they beat relegation threatened Wigan.
“For him to stay longer than that would be perfect,” Hill-Wood told the Sunday Mirror. “I can’t think of anybody better to run the team.
“He has shown how much rubbish people were talking earlier this season.
“He has a young squad, with some excellent young players. He is building a young team with a great future and I am sure he would love to see them develop.
“I want him to stay for the long-term and I see no reason at all why he should want to go.”
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of course, who will want to sack a CEO of Arsenal FC that always bring home the bacon, generating revenues and profits by remaining in Top-4.
But when revenues start dropping without successes on the pitch…and sponsors and advertisers started to move away to more glamorous clubs and more successful clubs….and where you can’t attract top-notch employees (players) to drive your company to more successes……which Board of Directro in his right mind wil award another long-term contract to a CEO out of touch with hsi competitors?
Akin to rewarding non-performers like ALmunia (50,000 pw), Denilson (50,000pw)…Bendtner (52,000pw)..Arshavin (80,000pw)…Vela (50,000pw)..Diaby (50,000pw)..CHamakh (60,000pw?)..Park CY (50,000pw)….
That my friedn is called managing your company to failure with high overheads and plenty of non-performers.
No wonder Arsenal FC is having the 3rd highest salary bill…and winning f**k-all during that period…
agag. Seems worth considering for a holiday perhaps. But a long way to go. Actually, considering its geographical position, London is quite warm. Not for a Manilan girl though. Have you been here to watch Arsenal ever?
Ashley Young defies the laws of gravity and physics to go airborne once again. Another penalty at Old Trafford. Another joke.
Unfortunately, haven’t seen them play. They’re over here in a few months. Malaysia/HK are doable. 😉 I’d prefer to see them in London though. Maybe next year, although I’m probably off to somewhere else in Europe. Lol.
You’d like it the south. But it does make me smile when holidaymakers from your scountry complain of the “bloody” heat. 😀
God, to think we wanted Young… Pffft.
Sir Stevo; 2.45.
Hurrah for Steve. The voice of reason…
Another Ashley Young dive gifts the Mancs a penalty….
Podolski fails to score in a 3-0 drubbing by munchengladdbachhhh
Gazidis like Wenger. Both dud
Afternoon all 🙂
alan,
you are harsh on our manager, is he really a dud? ok its not going the best recently but what he has achieved and done for our club is remarkable….
however, now he needs to step us up and onwards again…..
Ah Princess Agag. Doing your bit for the Phillipines Tourist Board… 😀
Actually we’re having hailstones in London….
i once hoped we’d sign stephen ireland, thank goodness we didn’t – i got that one wrong eh 😉
and yes, so glad we didn’t sign Young now…. cheat…
How naive are Riley’s Boys…?
Ashley Young dives again and another penalty.
An English player diving like a continental…!!!
Who would believe it… 🙂
its a disgrace AK……
Why is he even talking about leaving???
Szczesny: I won’t leave until Arsenal win something
The Pole insists he cannot imagine plying his trade anywhere else than the Emirates Stadium in a few years’ time, and is determined to end the Gunners’ trophy drought
Wojciech Szczesny has vowed not to leave Arsenal until the club start winning trophies again.
And Szczesny, who has been one of the north Londoners’ outstanding performers this season, is determined to stay and bring back the glory days to the club.
“I can’t imagine myself in the next few years’ time playing anywhere other than here,” he said.
“In fact, I won’t move until we win something.
“Recently, one of the journalists asked me whether I have bigger ambitions than playing for the third place in the Premier League with Arsenal. God, sure I have! I look at the table and realise that is our maximum this year.
“It is seven years since Arsenal won something and it won’t change this season. But the next one? Who knows?
“I stand in front of a mirror and say to myself: ‘Damn, I’m interested in winning trophies only with Arsenal.’
“I want to be part of the team that show fans the bad times are over. I won’t leave until we achieve this.”
Merlin,
😆 re your earlier, i hope you are not implying the swampies will rise to the top, they are scum….
AK, I try to do my bit. 😉 😛 Hailstones. Oh no. Hope your car’s not gone all dented. 😕
Boo, rico!! How’s your poultry farm? 😉
Rico, Young deserves a good flogging. 😀
Boo to you agag, they are fine and dandy thanks….
Publicly in Birmingham AK 😉
Chesney needs to shush. 😉 He should think back to the game v. Man Yoo, and repay our coach’s faith in him. 😉
afternoon all
I read yesterday morosini story of his life. I didn’t post it.
Young dive like a continental? yes, because he knows well, where he is playing now.
agree agag, the lad has too much to say….
agag. Well you know us white-bodied Englishmen can’t take the heat. Look me up through Rico if you make it here and I will take you for a tortilla with butter bean purée. Don’t know about the Goat’s cheese though.
I think we all realise who is pro and anti-Wenger by now. Labouring the point with constant repetition moves the argument toward the realm of tedium and we have all been down that particular road too many times.
2-0…
what a gift from villa, 2-0 to manure…
Hi JM, very sad story of his life…
You telling me off Adam 😉
I couldn’t do that if I tried Rico. And I know you know that.
For sure you could Adam 🙂
The only thing we could ever disagree about is your insistence that Ramsay’s best position is wide left
Adam knows, that Rico knows that Adam knows, whilst Agag suspects that Wath knows that Sir Steven reckons and Dutch has an inkling that Lee has it sussed and Devil,ah i forgot… 😀
The referee’s commitee may as well present the trophy to United now don’t sod about every football fan in the worls knows that was a blatent dive the ref in prime position but he slips up he didn’t send the player off for dangerous play young looked like he was taken out by chieftan tank and that baby deserter Dwight york reckons it was a dead cert as if we didn’t know.
Kev. No-one knows better than you.
You are in good form Adam, you know i would love Ramsey to displace Ches…
AK, you forgot what 😉
We need the wigan game 🙂
Wilkins didn’t though Steve, as he said ‘young went looking for the contact’ – darn right he did…..
Off now as my wife has chained me to the cooker. Good fun today. Most of it anyway.
I know nuffink… 🙂
I will file that away for future reference, Adam. 😉 Yay!
Boo, SSP. Howdy? The refs are making every effort to ensure Man Yoo win the league. Tsk tsk.
AK has a great memory cos he’s young. 🙂
Have a good evening Adam… in your chains 😉
Hiya Agag cheating B’s they could make good olympic divers
Off for a bit, back shortly….
Come on you Chavs 🙂
How many EPL goals difference is there between RVP & Shrek???
maybe 2 or 3
droggggggggggggbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaa
Fuck me, that was a decent goal by Didier Dogshit.
Evening all…..
afternoon mates……. 😆
How are you doing Dev?
I am ok Rocky. Had a good weekend. I had two early morning training sessions one on each day and then went to a nearby village which was transformed into a mediaval village for the weekend. And we have really enjoyed it especially my son who was allowed to handle a small medieval sword and given a 5 minute lesson by one of the knights. That made his day.
The next order is………..BUY ME A SWORD. 😉
a beeb commentator……….This is typical of Spurs over the past few weeks – dominating possession but no cutting edge up front. And then going behind to the first decent attempt on target by the opposition.”
Errrr……do we know that feeling????? 😉
Evening Gooner,
I read a lot of Jeff Dunham today. A real family show. “Silence, I kill you!” “You be silent, I kill you!” Achmed The Dead Theorists.
Evening guys and gals, the chavs second didn’t cross the line, you have to feel sorry for the swampies …
Don’t you 😆 😆
Hey rocky, you have a good break??
That was never a goal……….I am laughing my arse off now.
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Sounds good Dev!
evening Rico. I actually do a little bit, The ref’s decisions lately are appalling.
2-1 …… Bale.
Lucky Chavs, Cech should be off….
serves them right Rico.
How are you Lady?? Just read this morning that you had a surgical intervention. Hope you are better. Old age by any chance? 😉
Hi devil,
you cheeky tinker, it’s nothing to do with my age, well, i don’t think it is 😉 😉
I’m very sore, but just dandy otherwise thanks….
Great break thanks Rico. Feeling pretty crap knowing I have to be up at 5.30 tomorrow for work!!
Actually glad Spuds have scored. As much as I hate them, Justice was served.
glad to hear it all went well Rico
rocky,
there have been many shockers of late, hope we don’t see any tomorrow, for either side…..
Ehhhhhhh. that’s what happens when you pump iron dear Lady!!! And the amount of push ups a day surely does not keep the doctor away!!!!! 🙂
Glad to see you are better. The soreness will eventually go.
I’d be amazed if there aren’t!
Glad your break was good, not so good about the 5.30am start though, back to reality eh….
Ade dived and Bale was offside, but ref is having a terrible game
Thanks rocky…
Iron devil, the only way i have that is by supplement 😉
whois the ref tomorrow, anyone know? Bet it’s Clattenburg….
Just not looking forward to the inevitable shitstorm I’ll be facing as soon as I get into work Rico! Hate to think of the things just left for me for when I get back! I guarantee there’ll be loads of unwanted work on my desk!!
Hope Drogba gets himself sent off.
David Luiz out of next weekend?
Come on extra~time and penalties..
Not much else Ade could have done in my opinion Dev. I’d expect everyone would have done the same
Not another long day looming rocky 🙁 🙁
i think luiz will be out AK, looked nasty…
still think cech should have been off…. not that i want the swampies to have any advantage…..
A great physical battle.
Muscle aching, thundering tackles.
This is fantastic.
Go on lads, get stuck in. :-D. :-D. 😀
Ak, you are so naughty 😉
3-1 😛 😛 😛
Ahhhhh shame….. 3~1.
Poor old Scummers.
That’ll be 6 successive FACup semi~finals they would have lost since 1991.
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oh dear……
IT JUST GETS BETTER AND BETTER…
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Wife’s now stormed out of the room in disgust!
Come on Chelski, you can get 5, maybe even 6.
Don’t ease up you Pensioners…. 😀
Malouda’s hair is rank
Oh dear, Rocky is kipping in the spare room tonight.
🙂
Twitchy’s face on the touchline, he looks like a guppy at feeding time, great stuff.
Come on, we want 6… 😀
I know AK!! Trying not to smile too much! She’s in the kitchen looking at me, while holding a Global knife in her hand!!
Not a good day for the swampies then 😆
rocky – did i forget your wife is a swampie fan 😉
she is indeed! Her old man is a VERY passionate Spud fan…. used to go to every match in the 70’s and 80’s. I know for a fact the TV would have been turned off at 3-1 in his house!
HARRY FOR ENGLAND
oops then rocky, early night for you, best stay out the way 😉
Arry for Pompey 😆
Grrrr you beat me to that ak. Harry for england. Hahahahaha. I can’t breathe. Hahahahaha,
On that note, i am off for the day guys, have a good one and catch up tomorrow…..
nighty all….
Wow, JT telling the truth for once….
Right kids, I’m off to water my new dwarf cherry tree, feed the fish, and go to bed.
Sweet dreams all, catch you at some point tomorrow
Redknapp’s tactical nous would be great for England. The man is a great motivator. Harry for England? It’s a no- brainier.
Just some of the myths that have taken a battering lately.
Dammit Goonster! You always come on just as I go!! Hope you’re well mate… Catch you soon hopefully!
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Good night Rico.
Dear oh dear. My dad and I cannot stop laughing our heads off.
Harry for England???
Dear oh dear……………
Are you laughing Goonie??? Dear oh dear. Did I enjoy that???
I am off now mates. With a chuckle and a grin which is wide as the scapa flow.
cu tomorrow morning.
http://football-talk.co.uk/62069/video-arsenals-joel-campbell-scores-stunning-winner-for-lorient/?
It’s been a tragic tragic evening…. No new Chaz n Dave song to look forward too…………
I’m devastated……………….
Wath, Ha Ha Ha.
Who could ever forget that Chaz n Dave classic.
” Tottenham Tottenham, no one can stop ’em ”
etc etc etc…
That little ditty was running thru my mind all evening, as the ball was hitting the Tottenham net… 😀
Good news.
Fergie is taking verbal pot~shots at Arsenal…
That can only mean only one thing…
That he sees Arsenal as a threat again.
Treat his comments with distain, but be happy that he’s targeting us again!
It’s been a long time…
What would we laugh at if it wasn’t for them………..??
Forever in our shadow….!!!!
He can maybe see if Wenger and the board get it right in the summer we’ll be knocking on the door again…!
I’m sure Tottenham actually exist to remind us Gooners that there is always someone.less fortunate out there.
Campbells goal was a beauty.
Ashley Young is just the scum of the earth.
Poor ole Spuds……did they really believe they’d be winning a trophy????
Wath,even I will lose faith in Wenger if he doesnt bring in Podolski,Vertonghen or players of equal ability.
On Fergie,he went months barely mentioning us,except to actually defend Wenger…….better he’s knocking us.
Merlin,you are the only person in the world who’d declare Arsenal a failed or failing busines!!!!
The biggest criticism is that the club is actually treated too much like a business,and nor enough like a football club.
Still,I’m sure your spreadsheet would justify your comments,or at least your interpretation of it.
You are letting your personal feelings on Wenger cloud all intelligent thoughts you may have.
Get over yourself,accept Wenger is the manager,and get on with life.
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