Sunderland – a very undeserved point….

The undeserved point!  I’m talking about Arsenal, not Sunderland.

It’s been a long time since I’ve seen such a one-sided game and we were on the receiving end! We were the ones making the dodgy tackles, not Sunderland. Thankfully they weren’t nasty tackles but stupid ones nevertheless!

The early stages of this game saw a couple of half chances for both sides. Arshavin with what looked like an easy chance for him, blasted his shot high and up the other end Henderson also blasted high his volley.

Then a moment of madness, possibly never to be seen again in football, but sure to be seen on a A Question of Sport as what happened next? Anton Ferdinand seemed to be in very little trouble but after hanging on to the ball a split second to long, his clearance hit Cesc Fabregas and rebounded towards the Sunderland goal, it looped up and over Simon Mignolet in the Sunderland goal. 1-0.

The downside to the goal, Cesc Fabregas pulled a hamstring and later had to be replaced by Tomas Rosicky.

We were then under the cosh big time but the defence held strong and Sunderland were helping us with some wayward finishing!

By then, Arsenal were defending for their lives.

Koscielny stood out at the back, winning most of the headers coming his way and clearing the ball with calmness! Steed Malbranque, Nedum Onuoha and Cristian Riveros all squandered chances for Sunderland!

It remained 1-0 going into the break, how, I don’t know!

Within minutes of the restart, Arshavin, who I thought was dreadful yesterday should have made it 2-0 but from five yards out he spooned his chance over the bar!! He had another chance soon after, this he sliced wide from twelve yards. Arshavin should have been replaced, we needed a second goal and with Carlos Vela on the bench and in form, the switch should have been made.

Then the moment you could see coming for ages came. Song was not having one of his better days. His tackling had been clumsy for most of the game. Already in the ref’s book, he received his second yellow card. The resulting red card meant his game was over. His second was very very harsh, however he should have had his second yellow a few moments before, so he got what he deserved in my opinion.

Sunderland sensed this was their chance and Darren Bent should have made the scores level. But for dreadful finishing, he would have.  Arsenal settled, Denilson had come on in place of Arshavin and we pressed forward in search of a second goal. Nasri sent a free kick over the bar, but then with little over fifteen minutes left, the same player was bought down in the penalty area.

This was our chance to finish the game off and take all three points home. Wrong, Rosicky blasted his penalty over.

Manuel Almunia then denied Gyan his chance with a good save.

Then with 94 minutes on the clock, having played the four extra minutes Sunderland were allowed to break forward. Shocking defensive play by Koscienly, Squiliaci and Clichy allowed Darren Bent in to equalise with almost the last kick of the game.

After week of listening to Arsene Wenger go on about fair treatment, I am disgusted to see our own boss push the 4th official after the game!! I hope he gets the deserved red card for that offence and I mean that!! I’ve said it before, he is a bad loser and the only people he should be venting his frustration at is his own players, not a 4th official who has little bearing on the game!

Yesterday we were out played for most of the game, we missed our chances, which were few and far between. But for a ‘fluke’ goal Sunderland would have repeated the result from last season and that performance by us yesterday hurts but credit where it’s due, a lot of that was down to Sunderland.

Throughout the game, either our defence, Almunia or bad finishing by the Sunderland forwards saved our day.

Yes, Tomas Rosicky should have converted the stone wall penalty but maybe that was the way it was meant to be….

We can all moan about the extra 15 seconds played at the end but any team, especially Arsenal should know by now that you concentrate until the end and our defence didn’t. We got punished! In any case, we had our chances too but we fluffed our lines!

Yesterday we got a point, we are the ones who should feel the happier, not Sunderland! It reminded me so much of the 2005 FA Cup Final, except that day we robbed them on penalties…..

This time though, we missed our penalty chance to win the game!

Oh well, roll on Tuesday…..

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JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

morning rico..

it appears bruce won the battle of the mind games..wenger sent the boys there to get stuck in and instead of sunderland doing the same they played..

they caught us out and we didnt turn up

Doublegooner
Doublegooner
15 years ago

Yesterday demonstrated just how much we needed that DCM,

Song was awful but he had no help. Wenger whould have sacrifced either bringing on Rocisicky or dradding the lazy russian far earlier.

I’ve never waverred from the opinion this squad will win nothing with this mix of players.

Doublegooner
Doublegooner
15 years ago

Corection: dragging the lazy Russian off far earlier.

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Rico I think the defence was superb and honestly this Arsenal side is matured I know we will bounce back

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Morning JJ

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

dont dont blame song really..

he was putting himself about and it was working..but u can only collect 2 yellows and he could have had 4 or 5

alot of them where silly tackles..its frusrating but if the midfield gets bullied we complain we lack heart

we cant have it both ways..song was our fletcher yesterday..

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Double gooner too harsh mate we will win we were unlucky even though we went a man down come on mate lets get behind the team please

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

why was song awful??

the rest of the team gave him no help…wave of wave of sunderland attack was coming and song put himself about..

if he wouldnt have made those tackles we’d have been moaning he s lazy and we need a new DM

perspective please

rosicky should have put that pen away… we didnt drop 2 points because of song..

Bala
Bala
15 years ago

Morning Rico,I think we all should take it cool bcause I m sure I sunderland scored on the 75th min with us a men down,we all would have taken it.But of course we should have scored the pen and won the match but we cant criticise our team for showing the determination for 94 min(The goal was scored at 94.15 I think)

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Anybody could have missed the penalty but Nasir should have been the one to take it

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Bala totally agree Koz was a beast and Al was bossing up we need RVP and Theo back for the cutting edge at the front

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

4 main reasons why we drew

1..rosicky..never taken a pen for arsenal and hasnt scored for 20 years in an arsenal shirt yet he takes the pen?????????

2..play to the whistle

3..clichy flaps everytime when the ball is at his feet in the box…everytime..how many more games does it take before he gets dropped because his form has been dodgy for 2 years

4..almunia should have come for that ball..the ball was aloowed to bounce into the box..clichy hoofed it into kos practically in the 6 yard box..

manny should have come and claimed and never allowed clichy near it..

Bala
Bala
15 years ago

Also think of the many positives from the game.Kosh and Squilli were outstanding,Chamakh and Nasri were really good although i would like to see chamakh score a goal away from home.The good news for us is we can bounce back with a easy match(On paper) against WBA at emirates next week.Lets also hope Liverpool can atleast get a draw against Manu although its very unlikely

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

and we can call AA lazy all we want but thats how he plays and hes the clubs second top scorer this season

if he would have still been on that pitch when we had the pen we’d have been talking about a totally different scoreline

teams always look tired after a CL game..especially away from home

a points not a bad thing in these circumstances but we had that game won and a couple of stupid moments cost the points

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Clichy didn’t have a great game JJ but are sure Gibbs could have made an impact

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Hola. Frustrating results, to be sure. But I don’t think we were outplayed for most of the game, rico. Certainly, in the first half; but we were the better team in the second half. Bent was a headless chicken until his goal. 🙂

Arshavin was all lazybones. Song wasn’t getting any help. Our Russian should have been taken off much earlier. TR7 missed his pen, yes and that it lamentable, but he or Chamakaka would’ve been my MoTm if we had won. Clichy’s goal-line clearance would have been his saving grace but that last rubbish clearance was his undoing– yet again. 😥 Koz and Squilli were great. Koz will only get better.

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

erick

gibbs is better than clcihy..he was better last season too..

defensively there is no splitting them..gibbs still has alot to learn but hes young even to learn quickly..

clichys 25 he should have learned his defensive game by now..

going forward gibbs is the man..clichys beginning to look like eboue when he sets off on those runs and has no final ball..

gibbs does..gibbs will take clichys place this season..

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

JJ, he may be the club’s second top scorer, but when you view that against the number of chances he’s spurned… it’s hardly impressive. If it were Nik playing that way; people would be crying for his head.

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Chamaka Bala I will reserve my comment he holds up play well great with headers but zero directness and poor finisher but works so hard am confused

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

rosicky was poor

nasri took the cesc role and kos was our man of the match..

Nothing got passed him..it wasnt almunia that they couldnt beat is was kos…

17 shots only 2 on target now thats defending at its best..

but clichy had his customery clanger and it ruined the good work

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

in didnt see him get too many chances yesterday..

i didnt see us have many chances at all yesterday

i dont see where he spurned any chances

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Morning all.Aw made a tactical error.bar rosicky that team was the same with all of them playing their 3rd game in a week and you could see how fatigued they were.the back five bar clichy were solid and don’t blame song since he did what viera used to.even the invincibles conceded in the last minutes so its about how well we respond.

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Jj We need experience in this kind of games but have to agree with you Gibbs gives a great cross and look more relaxed in the box Hiiya Agag

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

rico, lol. Now I think I know how you feel when you have to defend Theo. 🙂 I love Clichy, but oh my. His tackling last night was appalling. To think, I skipped drinks to rush home for that performance. 😉 Ugh.

Bala
Bala
15 years ago

Erick-Chamakh was very good with his play but as I said I would like him to score goals away from home which RVP does easily.I thnik this could be the season Gibbs taking over from Clichy bcause although he is very determined,he still is error prone and after having sorted out our CB and RB Arsene now has to sort out the LB berth.

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

im struggling to see how TV can get back into the defence

i dont wanna see kos and squidgy broke up..

unless TV comes in at LB

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

About Arshavin, JJ, not yesterday. I agree we didn’t make too many. But you cited his goal stats, and I’m sure he missed much more than he made in the games he’s played in.

Bala
Bala
15 years ago

Also we were missing Cesc who could easily open up defences like this with is astonishing passing but at the same time we should have adequate replacement for cesc.Jack is there but he is not cesc(Not yet)

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

K-T Howdy Msee wangu Nasir and Rosicky were influential going forward and apart from his failed tricks Jack got stuck in

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Hi, Erick. Howdy? You are very hard on Chamakh. 🙂

Bala
Bala
15 years ago

Jon JOn-TV will surely get back into the defence and we are going to have a great partnership with Verm and Kosh.Happy days are not far mates.Cheers

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Sorry in my comment i didn’t include sagna and clichy with tomas .

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Good morning, KT. 🙂

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Jj at stamford bridge I would like to see TV on the left

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

bala Tv is needed in the defence but how do you split up a CB pairing that has looked strong..

unless u make TV part of it..

AGAG its not about chances missed…chances missed means nothing if the team still gets the points and hes still 2nd top scorer in the squad

we cant judge a player on chances missed when we are second in the table scored 2nd most goals and hes our second top scorer

its looking for a problem that isnt there..

we have much bigger problems than AA

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

sag kos squidge TV would look a solid defence..

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Agag I know he works so hard for the team but I like him and always support him

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

I agree missed chances is not a problem if we win, JJ; but we only managed a draw. Arshavin should have put at least one past Mignolet; and Rosicky, too.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

If denilson played like jack did he’d get slaughtered.if song hadn’t done that we’d have lost in the first half.denilson had a very good game apart from when he took a shot in a 3 vs 1 sitiuation instead of running it to the corner.if he’d have scored we wouldve praised him but thats how fine the line between success and failure is…

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Theo and Rvp would realy take us up to the Sky 🙂

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

they were all struggling rico..

anyway we didnt lose..thats the important thing..

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Erick, now I remember, you’re only hard on Higuain. 😉 🙂 Haha. I think Chamakh is great for us. 🙂

Tony de Wonderful
Tony de Wonderful
15 years ago

Good to read balanced and honest assessments of the game.If Wenger could adopt the same mindset instead of his irrational bloody mindedness (defending the indefensible) then he could learn something from the game and take that next step upwards.

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

K-T spot on probably we expect much from certain player and wait for other to wrong so we can slate them

Tony de Wonderful
Tony de Wonderful
15 years ago

SAFC

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

JJ its good to see you’ve warmed up to kozzer.he seems like an Italian defender with a very clean game.AA though needs to work on his finishing.its infuriating to see him miss very easy chances.

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Agag he scored twice in the CL and I still don’t rate him 🙂 🙂 🙂

james
james
15 years ago

clichy was a disaster he was the one to blame for bent’s goal he panicked through out the match losing the ball in dangerous areas as far as am consigned he is the flop of the match squillaci & korc were magnificent i will want verma to take over clichy’s position while squillachi and korc remains as CB wht a fcuk!!!!! is wrong with arshavin

mikeB
mikeB
15 years ago

Hi Rico,

re TdW… Some might say the same about you this morning. 😆

It wasn’yt the best performance, but a tough away game after a mid-week CL game…? it wasn’t a disaster either.

I know who was the most relieved manager when Down finally blew… and it wasn’t Wenger.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

How rude of me.morning to agag and erick…rosicky didn’t look confident at all when he stepped up to take the peno.he really needs a goal.from what i’ve seen he needs to learn how to place the ball instead of blasting it the whole time.

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

K-T I told you AA I won’t talk about because he is a gooner and I won’t slate any gooners

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Erick, even when Higuain scored a hat-trick at the WC, you still thought he was poor. 🙂 🙂 Haha. That made me laugh.

Bill Cowie
Bill Cowie
15 years ago

Allo Sunderland Supporter here…just a quick line to say enjoyed the blog and felt that your observations were fair valid,constructive and spot on.Its nice to read fair balanced journalism for a change.Thanks again

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

dont worry about AA’s finishing..the way hes going he’ll get 15 this season and if they all get 15 i’ll be happy

kossers defending is impressive..he heads better than TV and he reads the pass and gets the ball before the striker..hes very good..

hes like what adams used to be like and squidgy reminds me of keown the way he goes for everything..

but theres no point in strengthening the defence if weve still got the same dodgy LB and GK

the goal was their fault..between the pair of them they fucked up

yes the ball should have never been allowed to bounce but almunia should have come for it..

as for clichy, that ball needed to go over the stands not back into the crowded box..

clichy can be a donut sometimes

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Rico madrid played like us last night but the difference is that they hang on to win 2-1 which was as poor as Madrid has played this season.Milan drew 1-1.

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

up in the air..out of the stadium..

its the last kick of the game so kick it into the stands.. dont kick it into an area where theres 100 players waiting for it

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

agree ktr

rosicky still looks composed on the ball plenty of neat touches but he puts his foot through it and blasts everything and if anyone needs to work on his finishing its him..

sometimes a neat placement is better than a clout

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

TDW credit to Safc.we had 35% possession in the first half.the last time i saw that was vs barca

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Howdy Mike how is work Mate 🙂

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

id play gibbs or TV at left back..

we dont need any players in midfeild or attack by the looks of things we are strong enough even with injuries

ive just seen the goal again..fuck me..it looks worse everytime

why didnt manny come???

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Good thing, I like dramas and sweets as Clichy is now a “disaster” (@10:00) and a “donut” (@10:05). 😥

TDW, I think, barring injury, we’ll do better on the reverse fixture though.

Boo, mikeB.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Rico to be fair thats as solid a defense we have had in years.Its going to be very harsh to kos/squilli to get dropped when Tv returns despite them looking so good together especially kozzer who is very good both in the air and on the ground.

Tony de Wonderful
Tony de Wonderful
15 years ago

Hi Gooners,

Yeah really pleased that Bruce has assembled a team capable of taking on the Big Boys football-wise rather than purely setting up stall to combat their their attributes (it’s not really a good long term strategy!)
I know Arsenal were missing several key players as were we (Turner and Mensah first choice defenders) but we seemed to cope peretty well.
Very disappointed with Song who I was looking forward to seeing.
Overall,good game to watch, Titus could prove to be PL bargain of the decade.

mikeB
mikeB
15 years ago

Morning Folks,
too much negativity on here this morning…

Yeah we dropped two points st one of the toughest venues we play, but…

We have now solved the cb problem and seem to almost have an embarrassment of riches with TV to come back.

We lost our talisman and captain early on and still made most of the significant chances.

We went down to ten men and still came away with a point that could be so easily have been three.

We missed a penalty, and still looked like taking all three points.

We just played a mid-week CL game and then travelled to a seriously tough away game and came away with a point.

Ask yourselves honestly if you wouldn’t have taken a point before the game… I know I would

Last of all…… Be Happy 😆

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

I remember clichy giving away the penalty in cl semis vs villareal but we were fortunate lehmann was equal to it.when cole left i feared what would happen but clichy was so good he was in the PL team of the year but since that B’ham game he has lost it.he like kolo panics in high pressure sitiuations unlike gibbs who is always very calm.if gibbs has a blinder vs Tiny totts he should get his chance.i love clichy since he gives 110% but he is quickly becoming the lb version of glen johnson except being even poorer in attack.sort him out Aw or give gibbs his chance.

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

sunderland played better and deserved something from the game..

the only people we have to blame is ourselves..

we went to battle but sunderland came to play and we got caught with our pants down..

the CB’s were immence and although we should have had the three points we didnt deserve to..

we can blame the ref all we want but we didnt kill them off when we had chance and and individual defensive laspe (again) gifted them a goal after 159 minutes of pure defensive brilliance..

such a shame..

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

ktr

clichy has become the left footed eboue..

cant defend..never has been able to but now his attacking play has gone to pot too..sets off on runs and doesnt know what do do then stops and comes back on himself

rico TV played LB at ajax. id rahter someone who can tackle at LB than someone who just attacks all the time..

like sagna on the right..shit going forward but the best defensive RB in the league and we are solid on that side..

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

TDW song did what pundits say we don’t do-playing dirty.our midfield was non-existent which meant song had alot to do.its also worthy to note how much we miss walcott.his pace on the counter prevents teams from coming onto us the way sunderland did.Chamakh may be playing well but rvp is still superior and i wouldn’t have been surprised if he had played to see him score a goal out of nowhere.remember mancity away last season?fulham away?everton and stamford bridge in 08-09?he is the ‘messi’ of our attack and i for one want him back ASAP.

mikeB
mikeB
15 years ago

I think we all agree that Sunderland deserved their point, but if you make that case for them you, ipso facto, make the same case for us. 😆

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

we need balance

no point having a solid defnce if the LB cant defend is it..

play gibbs or play tv..

clichys game has gone and i think ktr said hes starting to look kolo-ish in the way he flaps all the time

composure is needed..

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

song played well..

no probs with the red card he deserved it but i dont have a prob with him getting one either

its nice to see our players putting themself about..

mikeB
mikeB
15 years ago

Rico,
not according to your headline 😆

Tony de Wonderful
Tony de Wonderful
15 years ago

Song is well capable of breaking things up without adopting cynical means.The pundits will always invent a negative about teams like Arsenal otherwise they would have fuck all to talk about,they were saying they didn’t like the way Barca played football on Talk Radio ferchrissakes!

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

they are all defnding wenger..

not sell rico

drop

why let a player keep making the same mistakes when we have two other players in the squad who have shown they are better??

we have a massive squad for a reason..so use it

mikeB
mikeB
15 years ago

Rico,
I prefer: if wishes were horses, beggars would ride, but if we had our shooting boots on, they would have lost… works both ways 😆

Anyway I seem to be in a minority here this morning and so I’ll go and dig the garden 😆

Have a good one everybody; catch you next week.

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

All players have bad games. Clichy had a torrid one yesterday. Hardly a reason to get rid of him. Gibbsy is ready to deputize at LB, but not to take over said position completely. 🙂 I am biased, I freely admit it.

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

clichy has not had a good game in 2 years

he was rubbish all last year

it was easier to count the good games than it was to keep track of the bad..

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

the team will totally change for the NLD

wenger thought he could get away with two games on the trot and to be honest so did i

cant accept that players will be tired in september..

we just went with the wrong gameplan..we went for a battle..they switched the script and caught us out

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

he had a couple of decent games rico but for the majority of the season he would have been dropped if gibbs was fit

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

most of our goals last year came from clichys side..

wingers beat him..get there crosses in..hes always out of position and if he touches the ball in his own box it normally results in a goal..

that winger yest was unheard of..they bought him from egypt..and clichy got skinned..he must have let about 15 crosses in..

it was the same last season

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

JJ, haha. Easy, now. You’ll give Clichy a complex.

Gibbs is great, but he is not yet ready to be first choice LB. I guarantee you, if Gibbs has a bad game, people would be screaming “experience” and wanting Clichy back. Ah, but such is a fan’s variability. 🙂

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Also, Arshavin’s side, JJ. Don’t forget. 🙂 🙂

Mackem
Mackem
15 years ago

Hi Rico, thanks for the nice review. It seems the Beeb and all the other rags were watching a different game.

Well done to the 3000 Gunners that travelled up (even if you only have 1 song ;] ), it must of been a long journey home. Good luck for the rest of the season.

Bala
Bala
15 years ago
Oliver
Oliver
15 years ago

Just how many chances did Sunderland have yesterday? 1? 2? 3? We had 4 clear chances and didn’t score. We defended brilliantly and were hardly threatened all game

Bala
Bala
15 years ago

Hope this fat guy just shuts his fcuking mouth

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

I seem to be flying the Clichy kite solo. 🙂 But luv is such…

rico, after this morning, I promise to be kinder to Theo. 😀 I am not his biggest fan but I do have the highest hopes for him. (See, I’m off to a good start…) Apart from eggs, he can beat defenders and keepers. 🙂 🙂

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Bala, I just read that too. 😯

Eeeek.

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

lol arshavins not a left back

its clichys job top stop the wingers not AAs

gibbs will take clichys place this year you watch

gibbs is already 2nd choice to cole in the english squad

clichy isnt even 3rd choice in france

evra and abidal are both above him….clichys loved but hes a passenger..no room for sentiment in football..

like kolo

gibbs is ready..he cant be no worse..

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Aw is back.i love it when he gets on managers’ minds.Allardyce is a deluded man…

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

theres only one winger… why does AA have to stop him..its AA’s job to keep their fb busy not worry about what their winger is doing

hes scored 3 goals so far so hes doing more than his bit

i never used to see bergkamp or merse or overmars or pires come running back marking wingers

thats why we have defenders

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Au nom de Gael Clichy, “cutie”, je voudrais vous remercier pour votre support, Mlle. rico. 🙂 🙂

(I can do press work for Clichy. 🙂 )

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Bala ha ha ha day dreaming 🙂 🙂

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

we are a team..

attackers attack and defenders defend.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Its such a shame that when things are looking up a weak link appears.clichy has been poor and he is no longer a youngster.i have always defended him but he seems to never learn.did you see squilli’s face after we conceded?the back 5 bar clichy deserved a clean sheet.we also missed diaby last night.his axis with song is pivotal especially in away games.

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

On behalf of Gael Clichy, “cutie”, I thank you for your Support Ms. rico.

“Cutie” was a perfectly gratuitous insertion. Haha. But the sentiment holds.

Lockey
Lockey
15 years ago

A pretty fair assessment of the game. I’m a sunderland fan and thought you got most things spot on. A draw was probably a fair result as both teams had similar half chances, though the penalty was your chance to kill the game it maybe equalled out the good fortune of Ferdy’s crazy moment. Was very impressed with your 2 centre backs and thought Chamahk looked like the ‘strong’ forward you’ve lacked for a while. I fancy you to get 2nd place this year behind Chelski.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

JJ has a point rico.AA has 3 goals and 5 assists in 6 games.he may be lazy but he’s dynamite in the opposition 18 yard box.he has done his job well so far but clichy panics alot.gibbs may have poor positional discipline but he seems unfazed by the occasion.

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

in 59 games for arsenal AA has scored 21 goals with 22 assists..

thats impressive so i dont know where all this lazyness comes from..

ppl just dont like his style and hold it against him but he does his job and he does it well..

it took pires 96 games to reach the same goal tally

just something to think about

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Aw is a genius Koz and Squillaci are great

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

We have put ourselves in a very interesting position.if the chavs win their next two games and we beat w.brom we’ll be 4 points adrift.if we lose at the Bridge we’ll be 7 adrift which means that a win might be necessary or the chavs will be out of sight.

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

We are yet to see what Djourou can do may be in the CC

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

AA is labelled lazy cos he dont defend but thats why clichy is a LB..thats his job

cant blame AA for clichy not being able to hold his own..not when AA has contributed to 8 goals already this season..

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Cesc might miss the Chavs game anybody seen that?

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Omelette au Gruyère/aux fines herbes, rico. Yum.

JJ, for our most expensive signing, that is an expectation. 🙂

Erick, I really like the look of Koz. He will only get better… And the fact that Squilli is hardly mentioned as commentators drone on shows he has been doing his bit properly.

Bala
Bala
15 years ago

@Erick-I have noticed it and I m really worried but hoping to get some good news from Arsenal

clapham mackam
clapham mackam
15 years ago

Dodgy tackles, rough stuff, sendings off and a manager abusing the fourth official……typical of teams that are frightened of Arsenal and try to kick them off the pitch. Only that on this occasion all those items apply to the Arse and not the opposition. What is that I can hear – a loud apology for the article of the other day…… I thought not. Time for Mike to get real I think.

sam
sam
15 years ago

hello gooners, sunderland fan here, was at the match yesterday and what a game it was. just wanted to comment to tell you how refreshing it is to see a big four club giving sunderland some credit for a good performance against them! last season we beat you at home liverpool at home and drew at old trafford and all fan sites focused on how bad there own teams were and not give sunderland any credit for battling to a draw. also was it clichy playing yesterday???????? i was under the impression it was gibbs until i read this article, one last thing, il never see i luckier goal than fabregas’s, ever!!!

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

JJ if AA was on the pitch during the penalty he would’ve scored most probably.its all down to a certain mentality in the country.when rooney loses the ball he will chase it back to concede a throw.you’ll hear the fans chant ‘rooney! rooney!’ but in reality he has taken his team from an attacking position to a defensive position.SKY then come in and say he’s better than messi because he does that masking all his other flaws but you have to ask,isn’t he a world class attacker?berbatov will rarely lose the ball and will stick to his job but will get slaughtered for not running like a headless chicken.thats why flamini was loved but in reality he cost us quite a few times by being caught out of position.AA is decisive at what he does,Aw says he plays for 20 minutes a game and he is always grateful he signed him.he like theo are unlike Arsenal players and i’m glad thats the case.call him selfish all you want but he is decisive at what he does.he was poor last night,his finishing needs to improve but he is dynamite on form and almost unplayable on occasions.

clapham mackam
clapham mackam
15 years ago

Rico – I didn’t say we were… both teams were committed and both teams made the odd dodgy tackle…. and that’s the point… both teams …..both teams.

Anyway – I do hope you guys have a good season – I like Arsenal…. but don’t tar everyone with the same brush..a lot of teams, Sunderland included, try to play football as it should be. We are not as good as you, but we play the game properly…..lets see that reflected in a balanced way in your posts and in your managers comments. That way you win friends. At the moment your manager is in danger of losing them. That would be a shame.

mal
mal
15 years ago

The sooner Wenger stops your players falling down polaxed after a normal challenge, (regular diving in the case of Chamak) the more respect you’ll get from other supporters instead of him whinging…The sending off of Song was warrented , three previous heavy challenges for his first booking and then the challenge before he was sent off.

You would’nt have scored all day if it had not been for the fluke and i just loved those long passes from Almunia and your defenders to the forwards . Did i say long passes, shucks I meant those long ball tactics that Arsenal dont play..
Always followed the Arsenal for good football and a pleasure to watch but your losing respect my southern friends if you continue being hard done by…

sam
sam
15 years ago

cheers rico, you might hear this alot but arsenal are my second team and lets hope they end that 5 year drought this season! think one of the domestic cup competitions would be your best chance, chelsea look very strong, but would love to see you get ahead of man united, hate them.

sam
sam
15 years ago

mal, i noticed that, arsenal seemed to be playing it more in the air than what im used to watching

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Sunderland has become a bogey ground to us.credit to them and i hope they do well against our rivals too.

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

interesting healthy debate today rico and AGAG re AA and clichy

i think me and ktr agree so thats 2 each and we’ll call it a draw 😉 xx

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

we were playing it in the air because sunderland didnt water the pitch..it was dry so we couldnt slick it around as we normally do..

the weaker teams use everything to their advantage..even their pitch..

we had to adapt our game and we got a point.. we might have lost that game last season..

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Rico am usually abit pessimistic but we can only hope mancity do us a favour next week.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

We haven’t kept an away clean sheet since the nil nil draw at villa park in january…that needs to change.

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

sorry rico i havent had a look i totally forgot.. 🙁

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

like i said before weve got 3 players all capable of playing LB if ones showing dodgy form one of the others have to play instead..

with kos and squidgy being rocks yesterday my vote goes to TV especially for the away games..

gibbs for the emirates and tv away with squidge in the middle..

JonJon
JonJon
15 years ago

never will be rico

too many dickheads 😉

it will be interesting to see who wenger picks for the nld

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

It won’t be worth blogging if we all agreed. Might as well set up a knitting circle and take turns serving finger sandwiches and pouring fancy tea. 🙂

Don’t forget about avashnee, JJ. 🙂 It would be nice to hear from her again.

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

rico, Salut Sunderland has kind words for you. 🙂 🙂 Go check.

silent stan
silent stan
15 years ago

you ruin a decent article with some mind boggling stupid comments.
wtf do you mean shocking defensive play and not concentrating for the whole game.!! but for clichy clearance brushing chamacks clf it would have sailed out of the danger zone. that was bad luck. BTW it is the defenses and almunias job “to save the day” not bemoan the fact they did. we were away, to sunderland, they are not some second raters, they are a hard to beat, well organised side. but for another woeful day by arshavin and a stupid pen miss we would have walked it despite some players having off days, notably song,, We dominated the 2nd half.

Fulwell
Fulwell
15 years ago

Sunderland fan here, and I have not posted on another teams forum before but felt the need today. I have read this thread (and others on Arsenal forums) and the way you aer honest and magnanimous in what is a dissapointing draw (given the last minute element) is a credit to you all. The other big clubs (or many others) would not have the dignity to do this. I liked Arsenal a bit before (more so than any other big club) but your attitude is honest and brilliant tbh. Others just expect to beat the minions Sunderland but you have given us some respect and for that I thank you and wish you all the best for the season. I genuinely hope that you win the title now with your excellent attitude and support whereas before I wasnt bothered.

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

rico, correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m sure RA had a few choice words for silent stan on AR, before? The gist being that SS should take his nom de plume seriously. Haha.

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Mancs up Dippers just not the same team

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Weeds, Torres is struggling forward, and he could have prevented that goal from coming in if he’d used his head (literally). 🙁

The Scousers are looking toothless. I normally wouldn’t care but I don’t want the Mancs to gain ground on us. 🙂

RedandDread
RedandDread
15 years ago

What a load of tosh! Wonder what you guys really expect form this team? They played a hard game yesterday, backs gainst the wall and did enough to win! That they didn’t was down more to Sunderland’s persistennce and a some bad luck.

Of course Wenger is a bad loser-most winners are. It’s becasue he is passionate about the job he does and he cares. I am not here to defend him but it sickens me how quick so many Gooners (?) who write on these blogs are to salg off our team, our players and our manager when things don’t go according to their “higher’ plan!

All games are tough in the EPL, Sunderland played well and believe it or not so did we!

McMackem
McMackem
15 years ago

Fair assessment. Didn’t care for the article a few days ago which painted Sunderland in a less than flattering light but as Saturday shows we do try to play football even if not to Arsenal’s outstanding standards.

Good luck for the rest of the season.

Fulwell
Fulwell
15 years ago

wait till you see us away from home…..woeful!!
Liverpool scored 🙂
Seen a few post on here slagging Arshavin…. we would give anything to have a player like that

Fulwell
Fulwell
15 years ago

2 -2 mint

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Great stuff at OT. But I’m glad we didn’t sign Joe Cole.

We weren’t slagging of AA, Fulwell. But we do watch him week in week out; and are as aware of his brilliance as his attitude, work rate, and defensive nous. 🙂

Fulwell
Fulwell
15 years ago

just loathe their arrogance. The only person in their set up with any dignity or credit is Giggs imo. Hate them second only to the dirty black and white scum up the road 😉

Fulwell
Fulwell
15 years ago

Fair cop re AA. We often had a go at Kenwyne Jones for his attitude and he was one of the best players we had, and he could not polish the boots of AA.

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Crap…

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Reina could’ve done better… rico, I’m glad he’s not our keeper.

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Nani could very well win an Olympic gold in diving, imho.

realsocialdad
realsocialdad
15 years ago

nice post rico my thought exactly

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

In response to Nani, I think Stevie me me me should dive just about now… Might earn his team a pen.

Shame about Jones in Stoke. Now those are thugs. For sure.

Fulwell
Fulwell
15 years ago

Yeah Rico, at Stoke and doing well. we liked him too, but could go for games on end not being arsed and not doing much. Very frustrating at times. I reckon he would be better than Bentner, but hoping this Gyan bloke will be better and more committed.

Fulwell
Fulwell
15 years ago

I would say that Bendtner is the only player in your squad I would not really want. In a team like ours your dont get many chances up front as our midfield does creat enough, and he would be too profigate.
Now haway Blackpool!!

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

New avatar, rsd!

Nik saved our Arses a few times last season, rico. I like him. If his self-belief matched his end product, we’d win all there is to be won. 🙂

I dislike the Mancs more than the Dippers. The Pensioners and the Spuddies, I absolutely loathe. 🙂

Fulwell
Fulwell
15 years ago

I dont really know why if I am honest, but Sunderland fans hate The Spuds and saggy face too.

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

In the match v. Burnley, Fulwell, Nik displayed his profound understanding of the How To Not Score Manual.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Rico what rooney was doing in the end was what denilson ought to have done instead of shooting.i have praised berba today then he goes on and bags a hatrick…good for him.

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Haha about Nik. Not at all, rico. 🙂

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Sweet, rico. 🙂 🙂 I hope there weren’t too many whose comments were binned. Some can get pretty abusive…

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Fulwell i love AA because he is magic.if i were to hear that an arsenal player bagged a hatrick in a game i missed,AA would be my first pick.he has turned it on at old trafford and Anfield.now its time he did the same at stamford B.id also love your opinion on clichy and diaby if you’re still around.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Rico i want us to beat tiny totts in the CC.there are rumours szeczeny will start which i hope are true.

Fulwell
Fulwell
15 years ago

K-TR7 – AA has been awesome in every game I have seen (most on the telly obviously) just an off day yesterday as you have said. Clichy has been great on the occassions I have seen him, but recently dont think he has the class to be in your team. I feel you should have better than that. Diaby I am unsure about – dont know enough to make a reasonable assessment.
I do however think you should get a new keeper – if you could get him Given would be an excellent addition – how he is second choice anywhere is beyond me.
Cricket score for Chelsea??

Fulwell
Fulwell
15 years ago

just thought – maybe the fact I dont have an opinion on Diaby may indicate him as a player. Nothing special but nothing terrible – solid performer?? or am I wrong?

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Fulwell what about denilson?he also divides many here.its just a shame that rvp is always injured as i rate him highly and on days like yesterday he usually delivers something special.

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Fulwell, is Diaby capable of brilliance? Definitely. Of consistency? On the evidence of his years and years wearing our kit, not really.

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

RvP is what special is made of, KT. I think we all agree he gives our team a better dimension. A fit Robin; and a firing Cesc is always a thing of beauty.

Fulwell
Fulwell
15 years ago

Denilson is not in the same class as RVP, who when fit the best striker in the Prem imo. He couild have ripped Ferdinand to shreds yesterday. Denilson is good dont get me wrong, but given the class you have had up front over the years with Henry, Bergkamp, RVP etc not in the same class. Do do know how spoilt you are dont you with what you have to put up with….. you could have been watching Daryl Murphy for 3 seasons as have had too!!!

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Fulwell your team dominated us especially in the first half similar to what barca did to us at the Emirates.if chavs/mancs/totts had done that im sure theyd have had more column inches in today’s papers.i like Bruce and i know for a fact that he is on good terms with Aw since we recommend players to him.he is doing a fantastic job.i remember last season you almost beat the mancs at trafford and i truly felt for you.if cattermole improves his disciplinary record he’ll be a massive player for you.

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if Blackpool are hit for a dozen– at least. 🙁

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Inter are losing to Palermo.its good to see Rafa in control…inter don’t look like European champs.

Fulwell
Fulwell
15 years ago

Cheers K-TR7….. I dont think we have evr been compared to Barca before 🙂 Im surprised you like Bruce due to his Manc roots to good on you. Cattermole is a good player but totally brainless, and has already cost us 4 points because of it!! We have a lad Jordan Henderson who played yesteray who is a better footballer, and will be at a top 3/4 club soon…. we cant hang on to class like he has. In 2 years time he could be with you and you will love him (apart from his set pieces but you have enough people to do that already!)

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

I must admit bent annoys me.he is a self-proclaimed arsenal fan but he can’t stop scoring against us.i hope you don’t run out of steam like you did last season.fulwell we had 35% possession in the first half which was the lowest we’ve had since barca games.even when we were battered by chavs/mancs we had almost 60% in those games.it also seems you rate rvp highly…a fully fit forward line of rvp,AA and theo would’ve left ferdinand with much more than headaches.cheers!

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Rico i hope that forward line is available vs tiny totts and the mancs in the league.gallas wouldn’t want to face that while the mancs are conceding more goals than usual.Eto’o has just rescued inter with a brace…

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

Good night, kids. 🙂 It was fun defending my not particularly defensible favorite defenseur.

agirlagunner
agirlagunner
15 years ago

It would have been nice to have heard from oliver, RA, and WATH too. 🙂 Yawn. Really sleepy.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Night agag.rico i want revenge for the 5-1 demolition a few years ago.that really hurt my ego and im sure fabianski is still mentally scarred by it.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Rico i can see city troubling the chavs next week.they play with 3 dms so if city score first…i can’t wait for october 3rd.i hope AA has another anfield moment.hope cesc will be available.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Winning is a habit as they say.we need to get the monkey off our backs and if the CC is the trophy to do it,so be it!i also heard twichy say he’ll play fringe players.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Having ade,balotelli…in the same team isn’t the best way to build a team but on this occasion i think they’ll put alot of effort in the game just to prove a point.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

I want to see nordveit,afobe,chuks,JET,landsbury and sceczeny as the only inexperienced players.the rest should include denilson,djourou,gibbs,eboue,vela and maybe rosicky/nasri/wilshere.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Rico im not saying balotelli is involved but if he was fit he’d be in the same sitiuation as ade.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Ade had the nerve to say city are bigger than us.i actually think he and allardyce are very similar.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

I forgot to mention Eastmond rico.its also almost given djourou will start but who do you think will partner him?miquel?squillaci?kozzer?it may also give us an insight on who will be first choice along with Tv.now we have 3 solid cbs,can djourou join them?

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

I wish frimpong was available for this one rico but shit happens.Eastmond for me have very good positional sense more of a makelele role but i hope he has bulked up.he can be a top player no doubt.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Imagine if bellamy was still at city?mancini would’ve already walked out.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Of course rico.i’ll cover this season’s action.leave all those posts to me.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Barça are leading A.madrid right now.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

W.A.T.H Evening to you.we have covered alot hope you catch up to speed.rico i promised a post on denilson which may be ready this week.i’ll also analyse our defensive strategy for the season in another post.don’t worry rico i’m glad to be of importance.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Good to see rico that i’m rubbing off on you…

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Rico merida isn’t an athletico regular yet.W.A.T.H agag tried to defend clichy but she couldn’t do i in the end.clichy needs to cut out his mistakes.gibbs i don’t think is ready yet.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Rico i’ve got to say kudos to you.this blog has just made it to NN and now we’re clocking over 300 responses.you can’t make this stuff up.this blog is quality,hope it continues.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Rico i felt merida was impatient.he was technically excellent as Aw put it.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Night all…

jonsafc
jonsafc
15 years ago

U guys played superb on Wednesday btw, and I was impressed how well that team created chances and flowed. Imagine my initial thoughts when Wenger announced exactly the same team on Saturday against us!……. It almost makes me cry with joy that lady luck went our way for a change, however it also probably illustrates just how poor the Romanian opposition was last week!! Just make sure u stay above Harry Fishfaces bunch of misfits cos we also hate em up here in Sunderland!!!

Harry Mac
Harry Mac
15 years ago

Sorry I didn’t manage to get a reply in yesterday, damn works computer blocked your site!
Well I said on friday I’d settle for a draw and after witnessing the first half I thought we’d get all three. We were pretty wasteful up front with abit of a toothless finish, but the approach play was incredible (for us)and I couldn’t believe we were poinning the Arsenal back in their half for about 40 of the first 45 mins. As a footballing spectacle I thought it had it all, with skill, flair, commitment, determination and teamwork. To be fair though neither keeper was particularly troubled throughout the game. Great support from you lot as always and a great atmosphere. Couldn’t fault the ref for the red card, he had it coming for persistence if not the dissent especially for the first, a decent bodycheck guaranteed his second. Otherwise there wasn’t a bad tackle on either side really. If you are to win the title you need to learn how to be as physically strong as you were but still maintain the footballing flair you so clearly possess. We saw flashes of it on saturday and each time it looked as though it was coming to the fore the crowd got instantly nervous that another typical Arsenal goal was coming. Thankfully we got at them and snubbed out the danger.
Again a very fair and balanced blog which has been recognised up here thanks to a site called Salut Sunderland, another fair minded site.
Seriously good luck for the rest of the season, I hope Wenger grows up, we don’t need another ferguson!
Man-of-the-match? El Mohameddy, won EVERY header and had the right back in his pocket.

Jamie
Jamie
15 years ago

At last, a sensible Gooner. Far to many of your lot just repeat Wenger’s predictable tirade, and it gets very boring. A very good article that sums up the match completely. Thanks for giving Sunderland credit where it’s due.

Dave
Dave
15 years ago

As a Sunderland fan, I have been very surprised and impressed by the reaction of most Arsenal fans to the game. Reading website reports and, more particularly talking to fans on the way out of the stadium when they couldn’t have been anything other than gutted, almost to a man they have been reasonable and accurate in their assessment of the game (This article is typical of this), far more than I think I would have been if we had conceded in the 95th minute.
Arsenal were not unlucky, Song deserved to be sent off for a clear 2nd yellow after a first given for persistent fouling rather than the 1 offence shown on Match of the Day. Sunderland deserved at least a point and dominated the game until Arsenal went down to 10 men. I have to say that, with 10 men, Arsenal were absolutely brilliant and gave a lesson in passing and movement, which was so good that they deserved a point just for this, so I think a draw was fair. Had they played like that with 11 they would have won easily.
I was very interested to see Wilshere due to the clamour in the press (and from that clown Adrian Durham on Talksport) for England to build the side around him now, whereas I haven’t heard anyone praising Jordan Henderson in the media, despite playing the whole of last season in the premier league. I have to say that I am really pleased that no-one in the ‘national’ (i.e. London) press seems to have noticed Henderson before Saturday as it means he has developed quietly without any chance of having his head turned. Both Henderson and Wilshere are excellent prospects, but with a lot to learn. Saturday was my first chance to compare the 2 and, purely on that game, I am pleased to have Henderson.
Finally, anyone who watched the whole game and then watched Match of the Day must surely be wondering if they were dreaming during the game. I have never seen such a biased edit of a game. They showed every attack Arsenal had and failed to show (off the top of my head), Riveros missing a free header inside the 6 yard box, Ferdinand having a header cleared off the line and Gyan heading straight at Almunia. Having said that, showing Sunderland actually creating chances wouldn’t have backed up the ridiculous analysis from Alan Shearer, who, having been remarkably fair to Sunderland when we were first promoted has reverted to type now that we are turning into a competitive Premier League side.