Well, for this year at Wimbledon anyway.
I was so sure Rafael Nadal would win yesterday and was pretty disappointed when he didn’t. Wasn’t the best of games though, I still wonder today what would have happened if both players had been able to play at their highest level throughout the entire match?
Had they been able to, I am sure we would have seen five sets and a much higher quality of a match but I bet Djokovic didn’t give a hoot when he lifted that trophy……..
Yesterday, although the players are close in the rankings I think most would agree that Nadal was the favourite going into the game, despite Djokovic having already secured his number one status in the game.
The difference yesterday was the so called underdog played the big points better and he also had the bigger fight in him on the day.
Which brings me on to today’s post…
How many times last season were we beaten by the so called underdog??
Wenger signed Nasri for a pretty big price considering his age and experience but what has he really done for us apart for 4-5 months at the start of last season?
Now he wants out (so the papers say), to win trophies he says, well my answer to that is, perhaps if he showed more heart in the second half of the season, we may have..
Bendtner and Denilson have said things similar, about how they are winners and want to move on to win things. Both have been shocking this season when they have been given the chance…
Then look to Diaby, a player which divides fans, ok he’s not had the best of seasons but he’s not talking about leaving and maybe that is because he knows how he is played but wants to put that right. Vermaelen is another – jeez this guy is one of the feistiest and committed on the pitch we have, is he ready to quit? No is the answer, Sagna the same…
Then there is Little Jack and Ramsey, they know where it’s best and they are staying….
I know I have missed a few but I am sure you get my point, they don’t have it in them to fight for their place or to win and grind out results when matters or when we are udder the cosh.
What we need to make us stronger isn’t players with big price tags or so called star names, it’s about what they have inside them and if that means Arsene Wenger signs 5/6 players who cost £1 Million each but they fight for every last ball on the pitch every game, let nothing go past them and have that inner belief, we may just start winning things…
Ok, I know they won’t cost £1 Million but again, I think you get my point…..
That may mean we won’t see the wonderful football that so many suggest we play at times, I’m not so sure we play that well any more but, I’d rather see a great game of football with an Arsenal win than watch us keep possession, pass a million times only to lose that possession and with it the game, wouldn’t you?
What we need is palyers with heart, heart, guts and determination to win, as that is what wins trophies…
Which takes me back to yesterdays men’s final at Wimbledon.
Have a good day all….
Morning all…
Sky Sports report Clichy is to have a medical at Citeh today….
Morning all.
Hi Kt
Busy week for Wenger??
Its actually pathetic how barca think they can get cesc on the cheap because we took Toral and Bellerin in a perfectly legal manner.ap because we took Toral and Bellerin in a perfectly legal manner.
Busy week indeed rico.
That’s how cocky they are Kt, the players return today don’t they??
Morning all…..cracking post as usual HH.
Good point about the ‘passing game’.
I think one area that let us down badly last season was, in spite of us playing the ‘passing game’, our passing was actually very poor. In so many games we would make two passes and then give the ball away. There were many examples but one that springs to mind was at home to Fulham; we just could not pass our way out of our own penalty box and the ball kept coming back in again. We were lucky to win that game.
I like the passing game but it really does need more quality than we provided last year.
Morning stan, thanks 🙂
aj – i don’t mind the passing game if we are 4-0 up and 3 minutes to go and we are just keeping the ball to the cheers of ‘ollay’ – we need to start being a bit more direct, a bit more eager and shoot at the first opportunity rather than pass the ball into the net…
or not, as the case usually is more often….
Nah, I don’t buy that AJ. We are the best in the league at stringing passes together. The problem is not ball retention, it’s lack of risk taking – making passes that could result in losing possession, but could also result in chances being created.
It’s what Wenger calls “playing with the handbrake on”. It’s what I call: being scared to lose.
Long distance shooting is a classic problem in this area. The basic problem with long shots is that most of the time you’re simply giving away possession. It’s a cost-benefit ratio, and some coaches will endorse it because they believe they aren’t good enough to find another way through. Arsene believes that we can, but on last season’s evidence I’d question that.
Re: My last post, I really don’t want Kevin Doyle at Arsenal, he is not good enough. I want proven top level players who have done it against the very best and when the chips are down.
We need three to four top class, experienced warriors. A least one of the Cahill/Samba rumours, Khedira for the defensive midfield position and I would push the boat out and get a Benzema level forard to not only help the players but to bolster fans confidence and give everyone a boost.
Shooting and over passing around the area when on the attack, that’s our problem…
If cesc isn’t sold by Sunday then i don’t think he’ll leave.if cesc boards that trip to Asia then barca will have to wait another year. wait another year.
Will
I like Doyle, I would be happy if Wenger signed him…
Not exactly going to set fans heart rates soaring though Rico and hardly a top level, been there done it type of player. Do you really want us to be buying from the lower divisions to take on the worlds best?
Savage its just like crossing.only 23% of the crosses last season resulted into goals.long range shooting isn’t really that effective too but sometimes they go in.we did not score a single longrange goal at the Emirates last season..we did not score a single longrange goal at the Emirates last season.
The problem we have is, we have no off the ball runners. How often do you see a wide man or a midfielder run beyond the forwards. I do agree, we don’t play the beautiful game, we play: pass pass pass pass pass lose the ball but we need players to be more dynamic who will run just to see if he can get the ball.
If they fight for their place and score goals, I don’t care where they come from Will, like i said in the post….
Torres cost £50 Million, but he didn’t help the Chavs to glory did he??
Robinho at Citeh??
Ballotelli at Citeh??
Heart, passion and comittment is what we need and if everyone gives that, we’ll soon be winning again….
good morning.
How many players will going to Arsenal-B (M.City) this season?
All fair points Rico but do we really want to be buying at the bargain basement or in Harrods?
Yes you have given three examples and great examples they are but they are also examples of owners buying players for the manager and owners willing to over-spend to get those players. Who else would have paid £50M for Torres?
I would get Doyle but as a package with a top class proven striker so that gives Doyle the time needed to adjust to the better players we face and the higher expectations.
Morning JM, reports are that Clichy is due his medical at Citeh today…
Further talks due between Wenger and Nasri…
Will we have been saying that for a while.off the ball running is a very important aspect in modern football.Barca overrun the mancs due to the consant movement of their players.
If we lose Niki B and get Doyle, I would not be disapointed….
Up front we already have RvP, Theo and Chamakh… We now just need a striker who knows where the goal is and in a team that creates so many chances, I’m sure Doyle would have a field day…
I believe nasri is doing a rooney right now and i believe he’ll sign in the end.
Will, re the money side, that’s life now, it’s football and it’s allowed so we have to all get used to it sadly – had the big russian taken oven instead of Stan, we would be doing the same right now….
Kt, agree re the off the ball movement, Theo did it a few times last season, not enough i know but when he did, Rvp nabbed his goals…
That surely has to a task for Wenger, it’s his job to rectify such problems…
But will he?
I wouldn’t be surprised Kt, has he actually said he wants to go? Or has he just said he wants to win trophies, I believe it’s the latter…
If he and Wenger sit down and together and Wenger tells him who will be joining, hopefully that will see that our club is the one to win trophies with and not just take the easy option….
If Nasri hasn’t the stomach to fight for what Arsenal achieve then maybe it’s best he goes anyway….
Wikki could be responsible for the Doyle rumours, it suggests we have had an 8.5M bid accepted…
Wonder who has been ‘Wikki fiddling’ 😉
I don’t think nasri has ever had the intention of joining city/mancs.he was bluffing and Wenger called it. was bluffing and Wenger called it.
The main problem is wenger is under utilizing our current team. When was the last time we bought a proven winger. The last I can remember was booby pires. Rosicky was a central mid fielder yet he was converted into a winger. So was hleb,nasri and lately ashavin. Will is right we don’t have runners off the ball. With what I have seen of gervinho I think that problem is over…..I hope.
The basic question regarding passing/shooting/crossing is: how much is based on Wenger instruction, and how much is based on player fear?
For instance, remember Song barging forward early in the season? Clearly it stopped happening after that, so I think Wenger gave Song clear instructions after that, and I think we’d all agree he should be staying back.
Frankly, our long distance shooting was poor last season when we did try it, so I understand the hesitancy. Our best long shot at the club i.m.o. is TV, and he was injured. Another good hitter is Denilson, but he brings nothing else. Rosicky used to be good. Ramsey is promising too, but he was also injured. Now if JW could find his range…
Stan, we should have bought Young, then the problem would have been over 😉
Kt, we should know more very soon, nine days and we play our first game in Asia….
Savage, good comment, agree re Song too, no way should he be bombing into the penalty area, he’s not quick enough to get back 😉
Half of our problem was players thinking they always had to find Cesc with a pass, i keep whinging on about this but it really bugs me… Maybe they are lining up a shot when they heard heis demanding voice… another pass and another shooting chance gone….
RvP shoots but then he’s older and wiser than Fabregas…. Theo is also just starting to take a pop at goal when he can…
Goonerstan, I’m surprised that you regarded Pires as a winger? In what sense?
Savage if he’s not a winger then what the heck is he?
Pires is described as being a winger/attacking midfielder….
Left Attacking midfielder (LAM).
I’m jumping in at the end of a long-running conversation about the definition of a winger. There are many Gooners who believe that the last real winger we had was Marc Overmars – basically someone who went flying down the wing and delivered crosses and got back around the full-back.
Pires spent a lot of time cutting in and playing through the middle. His other big role was late runs into the box or decisive cut-backs. Nasri should be playing this role, but either the passing is not as incisive, or we’re lacking late runners like we had in Henry, Bergkamp, Freddie and Wiltord. Our 433 seems to result in having too few players in forward positions to pass to. By the time the late runners arrive, the defence has regrouped and we have to pass through 10 players. It’s a pattern we saw over and over last season.
The answer? Either we have to execute more quickly with blinding pace and dangerous balls, or we have to get another player into dangerous positions to support RVP and create options.
Remember Arshavin’s run into the box against Barcelona – that was possible based on two factors: 1) The move was so quick that defenders were pulled way out of position, 2) RVP’s movement took several defenders with him, allowing the late runner to run free into space.
Let’s not start getting pedantic, on his wikki page he is descibed as a winger/attacking midfielder – we have more things to worry about 😉
Thank you RICO…..
I see we’ve bought 4 players this morning………….
At last…………..!
Morning all…!
Savage i think i’ll enjoy blogging with you.i have been saying the exact same thing here for months now.that AA goal was classic invincibles stuff.we never gave them time to reorganize at all.it is also noteworthy that jack’s ability to jink out of pressure from several barca players to play that first time pass was instrumental to that.that goal was a beauty.thing here for months now.that AA goal was classic invincibles stuff.we never gave them time to reorganize at all.it is also noteworthy that jack’s ability to jink out of pressure from several barca players to play that first time pass was instrumental to that.that goal was a beauty.
No, it’s a valid issue and one we can’t avoid by labelling it pedantic. We have a problem against packed defences and Goonerstan quite rightly raises the issue of wingers as a potential solution.
I think there’s a call for pace and directness, and wingers are usually known for giving you that. Perhaps Gervinho can do this for us?
I guess the issue with Pires is: where does the pace come from? With the invincibles it came primarily from Henry being released by fantastic passes, from Pires, Vieira and Dennis mainly. Wiltord was also quick, and so was Freddie.
In the current team, we have TW down the right, but once he’s made the run he doesn’t have Henry’s awareness to finish off the move well enough. RVP doesn’t play that running game as well as Henry, and Chamakh even less so. Arshavin does it sometimes but not enough (stamina?), while Nasri actually doesn’t have genuine pace, so he ends up running down the line, reversing and coming backwards again, bringing us to square one. Pires had this problem sometimes, but he worked so well with Cole and Henry to create overlaps, and for some reason we’re not getting that with Clichy.
Thats true savage.i think thats why Wenger is so keen on Gervinho as he is constantly on the move.when theo isn’t playing we are very one paced and i think Arsene has identified that.diaby when on form is an absolute beast at off the ball movements as the goal against Blackpool last season,Villa and newcastle away in 08/09 showed.e are very one paced and i think Arsene has identified that.diaby when on form is an absolute beast at off the ball movements as the goal against Blackpool last season,Villa and newcastle away in 08/09 showed.
Hi WATH, four eh, you been dreaming again 😉
Savage, i just mean over Bobby, i agree we need wingers, we should have got Young….
Yip, Young would have been good – I guess Wenger thought a 11 million pound Gervinho was a better deal than a 17 million pound Young. British player inflation all over again. It’s said that Gervinho is not a prolific scorer, but Young isn’t either. In Young’s defence though, he’s proven in the league.
Honestly, watching a player with absolute frightening pace is one of the best experiences in football. The whole crowd gets a lift when TW goes on one of his runs.
One more point before I go: trying to figure out Pires is one of the reasons we all loved the Invincibles and why they spawned a whole stash of blogs…
… it was because nobody was really quite sure how they did it 🙂
If clichy is leaving then Wenger must surely have somebody lined up already because gibbs isn’t ready.you can just see the smug look on his face once he plucks that rabbit out of his hat without anyone seeing it coming.it out of his hat without anyone seeing it coming.
It was like boom boom pow…!
I’d Young any day Savage, like you say, PL ready and proved but who knows, Gervinho may surpirse us all, if he signs of course 😉
Talking of Wenger surprises – how about this Ahmedov guy? Come on, that would be a fun signing! Would infuriate a lot of fans though, until he comes on against United a thunder tackles Rooney, Vidic and Fletcher to the floor.
Savage that would be a typical wenger signing.
The invincibles were really an incredible team.their football was simple but effective.watching cole,pires and Henry interchange passes on the left flank was a joy to behold.old.
Pace, purpose, players running forward and passes going forward. No tippy-tappy, tiki-taka, tripitaka type football. Possession was gained everyone’s first thought was goal. Now it’s keep the ball.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSyaVhuIqCU
I would sign doyle….he’s way ahead of bendtner. He’s also a feisty forward. Kevin is a handful for any defense. I saw him out muscle terry and ivanovic in the same game…..twice!
What happened to the “samba to arsenal” rumor? Am getting sick of this…even cahill has gone quiet. Am worried guys.
GAEL CLICHY is in Manchester for a medical ahead of sealing a switch to Eastlands.
The Arsenal and France left-back, 25, was spotted leaving a restaurant in the city centre last night.
And he is undergoing tests at a hospital in the area today before sealing the move.
Clichy and his adviser Darren Dein are set to thrash out a £7million deal with Manchester City this week.
They tried to avoid cameras as they used the rear exit of the popular San Carlo restaurant.
But our crafty snappers caught the grinning pair on the way out after their luxury Italian meal.
Stan its really worrying how things have gone quiet.am also curious who will be our new LB.also curious who will be our new LB.
Will, amazing video. If the team can play like that on a regular basis, I’m not sure what Alan Hansen would have left to say…
We play with fear now rather than tearing teams apart.
good post rico,
clichy gone it seems doesnt matter much it seems….
time to get busy
We have no penetration and no speed cos we don’t play the right system for the right players…! no good having skillful players with no penetration…! its why we can’t break the proverbial parked bus down…!
Ashley Young for 15mil over Gervinho anyday of the week and the bloke is gonna be off for two months to that crap ACN in jan/feb….. nice one arsene good thinking yet again…!
I wonder if wenger has the balls to go buy Baines n Cahill…????
Prob not…!
Imagine a team in the bottom half at Highbury tunnels lining up with the invincibles…they knew the game was lost even before it started.we used to watch lightning fast counters week in week out.watching telepathic interplay at lightning speed was a joy to behold.nvincibles…they knew the game was lost even before it started.we used to watch lightning fast counters week in week out.watching telepathic interplay at lightning speed was a joy to behold.
Good riddance,was never a fan. We need better.
KT, imagine standing in the tunnel against a team of giants as well, not in the tunnel at the emirates lined up against a team of dwarfs..! You can never underestimate the intimidation factor, we dont have that now at all…!
yesterday saw the copa america….saw brazil vs venezuela.saw the likes of neymar and ganzo for the first time live and they do have some serious quality….their formation was the same as ours 4-2-3-1 and that excited me to see how they played because they to were a young side…
julio cesar
alves lucio thaigo silva andre santos
lucas ramirez
robinho ganzo neymar
pato
the score was 0-0 but like us they to tried to pass the ball into the net….if nasri goes we should go for neymar he will be a top player ….what do you think of their lb andre santos who had a solid game for brazil
Be interesting to see if an Italian can teach clichy how to defend properly…!
Boo,
So did he pass???
Are our players back today???
Owen Coyle says no bid from Arsenal for Cahill……. Isn’t that just typical…..!
Gazidis and wenger must be on the phone all the time to their wealth managers seeing if their share portfolios have gone up then….! Pathetic…!
Training starts 2moro Rico…!
Just heard that about Cahill, what a bollox brain Wenger is…..
Thanks WATH, Wenger/gazidis are free enough to sort the clichy deal though isn’t he….. they should be buying….
surely wenger and coyle wouldn’t keep it quiet would they, they can’t…
this gets worse……
Wath imagine you are a CB in the highbury tunnel and you see henry and bergkamp looking at you just smiling.you knew those 2 bastards had something up their sleeve and they were going to tear you a new one and they are already loving it.ust smiling.you knew those 2 bastards had something up their sleeve and they were going to tear you a new one and they are already loving it.
He’ll get bought by someone else who’s willing to pay the going rate and wenger will be spouting the same old shit abt close to buying him etc etc etc…..! we’ll end up with 2 more squillaci’s…! No wonder all our better players wanna leave…….! A board with no ambition but to line their pockets and a manger who’s to stuck in his own egotistical word to correct his mistakes…! Joke…!
Haha, WATH having a total meltdown. Hope there’s somebody around to clean up 🙂
Clichy for only £7milion?
KT, Then you looked back to see Vieira and Petit/Gilberto and then Adams and Keown and you just knew it was gonna be a long long 90mins…!
I bet he’s not even inrerested in him WATH, knowing how tight he is, the Chavs will end up getting him no doubt, makes me sick the way we do business….
Joke indeed!
If AW surpises us all, I will eat humble pie, big slices of it but I don’t expect he will….
Last year of his contract JM….
He’s in his last year of his contract JM thats why 7mil….!
Someone needs to clean up the meltdown at Colney Savage…. especially in wengers office…..! 🙂
Clichy_Official Gael Clichy on FB….
Would like to thank all of the fans here who appreciate what i’ve done for Arsenal and who are understanding for my decision to leave.
That’s the last Invincible gone then……
Maybe Wenger will announce all of his new signings tomorrow, in a lst ditch attempt to keep Nasri and Fabregas 😉 😉
According to Coyle, nobody has bid for Cahill. Unless I’m mistaken, that includes Chelsea. But I might be wrong – maybe the word “nobody” means “only Chelsea”.
What you guys don’t realise is that a lack of a bid doesn’t mean there’s been no discussion. Wenger phones Bolton and they say “We won’t accept less than 22 million, so don’t phone us back until you have it”, and Wenger then decides that’s too much for a player who isn’t even a regular for his country. So Bolton say “nobody has bid”, and they’re right, but that doesn’t tell the whole story. Wenger said he’s been very busy on the phone, and I believe him.
The club is in good hands, and I’m just waiting like the rest of you to know what AW has got up his sleeve.
Savage, I love your optimism but in all honesty if wenger really wanted Cahill, he would have got him by now, he knows his price…
There is speculation that Nikki B was offered in the deal but Bolton don’t want him. I don’t believe that bit though….
The club is in good hands…… Sorry Savage but gotta disagree with you there mate and as for Cahill his buyout is 17million so we not even gonna pay that as usual.
Back shortly….
If Wenger doesn’t strengthen, he will be out of a job. I think as a highly intelligent man, Wenger knows this and I think we will see some massive signings.
Will how do you manage to stay so positive?
Because I was iin the stands n the mid 70’s and the club has been around for 125, a bad spell is not the end of the world and as I have said.
We have the number one stadium in club football
We have a training ground that people fight over
We are constantly in the top 4 and how many teams can say that
Our worse years are still better that the Spuds best.
Wenger is intelligent and I feel he has had enough of the “losers” in the squad. The man is a winner.
I seriously hope you’re right.
Any news then??
The man ain’t been a winner for 6yrs Will whats likely to change…? He WAS a winner but he’s been allowed free fun of a club due to the slack handed board who only wanted him to make then money…!. I think his ego says that they would never dare sack him…! The losers in the squad Will are all players he brought in and don’t forget at the start of the season his famous words of “this is the best sqaud i have ever had”….! Tell me thats not a delusional man in the making..? Being over there in the 70’s n 80’s isn’t on a par with whats going on now they two completely different times in football. I’m not moaning cos we aint won things for six yrs thats not it all all its the whole complacency with the board and the manager and the attitude of the club in general and the constand lies n bullshit we’ve been fed…!
😥 on Clichy.
Do you think wenger will stay if we have bad start to the season like pool did last season?
AGAG is in tatters her fav player has gone…………… Ooops…! Must I send some hankies or would u prefer a bottle of GG..?
Hi agag, i knew you wouldn’t be happy….
Yes AF, because he will bury his head in the sand and so will the board….
I am more concerned about who will replace him right now…..
GG, WATH. Vats. Container vans. A warehouse. 😥
Not a happy bunny at all, rico. 🙁 🙁
Who said Wenger “never” break a contract?
His last season at Nancy, who would nto release him and made him honor the last year of hsi contract before he jined Monanco.
Grampus to Arsenal?
WIth the directors’ blessing, he left a few months early to join Arsenal.
If we have a bad start like Liverpool 2010/11 season?
WHy will he wanted to leave as a loser?
Wenger is too proud a man to do that as no marquee European club will like to hire this “loser”; and no other European club nor EUropean fans are so tolerant as Arsenal fans to let him get away with 6 trophyless years….and out of title race even before 2011/12 season starts.
We are seeing a meltdown at Arsenal with all his hand-picked players, and yougnsters he groomed, losing confidence in him and his youth policies.
A proud man like Wenger will insist on staying to rebuild Arsenal beofre his contract expires..or Kroenke kiks him out…like AS Monaco.
No worries AGAG a bottle on its way, you’ll realise soon enough his loss is of no great importance……….
As Rico says more abt who’s coming in than who gets sold…! That is the key…! We’ll soon see exactly how much ambition the club and wenger actually have.
agag, the pictures are being shown of him at Eastlands on SS’s, he def gone ….
But, forget the man, remember the player and he has become stale, his performances have gone backwards, we need fresh new faces now…..
Back in twenty mins…
Hi agag.sorry for your loss…
“His loss is of no great importance.” Ow.
“He has become stale.” Double ow.
😥
He wasn’t all that bad, guys. (Even in my grief, I cannot say he was “terrific”.) Must. Drink. More.
Wath lets celebrate…clishit is gone!(forgive me agag)…
Wonder who will be leaving for Malaysia this Sunday???
Will Wenger be able to seal a few deals and bring new players to Asia as well?
Imagine…touirng Asia without:
1 – Cesc
2 – Nasri
3 – Clichy
4 – Bendtner
5 – Denilson
6 – Arshavin
Asian fans will certainly feel shortchanegd and may start a riot!!!
K-TR7 says:
July 4, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Wath lets celebrate…clishit is gone!(forgive me agag)…
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You know how ex-players love to score against us?
WOuldn’t surprise moi that CLichy scores against us at Eastlands..:D
Wonder how CITEH fnas will take it when Theo gives him the slip with a clear run to goal..adn score?
Better still, he makes one of his trade-mark “leg-stretch..penalty!!!…and red-carded.
KT, you need not so gleeful about it. 😥
I had hight hopes for him AGAG I really did but since the 4 all draw with the yids he has gone backwards and really is very average, i laughed a mate of mine saud his positional sense is so bad the only time he’s in the right place where h should be is for kick off..!
🙂 I kno KT will like that one…!
Nice one Wath.Merlin it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he scores against us.
Has clishit been unveiled yet…..what a turd! So glad he’s leaving he’s so error prone….
Agag i liked clichy by the way.he always gave 110% but his game had gone backwards and it seems Arsene saw that too.t his game had gone backwards and it seems Arsene saw that too.
Fabregas was at Arsenal today….
hello everyone.. Rico does that mean he will be staying?
And barca expected him not to return…cesc is an honourable young man.
thats cos Barca are a bunch of scumbuckets KT….!
Is cesc worth keeping now? Will he play better than last season?
Who do we have to buy to satisfy nasri?
Anyone?
ADK, All those questions will be answered very shortly but wengers actions….! Only time will tell
I know wath.. I was hoping somebody had an idea.. even though i’m on the run the next 3 weeks, i just can’t help my self, i have to find internet connections somewhere so that i can follow the news around the club.. but at the rate things are going now, i think i can relax and not follow any news for the next 3 weeks 😛
What do you guys think of Scott Dann?
If Arsene thinks Traore/Gibbs will replace clichy then he really has gone mad…
Hi all do you still have confidence in the manager and by extension the board to get the job done at arsenal? the manager has is delusional thinking he can keep a group of players together who knows the culture of the club blah blah blah and create an atmosphere for the players blah blah blah. It’s all theoretical, it will never work. The board keep going on about style of play and self sustaining model……..which player u think wants the style of play to be their biggest reward for playing with a club, its not like it’s even the best in the world. Let’s just see how far sustaining model will get us. I am not even gonna talk much about fifa financial fair play. It’s a farce! someone will find a way to circumvent the system. Any penalty a team would face would somehow disappear. Anyone remember Chelsea was banned from singing players for a few transfer windows. Then surprise surprise shortly after that ruling was overturned. Due to this self sustaining policy we cannot get rid of the dross as money that could have been used to otherwise sign quality players were used to give improved contracts. So now its impossible to flag them but then again we were told signing players will kill off those we already have and we are looking for quality or was it super super quality. I guess we are still looking.
Nasri says it’s not about money it’s about trophies. Well if you believe that I have London Bridge for sale, any bidders? He is basically saying I want to go to a team that if I give my all for ½ season and feel to slack off the rest then someone else will be there to pick up the slack. I would be happy to be a sub and still be highly paid while I am it.
Anyways Rico thanx for this medium to get a few thinks off my mind, not that the board cares anyways just us stupid fans.
Hi ADK, no, i am sure he’s off but until Barca pay up, he has no choice to return to us….
Coadsi, spot on mate, the board dont give a shit the self sustaining model doesnt work so well when others dont play by the same rules so every so often you have to pay over the odds to get the players you need but seems we think we’re above that rule of thought. 3 weks AKD nothing will of changed mate may of lost a few more players though lol 😀
Hi Coadsi, my short answer is no, i have no faith in either wenger or the board right now…
However, if he works a few miracles and brings in the players we need, i may think differently, just for five minutes 😉
Like I said as things stand don’t be surprised to see us biting our nails, the last game of the season when we are battling relegation. When a player like denilson turns on wenger and say i want to win things you know wenger’s rubbish theory that the board has digested is up in smoke. Well i hope wenger has the mental strength to sign the right players. And for once in a very long time i would like us to lose the best bank balance trophy and win another one.
The board, manager player are only employed to the club and have no loyalty. We as supporters are basically “stuck” with the club while they just simply move on and are employed by someone else. They don’t care about us only themselves. If anyone doubts this look how they have acted in the transfer market so far after increasing ticket prices.
Coadsi, i think we will be biting our nails from the off 😉
We won’t get relegated, mid table maybe 😉
I have faith.
I know Will and I admire that, my problem is that I have had faith in Wenger and the board for the last four seasons, believing each time something would happen…
I was left feeling a prat for believing…..
Good night, kids. I have every hope that AW will surprise us with some fantastic signings, that our Wantaway Captain stays, and that the Half Season Wonder, Now a Contract Rebel Nasri would, too.
KT and WATH, if I didn’t like Clichy so much, I would maybe find the jokes funny. As it is… 😥
Nighty, rico. I’ll be in some mood tomorrow. God save the person who crosses me. 😉
Me, too, Will.
Answer me one question: How much have Chelsea spent to win the league?
Newcastle are interested in signing Wayne Bridge, are they getting ready to sell Enrique….
SSN says the Clichy deal is done…!
Nighty agag, hope you manage to get some sleep 😉
Will, as much as i understand what you are saying, what they spend and have spent is legal in the world of football – like i said earlier, had we been taken over by the big russian, we’d be doing the same…
It’s life in football as we know it now……
What, Cahill WATH, fab 😉
Yeah but do you really want to buy the league? I don’t.
Yipee!!!
Is it really ‘buying the league’??
Or just playing within the rules…..
Right now, yes is my answer, I want us to win the league and everything else we can….
Chelsea got lucky with Roman, he’s there for a long time…..
Good to know that you have faith Will, but i agree with rico been there done that. i really cant answer how much Chelsea spent to win the league but i know how much Arsenal did not spend and it cost us the league. I don’t care about Chelsea and Wengers complaint of financial doping. financial doping for me works two ways, u cant for instance complain about club who have funds to spend and does so and in your eyes overspend and then turn around and sell your players to that same club. If u think they are immoral/doping then you are just as guilty by selling to them.
Anyone remember the summer we signed no one, or when we signed bishoff, or peanut head. Its more of the same from wenger I am afraid, I wont hold my breath with these mugs at the helm.
Will, the mancs won the lgu last year not Chelsea and to be honest I dont give a rats arse what others spend they have sugar daddies and good luck to them if thats how they wanna operate we cant moan about that we just have to deal with it. When we dont even spend a fraction of what we generate and earn cos our board line their pockets and our manager is to tight and to stubborn to go against his failing project youth thats when I moan and our moaning isnt about spending hundreds of millions it never has been its about spending what we have and if we have to break the bank an extra 15 or 20 million then for fuck sakes then do it to make us competative again…!
evening all, nice post rico,
don’t know about buying the league Will, be nice if he brought somone
I honestly don’t want to buy the league, there is no joy in that for me.
so its official afc.com confirmed that clichy has left the club…..
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only thing thats comes to the mind when i think of the arsenal board. (apologies i just understand the chorus which speaks to the arsenal board, not a clue what the verse says)
That is just my point WATH – what they all do is up to them, the reality is that had Wenger added two bloody good players each window, we’d still beat them…
Coadsi, good point, who else would have paid as much as citeh did for toure and lardybayor….
can you tell if clichy had posed with the new away kit video or was there in the photographs….
Evening Steve, thanks – it certainly would…
Funny how the website can move quickly when they want too….
I don’t think he was in either AF…….
our official site is pissing me of ……its just like its telling thankyou for playing for us ……
Hope wenger is bidding for a top lb as replacement or we have gibbs as replacement…….i have a feeling we surely become midtable team…….
Can’t we just sign anyone!!!!
AF – our website has always pissed me off, they are so so slow………..
And do we have any money for transfers,are we in such financial problems even now that we cant sign a player above 13million…..(forget arshavin)the activity of manure,liverpool and even the likes of newcastle,sunderland making signings..and why arent we doing anything we just had one of the worst ends of a season in history 3 wins in 15 …..please help me understand…..
Fabregas decided to leave Arsenal
Although the Spanish midfielder Cesc Fabregas go join the presentation of Arsenal on Tuesday, will not perform the skill with colleagues and will not leave for tour of Asia.
According to Brand, Fabregas came to consider not to be present at the presentation of Arsenal, but after a conversation with coach Arsene Wenger has finally accepted to be present.
However, the Spanish international pointed to Barcelona, seems adamant in her desire to leave the “Gunners”.
Fabregas, when arriving in London, will have another meeting with Wenger, so that the coach does not put more obstacles in its output.
Financially, Arsenal want around 39 million euros and Barcelona only have reached 35 million
How much for clichy? Later I speak more about Clichy…
Trouble with Arsenal fans they care to much, but don’t get the hump yet, as the players we appear to be loseing, have not been at their best, and with a bit of luck Jenkinson will play his socks off, Bartly biting at the bit waiting to run out, Ryo praying that his visa comes through Lansbury gagging for a run out, who knows hungry players waiting, we may not do to bad, and so far we must be a few quid up
Hi JM, then if they want him, they need to pay the asking price….
AF, we have plenty of money to buy players, it’s just Wenger never spends it…..
have you seen clichy’s interview at city? even the players are tired of our joke of a manager excuses. the same players that he pampers and make excuses for all the time………brilliant
JUDAS !!!
If Gibbs starts at St.james park in August we are well and truly screwed…!
What more to be screwed KT !! We are in one
I haven’t seen it Coadsi….
Hi STV, hows you?
Good Rico, Howz the going there..?
Not deeply hurt on clichy departure. But would arsene…???
Prob feeling the same as most STV, waiting for something positive…..
IG keep saying i know how you the fans feel is a load of crap. he goes with the money. gets paid works here, a better paying job comes along and he is gone.
gibbs is not a Lb he can develop in time but he is nowhere near ready but will he replace gael, no it will kill gibbs
Guys, perspective please. For most of last season and this summer many of you have been saying Clichy is crap, not good enough and gone backwards and now we have sold him, we are screwed. Should I be calling the suicide hotline?
The only thing I don’t like about it is, we have sold to one of our rivals again,
WTF… I mean Where is The Fund !! plz spend it
Why don’t we break the bank and sign Chuck Norris?
Will,
I’ll tell you why i am pissed of, it’s not about Clichy going it’s more about our club being available and ready to sanction the sale…. Quickly as well…
Yet, they cannot be arsed to get off their fat arses and sign the players we need, says it all to me, money coming in is more important that the money going out!!
We already have him KT, he’s our manager…..
Will i for one am not sad to see gael go, my problem is what will they do with the funds received from sale of players. they will either keep it in the bank and boast about it like a trophy or use it to improve denilson, almunia, eboue, diaby, rosicky, vela, b52 or scquallaci (or however its spelt) contracts. no of the two options makes any sense to me.
Clicky gone then, well i wont be getting my hanky out, Yes he has had his good spells but last year he was not good, good luck to him and i hope his form comes back, no doubt a youngster will come in and take over quite well, it may be Gibbs and it might improve his injuries, as he will now be trying to make the position his , if a centre back is purchased he may have virmin step in, only a few more to go and by the start of the season we will know who we go with, I have still got faith in Wenger to buy the players we need, if he misses the boat, this will be his last season with us of that i have no doubts.
Nor will I steve, if the italian makes him into a great LB, then well done to him I say……
Watch the 7mil disappear in a blackhole in: 3 2 1…boom!
So, how much do you guys think we have available to spend this summer?
It doesn’t matter how much we have will because Wenger won’t just spend it.Arsene shouldn’t be involved in negotiation of players,it should be Gazidis.Wenger should only identify targets.he is the reason why our deals take so long to complete. ouldn’t be involved in negotiation of players,it should be Gazidis.Wenger should only identify targets.he is the reason why our deals take so long to complete.
Evening Gooners, is everybody happy?
Where are all these bloody signings i’ve been waiting for???
Will, that was a top post on 29th June. All i’d add is no agent involvement until 18 years of age, unless from the players own family…
Thought you had some really good ideas Will…
Hey Kev, how was your week, good to see you back 🙂
Will, between 50 and 100 Million i reckon, and that latter price reflects the Cesc sale….
Kt, Gazidis is Wengers puppet….. He won’t be any different imho….
Thank you Kev, just common sense really.
KT, let’s give him a chance.
Hi Rico, traffic was manic, just how i like it hehe. Good to be back.
Will, common sense indeed, a rare commodity mate.
Gazides has a lot to prove this summer. Talk is cheap!
right on the money kt. did u hear IG at the ast meeting last month about what would happen if wenger says he wants x player and then after spending wenger ask him how much more do we have to by other players explanation. can u believe the uttter rubbish from someone in his capacity.its as is AFC is a corner shop. you are correct rico IG is wengers puppet.
as it stands the club is having problems attracting anyone over 16 years old imo
So, if the signings don’t appear, do we turn on Gazidis as well?
Traffic Kev 🙁 🙁 however, gled you are back with us now 😉
Like I said yesterday, Gazidis said that the fans will decide the future of Wenger so if AW doesn’t sort the squad out and the first ten games are s***e, the fans start shouting ‘you don’t know what you’re doing’…
What will gazidis do then??
i suspect he will do nothing!!
Gotta go training and I suspect you will all be gone by the time I get back.
Keep the faith.
If Wenger decides wages,transfer fees,contract length then what the hellis Gazidis paid to do?Wenger is like a dictator nowadays and silentstan is the perfect foil for him.
Good point Kt….
I’m starting to think that the whole board are dancing to wengers tune……
We are heading the direction of l’pool 2 years back.we’ll be lucky to make the Europa League.ng the direction of l’pool 2 years back.we’ll be lucky to make the Europa League.
Steve, you keeping going into moderation and i don’t know why 🙁 🙁
I’m done for the day guys, catch you all tomorrow….
be good, nighty night….
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you have high hopes kt i think we will be worse off the pool was 2 years ago. how can someone admit they have identified the problem and does nothing to correct it? AW is a series of contradiction, double minded and unstable in all his ways.
rico the board will always dance to wengers tune because he makes money for them and thats what they are interested in……….remember couple years ago the rumour wenger to real madrid? that would never happen.
oh and rico that rubbish iG said about wenger accountable to fans, thats just rubbish utter rubbish. IG is a lawyer and can go on talking for hours saying nothing and without answering the question. if the fans dictate then they will only listen to a certain type of fans, the glass half full type even when there is a hole in the container.
Good night Rico…
Gotta say KT the Liverpool scenario has crossed my mind a few times when thinking about where AFC are going after blowing-out last season.
Not sure that Gazides is up to the job.
Mind you it would help if we had an owner who was around the club a bit more often than 6 times a year!
I thought Gibbs was injured and did not played in Under-21 World CUp.
1 – Diaby – out of start of season.
2 – Gibbs- recovered?
3 – Armand Traore coming back?
4 – Botelho – need one more year in Spain to qualify for an EU passport.
Perhaps Wenger will not buy and may even covnert Lansbury or Miquel into a LB!!!!
He was successful in converting Lauren from midfield to RB.
Perhaps in order for Lansbury to play, he may very well convert him to left wing-back or even Frimpong as both got FLamini Engine and can run all day.
Perhaps, even picking up FLamini on a “free” and convert him to LB.
You will never know when a “Wenger” can sign Cygan, SIlvestre and Squillaci…..which “budget-class” LB he will pick up on a freebie..
Latest rumour: Denilson off to Villarreal……
At last, some positive news….!
M19 said the truth !!
oh 96 it was ! ceya al.
Morning…..
Morning Rico.
Hope we get some good news or I think we will have a lot of depressed people on here.
Hi Will
Today we could hear about Nasri, either he signs or asks for a transfer, could be doom and gloom pending….
morning peeps, caught the back of the scum this morning on the train to work…”not a good day for the gooners” headline, cesc to barca, clichy to citeh and song facing jail. Why do they get a buzz out of digging us out? It’s so fucking boring!Then I suppose if their sister paper can hack into dead girl’s mobile…..ARSEHOLES!!!!
Morning Lee,
I hate the paps!!
New Post up…..