Chelsea V Liverpool in todays FA Cup, 6th V 8th place in the Premier League but would you rather be at Wembley watching us play in the FA Cup Final, with us sitting in either of those positions in the league?
Or, would you rather be sat waiting for 12.45 UK time to arrive, knowing that a win will get us three points and with it, a big toe in the cement to secure us that 3rd place spot?
As much as I’d love us to be Wembley, I’d hate for us to be in Liverpool’s position in the league but Chelsea, well, it could still go either way for them – they could win the Champions League to secure their status in the competion next season, but they could very well lose that final and finish exactly where they are now.
That of course would mean that both of todays finalist at Wembley could be playing on Thursday nights next season….
Would you really want that?
Anyway, only one fixture involving a Premier League side matters today and that’s ours against Norwich at The Emirates…
Norwich
- Norwich have lost their last three Premier League matches, their worst run of defeats since their return to the top flight.
- The Canaries have conceded nine goals since they last scored. They haven’t scored in their last two matches – they haven’t gone three without a goal so far this season.
- Norwich have kept just two clean sheets in this season’s league, fewer than any other side in the top flight.
- Grant Holt has scored 13 Premier League goals this season, the most for an uncapped Englishman.
Norwich left-back Adam Drury is a doubt while defenders Zak Whitbread, Marc Tierney and Daniel Ayala are all ruled out of the season.
Captain Grant Holt and striker Simeon Jackson are pressing for a recall as the Canaries look to halt a run of three straight defeats.
Arsenal, well we don’t need stats or injury updates as we all know who is missing or not and yes, Diaby is out today and next weekend, sums up his season doesn’t it.
Ninety minutes, just ninety minutes to play having rested for the last week.
Surely this Arsenal team selected today can give their all for that short period of time?
Start the game as we mean to go on and fight for the right to retain our current third spot and fight for each other from the off.
No excuses about fatigue, none about the pitch, none about lacking ideas – we don’t want that and we don’t need to hear it afterwards.
We are Arsenal, we are at home and we should be beating Norwich!!
I hope Arsene Wenger and his players make sure we do…..
Finally, this could the last home fixture that we see Pat Rice sitting alongside Arsene Wenger, doesn’t he deserved to leave his seat on winning ways?
Let’s hope it’s a great day……
lost last 3 and conceded 9 since they last scored? Cue they will score to day and get something out of the game if I know our team.
and moaning all…
Morning all
900 up for Arsene Wenger and a farewell to Pat Rice, best this team makes sure that both occassions are seen through with three points….
no conceding today madgunner…..
Three points please
Top four is any day over FA or Carling cup and thursday nights
Hi wavy & Vamsi
Ditto on both
Top 4 and both cups would be good though… 😉
quiet old morning here….
Morning all,
Yep, no time to be blase today, gotta hit them where it hurts from the off, would love to be there to wave Chamakh off, very emotional, tears of joy.
😆 Micko re Chumuck…
need to get a few goals too, just in case 😉
Rico, the FA Cup is a great ocassion, add that to the reception at the Town Hall and the bus parade and it’s a couple of great days out if you win it, I’d rather be in both like Chelsea, they still have a good chance of 4th and winning the Champions League, could turn out to be a fantastic season for them while we’re still scrapping it out for the 3rd place trophy.
Having said all that, I’d still like them to fall flat on their faces.
Boo! Three points are imperative. I certainly hope our players are up for it.
Hello, Micko and rico. 🙂
Micko – I love the FA Cup & the CC tbh, but i’d hate to be there today at the expense of 3rd place, or in a position that the dippers are in…
BM will batter the Chavs and i think the dippers will beat them today, they could end up with nothing…
Boo to you agag, they better had be, otherwise sell the bloomin lot of them….
😉
How do agag, they owe it to the fans, bit weird playing on cup final day.
There would be no takers for most of that lot, rico. 😀
I hope Chelsea lose everything they’re still playing for. 🙂
Morning All,
Reading today’s post reminded me of cup final days when I was a kid and dreaming of Arsenal getting to Wembley. No doubt about it, it was a much bigger occasion then than now. However, if I had to choose between watching George Graham’s team of ’93 that won both the FA and League cup and watching the current side, for all their faults I’d pick AW’s team. Add to that Champion’s League football and it really is a no-brainer.
Re Diaby, iwould say that it’s not just typical of his season but typical of his career since that afternoon on Wearside. How many more chances can he be given?
Only RvP agag 😉
I don’t agree with the KO being an evening one and other games being played on FA Cup final day, it’s taken away the meaning of the day…
All because of television….
mind you, it is quite funny that the dipper fans can’t get public transport home, lock your cars up around the wembley area 😉
My point being they are competing for trophies, we ain’t, win the champions league and it doesn’t matter if they finish outside the top four, its in their hands.
Hi Billboy,
re Diaby, another few seasons I guess, he wouldn’t though if i had my way…
And that is what’s so sad Micko, when we did actually get a chance of one we blew it big time, that’s why this summer is so important, we won’t be competing next season either if we head into it with what we have right now.
Not even Podolski will change that….
Other sides at the top will buy big, we need to buy big just to keep up with as they are, and reading AW say that getting Diaby fit will be a big boost for next season is just laughable….
Billboy, bit harsh on Diaby, i can’t be the only one looking forward to his testimonial can I ?
Hello, Billboy. Diaby polarizes fans’ opinions quite like no other AFC player; but who knows, he may do a Robin, and keep fit for a season?? I reckon the upcoming one is his last chance.
Arghh my throat hurts. Moaning guys, when’s the game?
Hi ya agag…how are ya lil mama?
Too many ice cold beers, eh Goonie?? I am well. How are you?? Keeping out of trouble I hope. 😉
Hi goonster – its in 55 minutes….
Crikey, in 55 minutes! I ve got to get out of here. Pub here i am. See ya ladies.
Meant “pub here i come”. That’s it am outta here.
Later goonster
Gillette soccer sport are talking like we are not even playing today….
Catch ya later, Goonster. 🙂 rico, I generally don’t watch footie shows because they’re so decidedly anti-Arsenal.
Team in full:
Szczesny, Sagna, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Gibbs, Song, Ramsey, Rosicky, Gervinho, Benayoun, Van Persie.
Substitutes:
Fabianski, Santos, Djourou, Coquelin, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Park, Chamakh.
I always enjoy this one on a saturday as merse, le tiss and charlie nicholas are on it but today they brushed by our game and all they want to talk about is woy hodgson…
The whole panel on GSS baring Charlie Nik believe RvP is a gonner…..
AGAG,
I seem to remember thinking he didn’t look a bad player, but that was about 5 seasons (12 games) ago and my memory’s not that good these days. His recent cameo appearances haven’t impressed me though as he has done as much bad as he has good. Must be hard to get up to speed for him though and you could be right when you say if he remained fit for a season. Doesn’t look likely to me.
Morning all…
I’m in front of tv now.
Come on Arsenal!
Hi JM, annoyingly it’s not on iin the UK….
rico: try this
http://www.lshunter.tv/football-live-video-streaming.html
I’m watching on sport Tv- Portugal 1st channel
kick off now!
whats a gola Benny!!!! 1-0!!!
bennnnnnnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Yossssii 1-0
Great start, now get more
Thanks JM
hi devil
bollox
I knew it would happen. I could feel it in my water
you could see it coming alan…
now my link has crashed….
these links are shite. I wonder if Arsenal TV is better?
the usual lack of communication at the back 1-2
With no Theo Walcott and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain on the bench, Arsenal are short of penetration from out wide. Gervinho has done nothing but give the ball away so far.
rico says:
May 5, 2012 at 1:05 pm
you could see it coming alan…
Yes Rico. It’s called typical Arsenal over 6 years vision. You learn to expect these things
that dreadful gervinho, looking like an anorexic golliwog with that stupid hair. Sagna no better. God, who are their stylists?
here’s very little energy about this Arsenal display so far, which is surprising considering the circumstances. They have reacted badly to Norwich’s efficient approach and it has cost them.
we need better defenders. Sack Sagna
talkshite say the word is Steve Bould is returning to coach
lol Yossi dives. I hate that
we could be in 5th place by dinner time tomorrow, maybe someone needs to point this out to the players?
Arsenal’s passing simply hasn’t been good enough so far. But Norwich must take a lot of credit for this as they have worked so hard to close down and break up the home side’s play. Again, the Gunners try to fashion something but Robin van Persie is unable to control a wayward pass on the edge of the box
end of season blues we’ve come to expect. Howver, it has happened a little later this year. That’s something I guess
The referee has completely lost control of the game at the Emirates.”
Pathetic.
we’d be in trouble without RvP We need a second half like when we beat 5pur2 5-2
i can’t see the game, should norwich have had a penalty?
what happened to sagna?
lol lol lol That’s one of the worst decisions I’ve seen all season, the referee couldn’t have a clearer view.,,,,,,,,,RVP gets hurled to the ground and the ref waves play on, then TommyV takes the ball cleanly and the ref waves ayellow and a foul.
Our players are not even trying. They look lazy on and off the ball and so lacking in invention. Very angering.
From the bbc
We’ve just seen a replay of Arsene Wenger’s reaction to Norwich’s second, which involved spitting out his water and lobbing his water bottle to the ground. Pat Rice’s last home game includes receiving a minor shower from his boss.
We can be fantastic for periods, then utterly awful. It looked as though this would be the first season in ages when we finished properly, but now we look sluggish and weak
now the crowd is booing. Not nice
Sagna was stretchered off after falling to ground unchallenged while trying to control a ball. That doesn’t look good. we have had our share of injuries to full-backs this season and that is another.
best thing for us is we finish outside the top 4. Then that will force them to buy good players. Finishing just to make the champions league simply allows AW & the board to continue their ” evil ” way
it’s very dark… Norwich had more attempst then us, a clear penalty, the control of the midfield.
I hope a second half completely different
And is always the same: when arteta play, Arsenal won; when we miss him we loose or draw
Sheffield Wednesday have 37,000 attending. Could have gotten 60,000 had they the room
alanbstardmp says:
May 5, 2012 at 1:38 pm
best thing for us is we finish outside the top 4. Then that will force them to buy good players. Finishing just to make the champions league simply allows AW & the board to continue their ” evil ” way
…………..no mate. we need to finish outside Europe for that to happen.
then again the board would say ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, we did not buy anyone because we are not in European cups. no one wants to come. So we stay with what we have……….or what have remained with us.
we are lucky it’s only 2-1
I hope Podolski isn’t watching….
Should w be getting Ox and Santos on pretty sharpish??
Rico tbh I expected the OX and Santos to start….when we went on that great run the Ox started most games and since Wenger has dropped him we have been dreadful again.
This could well be the theme of this half: Arsenal camped in the Noriwch half and probing for a way through
DG They would come if the price was right. They are pros and have a price
It could be more English players could play for the Gunners if outsiders didn’t come
we are pathetic. we are predictable. we are lacking in ideas
agag
ready for a ” twangy ” one 😀
Fluck me, just got in and seen the score, we’re on a slippery slope here !
Rosicky’s freekick was the first time in I dont know many games which was a very good one.
Just the thing I need, alan. 😉 Almost can’t bear to watch this match. How do we expect to be taken seriously when we struggle v. the Mighty Norwich.
They had better score two goals. And pronto.
Devil, I agree. Grrr.
ots simple mates………..WE SIMPLY DO NOT WANT TO SCORE AND WE DO NOT WANT TO WIN.
Make that a headline tomorrow Rico.
thank God the link has crashed. I do not want to watch more of this dross.
yes agag Not a good day Gunner wise
my link crashed too and naffed my internet up….
I think RvP will go if we lose this and next week
Micko – a big one and with it we may be kissing CL footie goodbye….
30 mins to get at least two goals and not concede….
What the hell is going on?
Rico, i think missing the CL is the thing that will force the board’s hand. It may be a blessing in disguise
I for one don’t give a toss about CL
another chance goes by……
Devil, re 1.58, is it really that bad ? I’m in the dark here, last home game of the season, where’s the pride, these guys needn’t come back out onto the pitch afterwards if it carries on like this, the stadium will be empty, C’MON ARSENAL.
Its not that alan, it’s about the neighbours…..
Dock their pay, if they don’t win this.
I’m listening to the radio Micko, it sounds dire – we could have conceded a lot more….
SUBSTITUTIONArsenal – Marouane Chamakh on for Yossi Benayoun
should I laugh or cry????
Micko, I know!! Absolutely no sense of pride,
Stadium could be empty before the game ends Micko 😉
2-2 😛 😛 😛
lol the neighbours
Robiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin
Now COYRRG’S
http://www.tribehouse.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/applause.gif
And Robin saves (maybe) the day. Whew!
we scored????
yipppppeeeeeeeeeeee
hope we win now!!!!
Graham Taylor:
‘ I always find it strange when your top goal scorer goes and takes the corner’
Funny enough, so do I, why does he??
The crowd is getting into the game now!! COYGs!
That photo is funny alan….
They’re easily pleased Alan, what they gonna do if we score a winner.
Rico, it’s nothing new, how many more goals would TH14 have scored if he hadn’t taken all our corners.
12 mins left….
3-2 😛 😛 😛
Well well well
It’s so wrong though Micko, Yossi, Rosicky, Ox, Gibbs and Sagna, they can all whip a good cross in…
We need another at least….
What would we do withouth this guy!?!?
the beeb
Robin van Persie has become the third player to score 50 Premier League home goals for the club after Thierry Henry (121 goals) and Ian Wright (57 goals). He needs one more goal to equal Thierry Henry’s club record of 30 PL goals in one season. Henry netted 30 in 2003/2004. He really has been Arsenal’s shining light this campaign. He’s potentially rescued a point here – can he drag his side to victory?
Oh yes he has done it!!!!!!!!
3-2
Golden boot for RvP is a cert surely….
Who bloody got it for us !!!
RvP has now equalled Thierry Henry’s 30 goals for the season
Robinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Who else 😉
I hope it goes on and beats it alan, today….
Micko, take a guess!! Who else??
ArsenalDK says:
May 5, 2012 at 2:26 pm
What would we do withouth this guy!?!?
we’d be in more shit than Speed Gordon
Ox back defending, good man….
Rico, yes definately, for him as much as Arsenal. He deserves it
RVP is now level with Theirry Henry’s club record of 30 Premier League goals of the season. that last one could be his most important.
ADK – fighting for relegation
3-3 🙁
Crap defending yet again!
Five mins left to get a 4th….
Can’t even hold on to our lead. Good god!
oh dear!
what a miss 🙁
surely to Christ we can get shot of deadwood and find local players that are better?
lol an empty net lol
oh shit. 3-3????
bollox
See,I’m here for ten minutes….two goals.
AHHHHH!
no penalty. Would have been a hat trick for RvP and the goal he needs
4 mins added time, come on…..
oh well, looks like we’ll be praying for villa and citeh to do us a huge favour tomorrow 🙁
What a crap result in the end……
Off for an hour, i’m livid…..
Laters all….
Shouldn’t have come to this. We drop points against teams we should be dispatching with some ease… Careless and with no desire!!
that is why Robin will leave. The board, manager take him for granted, and his efforts are ruined by shite defenders
agirlagunner says:
May 5, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Dock their pay, if they don’t win this.
That’s not a bad idea in principle
There we go, ship 3 at how to Norwich, our defence and goalkeeper need to be sorted…
And we need a change, Wenger should step down and have Pep come in.
RVP is gone, I was thinking about it earlier.
Either someone like M’vila is bought or RVP will be sold, we need to play 2 up front with Podolski’s arrival (unless Wenger plays him on the left… which isn’t out of the realms of possibility), which means we have to go back to 4 in midfield, which I personally never seen happening under Wenger. Plus the players we have at the moment are not good enough to play 4 in midfield.
Ramsey was awful.
Song on the third goal gave a clear ball to Norwich when all we need is control the game and probably scored the 4th. We were very soft and porr on our defense. However, since the begginning, the midfiel not defend. We loose the midfield control on all 1st half and gave may open space in our back. On the second half, the game turn on. We put Gervinho on the left side (and sometimes on the right side…) with Gibbs and Coquelin close better and join with the central backs. Rosicky had another good game. We could score after the 3-3 but a team like Arsenal, with just a game in hand for the final of the league, can’t concede at home a goal against Norwich 5 minutes till the end, when was done the more difficult think.
Now is waiting for a good job for City and Villa.
I hope AW lays into them. Now, we have to rely on the results of other matches to see whether we’d qualify for CL. So so so silly, alan. Overpaid underperformers. Grrrr.
Afternoon all,
Don’t like to say it but its out of our hands now and we deserve it Norwich at home and we scrape a draw our team is full of losers and thats the truth for a team that are supposed to be good movers of the ball and we struggle to keep it for three passes. Czezsney had a nightmare how can a keeper not kick a ball what does he do in training, Ramsey gives the ball away all the time Gervinho is trying to outdo him what the hell is going on with Arsenal the ref made many mistakes both for and against but Van Persies must have been a dead cert. Speachless
http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/virals/120504/funny-video-arsene-wenger-fired-alan-sugar-apprentice-171366
No point blaming the players . Wenger is soley to blame . He has complied a team off losers. I suppose teams morph into their manager and this team has.
Arsenal fans can not allow this to continue .Wenger please leave now!
You lads cant stick up for ramsey after today he was shocking!! only hope now is for the yids to lose and man city to win against newcastle!
You said it right steve, its a team of losers.
Changes needed if the team isn’t motivated/good enough to see off norwich on the last home game of season whilst top 3 is in our own hands. can see city winning at st james park but think spuds will be too much for villa leaving us up sh*t creak. Is it just week minded squad or is the problem coming from complacency at the top
we bought well with Arteta, an experienced EPLer. Maybe AW will forget those from foreign leagues and get a couple more EPLers, especially defenders
Just goes to prove Without Arteta we havn’t got a clue we need a midfield playmaker and we need him before next season starts, and a definite keeper thats the only way czezsney will ever learn. world class i think a long long way to go before that happens
I felt sorry for Czezney. He has made some good saves and is generally developing into a good keeper
shef Wed 1 Wickham nil
He is very accident prone though Alan.
Hi ESP
I think he is the best we have. Maybe we need a Green Given or Cech
Far to fcuking cocky
It is so annoyed we had more that one opportunity to bring Given in, can’t understand why we didn’t.
Szczney is good and wiil get better with a top class experienced keeper pushing for his place. hopefully vertongen? to us happens then a creative mid to compete with arteta as ramsey still has alot to learn and a hell of alot of improving to do
AW has this hatred of defense, and the long ball and set pieces.
😡
right ESP We had the chance for both Given & Green
Not an easy position to play, lots of time waiting to get a touch and when you do you have to be positive, great goalkeepers are ones that dont make silly mistakes when the pressures on. I agree with you Alan he has made some great saves but that all goes out the window when he has a game like today, i have to swallow everytime he has a pass back.
Sagna has a broken leg
I’m still livid….
9 games without Arteta and we only draw and loose.
Count those points lost and sum the average of our points we have now. Interesting, no? At he same time, look at with who we have drop points.
Sagna two broken legs this season.
Out of the European Cup
Steve
being a goalkeeper would be a bastard of a job. I’d feel safer being a crocodile wrestler
Wenger has refused to talk to MOTD after being lampooned after the Stoke game HAHA What a fairy
Sagna broken his leg 🙁 🙁
He’s out of our pre-season too…..
Alan 🙂
Well, so long as his hair was not out of place?
My last comment looked like a meant vertongen as keeper, clearly dont, think given would be available if villa go down but we missed out on him before so not sure wenger fancies him, adler would be good and continue our little german revolution.
I thought the performance today was very poor. Too many problems to list but I am seeing less and less of a case for Wenger carrying on. Alan. Wind it in a bit. This post is not an invitation for your standard vitriol and requires no comment from you.
Adam what are you talking about?
Round of applause for sagna. 2 broken legs in one season is horrble hope he comes back as strong
I’d rather sell him
What has been said and done now??
Ask Adam. He is the self appointed perveyor of comment
Perhaps he’s missing the sick bay, he was on his own when he broke it, so no one involved, but at least Diaby wont be on his own.
no fun breaking a leg. He was accused of taking a dive, with a Norwich player telling him off, so maybe it wasn’t a dive unless it happened at a different time in the game
Our chances of signing the players we all hoped for have taken a severe nose dive today….
I can see us finishing 5th now, if not 6th – can’t see the totts losing tomorrow nor can i see us beating WBA next weekend….
Sad, bad times are around the corner…… 🙁
Rico, there are good players in the EPL that would still play for us. All said and done, they are pros and will play if the money is right
Newcastle are capable of a surprise
WELL THAT PERFORMANCE WAS A 3 LEGGED PACK MULE CHASING THE DANGLING CARROT.
Anger is rich in my veins right now. Speaking in farm lingo. Another season us fans tell the Arsenal STOP WRESTLING PIGS. It gets you excretionly dirty and the fecking bacon loves it.
It’s time the board/manger realizes you can’t spare the goat AND the cabbage. Spend some resources. Or the crowd demands to be fed by cannibalism. Starting in the upper echelons working their way down from the tribe heads.
Ohh, and Frimpong switch off that Twitter account if you can’t judge the impact. Our children are already overexposed to the x-rated grotesque.
I have visions of cannibals setting up the cauldron down Queensland road. . AW with an apple in his gob LOL served with truffles
So there might be alan, but AW won’t sign them…
that is the problem Rico. Arteta was a good EPL signing. Surely he can be influenced to look at a few more
Hi DG, i have the same feeling of anger too…. Can’t believe today…
not for the first time we drop points and have to wait for a result of another match
Dutch, too many headless chickens running around ! No offence rico.
Calm down, Dutch. 😉
Hello, Adam. Not a good day, is it? rico, go get yourself a bottle of Stella. 😉
Rico. Let’s face it. Our club has been in decline for years now. Poor investment in the team. Perseverance with players long after it made sense. Shocking defending, which is shorthand for no defending. Sure, we had a decent run that pulled us back up but it flattered us really. You could go through today’s team and only a very few came anywhere near the standard required. Injuries have certainly cost us but the responsibility must lie with Wenger. I see absolutely no sign that he is prepared to address the problems or that he even knows what they are. His press conference yesterday when he spoke of Vertonghen admiringly and then added ” but he is a centre- half” as if a CH was the last thing we need, made my heart sink. I am all for realism but that was ridiculous.
This is a poor league and Arsenal are an average team with a few good players and no stomach or guts for the fight. For me the club need a real shake-up not a little bit of sticking plaster. The messages Wenger sends out are not positive. Until Kroenke starts to think about building a winning side and not just one that makes up the also-rans I don’t see any reason for real optimism. Surely Usmanov must make his move soon and get a manager and a mentality that is much, much more ambitious than where we are at the moment.
you would like to think so alan, however…..
None taken Micko 😉
Micko Agag Rico
Hiya peeps. Still tarnished between a rationale outlook and retiring like Pat.
Hi agag. I am trying. Believe me.
Just got back home from the Emirates….what waste of an afternoon, song was woeful today along with several others!!
Lee. Me too. A complete bummer of a day but the thin edge of the wedge.
Usamov won’t get control. It is unlikely Stan will sell owning 67%
“end of the wedge”- apologies.
Adam indeed the thin edge of a wedge.
I feel good for Liverpool and Chelsea. One of them will raise a major trophy
Still a lot to be said for the FA cup.
Jolly good luck to them
end* apologies for Adam’s mistake. 😉
Answer the question of the post, now I prefer rather be in the FA Cup and in Champoins League Final then trying to get a clear position for Cahmpions League next season
Stonewall pen at the death too….. Saying that he should of scored!!!
If Drogba and Gerrard play well, it should be a good match
true Joaquim. An FA cup win is better than hoping to finish fourth in the eol
sorry EPL
Lee. I was looking across the line at that and it looked like a clear shove in the back. Surprised the linesman didn’t raise her flag there.
Hi Adam, Lee & all…
3 pens was it? one for them and two for us?
Difficult to tell Rico. The ball was blasted goalwards a number of times and there were shouts of handball, but then there always are. The one I saw most clearly seemed like a big push in the back as the ball flashed across goal. There was also a good case for a red card against a Norwich player for a second yellow. I was surprised at how physically heavy duty they were and they kicked the ball away after every free kick and time wasted throughout the game. It doesn’t hide the fact that we were unable to rise to the challenge though, but it didn’t help. I have never seen the ref before and don’t mind if I never see him again.
I hadn’t seen that ref before either,haven’t heard of him either… was it Sian Massey running the line?
if so its unlike her to get one wrong…
I honestly believed today would be a certain three points, maybe they did too and forgot to switch their minds on to what matters…
The commentary I received was telling. A young ref learning the game wouldn’t be able to figure out what constitutes as an offense. Elbows legalized, tackles from the blindside and such.
A Cole playing in 7th FA cup. Not bad
Song missed three or four headers from long balls pumped up by Norwich….school boy errors imho! Ramsey off for the ox and we were a different team so much more direct…..
DG – we should never have had a young inexperienced ref, not for a game which holds so much at stake….
Why didn’t wenger change it earlier Lee, thats the question and why even start Ramsey when he is so lowe in confidence is beyond me….
M’Vila wouldn’t have i bet re Song….
Lee, are you up for ethnically cleansing a pub tonight.
I bet had Theo played, Norwich would have sat back more than they did….
Did we actually have any pace going forward?
Chelsea 1 – 0
Micko,I’m in need of some alcohol therapy after witnessing that pile of shite! If I was RVP I’d fuck off ASAP! Can’t keep blaming the players…..go get Pep!!
Lee, I suppose the players merely take an opportunity given them to play for Arsenal
Sorry guys who have the faith in Arsene Wenger, mine has all but run out too…..
Tbh, if RvP doesn’t want to stay, i wouldn’t blame him, after all, when he was presented with his latest award, his manager couldn’t even be arsed to be there in support!!
a couple of the players, Song included didn’t bother going round the oval after the game
who else alan?
don’t know. talkshite only mentioned one name from some. RvP did the right thing they said
Rico that’s the FA rewarding Wenger for mouthing about an ethical entity/commission governing the authority of refs.
Besides ever since there’s a shared accountability between linesmen/-women and refs I feel it’s gone downhill with the consensus in what’s-not or what-is conditions. A ref who sees a clear foul might fall back to doubt if his colleagues don’t react. Sharing the responsibility has become status quo, ineptness leadership, crippling decisions that are taken by one person only.
the referee should be the sole arbiter and decision maker
he had to alan, he’s the captain….
maybe you are right DG, ‘take that Arsene’ …. from the FA….
Refs in the PL are in general very very poor and inconsistant…
Scousers had better inprove
We were vey lucky in the first half. Norwich had a clear a penalty. Maybe two… On the second half we had a clear penalty over RVP.
Well as long as the FA treats it as sheep dog job you will only see political correct personalities. No brass balls who can face a Dirty Harry nose-to-noses.
Song two great passes and 92 mins of being out of position i think he gave the ball away at least 17 times the good things are getting less and the bad things are getting more
now talkshite aare picking up on what a couple have said on this site, that Arteta is vital and without him we’ve had problems
Sorry folks, the verdict is the same as it has been for the last 8 years. This team cannot defend and the reason is poor coaching, not poor refereeing.
Steve is correct. We can’t always blame the ref
Hi the font and steve…
i have to agree with that Steve…
The back five are good, just they have no guidance from those who should be organising them….
and ches has it all to easy, he needs competition…
Now that Steve Bould looks like replacing Rice, I wonder if he’ll have influence on AW. I doubt it
I know dead certain if the HH family were able to upload their faces right now. They would all look like a wax Tussaud mask in front of a flamethrower.
Anyways I’m considering to pop off and see Titanic in 3D right now. To get all the tears outa me system. 😛
we have many open space between the defenders and the midfield. Look at chelsea now. They are a compact team. They prefer defend well and attack wit only af few and usually, theirs strikers make the difference.
Song was very slow and conflituous today and he had a a terrible mistale in the last goal.
If tomorrow scores not help us, we will be a loosing team next weekend.
is it bould for sure alan?
Hi RICO in all my years I have never been so disserpointed in our first half performance even after we scored they looked like a team that was playing for champs league and we looked like we would rather be at home second half was better but when your playing for a prize so rich we should be able to beat the likes of Norwich I’m going to drown my sorrys now good night
2-0
Now all the Liverpool supporters are on talkshite moaning about Dalglish HAHA
2-1
What chance do we have when AW rewards mediocrity with bumper contracts? Faith in shit players, good players played out of position or not played at all…..I’ve lost faith in AW, he’s undoing his legacy and will be remembered for all the wrong reasons!! Sad really…….
the font, i didn’t see the game, just went from Graham Taylor commentary….
Night DG, hope its better viewing 😉
Now, I am just waiting for tomorrow night.
Amen to that Lee, and it is sad to think he will be remember in such a way, especially when we look back at all the good he has done… He’s undone most of his hard work….
well, that is the board’s business model buy shite and develop it and sell at profit
FAIL!
He’s also an arrogant prick. What he said about Usamov was typical AW arrogance. He forgets his station sometimes
Carroll has made a difference since he’s been on
It’s fraudulent what gets served up over there sometimes!!
I refuse to let Arsenal get me down these days, we went into todays game needing 2 wins, something we haven’t done since late March, is anyone really surpised we didn’t get the result we needed ? Its another end of season that has petered out again, I’m not a doomer its there for everyone to see, we’re now relying on the results of 3 other teams, it smacks of desperation.
We’ve got chammug! It’s a fucking joke….
nothing changes Micko
Lee, that wasn’t you clamouring for his shirt at the end of the game was it, you know that’s a life ban on here.
AW has lost his mojo, the end of season annual capitulation is occurring yet again and he can’t do sweet FA about it!!! Why would anyone really want to join us? Apart from AW’s bumper contracts…….
That’s why so many fans are so bitter and angry – tickets are the highest price in the league, yet we watch our side look so disorganised at times…
RvP got us back in the game today only for a shambled defence to concede an equaliser….
nearly 2 all Carroll again. Good player only just disallowed
Him and gervinho had matching luminous pink boots pair of dickheads!
Another question: what’s the reason of make any replace always too late?
Andy Carool id the man of the match
But those bumper contracts are not being paid to ‘great’ players or players who deserve a bumper contract.
As you say Lee, Chumuck is a joke, but what is he earning?
The same for a few others….
No idea JM, AW needs to be more ruthless and not be afraid to change things – when a player is having an off day, get him off, not leave him on to then get a slating….
Theo against the totts is the only exception 😉
I’m still livid with the first half performance….for me Song was the stand out shite player, that fucking lobbed pass he tries every 15 seconds, fucking joke!
Just why we need M’Vila or someone very similar…
Bayern are going to batter this chelsea side….
Tedious predictable substitutions, normally too late….
You heard from AK Lee?
Wtf would M’Vila or any good player want to join this rabble of crap….rudderless ship!!
Lee says:
May 5, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Him and gervinho had matching luminous pink boots pair of dickheads!
Yes Rico, I was keeping him abreast of the score today…..sent him a player précis but not allowed to use my language in the House!!
Good question Lee….
Lee says:
May 5, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Wtf would M’Vila or any good player want to join this rabble of crap….rudderless ship!!
Money if it’s offered. That’s why. However, an EPL player or two rather than another shitty African with a freakozoid hairstyle or milksop Euro
The EPL can deliver us a few quality players
Good, was having a worry – tell you what Lee, i feel like breaking the house rules myself!
I am seriously very very angry!
Fucking hate chavs….fucking hate dippers!!!!
Di Matteo well done!!
We don’t offer the money Alan we’re a fucking feeder club…..
yes Lee true
but, if we miss out on CL, that may make them do something
God, that idiot Collymore has taken over the mic
John Terry “That is what we play for, that is what we live for….winning”
Not a lot I can add to that.
Nothing is ever easy with The Arsenal…..3rd should of been wrapped up a couple of weeks ago!! We’ll limp over the line (hopefully) sign no one and have another season like the last few! The board will get their CL money, G&T’s and fat cigars will follow……fuck em! Invest in the fucking team you arseholes!!!
Micko, JT is trailer trash base individual but one thing he is, is a winner! We haven’t got too many of them through our squad…
All I need now is the “It’s only a game” comment for my wife…..she’ll be propping up my patio!! 😉
they won’t – they will sell rvp and pocket the money to make up for 5th place….
Hate him Micko but…..
I must sleep well and hope City and Villa done their sharp job.
Me too Rico, the geezers is a banned word!!!
Lee, I’d tell you to calm down but I didn’t pay to watch that today and still haven’t seen the highlights on the box so what do i know.
And usually, we missed another key player
I’ll get you a spade Lee, tell your wife to pick her slab – you know it’s coming 😉
Micko, it started so well with the Yossi screamer…..funniest bit of the day was that Norwich have player in Holt that makes Santos look like Kate Moss!!!
Night JM….
And yes, now we also lose sagna for next weekend – get Jenks in and play Coq in the midfield….
Same here Micko, but from the wireless commentary, i’m glad i didn’t pay to watch them today, not at that price….
Who is Song’s invisible mate that he was passing too…..?
Night JM.
Rico, I couldn’t get it on Radio Kerry, I’m off out to play, catch you all tomorrow.
Off to dinner and there more football on tv.
Catch you tomorrow
Micko, I wouldn’t rush back for MOTD! Have a good one mate!!!!
Lee that’s to his alter-ego living in the 4th dimension. Or the 5th. Or the 976th. It’s hard to say at what number the Matrix ends.
Have good night Micko, JM
I’m heading off too, going to watch some crap on television, and no i don’t mean arsenal v norwich….
Lee, go and get some K1664 down you, not that you’ll feel any better after, might just numb the pain for a few hours…
Nighty all, be safe….
😆 DG – you have a good one too and anyone else i’v missed 😉
Hi mates,
back again after unwinding a bit on my car. It helped me relax and reflect.
A few weeks ago, when we won against Wolves, I was one of the first to criticize the team and their lackadaisical attitude. I got hammered for it. Now one can see that I was right. Who says that this team has shit players must live on another planet. I am sorry I do not agree.
Shit tactics and shit teamwork yes. but individually the team has not gelled together and when one nut goes missing the wheels fall off.
Imo there are the following situations which need to be arranged….
1) the team must stop taking the piss and respect the other team. Not too much respect but this shit attitude of sitting back and waiting for the other team to come at you so that they will open up needs to stop. It has happened before, it is happening now and if it is not arranged it will continue to happen. By respect I mean taking the game by the scruff of the neck and hammer them immediately in the first fifteen minutes by scoring and putting them on the backfoot and getting in their faces like they do to us. We used to put teams to the sword by the 30th minute and then used to sit back. But the damage had been done by then.
2) We have shown in games that we can win and go at teams, We did it against Milan, we did it against the scum. That shows that this team is capable. So what is missing is ATTITUDE. The team goes missing mentally and think that by just walking on the pitch the points are in the bag. They realise that come what may they will still get the pay. You know what happened in Genoa??? Well the supporters when they saw that the team was taking the piss they invaded the pitch and gave some of the players a beating. Now I am not advising that sort of attitude, but that put the players in their senses. Needless to say that Genoa got a penalty of having to play two games behind closed doors. The supporters went outside the ground and shouted that if the team lost due to a poor performance they would stop them from leaving the ground.
3) AW and the players (well some of them) are just arrogant people who see everyone beneath them. Sorry Mr AW. Being arrogant does not show others how strong you are. But admitting that you may have erred and is trying to rectify it shows that you are strong.
4) The tactics are SHIT. SHIT with BLOCK CAPITALS. Has anyone noticed that we do not do runs off the ball when we have possession and players do not cover when we loose it?? The chavs were very compact today and that is what we used to be when we were dominating. But between the defence and the DM position in the first half alone there was such a big gap that I could have put some markers and played a 4 v 6 game between my players. Sorry Mr AW but you are to blame. Not Pat Rice. Because Rice was with GG and we were tight, was with you when we had the famous five and we were tight and was with you when we had the invincibles and we were tight. I do not think that Rice who was a defender, was a double winner, was an international, eats defensive tactics, drinks defensive tactics, shits and pisses defensive tactics and dare I say when he is with his wife is hollering defensive tactics would not become a bad coach overnight. He is getting old yes and the game might be passing him by but the basics of defensive play still remain.
5) Offensive tactics and set pieces are a joke. Has anyone noticed that after so many shit set pieces in the last weeks today I managed to see a great delivery by TR07 which nearly resulted into a goal?? Where is the inventiveness, the imagination, pulling players out of the wall to shoot and playing the ball behind the defense?? Surely there is a much better way than to cross the ball into the box and hope for the best!!!!
6) At the beginning of the article Rico asked where would we like to be. In the cup final or fighting for third place?? What do the record books show……..who has won the cups or who has finished fourth?? I am sorry but considering the situation I would have preferred to win the LC and the FA cup to finishing fourth for the simple reason that winning a tin would have given the players a taste for lifting a cup and would want another. Players want medals not fourth place finishes.
Right that is off my chest.
Now where the hell is AK??? He is supposed to be home and finished from work and I miss my habib!!!!
Night Rico, the trials and tribulations of being an Arsenal supporter! The emotional roller-coaster is coming to an end, thank fuck!!!
Good night Lee. sleep well mate.
Evening coach, I whole heartedly agree with your thoughts! But with him at the helm fuck all will change it’ll be a repeat of the last few seasons!
There was some rumblings today that Bould has got Rice’s job next season, don’t know if it’s 100% true though…… Gotta be a step in the right direction?
Evening all………… Just playing tiddly winks it’s very therapeutic….!
I’m outta here too….night coach!
This is what happened today in Cologne………
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2139998/Lukas-Podolskis-Cologne-game-ends-chaos.html
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/05/article-2139998-12F0421E000005DC-841_634x381.jpg
Marvel was a good movie WATH…… Those fucking jokers this afternoon however were shite!!!!
I went to buffer my car W.A.T.H. that was very therapeutic and relaxing. seeing it shining again after restoration made up for the game dissappointment. I spent an almighty 6 to 7 months and only buffering was left. That means that this week it would take the road again. and it helped me reflect on this team we love. And believe me……….many things need to change.
Superb post Devil.
Night Rico you be Chillax. If I were you I would use Devil’s comment as the spine of a post-match report.
Night Lee. Behave no need to shackle the wife to your the patio. We are all fed up with these piss poor performers.
Glad you enjoyed Lee… Having seen most of the game we are what we are and my opinion ain’t changed from the start of the season, the same problems remain the same attitude and mentality is still there and while we have a board thats happy to sit back and do fuck all with no ambition and happy to let wenger run the ship nothing much gonna change..! Who gives wenger a slap round the head..? no one so he carries on regardless…!
Dev, you don’t need to be very clever to see things have to change mate problem, blind man can see where we lacking thing is I can’t see changes happening while the board sit with their fingers up their arses…!
I also said we were shit against Wolves by the way and was amazed how many people said how professional we were… crap if we were professional we’d of battered them 5/6/7 nil…! we reap what we sow mate sad as that is…! This situation hasn’t just appeared it’s been like this for years and very little has changed… we were a shambles at the back today.. Song was a joke and his passing in general atrocious positioning appalling and tracking back and discipline non existent and as Lee says he wasn’t the only one…!
Alan seems to think finishing 4/5/6 will mean the board will spend… dream on mate, they’ll sell RVP tell us we have lost CL money so we need to watch the pennies…! Watch for the excuses that am sure will surface very shortly from them…!
thanks DG10. Rico…….you can use anything you want. But leave the buffering outside please ma’am. 😉
DG10…..I think the players we have are good. All have played at international level and in international cups or the champs lge. We lack someone who can kick their ass and make them afraid of what might happen in the dressing room. Like Keane, or TA.
Did you know that once Perry Groves answered back to TA and Seaman pinned him to the wall and told him that no one answers the captain back??? now PG is just 5 ft 4 ins and Seaman was well over 6 ft. And TA towered over Seaman so imagine if TA retaliated. Keane would have glared at him and told him that he would see him at the training ground.
Oh and apparently the lineman/lady reckons RVP dived and thats why she didn’t flag for a penalty…. Yes dear you stupid bitch he decided to dive into the net instead of tapping in for a goal when 2 yards out with an empty goal… what a delusion demented idiot comment..!
The dressing room is calm DG… wenger doesn’t allow dis-harmony…! no shouting he doesnt agree with it…!
……..until someone pins him to the wall W.A.T.H.
WATH, it was a spineless first half performance….Arteta is a massive player for us and we miss him so much, fuck knows where we’d of finished without him. Say we do buy a couple more players, AW will play them out of position or continue persevering with his “love children”……
W.A.T.H says:
May 5, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Oh and apparently the lineman/lady reckons RVP dived and thats why she didn’t flag for a penalty…. Yes dear you stupid bitch he decided to dive into the net instead of tapping in for a goal when 2 yards out with an empty goal… what a delusion demented idiot comment..!
wtf did she say?????
SAY IT AGAIN.
Coach I agree but being paid 40k a week and up should be enough to dip into a reservoir of Dirty Motivation on your own. Constantly being told what to do is in my opinion part of the problem. If you’re a professional you should study every inch of your regular position. Creating a library of knowledge to switch your personal tactics throughout the game. The position in principal does come with personal responsibilities. Even in our own daily lives we know any 90 minutes doesn’t come with fixed strategies that preserves our wishful outcome.
Amazing that the ref doesnt see two hands push him in the back and a trip BUT lets be fair Norwich had so many chances yet again a win would of papered over the cracks…!
To true Lee, Arteta calms things down controls the midfield yet Song thinks he’s f’kin Messi and doesnt protect the back 4 no discipline what so ever and is found wanting time n time again…! Aaron was poor but for me he should not of started he is lacking confidence and form is dreadful at the moment why slaughter the boy…? Coq should of started in midfield he gives us drive and a bit of bite and tempo…! Everything Song doesnt give us yet you’ll have ppl sticking up for him cos he passed to RVP for the goal.. what about their first two where he was miles out of position and couldn’t be arsed tracking back and again not just picking on him cos he wasn’t the only one..!
Spot on DG, why do you need to be told what to do all the time… isn’t it personal pride and a will to win that should drive you on..??? We don’t have it.. something fundamentally is lacking inside that squad…!
…….I do that all the time DG10. I analyze every session and see where it needs to improve. I even encourage my players to do so regarding their performances.
I am off now mates. cu tomorrow. hope that shitty thump Newcastle and Villa edge out the scum tomorrow.
Good night all.
Nice story on Perry Groves Devil. I wish such justifiable leadership aggregation was allowed by AW.
Night Coach. Sweet dreams on taking the buffed ride for a spin through Italy’s finest mountain roads.
Coqelin was a plus for me….. But there weren’t too many today, ox for ramsey should of happened earlier! Chammug what is the point of him? Anyway I’m done, got a fcking headache & a sore throat from shouting at those fckers!!
Night WATH, relying on villa don’t fill me with too much confidence!!
Lee the best way to predict the future is to invent it yourself. Leaving your destiny to others doesn’t fall into that equation. Night mate.
Night all, we can’t rely on others, we had it in our hands and fucked it once again, we have blown it ourselves so am resigned to opening the door and the yids taking full advantage and gloating all fucking summer cos we have no balls to finish the job…!
How many Mays have we been saying that for…!
Not one penalty at home all year?
Wow.. unbelievable.
night Dg…
hello again
Half time at the football on tv
Arsenal is a case study
Just watched the match, any team that starts Arron Ramsey deserves to get nothing from a game, how does he get into that team, he has done nothing, he never tracks back, he can’t pass a ball to save his life, he can’t finish. He is the biggest waste of a squad number.
Good Morning Gooners.
Europa Cup anyone?
Our defending was shambolic.
Chezzer should have saved the first, the second was a fluke but where the hell were Song and Ramsey???
Defensive~mids they are not. No effort to get back to help the defence, leaving our back~four hopelessly exposed.
3 penalties for Arsenal and 1 pen for Norwich.
The officials were a disgrace. Cowardly even!
I cannot see us winning at West Brom even if the Scum & Geordies slip up today.
5th place looks a definate possibility, a probability.
To have snatched 5th from the jaws of 3rd is a disaster.
God knows how it’ll affect Wenger’s transfer plans this summer???
It could fcuk next season before it even begins?!
No Champions League could mean, no Vertonghen, no M’Vila, in fact no more decent signings and even, perish the thought, no Van Persie…
A right Shit Sandwich.
We could be in for a very very long hard summer.
Injuries have once again fcuked us.
That’s why i keep on banging on about not loaning out too many players and keeping a strong squad.
Not that any of our loanees could have helped today tbh.
It doesn’t look good.
Some of those players on the subs bench, tell me, what is the point of them being there???
Many of them provide absolutely nothing when they come on.
I’d rather see Ozyakup, Yennaris and/or Miquel on the bench. Can they do any worse???
Moaning all….
Charlie, that result won’t muck up Wenger transfer plans, he has probably already signed the only one he has planned….
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