Cesc crocked, Good, now we can get on with our game!!

Yep, I mean it, that’s just how I feel about Cesc Fabregas

Take a look at his body language; his slowness during a game, his  half-hearted free kicks and wayward shots, his constant fouling as if he wants a red card just to get a ban and he so often ‘demands’ the ball despite being in a position which gains no advantage half the time.

I think his whole ‘couldn’t care attitude’ is rubbing off on others around him. A captain leads and the way he ‘appears’ on the pitch can affect a team negatively equally as much as it can positively.

On the other hand, Nasri, who is playing some his best football we have seen him play in the red and white can fill the creative role and lead with the captains’ armband on. Then we have Wilshere ready and Ramsey coming back. Rosicky has all the skills to play in that role too, in fact we have many and the way Cesc is playing, I’m sure they could do a better job too!

I know it’s been said before but Cesc couldn’t even come out and speak about the team’s performance after the latest poor performances but he could to satisfy the Spanish fans after Spains drubbing by Portugal and he’s not even their captain. Denilson may not be every fans favourite but at least he’s apologised for the defeat on Tuesday…

What’s that all about? Certainly doesn’t show loyalty to the club that pays his wages does it? The same club that made him who he is today.

For me Cesc Fabregas was more of a man when he was still a boy and the love I had for him is fading fast….

When did our captain last put in a proper captains performance? Man City away maybe??

Yesterday I read that Inter Milan have put funds by to bid for Fabregas in January, I read it was £42 Million pounds. Well if that’s true I am glad, we could accept that money or even better, start a bidding war. I know Cesc only wants Barcelona, well I don’t care what he wants, if he can’t put a good shift in for us, lets sell him and to the highest bidder, whoever that maybe…

I also wonder if a deal is already in place for him to go to Barca next summer, not that I have evidence to support this and I know Barca are broke but I think back to the Ronaldo to Madrid saga and just envisage it happening all over again with Cesc.  

Maybe that’s why Cesc doesn’t want to put his body on the line for us anymore and could that also be the reason Wenger risks him knowing he’s not completely fit? I don’t know the answer, I wish I did.

Either way,  playing him right now is detrimental to this current side.

I honestly believed Cesc when he said he was focussed on Arsenal and wanted to win silverware with us but right now I’m struggling to continue my belief in him. If I’m totally wrong, then I hope Wenger lets him get 100% fit before he returns and doesn’ ‘risk’ him again!!

We all want the ‘Old Wenger’ back, well we need the ‘Old Cesc’ back too.

For now though, I think we are about to see a different Arsenal and get our season right back on track!

But I know you won’t agree, so best get praying for this predicted snow to fall and fall heavily. Maybe then all the games will be postponed until we get all our unfit players back… 😉

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Rennie
Rennie
15 years ago

Rico U’re being too harsh on the boy… I kno he’s not been playin’ at his best & that he clearly wants to be in Barca. But U’ve totally omitted to mention ’bout his Hamstring injuries. Believe me it’s very tough to go 100% into anything with your feet if U have the niggle @ the back of yo mind that yo hammy’s gonna tighten up any moment..

Wenger’s to blame for risking him @ Braga when he could have taken Song, VanPersie & AA instead

kelsey
kelsey
15 years ago

Well, I can’t really add much to what i have said, but I don’t entirely agree with you rico.

He will only go to barca, and in any case he is under a long term contract and even at 26 or so they would still benefit from him enormously.
I think the injury problem which is re occuring to his hamstrings is a worry,but he needs a rest.I would imagine that playing him at Braga was a HUGE mistake and has probably prolonged the time he will be absent from the team.

Barca aren’t broke,they just don’t have ready cash or in other words a poor cash flow problem.
however do we want a player let alone our captain who is not committed to the club who pays his wages.I think not, so I must give him the benefit of the doubt that the injury not a move is playing on his mind.

Thanks for reposting my earlier thoughts.

Rennie
Rennie
15 years ago

Rico I don’t think Cesc ever says NO to Wenger.. That’s the best & the worst thing about our captain. I mean if he had said ‘No’ when Wenger asker him to stay last summer then we won’t be having this debate now.

He has already been rested a long while for the hammie injury in the season beginning & now he wants to get on with it. U can’t really fault a guy for saying ‘yes I wanna play’ just bcoz he thinks he might have a relapse of his injury – I’ve never believed him to be a Pussy! Isn’t it the Manager & his Medical team’s job to make a proper call here…

Though in defense of both the player & his manager, his latest split is now in the other leg… some timing!

adam
adam
15 years ago

Arsenal are quite clearly a club in turmoil. The team is not good enough and opinions vary as to what is required. I have my own ideas and they don’t differ too much from those of this posting. The club needs decisive action from the top. The ownership situation seems to be in limbo. Surely with a new owner and board Wenger would become more accountable for the situation. The biggest question is, it seems to me, is Arsene Wenger the man to take this club forward? Indeed, have we moved forward in the last 5 years to where we are legitimate contenders for football’s top prizes? The results against Spurs and Braga (to name but 2) are painful reality checks I think and emphasise how lax and casual the team has become under Wenger. The board absolutely must take a realistic view and ask the difficult questions to come up with what is right for the club and the fans and not what is expedient where Arsene is concerned. At the moment it all feels wrong to me.

kelsey
kelsey
15 years ago

When you consider cesc is our longest serving player,yet only 23,it makes sense he should be honoured with the captaincy,but I don’t think he is the right choice, vermaelen would be the one for me, i honestly can’t think of anyone else, and with vermaelen injured long term we don’t really have any other real options.
A few weeks back 9can’t remember the game) fabianski was bossing cesc in no uncertain terms where to stand at a dead ball situation or perhaps it was a corner.That shouldn’t happen.

Michael Thomas 4
Michael Thomas 4
15 years ago

The tide is turning but will anyone have the nerve to sack Wenger?

Everybody @ Arsenal, Wenger has had a say in their employment from the top (Gazidis who loves his vision!) to the bottom. He’s actually accomplished what Benitez failed to do @ Liverpool!

Goonerman
Goonerman
15 years ago

I don’t agree on the attitude front I thunk he is unhappy because of the injury. But to have a half fit player put of the team and to replace him with fully fit one then the team should be raring to go!!

kelsey
kelsey
15 years ago

adam,
we all know about the restraints on spending due to the move and the “estate agents” saga, and the lack of money available and my take on it is that AW just wants to rebuild with a mixture of youth and experience and then let someone takeover and go forward with his ideas.i don’t believe there is any pressure on AW whatsoever to win anything, just to keep us in the top 4, which may be difficult this season.
if we get taken over (which I am against) things may well pan out differently.

Rennie
Rennie
15 years ago

..hmmm I guess that’s another of those medical gaffes that seem to keep happening yr after ye @ Arsenal. It all started with Van Persie (right?), then Rosicky, guess its Cesc’s turn now after all those injury-free seasons b4!

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Hallo Gunners am Cesc is a great player but with lots of pressure on him for heaven sake he is 23 lets be calm and give him time to heal. His fate is sealed Barca or Inter watever will be will be 🙂

derrick
derrick
15 years ago

Finally!!!!!an article that has said what I have been saying all along!!!!Cesc needs to go. We need to win a trophy and he’s shite at the moment.We have 2 many players to take up the mantle from him

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

I am not Cesc 🙂 typo error

adam
adam
15 years ago

Kelsey. Completely agree. But when I watch this team and see them making the same mistakes week in week out, season in and season out I see why they are not equipped to win. I doubt whether the next manager will move forward with AW’s ideas. Arsene’s notion of pure football is certainly an attractive proposition but the PL these days has very, very few creative players but a lot of big athletes who play largely long-ball. I hate it, but it’s the reality. I also don’t believe that Arsene is anywhere near ruthless enough. Clichy has cost us at least 2 or 3 games a season for the past 3 years yet he knows that he is first choice every week. To make mistakes is human and completely forgivable but to make the same one over and over is just dumb. For me the team and squad are not good enough. When you see a big lump like Bendtner strolling around on the half-way line making square 5 yard passes and then lumbering forward at a stroll while moaning in the press that he might move on if he doesn’t start more games I say that’s a fair sign that some attitudes are wrong.

Erick
Erick
15 years ago

Aw has not helped either by not buying players to help Cesc

Rennie
Rennie
15 years ago

Do ya have specific names on the back of the 3 that U’ve mentioned Rico?

Rennie
Rennie
15 years ago

I’ve always thought M.Fellaini would look great in our midfield.. We need a bigger Afro than Denilson’s, if U kno what I mean

kelsey
kelsey
15 years ago

Yes we do have money now, but the BoD decided to pay off a lump sum yet Wenger spent about 17 million on AA and about 13/14 million on Sqilli and kos who are both yet to prove themselves.

For that budget there are other proven players in the Pl that were available.Given (before he went to city0 parker, even bellamy.

i do agree that clichy more and mor is the weak link.Against spurs,bale got no joy from Sagna but when he switched flanks it was a whole different ball game.

more and more teams know how to play us and as has been said many times before we have only one way of playing and it doesn’t work as much as it used to,together with the fact that we don’t have the players we had 4 or 5 years ago.

Jack will be a great player,but he is already playing too much for his age, and with cesc injured it will take it’s toll on him.

kelsey
kelsey
15 years ago

back later, have a game this afternoon (in the sun) 🙂

Rennie
Rennie
15 years ago

I have a gut feeling G.Cahill’s going to Chelsea in Jan as cover 4 JTerryble.. He could probably end up being the diff in the title race – actually snooze may be more appropriate with how things have gone so far – & we’ll all be cussin’ Wenger in Apr.. (I really hope not)

king gooner
king gooner
15 years ago

if we had a proper defense everyone would see the team we can become-to this end,i would like to see the return of a certain”MARTIN KEOWN”b4 it’s too late-he would wipe the floor with the shirkers & organise them into a coherent defensive machine-wenger needs someone to kick ass-he’s THE MAN!!

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

Afternoon Rico, (when you get back) afternoon all you good people and Wath! 🙂

Interesting comments.

I thought Cesc should have gone in the Summer and said so at the time. Nothing good comes of forcing someone to stay against their will.

Now I feel that even more so, but for a different reason. Do you recall how Michael Owen was a brilliant striker before his hamstrings started playiny up? Once that problem became chronic, he quickly lost his pace and his ability. Sad but true.

Well I think the same thing is going to happen to Cesc and because of that and his desire to go to Barca, we should get shot asap, in my opinion.

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

King Gooner,

I agree. However I understand that when Keown worked for AW previously, he fell out with certain players who did not like his training methods, blah, blah, and instead of backing him AW let him go. (Rumour admittedly)

Another, we have previously discussed on here, is Stevie Bould. He already looks after the youth team and would be brilliant coaching the first team defence. Chances of that happening? Slim or none!

Rennie
Rennie
15 years ago

Morn’ Red! I guess Bould will get his chance in due time.. as for now Pat being the faithful pup of Arsene will continue doing his manual labour (by that I mean running the exercises, blowing the whistle, etc.) Don’t think Wenger ever listens to any suggestions from him

As for letting Cesc go, I kno that it’s detrimental to keep an unwilling player.. But we can’t let him leave before we have an immediate replacement.. Sammy can’T take up Cesc’s role, he’s a brilliant talent in his own right but cannot do what Cesc does in the middle – threadin passes thu the eye o’ a needle. Maybe Rambo can step up but even he needs a season or 2!

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

Rennie,

I was thinking AW could get Hazard pretty pronto (January)as he will have Cesc’s trf fee in the Summer to pay for him, if necessary.

What we also need, sorry for repeating myself, is an Ian Wright replacement. Someone cocky and greedy for goals, just like Wrighty! 🙂

Rennie
Rennie
15 years ago

Hazard’s great will contribute to goals with his trickery, but he’s not Cesc’s natural replacement. The only midfielders @ his level right now are – the one already @ Barca Xavi, Sneijder, and the one that we let slip last season Ozil!

& we desperately need a striker in Wrighty’s mold!!!

Rennie
Rennie
15 years ago

Hehe.. did anybody catch this – “Tottenham Boss Harry Redknapp Compares William Gallas To Bobby Moore” – the things certain morons say!!!

Rennie
Rennie
15 years ago

Right!!! That’s bout the only diff. that ol’ Twitch seees… He squanders every bit (eeenie tinnny bit) of respect that he earns in the weekend by saying shite like this in the week

Rennie
Rennie
15 years ago

They sure can dream big! One thing’s for sure, teams are beginning to show fear against them. Werder looked pretty frightened last night! But I take heart with the fact that their defense will implode any moment now ……… there can ya hear it

T-buzz
T-buzz
15 years ago

Afternoon all,

I really miss the Highbury days, we won games we were meant to win, we had solid players in every department (Vierra, adams, Dixon, TH14, Winterburn, Overmars, Pires, DB10, Gilberto, Wrightie, endless list goes on)that you have every confidence will get the job done. I can’t say the same about most of the players in this current squad or the ones we’ve had for the past few years since moving to the Emirates.
We may be 2 points behind the Chavs and Mancs but we have not been consistent. We have a captain who I feel has’nt been his best at all this season, dodgy goalies, one striker scoring and centre defence needs serious attention!! We have a long way to go before we start winning trophies again and I am fast losing confidence in Wenger and his policies.
Apologies, had to get that off my hairy chest… 🙁

Mukhtar sada
Mukhtar sada
15 years ago

You’ve said it all truth is always a bitter,ñ u forget 2 mention one player dat has no business at Arsenal dat’s Arshavin.

T-buzz
T-buzz
15 years ago

Andrei just needs a proper kick up the Arseshavin, he’s still a talented player IMO especially when he’s on form

T-buzz
T-buzz
15 years ago

Very quiet in here today….
I can even see thumbleweed! 🙄

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

T-Buzz,

I think your hairy chest has frightened everyone away! 🙄

I had a girlfriend like that once, but at least she shaved her moustache occasionally! 🙂

kelsey
kelsey
15 years ago

RA,

apparently we used to sit quite near to each other in the West Stand, but I don’t know your age,so it may well be a guess.

i once had a girlfrien with one central bust and one in the same place on her back.Awful to look at,but lovely to dance with. 🙂

I used to have a friday joke day on another blog some time ago,but they were a little more fruity than the one I mentioned.Rico will remember.

T-buzz
T-buzz
15 years ago

RA, you went out with a Yeti? You’re a braver man than I am! lol

T-buzz
T-buzz
15 years ago

LOL!!

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

Kelsey,

She sounds as if she was a dromedary. Not good if she got the hump! 🙂

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

T-Buzz,

I could not afford to be choosy.

I once fell in love with Felicity. It wasn’t a physical relationship, but her long lashes, soft velvety nose, and whiskers were adorable, and the way she langourously batted the flies with her tail, while gazing at me with her limpid, brown eyes was wonderful!

And all she wanted in return was a handful of carrots!

Those were the days. 🙂

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Champions league winners 2010.

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

You are a tease Rico,

Did Kelsey win, what? 🙂

kelsey
kelsey
15 years ago

Yes we won rico.

We have the Malaga Cup starting on Saturday and Lloyds International are sponsoring it.So a busy week ahead. I will miss the villa game,(might not be a bad sign) as last time i missed a game we won 5-4 at Spurs.

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

Kelsey,

I really feel sorry for you out there in all that warm sunshine.

Ah what bliss it is to be here in the cold, snowy UK. (OK, I’m lying – bit like whistling in the dark) 🙂

kelsey
kelsey
15 years ago

Ah ha Red Arse.You would never guess 😉

kelsey
kelsey
15 years ago

Red Arse,

it is a an almighty decision to leave the country you were born and raised in, but we did it 10 years ago and don’t have any regrets.

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

Kelsey,

I used to be captain of the Calahonda tiddlywinks team.

Well there were only 4 of us …. obviously, and the winner bought the next round! Made the pain of losing to the girls easier to bear. 🙂

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Boring day but rico am not cesc’s biggest fan but i think the injuries have impacted him more than you think.he loves playing and when things aren’t going well he seems sulky.don’t be too quick to judge him or else you may be left with eggs on your face…

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

I used to have a pad in Calahonda, so Malaga was on the doorstep, so to speak.

Loved the place. I went back last year after a 10 year gap and could not believe how much that coast had all changed.

The changes that had happened in Puerto Banus and Estepona were particularly noticeable. I was thinking of upping sticks (again) and moving to Spain, because my work is all computerised nowadays, but decided with my travelling it wasn’t practicable.

With the Euro likely to fall flat on it’s face, I may revisit that decision. In the meantime, you are a lucky so and so!

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

Rico,

MikeB and Oliver would be an unbeatable pair of authors.

Even if he has moved he could still log in from his new abode. Hope so anyway! 🙂

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Hi RA.you would be an excellent writer making it a fab3…even Aw will have to listen.

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

I don’t have any Romany blood Rico, but I am a restless soul and always feel the need for something different, or to move on. (although not as much or as often as I wanted, to be honest). 🙂

My parents were well travelled, for work reasons, and I saw a lot of the world with them too, of course!

KT, frequent hamstring problems can turn a great player like Cesc into an ordinary one. We should sell him to his “own” club, where he wants to be, and have done with it.

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

KT, Rico,

I’m not on strike, its just that I do not have anything interesting to say, and I am such a fragile flower the fear of rejection makes my typing fingers stt sttt stickkk! 🙂

KT, I think you are the 3rd writing Musketeer! 🙂 I only mentioned the other two because they are not here to tell me to shut up. You are!! 🙂

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Rico:alex song posted on twitter before braga game, ‘im looking forward to bombing forward aimlessly tonight.i leave defending to that c**t denilson’…that cracked me up!

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

Rico,

I am an open book! I give far more info than anyone in blogland!! 🙂

Kelsey might recognise me by description, which I have already given. 6’4″, 15 stone (OK probably 16 now) :-), straight, fair hair (ungroomed) and plug ugly! 🙄

You will note, of course, I never ask anyone else for personal details, although I hear KT is extremely good looking and speaks Swahili! 🙂 Hii ni kweli KT?

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

Rico,

I would not like to play you at poker! 🙂

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

RA am not that good.rico tricked me into writing…im like denilson in the eyes of those masters.maybe rico was punishing me for being a huge diaby fan.i write numbers and apart from you most people here go zzzzz on my posts and thats why i like it when you’re around…and speaking of numbers madrid conceded only 2 shots on target at the Bernabeu against milan and ajax.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Ramsey has joined not’ham forest on loan…

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

KT, you are too modest about your writing! Seriously. And I know Rico thinks that too.

You are absolutely right about Madrid, though I did not know the stats until you mentioned them, as usual, but it proves that a winning team has a great defence first and foremost!

kelsey
kelsey
15 years ago

RA,

rico knows what i look like.

by your description we could do with you in goal 😉

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

Kelsey,

Do you know Calahonda? There are those who say I only went there (18 months) because there was a naturist beach just across the road! 🙂 Did I see you there? 😳

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

RA&Rico stop flattering me!am not that good…

kelsey
kelsey
15 years ago

They call Calahonda”Little England” it ain’t what it used to be. Naturist beach is now a refuge centre for the homeless and unemployed.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

RA madrid are really good at the moment.they are flying at the moment and still have kaka to come back from injury.özil has been an inspired buy.di maria has been excellent and is one of mou’s favourites.he spreads their play and i hope w.silva does make an instant impact as we really need a direct dribbler out wide not theo who comes inside most of the time.

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

Kelsey,

Seems like it would still suit me, in the near future! 🙂

First ‘Frisco then NY, to complete outstandings, so in a couple of years we can play in the same team. Do you think there will be a place for an overweight, inelegant, sartorial distressed, ugly bug? 🙂

kelsey
kelsey
15 years ago

It’s in New Zealand 😉

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

Rico,

You wear it on your foot!

kelsey
kelsey
15 years ago

Read arse.

I give you one clue.

We played a friendly international against Portugal two weeks ago in Elvira.

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

KT,

Wapi wewe kusikia kuhusu Ramsey?

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Fununu zinaenea kwenye mtandao na zaonekana kuwa za kweli.yaonekana Aw anamtaka ramsey acheze mechi za kadhaa ili kumpa uzoefu kisha arudi mwezi wa januari.

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

Kelsey,

At this time of the evening, the wine has been flowing, so the only game I think you could be playing is petanque!

Am I right? 🙂

Got to go in a couple of minutes. Rico won’t help me with my cookery problems and KT has gone quiet!

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

Rico i don’t know much about w.silva except that he is explosive and insane at dribbling.

K-TR7
K-TR7
15 years ago

RA Ramsey’s story is even on ESPN.

Red Arse
Red Arse
15 years ago

KT,

I had a look and I did not see anything on the internet re Ramsey, but I trust your findings.

(Your swahili pretty much wiped my knowledge out!!) 🙂

Anyway, good night all!!

kelsey
kelsey
15 years ago

No RA.
I see Wagner played for Bremen last night, i didn’t know he had been evicted.

kelsey
kelsey
15 years ago

It’s all over the place about Ramsey,but it’s only until early January.