Well if Arsene Wenger doesn’t give either Vito Mannone of Wojiech Szczesny a chance to prove themselves by the turn of the year it seems we could lose both. Mannone has followed in the footsteps of Szczesny and said that he is the answer to all our goal-keeping troubles.
Last year I played nine games and with me, Arsenal never lost. They brought Almunia back and then Fabianski started in the game at Chelsea, I get annoyed when I don’t play, it’s not as if the other two do that well.
Of course he is right, neither Fabianski or Almunia have done that well again this season and yes, my view is that both he and Szczesny should have had a chance to prove themselves but leaving isn’t the answer. They are both young and should wait for their chance and unless Wenger Buys a keeper in January, I don’t think that chance will be too long in coming.
Mannone is seeking a loan, Szczesny however is free to talk to other clubs in January! Both could go out on loan but should that happen they will get the bug of playing every week and I doubt we will see either again in the shirt of our club…
Paddy reckons ‘his club’ could be in with a shout a winning the Premier League this season. When I say ‘his club’ of course I mean us, The Arsenal. Thats the club he loves not the side he plays for now which he says a full of ‘huge individuals’, he says we have more stability and could quite easily lift the trophy come May!
This last bit pleases me, not the fact that it has been written but finally a player who does not play for us, has had his say about the horror tackles in the game of football.
Danny Murphy has had this to say about things and he holds their high profile managers responsible.
Stoke, Blackburn and Wolves, you can say they’re doing what they can to win the game. But the fact is that the managers are sending the players out so pumped up that inevitably there are going to be problems.
You can look at the players and blame them. But every team has a captain and a manager who is in charge. The thing I think people miss is that it is the managers who dictate what the players do and how they behave.
If you have a manager in control of his team, who doesn’t allow these things to go on, you have a more disciplined team.”
Fulham under Roy Hodgson were top of the Fair Play League because he wouldn’t accept talking back to the referee or stupid tackles. You don’t have these problems with Roy. Dario Gradi at Crewe when I started was the same.
Murphy, 33, also believes some players are giving no thought to the consequences of their actions.
The pace some of the players are going into tackles is ridiculous. There are no brains in the players doing that. I don’t believe they are going out to break the legs of their opponents but there’s no logic or intelligence in what they are doing. If you’re going in at a certain pace and don’t get it right you are going to hurt someone.
Players need to be more intelligent, especially the ones who are doing it repeatedly. They are culpable in that. I think there’s an argument for retrospective punishments. Referees can’t always get it right.
It would help if there was a board of ex-professionals who know what was a bad tackle or whether a decision was right or wrong. It’s not that difficult and there’s no cost issue these days.
Then the people who deserve to get punished will get punished. It’s not just fouls, I think we should punish cheating, simulation… a lot of things.
I wonder how Mick McCarthy, Fat Sam and Tony Pulis will feel after reading the Newspapers this morning, it’s them who Murphy names and shames. This time they cannot accuse ‘Whinging Wenger’ can they?
Have a good one all…..
It took a ‘dirty’ foreigner in De Jong to do what the English players have been doing for years to bring this whole debate up.
“It would help if there was a board of ex-professionals who know what was a bad tackle or whether a decision was right or wrong.” Problem is, so many of them have been jumping on the “it’s a man’s game” bandwagon that you couldn’t find a sufficient number to make up a panel. And if you could, you couldn’t trust them to sit the right way on a toilet let alone police bad tackles. Collymore, Wright and a myriad of other ex-professionals have proven themselves to be utter tools willing to take the media shilling and simply parrot the media line du jour. This is partly out of their own avarice and partly because they have never had an independent and original thought in their lives. And if they did, it would die from the loneliness.
Talksh*t are now jumping on the bandwagon as if it was their idea all along. I’d swear it was only a couple of weeks ago they were raging against AW and his namby pamby “I dont think players should get their legs broken” comments.
Morning all
Murphy speaking could be the best thing, fed up with the paps/media saying its just whinging old wenger…
something has too happen…
catch up a bit later ….
Hi Rico,
Hope all is well. 🙂
Morning Guys,
I think we all share the same feelings about this.
I wrote a Post on here a short while ago highlighting these bandit managers, who try to deflect criticism of horror tackles back onto Arsene.
And you are absolutely right Clock, when you say it would be impossible to get a panel of ex-footballers to adjudicate. Collymore disgusts me anyway and I simply won’t listen to anything that woman beating thug has to say!
Very well said Danny Murphy. Just watch your back when Fulham play Stoke, Blackburn or Wolves.
Hi RA, all good thanks, busy busy, but from tomorrow will be about a bit more 🙂
Baz, thats a real sad reality, those managers/clubs won’t like what he said one bit… Even though he is spot-on…
Fulham lost two players in a space of two weeks and he knows what he is talking about. Just liek Arsene.
Wonder how many other players might now speak out. . . . Shows the bully boy managers that it’s not just Wenger who know’s what tossers they are..! Well done indeed Mr Murphy..!
jena, spot-on, it always seemed to be our boss highlighting it and Sky Sports used to just push it aside as him being a moaner. Now, its their headline story and making out they are the big i-am for highlighting it….
Hi WATH, i think this will finally open the floodgates and put the FA on the spot… Indeed, well done Danny Boy….
Mornin Rico, as usual the media are full of shit, Wengers says it and he’s moaning a player says it and they make headlines out of it, Murphy just saying what we have all seen and said for years while the FA have done fuck all about it for years..!
Same old same old WATH, cheeses me off, now wait for Fergie, Harry, Hodgson and all follow Murphy…
But, it was needed from someone other than Arsene, its been a long time coming…
We’ll see how after years of saying Arsene is moaning they will all of a sudden say Murphy is right..? two faced fuckers the lot of em…………!
You should have a board with let us say 5 ex professionals and 5 ex-referees and 1 doctor to examing those tackles.
Agree that is annoying that after years of condemning Wenger for moaning the media are suddenly on this debate because of injuries to players of other clubs and comments from a player of another club. But at least the debate is out there now. More importantly Sky and the media cannot or will not twist Murphy’s words in the manner they twisted Wenger’s
Morning WATH,
I tend to say two toed tossers, but your descriptive powers are much better than mine. 🙂
morning,
Hopefully, as more and more people other than AW keep voicing their concerns on this issue of bad tackling, the FA might finally take things seriously and do something about it…….Hopefully!
Have a great Friday y’all, got a busy one today 🙁
Adios
Hello and g’bye, T-Buzz. 🙂
Have a good one y’self.
Ra your just a lot more polite than I am 😀
I am pleased that Murphy has cited other dirty tackles than the one’s on our players, or we would hear that Arsene put him up to it.
But the papers are mentioning this and that as bad examples, but none that I have seen mention injured Arsenal players either.
And what about Robinson and that creep Shawcross? There are a lot of them out there, and none play for us.
I shall try my best , R.A, wish you the same! 🙂
Only because I go back and edit out my first jottings, WATH! 🙂
Catch up soon T-Buzz, have a good and a fab w/e 🙂
Sky are showing quite a few nasty ones, including the one on Diaby that Robinson got away with….
But yes, I’m glad he has highlighted the same teams/managers we all talk about. Credit to McCarthy though, he said Henry totally deserved his red card etc etc, none of this crap that comes from FS and Pulis….
Have a good weekend TB and enjoy the sun and hot weather……………. 😀 oh well wishful thinking it seems…!.
Say it as it is RA u no u wanna 😛
I’m off for a bit all, catch up later this afternoon… have a good day..
Ok off you go layabout…………….
Have fun…!
I will thanks WATH 😉
Rattler and a Pasty for lunch 🙂
Piglet………………
WATH, can’t argue with you there, but ……
From and early age I went to school in the UK, USA and Germany, and had to learn to look after myself.
Problem is, I found that hurting someone physically or verbally, is easily done but v. hard to undo. I am sometimes tempted when I lose my cool, but I try not to do so. 🙂
If they deserve to be on the receiving end then such is life worry about that afterwards always look after number 1 RA…!
WATH, 🙂
morning all. well done to murphy – he will line up against some of these sides this season, so his commenting in the manner he did took some courage.
Hi Oliver,
Yep Danny has def not put himself in the firing line but fair play 2 him and for having the guts to say it how it is..!
morning wath. i do not think that he necessarily made him comments in direct support of arsene – as has been suggested in some quarters – nevertheless, they are most welcome…
Agree Oliver, def not in support of AW BUT his comments do support exactly what AW has been saying and now the nedia are all falling over themselves…!
And I see Shawcross is out there defending Henry and De Jong – surprise, surprise. He should have Danny Murphy’s words stuffed up his arse (nearer to his brain).
dkg, wouldn’t have to stuff those words very far to find his brain that’s for sure, amazing how all these dirty players are all now on the defensive without actually being named…! Guilt says it all…!
Boo, have I missed anything 🙂
dk, Shawcross is a knob, excuse my language…..
Who’s a piglet WATH 😉
Huff Huff 🙁 No-one around
Boo! I’m never around when you guys are… Hope you’re having a fantastic time, rico. Finally, someone talks sense about thuggery.
Thanks agag, I am, our friends have now gone off on their hols so we have a luxury home for ten days 🙂
Hope all is well with you agag….
All quiet so i’m gone… catch you all tomorrow and I’m back to annoy you all :P:
stay safe peeps….
Morning, new post up
Morning all, just don’t ask that dickhead Redknap junior to sit on the panel and judge the tackles, he is so far up him self, I’m surprised his eyes don’t bulge.
All we ever get is ” when I played for Liverpool ” guess he means when I spent all those years on the treatment table watching the others play.
Lets keep the momentum up on this it will all be worth it, if it saves one more decent player getting a leg broken on the orders of the 3 musketeers.