Tale of two Russians – one's a Flop and the other is out to cause a Battle!

For the pedantic out there, of course I know that Alisher Usmanov is in fact from Uzbek, but these days he is referred to as being a  Russian businessman, so for me, he’s Russian…. 😉

The other Russian is our own Andrey Arshavin, he too made the news yesterday….

First up though and possibly the most important, in fact in my own opinion, the best news, relates to an article in The Daily Mail.

Their reporter, Samir Mokel, wrote an article about Usmanov and about how he could instigate a boardroom battle as he wants to increase his shares in OUR club.

We all know he is the second largest shareholder and his stake currently stands at just over 29%. Speculation is that he wants to increase this to 30% and will try and do so by buying from OUR clubs ‘smaller’ shareholders in the next few days and make an offer of £14,500 per share.

Should he be successful, he will be eligible for the Premier League’s owners and directors test.

Should he pass, which no doubt he would, he could go on to secure a seat on the board at OUR club.

The question is of course, would this current mixed bunch of old fogies and tight arses offer him such a seat?

He’s the 35th richest man in the world guys, let’s hope all goes well and the shareholders sell to him, then let him start knocking on the door, loudly!

I’m sure I’m right in saying that should the big fella get his 30% shares, he gets to look at the books and he can see exactly what has been going on and exactly where OUR club stand financially.…

Now that is surely worth him getting what he wants alone isn’t it?

Our major shareholder is expected in town later this month for OUR clubs AGM, wonder how many times now he’s been in London?

Not many I am sure, the last time he watched OUR team play and that is reported to have been back in April….

Compare that to the Big Russian…..

That takes me nicely onto our little Russian, he’s been talking to OUR clubs website:

‘They should expect more from me, of course. They should expect some more tricks, goals and unbelievable passes.

‘To be honest, I am still expecting more from me as well.’

‘But, believe me; I do everything I can do. I just must give everything I can at the moment.’

We don’t want the tricks and flicks do we but we could sure do with a few more goals and yes, to be honest, Arshavin should be doing a lot more, he’s one of most experienced players and should be showing the younger ones the way.

Good to hear him speak honestly though, especially if he’s given himself a hoof up the jacksie…..

Despite him thinking he hasn’t been at his best, does he really deserve the headline that The Sun has given him??

I don’t think so either, no-one really stands out this season for OUR team so far do they?

Let’s hope that Sunday see’s that start to change eh…..

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devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Morning Rico. Good post and good comparison. At least the little one realises that he can do more. Unlike some of the money grabbers who left us for the Sheik’s loose change.

Is it number one for me again today???

Gooner Sam
Gooner Sam
14 years ago

Morning Rico, I’m not sure about the other matches but Kroenke was at the Arsenal v Liverpool match as I shook his hand……if only I knew then what I know now…..

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

Oui I did. And I do think he is a bit unfortunate. He lost it when he was becoming steady. But that’s life. I became sick three days ago when I started enjoying working and that’s a pity. Now I know that when I go back I will have lost that appetite.

Onto football matters, cos if I mention work again I will suddenly have a heavier bout of sickness and that’s unacceptable, I am as mistified as every one else why the present situation has been allowed to occur. I mean, every living person wants to say that he is the top. So why do the board and manager aim for fourth??

I always strive to aim to be the top in my aims. It buggers beyond belief that someone aims for fourth. Bein fourth means that you are the 3rd looser.

Being FIRST is not everything. Its the ONLY THING.

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

What would you have done GS. Shaken his hand with the right and the rest of his body and somewhere else with the left???

Gooner Sam
Gooner Sam
14 years ago

The one in April when Eboue the clown gave away a penalty in the diying seconds. I just really hope that some of these mall share holders realise that we need to get Usmanov properly in the mix ASAP

Gooner Sam
Gooner Sam
14 years ago

Devil…..maybe…..or maybe just squeezed his hand a little harder 😉

TT
TT
14 years ago

I read somwere that Kronke can not load the club with his dept unless he owns more than 75 % of the shares. Can anyone comfirm this?

devilgunner
devilgunner
14 years ago

If what TT says is true than its better if AU gets over the 30% threshold. We need him to represent the supporters who want the club’s best interest at heart.

My personal opinion is that AFC should be like Barcelona is regarding the Directors where they get elected every few years. That makes every one accountable. And it does help the club be on a more safe footing.

Its like the emperor giving Rome back to the people to end the corruption crippling it.

potter
potter
14 years ago

Rumour has it that he needs 400 shares and that their are 200 tied up in probate as the holders have unfortunately died. If he can get these from the estates he could be within a shout of getting them.

All figures approximate.

Steve
Steve
14 years ago

I’m not blamimg you for discussing this but what is new in the Usmanov story. He’s been hoovering up small shareholdings for years. I haven’t read the Telegraph article, but I suspect there is a lot of very old archive material there.

Sounds more like someone looking for internet hits and Arsenal in turmoil is always a good link.

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Perhaps the price of beans in Guatemala may have been more appropriate !

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Rico, the current board seem quite content to get rich of the back of the club and are not interested in entertaining Usmanov, if he could get these shares he’s looking for then they would have no option but to give him a seat on the board, I’d love to be a fly on the wall the day that happens.

TT
TT
14 years ago

They do not have to give him a seat on the board but they must open the books to him.

Chris
Chris
14 years ago

I must admit I can’t be giong with all this we need an enormously rich owner whatever his past or background.

I appreciate the realities of trying to win trophies (and i do think the team hasn’t played well in the Prem for ages and that this is going to be a long, possibly disastrous season)

AND I fully appreciate I can’t do anything about it anyway

but I absolutely hate the idea of Usmanov.

rico
rico
14 years ago

Boo – i’m having computer problems guys… hopefully will be sorted in a while, it’s at the menders….

TT
TT
14 years ago

Why Chris? Is he much worse than some of the other owners? What about Abramovich and the oil shaiks. Is their past that clean if we look into it? And as for colorful and dodgy owners we are hardly without “checkered past” If memory serfs me right Henry Norris was hardly a beacon of honesty was he? I know rape allegations have been leveled at Usmanov but was that ever proven?

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
14 years ago

good morning
See you later

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

TT, not everyone wants a sugar daddy as an owner, our board liked to be known as custodians at one time, PHW a couple of years back said something like he didn’t want the likes of kroenke and usmanov anywhere near the club and then realised he could make a massive profit selling off some of his shares to the american.
I’m all for usmanov, he’s been saying all the right things this summer,
he’s worth about 12 billion and wants to plough some of that into arsenal which is fine by me.

rico
rico
14 years ago

I’ve stolen a laptop 😉

Countme in for the Big Russian too, he has to be better than SS…..

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

Boo!! rico, people go to prison for much less. 😀

What does it have to take for Stan to invest in quality signings? Relegation? 😉

As for AA, he knows what magic he’s capable of, we know what magic he’s capable of… Now to the matter of showing it. COme on AA, step up!

rico
rico
14 years ago

Boo to you agag, that’s where i got it from 😉

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

Is that a new shopping mall, “Prison”? 😀 How are you? Can’t wait for Saturday.

rico
rico
14 years ago

Fed up with my laptop but otherwise good thanks agag, how’s you?

Aren’t we playing Sunday? 😉

rico
rico
14 years ago

Guess i need to update the sidebar, but i can’t get behind the scenes on this laptop – ko is 1.30 on sunday agag

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
14 years ago

I’m okay. Busy-ish. 😉 I was relying on that sidebar, you know. 😀

rico
rico
14 years ago

I take full responsibility agag 😉

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

fairweather supporters eh, every club has them !

rico
rico
14 years ago

Micko, you lost me there?

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Take no notice rico, just pulling your leg re kick off times.

rico
rico
14 years ago

I did wonder if that’s what it was 😉

A least they are on TV this weekend, better make sure they win too….

Time to turn our season around

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

I’ll be at the game sunday, I think depending on which end of the ground you enter you will or you won’t even know there’s a protest going on.
I would be amazed if someone managed to smuggle a banner into the stadium.
Would like to see rvp and park up front, really go at them.

rico
rico
14 years ago

I think the stewards will expect it Micko, they’ll have their jobs cut out – i read that the protest plans were put on hold though… I hope it doesn’t go into the ground, our lot need all the support they can get…

rico
rico
14 years ago

got to pop off again, back shortly

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Afternoon Gooners
Afternoon Rico. Good post, suprised that it hasn’t sparked more comment..!
I’m not we’ll ever again see the Arshavin we saw in those few months following his signing and 4 goals at Anfield.
I wonder if he really has the self-motivation needed to propel him to those earlier efforts.
I suspect he’s just taking it easy and pocketing his cool £90k. He seems to put more effort into his dopey tweets or whatever he does on his time off.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

As for Ursmanov, i’d rather have an owner who turns up to games rather than some silent cowboy who thinks its bright to say bugger all while the shit hits the fan…

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

http://www.arsenal.com/home

Words from the Great Leader…. 😉

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Can’t say i can remember Rico…

Was Bobby Pires a ball-winner?
But he didn’t disappear like our meerkat.

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Kev, that’s cleared that one up then, just remind me, who did he say was playing right back.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

George Male.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Rico, i will understand how & why Wenger allowed Edu, Gilberto and especially Bobby Pires to walk away.
And then give two years to that pile of shit Silvestre and latterly Squillaci….

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

never understand…..

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

So, when are you leaving, to fly over Mick?

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Saturday, thats why I was giving rico a little dig in the ribs earlier, back tuesday, you feeling confident ?

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Emerald Isles for the last few years, its only an hour in the air, works really well for me, only do about 10-15 games a season now.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Yes Mick, i’m fairly confident.
Especially as Wenger will have a lot of his injured players back.
Sunderland are in a worst state than us, so we should be looking for a good win.

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
14 years ago

So, who is our right back for next match? Jenkinson? Kos? Djourou ?

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

Rico, we all do our bit for the cause.
ESP is the real deal, i’m a plastic.
Kev, we dropped a few points playing them last season so we’re due a good win, would be great to see TV5 back in the fray.

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

JM, your guess is as good as mine, santos has also been mentioned.
I like jenks but i think wenger will go for more experience on sunday, his time will come.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

JM, it’s gotta be Jenkinson for me.

Mick, Verm back would give Wenger the option of Koscielny at right-back vs Marseilles.

EastSidePaul
EastSidePaul
14 years ago

Good evening everyone!

I for one welcome our new Uzbek overlord! And may his reign of terror be long lasting!

I really hope the 35th richest man on the planet gets onto the board, and drags a certain Mr. Dein with him!
Are these protests at Wenger still going ahead? Completely directed at the wrong entity.

Micko
Micko
14 years ago

I can see that kev, and TV5 coming back in would be a massive boost to the defence, wouldn’t it be great to have a mean back four once again, I don’t think that’s too much to ask for.
Catch you tomorrow.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

See ya Mick.

Hello Paul.

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Yeah, a mean defence, now that would be novel, i’d kinda forgotten what one of those was like….

Paul, i think the anti-Wenger demo is on hold.
Maybe the organisers have had a moment of reflection?
Or maybe the fact that they’d be in the minority has taken the shine off of their ‘event’..?

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Here’s one for RizLee… 😉

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIM03siHuaM

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Evening Rico. How’s your Mum’s Broadband?

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Hey, that’s great.
Now you can put your feet up… 🙂

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Have a look at the transfer fees:

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/arsenal-fc/transfers/verein_11.html

Wonder if the fees for our loanees are what AFC get for a seasons loan?

allezkev
allezkev
14 years ago

Good night Rico. see ya in awhile…..

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
14 years ago

Sunday, normally is not a very wellcome day for Arsenal

alan b'stard M P
alan b'stard M P
14 years ago

why do I get the horrible feeling Usmanov is dud?