Forest v Arsenal – who scores wins…

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Morning guys.

What on earth went on at the G-tec stadium yesterday? Brentford were 1-0 up, looking good for a win against Liverpool and then they shot themselves in the proverbial foot when Yehor Yarmoliuk head butted Jeremy Jacquet and was shown a straight red card. Earlier, Chelsea beat Everton 2-0 and Man City scraped past Ipswich 3-2 at The Etihad. In the late game, Villa defeated Newcastle 1-0. Man City are the only club yet to drop points.

Anyway, it’s our turn today as we face Nottingham Forest away from home. It’s hard to know what Forest are really about this season. They held Liverpool to a draw at Anfield, were beaten at home by Leeds and Coventry, defeated Villa in the Black Country and drew at home against Totts. Their last fixture ended in a 3-1 defeat to Crystal Palace at Selhurst Park but by all accounts, they had enough opportunities to win the game comfortably. 24 to be precise.

Make to bones about it, this has banana skin written all over it. We have won just one of the last six fixtures at Forest. The last two have seen us come away from The City Ground with a point in each and zero goals.

Last season was with a fully fit and healthy squad too, something we won’t have today with William Saliba, Piero Hincapie, Christos Tzolis and possibly Martin Zubimendi ruled out through injury albeit Mikel Arteta hopes the latter might be fit enough to make the squad.

For now though, I suspect our starting midfield will consist of Declan Rice, Myles Lewis-Skelly, or Bruno Guimaraes. Our fixture against Bayern Munich on Wednesday might be in Arteta’s mind although I hope not as this game is the most important right now. Bayern can wait.

Talking Tactics from Arsenal’s Adrian Clarke :

The table can sometimes be misleading, and I believe that’s the case with Forest, whose performances have warranted more than their five points. In Glasner’s trademark 3-4-2-1 shape they have been very creative, manufacturing the division’s second-highest number of big chances. Their big issue has been poor finishing, converting only 4.72% of their attempts into goals.

The three players who make them tick attacking-wise are Gibbs-White, Dan Ndoye and James McAtee. We know all about Gibbs-White’s talent, but Swiss international Ndoye has been extremely positive of late, running at defenders and firing off shots. In central midfield, ex-Manchester City youngster McAtee has shown a lovely eye for a pass, creating 11 chances in open play.

Defensively, Glasner’s men are strong. They were unusually flaky at Crystal Palace, but generally keep opponents at arm’s length, facing the joint-second-fewest shots (64), only one behind us. Centre-back Murillo is their standout defender, but the industry of new holding midfielder Xaver Schlager should not be underestimated either.

Forest are not possession-heavy or especially focused on pressing, but Glasner’s teams are usually superbly organised and clear in their strategies. They do attack at speed, and that is something we must be wary of, so this is going to be a stern examination.

Well, if Forest don’t press high, aren’t particularly focused on possession and are quick on the break whilst being defensively strong, one can only assume they are going to set out to be compact at the back and try to hit us on the break.

Morgan Gibbs-White is a very good player in my opinion, a dangerous player who can hurt the best of teams. He’s creative, his passing is excellent and never gives up. Like I said, he’s a dangerous player who I’d love to one day see in an Arsenal shirt. Oliver Glasner suggested he’s a doubt for today’s game but I’m pretty sure he’ll be fit. Nikola Milenkovic is also a doubt while both Igor Jesus and Nicolo Savona are ruled out through injury.

I guess the assumption ahead of this game is that Kai Havertz will in all likelihood start although I’d rather see Viktor Gyokeres, with Bukayo Saka on the right and Noni Madueke on the left. Perhaps the latter deserves another start there after his much improved performance against Leeds Utd. We need to see another display like that should he start. Defensively, Riccardo Calafiori is more than likely to start after having a bit of a breather in midweek but it’s a toss up for who partners Gabriel between Cristhian Mosquera or Ezri Konsa for who partners him. Ben White gets my nod for right back purely because Jurrien Timber needs handling with kid gloves until he’s 100%. Mind you, White isn’t far behind him when it comes to that.

As said, The City Ground has not favoured us in the past but the past is irrelevant today. We are the defending champions so I hope we go there and play like champions. Respect Forest because as Arteta said during his press conference, their league position doesn’t truly reflect how they been playing. For them, goals have been hard to come and we of all fans know how that feels.

Hopefully we won’t have that feeling later today.

Catch up in the comments.

 

 

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Merlin
Merlin
22 days ago

Saka has been off his game since tail end of last season and continues into new season. He is so predictable with teams closing him down so easily. After his 2024/25 torn hamstring, he simply is no more that explosive and quick winger of 2022/23 & 2023/24.
When Arteta jokingly made that comments that “he expected Saka to score 2/3 goals per game”, I see Arteta as playing Saka as an inside forward with his lethal shooting.

The frustration is Odegaard & Co are creating zero chance for Saka to shoot.
Havertz is dropping too deep as midfielder instead of leading the line in the box.

Gyokeres?
Improves a lot with his mobility and holding up play, eagerly pressing ball carriers and won a few.
I see Gyokeres looking bad is simply that when he is cleared between defenders in channels ready to receive a pass, none came.
Arteta should look at his “chance creating” dept and resolve this issue quickly.

Every team is following the Brighton Template with high pressing to stop Arsenal from getting into their passing rhythm. A major issue now should we leak a goal.

Goodnight all.

Aussie Geoff
Aussie Geoff
22 days ago

Good evening, Rico and all. Just watched replay, glad we won but getting a slight bit worried about the goal difference between us and city.

only a guess, we sold Trossard and Martinelli as Arteta and co were convinced that they had a replacement for them, only to see it fail.

Kev get well,

Cicero
Cicero
23 days ago

The Daily Mail, the oldest tabloid in Britain, and that’s all that can be said about it. 😉

allezkev
allezkev
23 days ago

Yes Rico, I think that Brighton now have to be seen as a realistic threat to us this season, nobody plays a low block against them, well not yet, so they’re banging in plenty of goals a bit like us in 2022/23 when we caught everyone out!

Potter/Cicero, I think that Madueke’s shot was going in anyway. 🤪

allezkev
allezkev
23 days ago

A few repetitive comments on here today

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
23 days ago

Without whishing to sound repetitive – given that Arsenal lost Martinelli,Trossard,Jesus and Nwaneri, and replaced them only with Tzolis (one wonders if they actually expected him to play every single match)- it becomes clear that opposing teams sit deep not because of the intensity of Arsenal’s attacking play, but fot tactical and strategic reasons.
And there is a significant distinction here: it exposes the ineffectiveness of one side while creating an opportunity for the other.

potter
potter
23 days ago

Were you looking for a tongue in cheek emoji . Cicero

Stuart Noel Angus
Stuart Noel Angus
23 days ago

A hard watch in the early hours, but that is another three points on the road, at some tough places, too. Easy on the eye can wait… COYG. We love you Arsenal, we do.

Cicero
Cicero
23 days ago

Only a very slight deflection Potter, I’m sure it would have gone in anyway. 😉

potter
potter
23 days ago

not sure that the shot was on target

Cicero
Cicero
23 days ago

Well there were only three shots on target in the whole game, and two of them weren’t ours, Merlin.

Cicero
Cicero
23 days ago

Your post headline was truly prophetic Rico. 👌

Merlin
Merlin
23 days ago

Was it the only shot on target resulting in a goal?

Cicero
Cicero
23 days ago

Clean sheet one goal three points, what not to like?

AndrewH1313
AndrewH1313
23 days ago

If you shoot, you might score! Some end product, what he needs.

potter
potter
23 days ago

amazing what happens if you shoot

Cicero
Cicero
23 days ago

A goal? Well well well that is a surprise. Madueke too.

potter
potter
23 days ago

Getting what we deserve……not much

Cicero
Cicero
23 days ago

No matter who we take off or who we put on the pattern is always the same. Rice misses a sitter.

AndrewH1313
AndrewH1313
23 days ago

3 subs. Good can’t carry on like this. Only thing positive is Madueke winning corners.

Cicero
Cicero
23 days ago

Odegaard needs to get higher up the pitch.

AndrewH1313
AndrewH1313
23 days ago

This is a very average Forest team and without MGW. We can’t even score set pieces anymore. Passes forward don’t even seem to be on the same wavelength

Cicero
Cicero
23 days ago

Bloody Havertz is no defender either. Hand ball on the edge of our area. Pillock!

potter
potter
23 days ago

why did we sell bothvTrossard andMartinelli

AndrewH1313
AndrewH1313
23 days ago

Afternoon, agree with all. We have skillful players who just are not taking a chance. Safety safely. Expected so much more this year, playing with a freedom. But we just seem so static. Take a chance, let’s see Dowman on right and move Saka to left.

Cicero
Cicero
23 days ago

I don’t know what Arteta can do at half-time, I don’t suppose he knows either.Eze has done nothing. Havertz has hardly had a sniff in the box.

I would even bring Madueke on for Eze and Gyokeres for Havertz.

potter
potter
23 days ago

not doing bad for 9 men , Eze isn’t a winger and Havertz a forward.
But then we all knew that

Cicero
Cicero
23 days ago

Anything happened? Think I may have dozed off. Yyyaaaawwwnn.

potter
potter
23 days ago

Like watching paint dry

Joaquim Moreira
Joaquim Moreira
23 days ago

Hi Gunners!
A very difficult game…

Cicero
Cicero
23 days ago

All set in front of the telly, mug of tea and the biscuit tin.

Cicero
Cicero
23 days ago

Raya, White, Konsa, Gabriel, Calafiori, Rice, Odegaard, Bruno, Havertz, Saka, Eze.

allezkev
allezkev
23 days ago

Are Brighton & Hove Albion the new Leicester City and are they a realistic threat in the title race?

allezkev
allezkev
23 days ago

A bit of the old neuroscience can’t do any harm, can it?

Maybe I should give it a try when I’m planting out my onions?

allezkev
allezkev
23 days ago

I need someone to help me think differently in and out of my cab.

allezkev
allezkev
23 days ago

That’s very comforting Cicero, thanks for that me o’ china plate. 🥴

My lovely daughter-in-law is dropping me off some lemons and Lemsips to ease me through the day. 🙂

Cicero
Cicero
23 days ago

Good morning all.

Interesting post Rico, thanks.

Could be a side effect of the jab Kev, you’ll be clear by Christmas, no worries. 😉

Madueke? I’d put him on the extreme left….of the bench. Saka on the left wing and Dowman on the right, just to mix it up a bit.

In a week when we announced up to sixty job losses, it seems strange that we have taken a “creativity guru” on board. German Castanos is the author of several books and is an “innovation” expert with a passion for neuroscience . His role is to challenge players to think differently both on and off the pitch. Gobbledygook? Or good sense? I leave it to you to decide. 🤔

Limey
Limey
23 days ago

Morning Rico/all
Nice preview. I’ve no idea what to expect,other than another hard game,despite Forests struggles. Also I hear that Gibbs – White is doubtful.
I agree about the game in Munich,sheer adrenaline will kick in for that one,it’s the games either side where tiredness is an issue,I hope we make use of the substitutions. Looking at the Champions league fixtures,nearly all teams involved play Saturday. Man United,Real Madrid play today and maybe a couple of others but all seem to be at home Wednesday.
I wonder how many times the commentators mention the Brighton result,and Man Citys start – it’s funny when they struggle against a smaller team,they are just getting the job done and when Arsenal do it it’s a different story. It drives me mad.

allezkev
allezkev
23 days ago

Yeah, Calafiori today and Myles vs Bayern, Gyokeres vs Bayern might be interesting, otherwise Kai for an hour or so in both and then throw on Viktor. Forest will play a low block and Bayern will go for it especially at home.

allezkev
allezkev
23 days ago

Morning Rico, good post.

I’ve got the lurgy so I hope the boys can cheer me up, bloody had the flu jab this week but obviously this isn’t flu… 🤧

Stuart Noel Angus
Stuart Noel Angus
23 days ago

Evening, Rico. Thanks for the post. I’m feeling bullish about this one, but then again my surname is Angus. I’m calling a 2-0 victory. See you in the early hours…

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