Morning all.
I just want to ask one question today and that is, should retrospective action be taken when VAR make such monumental mistakes as they did during yesterday’s Manchester derby?
It’s all very well having the panels come to their conclusion after a game or Howard Webb coming out with his usual old c**p but what good does it do as far as the game goes. Man Utd were denied a point which regardless of what you and I might think of them, they should have had. When I talk about retrospective active, I really do mean for the absolutely clear and obvious errors and not just random subjective calls during a game.
Offside is one law in the game which in my opinion can be proved beyond doubt by watching a replay. Everyone watching the derby yesterday afternoon could see that Man City’s goal should never have been allowed. The commentators knew, you and I knew and replays proved that at least one City player was offside including the goal scorer.
Results matter to every club in this league and not just the one you and I support. The two points City gained yesterday could in May, decide who wins the league and who qualifies for Europe. Yes, the latter is important because of the financial benefits European football awards to a club, especially the Champions League.
So, in your opinion, should football, in amongst all their petty law changes which don’t appear to be implemented across every game in the Premier League, is it not high time to retrospectively chalk off goals which have been proved to be offside? I think so…
Catch up in the comments.
They can whistle, we need him. 😜
New post up now.
Athletic Madrid and Juventus are interested in taking Madueke on loan.
Deep breaths Geoff, hold on and then breathe out, it relaxes the soul….
I know that some of our senior squad players really need some minutes and the opportunity to perform but at the same time I also hope that Arteta picks a few youngsters for this evening’s cup tie…
So, Donohue and his assistant Antrobus have been dropped for one match, how piss weak, this offside was not a 50/50 decision it was a clear offside and there for it should have been at least a minimum of 3 weeks suspension (first time) and the second time they stuff up it they should be suspended for 3 weeks plus a fined the amount of that match payment.
The head of VAR should also be fined for failing to make sure there ref now what they are doing.
I understand that the ref’s on the field can make a mistake due to the pace of the game, but VAR has no excuse it’s been around long enough to iron out any creases.
Sorry my little rant over for now
I have always said we should get rid of the offside rule full stop, as no team should be penalized just because their player got to the ball first and this would allow the following
(1) stop all confusion as to a player being offside (2) during a corner kick or a possible shot at goal just outside the box the ref only has to watch for players fouling each other (3) it would speed up the game by not waiting for VAR to check every goal for offside.
City head coach Enzo Maresca said: “Erling was onside. The fourth official told me this; he said it was only a question of the action in the centre [Fernandez]. But I think it was completely clear that it was offside.”
So even Maresca admits it was offside ,Can we expect a Wenger style replay ?
Well surprise , surprise Donahue has been suspended. But City still have the points.
Good (antipodean) morning, all. If we are talking sauce, my wife’s home made home grown tomato sauce is totally saucesome.
Rico, it is a thought, but I cannot see it ever being implemented. I guess the only way it could be considered is if (like in Rugby League) the ref signals that the goal in question is “on report” and the remit might include chalking the goal off after the review.
But it would be a major issue for a number of reasons. Tactical considerations, fan experience and potential corruption being the main ones.
A potential preference would be for the “Captains challenge” to be trialled. As in cricket and rugby league, each team has the right to challenge a decision which VAR then forensically study to give a ruling. Each team has up to two challenges during a match and could be limited to penalty kick decisions, offsides where a goal is scored and red card incidents.
Personally, I’d leave things as they are, and work to improve the performance of VAR, keeping in mind the VAR teams work under time constraints and huge pressure. And they are, believe it or not, human.
If he’s in charge of retail operations, I hope he can at least run a whelk stall.😉
This appointment comes less than twenty-four hours after the club warned that there were going to be reductions in the number of club employees in order to cut running costs.
Arsenal announce Omar Shaikh has been appointed as Arsenal’s first ever Chief Revenue Officer. As part of this appointment, Omar will join our Executive Team and take on an expanded remit across the club’s revenue-generating functions, including partnerships, ventures, commercial venue and retail operations.
Omar Shaikh now there’s a name to conjure with. Apparently he is our new financial guru whose role is to build the financial base of the club.
Plus, there needs to be consequences for all these failings. Not just a slap on the wrist and move on. Such huge mistakes in the real world are dealt with quite differently.
Only the goals which are clearly offside Cicero.
Always red for me Kev and I don’t usually care who makes it… 😂
Good morning all.
The trouble is Rico, where do you draw the line, no pun intended, deduct the goal in a one nil win and and you change the result, which seems fair on the face of it. But what about in a two goal win, for instance? Only the goal difference is affected. So you have a two tier system.
The only sensible option is to scrap Var all together, while the whole thing is rebuilt from the start and the all parties are schooled in the laws and protocols. Refs, managers, players, pundits, commentators and the media hacks. The majority of the fans probably would understand the intricacies of the laws nor would they need to if they were confident that the officials new what they were doing.
Well, after all the furore, no more City games for Mr Donahue I’d imagine
Always brown Rico and HP if poss…
Yes Potter, I can see it now, A.I. powered VAR, sponsored by Etihad, that should work…
https://dailycannon.com/2026/09/var-city-fernandez-goal-spurs-arsenal/
So the VAR guy is allegedly a Totts fan…
I thought AI was meant to be deciding offsides anyway, isn’t that what was used at the WC in the summer?
I posted this as the new thread went up
Trouble now is the way that PGMOL interpret the rules . I read recently that they spent twice the time that Germany does to analyse VAR decisions.
One can’t help feeling that they see themselves as omnipotent and more important than the game itself.
Maybe it’s case for artificial intelligence , at least it won’t be as biased but I suppose it would be open to more corruption than we already have.
On the idea of retrospective goal cancellations the PGMOL would love it , they could all sit round a table and change results as they saw fit. Or at least how they would have been told to do.