Morning All,
If you have ever sat down and thought about it, you might well have imagined it would come to this. Last season and very likely the one before that, I wrote, somewhat prematurely, that the whole Wenger era was coming to an end and all that should really be concerning the owner and the board is what comes next. But, we are told, that Stan still loves Wenger (why wouldn’t he?) and had somehow persuaded him to press on with his project despite the majority of the fans and the footballing world screaming that it isn’t working. So, seemingly emboldened by the support of a man who has lots of money but very little footballing credibility Wenger pushed ahead in attempting to create a team that played football the way that he likes it played-on a budget.
For season after season the excuse was that we were competing with clubs for whom money is completely irrelevant, clubs that lose £100 million plus a year. Wenger painted them as immoral and an affront to the concept of his brand of heavenly football played the Wenger way. I have praised Arsene on here many times, as have others, for dragging the club through these tough, financially restrictive years of the Emirates move while keeping them in the Champions League. It was and always will be a great achievement and will, in the future, define the second part of his reign at Arsenal. The first part was the creation of a great and exciting footballing culture, brilliant teams and a new approach to the game that probably did change English football. Some fans simply cannot get past this fact and will not accept that football and Wenger have changed and that this was, in footballing terms, a long time ago.
But Wenger’s problem, or one of them at least, has been that by the time the financial shackles were lifted and the club was able to compete to buy the best players the old Arsene, master of fast, flowing attacking football played by highly physical young men had long gone. He seemed so bent on his own path of bloody-minded resentment towards any club that had the temerity to use their financial clout to better the team that he seemed to become evangelical in his refusal to address the very real problems that were gradually building at Arsenal season after season. From what I could see I think he was and is absolutely determined to win a major honour his way and I can only imagine the satisfaction it would have given him to make the speech where he was able to point out how justice and good was still to found in the PL and he, Arsene Wenger, had led the charge of prudent righteousness toward victory.
It would have been nice wouldn’t it?
The thing that he seems to ignore is that, in a sense, he manages Arsenal for the fans and without them there is no club. This is also something that I doubt Stan really gets at all but might well be the very thing that drives him out eventually. I sincerely hope so because the way he has sat back and let Wenger ride this train to footballing oblivion makes him equally culpable in my eyes. But being an American businessman I am convinced he just sees us as revenue streams. The history of the club, it’s relationship to the surrounding area and the ‘core’ supporters can mean very little to a man like Kroenke.
But, as fans, we all accepted that the Emirates was going to be a financial burden for a while didn’t we? When we saw players like Chamakh and Gervinho arrive and realised just how average they were, we shrugged and sighed. We knew they were never Arsenal quality as sure as we had known that Diaby had become a permanently-injured financial liability and that a couple of seasons before, Almunia’s erratic goalkeeping had been killing us weekly. We scratched our heads when Wenger could have signed Schwartzer from Fulham but refused to because it would have cost a million quid more than he wanted to pay. Like it’s his money? The reason for this was that the vindictive Mark Hughes saw this as a chance to get one over on Arsene and Wenger, putting his own pride before the needs of the club, wasn’t going to let him do that. We saw the dead wood piling up season after season and we waited by our computers to see if we were ever going to sign quality players again. Wenger got more shirty and stroppy during press conferences and the season tickets went up just like they will again this season. He began to sign players that we would never ever see and spoke in a crazy, deluded way about team spirit and great quality, boasting that this was his best ever squad when we all knew it wasn’t. I found it embarrassing and demeaning to hear from a gentleman with so much personal pride.
So, up until a few seasons ago I would say that the majority of the fans were prepared to stick with him through a sense of gratitude for what had gone before and a respect for the fact that we were now very well set for the future in an increasingly money-driven football environment. Gratitude is after all, a noble emotion.
What has completely killed Wenger has been the last couple of years and particularly this season where he has failed miserably to address the issues and put a squad together to really challenge, which is after all, his job. Ozil is a wonderful player who could be an Arsenal great but I will never be convinced that he was a Wenger signing. To go into the season with a very average player like Giroud as essentially your only striker and then not to address that situation in January when you had both the money and the opportunity to do so falls somewhere between irresponsibility and taking the piss.
What is happening to Wenger and Arsenal is sad beyond belief to us fans who love the club deeply, but, as I said earlier it is probably an inevitability. I see no point whatsoever in him signing a new contract now, which means that he almost certainly will. He has lost the majority of the fans and the fans are the club. If we don’t qualify for the CL then so be it. It is a consequence of his own arrogance. I would play a very weak team and bow out of the Europa League early. No Arsenal supporters that I know have much stomach for a Thursday and Sunday turnout.
From the evidence I can see, Wenger is all washed up. The massive score lines we have been humiliated by this season illustrate that fact in harsh black and white. There is no way back that I can see. He has bought it on himself. I would be amazed, yet not totally surprised, if he brasses it out for another couple of seasons. He won’t change. We know that from bitter experience. Everybody and everything has it’s time. It’s the way life and the world works. The future though could be very bright under a realist who has ambition. If he’s a nutter too, then so be it.
Written by Adam.
Thanx Adam……
Morning All…. Again.
“to get one over on Arsene and Wenger” No way Rico would let that slip through the net, who is in charge?
Good well written article brudder!
Morning Chaps, great post Adam… I think the massive majority other then wenger is the board too old and requires modernising
Morning All….
Wether you agree or not, that Adam, was one outstanding post…
“falls somewhere between irresponsibility and taking the piss” – love it!! So true!!
Really good read that, thanks.
For a long time I thought that it was the Premier League and the football world that was changing – not Wenger – and his philosophy that brought us early success would shine through. Despite not winning trophies we have still been relatively competitive all these years.
But while reading your post I remembered a quote: Heraclitus — ‘No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it’s not the same river and he’s not the same man.’
Youre right in a sense – Wenger has changed too, in that he has become hardened in his ways, and that has prevented us from adapting to the flow of the river. I think this is one reason why SAF was so successful for utd all those years – he knew how to change.
Morning All….
That, Adam, was one outstanding post…
Shut up Leigh………
Brother Lee. Don’t ignore the comma. 🙂
Brilliant post Adam sums up what a great many are thinking and feeling.
Very good read…
Wenger is a top man; his struggles with his zipper and his stance with 4th officials during games is worth keeping him for another 2 seasons … 😛
Shalom.
Being grateful is a virtue. It took Chelsea and Man City more than 40 years to win the Premier league.
For 17 years Arsenal is always up and consistently contending at all fronts.
Having opportunities to write does not give one right to be personal. That’s abuse of privilege. Well done Wenger.
one day.., who knows except God.
Arteta apparently not getting a extension on his contract
Wenger just hasn’t got a clue,if they renew his contract,then I’m off
elsewhere,and there’s a lot more thinking the same way.
I’d love to meet a few of these so-called AKB’s to see why they think he is still the right man for the job (beyond their default “look what he has done for our club” response)
Steve – they will. You know they will. Us fans and our opinions aren’t worth a rub in the eyes of the board.
Fans or customers?
Where did you read that Matty?
Haha source is debatable but worth a read TG – goal.com mate
TS sorry
Bender Bender Bender!
Brilliant post, Adam, as always.
Morning gents.
Rocky….on the big weekend , I meant 13 years have passed, and nothing to with us being manhandled by Citeh 🙂
Sorry Lee… For a moment, I forgot we were a business primarily now
Ahhh, gotcha Scott. Yeah, can’t believe it has been that long. Still get emotional whenever I see anything about him on TV.
Rocky, I decided on Tuesday night he was out of ideas….I am a little slow.
I really was more deflated with that performance than I was with the weekend no show.
Please let us sneak the Cup in, so he can go head held high.
So wenger is every arsenal fan enemy.That’s funny.How fast people change.On the january transfer,which better striker can we get?Martinaz?Costa?Falcao?or karim?So we should buy for buying sake?we should buy another deadwood?To me wenger pushed his luck,We lost most of our important players to injury.What Wenger seriously suck at is PLAN B.A directly winger is our main problem with a little bit of confidence.
Its the british weather mate…
Get on your A340,cross the Far East and you will be back to your usual self Scott… we can’t all be doomers…
Where is Sukky btw…
Cheers Matty; goal.com, Metro and CoF are Rico’s fave sites…. don’t let her know I said that. 😛
Ah my man Sukky right on time…
Sukky – how about an embarrassingly derisory bid for Suarez? People are available at the right price. Which Wenger refuses to buy at. Are you happy with our strikers then?
There were loads of strikers he could of bought BUT he thought Giroud was the answer! Scandalous…..
Rocky, I think the bid with Suarez was never the issue… the issue was the 120kp/w we offered him. he stayed and he is earning close to 200k per week plus bonus…
Alll according to Rush…
Scott – Agreed. He really HAS run out of ideas. The gung-ho set up against Chelsea proved that. Can anyone see him masterminding ground-out wins over superior opposition like Mourinho and even Di Matteo in the Champs League? No. Let’s just go balls-out attack and see what happens. Every match. It. Doesn’t. Work.
Ts – Rush is as big a helmet as Robson is for us. Always spouting shit.
Wityh me it was the Salah move to Chelsea that killed it for me with Wenger…
I am not sure there were long term strikers who could come in and make an immediate big difference…
We had bids for Juve and Espanyol strikers etc
From what I heard last summer and reported on here Mandzukic was the one but because Lew did join BM it messed up the striker optons…
Klopp almost confirmed it too…
According to Negredo himself a bid was made but when he heard we were going for Suarez he called Pelle’ and joined City…
If folks could remember I said last summer that we would regret wasting time on Suarez…
The boy was looking to increase his salary… Pep who is the brother of Suarez’s agent said during that saga that he did not think Suarez actually wanted to move when a journo’ asked him if he would be interested in Suarez….
We have a board of posh boys from Eton etc who do not understand how common men deal in the transfer window imho…
When I started posted on here I was said that I did not believe Aw was the reason for messing up transfers from what I heard… I am sure most disagreed.
The Cabaye and Mike Ashley negotiation just showed how patronising our negotiators are imho…
The whole setup when it comes to signing players is a fucking farce.
Lol. Rush he has a new model hasn’t he Rocky?
That wankstain Dick Head is clearly a fucktard of the highest order when it comes to negotiating.
Great read adam,
Was a bit surprised reading yesterday that getting rid of Gervinho was a mistake,going by what we all had seen from him on the pitch.
What did surprise me at the time when transfered,was that wenger listened to the supporters and sold him.
Because over the years supporters have voiced opinions on players considered not good enough,but have been allowed to stay and make up the squad numbers.
Or was it wenger got offered money for Gervinho,so on this one he felt justifed to sell.
Mike Ashley is another scum too…
That Cabaye move reminds me of our dealing with Wigan on Cahill…
It’s a shame that it’s all come to this but truth be told the man has gone stale. As stale as the people directly responsible for him have gone also. His head coach Boro Primorac I think has either run out of ideas or given up trying to change things and is just seeing his time out.it’s the only explanation I can find for the tactical stagnation we watch all the time.
Fred, I think the Gervinho one we needed to replace him with a similar player…
On paper Serge was earmarked as his replacement but he is not being used and is a different type of player imho…
Gervinho was frustrating with us but there is no denying he is doing more than ok at Roma currently …
Totally agree Potter… I do not see what Boro does…
Strangely enough he is the one who warms the players up before training… the size of his gut will rival Adam’s nemesis from Spain, Mr Hunter. lol
Apparently Costa is on his way to the chavs…
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/467171/TRANSFER-NEWS-Chelsea-begin-Costa-talks-Man-City-after-Sagna-and-Newcastle-eye-Lukaku
Hi ts,
Watching our team against the big teams is like watching a horror film,
I like serge but for me 18 yr olds are not for the big games,
not sure what shity player said it,just after the 6-3 result,
but remembered what was said.
It was men against boys to day.
Ginge, is it any wonder that our dealing with Wigan resulted in him joining Chelsea.
Especially as Cahill played for Bolton!!!
Bloody Tom Fox, what a plonker…
Very true Fred. It was none other than Nasri who said that me think…
Ts who is the best defensive midfielder in Spain and Portugal in your opinion…?
Two or three more years it is then….. I love Wenger I want you all to know and I am told we gonna win on Saturday.
Where is MR Wath?
Bring back MR Wath…
Kev- I have always wondered if that name was given to him by his parents or it was an alias?
Tom N Dick… its like a title of comedy on the Gold channel.lol
What hurts with those deals is that the said clubs ended up selling for not much more than what we offered.
Our holier than thou and pompous take it or leave it attitude is what kills deals I suspect.
We also have this crusade against agent fees which is not making us popular imo…
I also heard we told Viviano was shocking when we wee desperate for a striker in January…
All speculation I guess… but telling a striker ‘he can’t get a better deal at his age’ ….well….?
Porto midfielder Fernando is at the right level for me…
I like your boy Calvanho but he is a bit young so…
Wath – did you just email me?
Sorry Kev Mr Wath seems to of been replaced by me, WordPress doing what it wants yesterday couldn’t get on it changes my name.
I think after Sat I will be PigSick Wath….
Isn’t Viviano a keeper??
Not that I know of Rocky been waiting for you to mail me I have your Chelsea tkt you wanted…!
Just emailed you and got something about sweary language from our geeky email police… Must have been on an email I replied on…. Will check, amend and resend!
Cheeky prick!!
In Spain i like Suarez and Gabi… I don’t mind Perez either
I rated Camacho but I am not sure why Pelle’ did not go for him instead… maybe Pelle’ thought he would be too young for this league.
my fave is Carlos Sanchez (Elche) though… he is the old school frimpong type… ie Flamini in 2007 maybe…
Hi all,
I saw someone ask where they saw Arteta’s contract is not been renewed. I saw that on goal.com but it was all speculation based on the older players who had theirs renewed or trying to in Sagna’s case.
Tom N Dick… its like a title of comedy on the Gold channel.lol
More like Jack and Danny the way they appear to carry on.
Sagna can do one.
Very good Potter!
I’m with Lee…
It has to be Bender…
Jm and Snap will know more about the Portugese and Spanish leagues than me though…
Lol… Potter Carry on.
Are you calling Lee a Bender Kev? Bit uncalled for…
I wonder if it’s journo’s stirring the pot for Saturday or true that City have offered Sagna a 3 year contract.
If the Sagna rumours are true, then play Jenkinson in the FACup…
Let a proper Gooner have a bit of glory (hopefully)…
If they think they will get 3 quality, injury free years out of him, let them have him.
Hi Rock, call Lee a Bender???
Never mate… 😉
I noticed Spectrum on LG yesterday, usual old nonsense.
He was in his element…
Each of us has his own personal relationship with the club and feelings as to what has gone wrong. I have often thought I could chart my emotional roller coaster through a graph. Get worked up and excited to go to the game and go through the pre match ritual of travel etc., Realise after 20 minutes that we have either been out thought, gone sideways or lack confidence and then spend the game in either hope that we will rediscover some form or considering the likely options for the outcome. Ok, we score. Now if we can just hang on. It’s 3 points right? This ain’t working. Why are we so open at the back and why are we sending both centre halfs up for corners? Who is that coming on? Oh it’s Sanogo. Great.
And so it goes on. Defeats like last Saturdays are usually followed by a furious reaction of wanting Arsene to get it together or bugger off. This might last for a few days or until I calm down. Then perhaps a win at a club struggling against relegation followed by a feeling that Arsene might actually still have it and that perhaps I was too hasty. History bites me in the arse repeatedly week in week out.
This is, for me, what supporting Arsenal has become. Some clarity is needed because I genuinely believe that Kroenke doesn’t give a toss about people like me. We are financial fodder to him and perhaps I have been supporting the club for too long and got stuck between my historical and family orientated romantic view and the grim reality of what Arsenal and football are on their way to becoming.
Rock, the choppers are in good nick…
Ready to rip into some tandoori chops tonight… 🙂
Lata
Re 12:03 I also heard we told Viviano was shocking when we wee desperate for a striker in January…
I meant Vucini of Juve…
“Oh it’s Sanogo. Great” – again, so true!
Did SteveP go on holiday with Rico? I haven’t seen him on here since she left.
I’ve missed his positive come negative all in one sentence view.
AW making excuses for not playing Akpom but playing Yaya makes me laugh…
I just think your fickle Adam, nothing wrong with good ole Arsene…..
Carvalho is what 21 Ts, same age as Vieira when he joined…. That’ll do me mate. Add your man from Southampton and away we go.
Vucinic would still do a job in this country. When City bought Negredo, I thought they had wasted their money. How wrong was I on that one. The guy is built for this league.
Sp1, is part of the armada looking for the lost plane, Brad…
He is probably enjoying some fishing instead of all the negattivity me think… lol
What negativity Ts, I thought it was called realism…?
why don’t fans boycott some of the last home games of this season?
empty seats will surely get the attention of the money crazed board. it might be a bit harsh on the players, but something must be done. imagine what Chelsea will do to us next season if they get costa?
get Martinez or klopp in with some funds to get a decent striker and def midfield player.
that’s my South African opoinion
lo… just saying… realism it is then….
I seem to remember that SPs man to man advice to Goonster about the perils of Fatherhood was the last pearl to drip from his keyboard.
Where has Smudge gone? I rather liked his well considered comments through the night. His last burst was priceless if somewhat pornographic.
Because he was 31 we were willing to pay £1m or so for him for 6 months but I think Juve would have accepted 2m plus we would have signed permanently for 2 years too…
Oddly, 6 months ago Aw was willing to give 36 y.o Di Natale a 2 year deal before we failed with the Demba move…
The logic of how recruitment is very puzzling imo…
Smudge was classic Adam….. Lol
Bit concerned about all this Bender Leigh lark…..
Alan B’Stard, now there was a cnut of Biblical proportions!
Wenger out!
Vucini is a poor man tevez… he would have worked hard up front and not winced like OG12…
he is very mobile albeit not as clinical but he would have gien us another option…
What about that “in Arsene we rust!” cnut?
Ts you rotten bastard are you insinuating that Le quaff is a bit of a tosspot…?
Wath. That last series of Smudge’s comments were eye wateringly funny but I doubted Rico would see it that way. I think he was consigned to the bin.
didn’t IG say AW will go when the board sense he has lost the fans?
We need to man the squad up big time! Get shot of the sicknotes…
not in those words but yes… lol
Adam – That was legendary!
No doubt Alan is ensconced in a cellar somewhere dressed in black.
John cross defending wenger – worth a butchers
http://sport.bt.com/sportfootball/football/impatient-arsenal-fans-should-remember-debt-to-wenger-S11363887894163
Og12 use to work hard but since Adam paid for the ‘lady of the night’/model to out Giroud… its gone down hill me think…
Rocky. I think you and I caught his historic comments just before they were removed. They accurately charted his progress through a bottle of Scotch over several hours. 🙂
TS. You sussed me. 🙂
Matty john cross wants to realise you can’t carry on living in the past and how long can you keep on surviving on history and past successes…?
Adam not sure he got binned but was asked to tone it down and then vanished lol
I think he fancied Rico big time lol
Totally agree Ts he not putting it about in the box anymore just in a hotel room
Yeah i agree but after reading that when he lay it out there you do kinda feel for the guy that this is how it turn out… put of a head screw i guess
Wath. Who? smudge? Surely Rico binned him after that last outburst.
Christ. How long do we need to “remain in debt” to Wenger? John Cross can suck a fat dick. I’m sick and tired of people saying he is untouchable because of what he did YEARS ago. No-one debates that. He’s been out of touch for years now and it shows.
SA gooner, problem is season ticket holders have already paid so not turning up doesn’t hurt the club, attendance Tue was crap they still put it up at over 59,000 though. protests I say get people organized and together and get ya point across, yanks hate bad publicity…! The yank needs to know the fans are unhappy.
Adam, it was absolute class!!
Another South African in SA gooner… hiya
He not in the sin bin now mate just checked…!
The last few alcohol induced rankings were extremely funny despite the crudeness…
Brad will be pleased, two of them….!
WATH you say protest but will the board really listen to a couple of 100 fans screaming outside the stadium? 100’s aint gonna make an impact you need 1000s and alot of grouping.. The only way you will hit the board is by not attending games and the AST standing up to the likes to IVAN the grey!
Matty that’s the point BSM, AST RED ACTION all need to pull together ignore differences and protest at the yank… The board are merely an instrument of his wishes. upset the yank make him uncomfy then you’ll see a difference. All far to kushy for him at the moment.
Wath / Adam. his musings that night were those of a man on the edge!!
John Cross is Arsenal’s man in the press and they use him as a voice to the outside world. I imagine they line a few pints up on a bar and just feed him morsels and bits of shit as they butter him up. They must have a huge laugh when they see the old cobblers that he comes up with.
Much in the same way that some Spanish clubs use Hunter. Judging by the way his gut overlaps his strides I should think it’s a kind of all-you-can-eat and drink deal with Tapas and Rioja.
When was the last time you read an independently thought out article written by a footballing journalist who wasn’t on someone’s payroll. The answer is never. They all have an angle and they are all influenced by backhanders.
Rectum that’s his name….
And that who we need to address but it concerning that the fans can all see the defect of the club and are support trust doesnt!
That yank needs to go his just sitting on the investment the club is generating and not investing back in the squad.
Edge of what is the question Rocky…?
Wath – What differences do they have? Are they all not after the same thing??
Hunter…..silent C!
Bit like cundy….
Agreed Adam. Shaun Custis is a cnut of the highest order too.. my mates used to continually hound him out of pubs in Ware not so long ago.. They’d follow him from pub to pub and insult him wherever he went! It went on for months!
Lee. I forgot that. It was funny wasn’t it? 🙂
Rocky. And his brother the pudding-faced dick.
BSM has the reputation of being anti-Wenger which actually they not as they want better prices better deals for the fans and they very much anti-syrup it seems, think if protest is aimed at Wenger out it needs to be done in a dignified way, don’t slag the bloke off just enough enough and blame the board for showing zero guts and ambition to move forward also the owner for lacking investment and robbing the fans blind.
The only way to make Kroenke uncomfortable is to protest on his doorstep . I wrote a few somewhat uncomplimentary letters to the Denver Post which were published by Mark Kisla ,in the comments section a few supporters of his American teams joined in and then suddenly the subject got dropped . I often wondered if the Post was offered a deal to keep stum . Can’t prove it though. Albeit it might be worth having another go.
That’s the thing though wath…. It shouldn’t be aimed just at Wenger. They are all responsible for this shitstorm we are in at the mo
Wow thats interesting Potter. I dont know about his other clubs in the U.S guess there in a bad state?
I have more sympathy for the BSM position , I don’t think fans should be picking managers or players but i do feel that they need to be able to chivvy up the board if they don’t think they are doing their job properly. After all the buck stops somewhere between Islington and Colorado.
Spot on Potter, the board are complicit of negligence as much as Wenger, if their attitude is they happy with the job he doing that sums up the ambition from the top.
Look at their ages, how can these bunch of old farts have any ambitions to drive the club upwards? where are the proper footballing Arsenal men on the board. Business people with no love of the club no passion for the club no grasp on what the club means to the fans.
Would things be better under Usmanov?
Probably not. its one thing listening to and agreeing with fans when you have no control.. Would he do things he says when he has more to lose? Doubtful.
Not so sure Rocky. Stan is a businessman who probably has about 12 years to live. His whole schtick is money and empire building. Usmanov is worth about £20 billion and judging by the size of the bloke probably eats about a pound of foie gras for breakfast. He looks like he has 6 or 7 years left. I doubt he wants to make money from Arsenal in the same way that Kroenke does but he probably doesn’t want to lose too much either. I would imagine that he wants the club as a plaything and to fuck Abramovich.
they are many arsenal fans in SA, yet arsenal never includes us in in a pre season tour. United, City, even the spuds came here in recent years. But every year Arsenal go to Asia and play terrible teams in poor quality stadia. our local teams gave a strong city side a proper game in a world cup hosting stadium.
once again wenger chooses finances over football, cause the Asian market is probably are lucrative
That’s probably why, SA Gooner. If we took a team to SA pre-season, we’d get dicked every match and probably have 30 injuries.
Isn’t SA one of the most dangerous countries in the World?
He has fingers in many pies over there. MLS football, Lacrosse , Ice Hockey ,Basketball, NFL too. None of his teams are known to be ultra successful they seem happy to make end of season play offs , but not actually to win anything.
Sound familiar ?
SA gooner, AW was against Far east tours for donkey years… its IG and the commercial team who pushed for it…
I will blame AW for tactics or lack of but i am yet to be ‘schooled’/convinced on why/how Aw wields the power he apparently exerts over the board…
Potter. You are going to turn me into a cynic with all this Kroenke stuff. 🙂
But, it was a bad day for Arsenal when he arrived. Hill-Wood was probably right in his early statements, before Kroenke gave him a bundle of money and he changed his mind.
Didnt we play the Kaiser Chiefs once or was that a concert at the new stadium.
Potter – either one of those would have been painful to watch….
Ts. Perhaps it is because Kroenke has made his money from mediocrity and that is precisely what Wenger represents these days. Mediocrity and fiscal efficiency.
Spot on re 1:44…
We always forget about Farhad Moshiri when we mention AU… from what i have heard/read Ardavan is the man who actually persuaded AU to invest in the club…
There are also rumours from some yanks i have spoken who also suspect that Stan is just a proxy man for one of the 2 blue bloods of the globe…
Judging from Lady Nina’s comments and the person we consulted during the sale it won’t surprise me at all…
At least you guys don’t think we ride around on Elephants wearing loin cloths and know their friend in Kenya because we live on the same continent called Africa.
TS. Who are the Blue Bloods?
Bradster. Are you saying that you don’t wear loincloths then?
We played kaiser chiefs and Orlando pirates in SA in 1994 also beat Man utd there as well…!
Do you not know my friend Vinay then Brad? His folks are from Kenya… You must know him surely?
Even freisburg have opted not to buy Le Coq…
like Flamini I never ever rated him much… they never had the brain to be CM imho…
He was another player who should have been happy playing RB for AFC but due to Aw’s soft stance when it comes to french players he also dictated to him where he wanted to play…
Look at Jose; he gave Mata 1 option work hard off the ball or f@@k off…
We have too many players whinging about where they want to play and how they want to play…
Flamini hardly played DM for Milan even when Gatusso was suspended… he was a right back!
When JW went to Bolton he played on the wings but lies on tv about not being a winger when at u-18/u-21 level he played AM/winger…
What happened to the man who told wiltord to shut up and play on the wings or play up front when TH14 was out…?
Brad, don’t they have to clear the lions off the runway so the planes can land…?
As chldinsh as it makes me, I can’t see the name Orlando Pirates without the word “poo” in the middle!!
Ts the yank is looking to start taking cash out the club mark my words, then let’s see if the fans sit around complaining or get off their arses and try and get rid of the bloke.
Adam ain’t blue bloods that yank police series with Tom Selleck in…?
Oh and before you say anything my Mrs watches it……….. Silly cow
Seems Brad run off in his loincloth to clear the runway……..
course she does wath… course she does.
Adam isn’t Stan from the Du Pont family tree himself… and I don’t mean through his links to Warmart by his wife?
Research who Michael Steanberg is…
In fact the same people were going to use Jay-Z as the front but chose Stan instead…
Talking of which you lot need to behave later… no one is to order lamb, Scott could get all emotional and he’s had a traumatic week as it is so please be a little sensitive.
Walmart*
Wath. I like Tom Selleck, especially his moustache. I like him in the Jesse Stone movies.
Ts, so where does your theory lead us…? Are they richer than AU and are they just going to asset strip us and fuck off..?
Rocky, sex n travel…!
His tache or his syrup Adam 🙂
Loin cloths – Only when my wife says so.
Only Vinny I know of is in movies but perhaps you know my friend Dave, he’s Irish. You know, you guys from the UK are all the same 😉
Lions on the run way – only if you’re trying to land in the Kruger Park and you’re fucked anyway in that case.
Is that Steinberg?
Apparently, the actual guys wanted to use Jay-Z to gain more American following but decided his iomagine won’t fit with the direct of the curreent board…
The same people who gave New York Knicks to Jay-Z to front… 😉
You guys are so funny, sorry I don’t reply straight away Wath, trying to do some work in between on this thing they call a C.o.m.p.u.t.e.r. ;-0
The EPL is a cash come that is own by another proxy Murdock… the biggest club in London had to be own by them too…
I think in the end they will sell up just before the EPL loses its appeal…
Bradster. But it is dangerous out there isn’t it? Loincloths or not?
Shattered the illusion Brad….
Blokes like Pistorious strolling around with guns etc..
So pony express still alive and kicking over there as well Brad or stream trains now, computers, ah you got one sent over from here surely…? I heard you got no electricity to run it though 🙂
Adam, not quite strolling me thinks lol
That is the one Adam, apparently they are at war and Stan could do with real cash…
Not actually Adam. We need to be more vigilant to not be a soft target but it’s safe in most places.
We’re very safety conscious so everything is locked, houses are locked up like fort knox and most people have armed response. But we can do normal stuff without the fear of being attacked the second we walk out the door.
We are more fearful with the state of crime in the country, so many people are armed (hence Oscar) but not like vigilante you see in movies.
Ts, if it’s a front why did they borrow from Deutche bank?
Sounds like most of London Brad…..
Well our electricity service has been poor that some days I do feel like we’re in the dark ages.
Most of us got generators when the power was going down for hours at a time.
Anyway, it was good times watching Arsenal beat United on home soil.
Watched SA go 3-0 up against Brazil only to lose 4-3 to a Bebeto hattrick.
Where u Brad, Joburg ?
Poo is a cracking word….I heard some talking about Carlos Poo-hole of Barca the other day! Made me smile……
Its the same as saying the federal reserve or Bank of England are national banks…
Don’t know.. its just a theory really…
And a complete poo-hole he was as well Lee….
Yep, that’s correct Wath.
I quite envious of his his Alf Garnett though….
Mates of mine who seem to spend their lives travelling the world scuba diving tell me it is the most beautiful country anywhere but that they never feel completely secure. I would like to go there though.
But I’ve only got a tenner.
Sad thing is we used to be pretty decent at football. We were rated number 1 in Africa, qualified for France and won the African cup of nations.
We had plenty overseas players who played all over Europe. Now we have a handful and Pienaar is probably the best of the lot.
We’ve been left behind by Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Ghana and even Zambia.
Sadly we dropped so low that a country inside our borders, Swaziland, as big as London we can’t even beat.
your tenner would buy you a fillet steak meal and a draught of beer here.
Not sure Stan will take money through dividends as he would have to pay AU and Red & white too…
At some stage in the future, he will hope to find a way to take some profit out of the club when sanity has returned to Football club ownership but (hopefully) he’s too smart a business man to go the Glazer way…
I thought the board guaranteed that no part of the purchase will be financed by bank loans or other debts but read that KSE does have an arrangement with Deutsche Bank. Apparently, thihis a takeover did not saddled the club itself with debt. The debt is instead at the holding company level. Said another way, Arsenal is not responsible for the interest payments, but KSE is.
Anyway I am not into financial/corporate stuff so….
Wath do you know if Stan has increased the £25,000 a week in a wages he was taking from the club for doing nothing?
That is 100k a month and pays for part of the interest us…
I love it lee! Any use of the word has me laughing. Me and my mates have been calling him “Carl’s Poo Hole” for about 10 years! Along with the former Juve / Czech Republic player (due to his hair) Pavel NestHead
Kse def took out a loan with Deutsche bank Ts, I still think lady N owed money as well so he ain’t exactly a quick payer is he. maybe he hopes to make his dosh on the share prices but would of thought he topping out on those with the new commercial deals in place and to revenue prob as high as it’s gonna go…?!?!?!
That would be £30 here Brad.
As far as I know Ts the “wage” is in place still yes… Management fees lol
Adam, have you frequented Smiths at Wapping… What bat u Lee…?
Wath. No, but I have been in Smiths by Smithfield Market. I will check if it’s the same group.
That’s not much, 100k a month. He must bbe holding out for a share price increase.
Surely AU would even offer 2x the share price for total ownership and would be much more than waiting for the price to increase.
We need to do that Cape Town trip Adam, need to save up £50 we’ll be fine
Yes I went there last year for dinner but was slightly long from lunchtime….we had fruits d’air!
Must be Adam the original one is in Ongar….. The Wapping one is top notch.
Wath. No, it’s a different group, but I have been in its sister restaurant Smiths of Ongar and it was pretty good. As for fish, we have The Ark in Wanstead at the top of the road and we usually stroll up there as the food is good. Lee and Kev tried it with me a few weeks back. Next time you are this way we could grab a bite with the chaps. 🙂
Think the one in Smithfields is the new one of the group.
Brad, 100k for doing jack all…?
That is strip club money for him or wig money i should say.. 🙂
Wath. £50? I could probably borrow that from Brother Lee.
The Ark rings a bell mate but not been in there. the Ongar Smiths is full of old people Kev would love it…..
The fish in there is very very good, so to The Fish Place in Battersea close to the heliport.
The one in Smithfield was owned by that plum John Torode, the only man who loves himself as much as Mourinho does.
Am sure Lee will give you a good % rate mate 🙂
Ok right well I’ll give that a miss then and stick to Smiths of Wapping… Agreed Torode is a prized bell ….
You get a lot of Spurs players in The Ark and Ronnie O’Sullivan lives up the road and he is often eating there. It’s very good fish, simply cooked and they do a great wally. I had Turbot and chips up there a few weeks ago and it was outstanding.
Only black mark was that they didn’t have any pickled onions for Lee.
It is literally 5 minutes walk Wath which is why we go there so often I suppose.
we are proacative when it comes to making the dosh…
Arsenal head to New York to face Henry and Red Bulls in July
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2590735/Arsenal-play-Thierry-Henrys-New-York-Red-Bulls-friendly-
Will have to put it on my “to eat at list” Adam…!
Am sure we got part 3 of the Far East as well pre season although with the WC and going to NY maybe not ?
Interesting read….
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2590555/David-Beckham-Class-92-stars-2bn-takeover-Manchester-United-bankrolled-Arab-oil-cash.html
Damn funny names you poms give pubs.
What the hell does Woodins Shades mean 🙂
You ain’t seen muffin yet Scott…….
If you get yourself up to Highbury Corner go in the Slug n Lettuce and at the bar ask for Big Johnny you’ll be well looked after….
I had to refrain from meeting in Dirty Dicks!
That was some post Adam, brilliant stuff.
Smudge aka Kwit fit posts on Le Grove, top fella and very entertaining.
Worth remembering that the last 8 winners of the Europa Two Bob Cup all have something in common when it comes to Arsenal, they’ve all won more trophies than us in the last 8 years, spent a lot of time researching that fact before anyone gets shirty.
No idea Scott , but if you are in there and they have Timothy Taylors Landlord bitter on tap , give it a go.
Scott, Nobody Inn !
I want to try the Timothy Taylor but am yet to run across it.
The Brownswood in Brownswood Road Near Clissold Park is my stop off before matches , they have it there. Pint of Landlord ? don’t mind if i do.
HAs anyone read the recent edition of Forbes Magazine’s Rich List which places the RICHEST member of the Rothschild family at 1153rd position,just qualifying as a billionaire with wealth of EXACTLY $1 Billion or £600 Million.
If this result were accurate it would mean that Richard Branson was richer than the Rothschild’s,and so is Sir Paul Macartney!This result would mean that Bill Gates was 100 times richer than the richest member of the Rothschild family!!! Anyone daft enough to believe such hogwash shouldn’t be allowed out on their own!
Ts all those rich list things are a jokes. Word in the ear of someone and people drop down the list like us down the league table… Free fall….
And do you think Liverpool will release suarez?
Sukky, not a chance in hell will Livpoo sell Suarez to us, we had our chance and blew it
We have problems,we all know that.3 or 4 signings won’t solve it.We’ve lost it,We’ve lost the passion,the fear factor,the beautiful game etc.I WANT MY ARSENAL BACK.
Evening all,
Many have applauded the post, great fantastic, some of the words used to decribe this Wenger out post. How disappointed i am reading such dribble. Even the die hard Scott from Oz the Ozzie that reckons he is Arsenal through and through has even had his head turned by so called supporters which have season tickets saying this is the worst Arsenal team ever, led by a burnt out manager.
Yes these so called supporters have been humiliated with some of the worst results for a long long time, Not by their team, but by rival supporters from other teams.
So what, If you are proper Arsenal supporters you support through the bad times, Many of you have been supporting for years, many of you have seen success in the days when Arsenal was in their Hay day. Wenger was a hero in those days and you loved him how the worm turns.
Many believe that Arsenal football has exceeded new depths they believe that it cannot get worse, Believe me things could get a lot worse, you could be watching your football in the lower leagues the thought of a cup final never even crossing your minds, You could be fighting relegation not worrying about Entry into Champions League.
Where are those stallwart Supporters now. I am disgusted that this once Best Arsenal blog around is now just a witch hunt to get rid of a man that has put Arsenal on the map. Yes were up against it with clubs outspending us, yes we cannot compete with the kind of wages or transfer fee’s that others can, but many clubs are in the same positions, Clubs lower than us in the league and most of them will never play Champions League and also have not got to semi’s and finals.
Arsenal FC are 4th in the league we are in the semi final of a cup, and all i read is whingeing hard done by supporters running the Wenger out crusade. Honestly you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Since you started supporting, The Arsenal have grown we have moved on from little grounds to a stadium to be proud of. Our owners have tried to keep with old Arsenal traditions but that is not good enough for you.
Personally i like the fact that we don’t buy success, I like the fact that Keeping the club spending within its means makes me feel that we are trying to compete the right way and when our finances allow we can spend and get better players. That time is coming although not quite there, and probably never able to compete with multi Billionare’s.
You see i am not like you, where you only see success in trophies and bragging rights, I see my club building for the future. I want trophies and i want us to be successfull but not to the detriment of the club.
My view is that if your not happy, give up, or don’t buy tickets, watch the top players play at the other clubs as that is all you seem to want. But Don’t worry you can come back should Arsenal ever win something and you can talk to the guy by the side of you, and tell him how you supported all your life Ha,
Supporters support through all adversity bad times and good times Wenger is not spending because the money is not there not because he has other motives. You may gang together to get him out but if you think that another manager will change things your living in cloud Cockoo land,
Hi Sp1, hope you are well?
Evening Steve,
I have to say that the humiliation you speak of from opposition fans is a state caused by the club. Whilst i agree things could be worse ,I am concerned that if the staleness that we are witnessing is not addressed it probably will. My feelings about the champions league is that I am not particularly bothered as it’s a competition that we have little or no chance of winning and it’s midweek which means that i can’t attend. You say the owners have tried to keep with old Arsenal traditions , please expound exactly how.
So Arsene put us on the map ? Don’t think so , we have been on the map before with George Graham 6 trophies in 9 years, and of course the 1930’s when even I was not around. however we dropped off and look quite likely to drop off again.
I don’t completely buy into the money buys players buys success syndrome, I know it helps but we have good players too . A cursory glance at the league table shows that better performances against the so called money clubs that we so heavily capitulated to and the table would be completely different . The club has gone stale and needs a shake up.
This doesn’t mean that I don’t support the players on the pitch , I will be there Saturday to witness things first hand as I have done since 1956 . The stadium move was necessary to maintain our position albeit I don’t think it was handled to the best end regarding the team.
The old board did well out of it though. Just a small donation from their profits would have enabled the club to compete through our period of austerity but that did not fit their agenda.
As you can see the rose tint on my glasses wore off some time ago.
I live in hope that things will be turned round, I am actually in favour of giving Wenger the 60 million we have got from both Emirates and Puma each year of a new contract and providing the club gives it in full he will have one last chance to produce the winning team that I wish to see again.
with one stipulation Potter… AW getting rid of Boro…
We need fresh ideas and that’s one way of doing it. As we asked before :- What does he do ?
Hi Ginge You have said you only go to away games ,are you by any chance going to the heap tomorrow night to watch the U21. I hear that Chba has a knee injury I hope its not another Theo.
Potter I have been told that the contracts of “more than One” coach finish at the end of the season and that Boro is one of them.
Potter, You are one of the supporters i most admire, the distance you travel and your support for all that time is absolutely blinding. You seem to follow the club no matter what and i commend you for it,
You asked me why i felt the owners were doing things the right way, As you must know i am not a man in the know, Just a guy that reads between the lines, I have been a Wenger supporter since he came, I must admit the man does things that for the life of me i don’t understand but i trust the man. Wenger gives me the impression that he really cares, i watch the man on the touchline and i can feel his pain. Wenger talks about unity teamwork and believing, when at times i feel he would like to do a lot more, i feel at times that his words are held back, and i feel that he would love to say what we all want to hear, Personally i feel he is being restricted but i also believe he can see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Kroenke has many businesses, Arsenal is just another interest, Kroenke’s money is dotted all over so i feel that Arsenal has to spend within its needs. The club seems to be well run and the sponsors money has helped, but if Arsenal are working within there needs, the money has been spread widely. From what i see with the club Wenger spends what he makes on sales which is why we have seen some top players sold. Now that hurts the supporter but is the only way Wenger gets to buy players that he needs, Granted not all these buys have been successful but he has to gamble with cheaper buys.
Ozils Purchase i guess was funded by Wengers sales, Supporters calling for Marquee signings had hit the hilt and wenger who ordinaraly would have brought 3 or 4 signings decided to go big. Personall i felt he wanted Suarez but just never had the funds to prise him away and time slipping away went for Ozil. Kroenke runs a tight ship and i feel he has made it quite clear that Arsenal has to fund itself, and i feel Wenger is doing his best to keep us competetive. 16 years at top 4 is pretty impressive when you look at his spending. I believe should he go the rules would stay the same and a new man would struggle under the same rules. I honestly feel that Wenger is punching well above his weight, i also feel that he is under emense pressure. Qualifying for champions league would probably save us from selling another top player so i feel that is pressure enough.
Many believe money is just sitting there and Wenger ignores it, I can;t see that, if he had it in the abundance that has been said i feel he would love to spend it.
Thanks Ginge, well mate, hope you are too.
Many believe that money is just sitting
Steve :- I am not an accountant but I look at the financial reports from Swiss Ramble and others and they showed that even with the Ozil purchase the club just about broke even. This suggests to me that as this year we have new sponsorships that bring in approx 60 million extra . I want to see Wenger get the chance to spend it and have the chance to finish the job he started , but I also want to see him use the money for the immediate improvement of the first team. Whether the board which is made up of people that I don’t and never really have trusted will allow him to do that remains to be seen. I also agree that there are things going on behind the scenes which Wenger cannot talk about . The new contract will delay the book that hopefully will explain all these things in a language that I can understand.
Rick ,interesting information, the coaching side certainly needs improvement.
hello everyone,
My opinion: before thinking in buy someone, we must define who will be our next manager. AW or another one?
If it’s another one, all of decisions must be for himself. So manage and planning next season must start soon is possible.
This season there have been a repeated of mistakes : a) whenever we suffer a humiliating defeat , we did not win the next game b ) The emphasis is often on the same team when it won the last game c ) I lost count of the number of games we have played with 10 a piece or a considerable part of the game . Began in the 1st game against Aston Villa . In almost all ( or all ? )we were defeated . (mostly stupid and harmful. Ex: stoke)
After … a) There were more cases extra football ( Bendtner , Giroud … ) b )we do not have enough players . Planned up the squad with Diaby , NB , … and do not play . The squad is very short . c ) Agaian, like in the previous years, we have many injured and unavailable playes . d ) Early removal of Champions , has usually been the reference point for the end of illusions. e) continue to assert that historically and statistically , who is 2nd in the fist stage , is usually not be for the last 8 ( teams that are considered as reference … ) . f ) It seems that this year , nor the ladies give us joy …
Tomorrow , I’ll talk about the possible coach. Funny how the first 3 all have new coaches and those who bet on continuity ( Arsenal ) or the passage of legacy ( M United) are disappointments .
Potter if what you say about the profits is right, the swelling transfer pot is far from flowing over. Changeing Managers at this stage to me is suicidal look at Moyes, Biggest club in the world and shaken to the Quick. United need a rebuilding Job which will cost bundles, but their coffers will make the funds available Whether Moyes can build a winning team remains to be seen.
Wenger has to take the stick from the likes of Mourinho but has kept his comments to himself, That shows me that Wenger has integrity of the man i thought he was.
Sponsorship money would be welcome and i’m sure should Wenger get it all there will be changes, I feel that Wenger has done what was needed in securing our future stars to long contracts which probably has tied him from buying in the winter window.
I believe that the comments about Wenger not signing unless he has full control of funding may well be true .Reading between my own lines ,could it be that although the club has this new influx of money from the two sponsors plus new TV money our board is trying to keep it back either in full or part and Wenger wants it for new players.
Potter, i feel that Wenger has reached his tether, supporters booing him when i believe he would love to buy the players we all know we need. Injuries again has been cruel, top players at a time when we meet the top teams are getting treated, how often has that happened, also cruel referee decisions that we always get in the run in. Wenger knew as well as us, that he needed men up front , if you feel that he didn’t buy for stuborness i don’t believe it the funds couldn’t have been there.
As for fans calling for 3 4 signings and the names i hear are Marquee prices think again, as that won’t happen. He may buy players but they won’t be top players he will buy what he can afford and hopefully the injured would have recovered.
Imagine the team if all the players had been fit for the whole season. Diaby Ramsey Wilshere Walcott when you look on paper that could be some team, with Gnabry Chamberlain Ozil Monreal Koshelney Mertsacker Gibbs Sagna and Maybe with some of our loaners coming back with Campbell. I saw Kalstrom the other night a player we all laughed at and poked fun at Wenger for loaning, from what i saw of Kalstrom he looked quality to me a man who has an eye for a pass a man who in ten minutes had made more telling tackles than most of the team. Why Wenger went with Czezesney and not Fabianski god only knows as Czezesney is not the answer in our goal.
Evening SP,
Have to disagree with almost everything you say to be honest.
You were on here every other weekend last season slagging off wenger and the team, we didn’t know how to attack or defend manager was clueless yet now you seem to of changed your tune to almost being Wengers PR man.
You completely ignore the Arsenal PLC financial reports that clearly state there are over 100 million pounds in the bank. It’s as if your making the excuses for them that they are ok to justify mediocrity.
The owner couldn’t give toss about you or I as fans we are a means to feeding his cash cow and Wenger is complicit to that.
Your moaning about fans not being fans well that goes two way mate, when I am being charged an arm and a leg I can vent my frustrations, I’ve seen buckets loads of shit over there over the years like most on here but I not been ripped off to see it. I don’t like being taken for a ride and thats how I feel about my club at the moment.
You may not share that opinion which is fine but I think it’s in pretty poor taste to come on here and moan about people who go to games week in week out and tell them how to support their team/club.
Just had a fantastic evening with my HHCC pals and the boys from Aussie…
Hope you behaved Grandad…..
Kev, a massive thanks to you, Adam, Rocky and old Blue Eyes himself , Lee.
Rico and Wath, thanks a bundle for getting HH started and providing such a great platform for Gooners to talk to fellow Arsenal fans.
What a great night.
Mr Wath, it was a blast….
Scott, it was superb mate.
Wath, Fair comments and of course on a blog such as this, your view is your own and of course you are entitled to it.
Yes your right i have moaned but i moan about the things i believe the manager has done wrong. I have never fronted a view that would suggest that we gang up on the manager to get him out.
If supporters feel they are not getting what they are paying for don’t buy a ticket, and for season ticket holders who feel the same way relinquish you tickets and allow the 30 thousand on the waiting list to have a seat. Nobody puts your arm behind your back to buy the ticket, dont like it don t go
I have been told Kev, great stuff mate………
Scott, hope you back at the digs safe n sound, ole blue eyes, didn’t sing My Way did he…..?
Sp there is no 30,000 on the waiting list I can assure you and thats yet more club PR bullshit.
No one is ganging up on anyone it seems most just share the same view, time for him to go but my view is there are lots that need to go with him. I don’t disrespect the bloke I just don’t trust him to manage my club any more.
You say give up tkts and dont go yet isn’t that what supporting your team is all about? You think everything is hunky dorey thats your opinion great I am not gonna tell you I think you got your head in a bucket of sand just like I don’t appreciate you telling me I shouldnt go just because I feel the need to voice my opinion that Wenger is past his sell by date we have a greedy board with no ambition and an owner who treats the club and us like a toy.
He did, Wath, but what a crappy voice 🙂
Surprised you all didn’t get launched Scott if he started with his dulcit tones
I hope they behaved and didn’t order any lamb in front of you 🙂
I’m off, time for a coffee n bit of tv before Uncle Ned…
Nite all
Maybe in your view Wath,
We all support in our own way, who’s to say who is right. At the end of the day if you feel you are not getting what you pay for a simple answer is not be a part of it.
I am no PR man for anybody, i am not against the board or owner, personally i feel that the club is heading in the right direction and every season i feel we are improving. But of course that is my view, i don’t expect Arsenal to clean up, i know we cannot compete financially with the rich clubs and i also believe we keep the position we hold because that’s our place at present.
I feel that the other sixteen teams below us would change places with us now, but many of them are in a worst position than us. That may not please you but they are the facts, i still say that nobody will hold it against you if you don’t go, in fact i could understand it. My bed time i will let you all chat Nte all.
Steve 7.39, I seem to remember you saying this was the worst Arsenal team you had seen in the last 50 years not so long ago !!!
Your posts are getting more and more bizzare by the day.
Rick 8.51, when tsgh says he only does away games, what he’s really saying is he enjoys his freebie’s down at the Bridge !
Hic!
What a load of bollocks!
Morning all, and what a lovely morning it is.
A big thanks to all involved in making last night possible as it was the icing on top for my Arsenal trip…I had a blast.
Was a hoot mate!
Sure was Lee, sure was.
Morning all. The HH Anglo / Antipodean link was firmly established last night and we all had a great time. Great mates and good food are a precious and wonderful thing so thanks to everyone involved.
And thanks to SP for those superbly comical comments on the post too. I do love a reasoned argument. 🙂
Morning all……
Today will be a blast as well…. Lol
Well said, Adam….it was a special evening.
Hiya Wath.
How goes it in S.A?
Off to write today post need to think of how to drum up some support for a protest seeing as wee on a witch hunt and everyone is being brainwashed…. I blame Kev….!
Mate it’s not raining for a change lol
Sun out and work to be done.
Morning Wath. A great shame you couldn’t be there last night. You were missed.
But I noticed you had your hands full on here mate. 🙂
As I see it, a post should be a debating point and reflect a point of view. If it wasn’t, then how could anybody produce one every day?
Anyway, it gave me a good laugh when I got home. 🙂
My opinion is that Wath’s to blame.
Guys, Just got confirmation that I am meeting Rockys sister tomorrow for a drink.
This trip is going to stay in my
Memory for a long, long time.
Thanks again for last night….it means a lot that people are going out of their way to meet Aussie Gooners.
Scott you’re still a………
😉
Takes one 🙂
Touche my friend!
WTF have I done now, it wasn’t me guv I promise…
Your both a pair… 🙂
I so prefer sitting in my chair and moaning Adam, such a stress reliever.
If it’s any consolation Adam I didn’t miss any of ya as I had the GG all to myself…..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/10728515/Manchester-Uniteds-decline-is-ba
Food for thought ! what can we read into this.
Sorry boys , / girls the link has gone.
However to give you the gist .
Peter Scudamore head of the Premier League speaking to a conference in South Africa has stated that due to their supporter base abroad , Manchester United’s success is paramount to the success of selling future rights to televising premier league matches abroad . He intimates that despite wishing to have a competitive league ,United recovering from their current slump would be good for the League in general.
That is unreal….