Good Enough, Old Enough – Midfield/Defensive Problems Could Be Solved From Within…..

There comes a time when younger players need to be given a chance, especially when they are performing well for either the Arsenal under 21’s or their country at their respected age group and right now we have one or two who are doing just that.

Chuba Akpom is scoring for fun for both Arsenal and the England under 20 side, Hector Bellerin is looking solid for the Arsenal reserves side and Isaac Hayden is showing that he’s already a very composed defender both for club and country.

This weekend we face Hull City and we are without Calum Chambers as he’s notched up so many bookings, he’s now banned for one game. Surely Bellerin will be given another chance to prove he has what it takes to perform at this level?

Then we have Lauren Koscielny struggling with an Achilles injury which could present Isaac Hayden with his chance to play alongside Per Mertesacker.

I haven’t seen a great deal of Hayden but from what I have seen he looks a composed and calm player, a strong guy who isn’t easily brushed off the ball and one who knows how to tackle and he certainly didn’t look out of his comfort zone during the league cup fixture against Southampton just a few weeks ago and I’d much prefer to see him play than Wenger opting for a 5′ 10″ Nacho Monreal!

Of course it would be far better to have a big strong experienced centre back ready to step in the squad like most other clubs have, but we haven’t. What we do have is a 19 year old, 6′ 2″ Arsenal man, ready to take his chance and just as Calum Chambers has proved, if you are good enough, you are old enough.

Arsene Wenger has described Hayden as being a player whose key assets are concentration, intelligence and strength. Equally comfortable at centre-back or in central-midfield, whilst having also previously featured at right-back and as a play maker.

That kind of opens up a whole new debate really, if Wenger believes Hayden is as good in midfield as he is in defence, which in my opinion is pretty darn good, why on earth has he not been given a chance to play there?

After all, it’s not like we are seriously lacking a defensive midfielder is it??

Isaac Hayden could be the solution to a couple of problems we have on the pitch, if only he’d be given the chance……

Arsene Wenger signed a 19 year old Calum Chambers and has relied on him since the start of the season. Well in my opinion, it’s about time he started looking at a few players who are already in the Arsenal Academy and have been for a number of years, especially the English ones as it’s been a long time since Jack Wilshere burst onto the scene…

That’s it for this weekend, more internationals today so let’s hope and pray for no more injuries…..

Have a good day folks…

 

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Wath
Wath
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11 years ago

You nicked my post 😛

Morning……………….

Wath
Wath
Admin
11 years ago

I was taking my time…. It is Sunday after all and a nice lay in is of course order of the day 😀

As we have previously discussed think Hayden needs to play and be given a chance for sure. Seems assured and very level headed and if he isn’t given a chance then what’s the point in him being there. As you say Chambers has been trusted to play so lets give Hayden the chance to shine and show us what he’s got. We could def do with his physical presence that’s for sure.

Wath
Wath
Admin
11 years ago

Suppose will be quiet on here this morning all those car “freaks” will be out polishing and waxing……………….

Wath
Wath
Admin
11 years ago

There are many many things “He” does Rico that beggar belief and have no rational explanation..!

Wath
Wath
Admin
11 years ago

I know we don’t see what goes on day in day out but from the outside his treatment of Campbell is shocking and the boy looks useful yet he’s just basically being ignored.

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
11 years ago

morning all
However, we need another central/full back.
Next Saturday: Bellerin or Coquelin on the right?
I think Kos will be fit for Saturday. Anyway Haydyn could go to the bench. Besides, we are out of the League Cup.
This weekend we play: Asprina; Debuchy Kos , Chambers;Arteta-Ramsey-Diaby-Ozil- Walcott, Giroud and Gnaby..
Well, this is our injury and suspend team for this weekend..I think I didn’t miss anyone…

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
11 years ago

agree rico.

Adam
Adam
11 years ago

Morning Rico and all. As long as we don’t sign any big strong players we’ll be ok.
Excellent topical post Rico.

TizTeezy
TizTeezy
11 years ago

Lol@Joaquim. Asprina? Maybe Aspirin would be perfect. Goodmorning HH

TizTeezy
TizTeezy
11 years ago

I wish Wilshere was ‘big’ and ‘huge’. It’d def. be problem solved.

Hell Raising Devil
Hell Raising Devil
11 years ago

Good Morning mumblies and grumblies.

Hayden and Bellerin and Akpom are far superior to what Denilson was. Yet he got his chance over and over again. Same with Bendy.

Sometimes I really enjoy that injuries occur after the window closes…..it will give those young ones the chance to play. Especially if AW is forced to play them.

If those three above manage to play well and prove themselves it will give us three positions from inside.

Wavy
Wavy
11 years ago

I shall mostly be washing and polishing after Theo has won the Russian GP!

Re the younger members of the club, I wonder if Wenger goes and watches them when they arrive at 16 and then ignores them until they are 23 and are past it! Many people form an opinion on first showing and never alter their view thus they never get their pick? Perhaps that’s why there were wholesale changes this summer at youth level. Brady and co just couldn’t persuade the pensioner that some of the kids were worth a shot? Or perhaps as they were having so little effect Wenger decided to shake the thing up? But, in any event , bar Bellerin none of the others have even had a peep at showing their ability at first team level. Surely this has to change and very soon too.
We have run out of old team alternatives, they are all injured, or playing on carrying injuries. Time to give youth a chance, I think.

Morning all. Nice one Rico, you’ve set me off again!

Wavy
Wavy
11 years ago

He seems to symbolise the decline of the German nation! Cutting corners to gain advantage only to find you have been stuffed for your carelessness! Such a shame

binjgunner
binjgunner
11 years ago

here we go again depending on rookies

Hell Raising Devil
Hell Raising Devil
11 years ago

that is the one million dollar question? will they get a chance?

Rich
Rich
11 years ago

Been following youth teams again as much as I can for a couple of years now and it seems to me we’ve a lot of talent at the moment. First I was able to see them live (tv) was the next gen semi against Chelsea a couple of seasons back. Five players stood out for us and were as good as anything Chelsea had despite them just shading us.

They were Hayden, Akpom, Olsson, Bellerin and Gnabry. Gnabry was maybe the best of the lot, but not by much, and everything in their development since suggests this remains the case. So, if Gnabry was indeed good enough, and if the others are at that level, yep, we need to fight hard to give them a proper chance at the club.

Olsson may well have jeopardised his chances with his impatience to play, but Bellerin, Hayden and Akpom are at the point where there is little more they can do- in almost every u21 appearance they perform very well (with Akpom as a striker it’s more visible-6 in 4- but the other two are at that level also)

Hayden is presumably here till Jan at least, and might just get a chance if/when the crisis strikes, Akpom may well go on loan beforehand (think rules allow that). Either way, I’m twitchy and dying to see those two in particular get a chance (no offence to foreign lads). Funnily enough my attention turned to the youths when watching the first team was most painful. In particular I was hoping to see some high quality English players who possesed things the first team lacked and was unlikely to buy in. Hayden and Akpom stuck out immediately- a fast, powerful goalscorer, a tough tackling physical dm/cb. That’s what I’m talking about. And if Hayden were to get in and excel at dm, that would actually be one in the evidence column against Wenger’s work of recent years (i.e ‘jeez, who’d have thought we could do with a proper dm, eh!?’)

The incredible thing is that there are another 3 or 4 who strike me as being at or near that level one year down- Zelalem, Maitland-Niles (fast, excellent technically, and looks like he may grow to be a bit of a beast), Crowley, Tafari Moore- with the year below that also looking extremely promising. The bitch is that the u21 league is a pile of crap in terms of playing time, with 2,3 or even 4 weeks between games. If they played most weeks and if Akpom had kept scoring as he was, he’d probably have added a few more braces and perhaps a 3 or a 4, and the pressure would be huge to give him some time in first team.

In the current climate, however, there are three ways youngsters get a chance at a big club : crisis; when you’re in superb form and can play them at safe times; or if they’re once-in-a-decade freaks like Rooney.

So we’re almost certainly looking at crises before they get their chances. I just hope that every fan who really wants to see them get a chance, accepts the inherent short-term risks that come with it. Many certainly won’t. They only find it acceptable when it comes off immediately. Which is a recipe/climate for never giving them a chance.

Just take a look at Jose’s record. I think he gave the Newcastle defender (name’s gone) his start at Inter… and that is it in terms of risking a player at the start of his career in top flight football. While for Wenger it’s Ramsay (17, no pl experience), Gibbs, Chesny, Fabregas, Walcott(17, no pl) , Ox (17, no pl), Wilshere, Anelka, right back to Monaco days where he brought through Thuram, Petit and a young African snapped up from Cameroonian football called George Weah.

Traditionally, he will do it, but I think the current climate is the worst ever for it (and that’s without being sensitive to fans attitudes these days, which if you did, you’d never risk it).

Wavy
Wavy
11 years ago

Theo, Theo, Theo!!!! What a player!

Adam
Adam
11 years ago

Personally I think Arsenal will find it very difficult to bring young players through. The way the top echelons of the PL is shaping up I am not convinced we have the overall team strength that will allow that luxury. I look at Belllerin being thrown in against Dortmund and hope that isn’t the blueprint. Allowing the progression through youth teams to the first team seems to me to require really top class organisation and that is one thing that we just don’t have.

Rich
Rich
11 years ago

Cheers Rico. Thing I left out of my post (was pushing my luck as was) is that we’ve never had as many experienced pro’s about in midfield/wide positions as now. This is a problem as far as youngsters getting a chance goes. A similar situation at Chelsea and City means that all their talk and investment in youth is never likely to amount to anything when you have subs on the bench who cost plenty in transfers, are well established players, and may be earing 60-100+ grand per week.

Chelsea have particularly good youth team but they also have, typically, Willian, Mikel, Remy,Filip Luis,etc on the bench- massive wages, top players, itching for game time.

Our bench might not be that good, but on a typical week there’ll be Pod, Ox, Rosicky, Flamini, Monreal, etc. Without injuries, we have a serious issue about giving these experienced players enough game time to keep them just about happy enough with the situation, if that’s our wish (with Campbell there seems no wish, but he’s probably just lower down that hierarchy of people he’s worried about keeping involved). Even with a mass of injuries, nothing has yet opened up for all the promising strikers/ midfielders.

My take is that we need one, probably two , bigger big players, and we’d do well to move on 3-5 of the current big players in next 3-12 months. Pod, Rosicky, Flamini. Arteta, Campbell, even Cazorla is in the frame.

Stronger first team, slightly smaller pool of established stars (after a period of intense competition, i.e any of the six I named could prove themselves as ones who want to/should remain) outside it, and room for youngsters to play. As it stands, without an injury crisis and with a determination to keep established players happy, youngsters won’t get a look in.

potter
potter
11 years ago

Rich has already told us the problem and it’s an old hobby horse of mine . We need a proper reserve league for these kids to cut their teeth in. Playing them against other kids doesn’t help them progress. Kevin Campbell , Arturo Lupoli , Nickie Bentner were all shit hot as kids but when it came to the first team were over shadowed although Campbell did well as a back up to Wrighty and Smith . In the main last year Hayden could have been marking players like Kevin Phillips old but full of trickery , he would have learned more in half an hour than he will in a season of under 21 matches.

allezkev
allezkev
11 years ago

Is Wath out of bed yet?

Lazy sod….

Rick
Rick
11 years ago

Afternoon Rico and the House.
Excellent post Rico. He is good enough and if
Bellerine and Chambers are old enough so is Hayden.
For the past year Ginge Kev and myself have been saying that he was good enough and should be given the chance and I have the feeling that when the time is right he will get it.
The U 21 have not played since 19Sept and as he is now too old to play for the U19 so the only games he has played has been for the England U20 team (3 games all won).
On that score I completly agree with Potter ( spot on mate) we need a res league like the London cmbination. Untill then players the same age of Akpom Bellerine and Hayden
will not get the games they deserve.
Saying this I believe Hayden is the best young defender we have and would not be out of place in the first team.
By the way another great win for Theo’s twin

allezkev
allezkev
11 years ago

Afternoon Rico….
Afternoon All..,

Good post….

sukky
sukky
11 years ago

Re-watching our season review (2013/2014).We showed something we’ve lack for some many years…PASSION and TEAM CHEMISTRY.I really love that team.And what a great great guy Oliver giroud is,full of passion,never stop trying even when he’s losing sitters,his workrate and attitude is second to none.Wenger should have build on that great team.

potter
potter
11 years ago

Looks like Welbeck has joined the physio room club now.

allezkev
allezkev
11 years ago

Sorry Rico, busy today…

I thought that Hayden had a very impressive game against Southampton in the League Cup.
If he started against Hull, it wouldn’t worry me at all.
But if Kosielny doesn’t make it, I reckon that Wenger will go with Monreal.
Wenger is quite a conservative, safety first manager…

Coquelin at right-back seems the obvious choice to me with Chambers suspended…

Night All

Rich
Rich
11 years ago

Cheers, Rico. Damn good to know those comments were appreciated. I’m lousy at keeping it short when talking about Arsenal, and in general people seem to keep it short and snappy on comments boards.

Not sure I should be encouraged to talk/think even more about the club (it’s getting out of hand the last couple of years) , mind, but it is quite tempting to finally get my day in the sun above the commenting line, so maybe I’ll send something to the Highbury House email address in near future.

Ordered a Wenger biography yest, so maybe there’ll be something worth talking about from that.

Anyway, will look forward to next post. I’m sure there’ll be a few things to say about Arsenal lads for England*. Very decent I thought from Wilshere. If Rooney were Henry/ Rvp in their prime , Jack would’ve had four or five top quality assists this week.

*Someone at the club needs to work with Ox on heading this week. Looked like he closed his eyes on replay of Wednesday’s missed chance, and I’m pretty sure he did the same again tonight. Wouldn’t have believed a pro could be making the same mistake (taking eye off ball) this amateur did until he was in late twenties, but I reckon he is. Bould, have a word!

sukky
sukky
11 years ago

Campell had a great world cup and see how he’s treated by Wenger,and you expect Wenger to play youth who are unproven?

Rick
Rick
11 years ago

Yes Sukky I do

potter
potter
11 years ago

The Campbell thing is a conundrum , he showed in the world cup that he has something worth pursuing but for whatever reason is not getting the chance to play. I just hope that nothing has put Wenger’s nose out of place and that’s the reason he is not featuring.

Adam
Adam
11 years ago

Morning Rico and all. Wet and windy old morning in London.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Morning all.
Great post!!
Sorry for the delay, did my ankle and was knocked out by some pretty handy painkillers last night!
The post raised some great issues…..not one of us would date try to explain why some players get an abundance of chances while others rust away in the shadows.
Lansbury is merely one is like to have seen have a good go, and there are plenty of others I’ve hears mentioned but not seen okay.
I think Sanogo has something, but if I’m right, he’s still at least a season or two away from being good enough, if ever, so I can’t defend the choice to persevere with him, especially when we see a guy who has done well at the top level, Joel Campbell, who can’t get a look in.
Why?
I’m gobsmacked.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Henri had heart.
Loved him!!!

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Rico, imagine him standing by when Ozil and Santi had the crap kicked out of them v Chelski???
No way!

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

And sometimes, that’s more than enough, imo.

scottfromoz
scottfromoz
11 years ago

Yeah, should be growling and snarling at the opposition!!!!

sukky
sukky
11 years ago

Goodmorning house,seems welbeck is injured.