Strongest eleven or play the fringe players tomorrow night?

Morning all.

I’m not overly fussed about tomorrow nights result but as Arsenal fans will be giving up their time and money to watch the boys play against one of the best sides in football, should we expect to see our strongest eleven up against Bayern?

Our Champions League destination is in our own hands. Win all the remaining group fixtures and we’ll make the knock-out stages, lose tomorrow and we’re pretty much out. As Arsene Wenger said on Saturday, not even a 0-0 will do us any good.

Should we win tomorrow, what are the chances of us beating Bayern again in two weeks time and what’s the chances of winning all of the other fixtures? Slim to none spring to mind, a bit like back in 2003/04 when at this stage of the competition, we sat bottom of our group with just one point. How we ended up topping the group that season I don’t know.

Arsene Wenger has made it quite clear that he really wants to win the Premier League again so he has to make a big decision ahead of tomorrow nights fixture. Does he stick with David Ospina in goal and play the likes of Gibbs, Debuchy, Chambers, Arteta, Flamini etc etc? Or field the strongest side he can and go for the win?

I don’t think it would be worth going with the latter, not in the long run, as this is perhaps the best chance we’ll have to win the league for a while and the Champions League would be nothing other than a hindrance. Too many players have played too many matches and any one of them could pick up an injury playing again so soon after the international break and a tough fixture just a couple of days ago…

Everton travel to The Emirates on Saturday for an evening kick-off and I’d hate to see a few of our key players missing that one….

What do you think?

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Have a good Monday all…

 

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Adam
Adam
10 years ago

I have been having loading problems loading HH for a few days now too.

Adam
Adam
10 years ago

I would have thought that the CL has gone for us, but who knows? But we do need to maintain the performance level we are setting in the PL so a strong team for me.
No Europa League though for sure.

Wavy
Wavy
10 years ago

Mixed feelings, really. I don’t want to us putout of the CL ignominiously but I don’t want to watch Thursday football, even if it does mean the reserves get to fly around Europe and beyond! If the old chap thinks we still have a chance of qualifying he should put out the strongest team but, if he’s given up on this year’s comp then he should save the cream and aim for last spot! Shocking I know but, as Rico said, it’s possibly our best chance of winning our league, this year and I think old Silverado might well hand in his meal ticket, a la red nose, if the Arsenal were title holders! Then again he would be left dissatisfied as he would never have won, nor could he if he resigned, have actually attempted to win the CL! So what will he do tomorrow? He’ll select a stronger team than he was going to, in order to give himself and the team half a chance of qualification and playing beyond Xmas.
We’ll see, maybe he’ll give us all a steer after 12.30.
Gosh, I’m almost excited!

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
10 years ago

Morning all.
A full tilt assault at the League is what I’d like to see.
Two woeful performances have Alamos totally killed off any CL aspirations we might have had, so let’s send a decent side out to have a crack, but rest a few lads that have had a busy schedule.

Tai
Tai
10 years ago

Whatever logic behind it, I wouldn’t want us to field a weakened side just because we’re aiming for the title. AW wouldn’t do that and I’d go with him all the way. If, and it’s looking a big IF, England gets stripped of one CL spot, I wouldn’t want the blame to be anywhere around Arsenal.

Besides, who says this Arsenal side can’t beat Bayern? They can and they will tomorrow…whoever knows things about Arsenal should place a huge bet on their beating Bayern tomorrow. The Arsenal I’ve come to know will take four points off Bayern. Sounds crazy but I’m confident they will.

Afternoon Rico, All…

Nice post

Tai
Tai
10 years ago

Four points off Bayern and we’re very much in it and should qualify. Having a stronger squad is no more a guarantee in the EPL…any team can beat another on any turf…just look at West Ham.

Chelsea still have a very strong squad…imagine if Arsenal were presently in Chelsea’s position!

Conservatism will have a lot to play henceforth in this league.

malaga gooner
malaga gooner
10 years ago

afternoon rico and the house
nice post
i voted for a weaken side and have now changed my mind. if we can get a win it will bolster our belief even more.
im not sure the fans who turn up on tuesday will be happy to see a weakened team.

Madhav - Indian Gunner
Madhav - Indian Gunner
10 years ago

We should field a best side in Bayern match. After saying that, if we consider the next six matches, we need to play our best team in 5 matches except Shiefield.
1) Bayern (H) – CL
2) Everton (H) – PL
3) Shiefield (A) – LC
4) Swansea (A) – PL
5) Bayern (A) – CL
6) Tottenham (H) – PL
If we are to stay in contention for a champions league place, we’ll have to play our best to get the maximum points.
The three PL matches are very much tricky and they’ll play to beat us at all cost. We can’t take risk by playing with a weaker side, which would reduce our chance to win the league. We need our best team to take points from all three matches to stay in the title challenge.
This is the part of season where squad depth is required to fight for the title (our weakness). Hope our players don’t fall into fatigue or injury.

potter
potter
10 years ago

He has no option, the United game upped the stakes and he needs to keep the team’s spirits up . a win might be on the cards but even a draw assists in the coefficients . Should we fail to win the league , a narrow defeat would mean we might need the points to get a better draw next year.

tsgh
tsgh
10 years ago

Good post…
A strong squad for me..; winning is a habit. the ex-pros keep telling us.

Rico, I have a pre-match post for you if you haven’t written one yet.

allezkev
allezkev
10 years ago

Well, being quite neutral about things, I want Wenger to rest a few players and save them for the Everton match, which is far more important…

Hold on…..!

I’ve just got a ticket for the Bayern game…

So, in that case, I insist that Wenger plays his strongest team…

I will be outraged if he rests players… 🙂

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
10 years ago

A strong and the best possible team for me.
We must win for have any chances for go throught
The game will be broadcast arround the world. It’s in cause our prestige.
The others teams has also international games.
We all know, those crucial times will arrive. The squad isn’t deept enought. Everybody recognize this.
Normally, we could be close the second leg in the Champions and if it happen, the last 2-3 games we could stay in contention. Now, it’s too late for thinking in this way. Win or lost. If we lost, we can become in thinking in contention. Not for now when we are in a good moment.

Dublingunner
Dublingunner
10 years ago

Evening, strongest 11 for me, we might as well go down fighting than out with a whimper. with a full squad to choose from apart from the usual suspects, why shouldn,t we go out tomorrow night and give all, winning is a habit,it,s all about momentum now, is this what AW and the board have brought us to, not caring whether we put our strongest team out to fight for every single point left in this group, our 2 shameful performances, should be motivation enough to the team, to stand up tomorrow night and play for the Fans and the badge on their jerseys.

allezkev
allezkev
10 years ago

Well said JM, I’m with you all the way hombre…

Joe
Joe
10 years ago

I’d play the strongest team it seems to me that 9 points will take second place in the group.
Win tomorrow and even if we lose in Munich we still only have to win our last two games which we are capable of doing.

Tai
Tai
10 years ago

Joe is very right. Even six points could see us to knockout stage provided Dynamo Zagreb and Olympiacos draw both their head-to-head games.

Joe
Joe
10 years ago

Having a side like Munich in the group generally means they win most or all their games. So win tomorrow and also win two more games against the other teams in the group will give us nine points.

Joe
Joe
10 years ago

Tai it’s Arsenal we are talking about we’d never get that lucky only needing 6 points 😉

BT62 Gooner
BT62 Gooner
10 years ago

Evening all….

Strongest team for me, i’m not freezin’ me nutz off for nothing..lol

allezkev
allezkev
10 years ago

Good news…

Ajax want to send Sanogo back to Arsenal.

That’ll be our new striker sorted out then…

BT62 Gooner
BT62 Gooner
10 years ago

Kev, are you for the Rocket tomorrow night?

Tai
Tai
10 years ago

Rico…this is football…and you never say never. Bayern is a great team…but the Arsenal team that beat them at the Alianz Arena had no Sanchez, no Cech, not even Ozil…

Tai
Tai
10 years ago

Neither were we strong enough to beat West Ham but we did beat Man U!

Tai
Tai
10 years ago

Of course they’re not…same way I wouldn’t believe Bayern are any better than Olympiacos…

Tai
Tai
10 years ago

Night Rico…hope we’d all be having a good laugh by this time tomorrow.

allezkev
allezkev
10 years ago

Sorry BT…

Not tomorrow mate, I’ll be working up to close to kick-off…

If I go to a Saturday or Sunday game I go in there…
You in there then mate?
You’ll love it, it has a great vibe, full of Gooners, big TV screens, wall-to-wall football… 😉

It would a great venue for a HH Christmas party… 🙂

BT62 Gooner
BT62 Gooner
10 years ago

Kev, i’ll be in from about 6pm, i know the Rocket well, usually head to the match from there, done a few of their parties over the years. Pity your not about earlier, would have been nice to have had a beverage or two with you…..lol

Next time perhaps, certainly plenty of room for a Christmas party..

Tai
Tai
10 years ago

Morning Rico, All…

Woke up today, feeling more optimistic than I’ve ever been. Bayern is falling tonight. Say it loud in London, Munich, all of Chile, Nigeria et al…

tsgh
tsgh
10 years ago

Morning Rico, tai and all..

Bt- are you paying for the HH Christmas party? 🙂

tsgh
tsgh
10 years ago

FC Munchens’ record of 9 wins out of 9 seems very impressive but in my view they can be beaten…
They have relied a lot on Muller and Lew’s goals…; their makeshift central defender Alaba can be exposed.

allezkev
allezkev
10 years ago

That’s a definate, BT…
We can share a jug of beer for sure… 🙂

Tai
Tai
10 years ago

Morning Ts…

We’re beating Bayern tonight.

Ts, please can you post the starting line-up between both sides when we hammered them 2 – 0 in Munich?

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
10 years ago

Morning all.

Tai
Tai
10 years ago

Well, I never encountered problem over here with the site. So…

Wath
Wath
Admin
10 years ago

I have one complaint Rico, the post are becoming far to precise eloquent and grammatically correct…. I can’t understand a bloody word……………!

😉

Oh and morning you lot…………..

Bye……….

tsgh
tsgh
10 years ago

Tai- for us we had Flappy in goal.
Defence- Gibbs, CJ25, Kosser, Per.
Midfield- Ramsey- Arteta-TR07
AM- SC19, Theo

with OG12 upfront.

That was the game Jupp Heynckes singled out my man MA08 and TR07 as the difference between first leg and second leg.
That game re-started AR16’s career with us

tsgh
tsgh
10 years ago

Morning Wath- and Bye

tsgh
tsgh
10 years ago

FC Hollywood started with Neuer, Lahm, Van Buyten, Dante, Alaba, Javi Martinez, Gustavo, Muller, Kroos, Robben, Mandzukic

tsgh
tsgh
10 years ago

Much quicker for me today Rico

Adam
Adam
10 years ago

Morning Rico and all.
Rico, you have an editor then? 🙂

tsgh
tsgh
10 years ago

I hope your editor was not Wath- I can’t trust that bloke.. 😉

tsgh
tsgh
10 years ago

Hi Adam… well, I thought her editor was you but since you are asking I am beginning to wonder… 🙂

Tai
Tai
10 years ago

Thanks Ts…

Now add Cech, Gabriel, Monreal, Bellerin in places of Flappy, Per, Gibbs and Jenks respectively in defence…meaning only Kozzer remains…

Put Le Coq, Carzola, Ozil in place of AR08, TR7, Ramsey…in the middle.

Then have Ramsey Sanchez, Theo in place of Theo, Carzola, OG12 in attack.

What do we have?

A far better Arsenal in every department.

Adam
Adam
10 years ago

Morning TS. Certainly not me. 🙂

Tai
Tai
10 years ago

And apart from Lewnadowski, that bayern looked more fearsome than what we have today, even if Guardiola should be feared more than Heynckes…

tsgh
tsgh
10 years ago

I hear you Tai- but you are forgetting the Bavarians have Alonso, and Vidal in place of Kroos and Gustavo.

In my view, Sc19 and Le coq are not tactical enough to handle Lahm, Alonso and Thiago in CM.

Plus they have Lew instead of mandzukic…
Both teams are stronger but I think we are stronger defensively than they are. I don’t rate their main defenders Rafinha, Boateng, alaba and Bentrand.

The naivety of AW will be a factor. Pep will start with 2 more defensive players than we will, whilst AW will most probably go all out.

Tai
Tai
10 years ago

That’s a good one Ts…but has Vidal truly settled in?

AW should forget any attempt at possessive football with any Guardiola team…play direct. With the paces of Sanchez and Walcott…Bayern will be vulnerable…

Carzola and Le Coq can never be intimidated by any midfield on a good day…and they’ve been having good days all season.

No Per and Koz and Gabriel would give Lew a game of his life!

Thank goodness there’s no Robin…the other Messi, who can effortlessly unlock any defense.

allezkev
allezkev
10 years ago

Much better without the adverts Rico…

allezkev
allezkev
10 years ago

Maybe the adverts have more of an effect on those blogging from a phone?

allezkev
allezkev
10 years ago

London has been invaded by the Chinese…

Loads of little smiley people all over the place, 🙂

tsgh
tsgh
10 years ago

Agreed there Tai.

You are right re Vidal btw

tsgh
tsgh
10 years ago

lol Kev. Are you going to be given a gun salaute whilst you drive Xi to HM’s Palace? 😛

Wath
Wath
Admin
10 years ago

Ts, If I was the editor I would encrypt it so you had something to do all day long………. 🙂

Wavy
Wavy
10 years ago

Morning Rico and the House.

Much quicker today. It was just like the old days! Fast, direct and up!

Tonight? Arsenal to win a close and intense match, 2-1. A bit of a nail biter. And a few squeaky bottom So!

On the negative side, anything less than a win will sanction our demise from this competition.

Wavy
Wavy
10 years ago

Bottoms. iPad still not up to snuff despite a massive improvement on the blogosphere!