Just over a year ago……
Am I angry with Robin Van Persie?!
Do I hate and detest him??!!
Will I look forward to the visit of Man Utd, anticipating an afternoon of Robin baiting???
Well, no to all three of the above, because my over-riding feeling towards our ex-captain is one of sadness and disappointment.
Disappointment because I thought that Robin was a man of substance. A loyal man, a bigger man, a man who realised what he owed to Arsenal Football Club and in particular to Arsene Wenger.
A man who was above the petty money-grabbing behaviour of the likes of Samir Nasri, Mathieu Flamini, Manu Adebayor and Gael Clichy…
A man who would buck the trend.
A man who would stand by the club that had stood by him during some of his darker days.
A man who knew the value of honour.
Disappointment, as I believed that Robin was his ‘own man’…
A man who would not allow himself to be manipulated by his Dutch Agent and English representative Darren Dein…
I mistakenly believed that he was a man who could think for himself.
But Robin, you are none of the above!
You are a man with no substance.
You are a man of straw…
All the badge kissing and the heart thumping was simply playing to the gallery. They were the public exhibitions of a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Therefore, you have truly found the perfect stage for those values, at the Theatre of Bullshit…
A match made in…. Darren Dein’s office!
So Robin, in Manchester United, are you joining a club on the up or a club descending deep into the throes of terminal decline?
Robin, you may temporarily slow or halt that decline but I smell the smell of a rotting carcass coming out of Old Trafford.
I’ve seen it all before Robin down the other end of the East Lancs Road.
The decline is hardly noticeable at first but then it gathers momentum and before you know it you will beΒ sharing the abyss with Liverpool.
Robin, enjoy the ride, and of course the money…
In the meantime Gooners, let’s sing along:
Some things in life are bad
They can really make you mad
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When youβre chewing on lifeβs gristle
Donβt grumble, give a whistle
And thisβll help things turn out for the bestβ¦
Andβ¦always look on the bright side of lifeβ¦
Always look on the light side of lifeβ¦
If life seems jolly rotten
Thereβs something youβve forgotten
And thatβs to laugh and smile and dance and sing.
When youβre feeling in the dumps
Donβt be silly chumps
Just purse your lips and whistle β thatβs the thing.
Andβ¦always look on the bright side of lifeβ¦
Always look on the light side of lifeβ¦
For life is quite absurd
And deathβs the final word
You must always face the curtain with a bow.
Forget about your sin β give the audience a grin
Enjoy it β itβs your last chance anyhow.
So always look on the bright side of death
Just before you draw your terminal breath
Lifeβs a piece of shit
When you look at it
Lifeβs a laugh and deathβs a joke, itβs true.
Youβll see itβs all a show
Keep βem laughing as you go
Just remember that the last laugh is on you.
And always look on the bright side of lifeβ¦
Always look on the right side of lifeβ¦
(Come on guys, cheer up!)
Always look on the bright side of lifeβ¦
Always look on the bright side of lifeβ¦
(Worse things happen at sea, you know.)
Always look on the bright side of lifeβ¦
(I mean β what have you got to lose?)
(You know, you come from nothing β youβre going back to nothing.
What have you lost? Nothing!)
Always look on the right side of lifeβ¦
Now Arsene, don’t be tight, spend the money which Old Red Nose will be giving you and then you can gloat about how Manchester United made us a stronger side and not the other way around….
Written by AllezkevΒ
Morning all….
Good post AK…
Onwards and upwards!!!
1st to comment, winks
Good morning!
In football, the fact is that today, tomorrow is a lie!
Great post AK.
Who was last seasons #10 again??
Give his shirt to Podolski…..a man who knocked back twice the money to play for our club.
Yes,players playing for the love of the game still do exist,so let’s get behind our new man,our new #10,our new top goalscorer!!
Funny……I’m much,much less pissed off than I thought I’d be over RVP selling out,just disappointed he wasn’t the man we thought he was,and I’m not Robinson Crusoe in feeling that way.
Still,our new #10 will have something RVP never did……Cazorla!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ifecx4real…..what comment???
Morning all,
Great post AK, I felt like that when I heard the news, but we all knew it was coming, just a matter of time…
Now the club can look to the future with players who want to be at arsenal and hopefully add one or two more to them and we’ll have a good season..
Wengo aint going to spend that money he has said we already got his replacements π
Life goes on…we will always remain arsenal
Well said. This sums up my feelings exactly. But is this now typical of the majority attitude in football? A sentiment of “ME, ME, ME” seems to permeate the game from FIFA right though to shareholders, agents being a particularly odious breed. Tic birds on the arsehole of football.
Matty,I don’t reckon he needs to.
Spend it on other positions,but we’re fine up front.
We loose two players yesterday: RVP and Sallim
Dunno i would love to see another striker but someone of his calibre to rub it in there faces…. Hate Manure fans my office is full of them and you could imagine the reception i got this morning!!
:-(“””
Matty – he hasn’t said that, he has just said that Pod and Giroud have been bought in to cover our loss.
We still have Chamakh, park and Nik to sell on, as they go, I honestly believe we will sign another attacking player.
Lee – thanks for the Spike input this morning π
And Kt for the RvP picture…
JM..who??
Matty….when he’s sitting in the stands injured,you can laugh right back at them.
Who is Sallim JM??
Cheers Scott you know how to bring up a guys spirit!!!
Well i hope Giggs now buggers up his wife!
Also you think there is any truth in this hernandez story?
I do matty and I really hope we get him, but not on loan.
You rate him that highly ? I would much prefer MIrallas.. If a loan was to occur that would just show how low the club really is.
Great post Allez
GM Groovers,
Song next, Barca in town today
heard Song has being a naughty boy that’s why Wenger is willing to let him go.
Looks like Mirallas is going to Everton matty..
emma, any idea what he’s been up to??
Matty,UTD fans think Hernandez rumours have legs.
Hes a good kid,and will only improve.
Apparently RVP’s wife is seeking revenge,so wanted either UTD or Chelsea!!!
Scott, missed being d 1st to comment, who is sallim? and rico wondering if your working towards a mobile version of your blog
Oh,and my mum,who has no real care for football,reckons we’ve made the signing of the decade……who is that tall,gorgeous hunk of a man…..GIROUD!!!!!
Giggs over Terry then …. Arrggg π
Emma,was Song being naughty with Boucha π
rico – Heard he has being throwing tatrums in training. The only difference b/w RVP and song is he hasn’t come up with the infamous statement. He will be going for 15-18million hopefully. Another good piece of biz
The plot thickens…..
They do call him Big Al!!
Allezkev — Your on fire mate! Two days of shear eloquence and genius. Little more needs to said. Keep up the good work.
As soon as RvP’s contract with ManUre is signed, sealed and delivered; I wont waste any more thought or time on him. My only concern now is how the club invests his transfer fees.
When he comes to the Emirates don’t boo him, it will only rile him and may encourage him to try harder to score against us to silence the crowd. Let him be met with a deafening and dignified silence. Let us show him the Arsenal club, fans and team have class.
I4R – mobile version, what on earth is that??
Morning, sign Theo up or ship him out, sign Arshavin up to a two year extension and play him behind the striker where he and Cazorla can do serious damage and buy Felliani from Everton with the R$VP money and maybe Dempsey with the Song cash?
Morning all,
Great post. It really sums up the way a lot of us feel this morning. I’ve got no plans to burn the guys jersey, partially because I never desired to own one, but I feel DEEPLY disappointed that our loyalty was not repaid. Leaving for manure will disgust some but $ity would have been about the same for me; either way he followed the cash. I’m sure these next few days will be spent grieving but we’ve got to move on and get behind the current squad.
Hopefully we can get song’s situation resolved soon and add to the squad because my hopeless optimism still makes me think we’d have an outside shot this year as things stand. We have a lot to look forward to and with a cdm and additional striker we’ll definitely challenge.
Rico, a version for phone, cos most times it isn’t queit easy reading and navigating tru every1’s comment while using my phone.
Well said CG… Don’t waste any more breath on the man, he’s history…
As long as he passes his medical today of course and Fergie offers him the right wages…
Nice post Kev. Morning Rico, Emma, Scott…
I got in late from a meal out with friends last night and went trawling through the web-news of what we all knew would happen. Arsenal wouldn’t have the balls to lose out on a cool Β£25M, now Β£24M.
However, one thing I read was that Van Persie tried doiing the “U-turn” post Cazorla but got knocked back by either Wenger or the club. I don’t know where I read it as I’d downed a bottle of red and half a dozen lagers. But it was a reputable source.
If true, you have to admire the clubs stance.
Anyway, life goes on. Our biggest transfer to improve the team would to get rid of Song.
I may stay clear of the curry house tonight as I’ll have a gloating Bengali Man Utd loving owner chucking smirks at me…
Cg – I’m all for your no booing idea, wish it were actually possible, not that he doesn’t deserve it
Pushing his way out maybe emma, oh well, like you say, let him naff off for the right price too….
STG, give the curry house a wide berth mate!! Well for a few days….
B1727, I’m over him already π
Morning Syg – would love to know if that U-turn story is true, it would make a lot of difference to the way fans see RvP. If true, it shows his statement was very true…
He who laughs last Syg, he who laughs last……..
SYG, even oops!!!
That Rico, has to go down as one of your best ever, if not, the best, piece of sub-editing ever….
Great song lyrics by Lee…..
And the picture, i saw it yesterday, it really is so poignant…
Morning You Gooners….
I4R – i wouldn’t know where to begin to set that up….
boomergooner1727 — I know it would be hard to institute or enforce. There will always be a minority who will want to boo; but if the majority could co-operate on silence I think even the ignorant minority would fall into place.
Check your email AK…
This is the link to the story that RVP was interested in staying http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19179833
Rico,if it’s true,it changes nothing imo.
He put shit on our club when he released that statement,and there was no coming back,I believe.
it should never,ever have been released to the public.
It was the death knell to his Arsenal career,whether he wanted it that way or not.
He mightn’t have realised that a the time,but I’ll bet Dennis Dein did.
Morning Kev – I only added a picture and Spike π π
morning all….good post kev…..Rotten Vile Poison has finally left …a part of me feels distraught and the other part feels good…we have capable players now…the CAZ scored yeterday..he is a fantastic buy…
AK’s right,Rico.
I read his first draft,and it was just crap π
Good read.after a good almost half a day of sleep i’ve woken up feeling much better.f**k him,we are Arsenal.we are due a win at Old Trafford and next season is the best time for it with him on the pitch.
U can ask fellow bloggers, or google it “how to setup a mobile version for your blog”
Canuck, Emma, cheers,:-)
Matty what was that about Giggs buggering???
Tell me more… π
Hiya Lee mate I didn’t see you there.
Rico – I will try and find it – I know I certainly read it !!!!
I am not a fan of Myles Palmer as he comes across as a closet-Man Utd fan who thrives on his pedantic self-praise .. But a stopped clock is right twice in 24 hours.
Cop this.
http://www.arsenalnewsreview.co.uk/index.php/news/2597/30/Arsenal-stronger-without-RVP-Song-if-Wenger-buys-experience
It is what I have been saying all pre-season.
The best transfer business we as a club can do is get shut of the losers, the deadwood …
If song goes then that should mean that the club is clear of the Darren Dein infestation that has damaged us, which would be a good thing,
As for R$VP U turn changing how fans view him i don’t see it he publicly insulted the club the manager and the players and then when the rest of the world were not bowled over by his magnificence and didn’t beat a path to his door he backtracked pure and simple.
I don’t hate him and I am thankful for his contribution whilst he played, some of those goals were simply awesome the volleys against Charlton, Liverpool and Everton however he is the past and not worth worrying about.
Lets move forward and get players who want to be at the club in and support them and leave the past where it should be.
But is that factual emma, that’s what we don’t know for sure….
Scott, it would make a difference in my eyes but I also understand if others don’t feel the same…
And if my Man Utd hating cousin Ray, is having a peek today.
Chill out cuz, we’re gonna do fine this season….
Rico, Eric Idle not Spike….
why is everyone against him taking the money? This is what you get with the internationalisation of the game. Kick the foreigners out and return it to tribalism, otherwise you have mercenaries
Makes me sick to think he said those things about the time he FINALLY began to pay dividends for Arsenal. He wasn’t worth Β£70k a week when he made these pandering remarks, but now that he is finally a “superstar” loyalty isn’t as meaningful as Β£200+k a week. It took him 18 months to stab Arsene and Arsenal in the back. Apparently he just can’t handle fame. He”d be great in politics
Nicely put Vernat. Very nicely put.
I never wanted Anelka to go, but a couple of days later we had both Henry and Suker…
Life as an Arsenal fan goes on ..
Well said Vernat!
Lol. Top lad Alan. Straight from the script of Alan B’stard MP
Why because he stated it wasn’t about the money!
SYG, morning mate, ruby for me tonight….
No smirking Bengali would keep me away from my curry… π
Well said Allezkev, this sums it all up beautifully and I am already whistling – wasn’t Eric Idle the best bit of the Olympic closing ceremony !
Today’s news was the moment I was dreading once upon a time and now it is here I feel a sense of great relief and for several reasons
1) I know it was only Cologne, but the Arsenal side that played in the first half with all our new signings looked streets ahead of the one in the second when listless RVP came on and Song continually gave the ball away – I would like to see another Β£20m for him in the Arsenal coffers
2) Will United get an injury free season out of him? At the ripe old age of 29 I somehow doubt it.
3) Will he and Rooney gel or just get in each others way.
4) RVP was not great in his last few games for us and frankly terrible for Holland in the Euros. Is he a player in decline ?
5) United did not need another striker; they have little creativity in midfield and without the return of Scholes would have had a really poor season. RVP would have been far better off staying and playing with Cazorla (thank goodness he is ours now) lining up the chances for him
I just hope that Arsene spends some of the loot. I am still worried about the goalkeeper situation. I am not convinced Szczesny is absolutely ready for the PL and the back ups of Mannone & Fabianski are scary.
Anyway – all together now Gooners ‘Always look on the bright side of life (whistle, whistle,) …………………………
It seems to me we would’ve kept him if we wanted but i feel that statement was the last straw.it seems to me Wenger has been preparing for this since May and according to BBC Rvp was told he could leave after Cologne match in which AW saw lots of positives.AW pushed him out for that statement;he crossed a line and the boss was ruthless.maybe the glasses are a good omen.
Is Theo stalling on a contract extension? Does anyone has an idea what is going on. Arsenal should set a deadline otherwise we lose out at the end. Transfer market
Nasri photo Lee…… π π π
Hi bonex, vernat
π Scott, that’s funny….
Oops Lee π
Digger… π
Rico saved my bacon….
Good Kt, was a tad concerned for your ticker last night…
Thanks Syg, seen it now..
Well said vernat, good riddance to darren dein …
Rico, can you forward that email to SYG and Scotty please?
Morning Bondex, cheers.
KT, that’s better mate, we have a great squad of players.
we’re gonna have a great season…
That’s why RIP wanted to stay!
Arsenal ace Thomas Vermaelen could not hide his disappointment after it was confirmed Robin van Persie is set to join Manchester United.
The Belgian stopper admits that it is a big disappointment to lose his skipper on the eve of the new season.
But Vermaelen remains confident Arsenal have a squad in place to win silverware next season.
“I am disappointed because I wanted him to stay at the club,” he told Sky Sports News HD.
“He was fantastic for us in the last year, scored lots of goals and I am disappointed he is going, but we have to focus on the next season with Arsenal. We have to fight and I am confident we have a squad to win something.”
Vermaelen admits it is a good thing that Van Persie’s future has been resolved prior to the start of the Premier League season this weekend.
“We start Saturday and this is all clear now, Robin is leaving and we have to move on,” he said.
Are Song and Walcott the last of the AFC players represented by Darren Dein?
Vermaelen: “Ultimately it might be a good choice for him. It is what he wanted. I’m confident that we have enough qualities to cover.”
Vermaelen on RvP: “This is a surprise for me. A shock, I’m very disappointed. I’d have liked him to stay, he was very important for us.”
Does anyone here think the money will be reinvested?
emma — Whether RvP was offered a new contract or not, at the end of season meeting with Wenger and Gazidis, is immaterial. I’m sure RvP made that unnecessary after he had expressed his views in the meeting. After that meeting he posted his statement on his website and left it up for at least three weeks. Any possible recent about face was too little – too late.
It’s nearly a done deal, being subject to a medical and personal terms. Let us all move on and look forward to the future not back at the past.
The big questions now are who would we like to see signed and who are we likely sign?
All done Lee…
Alan MP, is Ashley Cole foreign?????
All players are, up to a point, mercenary, it comes with the nature of the job. One injury away from no career.
Fabrice Muamba for example….
Hi jim –
looks like we won’t be getting a keeper doesn’t it, fabianski said yesterday he is ready to fight Ches for the number one spot. Seems the keepers are doing a lot more training with the defence and working on crosses, something which has always been fabianski’s weakness
arsenal fans here have been setting ablaze their Rotten Vile Poison jerseys….
Got it Rico.
chrome://newtabhttp//www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19179833
It is understood Van Persie was encouraged by the arrivals of Germany forward Lukas Podolski, France striker Olivier Giroud and Spain midfielder Cazorla – to the point where he was open to the idea of staying with or without a new contract.
But Wenger pulled him aside shortly before Sunday’s friendly victory over Cologne, told him he would be sold if a deal could be reached and informed the Dutchman he was no longer part of his plans.
Clock End Jim, great points mate…
Ah the old Clock End, those were the days, where it all began…
Thanks.
emma – Theo must see he has more chance of getting a central start this season, i’m hoping he stays…
Chamakh though is in no better position, he won’t get too much playing time, i really hope he goes…
KT is back…great to see.
ESP…did you grab that time keeper yet??
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19179833
Stinking google chrome !
Seems to me that being made captain is your cue to be the next departure saga. Why do I want Diaby to be the new captain? Seriously guys, who should it be? TV looks to be the popular choice. Does it really matter? have we really had a captain with his heart 100% in it since Tony?
Chamakh may try and hang it out ….
Ewood Park is no Emirates ….
Just hope Wenger tells him he’s not in HIS plans…
Seen it now Syg, emma put the same link up earlier, does make a difference to my own view though if true…
If our defence can be come compact and not as useless as it was against tiny tots,or Norwich..the we can at least draw back 15 points from the 19 last season .
Hi AK and a blinding read.I feel AW has grown tired of developing these players only for them to stab him in the back.Look at purse strings;rape charge,defiant youth,crock…he did not even believe in himself that he could play the lone striker role only AW did.How does he repay him?…
I feel thats why we have seen a change in purchasing trend and am sure AW is hellbent to prove the snake wrong.We can now have a more balanced squad.Spread out the goals.Gerv/theo no longer have to pass to 1 player all the time,they have to take responsibility.
From what I saw against Cologne Poldi has the right attitude.You could see how happy he was in our colours;you could see it in his eyes.He knows he has it all to prove at club level and this is his chance.Poldi10 is Batman,f**k Robin.
Its bad enough seeing Chamakh on the pitch Syg, let alone with him hanging it out π
3,000,000 hits and HH is not even two years old –
Well done guys and gals who click on the headline each day and come and get involved in what i believe is great debate and good fun each day…
Thank you everyone…..
SYG, that BBC reporter seemed to writing his piece as if he’d been given an interview by someone ‘off the record’…
Comes across as verbatim to me!
David Ornstein β@bbcsport_david
Arsenal not currently in market for RvP replacement, they feel attacking business is done. Possible move for right-back/defensive cover #afc
what if Rotten Vile Poison told AW: ok i see you have new signing and says why don’t you pay me 200k and then we can begin the new season and live happily ever after…..it doesnt change my view about him..
Well done Rico…..
Did you ever imagine how this thing would take off 2 years ago….???
Your House rules make it the success it is…
KT,next time I spruiking a player,put your money on.
Go Podolski!!
Guys,this is off topic,and coming from an Aussie.
Is Brett Holman getting any decent reviews yet?
I’ve seen a few Villa Games on their TV show…I can get it in Oz….and he’s killing it so far.
RIP has already at least 5 goals in the PL next year…you know,Penalties.Webb has already pre-ordered RIP shirt.
Well Rico we should be thanking you….its an honour on my part.
Did you read the Myles Palmer thing I pasted, Kev.
Van Persie going is not that bad.
Ferguson must be an idiot to give the heads up to that deal…. Saying that, he hasn’t passed his medical yet …. and look what happened with Van Nistlerooy – he got sent back!
its sad news for us but we can move on… we have some very good players we need to sell the deadwood soon: top priority would be to get rid of chamakh, squillachi, nikki b and park. After that we can decide what to do with arshavin. i would not sell him at the moment we have AOC and walcott injured. i would play arshavin as a CAM and santi on the right wing against Sunderland. my team for sunderland would be:
Gerviniho Giroud Santi
——-Arshavin——
–Song —– Diaby—
Gibbs Vermy Mert coquellen
———Schz——-
i think this is a good team and we can slowly slot in Podolski as and when the match progreses.
our bench looks really week at the moment: Flappy, Ramsay, Pododlski, djouru, santos, yennari, bartley and jenko are the only back ups we have at the moment.
Sgana, Kozzer, Rosicky, Arteta, wilsahre, frimpong,walcott adn AOC are all injured at the moment.
MAJOR CONCERNS:
1. The only midfielder we have as back up at thye moment is Ramsay
2. A injury to Mert or Vermy or coquellen and we are screwed like last season. Djouru, Bartley and Jenko are not good enough back ups. Djouru may be he can improve his game but i have serious doubts about Bartley and Jenko.
3.Flappy in our back up. His name says it all.
AK,I’ve attracted plenty of new members…why so surprised lol
Nah,it’s the best forum around.
Here a few other great ones,but this will always be number 1.
Plenty of credit goes to the great members,but RICO is Queen!
By Saturday KT, none of us will give RIP a thought.
I know i won’t…
What are your feelings on the Hernandez link KT..?
Deal might be in the pipeline whilst RIP is having his medical?
Billboy – thankfully we don’t have any that need the emotional armband now…
From all over the world Scott, but why no more Aussie’s???
Are most of your fellow countrymen plastic Scousers and Mancs?
Gotta spread the word Scott….
Thanks Kev/bondex
No Kev, i didn’t …. Shocked really but bloomin pleased, great crop we have here….
Another Aussie import?
He scored a couple of goals in pre-season, Scott
The best Aussie import after Rolf Harris !
For a club that has so many financial issues they sure do spend alot.Rvp and Shrek alone if reports are to be believed will be earning 1 million pounds every fortnight!!!!#insane.
Off to read it now SYG….
Scott π
Terry, AW is still looking to sign players, I strongly suspect it will be a defender like VdW or similar who can play anywhere across the back line..
Also, the injuries to Ox and Theo, well I doubt there is much truth in them, just AW keeping them from last nights silly friendly…
Thank goodness he is gone now.Just waiting 4 him 2 sign & then gets injured in a freak accident in his bath tub.
I realise I’m in the huge,massive minority on this Fabianski.
I’m loving the fact he’s coming out fighting,and telling us he wants #1 spot.
I’ll say it again…he’s technically one of the best keepers I’ve seen.
If he can fulfil his promise,and drop that monkey off his back,he really could end up our best option,and everyone knows what I think of Szczesny,so thats not a knock on him.
I’m not sure he can become all that he can be,but I like what I’m hearing….it’s a start.
AK Hernandez is a very good poacher and thats it.He has no creativity at all,cannot dribble past his man and average shootng technique from outside the penalty box.He got found out last season and thats why red nose plays Welbeck ahead of him.When he isn’t scoring he contributes very little.
Esp – in answer to your earlier, yes I think he will spend the money….
You are right Scott, you are in the minority π
Kt, he’s a far better option from the bench though than Chamakh, and he’s good with his head. I’d be happy if we get him…
SYG, i don’t usually read Myles Palmer, but he makes some interesting points…
I was also as interested by who AW sold this summer, as i was by who he brought in!
Not sure about selling Walcott, we don’t wanna lose too many bodies in one go….
Any news on Sahin, has he actually signed for the Scousers?
We won’t get him rico.Red nose wouldn’t do that.
SYG,Kylie is considered average looking here lol.
AK,there are plenty of Utd fans,and of late,there are Citeh shirts everywhere…..funny,that!!
I actually don’t know too many Gooners.
If I come across anyone worthy of HH,I shall recruit them.
scot never knew fabianski had a monkey on his back…can imagine what the monkey tells him when he is in goal… π
fine post Allezkev..and it in many ways sums up my feelings too..worrying trend though players jumping ship like rats..and always our top players…why cant they be as loyal as park or chamakh ???
im all good with this business because i have accepted the New Arsenal..money is far more important than the football…
and i do allow Wenger his small lies..its no biggie..replacements here and there everywhere…
selling club..hmmm..well okay then..but lets be the best at that !!
If,and it’s a big if,we ever do see the best of Fabianski,I’ll remind you of this conversation Rico….you know i will lol.
SYG…I reckon any clubs fans would love Holman….he’s a goer.
I’m with Scott here.Fabianski is technically better than Szczesny.He is miles better in terms of distribution.He only lacks Szczesny’s presence which is vital.Presence gives defenders calmness;Fabs makes everyone nervous including himself.If he had Szczesny’s presence he would be absolute class.
Bondex,he’s got something or someone whispering in his ear “you’re no good,you’re no good”,and the trouble is,he listens to it.
My wife’s uncle lives in Elemore Vale near Newcastle. His barber’s apparently an Arsenal fan. I sent him a shirt over a few years ago.
Kylie? Lol. Like your style.
Cop this.
http://www.corrieredellosport.it/calcio/calcio_estero/premier_league/2012/08/16-259456/Van+Persie+allo+United%2C+tifosi+dell%27Arsenal+infuriati
Eboue – the flailing princess and drama queen re: Van Persie.
“No respect, no pity for the Netherlands donkey. I’m sorry but I can not respect a captain who leaves his ship.”
WHAT ABOUT THAT THEN?
Rico — Congratulations on the the new hits count “3,000,000 hits and HH is not even two years old”. That’s in part because you and your/our community live by the motto in your banner head “Where it’s OK to disagree”.
It is good to be able to have a rational discussion of club issues without being put down or suffer personal attacks just because you have an alternate opinion. You and the regulars set a tone of tolerance and inclusion. That’s not to say a poster wont be taken to task for their postings, but is generally done in a friendly and constructive manner. Keep up the good work everyone.
Kt, talk is he is part of the deal, we’ll have to wait and see…
hi tomstoned – Β£22m for a 29 year old in his last year of contract, that’s pretty good selling π
hey rico-housers.
Sorry m typing via mobile. Out for few days.
Just one word for Robin to utd. Heartbroke. I remember i had this feeling when broke up with my gf. It took me 2 years to recover from that and left me with burning feeling to be something extraordinary in life n after that have become something with longway to go. I hope afc does the same. We must prove ourselves n for that we have right person at the helm.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-tkzyeycict8/UCy17x9TGEI/AAAAAAAAAjA/FLOmG6WTJfU/s493/Screen+Shot+2012-08-16+at+11.55.13+AM.png
KT, you never know about Hernandez?
Mourinho had to give us Gallas to snare Cole, and he really didn’t want to do that…
Depends how desperate Fergie was to get his man?
He did phone up Wenger personally, so it shows he was pretty desperate…
Lee,I love that email…….thanks for having it sent.
Did we ever think we’d be comparing RVP to that bastard Nasri??
SYG…..I work about 5 minutes from Elermore Vale!!!
Eboue, like his style SYG…
Didn’t rate him as a footballer though…
You guys seen RvP when SS’s tried to interview him last night??
They said, ‘Robin, a word for the Arsenal fans’
Nothing……
cg- I wish I lived over there to join in. Silence would unnerve himq more than boos although the latter could still prove effective.
My final thought is that he is the sad excuse of a coverup for a club’s silly finances and will be irrelevant in no more than 2 years.
Right, moving on, anything new on the transfer front? Capoue? In my dreams, Jovetic?
Thanks Canadian Gooner
Good rico.He knows how disappointed we are with him.I’d rather he just went and never speaks about us,the club or AW in any interview he ever does.Of all the players that have left us he has been the worst considering all we’ve done for him.
Ahhh, Eboue…. π
Good old Eboue.he loves this club,that am sure.
b1727 – Capoue would soon take the edge off of our imminent loss
Modric is on his way to RM….
He does Kt, lovely fella but….
Fabianski.
The majority of all Premier League goalkeepers are good. Of this there is no doubt.
What makes them “not so good” or “great” is their decisions. Decisions when 50,000 or so are looking at your positioning on a free kick or corner or whether to come out and collect or not, or whether to pass it wide to a defender or to just clear it into row B.
A goalkeeper makes a mistake he gets vilified. He knows that.
It’s a pressure thing. It’s massive, and if the HEAD can’t handle it then he’s bollocksed.
Its the head of a goalkeeper that makes the goalkeeper great.
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KViapbGxGo
Fabianski never had time to think about that save. It was a natural reaction. Given time to think about the situation – he flaps, hence his nickname….. and Drogba rounding him in the League Cup Final bordered on amateurish.
But, Arsenal are full of mental midgets. Diaby, Song, Djourou take your pick..
Who needs Rotten Vile Poison …http://hereisthecity.com/2012/08/15/watch-new-arsenal-signing-santi-cazorla-scores-for-spain-v-puert/?
Just realised that RvP didn’t even get a mention on International watch on afc.com for last nights games….
“It is difficult for someone like me who has an Arsenal gun sealed to his chest, not just to pat on the shirts” Bob Wilson
Have manure bought the ultimate, highly priced and over rated PIG IN A POKE?
SYG,I agree with every word you wrote.
If…it’s a big if lol.
Just goes to show Scott, that it’s a small world …
Wavy,let’s hope so.
boomergooner1727 — “I wish I lived over there to join in.” I share that wish.
As for Capoue, he looked good when he came on in the second half against Uruguay. He seemed to smooth the tempo and flow of France’s game. A lot of the play transitioned through him, he’s very comfortable with the ball at his feet, regained possesion many times and passed with accuracy and ease. He did concede a foul and collect a yellow card, but it was deep in Urufuay’s end.
If sahin doesn’t come to us, I think we will buy a stong disciplined Dm and a CB or FB.
Red nose is desperate to win the PL and thats why he paid so much for RIP.His judgement is clouded by the fact that they had already been rejected by Hazard/Moura.He wanted to save face andhe would’ve paid anything to get him.
The mancs failed to win the title because of their poor CM options not lack of goals.Let him worry about City,he won’t see us coming.
Thats true SYG.
I’ve trawled through all the European sports broadsheets. Nothing re: Sahin in any of them since yesterday.
I hope Liverpool don’t get him – The waiter behind the bar is a smarmy-Liverpool fan. He’s also an earwigging-pervert too !
Rico hope your doing well…true true..its a good sell..agreed but we tend to be good at that..selling..to bad that seem to be our ambition mate..im not going to bang on with my opinions ..its getting a tad boring…and most know where i stand..;)
but all this selling will come back and bite us…how many kids around the world do you think loves barca for their top players messi etc..
im afraid we-re loosing out…our fanbase should be growing..not decreasing…
nope Rico imo The new Arsenal are loosing on every front..
but ive learned to forgive Wenger for his little lies..its ok..replacements here,there and everywhere π
im havin a harder time accepting the fact that we’re being reduced to just another american business model…
lets all be fine Gooners and have some class..lets not boo,lets get behind the company,and its working staff..
in my silly mind i believed Wenger&co whgen they told us the move from Highbury would make us be able to compete with the best..the creme of football..how stupid was i..not knowing that it would also include selling our best players every year ??..hmm..
Rico we both know our football and the importance of keeping a team toghether for years..thats how you create a winning team…
i leave you with this Rico….
Wenger on the dead mans ;)situation :
We have not buyed players to replace ***
and yesterday..we have already recruited to replace ***..all those lies..i love wenger but i wouldnt trust him with my misses cat..
I reckon Sahin wants out for good,but Mourinho is telling the world he wants him long term,hoping to drive up the price.
Bugger a loan,get him for good.
I hope so too Wavy…
What’s the latest on Sahin, anyone know??
All this selling Tomstone??
We’ve sold one great player,but hae brought in 3 rippers.
I know you’re talking over a few seasons,but we’ve bought brilliantly this season,and it’s not over.
I understand all that’s being said this morning – I can remember how I felt when Frank Stapleton took the same path.
But, I don’t think I will feel the same anger for Van Persie if next May we are still holding a cheque for Β£22m and Utd win the EPL and Arsenal fans are told ” fourth is as good as a trophy” – again !
Gotta say that this cheese on toast is delicious…
Thought i’d share that with ya… π
SYG — Re: “But, Arsenal are full of mental midgets. Diaby, Song, Djourou take your pick..” I have to agree with you about Djourou. He would play well for a stretch, like in the Champions League a few years ago, then he would have one truly bad game and totally lose his confidence. He got the wobbles and was shattered every time he played against Diddler Drogba.
The games against the mancs next season will be at boiling point now.
Rvp, does not worth the stress. I hope his family will be able to walk freely in public, without being insulted. Atleast Na$ri doesn’t have kids, its really a bad move, he may forever regret.
tomstoned, those two comments from AW are conflicting but no doubt last night when asked about spending, he didn’t want to say yes, i am now in the market for a striker…
All that does is tell the world to put up the prices as Wenger and Arsenal have money…
Let him get the money in, and then lets see what happens over the next few days….
Scott mate..
i hope your right..that we have bought three rippers ;)me ill have to wait and see…lets hope so though
my main concern with all this selling and buying business apart from us clearly being a selling club who cant keep our best players ,and even besides us being expected to balance the books and NOT reinvesting..(where does the money go ??)
is simply this ..look at all great teams trough history ..whats the main thing..what is the essence of them all…well they have kept the players together for a longer period of time..that is and will always be the main factor of success mate..well one could argue that Mourinho is abit different..but he has the freedom to buy what he wants…
Morning all,
We’ve seen some great partnerships down the years but “Fatman and Robin” takes the biscuit for me.
Might have to dig out my Life of Brian dvd later while i’m at it.
Steve, fourth is never as good as a trophy. The only thing that’s as good as a trophy is a trophy.
I keep on saying it, the best bit of business Arsenal can do as a club is to alter the central dynamics of the team and ship out Alex Song and the rest of the deadwood.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/everton-boss-david-moyes-opens-talks-with-53m–kevin-mirallas-8050548.html
A piece re: Miralles.
He has had talks with us, and now he is talking to Everton.
The mirror quoted that HE HAS A PREFERENCE of club. That club won’t be Everton unless they’re offering him daft money.
Why would Arsene admit we are after a striker?…that would be a daft move.I wouldn’t be surprised if deals are already in place elsewhere and the RIP issue had to be sorted first.
To stoned,I see your point,but let’s face it,you couldn’t really say RVP has been a long term member of anything but the medical room lol.
We have a relatively young squad now,so let’s hope they grow together and enjoy some success.
Sorry Tomstoned….bloody IPad doing me in again.
Rico..im sure your right and it would make sense..still those little lies seems to follow Wenger around..but as i said im still behind the genius..even though i think he should stick to building the best Arsenal team ever..nothing more..
but Rico have a think..if that is the true meaning of wengers words…have he once again left it terrible late…and we do loose alot of kids over this havoc..
and that will eventually be a disaster..
Looks like Spurs are getting M’Vila…. fantastic, more good news.
Mick,
“He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy”…
ESP….did you end up getting a watch??
Shut up Big Nose !
I feel more confident now than i was this time last season….we have experience now and the good thing is that as it stands now,no one player will be totally indispensable…even manure don’t have as much options as we do now even with Rotten Vile Poison in their ranks…
Morning al..
Good post AK.. up gunners
Scott no worries mate..;)worse things have happened…last year everyone thought i was having an omelett with some rather strange mushrooms every morning..thats having opinions for ya ;
so lets as you say hope it turns out ok…we should be ready to rumble i the new year then as wenger tells us it takes a good solid six months for new players to adjust ;)lol
Wtg, I think he’ll live to regret it, most do when they leave us….
SYG,
The problem is we never clear out the deadwood, we only seem to sell our best players.
SYG, David Moyes has a good eye for a player mate…
If Moyes is after Miralles, then he must be good…
Β£5.3 million, is great business.
Scott I wussed out in the end, but I will indeed buy it some point soon!
Is the Sunderland match on the tele this weekend?
Steve – man utd will struggle to get 4th this season…
Hi Micko..
Popping off for a while, back later…..
wale …. remember hleb…he left for the “best club in the world”…even Viera got relegated at juventus….
Scott, have to say if Fabianski stays at Arsenal he never be the number 1 for his country, he may move yet.
I know,well,I reckon :),Cazorla and Podolski will hit the ground running.
I believe Giroud will be a terrific player for us,but may take a little longer.
Gervinho will be a different player.
I thought last year he was so intimidated by RVP’s reputation that he wasn’t game to take on a shot unless there was asolutely no other option…..that’s not a strikers mentality.
Theo may well get his shot at playing central.
Cazorla will knock in 6-8 goals,and set up plenty.
We will score more goals his season than last,we just need to stop the bleeding of goals,soft goals.
What did the Romans ever do for us?
i agree rico…..manure have no dept….manure – Rotten Vile Poison & Shrek = 5th on the table…whats the use ,RVP scores a hatrick ,against stoke but is out for four months.
Micko,I’m not suggesting Fabianski will ever get over his anxieties,just saying that if he ever does……
ESP,get one mate…..if you don’t like it,send it over here!!
Cg – I’m new to regularly commenting here but have you been over for a match? Le boss has some Plato-esque reasoning for why touring north America would be detrimental to the club but every year i keep my fingers crossed.
I didn’t catch the france match but from what i hear that guy is worth the hype and I’ve read an interview of him expressing interest in leaving, guess we’ll see. If we signed anyone from Toulouse I’d fancy sissoko but either would do.
Cheers STV, you feeling better today mate?
By Saturday we’ll be buzzing again…
I think arsenal should target whatever striker spuds look at after they get their mored*ck cash, THAT would lift the fans’ spirits; kill 3 birds with one stone (pun intended)…
I’m just thinking of his ambition Scott, he’ll have to move if he wants to play for Poland.
Ya my man.. players come and go fans will be always fans nd Arsenal is always Arsenal.
Hw u doing
Off twitter
Theo Walcott’s contract talks have progressed well, he will sign a new improved contract. #Arsenal
Song & his agent are permitted to discuss with Barcelona
What is he going to do at Barca. May be he is much better than we think he is !
Fair call Micko.
At the very least,he’s talking himself up….it’s nice to hear.
Song will fit in at Barca.
Every player there does his share of defensive duties,so Song can let it slide!!
“bring on the new season. Bring on Manchester United on November 3rd. Van Persie is a great striker and weβll miss him, no doubt. But just as we coped without him for all those years he sat on the treatment table weβll cope without him now”…tmh.
I’m feeling good STV, thanks….
It’s a beautiful sunny day down here on the South Coast…
Really enjoying the positivity on here today STV…
and why shouldn’t we be positive…
RIP going was on the cards, but we still have a great squad of players.
And i’m sure we’ll have another one or two signings before 31st August…
We cannot get too depressed every time a rival signs someone, it happens.
M’Vila to Spuds, on the face of it, is a bummer…
But you gotta ask why we aren’t signing him?
we all know he’d prefer Arsenal, so there has to be a reason…?
Spuds don’t pay more wages, so why?
If Song goes we need to bring in M’vila!
More on negotiation arsenal and barca on song http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20120816/fc-barcelona/fichaje-song-barcelona_54337938387.html#.UCyY9zFsscU.twitter
Dont see us getting m’vila. Wenger has gone cold on it. There is something we don’t know that made wenger to drop out of the race for m’vila
ESP, Wenger might have earmarked a replacement for Song, who none of us have heard of..?
Biglia, we don’t hear about him anymore…
Just saying!
Seems like we are the ones willing to sell Song.The boss is in ruthless mood this summer.The professor is back.
Till tomorrow fellow Gooners.
Remember – Always Look on the Bright Side of Life!
Ea, 18m euro, about Β£15 million i think?
Barca will play Song as a cover for CB just like Mascherano.he won’t get near their MF.
Goodnight Canuck
Kev I wouldn’t be surprised if that replacement is Diaby, who WILL be injured in the first week of the Season..
Would love to see M’Vila and Sakho come in.
I guess Cazorla will play behind Giroud and not on the wing? Hopefully..
Gary Jacob
Sports reporter, The Times
September 1999 β 2012
To stay at Arsenal, Robin wanted Β£250K per week plus a Β£5M loyalty bonus …. a new right back and a new centre back
Bacary Sagna, Vermaelen, Mertesacker, Koscelny are all good solid players …
Reading between the lines he’s a greedy bastard but he also reckons Jenkinson and Djourou are shite?
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/gary-jacob/1/159/a82
KT, that’s how i see it…
A replacement for Puyol..!
Actually straight swap for Mascherano would do me nicely!
Straight roads aqueducts sanitation irrigation medecine education health and Wine!!
Paul, i can’t blame ya for thinking that, maybe AW sees Coquelin as Song’s replacement..?
OK, Coq isn’t a sexy big signing, but that kid can play!
I don’t see Diaby as a major player for us Paul, more just as a squad player, who can fill in, as and when ( if he’s fit? )…
Anyone remember David Herd? He was the first cf to go from Arsenal to manure, round about 1960, he improved them and we didn’t win anything for another 8 years or so. Then Stapleton, I was really deflated then, we were just making real progress and now RvP. All in all it weakens us and strengthens the opposition, not for long though, not this time, some clogger will have him and he’ll be on the mending table – again. so Manure will be no better off, we will to the tune of Β£24m + add ons!
What goes round comes round.
I think this buy has been done by a senile old git desperately trying to get one over on City, cos they said they wanted him, so old red nose has pissed on their party! Well we’ll see.
In the meantime we’re not so badly off, it’s not brilliant but I think the squad is more capable and has a more balanced look to it than any squad of the last 5 years or so.
Here’s hoping
Kev if Coquelin is anything like Flamini I would be happy to have him in midfield.
It seems we had to get rid of him.Can you imagine telling your boss your workmates are shit??
Sakho, Paul, would be a fantastic signing, i agree.
Forget Hernandes he is not an improvement by any means on what we have. What we need the most is a good DM and a cover in defense. And you all talk about Podolsky and Giraud and Carzola feeding them balls but someting stood out to me watching the Cologne game, someting that made me sit up and take note, someting that actually got me exsited. Namly the inter play between Carzola nd Ox….thats going to be something huge for us I believe.
Looks like Song gets closer to the exit door Emma…
Wenger’s brinkmanship with Barcelona re: Song
Wenger playing hard to get !
Lee, π
ktr7 says:
August 16, 2012 at 12:14 pm
It seems we had to get rid of him.Can you imagine telling your boss your workmates are shit??
LMFAO I do that all the time π
Its because our Wenger is too thoughtful Kev, when it comes to transfers. Ok he is the Professor, but he should think less about the profit/loss how to get cheap how to fit in the player, interest of the club what he like to do.. so forth. Just em
By the time he doing these it’s time some one else gone with the player. We’ve seen the case of Mata, Cahill seeing Mvilla’s
TT,we are all talking about them because they’re the new boys.
We’re not forgetting those we have.
Good for you TT.Becks received a boot to the head for his troubles.
Wavy, do you remember when we sold them Ian Ure..?
KT, love the new profile…. π
I hope the OX/Jack when they become world beaters don’t betray us.
You misunderstand me Scott its not that they cought my eye its actually the oppesite. I see a massive partnership developing between Ox and one of the new boys. Poldi and Giraud are fantastic but the combo of Ox and Carsoa really gets me going.
just GET them.
Have not caught my eyr*
SYG.. π
AK: POLDI10#BATMAN#BRUCE WAYNE…f**k Robin.
Fuck I cant spell π
Sahin’s future to be made official anytime from now.
Wavy,
Yes I remember David Herd – just.
Thanks, I do love a bit of nostalgia when I’m feeling low.
Hopefully us Ktr7, if we are loosing Song we need another player plus a true DM.
back in a bit..
I’m not having a shot TT,just that we are all excited to see the new boys go around.
Everyone knows I love Podolski,but Cazorla will probably be even more influential for us.
Ox will enjoy playing alongside him,because they’re two peas in a pod…..one world class player,one a world class player in the making.
We are going to tear sides apart at times this season.
Just tighten up the defensive side,and we will not go into a single game scared of the result.
KTR7. When one of the ex-Arsenal lads pointed to Van Persie looking around the dressing room etc….
Even in Sunday pub football we know who’s shit and who’s good, and who the managers favourites are.. It can’t be any different at professional level…
Wenger can condescend to us mere mortals about us never being managers in the game for half a day etc.. But me, I know what is good and what is shit and what is great and what is average, as do a wide variety of fans and bloggers on here…
The 90% feeling on here is 1. get rid of the deadwood
2. Then sign Sahin
3. Go for either M’Vila or Capoue for the anchor midfield.
4. If we want a proper fourth central defender then Sakho, the majority feel is your man.
5. Promote Yennaris in front of Jenkinson or go out and buy a proper right back.
Five moves to PL glory.
Wish you’d take this more seriously SYG.
It’s ok TT,I’m learning how to decipher that pommy accent lol.
Nice one KT….. π
Fingers and toes crossed for Sahin…..
Tbh, we really need a lift…
Ott twitter:
On Tuesday I was informed the Sahin deal hinged on the confirmation of the RVP to United deal. 1 needed to go, he was closest to exit.
I do Micko, I do.
Last week we were all shaking hands and patting each other on the back then WALLOP.
But things in football can change.
Remember ARSENAL NEVER NEGOTIATE OR EVEN PASS COMMENT IN PUBLIC RE: TRANSFERS
Get Sahin in, and the mood will change.
Exactly SYG.
We never know what’s happening.
AK: Can’t wait for Saturday to support the players who want to be here.after all we’ve got #BATMAN now.
Jamie Sandersonβ@YoungGunsBlog
AS reporting that Real Madrid have convinced Nuri Sahin to go to Liverpool over Arsenal. Looks like this one is slipping away.
AFC one of the few remaining clubs who don’t give in to player power. AW ‘furious’ after statement, RVP’s days were numbered. Commendable.
I’m pleased he’s gone. I would have liked him to start the season to ease in our new recruits but Β£22-24M – it’s no contest for a player most, including me, would have sold last season or before due to his weakening the squad with his sick-bed record.
We had his best I’m sure last season & I can’t believe Fergie paid that sort of money (+contract with 200+K/week) for him – he could be crocked again in a fortnight. The rot has started at Old Toilet & I’m sure now that Fergie will be replaced next year: his judgement has gone.
I was concerned when there was talk of us offering him a bumper pay deal, happy with the thought of letting him see out his contract and adding year by year like DB10 but now ultra happy at the final result.
I can’t wait to see the further recruits & our challenge for the title this year! COYR!!!!!!!!
SYG,
As Myles Palmer said earlier, selling RVP & Song could be a great opportunity for Arsenal to move forward or an easy way to bank Β£35-Β£40m.
Based on recent history I am not holding my breath.
Matt Chapmanβ@MattChReport
@YoungGunsBlog Brendan Rogers press conference was asked about Sahin & Tello, with a smile he replied “we’ll see in the next 48 hours”.
Is it true Juve got Lloente??
I doubt pool will get Tello AK.
STV he is apparently very close to juve right now.
KT, could all be smoke and mirrors….
But Mourinho hates Wenger, and that’s the major obsticle to Sahin joining Arsenal imho…
I know AK.Though i hear Sahin prefers Arsenal.He rejected spuds since they had no CL.so why would he join pool?…
Professionally speaking,Mourinho would be stupid to have Sahin go to Liverpool over us.
That AS news was published yesterday. Sahin wants Champions League football and we have offered the right money. As Kev states there is only one obstacle. The special child.
@nurisahin05
Bang him a few tweets
DH: Arsenal, Spurs & Chelsea interested in Anderlecht defender Cheikhou KouyatΓ©. #rsca want β¬10m, would take β¬7m upfront. #af
Cazorla the baller.If he adapts well he will be a candidate for PFA Awards.
Did’nt he say he will not stand Sahin’s way to Arsenal? They are not even in the CL!!
Tweeted him SYG, don’t know if the bloody thing worked?
Wayne Veysey’s just said:
Barcelona have indicated they will meet the Londonersβ valuation of the midfielder in a development in negotiations between the two clubs.
Arsenal are ready to give the 24-year-old the green light to become the fourth player in five years to make the move from Emirates Stadium to the Nou Camp.
Afternoon guys…
A defensive midfielder and a versatile attacker is what I want. M’Vila and Jovetic would be ideal.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens.
I hope you told him who you were, Kev?
Everyone knows who Kev is.
Hi Romford.I’d love Jovetic but i doubt he’ll come.
I very much doubt it too. If the Jovetic deal went through, that’d be a real two fingers up at RIP and also to anyone else doubting our ambition.
Ah well, one can dream.
SYG, everyone knows who Kev is!! π
He is such a god player Pele.
I’ve just tweeted him to join us and win the Champions League.
Hiya Pele. How’s it hanging?
http://t.co/nIFs4HYQ
I honestly love him KT. He has got to be one my fav non-Arsenal playes. He reminds me of a young Baggio. I think he’ll end up at someone like Milan/Inter/Juve though.
One of the players to benefit from the RVP departure may be Arshavin. He needs to play in the hole and work on his fitness though.
I’m good SYG, what’s new man?
Just in my mailbox at linkedin.com from a kid in Newcastle I know..
I’m currently looking for an engineer/geologist to head up an office in London/Southern area of the country, can you get any interested parties to contact me on the number or email below
Gary Dresser
Dunelm Geotechnical & Environmental Ltd
Tel 0191 378 3151
gdresser@dunelm.co.uk
Further upgrades on the way then if we’re ditching Song……….. that sounds really exciting!
Pele he is one of my dream players.I,vo got him on my FIFA 12 Arsenal team.
Nowt much Pele.. Got in around 01:00am got up about 7:30 and everyone’s burning Arsenal shirts…
http://www.goal.com/en/news/596/exclusive/2012/08/16/3311099/arsenal-ready-to-give-green-light-for-15m-song-move-to?source=breakingnews
I hope you are right re: Arshavin, Pele.
A couple of Germans barking orders at him, might do the trick to get him motivated
I bought him on my FM manager game KT – I spend way too much on that, girlfriend isn’t impressed!
Late night SYG! Up to anything nice? I would definitely be burning an RVP top too if I had one!
I hope so too SYG – if we’re not signing, we need to look for decent internal solutions.
I just tweeted him…
Night all.
Come on Arsene…I want to wake up to some good news….get us another one in.
afternoon all!
Sahin – Liverpool – confirmed
Llorente – Juventus
Song – close Barcelona
Brilliant…
http://c0014439.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_e03e909
Jovetic to ac/inter makes too much sense if the club sell and they’ve said they would. If he has a monster season he’ll go somewhere besides us and we (well, at least I) will be extremely jealous. The kid has all the necessary tools to become a superstar. I don’t claim to be an expert but I think he’s one of few who could take our offense to the next level, no offense to the new boys.
Boomer i believe that too.Jovetic would be a dream signing.
#SkySports Ferguson: “van Persie is on his way up from London for a medical later this afternoon. We hope that goes according to plan”
Dont worry we will get a black cab and make sure he doesn’t end up in city like nasri
Llorente: Bilbao wants 36 millions.
spain press also talks in Cavani and the central forward of Dortmund
Rotten Vile Poison…bought on wednesday,injured on monday…..this is the end of Rotten Vile Poison….
Sahin β Liverpool β confirmed
NOT confirmed
SYG confirmed not confirmed????
A meal out with friends, Pele.
There is no confirmation on Sahin to Liverpool
I’ve trawled through the Spanish press – nothing apart from what we all already knew…
I think Emma has a direct link with Marca, so I’m sure she’ll tell us if anything develops
I have a feeling Wenger is pinning a lot of his hopes on Diaby this season – risky with his injury record.
ktr – I can only think of so many potentially available players in his class even if we spent that kind of cash. I think we’ll end up filling the dm hole and balancing the books with these next 2 weeks, somewhat depends on song though, I suppose.
Sahin looks like he’ll be wearing ‘warrior sports’ red next season, shame.
I literally think we’ll only get one more player in max – and that will be a DM IMO.
Come on … let’s have less negativity ..
Brendan Rogers is just generating media attention by giving the sports press quotes..
Wenger or the club never go public …..
I dunno why but I think M’Vila isn’t a dead deal…..
I’m pretty sure it’s not Lee. We had a massive bid rejected for him last year and there seems to be a lack of interest this year. He wants to come to us, it’s just a matter of getting the price down.
Also, Rennes have just signed Jean Makoun from Villa who plays the same role as M’Vila – make of that what you will.
Afternoon all…………..
Have we Sold anyone..???????????
Seems various reports are saying Song is a done deal… lets hope so…! Then to get him replaced ASAP and AN OTHER and we’re sorted.
So it seems everyone is set on a DM coming in (M,Vila, maybe Capoue) … There may be one more position in after that – what do we reckon it’s going to be? Realistically?
EA Sports are really taking the piss with the ratings of Arsenal players in FIFA 13.
Some Dutch prick WATH….
Really KT?! Where have you seen this? I thought since Ox was in the trailer, he may be highly-rated?! FILL ME IN!
SKY SOURCES: Sunderland sign Luis Saha on one-year contract – full details on #SSN
Ian Ure to manure! I’d forgotten that piece of shrewd business. God he was crap!
Has RvP passed his medical yet. The senile old git suggested it may take a while!! I wonder if he will be returned to us cos he’s not ‘fit’ for purpose!!
That’d make me laugh!!
My mate just text me….”RvP fails Man U medical!!”
Pele:Podolski 83, Giroud 83, Koscielny 82, Arteta 78, Sagna 80, Ox 75. Song 85, Wilshere 79, Walcott 81, Vermaelen 82, Gibbs 78.Szczesny 79, Ramsey 79, Santos 79, Miyaichi 71. Gerv 81.jenks 62.Rosicky 80.Diaby 72.Frimpong 67.Yennaris 60.coq 69.Mannone 70.Lansbury 70. RIP is 88.
Apparently down to a back problem!
I hate working on days like this. days when I would have loved to join the discussion early but at the first opportunity I find that there are over 290 responses before I even get here. Unfortunately I have given up trying to follow the previous posts so my apologies if anything I say is already well covered.
Well don’t I just feel a mug. Just a few hours after yesterday posting that this could all be some dastardly plot by RVP to destabilise our rivals before signing for us this happens. If i think of what I consider to be the great betrayels by players on this great club over the last few years RVP goes into the mix with Cashley, Adebayor and Nasri. Even before last night I had started to put Ashley’s more into perspective in view of the RVP situation and I now have, to some degree, had a rethink about that one. Here was a born and bred English gooner come through the ranks who actually supported the club as well. Ashley didn’t cover himself in glory in having meetings behind our back and the way he put it across in his book but if as was said we had agreed a Β£60kpw figure with him to then drop it to Β£55kpw for no reason we were not exactly blameless and I could also understand his feelings of feeling undervalued if the club was prepared to rescind on the verbal agreement they had. The figures with Ashley also pale into insignificance compared to what we were prepared to offer RVP.
Nasri and Adebayor are an irrelevance for me because I didn’t consider either to be quite in the world class bracket of Ashley and RVP, and also I felt the latter 2 were far more through and through gooners, which always hurts more. Furthermore these 2 went for the money which in Nasri’s case is obvious even if he tries to deny it. At least Adebayor made no bones about it being about the money which although still makes me think of him as an odious twat, in another way is at least refreshingly honest.
This brings me to the point about why I feel RVP’s is the biggest betrayal of the lot. Not only were we offering him an obscene amount of money, especially when you consider it compared to the figures where Ashley’s deal broke down, but also it is now obvious, at least to me, that RVP was all about the money. This, imo, makes his betrayal worse than Adebayor because as said the latter didn’t try and disguise it as anything else, while RVP was fully prepared to destabilise the whole club with his statement purely to force his move and to try and con the fans into believing it was for other more noble reasons. How nauseating does that statement seem now with all its silky words about love and respect for the club, manager and fans. I think AW has worked miracles to bring in the quality players he has considering how RVP painted the club to the world.
I for one always have a great nostalgic feeling about seeing the great ex servants of the club when they turn up at games in obvious support of the club they call home. I remember big Tony last season at the ground, just before a game, on some official business and walking through the tunnel when he spots a camera and turns to it in midstride and shouts come on you gooners. With a nostalgic tear in my eye I thought what a legend. Players like him TH and DB will always be welcome back and that must be a good feeling for an ex player.
RVP is and should be now dead to the club in this way. I know AW normally likes to remain friendly with ex players no matter how much they have let him down and encourages the fans to show the same respect. This is just not realistic and it should purely be the fans feelings that matter in these circumstances. That is why RVP must never be allowed to be welcomed back to the Emirates or London Colney in any capacity, not because he should feel threatened by the fans, but because he has severed all his ties with us in the worst way possible and it would be disrespectful to the fans to do so and would be disrespectful of the club to allow it to happen. There is no way any fan can have a good feeling about seeing him anywhere near our great institution at any point in the future.
Maybe this does not bother him, and maybe it is not important for him after he has retired to feel he has a club he can always turn up at that he can call home and where he is idolised. Maybe he will get this at Utd over the next 3 years but I somehow doubt that. It may sound like i am bitter but I am not as I am more disappointed by how this sorry scenario has played out. In a strange way I also feel cleansed and ready to move on. If the potential deals on Llorente and Sahin come good we will have an incredibly strong squad which should challenge in all competitions. A squad that should in no way be looked at as inferior to either Manchester clubs. There may be a settling in period which may cost us some points in the EPL early on and may affect our ability to end EPL champions this year, but if these 2 were added we could have a team that is capable of being one of the best in the world over the next few years, so come on Arsene finish off the good work you have started and onwards and upwards gooners.
End of Rant.
Because he was carrying Arsenal all last season……
KT – Where did you see that? Bullshit if it’s true. Arteta 78 – are you having me on?! Ox – 75?! This has to be some sort of sick joke!
Un-funny fucker!!
Hiya WATH. Me, Kev & Lee have had already a word with Sahin.
@nurisahin05
Give him tweet.
The gamescom demo Pele.You should see City’s ratings;they are going to be overpowered in this game.
We gotta get this dead wood off our books…..pronto!
Don’t worry GoonerB – the best business Arsenal will do in the transfer market hasn’t happened yet.. We aren’t finished yet
Even Dortmund are much better than us in this game.EA have since said they are not the final ratings but still this is a joke.If Cazorla isn’t at least 85 i’ll be furious.Nasri is 87 in this game!!!
… and we gotta get this dead wood off our booksβ¦..pronto!
Hear Hear, Lee
http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/images/feb_12/gun__1330073961_ure_ian.jpg
He even made George Armstrong look young !!!
Yeh that’s real BS KT. If anything, the team is at a higher level compared to last year. Cazorla and Podolski should both be higher. Arteta and Ox’s ratings are a pisstake too.. Diaby’s rating is an abomination.
Mikel Arteta insists Arsenal have their sights firmly set on a strong start to the Premier League campaign.
The Gunners endured a difficult start to last season with just three wins from their opening eight matches but recovered admirably to secure third place and Champions League football.
Arteta is adamant the Gunners can hold their own against anyone but warned that a positive opener against Sunderland could be key.
βWe have to start better than last season, that’s for sure,β he told Arsenal Player. βWe also have to try to keep players fit for longer than we did last season and not concede as many goals.
βThis is all possible and from day one we have to think that we are as good as the other teams. I don’t see other teams as better than us, I know my team-mates well.
βIf everybody is fit, comfortable and ready for a fight then I think we can handle it.β
Arteta, a transfer deadline-day signing from Everton last summer, enjoyed a superb first season at the Club and quickly endeared himself to the Emirates Stadium faithful. And with a year in north London now under his belt, the Spaniard hopes there is plenty more to come.
βEvery year you are trying to improve your numbers and how you can help the team,β said the midfielder. βWe will see what the boss will ask me to do. I always try my best and that won’t be different.
βIt was a crazy day when I joined the Club. The week before I signed there was a lot going on with the big defeat against Manchester United at Old Trafford and suddenly a few players joined on the same day.
βWe tried to rebuild very quickly and we did well to get it back but this year we can move forward and everybody has that ambition. I can feel a different atmosphere, the Club is stable and the fans are excited. That is what we need.β
SYG, going to get a boat load of stick tonight from the dudes at my local ruby house tonight.Owner is manure fan and his side kick is a scouser….FFS!
Were Spain at home last night..?
Have dropped him a line SYG….!
Abou Diaby says his passion for football kept him going through the dark days of last season.
The French midfielder struggled with injury throughout the 2011/12 campaign, and was restricted to just five first-team appearances for the Gunners.
Added to a series of fitness problems since he joined the Club in 2006, such disappointment might have been terminal for a lesser character – but the 26-year-old says positive thinking helped ensure that he feels fit and focused for the new campaign.
βItβs never easy to deal with these situations,β Diaby told the Official Matchday Programme. βI love football, love playing the game, and just want to enjoy it.
“When you canβt do that itβs obviously really difficult, but what makes me stay focused is the passion I have for what Iβm doing. Every morning when I wake up Iβm really happy to drive in to the training ground, come what may. I always wanted to play football at a high level so no matter what happened, if I was having a bad time I would just look forward constantly.
βAt times like that itβs really important to have support from your manager, team-mates and the staff. I have to say thanks to all of them, because theyβve helped me a lot and I really appreciate it.β
Diaby featured in all four of the Gunnersβ pre-season games in Asia and Cologne, and believes that he is in ideal shape to make the impact that his talent has always suggested he is capable of.
βIβve had a successful pre-season, Iβve been fit for every training session so far and Iβm really happy with how things have gone,” he said.
βIf you want to get through the whole year you need to have a good pre-season, and I havenβt had one like this for a long time. Iβm really glad about that, and hope that the work Iβve done will see me through all of the season.β
Hi WATH.Spain were in Puerto rico.
Pele Gotze is 87 from 83 despite not playing at all last season.
Gotze played but not much.Despite jack not playing how can they drop his stats like that?
Lee -SNAP
Not only has our Bangl-house a got a Man Utd fan owner …
The waiter behind the bar is a Liverpool fan… and as I said earlier – he’s a right earwigging pervert…
..I can just about cope with Van Persie leaving as its not just bad business for us but very very, very bad business for them
I just hope Sahin don’t go to Liverpool ….
Wenger: “We are not interested in Llorente”
We don’t need Llorente do we?
You can buy two players, obviously not messi/ronaldo but within AFC’s budget. Who are they? Answers please peeps…
FIFA is weird like that though KT. It took ages for them to rate Kos above 80.
As for Llorente, I doubt it. He’s too simialr to Giroud, will cost a lot more and I doubt he’s better.
I want someone in the Jovetic mould. Wenger may go for Isco. Is this a good time to go back in for Belhanda?! Lol, wishful thinking I know.
Arsene Wenger βI would have preferred to sell RVP to PSG instead of Man Utdβ
Where did you pick that up KTR7?
Not that I’m bothered – llorente looks a good striker – but he’s a very aggressively ariel type player – a plan B type player.
… Arsenal only have Plan A type strikers …
…Park and Chamakh are more Plan sitting on the bench and creaming their employer type players.
Fuck, can’t believe that Chamakh and Park are still here. Even worse, they probably both won’t leave this summer π
Didn’t Blackburn for some reason want Chamakh?
And Park we still have no idea what sort of player he is.
Surely Pig head Allardyce wants some of our shite?
Pig head?
Lol. Where did that come from, Lee?
http://twitter.com/ZineAFC/status/236103002325389312/photo/1
Isn’t that …. Isn’t that ….Isn’t that ….Isn’t that ….Isn’t that ….Isn’t that ….Isn’t that ….Isn’t that ….Isn’t that ….Isn’t that ….Isn’t that ….Isn’t that ….Isn’t that ….Giggsy Wigsy
Looooooool, Kev you sick man!!
We’ve always called him that…it started with Ham Allardyce and snowballed!
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Also thinking M’Vila to Spurs makes no sense. They already have Parker, fat boy Huddlestone and Sandro. Moutinho is more the type of midfielder I envisage they’ll be after.
http://twitter.com/PrincePoldiAFC/status/235889529842724865/photo/1
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Is Giggs on her tail? Or will she be on his…………????
Is that why RvP chose Man chest her!!!
Kev you’re on one today mate!
Afternoon all – we sold anyone π π
RP, you just gotta go with the flow mate… π
Rico….. Topical…. π
Loving all the pictures π
It’s gone very quiet over Sahin…….
Wonder if Arsenal are re-doubling their efforts to get him after agreeing to sell Song?
Haha, definitely Kev!
In other news, looks like Vermaelen will be made permanent captain. Hope vice-captain goes to either Sagna/Kos.
I thought so kev π
Afternoon all.
Time to move on with the 3rd Team okay.
Good post AK, high everyone. Glad RVP is leaving finally shame it’s MU. Clearly money is all that footballers care about these days. Only concern (almost certainly) Wenger won’t reinvest this money. Are we strong enough without RVP? I guess we’ll see. To be honest with a DM and right back in I’d be quite contented. As long as Walcott signs that is..
gunnerstuffβ@gunnerstuff
Vermaelen: “I’ve no intention of leaving. I feel at home in ΒLondon and I feel I’ve become a real Gunner. Arsenal’s my club.”
Cheers Sam, i wrote it yesterday afternoon, don’t know why, that’s just the way it came out….
Samuel J Cβ@samuelj29060
Wenger bought Anelka Overmars Petit Henry Vieira Cesc RVP Kolo Adebayor + Nasri for Β£42m. Wenger sold them for Β£206m.
I hope you’re right Kev. I genuinely thought that about RVP too..
Why does Fran Merida need to voice an opinion on Alex Song π
Very good post rico,sums up how I feel about Rvp…..
as you may have guested I was convinced he would stay,
I don’t have any inside info at arsenal anymore,but I know a lot of players,coaches,scouts and managers through my involvement in football,so I get some good opinions from people in the know.
What I know for a fact is Robin did not want to leave Arsenal,Tommy V is Robins best mate,he hinted what Robin had said to him,what I have been told is,Robins gutted to be leaving his dream club.
I’am sure in time it will all come out in the wash.
Somethink I do know is,wenger scouts a player for a long time,Cazorla was to replace Nasri,but he waited to long and lost him bought Arteta instead,he always has a back up player to fall on,you can’t believe anythink he says to the press,
Wenger may not play football any more,but he sure knows how to duck,dive and swerve a bit.
Hello to all.
Still pretty angry at RVP but at least it’s over! The quote at the top of the article proves what a lying money grabbing c**t he really was.
If song goes I won’t be too bothered.
Read somewhere Wenger saying no more strikers coming in. If we sign an RB and a DM I for one will be fairly pleased with the squad for this year.
Hi fred – it’s Kevs post today…
That’s interesting, especially with all that the BBC have reported.
Yer sorry Kev,well done mate
Fred – why did AW let him go then? If RVP really wanted to stay wouldn’t AW just get him to sign a new deal? So he made a badly advised statement on his web-site. He is still a top quality player.
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There you go
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Sorry, just mastered it
I believe that the best messge that Arsenal players can send to all those disloyal players is simply….just win the 2012/13 title.
It may be short-term pain; but Wenger and Gazidis shoudl get their act togetehr now and get rid of those contract rebels who still refuse to sign a cotnract extension.
Theo?
SIgn now or f**k off to Liveprool or Chelski.
Song?
Hope it is true and he signs for Barca this week.
Time for ALL PLAYERS to commit to Arsenal and pull together to rebuild this 3rd Team.
Without commitments, without the passion to play for Arsenal and plan to stay on for teh enxt 4 years and more, then there is no hope of building a 3rd team…..and every eyar, we are jsut treated with contempt by marquee clubs as a feeder club with a price on any of their players.
Like Arsenal Professional Footbaler SUpermarket whose motto is:
“Just meet our valuation and the player is yours!”
Let’s be very clear as I am all for teh Youth Porject, the “Ajax Model of Team Building”.
But it si rpeugnant to con all the fans after enduring 7 trophyless seasons with promises after promsies..only to see players we nurtured at a veyr young age of 16 year old..and those we bought at 17 to 21-yea rold, nurtured them for 3 years or more……only to see them leave with the club reaping a lucrative profits…..
No wonder Kroenke loves this club……a manager who turned lead into gold and generating handsome profits every eyar without fail.
Time for Arsenal fans to ask themselves:
You wnat glorie sor you wnat tor ead a nice FInancial Statement ewvery eyar..bragging to all yourr ival supporters:
Hey, we made 50-mil every year..and you lots lost 50-mil every year!”
Apparently, the new bragging rights fro Arsenal fans nowadays is:
“MY club makes more profit than your club every year.”
SYG..how the ehck you post picture and vidoe over here?
Rico, a quick 5 steps Lesson for Dummies “How to Post Vidoe and Image at HH”?
afternoon all…I’m over it now.
Hiya Merlin. We’ll be okay mate.
Like I said – bad business by us, but really, really bad business by Man Utd.
Some people forget that we also sold George Graham to Man Utd as Alan Ball had taken his place in the side ….
Hi Merlin – no chance re the lessons π
MC – money……
SYG, hahaha, Plug i presume?!
I’m gonna enjoy my ruby tonight…
Me too bondex π
Syg, I reckon you are right there, not good for us to be seen selling but hey, how many games/seasons will they get for their investment??
http://twitter.com/AnthonyShaw_/status/235877590349529088/photo/1
I wouldn’t wish that on Rvp……
Even if he scores against us next season Rico…. π
D β@AFCAMDEN
Some positive news: Jack Wilshere is continuing his rehabilitation with outdoor running. Going really well and in great spirits. #AFC
Also Jack Wilshere ‘Wants the number 10 shirt’!
WeAreArsenal β@WeAreAFC
“Podolski’s got one of the best shots I’ve ever seen” – Oxlade-Chamberlain. #Promising
RVP β itβs just that Nic Anelka thing all over again
By Tony Attwood
I appreciate that to many Arsenal fans of a younger vintage, or perhaps converted to the cause by the success and high profile brought to the club by Arsène Wenger, might not remember or even know that once upon a time we had a forward called Nic Anelka.
But Anelka is important in the history of Arsenal, because he established a pattern that we have seen repeated many times since β and which we are seeing now with RVP and his transfer. A pattern which, in fact, has been the bedrock of Arsenalβs success in staying in touch with the Billionaire clubs.
In February 1997, Nic Anelka aged 17 joined Arsenal for a fee, eventually agreed at Β£500,000. When Wright was injured Anelka took over and was significant in the Double win in 1997/8. Indeed he scored in the Cup Final β which endeared him to many hearts, despite his seeming lack of interest in the club or its fans. ( I can remember watching Anelka score for Arsenal at Coventry, and seeing his total lack of celebration or enthusiasm as he trudged back to the half way line, saying to my mate Roger, βthat kid has real personality problems.β Not my most definitive psychological profile, but one that was made long before we started calling the lad βLe Sulkβ.
Having won PFA Young Player of the Year Anelka demanded a huge hike in salary (I seem to remember his brother was his agent) and all sorts of other stuff too β so Arsenal transferred the lad to Real Madrid in the summer of 1999 for Β£22.3 million. He won the Champs League with them, but quickly fell out of favour and started his tour of the clubs of Europe, as Real Mad threw away some money transferring him back to PSG, who in turn ended up paying about 30 times what they had sold him for, eventually selling him on once again for less.
Rico,i wish him everything i wish all manure players….ak the picture doesnt bother me…..rotten vile poison bought on wednesday, injured on monday..that is the end of rotten vile poison
This βsell a player on for a mega profit while bringing in the next likely ladβ was new to us then and seemed curious. And what we now see as the normal βArsenal is a selling clubβ nonsense, was started up by rivals for the first time.
However what us old timers remember is that Arsenal used a bit of the Anelka cash to build the new training facilities, which were the foundation of our new youth policy. Oh and we used half of it to buy Thierry Henry in the same transfer window. (T Henry worth half N Anelka! Amazing!)
The pattern has been repeated over and over again, with players coming in on the cheap and being sold on for crazy prices. Even what seemed to be pricey purchases like Β£11m for Henry (βpriceyβ it seemed because at the start he had difficulty in locating the goal) turned out to be bargains β especially when we recall that Henry, with injuries, was sold to Barcelona for β¬24 million β and cost them almost half a million pounds a game thereafter.
Vieira went on to Juventus, who were then relegated in a match fixing scandal β again for a huge profit. Barca got caught also with Hleb and Overmars β the latter being sold to Barca carrying an injury which eventually finished his career. He cost Barca β¬40.6 million (having cost Arsenal one fifth of that amount) and managed just 99 games in those four years β which when his salary is added in, worked about at around three quarters of a million euros a match.
There are many more examples β but in one case, Flamini, Arsenal were caught out by a player refusing to re-sign. It didnβt do Flamini much good β he managed 78 appearances in four years with Milan, many as sub. But his salary of 22 million euros over that time has made each appearance cost Milan over a quarter of a million euros, and helped push them into financial difficulty and a need to restructure to meet FFP regs.
lamini of course only had one great season with Arsenal β his last β but even so Arsenal were, I believe, determined never to be caught again in this manner , and so decided to deal with players who wanted to leave, before the contract ended.
So players near the end of the contract were to be sold on but always at a massively high price, that allowed the club to bring in more money to buy more players. And it was to get this high price that supreme reluctance to sell had to be brought into the mix. No, no, no, you canβt have Nasri! No! OK, all right, because weβve got Arteta for a lot less both in terms of salary and fee paid.
However one question arises from this ploy β namely why do the clubs fall for it? After all they must know that most of the Arsenal sell-on players cost them a fortune, and donβt play that many matches β and of course eventually get sold on for a much smaller fee (or in the case of Hleb, are virtually given away).
(Actually there is a second question β why do some people believe that Arsenal are reluctant sellers β but thatβs for another day).
The answer to the first question is that the clubs are buying not just for the playerβs worth, but also to impress the media and the fans. The media love transfers because it ups the level of sales of the papers. And the fans want to see their club being βambitiousβ (a word introduced into the footballing vocabulary by agents who are also keen to promote their clientsβ interest).
So RVP to Man U gives a chance for lots of βArsenal in despairβ stories, although very little in terms of commentary on the fact that Man U have just paid Β£22m plus four years of mega wages for a player who next summer they could have had for free.
Also they have just paid Β£22m for a player whose injury record is awful. True he played 48 games last season, but before that he was much more restricted. Of course if you are quite sure that he will reproduce that approach again this coming season, thatβs good, but even so, the cost is about Β£60m in terms of transfer fee and salary. Is RVP worth Β£60m for the gamble of one brilliant season and several slipping away seasons? I doubt it.
But Man City have backed Man U into a corner over this one, through all their purchases, and Man U fans are happy because they perceive that they have got one over on both Arsenal and Man C. But in fact it is quite possible that they have done neither, tying Man U into a very expensive player who they will never be able to unload if he ever gets injured again.
Initially I had the feeling that this blog was the only place where the vision of selling players from Anelka onwards was seen as a brilliant positive move. However I was amused yesterday to see the joke going around that Mr Wenger had been arrested for stealing Β£22m from a befuddled old age pensioner. Maybe others are starting to see it this as another example of the Anelka Principle.
Which takes us back to Anelka himself. What was better β to take the money and spend it on Henry and our new training centre which is still considered one of the best on the planet, or should we have held onto a player who didnβt want to be with us?
Of course we donβt know if RVP will be injured in game 2 and only manage 10 matches a year for Man U (while still taking his salary). Of course we donβt know who Mr Wenger has up his sleeve in terms of the next transfer.
Time will tell, but in the past Mr Wenger has been right (think of players from Bentley to Adebayor) β little to no cost to bring them in, huge income on selling them on. The past speaks hugely in Mr Wengerβs favour β my guess is that he has indeed done it again, and that RVPβs name will slip away from the Man U hall of fame, just as the memory of selling worthless shares on the New York stock exchange will hardly be recalled as one of the clubβs finest moments.
Yes Kev…. I can’t condone that in football, even if it was done to Samir Nasri…
I can understand why bondex, but that’s not me…
I think the photo is deceiving Rico…
But delete it if you like boss, no probs…
Just been browsing the Utd squad and the arsenal squad as it stands and barring maybe full backs and back up strikers I’d say we start the season as at least their equals on paper. Chamug and park aren’t up to being back ups so would really like to see another striker added, utd beat us there, they will have Rooney, RVP, Hernandez and welbeck. We ‘ll have giroud, poldi, chamakh and park. Don’t think Jenks is good enough yet so an RB is a must IMHO.
Ricco it seems we are losing out on Sahin loan deal, & to Liverpool of all club? That sends a wrong signal to Arsenal reputaion as a Big club. Hope we don’t let M’vila transfer slip up too. Ps are we close to any signing? Any real linked player to us? Ps update me on details regarding our transfer?
AM we have cazorla(so happy about this) rosicky, ox, gerv, theo and arshavin.
Pretty decent!
Anelka’s parting shot at Arsenal, he was being treated worse than a dog by Overmars and Bergkamp, they wouldn’t pass the ball to him, nothing to do with his money grabbing brothers.
As for your 4.02 kev, that’s why the board are more than happy to pay AW 7 million a year, in the grand scheme of things its peanuts.
Like Syg says Kev, good signing for Manure, but this has to be a better deal for us…
Imho it will be IF AW spends the money on a DM and versatile defender…
I wouldn’t ever do that Kev, just because its not my wish, I really understand why others would feel that way – don’t worry, honest π
D β@AFCAMDEN
Theo Walcott expected to sign a new long-term contract with Arsenal soon. “He loves it here”. #AFC.
With regards to back up strikers, we have not seen Park, and he has not had a run of games so i won’t judge him, Chamakh just seems to lack that final piece of devilry or perhaps intent consistently. given his start for us while R$VP was injured it is obvious he has quality but you just feel he does not impose himself on a game as he could give his physical presence.
Arshavin if he stays could well be the key to our season, hopefully he feels now that he is more important to the team and that he will play centrally, if (big if I know) then he is more than capable of scoring double figures and adding that many assists. I hope that Arsene sits down with him tells him he is important and offers him an extension to his contract and a promise of playing centrally.
Perhaps then he could be one of Arsene’s infamous LANS. I still would like to see a midfielder coming in Biglia from Anderlecht looks a good player and would be the right age and price to help Coquelin Frimpong et al to develop. Not sure about goal keepers i would have liked to see some experience come in and historically this is one of Arsene’s blind spots with the notable exception of Mad Jens.
All in all though we are in better shape than last year (not saying much) and i think we could have a good season with the players we have.
There’s a photo of RVP standing next to Ferguson holding up a Man Utd shirt, and boy, RVP looks miserable…
Wonder if the gravity of what he’s done is sinking in???
Kev, what a wonderfully-written piece. π₯ You know I was soooo late for work today. Ick. I got in at 10:30. Haha.
KT, glad to see you’re better. π π
Hello, all! π π
BS – not sure re Sahin, he wants to join us and not the dippers, let’s wait and see…
Same with M’Vila or Capoue, if Song goes, I wouldn’t bet against one of them joining us…
Agag, you lightweight….. π
Thanks Agag, but Rico/KT were responsible for the graphic and Lee the lyrics, a team effort, as usual… π
Kt, now that is great news, good on Theo….
Hope you worked through your lunch break agag, no-one likes a shirker !
Ricco thanks for the update…
Hi agag, think you need to slow down and sleep more – you are nearly as bad as Kev π
You are a hard man Micko π
Isn’t that just what HH stands for Kev π
Hope that’s true KT.
Jamie Sandersonβ@YoungGunsBlog
Arsenal hopeful of keeping Song, but will consider selling if he refuses to discuss a contract extension. Talks in next few days.
Nicklas Bendtner exit from Arsenal is as close as after the Sunderland game, Chamakh ‘likely’ to stay. #Arsenal
Jamie Sandersonβ@YoungGunsBlog
Song has three years left on his contract, but will be offered better terms to commit. Up to him now. Club happy to offload him
The Gunners boss has spent the last seven days deflecting questions about the future of the 24-year-old midfielder, with Spanish giants Barcelona keen to recruit him this summer.
Song, who has three years left to run on his contract, is happy in north London, but his agent has made him aware several big clubs from across Europe are monitoring his progress.
Wenger is said to be furious Song’s agent is actively looking to move the player out of Arsenal, and wants to meet with the Cameroon international to discuss the future on a one-on-one basis.
It is understood Arsenal have already told Barcelona they will not sell Song on the cheap, after vice-president Josep Maria Bartomeu flew to London for talks on Wednesday.
Arsenal, who kick off their Premier League season against Sunderland on Saturday, want reassurances from Song he is part of the long-term future at the club, or they will consider offloading him to the highest bidder.
The news comes less than three months after Wenger moved to offer Song a new contract, after pin-pointing him as one of the key components of his new-look side – although formally negotiations have yet to begin between the two parties.
Arsenal would be willing to sell Song if he openly expresses his desire to leave at the meeting, and have already compiled a dossier on potential replacements, with Yann M’Vila, Etienne Capoue, Victor Wanyama, Lucas Biglia and Kara Mbodj among the defensive midfielders watched by the club’s scouts in the last few months.
Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/908799-arsenal-to-meet-with-alex-song-this-week-to-discuss-his-future#ixzz23jLNxZCZ
By J.Sanderson
The plot thickens….
A bit like a pot noodle…..
Ahhhhhh – twitter π π
I love it..
Top class entry Kev. As I said this morning though, I think we are reverting to a more stable 4-4-2.
Isn’t that a pot Kev π
MC……Wenger says he had no choice,he had to go..we all know wengers a control freak..don’t we
I would have you know, I worked until 10:30 pm, Micko. π π Quite a hectic day; that’s what you get for coming in laaaaate. π
AK, ha!! π Where are those photos?? I wanna see Robin trying not to grimace holding up his Manure kit. π
Someone (cough *rico* cough) is thrilled re: Theo’s extension, I see. π
Hiya, vernat!!
Am fine agag.looking forward to Saturday.
fred – i’m still not sure we truly know what has gone on with this move….
Hi Will
D β@AFCAMDEN
Jack Wilshere CONFIRMED as Arsenal’s new Number 10! #AFC
Cheers Will,
For Agag;
http://yfrog.com/kijl0jp
Offski for my ruby…
Love the vibe on here today Gooners…
Roll on Saturday… π
Funny, the ones who have had the most torrid time at our club have been the most respectful towards us: Eboue, Almunia…
I honestly doubt Mrs vP is happy about this move. She doesn’t come off as those typical WAGs; and was very involved with our charities.
I am looking forward to Saturday too, KT. It’s been much too long.
How are you Rico. I have to congratulate you, you have the best Arsenal blog on the net. I may not agree with everything said here but you do get a balanced mix of posters.
I have a feeling we will have a midfield/attack of: Walcott/Ox, Arteta, Wilshere/Ramsey, Cazorla, Giroud, Podolski.
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg532/scaled.php?tn=0&server=532&filename=agpun.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640
agag – what are you suggesting π
Jack the new number 10 – fab…
I’m good thanks Will and thank you… We all disagree many times, but it’s not that we disagree, it’s how we disagree which matters…
Have a lovely meal, Kev. π π Hi, Will. It is a great blog!!
rico, three million hits!! Yay!!
Seeing Robin’s super smiley photos, I almost feel bad for the guy! Not! π
Enjoy the curry Kev…
Not bad eh agag π
IF we sell Song, who do you guys want in?
Seen Frimpong’s tweet, rico?? I did say, Robin will be Frimponged! π
Just M’Vila for me, Will. I haven’t seen much of Capoue; and those are the two names heavily linked to us.
I can’t believe I’ve been blogging so long. π π You have done a fantastic job, rico; and you are pretty firm as a mod. π Girl power!!
If I had a time machine, I would love a young Gattuso.
I don’t care really Will, Capoue, M’Vila or the Celtic guy – just as long as they do what they are meant too…
I’d love Sakho in too….
i haven’t seen Frimps tweet agag what did he say??
And big thanks re HH, but….. credit has to go where it’s really due and that is to all who come here day after day and respect each other, they/you are the ones which make HH…
Just don’t forget to click on the adverts every day everyone π
Will, I’d get a young Petit, Paddy, Bergkamp and Henry π
Gattuso always looked like he meant business; tough as nails, and a hard tackler. Not a bad choice, Will. π
Rico, you and me both. Agirl, that is what we need, a frightener in the centre.
Alex β@AlexFortyNine
Arsenal in pole position to sign Biglia it is now just Arsenal vs Arsenal to sign the player.
http://t.co/vgrmM0mx
Back in 20 – need to have dinner….
testing testing
He said “God Forgives…… I DON’T Retaliation is a must..”
He’s been tweeting a fair bit over the last week cryptic(ish) stuff; which I suspect had to do with Robin. π
Funny if Frimpong does get him.
Only one player has had a dossier drawn up by the scouts that we know for sure,thats M’vila
Is Biglia any good, KT??
If i had a time machine, a young Pirlo and a young Senna along with DB an TH
I’ve not seen enough of Biglia to tell you how good he is.
Bartley heading to Swansea on loan.
Frimpong knows how to wind people up; got under the skin of Nasri, didn’t he?? And I should imagine, like the rest of us, he feels betrayed.
I like M’vila but his off-the pitch antics may be his undoing.
Good day everyone! Hi Rico it has been a while. one observation, it might be a moot point. i think the persons who started in Germany will certainly be around (with the exception of the GK) . so i expect theo to sign on and would not be surprised to see song go as well. ah-sen and arsenal never learn. the return to the fans to develop young players is not good. by the time they are good enough they are sold. i dont think the powers that be at AFC cares about that / the fans so this wont stop.
I don’t know Senna, but Pirlo, I agree, is capable of magic.
KT, I always just assume you know everything about the players linked to us. π You and JM!!
Evening All, I have to say i normally like all your posts AK but this one i’m not so sure of. I personally believe that what RVP has done is for the benefit of Arsenal FC. Robin is into his last year of his contract and at the end of that year he would be 30 years old, now we know the thoughts of Wenger and the board about long term signings for a player of his age Robins refusal to sign a contract could mean that it would only be short term and as with any player Robins age he must be looking for a longer contract, also Robin will never be worth more than he is today so it is only good business for Robin, it is also very profitable for us as well. I don’t see Robins Departure as leaving us in the lurch i see it as good business for Both. Robin Van Persie has deserved a good move he was happy in England and has decided that staying here is what is best for him and his family, hopefully he signs a long contrat and recieves a good wage rise, he has been a good servant to Arsenal and scored many goals that have enthrawled us, i wish him well and hope he has stinkers against us.
Evening everyone..
Good to see you SP π
I think we all have different views about RvP and if it turns out that he truly did try and back track and stay after the signings AW made, then I see his departure as being very different to a betrayal…
Biglia π
Evening Rico,
Wenger has been known to make some strange decisions but i don’t believe he has ever let us down, I also believe he cares for the welfare of his players and helps them get the best deals he can for them, by also sticking to Arsenals rules. I must say it hurts me to think he will be playing against us but at the end of the day its just business.
Back very shortly, Fido needs a little walk….
Biglia is quality but i would be weary if he were a replacement for song! a supplement to midfielder i hope !:D Mirallas anyone|?
Kyle Bartley β@kylebartley22
Swansea medical complete.
Boo…
What was the point in giving him a squad number??
That suggests to me that we are signing a defender…..
Looks like Everton may be getting Mirallas Andrew….
Yes it does rico.
Looks like we might be in again for Biglia.
Morning guys.
Also looks like im a bit slow this morning lol.
Off to work….catch you all later.
can’t disagree there SP…
And that has to be a good thing Kt, Bartley isn’t ready for the first team yet….
π Scott, you have a good day…
yeah but he did say arsenal were interested rico so ya never know? but i would expect everton to get him :l Bartley is going on loan right? Sounds like a good deal for all parties involved. he impressed me at stages during pre-season
I wonder IF he scores against us, would RvP celebrate.
No, you never know Andrew….
He won’t imho Will…
score or celebrate i mean….
bartley gone 4 good fairly dissapointed at the news tbh !
Its a loan for Bartley…
I’m done for the day, night guys and gals….
‘Til tomorrow….
rico – It’s not a loan but rather permanent
Kyle Bartley β@kylebartley22
Swansea deal complete. Very happy.. Was an extremely tough decision for me to leave arsenal, but felt the time was right…
Kyle Bartley β@kylebartley22
Swansea offered me an opportunity.. And I’m extremely excited to start my career here, will always be thankful to arsenal for my education
Kyle Bartley β@kylebartley22
Was told my chances of game time this year would be limited, and as an ambitious young player I wanted to play in the premiership…
Phil Cadden β@pjcadden
Swansea fans check out @kylebartley22 as he’s confirmed it is a permanent deal. Tough decision to leave Arsenal but felt time was right.
Kyle Bartley β@kylebartley22
Now I’m here I will give 100% for Swansea. Thankyou everyone who has been behind me. New chapter for me.. And I can’t wait. Kyle
rvp is luck that a certain #26 is injury otherwise he would have been frimponged.
*injured
Evening Gooners…. A lovely meal supplemented by a couple of Kingfishers. A very convivial evening. π
Sir Stevo, i always respect your views, you always make very fair points and this evening was no different…
Shame to see Kyle Bartley leaving without being given a chance…
Hope he has a great career at Swansea or wherever he plays…
I hope you paid Grandad and didn’t leave the bill for me to pay as usual..!?!?!
Alex β@AlexFortyNine
Song has confirmed he is going. Says “The boss doesn’t want him anymore”
Bartley was never really gonna get a chance was he AK, a shame as well as the boy is red & white but as you say hope he does well from now on…! So who’s next out the door..??
Gary Prince β@garyprince
“Arsenal are angry that Song’s agent has been offering him to European top clubs. They had planned to hold renewal talks. [metro]”
Jamie Sandersonβ@YoungGunsBlog
I’m told Arsenal have appointed 61-year-old Pat Holland as U18’s coach. Former West Ham winger. Had been chief scout at Millwall.
It seems the boss is in a ruthless mood this summer.
The bill is in the post…
I gave the restaurant your address in Liverpool Road…
Guys it seems Song is gone.
Jamie Sandersonβ@YoungGunsBlog
Holland’s appointment good news for Arsenal. Loads of contacts throughout country. Can help AFC land top talent. Respected coach.
From a pool tweet…
Mike Jefferies β@mikejefferiesL4
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but Sahin wants to join AFC. Has given them til Monday to make a deal or he’ll join LFC. We’re 2nd choice
Arsenal entrust Pat Holland with role as Under-18β²s coach
Jamie SandersonAugust 16, 2012News5 Comments
Arsenal have completed their summer reshuffle of the coaching staff this week, with the appointment of Pat Holland as the clubβs new Under-18β²s coach.
After Steve Bould and Neil Banfield were promoted to first-team coaching duty at the end of the season, Arsenal have been looking for experience to fill the voids of reserves and Under-18β²s head coaches.
Former Gunner Terry Burton has arrived to work with the reserves, and after a protracted search, Iβm told 61-year-old West Ham legend Holland will take charge of the academy team. He has already met the players.
London-born Holland brings with him a wealth of experience. He played 245 times for West Ham between 1969 and 1981, and apart from a brief loan period at Bournemouth, he was a one club man.
In terms of coaching, Holland has experience at both youth and first-team level. He has worked as a youth team coach at Tottenham, but also enjoyed a spell as manager of Leyton Orient.
In recent years, Holland has been working as a chief scout. He spent many years working for Championship side Millwall, before helping MK Donsβ rise as a trusted member of Roberto Di Matteoβs recruitment team.
Iβm told Holland is already proving to be a popular figure around the club, and is expected to take charge of Saturdayβs academy league opener against Bolton.
KT, from what I’m hearing Song has been causing shit in training… has a bad attitude and seems a bit of a bad influence also seems to think he’s to good for the club….!
Ah the old address… Nice one Grandad π
Jamie Sandersonβ@YoungGunsBlog
Kyle Bartley says he’s on the way to Swansea from Arsenal. Talented centre back. Work to do. No way through. Β£1m a good price.
Also seems Wenger happy to keep BUT also happy to sell if someone comes up with the right money and also the agent been causing shit as well so as you say seems we’re drawing a line and getting rid of any bad apples that rock the boat… If you want out bye bye…!
About time too…!
Agree, Wath, but Β£1 million is a good price and at his age he needs to play.
Think he’ll really come on at Swansea, we may regret selling him in 4 or 5 years time?
WATH its too bad he forgets how bad he was when he first came.If we are letting him go there must be a deal elsewhere already done.This means Diaby will definitely start on Saturday.
A squad that fights for each other and has a different mentality…! one or two more in and as said we’ll be right up there.
As someone said on twitter earlier….
Some of these departed/ing players have been integral in Arsenal not winning things, but its always someone elses fault. New Team, New Attitudes
Wonder which DM is coming in?…
I would like to think we know who we want KT…. or is Wenger going to put his faith in Coq to fill the Song role..? Hope not, as much as I rate Coq we need to bring in a quality DM it’s what we’ve lacked for years now. The whole unit would be far more solid.
If what BBC are saying is true about Wenger telling Rvp to f**k off after Cologne got new found respect for the man.We are going to have a totally different team with a different mentality.
Coq will not be rushed.we are getting at least 2 midfielders from the look of things.Sahin and maybe a DM.
But as far as Saturday is concerned Wath, who does Wenger pick, Song, Diaby or Coquelin?
KT, it’s so frustrating, Sahin wants Arsenal, Arsenal want Sahin, but that cnut Mourinho wants Liverpool.
KT, just thinking out loud here but I wonder if Bould has given Wenger a wake up call… It seems vP made outrageous demands in May and obviously pissed people off and then the statement probably killed and further dialogue and when he saw the players in were good he may of thought hmm ok I’ll stay and then the Club think/say not a chance you wanted out you didn’t wanna sign so off you go…!
Fair play I say…!
AK don’t care who he picks long as it’s NOT song and diaby together they are diabolical as a pair…! Coq for me all day long. Sahin would be a great loan deal KT and then as we say a proper DM…!
Thats exactly what i thought too.I heard he was especially excited by Cazorla.
I feel sorry for Kagawa since he’ll most likely be a sub for the mancs.I still believe was an impulse buy.
I’d love to know what exactly happened in that meeting between Rvp,Wenger and Gazidis since everything stems from that meeting.
For me the mancs buying vP is a case of keeping up with the neighbours…! Not saying it’s gonna fail BUT a 60million quid package is a lot to spend on a 29yr old with a fragile medical history thats for sure..! everyone else turned em down they needed a “buy’ that made a statement but is it the right statement… do they not need midfield quality far more than a striker…!? I honestly feel its a great deal for us, just a shame vP has no integrity…!
WOW!!!
Robin van Persie wanted to join Manchester United in January and told them he would join in the Summer. #AFC
Perm one from three Wath…..
My money’s on Coquelin….
Robin van Persie doesn’t even need to move house. He can just get a lift up from London to Manchester with all the other United fans.
If that is true KT, then that really kills the last tiny piece of credibility he has left with Gunners fans imho…
Graham Hunter: “RvP told Cesc last summer “Happy to be captain but 1 more year of no trophies and I’m off”. Flirting w/ UTD since Jan(!)
KT,after watching Japan V Austalia a month or two back,I was amazed UTD went after Kagawa and not Honda.
Honda is a brilliant player,and by far the classiest guy on the field that night.
Rvp is even a bigger cnut than I thought!Gazidis/Wenger have done some fine business then.
Makes a mockery of his “ambition” comment AK…. we all know it’s about money what ever colour he tries to paint it it’s not gonna work with most people…! He’s gone he’s history fuck him….! Now he’s just another greedy fucker playing for the enemy.
Frimpongedβ@Frimponged
Graham Hunter claims RvP has wanted to join Manchester United since January and called them saying he’d join in summer
RVP is UTD’s last chance at winning the league,as after this season,they’re gone.
They’ll go close if he holds up.
If not,they’re gone already.
Artur JabΕoΕskiβ@ArturJablonski
Graham Hunter: “Arsenal a selling club? They more like a trading club, they know when to buy and when to sell”
And Hunter is no lover of Arsenal…
Am glad he is gone then.what a prick of a man and captain he was.F**k him.
Dennis Bergkamp = The Flying Dutchman… RvP = The LYING Dutchman.
http://twitpic.com/ak9b90
KT, never look back, onwards and upwards…
Hi Kev. I just got home. Nice post
I Know AK but what a selfish jerk!!!
Hiya Adam, how did it go today???
I know KT, but believe me, footballers are well known for breaking the hearts of their fans, RVP is no different.
In fact a loyal footballer seems to be a bit of an exception these days…
Lovely day down in the New Forest having lunch with an old friend. Long day. Lot of driving. No Arsenal stuff even though he’s a Manc. We spoke about it for about a minute and that was it.
KT, DB10 and vP should not even be put in the same sentence mate π
Lets hope we get some good news on the injury front 2moro…!
jack is our no.10 according to Mail…
http://t.co/2b7036p1
Don’t wanna be the harbringer of more bad news, but rumours abound of Kozzer missing Saturday….
Looks like BFG & Verm…
My daughter just told me, “Remember when we were at Disneyland and that kid thought you were VanPersie?” I was wearing an RVP shirt, of course. Then she said, “If my Teddy Bear played for Arsenal, he would never leave.” Nice…
I hope we prove them all wrong.AW must be seething right now that players he nurtured could do this to him.
How kids think CG… if only players had the loyalty of a teddy bear…!
AK, no problem for me if Kozzer needs another week to get fit least TV and BFG are fine together…! A goal from a corner anyone…????
Wath, just like the good old days eh?
I’m still waiting for BFG to get his own goal from a set-piece! Or did I miss it already? I think he’ll do fine against Sunderland…it’s against the clever teams that he struggles…one two and the tree falls down…
Yes mate I’ll settle for that π BFG at the near post will be a nightmare to deal with…! I’m off fella’s chat 2moro enjoy your evening or day where ever you may be…!
I mentioned RVP to Sean yesterday,and he said straight back “who’s he dad” with a cheeky little smile.
Then……”can I get a Podolski shirt?”.
He is well trained,well educated and loves the Arsenal.
I’m not sure which of us is more excited about the weekend!!
When is our kick off time guys?
Good for him Scott.he is very intelligent.
Night Grandson, don’t be late for school tomorrow either… π
I just got rid of cable, so I will be scanning Sopcast and the streams to find the game…can i get a Podolski shirt! Priceless…seeing as my fiancee is a Ramsey, I think that’s the only shirt with a name I’ll ever get. The only two jerseys I own (which I just bought two months ago) are RVP and yes…Song.
Correction…only two footy jerseys with NAMES that I own. I even have an RvP Holland jersey…eBay?
3pm UK time Scott
That’s Midnight your time isn’t it Scott?
jeez KT, denis= flying dutch man, van purse string= lying dutch man. i think you re forgetting one more “dutch man”………….ME! what ll be mine?
evening guys, am over that porky, one legged, horse placenta weaving, smug bastard. let get the season on…………come on you fucking gunners. come the fuck on. yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh.
Ahh, there you are Stanley, where were you last night when we needed you…
How about Absent Dutchman….. π
when you found out RvP was leaving, where you the “Crying Dutchman”?
Goonie the womanizing dutchman.
hahahahahahahahaah womanizing is a strong word KT, sheesh. hey AK, am in the house now so let’s rip that son of a bitch a new one.
The Creaming Dutchman
now you re talking kev, creaming suits me fine….hey cowboy, i had to cry man. he really broke me. he was my idol after DB10 and bobby pires….besides being a fellow dutch just hurts more.
Cowboy try http://www.eplsite.com, or co.uk, not sure which tbh?
You’ll get an Arabic commentator, but you’ll soon get used to the constant shouts of Allah…
I was being soft goonie…The jeezing Dutchman.
I can only imagine…I was really hoping my man Dempsey would become a Gooner…he grew up just up the road from me in Texas…when Texans say up the road, it is still like a six hour drive!
i see song too have caught the bug too…….good, i never really rated that shit head. sell him pronto and get somebody fast…….better still promote lecoq. he is a better footballer imho.
jeezing dutchman??? really KT?
Wow, i feel knackered, was up till 3am doing this this morning…
Gonna call it a day guys…
Stan, be good…!
Goodnight you Gooners
Sorry…that was directed to you, Goonster…the I can only imagine part. AK, thanks for the lead on the site…I’ll check it out. I usually watch games in a foreign language as I only had foxsoccer for a year. I couldn’t justify spending over$100/mo. to watch the Gunners…well, I could…but my better half couldn’t! Actually, that money is going to her ring. So…it is what it is!
If you lived where I do, Goonster, you’d be the “Frying Dutchman.” It’s only 103 today, so I mowed the lawn and am going to wash the cartruck.
Cowboy, under the thumb already, π
Gone now…
cowboy i live in wakefield raleigh NC, its hot here too! maybe a 100 too!
night AK,
AK,is that Saturday or sunday your time??
Cowboy,if we throw in,we can get you a Chamakh,Squllaci,Bendtner and Park shirt!!
You’re a bigger mock than the captains armband lol.
Ha! Peace, AK! It goes both ways, though…but she doesn’t. π
night AK
hey scott, how are ya?
584 COMMENTS AND COUNTING GOONIE.
There you are then…the Frying Dutchman! It’s monsoon season here in the low desert, so the clouds bring the NC/Texas Gulf Coast humidity…day before yesterday it was 118. But it’s a dry heat they say! Are there Gooners in NC? Here there are only ManUre and Barca fans…mostly kids (I teach and coach HS)…I ask them, what part of Scotland is Manchester in? They say they aren’t sure. Knobs! The old farts in town (all go for Mexican Primera teams) really RESPECT the Arsenal, though.
ScOz…I am considering YouTubing (would be my first one) having my dog pee on the RvP shirts I own and then set them on fire…not the dog, of course. Is that too much?
so far none but i saw a couple of rangy senegalese fanatics. cant wait to watch the game with them. a noisy lot but heck these guys can drink.
Good Stan.
I’ll be on and off for the next few hours…bloody work.
AK missed me…is the game on Saturday or Sunday your time?
Cowboy have you tried vipbox.com?…if not please do.they’ll give you several links to a match in different languages.
KT, i broke the record a while back. am not overly fussed. i still hold the record!
CG,you can never go too far mate!!
Let the world know how you feel.
My wife got me t shirt a few months back….it’s got Wenger oissing on a UTD shirt with the caption “I hate Utd”.
It’s not something I thought she’d buy me,but she just knew I’d love it.
Go for it.
I love Africans…when I went to school in London and worked in Japan, they were always the most fun to play with…Pass the ball, Cowboy! Here it is, America! Then we’d pal around afterwards…the Italians/Arabs wouldn’t pass and the Scottish guys just went straight through with the ball running over anything in their path…ah how I miss those Regent Park days! Best guy I ever played with was a Ghanian in Japan. I was his bitch…I’d win the ball and just give it to him…Denilson to Fabregas?
knock knock…. π
Who’s there?
I Love nigerians cowboy……..they have the finest women on earth. christ, what fine specimen.
i should be in bed now…but i cant help it..have sold all the scum bags we have….
Nubian queens! I’ll tell you what though…the Chinese/Mexican girls across the border here are pretty freakin’ sweet, though! Salsa, banda, then happy ending! But game over for me now, though…I’m a loyal dog…to everyone and everything…of course I haven’t been offered 250k/week!
STAN……….. Nigerian women are of the best quality expecially my wife…. π
Bondex…I bit…I was waiting for “RvP” after the “who’s there?” Then I was to reply, “RvP who?”
Same old goonie…
bondie, your wife??!!!!! christ, what does she look like? if she’s anything like lara james then i paying you a visit anytime soon.
i had a poem for Rotten Vile Poison earlier in the day…can’t stop humming it to my self…..Rotten Vile Poison ,bought on wednesday..injured on monday..this is the end of Rotten Vile Poison.
KT, i need a kenyan wife…..can you help me? i hear your ladies are wild cats on bed. whoooohoooooooooooo!!! sign me up brother. be a pal.
Nigerian women…I knoww of Genevieve Nnaji,Ini Edo…and several others.
Am off guys.cowboy don’t forget to check out vipbox.com
who’s rotten vile poison bondex?????????????
Robin Van Nasri….Robin van Nasri…sod the f*** off, you lyin’ pu**y…Robin Van Nasri…Robin van Nasri…in on Monday injured by Thursday!
Sorry Bondex…I stole you thunder…and whoever first penned Robin Van Nasri…we’re all on the same team though, right?
goonie,you sound just like him all of a sudden…one minute professing all your love for the angel from manilla,now its for an unknown in Kenya…
get back here KT, i need a kenyan wife!!!!!!
Thanks KT…I already cut and paste it into my Most Valuable cut and pastes in Word…word!
CBG..as far as the poem isn’t telling us he is a talent…Stan the lying dutchman(RVP)
heck we are dutch………its in our nature.
Goonie…I’m a hybrid man, myself…Philipino/Anglo…what a combo! African women are graceful beauty IMO…actually, I think I like all hot women. I don’t discriminate…beauty is beauty!
cowboy what was that about “salsa” and across the border thingy???? men, i think i ve got to swim the rio grande man.
the league starts 2moro….off to bed now…cheers friends..
christ, cowboy you re a man after my heart pal. finally a man of taste in HH. God bless ya pal. God bless ya.
My only hope is that RVP never mentions Arsenal again, don’t thank supporters, staff or management, none of it. Sod off and never mention the club that paid you to spend 7 years on a treatment table. I’m sure like more other fans the man is dead to me, not an Arsenal legend, never even came close.
Where I’m at in Cally, there is no river…only a fence…and of course Mexican cartel members! Actually, the border across from Texas is far worse than here…in El Paso, bullets actually fly across into the US. In Mexicali, they thrive on us coming over and clubbin’ and partying till 6 a.m. The tacos are great, and the food isn’t that bad either…I used to say, Hola…Soy Jason…Tengo un trabajo, dos coches, y segurancia…quieres bailar, bonita bonita?
ESP…you are right…he really should keep his mouth shut. I’m afraid our players will go after him when we play, possibly overpursuing him a bit…you are spot on…He needs to keep a lopro right now and everytime he comes to the Emirates. Doubling his wages? I can’t blame him…but his derogatory remarks and two-faced nature are hard to let slide.
i better head off to texas…..i ve got to find me a hot latina. its been a dream of mine to nail one of them. God i cant wait. texas here i come.
guys he can go to hell……..we ve got poldi and giroud.
No! I’m from Texas! I live in Cally now…in Texas, the Mexican food is better, but in Cally, the Mexican women are hotter! My teaching buddy used to provide an escort service for outta towners taking them to clubs and the you know what’s. He always used to ask me if I wanted to go to a brothel…I’d say, why pay for what I can get for free? Then he’d say, well, it doesn’t hurt to look at the menu and then have the slimiest laugh ever! Chemistry teachers!
Head to Cally, to Cally, To Cally.
Oh yeah…Goonie…if you’re Dutch, they’ll find YOU. Just have a nice car and dress nice…and it’s yours. Guaranteed…those were the good ol’ days! I’m 37 now,so I had a good 12 years of carousing before I found the one to hold my horses…but it was definitely fun…
OMG now am totally confused……texas or cally, texas or cally, texas or cally. God i need help.
Enough of the philandering, Goonie…this is about footy…not booty! I think Giroud will be the leader in assists…hold up the ball in the box and lay it off to Poldi who will actually shoot! Teach Gervy to shoot as well and we got ourselves some definite threats up top.
christ and am just 25! i have a whooping 9 years of carousing ahead. yipeee yai ka yeeee. wooohooooooo.
booty, footy. what’s the difference pal? its all in the “ooty”
Goto Cally. San Diego for Mexican Americans…Imperial Valley in the winter and over to Mexicali for pura Mexicans con todos…if you ever make it out here, let me know…I should have my passport by then…I was born in the Phillipines, you know…USAF Brat.
jeeez, but i have a thing for puerto ricans cowboy. i just wanna smack one of them chicks on the bum. lord help me.
christ, you re from AGAG’s country!!! gosh i knew it. you guys party really hard. am heading to manila one of these days. gotta get me a hot filipino lady.
hahahahahahaa Goonie! You’re friggin’ hilarious! Ok…gotta do my chores! Yep…two months of vacation and I’m looking for things to do around the house…gonna straighten out the guest room…there’s always a bed here for you! Peace for now!
Gunner ’till I die!
later man……thanks for the tip. i bet they ll come in handy.
I was just born there! I’m Hispanic/Mexican-American/whatever. My dad was a US Immigration supervisor after he retired from the Air Force and never bothered to declare me a US citizen! So after my third passport, the one I used for studying abroad/working in Japan, the State Dept. said they wouldn’t issue me a new one unless I became an official citizen. How ironic is that? Anyway…you are what we call here a “horndog.” I think I’d be a good wingman for you here…I’d set you up and all I’d ask for in return is details! hahahaha! I think we destroyed this thread! Anyway, Goooons unite! Just no more Gooners to United…
You are truly a character worth you’re weight in $1 bills! (You can use those in Mexico!)
Peace and harmony, my Dutch brother! Oh yeah…I toured Western Europe…was supposed to rent a sports car and cruise the AutoBahn…but I never made it out of AmsterD. European daze and European nights! Laters!
Sounds like we Aussies lead a dull life lol.
Who’d have thought we were ever the quietest lot in the room??
ScOz…in Vegas, the Aussies are the ones who party the hardest…I remember one guy I hung out with who didn’t sleep for three days! You Aussies aren’t dull! At least in Vegas! If the Goons ever make it to another CL final, I’ll use my resort points and get a suite or two on the Strip. That could be one hell of a Gooner party!
CG,I was speaking tongue in cheek…..we live life to the fullest lol.
Morning all….
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3558/what-we-learned-this-week/2012/08/17/3312186/-?
Goal.com have written something good for a change π
Morning all… Happy Friday!
Morning Lee…
Thought it was Happy Mondays…. π
No they’re from manchester…
Morning RIco and all.
Mail check Rico?
Oh no, that was a bit of a muck up by me then π
I’m not mentioning him today, going to hard but…..
Morning Adam, just reading it now….
New Post up….
Just been enjoying reading the Cowboy & Stanley show…
I now know where to go on holiday if i ever visit Mexico… π