Mesut Ozil off in the summer? Jammy, Fortuitous or just learning how to win?

Morning all.

The Steven Gerrard swan song has been halted, hoorah!

I’m so pleased that Liverpool were booted out of the FA Cup by Aston Villa, I really am and I’m not trying to suggest that playing Villa in the final will be an easier opposition as they won’t judging by their performance yesterday but if we are to be deprived of retaining the Cup, then I’m just glad it’s not going to be by the Dippers….

Stevie Bye Bye Bye....
Stevie Bye Bye Bye….

Jammy, fortuitous, call it what you will after Federici’s fumble. It is now not only Chelsea who can find a way to win when they are not playing well.

Those are the words of Darren Lewis in The Mirror but why is it that Arsenal fans can’t always see things the same way? I ask that after reading around the blogshere and some of the comments which either suggest the team was not playing well, Reading were just bullies, or Wenger just got things wrong, he’s always up to be criticised isn’t he?

For many years we’ve been labelled soft, don’t like it rough and all the other stuff journalists have written in order to criticise a bad result but look what’s happening now – those same journalists are being deprived of their damning Arsenal headlines and they’ve had to pick on another club. Liverpool are the flavour of the month now.

Look back on that fantastic Invinsible year, or the ‘double’ years under Arsene Wenger, not every game was perfect but those players knew how to win, or at least how not to lose and that’s what made them so good. Isn’t that what Arsenal are doing right now.

We are always going to face sides who either ‘park the bus’ or ‘get in our faces’ in order to stop us playing football, the Chavs have been doing that for years and no doubt they’ll do it again on Sunday. (strong ref please!)

Utd when they had the Neville brothers, Keane and Scholes were the same and today with Fellani. Then of course there is Stoke and a few other sides who when it comes to playing us, apply the bullish tactics in hope of an upset. That’s what they do and it often works.

Thankfully, Arsenal haven’t resorted to such tactics and long may that remain but what they have done, or certainly appear to be doing is dealing with what/who they face and overcoming it and if that carries on until the end of May, we’d have had a very good season.

So a win like Saturday isn’t always about us playing badly, it’s about how other sides do all they can within the boundaries of footballing rules, to stop us and when we overcome such tactics, just enjoy it….

Gossip:

Arsenal have been given the green light to sign Espanyol defender Hector Moreno. The 27-year-old is also wanted by Tottenham but prefers a move to the Emirates. (Metro)

Finally, there’s a story, and no doubt that’s all it is, in Spain which suggests Mourinho wants to sign Mesut Ozil in the summer. Well he can take a run and jump if it’s true. Well, unless he wants to swap him with Hazard…. 😉

Have a good Monday guys and gals…..

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scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Morning all.
It’s the old story…..we play below average and win, we are lucky.
When others do it, they are grinding out a result.
Love the media lol.

Adam
Adam
11 years ago

Morning Rico and all. We would do well not to view Arsenal through the prism of their media reputation. Football writers are a rather self important lot of dickheads, as anyone who has watched their wretchedness on The Sunday Supplement will have noticed. Ignore them. Let them write what they will. It is of no consequence.
Some are not interested how we play, only that we win. I am not of that opinion.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Rico, he must be an exception 🙂

Wavy
Wavy
11 years ago

Morning all.
Fair assessment that, Rico and, you are right.
All the angst, high blood pressure, nail biting and even rocking backwards and forwards on my favourite, (lucky) chair is now forgotten, well nearly. This morning and yesterday I was overcome by feelings of well being! Winning is absolutely everything, performance, whist important, is not the be all and end all. 1-0 to the Arsenal was always music to my ears all those years ago, still is!
The record books will show we won2-1 some will think it must have been a close game, and they would be right, but the book shows we won! And that is everything. Reading’s part in the semi final will be no more than a brief footnote in FA Cup history. Sad but true, I feel.
We are finalists, we have a chance to win again, we have a chance to increase our silver polish bill! Hurrah for that!
Now go and beat the chavs, I dare you! And finish ar least second.

Adam
Adam
11 years ago

Rico. It’s often a matter of perception. Every victory or loss always throws up questions. Just how big is the ‘bigger picture’?
Wenger has been around long enough that certain patterns have become entrenched in a typical Arsenal season. There might be reasons for them all but they remain annoyingly consistent.

A
A
11 years ago

You would pick up hazard instead of Özil? I still wonder what Özil has to do to gain the favour of the Arsenal fans. No doubt the Chelsea fans would be more grateful.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Rico, great comment.
You can only okay as well as your opponent allows, and by stating we were poor does Reading a disservice.
We weren’t great, but Reading made it very difficult for us, no doubt.
It’s another example of a game we possibly, even probably would have lost a. Few season back.
Back when we had Cesc, Song, Van Persie, Clichy, Nasri etc etc etc

Adam
Adam
11 years ago

As one who pays £3k a year for my wife and myself to attend the home games, performance is really important to me. If we had been managed by a Graham/Mourinho type these last year’s I doubt I would bother to actually go to the matches. Of course the result is important but Wenger has bought style and an attractive way of play to the PL. We are the best pure footballing team in the division and I hope it stays that way. In fact I would suggest it is the very thing that attracted players like Mesut and Alexis. Admiring our best players over the years has been great for me and if he has assembled a team that wins when not playing well then that is a positive for sure.
Watching the way the players moved the ball against Liverpool at home recently was the sort of thing that keeps me coming back.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

There’s little doubt our style attracts certain players, then there’s guys like Hazard (Rico’s favourite) who took the biggest pay packet.
🙂

Adam
Adam
11 years ago

Rico. I would have to disagree there. I think that Reading played like that because we didn’t turn up properly and not the other way round. The Arsenal that showed up at Wembley on Saturday had a completely different mindset to the one that did for Liverpool a couple of weeks ago. We can’t be that good every week but we can’t afford to be that bad too often if we want to win things. And that has been our problem for a long, long time.

Adam
Adam
11 years ago

Scott. I think you will find that Hazzard wanted to come for us as Wenger had watched him for years but, at that time, Chelsea just blew us away with the transfer fee. We literally couldn’t or wouldn’t compete.

Lee
Lee
11 years ago

Maybe a bit of both? In a Henry Kissinger kind of way….. 😉

Lee
Lee
11 years ago

“Liverpool will win the F.A Cup, Arsenal won’t make PL top 4 and Sterling’s better than Ozil”
Michael Owen 4th April 2015. I always knew he was a vertically challenged fucktard!!

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Probably right, Adam, but he’s shown himself to be right pain in the arse since.
Brilliant player though.

Canadian Gooner
Canadian Gooner
11 years ago

Good Morning to The Lady of the House and fellow Gooners in residence.

Rico – “…but if we are to be deprived of retaining the Cup, then I’m just glad it’s not going to be by the Dippers…” Amen Sister Amen! Let us fire up the old pump organ and raise our voices in song and say Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Go Villa!!

Canadian Gooner
Canadian Gooner
11 years ago

Lee – I don’t think the Mental Midget of Merseyside has heard the old adage ‘Best to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and confirm it’. Poor Michael needs a bit of sympathy as his old alma mater has gone down in flames on all fronts (Europe, BPL, League Cup and FA Cup).

Perhaps Islington Council could offer him a position as village idiot.

Canadian Gooner
Canadian Gooner
11 years ago

Scott – That’s fine as long as it only applies to their games prior to the return to Wembley. Also, no falling asleep during the game like you did in the House the other night.

potter
potter
11 years ago

I think it must be down to team preparation prior to matches. There is an attitude problem when we play so called lesser teams, the ones that we are supposed to beat easily.( Anderlecht , Monaco , The style in which we play seems to lean toward the artistic rather than the pragmatic. We shun the opportunity to put teams to the sword , rather than grind them into the dirt we play around them and over elaborate . It is very good to watch when you have a comfortable lead but not when you are only one goal up. When we play the top teams however our attitude is entirely different we play with more intensity . And then there is Chelsea and we really don’t seem to know how to play against them and the problem is that Mourinho knows how to play against us.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Potter, everyone knows how to play against us, it’s just that Joe Say signs thugs and they go about their business better than most.

Canadian Gooner
Canadian Gooner
11 years ago

Adam & Rico – I don’t disagree with anything either of you have said about our team. I think The Arsenal will continue to play free flowing attacking football, but when the opposition wont let them do that, it’s nice to know they can still grind out a result.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

CG, and I reiterate the fact when we had Cesc, RVP and the like, we couldn’t.
It’s been a long transition, but we are better than we’ve been for a long, long time.
Next season, we should take another step forward.

potter
potter
11 years ago

Better quality thugs maybe Scott , but that’s the world we live in. We know full well that there are certain referees that allow the physical and when they are appointed to our games we should react accordingly. We do suffer from a superiority complex which translates through the media to the referees that a little physicality is to be expected when lesser teams play us. These are the teams that need to be put to the sword early and often . When you allow them to stay in the game they will keep doing what they have to . Remember a dying dog is more likely to bite you than a fit one , best to put it out of it’s misery and and put it down quickly.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Potter, I wish the officials understood that it’s football and not wrestling.

Canadian Gooner
Canadian Gooner
11 years ago

Potter – Do you not think that the team is playing a more pragmatic style? They tend to be more cautious when they are up one, careful not to get caught on the counter attack rather than cavalierly charging forward to score another.

Canadian Gooner
Canadian Gooner
11 years ago

I wonder if Arsene has made up his mind about Joel Campbell or is he going to wait till after the preseason?

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/04/19/twitter-reacts-to-arsenal-loanee-joel-campbells-performance-for/

He has some tough decisions to make about some of our Young Guns and returning loanees.

potter
potter
11 years ago

We will always get injuries because there will always be Paddy Macnairs about with a sorry I got there as quick as I could. The commentary on Saturday as Cazorla’ s achillies got scraped ” Danny Murphy it wasn’t malicious Cazorla was just a bit quick for him . Whilst that is the way that the media judge things we will still suffer from it. On occasions we are more pragmatic CG but when we go into defence mode our ball retention is parlous , The method seems to be to take off the out ball and bring on another defender. I was surprised to see Coquelin come off against Reading btw but we seem to invite people on to us and lose the ability to keep the ball and play in triangles and starve the opposition of the ball. I just get frustrated by what I see as a lack of logic.

frednerk
frednerk
11 years ago

For me the performance showed a mental weakness
again……when playing away from home
that performance if it were a league game
would have cost us 2 points…..as it was a cup
game we got another 1/2 hour to win it.
Squad size and quality won it for us…Lets be fair.
I thought we dropped to deep Saturday and let
them back into it……Tactics again.
Credit to Reading for getting us on the back foot,

Villa will do the same..no doubt,
so lets hope by then the penny drops.

harvey
harvey
11 years ago

As long as arsenal win consistently I don’t really care how they do it. I think its because we play such attractive football that’s why they tend to command once we win ugly

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Frednerk, was it mental weakness or was it tactics?
I mean, if we got so much wrong, how did we win?
Gosmacked, I am lol

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Comment instead of command, Rico??

Lee
Lee
11 years ago

I don’t think it was tactics because their keeper fucked up? We just seem to underperform in certain games…Monaco,Anderlecht etc.

Canadian Gooner
Canadian Gooner
11 years ago

Potter – I see a change, but yes there is still room for improvement. I think part of the problem on Saturday was starting Debuchy (just back from injury), Gibbs (hasn’t played for a few games), Szczesny (has only played a few games since January), Ramsey (recently back from injury) and Welbeck (at CF). That is a lot of changes from the lineup that has been doing so well for us. Then the BFG goes off injured to be replaced by Gabriel, but give him his due , he did play well. Finally, Theo comes on for Le Coq.

Many of those players were not fully match fit and had not played many, if any, games with each other recently. However, we needed to get them back into the squad quickly as we near the end of the season and this was the best opportunity to do so. We have some tough games coming up and we need all hands to the pumps.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Lee, the tactics couldn’t have been too bad……we had plenty of scoring opportunities.
CG, I reckon we get took a massive risk, and would rather have seen Debuchy and Gibbs come off the bench, but yes, they do need game time.
It’s a catch 22 situation, I guess.

Adam
Adam
11 years ago

I tend to agree with Fred here. The question as to why we never showed up is interesting. I know some say that Reading played well but to me they showed commitment and some nastiness but had little quality. I can well remember the awful day when we did the same thing against Birmingham in that final a few years back too and we have done it plenty of times since. Team chemistry? It will, I imagine, be an enduring aspect of Wenger’s time. Personally, I cannot see why he didn’t play his best team on Saturday. Injuries notwithstanding, I I just don’t get that at all.

Canadian Gooner
Canadian Gooner
11 years ago

Rico – Of first team players, we currently have the following on loan;

Akpom
Campbell
Jenkinson
Martinez
Miyachi
Podolski
Sanogo

Add to that Wellington Silva.

Jenkinson will probably have his option to buy exercised, but Podolski probably wont. That is a possible eight players, not counting any of the Academy players who may be pushing at the door or aging out.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Lee, we lost v Birmingham and that’s my point…….We are a different animal nowadays.
Not quite all there yet, but still, a much better unit, and one whose winning attitude is much, much better.

Lee
Lee
11 years ago

If it isn’t broke why try and fix it? He has been guilty of shoe-horning his favourite players in to the team’s detriment, imo.

Adam
Adam
11 years ago

I watched Wellington recently on the Sky coverage of the Spanish league. He looks a player and I was impressed with how disciplined he was too. Joel Campbell was excellent yesterday as well, according to reports.

Canadian Gooner
Canadian Gooner
11 years ago

Scott – “It’s a catch 22 situation, I guess.” Yes, a calculated risk and look what happened. We lost the BFG. Has there been any information on his condition?

On top of that we still have Arteta and Wilshere to reintegrate.

Lee
Lee
11 years ago

I agree a few years ago we would of lost to Reading but we really aren’t ruthless enough in certain games….. Monaco was a fucking joke and there’s been more.

Adam
Adam
11 years ago

Brudder. Monaco was exactly as you describe. Anderlecht was disgraceful really.

Lee
Lee
11 years ago

I think sanogo will be returning to La Poste…

Canadian Gooner
Canadian Gooner
11 years ago

Lee – Maybe even as recently as last season we would have lost to Reading. I see an evolution of the playing style and tactics, but maybe more importantly, an improvement in team attiude and morale. Their work ethic is improving, in part because of the likes of Alexis.

Still plenty of room for improvement though.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Monaco was woeful.
No question.
Still, we can’t play well every week, and our shockers aren’t as regular as a few years back.
We aren’t a complete unit yet, but we are on the right track, I reckon.

Lee
Lee
11 years ago

Villa will be massively up for the final, I just hope we are!

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Rico, spot on.
I guess most of us are guilty of criticising and yet contradicting ourselves at times.

Adam
Adam
11 years ago

I have never been in favour of rotation for the sake of it myself. I understand the Debuchy thing if, as Wenger says, Bellerin has been carrying an injury.

Adam
Adam
11 years ago

There will be a couple of surprises in the summer I believe.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Adam, good, or bad??
I agree on the rotation in the Gibbs case.
Though I rate him, a week between games means Nacho is hardly being overworked at this stage.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Rico, I am as well….that’s why I posted it lol

Adam
Adam
11 years ago

Klopp in would be very interesting wouldn’t it?

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Adam, whoever our next manager is, it’s going to be interesting I reckon lol

Lee
Lee
11 years ago

Kev going to sign for us? I have him down as a box to box midfield dynamo…

Lee
Lee
11 years ago

Wenger won’t break his contract imho.
Klopp and Adam use the same coiffure, I’m led to believe.

Canadian Gooner
Canadian Gooner
11 years ago

Klopp is rumoured to interested in ManUre or the Dippers and not Arsenal or Abu Dhabi Citeh.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Didn’t like the petulance from Pep the other day, but he’d have his chance to show his worth with an improving squad, not a complete one, and in a tough, competitive league.
Dennis is still my dream choice though.

Canadian Gooner
Canadian Gooner
11 years ago

Rico – Klopp is supposed to be willing to wait for the opportunities.

With that I bid you all a Good Day.

Keep The Faith!

Lee
Lee
11 years ago

I was massively for Pep but not sure now….we’ll be title contenders with a fully fit squad, surplus players moved on and a couple of positions strengthened! COYRRG!

frednerk
frednerk
11 years ago

Like I’ve said many times before on here,
the players know the best eleven,
some find it hard to understand why this one
or that one is playing,some like to play in
the same team every game,if it’s winning.
That’s what I call a Mental thing
Tactical awareness when in play,
is something we some times don’t
prepare for.
For example Reading Saturday when one down
pushed up on our fullbacks and we dropped back
that gave them more space.
So for me scott and it’s just my
humble opinion we had a bit of both.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Fred, maybe, but at you must at least admit we are improving.
Rico, I figure the positives he’d bring would outweigh the negative of no flying…..I did hear a few months back he’s actually takend the odd flight of late, though.
I can’t remember where I read it, so obviously can’t say it was accurate, but it was definitely somewhere.

Adam
Adam
11 years ago

Martinez for me.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

I thought you hated him, Adam?
Was that all tongue in cheek, or is this 🙂

tsgh
tsgh
11 years ago

Good read Rico..

All I will say is that Jose is quaking in his boots; Jose must be wondering why AW won against one his disciples in Clarke using a copy cat tactic from the back alley school of management.

Drogba is definitely not scoring against us next weekend if that is what Jose is counting on; that old trick is definitely a donkey;

Hazard is a different topic but I can see Sc19 out playing and out thinking Cesc this time around.

Oh and Scott, you are making sense since you got back from your holiday. 😛

Rick
Rick
11 years ago

Afternoon Rico and the House.
Nice sunny day for the Nike U14 Cup Final being played at Wembly.
At H/T it is Arsenal 0 Reading 0
Its been all Arsenal but they have not taken any of the chances they have had.
Now where have I heared that before.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Ginge, I’ve been hacked lol

Rick
Rick
11 years ago

Get In!!!.
Winning at Wembly is becom’ing a habit I like.
A tap in by Alfie Mathews in extra time has given our boys a 1-0 win in the Nike Cup Final.
Beat them twice in 48hrs. Lets hope the u21’s win tonight.

Lee
Lee
11 years ago

Ultracrepidarians everywhere….. 😉

frednerk
frednerk
11 years ago

Yes Scott
agree we have improved.

Rick
Rick
11 years ago

Fred have you spoken to Harry lately.?
Cannot understand why he has not been given pro contract yet

potter
potter
11 years ago

Costa and Gabriel sent off could be interesting. Seems it’s Michael Oliver..for Sunday , we will see how he got on with Mr Riley after his last performance.

Vegas goon
Vegas goon
11 years ago

Looks like I’m late to the party. Have to agree with the consensus that winning is winning no matter how it happens. Looks like we are finney starting to get some luck along with all the other positives.

I think it’s funny Re: the media.
They keep pushing the bar further back. First it was “no trophies” now it’s ” FA cup isn’t good enough”

It was good enough for SAF and if Brenda won it this year we’d never hear the end…

Vegas goon
Vegas goon
11 years ago

*finally

Vegas goon
Vegas goon
11 years ago

Hopefully. 🙂

Vegas goon
Vegas goon
11 years ago

Lol yea but we’ve been saying that for the past few summers. I will admit though…it seems like something has finally changed. Wenger sees the light at the end? Stadiums finally paid off? I don’t know but it just feels like this summer he’s gonna get those pieces but I don’t want to get my hopes up too high. :/

Rick
Rick
11 years ago

Any chance of our U21’s gaining promotion went out the window tonight when they lost 3-2
There were 6 change’s from the last weeks team I will leave it at that.

BT62 Gooner
BT62 Gooner
11 years ago

Rick, just read the match report, Illev sent of early on, can’t really see them gaining promotion.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Morning all.
Yes, we are two, maybe three players off having a squad that will be the dominant force in the PL, and even make a full scale attack on the CL.
Stability has played it’s part, no question , and obviously the fact we have finally arrived at the stage where players like Ozil and Sanchez are affordable has helped,
Things are falling into place over the last few years, and the results show that.
There’s still another step to take, but I reckon we will do it.

Vegas goon
Vegas goon
11 years ago

I hope so too Scott. I want to be optomistic about our chances…but do you think Wenger will really spend?

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Hi Vegas, he has the last two seasons, so I can’t see why not.
I’m pretty confident he will and add the final pieces to the puzzle.

Lee
Lee
11 years ago

Scott I think we’ve already signed Schneiderlin…. just a hunch, and there will be more to follow. I presume a lot hinges on whether or not Theo signs a new contract.
Morning all btw

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Hiya Lee.
I’m with on Schneiderlin…..there’s too much been said about it.
Theo frees up decent money, no question.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Cech would be a terrific acquisition.
Still, Ospina is not a bad first choice keeper 🙂

tsgh
tsgh
11 years ago

Cech will be fab…; not sure he is the same keeper though since he has not played much recently.
I think Ospina is good; when he was at Nice Dev and Emma use to talk about him a lot…
My only issue with Ospina is his level of distribution at his age… and that he never seem close to saving any penalty. lol

Morning Scott, Rico and all…