We’ve battered Wenger; we’ve battered Kroenke, now its van Persie’s turn!
Over the last few weeks, months, maybe even a few years, Arsene Wenger has been on the receiving end of a few damning comments – actually, reading around the blog world, some have been absolute gutter, not something I condone in all honesty. It’s all very well having an opinion but there is never much point in adding cruel, vile insults to a comment – especially when you think about what the man has done for us in the past.
We have also ripped into Stan Kroenke for what appears to be, his selfish, tight, non caring approach to his new role with OUR club. Ok, he’s not the wealthiest man in the world and his bank account was severely dented when he bought up his Arsenal shares but, I believe if he couldn’t afford to buy his shares and go on to invest in his ‘new project’, he shouldn’t have bought the shares in the first place.
If he has got the kind of funds to allow him to invest, they he’s been negligent in his duty as our majority share holder.
He may not be as wealthy as Roman Abramovich, but I don’t think any one Arsenal fan expected him to spend the kind of money that the Russian did when he took over at Chelsea, we just expected something, something to make us believe that him owning the majority shares was a good thing…
Anyway, on to today’s moan and that’s about Robin van Persie.
Anyone here on Highbury House knows that RvP is one of my favourite players, always has been and always will be – well, unless he jumps ship to another Premier League club.
When all the news came out about Robin not necessarily signing a new contract, I believed that we would soon hear the real side from the man himself, and most likely through his clubs own website.
Correct me if I am wrong but we have heard no such thing.
We read he is said to be ‘coy over his future’, he’s ‘non committal over his future’ – we have read that the vultures who are also known as Manchester City are just hovering, ready to pounce in January and yesterday, one report suggests that big spending Russian side, Anzhi Makhachkala are waiting to snare our captain.
Firstly, I am saddened that Robin has not come out and spoken a bit of truth, even if he said it’s true, he is thinking about where his future lay. He’s our captain, his manager, his team-mates and us fans deserve to know, don’t we?
If he really wants to quit, I think it’s a hug smack in the face for Arsene Wenger and all at Arsenal who have stood by him over the years….
In his long, injured career with us RvP has made 238 appearances; he’s scored 100 goals and has notched up 46 assists.
Not bad stats eh?
Too much of this Robin....
Not bad my butt, he joined us in 2004, he was 21 years old……..
He was no kid, not a mature player but, old enough to be classed as an experienced player in the Wenger terms.
So, in seven years with us, he has played in just 238 games, divide the two figures and that gives us an average of just 34 games a season….
Why just 34, well that is because he has been injured for so long, yet OUR club has supported him, stood by him and paid him through all that time, and that’s an awful lot of money we have given to a player who has recently been injured more than fit.
At this stage, some may cite other injured players, but they are not looking to leave, yes, maybe they should have been sold as they are not in the same league as Robin but nevertheless, they are not stalling on a new contract are they?
OUR club has looked after Robin van Persie over the years, now it’s payback time isn’t it?
Is this going to turn out to be yet another emotional appointment of a captain who ends up leaving?
And not enough of this 😉
Or will Robin van Persie give something back to the club that has stood by him throughout his career and sign on the dotted line?
Now that would be leading by example wouldn’t it?
Morning Rico.
Interesting post.
There certainly does seem to be something odd about who Wenger gives the armband to?
May i suggest that he immediately gives it to Squillaci….. 😉
Morning all…
Hi AK, I like that idea, but normally they hang around for one or two seasons before going 😉
Just been reading those two links AK, very interesting….
You can read, between the lines, i reckon, that Dennis would love to come home to Arsenal one day.
Maybe sooner than later.
For that matter i’d have both Dennis and Martin on the coaching staff.
Rico, i loved what Cryuff is doing at Ajax.
The old Board & Directors have all resigned….
what a lovely thought.
and then Cryuff has brought back all the ‘old greats’ to do the coaching throughout every level.
That’s how you inspire the kids and also pass on good habits…
It’s not rocket science is it?
I got that impression too AK, not to manage but to coach so he has time with his family – tehre’s a lot to be said about having old players back…
I also liked the fact that DB uses a few of MK’s words to inspire the kids…..
Morning good people….been busy lately. What’s been going on guys? What’s up with arsenal. Hi kev….how are you doing this morning? Hi mama bear….miss ya.
I chuckled when i read the bit about the board ‘soon resigned’ – who could be our Cryuff 😉
morning goonster, not much happening but today is the last international day so all the players should be back tomorrow…
JD, Squilli and Kos are all back for Sunday, i’m pleased about one of them 😉
Morning Rico, good post. I too am hoping he will lead by example and commit. He’s the one last world class player we have and it would be easy for him to jump ship but it would be nice if for once an Arsenal footballer remained loyal through the hard times
Oh the interlull is almost over? Wow. Didn’t even notice. Oh well come you gunners.
Not sure we have anyone of Cryuff’s stature Rico.
Tony Adams comes closest for me….
Morning Stan. Good to hear your busy. At work i hope. 😉
Morning Sam, well said….
I think he will sign too, he’ll be another loyal man like Dennis…
I see that West Ham’s ‘freebie stadium giveaway’ is close to collapse.
Give it to Leyton Orient i say…. 🙂
You could be right there AK…..
Now I am sure I read that somewhere else this moring AK 😉 😉
Did anyone come back injured? Hopefully, no?
Rico/Sam, i suppose it depends on the promises that have been made to him?
This contract will be his last one of any note.
And whilst it would be great to see him sign-on and do the loyal thing, i kinda wonder what i would do if i was in his shoes?
And have seen all the best players at the club flogged off and replaced by lesser lights….
Rico…. 😉
Hope Robin will sign soon think he is a true gunner and his hero is DB,So l think he will be like Dennise.
Hi Diane…don’t worry he ll sign. Don’t ask me how but just take it from me….kev I hear kos and djourou is back. About time too we need all our players fit and rearing to go. Any news on vermaelin? What about diaby?
not as yet goonster but there are matches today so anything can happen…….
AK, surely if he wanted only to line his pocket, he’d be long gone by now….
AK, very true in his shoes if they have lied to him and he can go to a club with bigger ambitions and more money I guess you can’t blame him but as Rico says his injury record really is awful, surely our loyalty to him counts for something?
Hope you are right Diane…
Thanks rico…hopefully we ll get them back in one piece. We need to smash stoke and sunderland to build momentum for the difficult winter months ahead. Wenger needs to get it right. Enough pussy footing already. Its time our season starts. The swampies are already 5 points ahead of us plus those scums have a game in hand. We can’t afford anymore slip ups. Its time to stand up and be counted cause I don’t like looking up to see a fat bloated scum over me. Its not a pretty sight starring up at a turd let alone one that’s as scummy as those bastards down the lane!
Sam – each season RvP has picked up an injury and gets ruled out for three months etc, most fans comment that he is a luxury player and maybe the club should sell him, then he comes back, scores loads of goals and he’s a hero again 😉
But, that’s also my point, when he does play he is usually fantastic for us – which brings me to the other two, Rosicky and Diaby.. 😉
morning all…AK,you know Breton’s Farm , Rainham? Was over there on Sunday watching my boy play…baptism of fire or what!!! 🙂
goonster, we do indeed need two very convincing home results…
Does anyone know if Nik is allowed to play agaisnt us?
Morning Lee
Hiya Lee.
I used to referee over Breton’s Farm.
And that was before i had my eyes tested… 😀
Offski for a spell.
See ya lata Gooners
Catch you later AK, have a good one…
I’m torn on this. Agree with the article that RVP does owe the club for its loyalty to him, but at the same time, it would be a massive shame for such an immensely talented player to go through his career without even winning the title. He is one of the few in our squad who would have fitted in with the invincibles without a problem. Maybe some of the others would have progressed better in a more mature environment, but RVP would be a big contributor even in that great squad.
Hi Davi, I can understand where you are coming from and to be honest, if i was him, i’d probably look elsewhere, in fact having read the interviews with DB, maybe Ajax…. I he does go, I just hope he doesn’t follow in the foosteps of Nasri, Clichy, Lardy etc etc….
Morning all
I think if we sign 1 or 2 quality players in January (I know that’s a huge IF) RVP will stay. I genuinely think he loves the club. His injury problem is annoying though(especially when he comes out in the paper like last year and I think the year before saying we need to do more, and start winning trophies – Maybe we would if our main striker was fit for more than half a season, Robin…..)
Hi Rocky, I agree but not last minute lidl jobs!!
Hi Lee. the sad thing is, you know that’s exactly what we’re getting!
Will it be too early for that classic of “like signing two new players”, when Jack & Bac come back!!
😉
haha!! Never too early for that little gem! In fact, I’d be mildly disappointed if he didn’t say it!
Two quality signings showing intent…. or b)!
Hi Rocky, if we believe all the rumours, we are going to be buying a load of players in january 😉
Probably get 2 youngsters “for the future”
I know that Stan is getting a lot of stick for his lack of involvement at the club, but I’m not sure it is all deserved.
I know Wenger is a God-like creature to many fans and since he is evidently responsible for everything good over the last 15 years, someone else must carry the can when it all starts to unravel. But our wrong tactics, poor coaching and failures in the transfer market surely pre-date Stans acquisition and are not even part of his function within the club. Do you really want us to become another Chelsea, where the owner changes manager on a seasonal basis and buys the players he wants. Listen to the wisdom of Brian Clough – he would have told you every team should have a chairman who lives 3,500 miles from yhe ground !
Just another point. If we have £50m in the tranfer pot and the fourth highest wages in the EPL, how does that translate into a lack of investment in the team by our major shareholder ?
Aldi Lee, they are the cheapest these days 😉
Apparently we ve agreed terms with a real for another spanish kid. Hmmm what happened to the last one we signed all those years ago? Oh yeah I remember he bailed on us just when we needed him the most. Do we even learn anything? Who lives like this? Spanish wonderkid my butt more like spanish wondershit…..boy I outta!
H Rico
I know! Enough for 2 new teams! There’s no way the majority of them will come if we are not at least in 6th or higher by Christmas.
Hi Goonster.
Is that the kid who said Fabregas apparently advised him to come to us? He probably advised him to sign an 8 year deal for a bunch of cash and piss off halfway through it as well….
Tell me about it rocky…..why won’t these pricks running our club go elsewhere or die if possible….another Spanish kid? Just what we need right now! Hey wait what about merida? Yeah I thought so.
If I see another “wonder kid” being linked to us am gonna lose it! We have enough of those right now….afobe wilshere ryo Campbell aneke ozyakup….who did I leave out? We don’t need anymore we need established players who ll take us to the next level…..not another bunch of bottlers.
😆 Rocky, crazy inst it, you are right though, we need to ba around the top four and looking a lot better to attract a few decent players….
We will be, i’m sure…
Don’t get me started on Ryo. I keep forgetting that guy even exists. After telling people to watch out for him at the start of the season, he’s nowhere to be seen.
I think we will be as well. This slump can’t continue much longer. a couple of strong, spirited performances (and as long as we keep mugs like Squid and Djourou from being anywhere near the first team) and I think we’ll be ok.
Im not sure he owes the club anything. He gives his all when fit and you can not hold a player responsible for injurys unless they are self inflicted. Once you sign a contract with a player it must be honored and regardless if he is injured or not he must be paied. if RvP is considering his future I can fully understand him and my anger would be at the manager and board and not him, they have time and time again failed to strengthen our squad properly and it’s no wonder our star players are leaving….who wants to be earning just a little more than Denilson Almunia and co and still be expected to carry the team?
Ryo and Park – when are we going to see them both?
Hi TT, also there is the matter of letting him go off on international duty when he’s only just back to fitness, that’s often when he gets injured again… The club should be a bit more strict about lettung players go off and play for their country, just look at Kos, not fit for us but has been in the french squad…
Got to pop off for a couple of hours, back later…..
Does anyone think Wenger will sign anyone in January? Also didn’t Gazidas say we won’t?
Did he say that before or after Arsenal’s dismal start to the season?!
I thought he said it at the meeting the other day at that Footbal;l Business Forum at Chelsea, same time he told us all that Arsenal don’t need CL football
Gazidis speak with fork tongue……..!
TT, spot on re RVP, it’s all well and good going on about player loyalty and if he turned round and said am running down my contract to get a big fat signing on fee with a new club then thats bang out of order but I think RVP is realistic enough to want to see what new players we buy and how good they are before he basically signs the rest of his career over to Arsenal. I’d want to know that we have a chance to compete and win trophies and at the moment where a million miles away from being able to compete.
Supported him and stood by him ? He owes us ? Bullshit. You’re forgetting that he also stood by US. He’s given us seven years of service, despite his injury record. So the ledger is now balanced. He’s probably going to leave. And why should we blame him ? It was on the cards for quite a while. Season after season he and the rest of the team have been duped by Wenger ‘s false assurances of success, that never materialise. He’s seen us promise to bring in quality players, only to see average ones at best, and crap at worst. He’s had enough of the club’s lies and deceit. He wants to win trophies, and he knows he won’t here.
He’s 29, and realises his time is running out. I don’t blame him for wanting to go. We’re not ambitious, and we’re not serious about winning things. The management stand condemned for their neglect. It’s likely to cost us our captain and our last truly world class player. Shameful.
” In Arsene we rust.”
Good Afternoon friends and chicks.
The appointment of a captain can be either emotional, cultural or directional. 3 of the last 4 captains, namely Vieira, Henry, Fabregas and I daresay were all emotional. Gallas was seen in an ideal way as directional, and before his babyish stropp at Birmaingham when Clichy singlehandedly threw away 2 points and subsequen childish behaviour, his leadership skills came to the fore. However he lacked one thing, namely HENCHMEN. Take TA6 for example. He had his own henchmen doinghis job for him in Seaman, Keown, Winterburn, Dixon and Bould. Once when a player shouted something back at TA6 Seaman caught him by the scruff of the neck, pinned him to the wall and told him that no one speaks to the captain like that. Gallas did not have that. His chance of captaining a team to a medal expired with the moment of madness of one of his close friends….Clichy. So in reality Gallas was alone.
Do we have that at the emirates?? No we do not. we have several cliques, but we do not have a leader with a strong tribal following like TA6 had. We need to rediscover that fast. Otherwise there will be no identity anymore at the emirates.
Arsenal need a captain who leads them by example, but at the same time he needs them behind him looking the same way as he does. Look at the ladies team for that.
This will be rvp’s last deal where he is in the driving seat, I think if he wanted to extend it could be sorted out fairly quickly.
He must be holding out, waiting on re-assurances from wenger, not sure if thats a good or bad thing.
He won the fa cup with us in 2005, seems like a long time ago now.
Any player worth his salt Micko wants to win things and have medals it’s not all about money and when is enough not enough when it comes to a paycheck when you look at your cabinet and there are no medals or trophies….!
Good point DG….! We lack leaders and fighters in the squad and have done for years now.
GS, I hope he does, we still have a lack of depth in the squad, the only problem is we know wenger hates the january transfer window but this season is very different to others, we need to bring a couple of players in who can help push us on and make us stronger, the league takes priority over everything from now on.
Wath, is chamakh worth his weight in salt ?
No but he is in Camel dung…
The most difficult part in getting a team to gel together, and I speak from first hand experience, is not getting the tactics right. Its making the players feel responsible for each other. Its a tribal thing, where everywhere from the manager to the youngest player in the under 9 will get villified if he commits a mistake which sets back the club. At the same time, and for this look back to the game against Lazio in the old FAIRS cup way back in the early 70’s (AK knows what I am speaking about), where one player was attacked, Kennedy I think, and suddenly McClintock led the charge. That is the captain we need. A Leader who loves the club, but more importantly has the henchmen. Wenger put that out of the window………so that no one can do to him what Joanne Therese did to Josephine Maureen at the Chavs.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2047630/Martin-Keown-life-Arsenal-Dennis-Bergkamp.html
These two could make such a difference at Arsenal at the moment…….and Viera….if only we had brought back Viera…
TT, have you seen the price of camel dung these days !
DG, think it was Radford and Storey that charged in with Mclintock to sort out the Lazio problem…! Same when you look back at Keown at old trafford where we showed them big time don’t fuck with one of ours we ain’t having it…! We don’t have that spirit now nowhere near it.
TT not sure I’d waste dung on chamakh less it was for a one way tkt somewhere…..
Devil, it was the same with adams in the 90’s, he would often be the first to run the whole length of the pitch followed by the rest of the team if he thought a team mate was in trouble, we were renound for it, often the only player left in our half was the goalkeeper, who remembers norwich and man u, we were heavily fined and docked points but it just made us stronger as a team.
Hi WATH, so has RVP been on £20k per week more than the waiter??
Spot on Micko if you all stick together it shows other teams we won’t be bullied and thats exactly what happens now when the going gets tough, we hide and vanish…!
If the stories are to be believed Lee yep it seems he’s on 20k more than the waiter and only 10k more than Diaby…! and 20k less that AA..????? who’s supposed to be on 90K..! ?!?!?! again only rumours and gossip though.
Wow…. Arshavin on £90K….!
What a waste of money.
Mind you, Denilson, Diaby, Eboue, Bendtner, Almunia, and on and on and on….
Who is responsible for these contracts?
I was under the impression that it was Edelman/Friar/Gazides et al.
Apparently it’s wenger AK…..! Squilli to that list as well as chamakh AK…!
But as Wath said, with RVP, i don’t think it’s just about money…
Well if that is correct Wath, once again i totally blame The Board.
Wtf do those useless tossers do?
Not a lot it seems.
If the players you listed were on 25/35k instead of 50/60K that would mean an extra 100/130k a week available to pay top players an extra 30k a week !! Doesn’t need anyone to be a rocket scientist to work that out does it, add Vela to that and others out on loan and you soon see where our wages vanish too and also add the execs wages on that as well…! Far to much for doing very little it seems… If another blog is 2b believed today gazidis got a 60% bonus last year…? thats fuckin outrageous if true as what did he do to warrant that..? utter joke..!
I bet David Gill does all the up at Old Toilet.
Apparantly Gill is on £1.8m per annum.
Gazides is on £1.7m p.a.
We’ve been had..!
Get pissed at every home game AK and tell the fans we don’t know anything abt football is all they do, Oh and line their own pockets…! They good at that…..!
Yeah, i saw that too Wath, unbelievable.
These are the kind of people running our club….. frightening, gazidis takes spin to a new height, makes Alastair campbell look like an amatuer…!
Boo! rico, Robin will stay. 🙂 You don’t have to worry about your favorite pair of thighs. 😀
Hello, AK and WATH. 🙂
No wonder these fuckers are happy lurking about on these over-inflated contracts…no wonder there’s no fire in their bellies….no wonder no other clubs came in to buy them….Who sanctions these contracts? FFS it’s a joke…i mentioned on here the other day that WATH (I think) mentioned that JET crashed/wrote off a £200k motor when he was 19yrs old!!!
Tbh, i lost faith totally in Silent, when he failed to sack all the hangers-on in our Boardroom.
to me, he lost a great opportunity to get the fans on side.
Doubt if many fans will ever have any faith in him again.
Not that i suppose he gives a toss.
My thighs are quite good too ya know agag… 😉
Lee, maybe that explains all the Spaniards in our youth team… ££££££££££££££££££££££££
Yep it was JET in a Maclaren Mercedes 200k’s worth wrapped round a lamp post…! to much money to young to soon rewarded for what..? where is the carrot and the ambition when at 19 you think your made for life and your set….! It’s utter bollox…!
Spot on AK, he could of swept the room clean started new and make a statement of intent yet he obviously just happy to milk the cash cow and keep the status quo….!
Evening AGAG…
Wow, I wan’t aware that our players were paid such staggering sums of money for doing little/nothing. 😉 Tut tut.
Hi, Lee. 🙂
I read that Keown article where he is with Dennis and it saddens me that these ppl are not involved at Arsenal, clearly Arsenal men through and through who are hurting like we are watching our club decline and struggle….! Very sad…!
AK, rico would be happy to know that your thighs are tiptop. Haha.
How are you, WATH?
Fine thanx AGAG how’s you…? surviving all the winds and rain I hope..?
Wath, that’s one of the pluses from the loan system, as far as British players are concerned. It soon weeds out the ‘Big Time Charlie’s’…
JET is another David Bentley, Jay Bothroyd.
hiya AGAG….It’s ridiculous we reward mediocrity so well…who the fuck rubber stamps these contracts?
I’ll tell ya what Wath, you kinda get the feeling, reading between the lines, that both Dennis AND Martin, would dearly like to say more….
Wenger does Lee, that’s what’s said, he says who is to earn what and for what length of contract…!
Yes AK, but they are classy gooners!
Time and motion study of the squad….
I think Keown is keeping himself quiet as he obviously would love a job at the club so there is noway he’s going to upset the apple cart by saying to much and he’ll be as diplomatic as possible…!
These stories abt wenger picking the next manager are rather worrying as well if thats got any credability to it what so ever its also total bollox, what exactly is the board there for if they are going to do sweet FA all the time, they are there to pick the next manager not wenger nor anyone else for that matter. It’s worse than a circus if 50% of the rumours are true….!
actually someone mention motion Chamack & AA….might be a step in the right direction!! 🙂
Well enough, WATH missing sunny weather. I hope you’re okay, just read you’ve been sick. Too many pink drinks, I suspect. 😛
Lee, must be Gunnersaurus. 😀
AK, I wish they wuld return in some capacity. 🙁
Not enough alcohol it seems AGAG otherwise I’d not of got flu…..!
We reward failure and mediocrity which in turn breeds apathy and lack of ambition and a winning/fighting mentality…! If your not made to fight for a decent contract and it falls in your lap that reflects how we play on the pitch…! No fight when it matter and doesnt go our way…!
Agag, Cruyff has taken control at Ajax and brought back all the great old players as coaches.
Why didn’t Arsenal get Vieira back?
Why isn’t Keown offered a coaching role?
Why has Bould refused, up till now, a senior coaching role?
Why hasn’t Bergkamp been approached about coming home?
Lee, don’t know if its been mentioned already but JET didn’t even have a full licence at the time i believe.
Agag, i’ve got some jobs to do in the garden, so i’ll see ya and Lee and Wath lata.
Micko now you mention that abt JET think your right……..!
Wenger won’t want any of those players around AK they are to famous and may disagree with his ideas and challenge his thoughts, he won’t have that, why you think he has the same staff surround him year in year out… change means he may be questioned about tactics and ideas and thats not going to happen…!
Plastering, AK?? 🙂 Have fun. I think having DB and/or Keown would be great for a club, which right now is quite frankly, rudderless.
Have a shot of your grey feathered friend then, WATH. 😉 Good comment on 3:05.
Hello, Micko.
The thing with what DB10 is saying is that noone can accuse him of wanting some media attention or looking to pamper his ego he doesnt need it and isn’t like that so his comments are sensible and from the heart every Arsenal fan will read them and think well he’s not biased he is merely saying it as he see’s it….. Maybe we need more comments from him that make fans and the club sit up and take note…!
Lata AK, watch that old back of yours fella don’t go over doing it 😉
hello!
The Lyon president Jean-Michel Aulas, has rejected a proposal by Yoann Gourcuff in the last transfer window in summer.
“I received an offer from Arsenal for Gourcuff but said he sold simply because he signed for 5 years and believe him,” he told French daily “Le Progrès”.
Classes held that the player “was expensive” but that will not undermine the financial health of the club:
“It sure was expensive but so far can not be said to have punished the club financially. Gourcuff failed to recognize that to be the best level in the early days, but I believe we will still see the best of it.”
The French international was signed by Lyon to Bordeaux in August 2010 for 22 million euros.
It was no coincidence that in the early tony adams era a lot of those players came through the ranks together or within a couple of years of each other and would fight tooth and nail for the cause, we don’t have that these days, hopefully players like frimpong, cheezer, coquelin, lansbury, wilshire, afobe given half the chance will change that in the next few years, these guys all have a bond that can’t be bought, add some quality players to that and the team will compete again.
Park gets another international goal….see ya AK!
it’s not a cheaper player…
Anyone know of psychological tests for Bendtner? One expert said he had never seen anything like that because in a scale from 1 to 10 Bendtner is 10!
what purpose? The fact is related that whenever a goal fails, blame the other never was it! It seems that Pat Rice made a comment about it …
Apparently we already have central defenders for Sunday … the bad news is that we will play again, against 14 ….
It’s time we gave Park a berth. No point having purchased him otherwise.
Spot on Micko, the ones coming through are mates and will fight for each other, add class to them and they may just put things right but it’s a big if….!
Hey JM, Gourcuff was also injured in the summer transfer window, not sure about the Bendtner comment…. i’d give him -10…!
Seems our players always blame something but that also comes from the staff they always seem to have an escuse noone takes responsibility which is nice that Chezny said the sperz goal was his fault….! Well done to him for accepting he should of stopped it, now for others to be as honest in their performances.
Hi agag, rvp and park up front, what have we got to lose, sounds fine to me.
Micko, seeing how indifferent Chamakh’s form has been, now would be as good a time as any to play Ju.
Absolutely, my only doubt about him was his match fitness but he has shown everyone this week his is fully fit and has goals in him,
not much more else he can do to impress wenger.
Take AW to Vegas….
Don’t have a problem with that as long as he leaves his mobile at home.
why Vegas? Whats wrong with the southpole
If you took AW to vegas wouldn’t he be constantly trying to haggle with the croupier over the minimum bets? 😉
Afternoon guys and gals, that’s all my christmas shopping started and finished whilst Fido had a hair cut – happy days eh 🙂
I see the rusty man popped on and off again 😉
Christmas shopping, I thought that was the whole point of the 24th december.
26th even better then everything is half price! 🙂
Typical males 😆
The garage shop Micko!!! Classic 🙂
Boo, rico! Got a lot done today, I see. 😉 I haven’t begun mine. 🙁
Rico, AW could take a leaf out of your book!!! 😉
agag, i’m always getting a lot done, it just seems to take ages to get it done 😉
I’m sure i will end up having to do more shopping 😉
Lee – I wish he would too, I’d have a couple signed on the dotted line by now 😉
You been watching Cahill for England?
Was rusty springboard on here earlier..?
AGAG just shops 365……. 😛
Did Lidl have sales on Rico..?
Hi Wath, rusty was on here, and then went…
Lidil, haven’t been anywhere near one today, that’s tomorrow 😉
Who’s rusty? Tell me about it, rico. 🙁 Work never ends. Argh.
WATH, I wish. 😉
agag, the ‘in arsene we rust’ blogger…..
not good to hear you are working so hard….. 🙁
Off to get dinner, back after….
Ah ha, seems i missed my old ‘mate’ Sp*nktrum.
Ahhh, that blogger. Working hard in preparation for not working at all, you know how it is. 😀
So agag, it’s Christmas shopping 12 months of the year for you then….? 😀
Gotta do mine first week of November.
Just gotta dodge the fireworks…
And Guido Fawlkes. 🙂
AK, I wish. 🙂 I’m doing mine third week of November while on my last hols for the year. 🙂
More holidays…….. blimey agag, you have more time off than Wath….. 🙂
Look whose talking……..AK you have holidays as much as you work on the wheel.
Back to the nuthouse for me, in a couple of days agag…. 🙁
Seven this year, AK. 😎 Tut tut. You should go on one, and quick.
Nah, WATH is the official vacationer here. 😉
Ere, don’t you start…. 😉
Finished coaching DG..?
SEVEN..! You have more holidays that Thomas Cook… 😀
And yes, i really could do with a change of scenery agag… Bali looks nice… 😉
Like the vid, AK. 🙂 These bikers are hopeless. 😀 You should look for vids of traffic in Saigon. Crossing the streets there is a death wish. 🙂 Exciting stuff!!!
Check this out agag
Did someone mention lifes a beach…………???????
Make mine a double while your at the bar please AGAG..!!
I’ll ask rico to send you photos of my Krabi hols. I love Thailand.
Hello, DG, how are you?
Why not a quadruple, WATH? Would save me a second trip. 😛
I loooove Saigon.
Oui AK. Finished training for today. And I came back with a splitting headache, a sore throat and blocked nostrils. And that means danger when I have all three at once. It means that soon it will be in prison for three to four days and that for me is like a cage. I want to stay outside not in the bloody bedroom.
Good evening to all guys and Chicks.
…as for fresh air there is no place like my favourite place….the dolomite alps in Italy. That is the place where I call HOME.
DG, that sounds lovely. But cold. Yikes.
Thought provoking post rico, About Robin,
I heard on talksport today that a four year deal has been offered to him, how true that is i don’t know, if it is true that worries me, yes robin has and is doing the business for us, but i am thinking of Chamberlain and Campbell, Campbell should get a visa for next year, now of course we don’t know how these players will turn out but the early signs are very promissing, now if this offer has been made and robin accepts it he will be 32 and his career would almost be at an end but i would imagine a hefty pay rise to keep him may prove to be a burden if these young players do the business, i like Robin but four years seems too long to keep a player with his history, I like the idea of young strikers and if i speak the truth i don’t see Robin leaving half as bad as Fabregas, Henry was an instinctive striker but he was here a year to long, at Robins age he will only go down.
Not as cold as Scotland Agag. You should be there training with shorts and short sleeves. I did it and was running around like a madman to keep warm.
I am off. Goodnight, all. rico, I hope dinner was good. 🙂
depends where AW or whoever is manager plays him, Steve. If he continues to play centreforward he will not last more than one and a half year from now. If he plays as a 2nd striker and given breathing space every 4 to 5 games than he will give us 3 more years from now. IMO I would get him to sign a contract then flog him off to ANZHI for around 35 to 40 million seeing that they want to pay.
goodnight AGAG
Good points DevilG you could be right there.
Night AGAG,
DG, RVP def isn’t a striker and pointed out by the great man himself DB10, used as a provider he’s got plenty years left in him but lone striker he’ll only do 25 games a season if history tells us anything.
Nighty agag, Evening Steve and DG….
I read that too steve about RvP being offered a bumper deal – i honestly believe we need to keep hold of him, he’s one of a few players who have been with us for a good few seasons – but, I totally understand what you are saying too…. 😉
Goodnight agag
Robin scores we know that, but we also know that Theo also wants to play up top, what with The ox Gagging to play as well we will not be able to keep them all happy, and if players are kept waiting for too long we may never see their true potential Chamakh is still there even Vella may or may not come back Nickb could also be back I know we have to play these youngsters and see exactly what we have, a four year deal seems a very long time to me and i think its only been offered to save face
Gotta say, i think RVP could do the No.10 job well into his mid-30’s…
He has a football intelligence that we lack ‘In the Hole’.
As Steve says, Campbell, Oxo and maybe Theo…and don’t forget Benik, could leadf the attack in 12 months time.
But imagine RVP loading the bullets…
But as I told you dear friends….until we have a captain who manages to have all the team behind him looking in the same way and all the players work for each other in the way all successful teams do it is pointless how many players you buy or if they are world class or not. And in that environment all AW can do is get players, get into the CL every year and flog off the best players (and replace them) for good amounts of money. Get in a good striker (around the 10mill fee) instead of RVP, sell him for the 35 million ANZHI offer and make a 25million profit in the process.
I also think that the retention of RVP is vital psychologically.
Lose RVP after all the quality we’ve lost in recent seasons, and what kind of club do Arsenal look like?
It’s all about perceptions…
Mind you a top four finish is as important!
I understand completely what your saying Steve about 4 years.
But the Board, i feel, have to send out a positive message, and we could all do with some positivity around our club, for a change.
Steve – did you see the article in the Daily mail about Keown with Dennis?
Agree AK. but TW14 will never be the true centreforward we crave for. He needs to work off a bigger man in a 4-4-2. Not good in 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1. He was bought up in a 4-4-2 at Southampton and that is how he will play for ever and ever Amen. His brain only works one way. Oxo has a better brain than him but will never be a leader of the attack. He is more suited to the wings.
Campbell has the size, presence and speed of thought that Theo lacks. TW has only speed of legs and that is ok with high line defences. but look at his finishing. Hardly the Henryesque, Rush, Aldridge and Van Nistleroy type.
AK, we have a great crop coming through but i agree, someone like RvP should be kept at all cost, these youngsters need a player to look up to – RvP had the great Dennis Bergkamp, maybe RvP can do the same …….
No i didn’t rico whats it about.
I must admit i also don’t see Theo as the top man, he misses far too much for me and i still don’t know if he has ever headed a ball
DG, how about playing Theo on the left, a la Bobby, where he can cut inside and have a shot, rather than crossing from the right, which he is a bit hit & miss at.
http://www.arsenalnews.co.uk/when-martin-keown-met-dennis-bergkamp-at-the-ajax-talent-factory/link/95907/
For you Steve
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2047630/Martin-Keown-life-Arsenal-Dennis-Bergkamp.html
And again Stevo
They are really good articles Steve, AK posted them last night, long after i had gone to bed 😉
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2047630/Martin-Keown-life-Arsenal-Dennis-Bergkamp.html
http://www.arsenalnews.co.uk/when-martin-keown-met-dennis-bergkamp-at-the-ajax-talent-factory/link/95907/
I’m watching Bendtner now…
Too slow boss…… 😆
😛 AK, you beat me to it ….
RVP has always been suited to a second striker role. It’s just that we abandoned 2 up front to accomodate Cesc, Now however we have the chance to change and have options to play him deeper with a striker in front.
That is my idea also AK. Put him on the left with OXO on the right. I daresay Chamack as a centre forward with RVP behind him. With Song and Arteta/Wilshere behind them it might work. But he has to make it work.
Also I would like to point out a mistake AW is doing with tactics. He teaches the defence to act like he used to do in 4-4-2/4-4-1-1 with the successful teams he had, but forgets that now he uses a flexible 4-2-3-1. I the latter the fullback must not push upfield as much as in 4-4-2/1-1 where they could double up as wingers while the lateral men like BP, FL cut inside thus flooding the midfield. So what happens is that TW,AA etc cut inside the penalty box but not in midfield and that means that the two centrebacks/defensive midfielder are left exposed. So we have a back four who act as in 4-4-2/1-1 but a midfield who acts as the 2-3-1 should. In other words the players are caught between two stools or like a rabbit in the headlamps. And they do not have a clue how to solve it.
TBH neither AW knows how to solve it. And I do not know either since it cannot be solved.
DG, at times we have 5 man midfield, but still cannot shield the centre-backs!
I just wish that Arsene would go back to the system he used when we used to win things.
Boring old British 4 4 2…
That is how its supposed to be AK. But with TW, AA lazing it up with RVP and two of our midfielders around the box plus the fullbacks bombing out on the wings the centrebacks are left exposed. With 4-4-2 etc you can fill the holes or gaps but with 4-2-3-1 you cannot unless you have Essien and his clone.
Secondly our players are never taught how to channel players to play in areas where they can do least damage. but allow other players to dictate us where we play. Moiurinho is master at that. Likewise Pulis. you play where they are least vulnerable. that is why we get lots of possession but with little end product. We do not attack areas where we can hurt the other team….and we end up being gazumped with their first attack of note since we are all at sea when defending.
Yeh yournright blinding read. thank you
Hi JM,
how’s Nikki doing… missing many chances or burying them??
steve, they both love and worry about us…..
Who is responsible for these contracts?
I was under the impression that it was Edelman/Friar/Gazides et al.
W.A.T.H says:
October 11, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Apparently it’s wenger AK.
Dick Law oversees all of these dealings, could be that Wenger sets them up but they are not passed until Law agrees.
I always tell my players that they need to stop the opposition from getting the ball in our half. And that means that the attack have to start defending from up there. And that means they have to do the petty fouls in the attacking third. That allows my player to regroup and fill the channels between the departments. And it works since we have around 9 to nine players behind the ball when defending.
Guys, i’m done for the day… ..
Thanks for making HH have another good day, without you all, it would be nothing…..
Stay safe, catch you all tomorrow..
Night all…..
gd nite Rico. Sleep well and dream that RVP is hoisting the Champions league. We Wiiiiiiiissssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh
Welcome Keith, sorry for the delay in getting one, all first comments go into moderation…
4-4-2 any day of the week for me….
AK will run naked across the Trafalgar square if we do. At least that is what I hear on the grapevine. lol
Thanks devil, he may just do that yet eh 😉 😉
Night….
Good nite all. Cu tomorrow
Do What?????
I turn my back for 5 mins to make a cuppa and i’m suddenly streaking…… Not a good idea believe me!
Goodnight Rico. Sleep tight boss.
goodnight DG. Take care habib.
Shit website (like most reporting on The Arsenal!!) but apparently the Drog stalling on a new contract, now he’s a chav cast off I’d have in a heartbeat…. Wouldn’t cost fortunes and he’d score buckets!! The youngsters learn off him….add M’Vila & Cahill, and we’re laughing!!!!! 🙂
Now i know that coaching nowadays is part and parcel of football, but what sombody said the other day seems about right, that you play the players in their rightfull positions . when i and many of you played you had your favorite position and you learn the position inside out, I was a centre forward and i would stand on the last man and expect to have a good ball passed through or beat the centre half or full backs i had it off to a tee because it worked and i would tweak it when somthing worked better, we have injured players and standins playing perhaps a different position, what they do is what the manager has told them its not happening naturally
Sweet dreams, Rico….
Is That Right Potter?
If so, then you have to question his business acumen?
Maybe we should have people in those areas of the club, who understand football, rather than ‘soccer’ people…
Evening Lee.
How did your lad go in his football?
Gotta say that i miss my eldest lads’ football on a Sunday morning.
He was quite a nippy little striker.
Missed your comment Keith.
Absolutely agree mate.
Hi AK, they came second to upminster rovers 9-0….
Was you good with the old barnet Steve?
Nte rico and nte all
What age group Lee?
My boy started at Under 8’s. Just friendlies.
Didn’t play until Under 10’s if i recall.
Pitches were rediculous. Far too big for little kids.
Goodnight Steve.
Great chat mate.
U11’s AK
NB got a goal
Russia won 6-0 wonder if lazy nuts scored?
France losing and could play ROI in play-offs
you just caught me AK you old dog, Yeh i thought i was a lot better than i actually was thats why i don’t mind players being a bit cocky, but i must admit i was not playing against this kind of quality, but i never remember missing that amount of chances. everybody says the ball is different nowadays but its round and pumped up, most players seem to pass the ball from one side of the pitch to the other whats so different in front of goal
Stop press…. Scotland might not make the Euros!!!
Bale knows where the goal is
I think the Ox does too….
Hope your right Lee. Nte all
Night SP.
yes, NB scores
Did Arshavin scire any goal? I only saw him make corners
I must have got it wrong then Lee.
Maybe it was friendlies at Under 10’s.
Then league games at Under 11’s.
My other son plays U8’s and they’re friendlies…..
Arsenal’s still being linked to Hulk.
Totally underwhelmed by that news.
Those idiots at Porto are talking about some kind of insane transfer fee.
How in earth can you take Porto seriously?
Lee, it was a long time ago….. 🙂
Longer than i care to remember. 🙁
Is Frimpong playing for Ghana tonite?
Hence my video comment earlier…. 😉
Hulk not for me!!
What is Hulk’s get out clause???
£78million.. 😆 😆 😆
Potter how long has Laws been around…? not that long for so many contracts to be far to over the odds for the kind of players we’ve signed up…! It’s all down to what wenger wants them paid…!
Agree with the 4-4-2 and our midfield being poor but even 4-5-1 don’t help as we still have 4 players in said formation who have no idea how to defend, Song is supposed to be a defensive midfielder yet still fancies himself as Pele….! Hence the defence gets very little or no cover.
Don’t think Frim is playing.
Hope not.
Don’t want him involved in the ACN.
Another overrated player IMHO Ibrahimavic…
Yes Lee, we can’t move for over-rated, under-motivated, millionaire footballers.
Meanwhile our ticket prices and Sky Sports subscription continues to rocket.
Players and agents still living in a fantasy world.
No wonder Wenger doesn’t want to spend?
He’s always flattered to deceive Lee, buddles of skill and raw talent but very little application…..!
We’ve a Russian one them…….
Make you right there Lee……..! Such a waste…!
It’s good night from me! Sleep well Gooners!!!!
You Tube is full of ‘Superstars’ eager to come and play in England, because they “love the atmosphere” [££££££££££].
Goodnight Lee.
I’m offski Wath.
See ya tomorrow buddy.
Cheers Lee,
AA is another who could play the 2nd striker role and with a decent midfield we wouldnt miss him not putting a shift in either we’d just want him making goals and scoring, do you really ask a player like AA to get back tackle and get stuck in when you want him hurting people at the other end of the pitch..?
Take it easy AK…..
W.A.T.H. this might give a bit more information :- Dick Law, who helped bring Gilberto Silva and Carlos Vela to Arsenal, has become the club’s fixer on transfer deals and the re-negotiation of contracts for existing players.
From the Independant 19 .nov 2009. Apparently he was working with the club from 2005 but took over the Dein role in 2009.
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