The latest story doing the rounds relates to our young Spanish defender Ignasi Miquel; suggestion is that Owen Coyle wants him on loan for a season…
Great news for the newly crowned Euro Cup winner and it could be great news for us…
Every man and his dog know that a high percentage of Arsenal fans see that Cahill could go a long way to rectifying our defensive problems.
Part of me thinks that an agreement has already been made between us and Bolton, why else has no other club come in for him?
Gary Cahill will be the one who takes over from John ‘Thomas’ Terry very soon, he’ll be the backbone of his country and he’ll possibly be the captain too.
Suggestion is that we have offered Bendtner previously but Owen Coyle is no fool is he, he said no…
Miguel is a different proposition though; he’s young and full of confidence after Spain’s recent conquest so if they are to lose Cahill, surely they’d rather have a ‘freebie’ stand in for a season. Ok, he’s not Cahill yet but with their player entering the last year of his contract, Coyle knows he has to do what is best for Bolton and Gary Cahill.
For Ignasi Miquel, this would be a great move too in my opinion, we saw how Jack Wilshere toughened up a bit at Bolton and if he is to do the same, it would do him the world of good.
Reports also suggest that League Two side Crewe Alexandra are hoping to secure our Spaniard on loan….
I don’t think Miquel has a lot to think about really, do you??
Bolton or Crewe – it’s easy really….
Anyway, I don’t know if all this holds any substance, of course I’d love it to but again, only time will tell…
Another one for you:
Lille striker Moussa Sow is sat on his hands and knees begging Arsene Wenger to go and get him but apparently Jose Moanrinho wants him at Real Madrid:
I want to play at Arsenal, I think my game is best suited to the Premier League. It is my dream and I want to be playing Champions League football. Real Madrid?
They are one of the best teams in the world, We will see what can happen with these clubs before the transfer windows ends.
He scored 25 goals last season in 36 appearances, isn’t that the kind of return we all hope for from a striker?
Ok, he’s only 5′ 11″ but the way we play, he’d be good wouldn’t he???
Is Sow truthing or is he just trying to let Jose know he’s ready to move?
On to Nasri:
Reports suggest that the young French, soon to be Splintered Nasri is close to securing a deal with Citeh – well, if he doens’t want us, then we don’t need him so more money for Arsene to spend. Most newspapers report that the deal was being finalised last night…
If Nasri thinks he’ll be first on their team sheet, he needs to wake up – but what will we care eh?
Now we just need Stan to convince him to spend it…
Come on Arsene, you know you want to – don’t worry about how much you spend on one player – we don’t care who you buy as long as they make us stronger.
🙂
Have a good day all, I’ll leave you with this from The Daily Mail….
Morning all….
Morning young Rico.
I think both of those deals should be done, gives us two decent players and we get a great prospect game time.
Oh, I meant to add, I don’t care that Senor Fabregas played last night and won a trophy… I wonder if he’s a marked man after ‘that’ tackle on him…. I hope not..
Less of the young Will, I’m older than you 😉
I like the Sow stats, bit of a tiddler i know but the kind of scoring ratio we need…
See the Chavs had a bid of £22M rejected for Mata… goonster won’t be happy..
Morning Rico. I don’t think Jose needs much more pissing off. Did you see his cowardly ear assault last night. For the first rime in his managerial career he isn’t getting it all his own way.
Ian Wright wasn’t a giant.
I still think we need a proper DM.
Morning adam, good, I can’t stand the man….Didn’t watch the game though..
I know Will, just our side gets shorter and shorter, we need a few big lumps in the side, agree re the DM
Good to see that Fabregas made such a dramatic recovery from his injury, the one that has prevented him playing for Arsenal for so long!!
I agree, I think Cahill and a big, dominant DM would sort us out.
Looking at our fit players at the moment i want Cahill now! ASAFuckingP. We could then push TV to left back v Liverpool as Jenkinson v Suarez is not a nice thought.
I’d love Mata to follow but if not him Hazard.
Otherwise we could see ourselves with 1 point from 3 league games and out of the CL – marvellous!
Cesc already won a trophy , wao !
Check out the ear thing though Rico. It will confirm all you feel about him. If Wenger had done that he would be in the International Court in The Hague. I too can’t stand him but I have found my admiration for Barca has taken a nose-dive too lately. When you consider how these two huge clubs have stitched up the Spanish league and spread their corruption through European football you have to take every opportunity to laugh at them.
aj, he’d have been off if that was with us…
we need more than that Will imho, two CH’s, DM, goal scorer and a play maker.
Jack is out for a while 🙁
AndyT,
we needed him since the window opened, we need him and maybe Dann or Mertesacker, I see TV playing at LB for most of the season..
SD, the media love that….
Adam, just seen in on SS’s, pathetic isn’t it….
I have not seen a lot of Dann. How highly do you rate him?
He is the cheaper option so it would be typical Wenger to go for him
Rico. Yes, pathetic is about right, especially his jutting chin posturing after the guy pushes him. It does reflect a general trend in football though of stupidity, crassness and a feeling of entitlement which is turning me off the game season by season. The attachment I used to feel to the club is being slowly eroded and people like Nasri don’t help. The erosion is directly linked to money I suppose.
Morning Rico….hope we get Cahil though and mata to chelsea will definitely rip the heart out of me….MATAAAA
its so painful,hearting and hopeless to hear wenger saying he will spend if get the right player and if am to ask are these right player living in heaven or what ? please my fellow goooner lets stop supporting what is not gud for us ALL THE TIME HEART ATTACK BCOZ OF ONE MAN WENGER HAS EVER MENTIONED GUD PLAYERS BUT HE HAS NEVER BOUGHT ANY WHY ? TO BOARD AND MANAGEMENT ARE YOU ASLEEP OR YOU HAVE BEEN BEWITCH ?
Forget the strikers,we need defensive midfielders and Central defenders
don’t you think that gotze is a better option than hazard? its just my opinion… don’t get me wrong hazard is good but he has this ronaldo-esque attitude on the other gotze has messi kind of attitude. from latest performance gotze has been showing more potential too. well just a thought both can replace nasri easily tho… hahahha
All players are deceptive,Cesc’s recovery was amazing wasn’t it.
I would say his move was mean considering how Wenger has built the team round him, sold experience midfielders to give him room to be play and be creative.(Gilberto,Viera,EDU,Hleb) just to mention a few.
Wenger changed the way we play to make the best use of Cesc’s talent , he got more attack minded midfielders and forgot the defensive side of our game.
Wao ! we might not like that Cesc has left but the person that would be mostly hurt is Wenger.
Therefore i don’t blame him for being slow in the transfer market , because if we put ourselves in his shoes , Nasri asking to leave is like adding salt to injury .
He will be constantly angry right now that to get his attention will be difficult.
That is why i was still amazed that he could make the changes he made in the defence when all those injuries were coming.I guess that is why he is the coach and we are not.
Cesc can win all the trophies from now on but he has left a chance at becoming a Legend at Arsenal to win easy trophies at Barca call me bitter but the Barca folks and players know he is just taking opportunity of a perfect team that others have worked hard to put together.
They will remind him one day that he left them once and jumped ship when he hasn’t won trophies as quickly has he could.So i hope Cesc is happy and for Nasri , he should ask Barry,adam Johnson,Torre,Adebayor,Milner , whether the money is worth it playing in a club where your position is not sure and where everybody are complete strangers to each other , he has not idea does he?
PLEASE LETS SUPPORT WENGER NOW AND ALWAYS BLOW UP THE ROOF OF THE STADIUM AND PUSH THE BOYS MORE WITH OUR SHOUT OF SUPPORT.
Good post SD never saw it that way…..
SD. Arsenal pay him £6 million a year to rise above that stuff. His only job is to win games and hence trophies. The money men should take care of the money. Wenger must provide a team that wins. If he can’t do that then let someone else try. A man in his position cannot afford to get bogged down in sentimentality. Cesc gave the club years of his career and Wenger never surrounded him with players of sufficient quality to win anything despite having the opportunities. His judgment has been both excellent and very poor. Nasri is a mere footnote in Arsenal history and is quite unimportant. What is critical is now and Wenger must seize the chances these windfalls offer. I think everyone wants to see him succeed.
Hi to those just coming on HH today, sorry for the delay, first comments go into moderation…
Mick, we need them all, we have to score as well and without Rvp we lack up front…
jeff – to be honest, either would bring a lot to our side, i hope we get some news today or tomorrow..
Got to pop off for an hour guys, catch up shortly…
Morning all.
here is an extract from a book that reflected on what ills Arsenal FC and in particular Arsene Wenger:
Arsene Wenger’s Eleven Commandment at Arsenal FC:
“There is no medal better than being acclaimed for your style” Johann Cryuff
But PSV openly embrace “result football” and their unsentimental coach ROnald Koeman approaches big CL matches with the tactics adn spirit of Otto Rehhagel’s Greece. With the exception of Louis van Gaal at little AZ, no one seems much interested in playing with style and adventure any more. On TV, commentators even sneer at Arsene Wenger’s dazzling Arsenal version of Total Football. “Yeah, it’s nice to watch.” said Wim Kieft “…..but it’s not efficient enough.”
“Everybody in Holland is now convinced the 4-3-3 system as advocated by Cryuff cannot be played anymore,” say Henk Spaan. “The game is so physical nwo and the midfield is so voercrowded you cannot play with wingers in front of the ball. In the 70s, a midfield player ran bewteen 4 and 4.5 kilometers per match. Now it is between 10 and 12 kilometers per match. And winger in front of the ball runs only 4 or 5 kilometers. So any team using old-fashioned wingers loses about 10km running in their game……”
Are the old ideals dead?
“Yes. It is more cnrete now. People say winning is more important than the beauty of the game.”
Spaan insists Cryuff’s credibility is shot: “Johan Cryuff used to be an eminence grise. Now he’s like the angry old men on the Muppet Show. Really he doesn’t have a clue, though he used to. He ahs become a bad influence on Dutch Football. Cryuff is unhappy with everyhting and everything he says and does has a hidden agenda. I don’t take him seriously anymore. Everyone used to respect him. Theye ven respect hsi lack of verbal intelligence. But people don’t respect him now. He is always meddling and never takes responsibility……………….”
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The verdict of Simon Kuper is even harsher. “When people retire in any profession they stop thinking – and Cryuff stopped coaching and thinking innovatively in 1996. He’s a control freak. Everything he says has to be right, and has to be proved to be right all the time. It’s like Islam: no development is possible.
Cryuff says: ‘You must play dominant football…..play your own game and don’t adjust to your opponent…..Never adjust.’
But that’s not a rule of football. That’s just his personality. He has become rigid and dogmatic, as if Dutch Football has to be a tribute band to the 70s and observe every single oddity of the 70s style. In the 70s, Cryuff was young and revolutionary and sexy. But all revolutionaries get old and reactionary eventually. In ageing hippy terms what he’s doing now is like refusing to accept that 1968 is over.”
Kuper insists effective football is not only a matter of technique and tactics; it also depends on physical strength. “If you can field a bunch of dwarves in midfield you’ll never have the ball.”
Cryuff also misreads his own past, Kuper claims. “1974 is now seen as almost purely spiritual. But Krol, Neekens, Suurbier and the rest were tough guys. At Euro 2000, Rijkaard was a realist and Stam, Davids, Cocu and Kluivert were chunky boys too. But look at the players now: Van der Vaart……Robben…..Sneijder! Van Persie is the only one with a body.”
Aligning himself with Guus Hiddink and Foppe, he says nice football is perfectly possible without 4-3-3.
“4-4-2 cannot be as stupid as Cryuff says it is. Holland won in 1988 with 4-4-2. In any case, players’ capacity to move between lines means formations are increasingly fluid and less relevant than they were. It is sensible to make adjustments. Even Louis van Gaal abandoned 4-3-3……..
‘The answer must have somehting to dow ith 4-3-3. Ajax is also a tribute band, a ridiculous attempt to recreate 1973. They would do much better if theya ccepted theya re a mid-ranking European team, and adopted tactics and expectations accordingly. If they want to win matches at home, yes, they can also play 4-4-2 and be defensive. But any Ajax coach who did that would be slaughtered by Voetbal International, and Telegraal and Cryuff.”
Extract from David Winner “Brilliant Orange – The Neurotic Genius of Dutch Soccer” 2008.
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Isn’t it a good description of what is happening at Arsenal FC with Arsene Wenegr still living in delusion over what he achieved in 1996 to 2004 best described by this paragraph:
That’s just his personality. He has become rigid and dogmatic, as if Dutch Football has to be a tribute band to the 70s and observe every single oddity of the 70s style. In the 70s, Cryuff was young and revolutionary and sexy. But all revolutionaries get old and reactionary eventually. In ageing hippy terms what he’s doing now is like refusing to accept that 1968 is over.”
I would say that we should go back to 4-4-2 and fulfil his promise to Theo to paly him as a central striker with Van Persie – Walcott pairing.
With our perennail “Horrendous Injury List started so early in August instead of October/November, it is worthed a punt to play 4-4-2 against Liverpool:
……………………………..Szczesny
….Sagna……..Koscielny…….Vermaelen……Jenkinson
….Lansbury……..Frimpong…..Ramsey…….Arshavin
…………………….Van Persie…..Walcott
With Wilshere, DJourou, Gibbs, Tarore, Rosicky croaked..and Gervinho and Song suspended, it is kind of hard to field an experienced-11 this weekend.
let’s hope Wenger will get a move on to sign Cahill, Hazard, M’villa, Sow, Jadson, Mata…..or any 3 out of that bunch of usual suspects.
SD – don’t support Wenger, support the team. They are the ones that need it right now, as the squad weaknesses are clear to them all.
As for whether its Arsene’s fault or not for moving slowly in the transfer market I would say first he’s spent nearly £25mn this close season and hasn’t fixed any of the issues we had in the side (CB, CM, support for Van Persie up front) and second, what has happened this season is a repeat of the last few years…positive comments about ‘super super’ players right up to the season ticket renewal cut-off date, no activity over the summer and then a rush to sign somebody/anybody in August.
He could be excused if this happened once – but every season?
cahill iagree would make a good signing for arsenal he will play in the middle with kos and verm at left back or it is possible le boss might go with 3 centre backs now kos is starting to settle he is looking like a class act and now we have verm back we have one of the best pairings in the prem the way we play open attacking football means we will always concede goals unless we start to park the bus this will always be the case we have to count on our midfield tto create chances for our attack with the arrival of gervino we have strengthened in that department but with the loss of fab and nas we need 2 quality players eden hazard is perfect for arsenal his cousin verm already plays for us with real mad and barca and half of europe interested we need to act fast the next player i would buy is mata his will to win and stamina is something were are lacking you might say we would have a overload of wingers but theo / gervino could play through the middel in attack
and mata / hazard can supply the flair
i’m running out of patient….pls,tell professor to buy players,we can’t afford to lose 3point at home.he should do some thing on time.
Sorry arsenal fans Cahill to Liverpool
Let’s just let wenger do his thing.ok?
Signings with balls of steel. Just a little bit of nasty please! We are far too nice! Where’s the passion? The desire to batter the opponents to submission? Wheres the dominator? The tackler to get you off your seat and applaud and growl like a madman in the terraces! We have a team full of nice men (or boys). Now I’m not promoting signing thugs. Just a couple of hard battlers… winners! That passion will rub off on the nice boys of the side. We fans love Arsenal’s football, it’s a delight, it’s a pleasure, and it can be devastating. But we also love a crunching tackle that starts a glorious footballing move… But we dont have that fight at the moment, that spirit (arsene, i would love to know your definition for this word you use oh so much). Towards the end of last season (and the start of this) we give the impression of not really minding 2 dropped points here and there. I dont care that we are short of numbers, i dont care that we miss key players. Passion, drive, will to win, bodies on the line, getting angry when you lose, winners, players with some spunk! That is what we need! For Christs sake why shake hands and cuddle with Barton at the end of the Newcastle game? And let’s be honest Song was a complete idiot – what he did was stupid, petulant and wring. But even when he was pi$$Ed off, agitated, frustrated…. What did he do? Thats right – he ‘stamped’ on Barton, politely!!! Politely, really. Gentlemen of the game – Come on, let’s get some balls! the fans need to see it, hard, fair, passionate! Its an opportunity to rebuild (and yes, it should have been done months ago). Lets not miss this opportunity Arsenal. Invest wisely. The clock is ticking. No excuses. Spend on guts! Spend on class! Spend! Come on you Gunners!
Good read.it was depressing to watch El classico last night.the quality of football was so high and i doubt we’ll ever even reach that level.the closest we were was in 07/08 but we lost hleb and flamini while sicky got sick.villa begged to join us but arsene said we had vela.we missed out on alonso since he would’ve killed denilson and diaby…:(
Just on Sky sports Chelsea have bid 22 million for Juan Mata and promised him the number 10 shirt but bid was rejected. And another player on our radar is Gary Cahil. Liverpool have made an offer plus player exchange for him. Looks like if Wenger don’t pull his finger out all our targets will go elsewhere. If we lose any of them Wenger should pissoff he is losing the trust in any Arsenal supporters and has lost the plot. The team we have now will struggle for 10th.
Please KT don’t start now am so depressed already…can’t believe we let villa slip out of our hands
Merlin96; Walcott will play in the central this season, he stepped up on Tuesday and with more play like that, he is the best to flash past defenders and slot in a cross.The last minute miss of Tuesday will be a lesson for him he will bury the ball next time.
Adam, Wenger is human we all forget and he didn’t start earning £6mill on his arrival he had to earn it.
Wenger frustrates all of us and he has made so many mistakes in the past five years.
But he is the most revolutionary coach in the PL and every coach wishes they could do what he is doing at Arsenal.
In Morinho’s brilliance he couldn’t keep his job because despite the trophies, the owner didn’t like the way the team looked.
Call me naive but Wenger brought the cool back to English PL and being our coach just makes us cool.We will get there , patience my brother patience.
MY advice to Wenger now is to start adding release clauses to up and coming arsenal stars namely; Walcott,Wilshere, Ramsey,Oxlade, before Man city et al starts stealing them at their best.
I suggest £50mil release clauses, that should send the predators away, i thought that was what those directors and CEO are there for? Damn it i should be on the board and wake them up.Cesc should have being sold for £50mil.
all we need is cahill,m’vila & hazard.that’s it!but we’ve got more chance of signing messi than those three.not.hopeless.absolutely soul destroying…
If we had kept that 07/08 midfield and added alonso/villa to our ranks we would’ve won several titles by now.everytime i think of that team i remember the CL quarters at Anfield whereby we played some of the best footy i’ve ever seen.the movement and passing was just mesmerizing.look at us now…:(
It’s all watch and wait. I wish the Nasri deal would get over and done with.
I enjoyed listening to Harry’s chat on TalkSport – refreshingly honest about wages and the challenges facing a club like Spurs finance-wise. What Harry said was what everyone is saying: clubs are having a hard time moving players out.
Morning all and rico.
your closeing comment should have read.” Dont care who you buy as long as its Cahill”
Interesting twist on Fab’s “injury” – if he wasn’t injured after all, then that makes Rosell’s “damaged goods” argument null and void.
Morning Gooners
Very good post Rico.
SP, i concur mate, if AW lets Cahill slip thru his fingers, i’m afraid i’ll not be too impressed, especially if he turns up at Anfield…
If Cahill ended up at ManCity or CFC, then due to the financial packages involved i could understand.
But if he ended up at Anfield, considering that they’re in the UEFA/Fairs/Europa/Texaco or whatever that devalued competition is called now, then i would be well pissed off…
As with Enrique – we could have had him, so if we can’t deliver the goods between Gibbs/Traore/TV/Jenk, then it’s fair to point a finger.
why is A.W doing all of these days?
Hello stop dreaming! Weak up and spend the shit! If u dnt buy a quality player these time…your out! dreaming! Weak up and spend the shit! If u dnt buy a quality player these time…your out!
Cahill yes. Hazard yes. the other name floating about is Benzema………..Any thoughts here fellow gunners? Watched last night and he obviously scored but looked a bit lazy at times to me.
yes I have thoughts. None of it will happen
Benzema not for me, Messi maybe.
Well as we speak sky r reporting that a paper (mirror) that liverpool have offered cash+ ngog + rehim sterling on seasons loan.
Cahill ? Why buy him now when he will be available on a free next year ?
Sorry folks, but when John O’Shea slipped through our fingers I knew the door had closed on another season.
Hi all any news…….
Hi all….
Stan, are you nice and calm today??? 🙂
We can’t worry about buying new players, we have a game on Saturday to focus on.
There’s nothing wrong with our defence – we haven’t conceded any goals this season.
Don’t judge me in August, judge me in May !
A season at Bolton would do Miquel a power of good.
Imagine him in training, up against Kevin Davies every day?
He’d come back to Arsenal looking & playing like Jaap Stam.. 😀
Hi Rico, how’s things Ms Nightingale… 😉
If Liverpool make a bid for cahill, it may force Wengers hand….
England 43 for 0.
Oliver will be delighted,
oh and Good Morning Oliver….
Hi Kev
Busy cooking a curry for tonight for the patient ;0
Hows you??
Steve, we can’t wait on Cahill for another year, he’ll be gone somewhere else…
Rico, that did cross my mind.
SP, id ont want benzema either, Drogba or Doyle 🙂
I’m good Rico, off up the gym in an hour or so….
Can’t see Wenger doing any business before the weekend and maybe not until the “nd leg with Udinese is out of the way.
Even so, i suspect that tentative talks are taking place between all interested parties….
No news then
Recession, banks reluctance to lend, 50p tax on big earners…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14570624.stm
hiya kev you don’t know what it felt like to see cesc smiling holding a trophy and not in arsenal colors….it was heart wrenching. That was the height for me. I just switched off the TV and cried myself to sleep. Woke up with a broken heart. I don’t remember crying when we lost to barca in the champions league final back in 06!
🙁 Kev, we need players to get us through that tie….
How are we all doing today?
Rico, we need another ‘Grahamesque’ performance by our defence… forget the style, all that matters is the result… 😉
Stan, i don’t know what i could say to make you feel better mate.
Don’t watch Barca on TV is all i can suggest… 🙁
Hiya Will, All Quiet on the Western Front..!
England… 60 for 0.
Oliver will be on here soon, to discuss the overcast conditions at The Oval and how the ball is swinging….. 🙂
Will, not good not good, Cesc won a trophy already and definitely forgot about us because he was so so happy. 🙁
The biggest thing The Arsenal need right now is a united set of fans and a fuck the world attitude. Let the shit-house press write their bile fuelled rubbish. Let fans of other clubs laugh at us, let everything think we are on the slide but……BUT….. we stand loud and proud behind our club, our manager and our players and we make them feel they are gods, we make them feel they can beat anyone and I bet we will be surprised.
Tell me about it SD…..drinking didn’t cheer me up either.
i personally feel there may be a deal to be done with everton for Jajielka and baines! We desperately need cover for the left back position and Baines would be my choice! i feel a deal consisting of Traore, Bendtner, Squillaci plus £15m would be value for money for both sides if we was to get Big Phil and Baines in return. That way we would be releasing the dead wood and bringing in two experienced defenders…What do you think?
Cesc who?
Rico, where did you see/read that rumour about Cahill/Miquel..?
btw, anyone know how Bartley has been doing at Rangers?
The shape of things to come:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14574131
Bartley is injured I have read.
hello
kenright has said everton are skint..moyes has no money andthe banks wont lend them anymore..
so what are we waiting for..lets give them what they want for jag and while we are there we might as well take baines cos gibbs is crock and traore is pants..
Kev,
If we get a 0-0 i’d be happy 🙂
Jj, you took the words from me, just been listening to the evrton man….
Hi Will
Peter Cech out for 4 weeks 😉
Will, its not that simple…cesc with his first ever kick in a barca shirt won a trophy,nashit is on his way out,wilshere is injured we ve lost song and the gerv to suspension. We ll be facing Liverpool and the mancs in a fortnight……every other club is strengthening yet we are weakened in every area of the pitch. Wenger and the board’s been playing us all summer. Tell me how am i going to ignore the media and hate filled atmosphere when the club does nothing to quell all the rumors and counter romors. Its so hard my men so hard. I don’t know how you and steve do it but men I want whatever you lot’s been drinking or smoking!
It came from the daily Mail kev and another Bolton site…
I think wenger is hanging on to get him a bit cheaper but like i say, if dalglish makes a move, Wenger could be forced into action if he really wants Cahill…
And, we will hopefully be able to offer CL footie 😉
Modric out for spurs game tonight, he’s off to the chavs then .. 😉
JonJon, if I would take anybody from Everton it would be Fellaini…
Work-rate like an ox!
Do you guys think we will go through to the knockout stages in the CL…
Head answers, not heart…
Rico, if we play like we did in the second half in the first game, it does not look good.. But Won’t we have jack and robin back for the game? realistically, we should go through on aggregate, no matter the result.. We have a lot of CL experience, and they haven’t been in the champions league since… well.. never…
Ditto ADK re fellaini…
Yes rico, i think we’ll go thru….
It’s called being a Goonerf Goonster. I have seen teams at Highbury that would make you beg for this team.
England 75 for 0…
yup id take felliani too..
offer them 50 and take all three..
then we finish off the window with hazard or mata and we set to go..
I would take Baines and Fellaini.
Yes Rico , Yes
parker on loan seems a good option right now..
Rico, is that right about Cech.. 🙂
Vidic, Rio, Rafael, Essien, they’re dropping like flies.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14573557.stm
Happy Days… 🙂
Ryo’s got Number 31, he should be in the squad for Saturday 🙂
What happened to jadson? Thought he was supposed to sign this week. What we the fans need is a classy signing that will get everybody behind the team…..jadson is not it but its a good start. We need to do the business now…NOW is the time not 11:45am on the 31st of september 2011. I just wish wenger ll move sooner rather than later.
jj – Mr Is, a reg on here said yesterday Parker failed a medical with us….
Yes Kev, knee injury
You are all pretty confident then, good 🙂
goonster, you got to stop readin and believing all these rumours 😉
I think Fabregas was overhyped, we did not win anything with him.
And I wonder if wants to start a new lovelife after his break with Carla (who I think works in London). Just a thought…
chances are we wont be signing anyone to be honest but while the windows open we can dream..
rico i dont belive that..
if im right he played for westham the other night..and he scored..if hes failing medicals then whys he playing..and he scored..
Its so hard mama bear…..a part of me saying get over yourself wenger won’t sign squat the other part is saying trust him, he’s done before with the likes of Henry witord viera overmars etc. I just don’t which part of me to believe. Am so fucking scared.
Wenger already said he won’t sign Jadson.
I liked Wenger’s quote about paying big money for “average” players – it’s not often Wenger is so forthright about the quality of some of the players we’re being linked to.
Doesn’t change the fact that we still have to sign clear-cut quality though. Truth is, we may still have to till Aug 31 for it to happen.
goonster, have you ever thought about trying……
‘transendental meditation’…?
It works for me…. 😉
Jj my point exactly…..there is an underlying fear that we won’t be signing anyone.
jj, apparently WH want to keep it quiet otherwise they won’t be able to offload his wages..
I don’t know if it’s true but Mr is was pretty confident…
😆 goonster, i learned a long while ago to believe anything only when it’s on afc.com…
rumours are fun but that’s all it is really..
Savage, i don’t believe anything wenger tells us about transfer links, either positive or negative.. He doesn’t work that way..
What’s that kev? Does it really work?
That’s the problem Rico there’s barely anything on AFC.com ‘cept wenger’s interviews and am sick of those.
That has o change in the next few days goonster, for the sake of us all….
Goonster, you sit in a darkened room.
You light up some josh sticks.
You sit crossed legged, in the lotus position.
You close your eyes, and you drift off to another world…
A world where Arsenal win the quadruple every season.
The sun shines every day.
Where everything is freeee…..
😆
Great blog. I hope he also signs mata & hazard. We have lost all our creative players. Arshavin on last year of contract. Please spend some money Wenger.
For my sanity’s sake Rico……I can’t take any more of this silence its driving me crazy
goonster
theres no point getting worked u mate, or living in fear of something youve seen happen summer after summer after summer
the script was written mate and wenger hasnt shocked anyone..
still a few week to go so fingers crossed eh..
Fellow gooners…..I have the sinking feeling that we will not sign any top players this year. Reason being 1) Wanker has left it to late in his haste to accomondate Cesc and Nasri sales and to make the transaction for the said players as smooth and painless as possible. Never mind the suffering of the fans. 2) Signing a world class centre back…well that will kill jenkinson ditto with Ramsay/Frimpong/Wilshire and can you just imagin what it will do to poor Chamack if Benzema would walk in the door?!!By Next wednesday night we will be out of the champions leouge and by the following Sunday afternoon we will be bottom of the premier or there abouts. And i honestly cant say that I am surpriced if this will happen…..Hope and pray it wont but knowing what he has done in the past I am not surpriced if it will develop like i saied.
silence is golden
it speaks volumes
they arent telling us anything cos theres nothing to tell us..
Alright kev I ll give it a try…..hope it works though cause am beginning to twitch all over.
apart from lying about cesc and nasri..but what did you expect them to say..
‘yeah we were shit last year, we are putting the prices up, but dont worry we will buy this summer and keep our best players’??
ooopss…
should have kept quiet..
if you got nothing nice to say dont say anything at all..
jj, did you think this window would be ‘the one’, after five windows of pretty much nothing?
Goonster, i’m sorry mate, i’m only larking about……
its better than making stuff up..
the arsenal pr machine is redundant..it talks as much sense as the red tops..
In wenger’s mind ryo/oxo will replace nasri and ramsey will replace cesc.i’ll be very shocked if we buy anyone that will go straight into the first 11.
Goonster, how long have you suppported The Arsenal?
rico
i thought this window was the one..
but not by choice
i thought nasri and cesc would go and last years fuck up as well as our best players leaving would force wenger to change..
thought wrong..
28 all over again..
I think we’ll get a defender Kt, who though Lord only knows…
jj, i also thought this would be the one, deep down i knew cesc would go but didn’t see the nasri move coming until recently – but, when wenger started bigging up our early transfer dealings in a busy window i wondered if finally…..
Then, IG came out with the same as Wenger and i truly believed he would show intent and have signings in before the end of june, early july…
Yet again we approach the final days and what we need has not been delivered….
I won’t be fooled again into think things/wenger will change….
JJ when have we, as fans, ever heard about a transfer before it’s been finalised..?
It’s the way Arsenal have always done their business…
And i’m talking about way before Wenger became manager.
If we hear about a deal before it’s been done, it’s usually because it’s broken down…
Oxo came outta the blue, Gervinho was done ages before it was announced.
He already has bought the defender rico.
Am in my mid twenties will….my first ever season supporting the arse was back in 2002 when we lost the league to the mancs. It left a bitter taste in my mouth but we came back stronger the next season and smashed all before us. We haven’t won anything for six years now but at least we played the best football in the country now we are a shadow of that team I grew up supporting…it hurts so bad will.
Then Goonster, I suggest you relax, The Arsenal have been WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse than this team in my time and we have always come back, it is part of what being a Gooner is about.
Hi TT, i don’t count Jenkinson 😉
Hi kiri, thanks – one or the other would do, not sure we’d get both 😉
Rico you may not count Jenkinson but dont be surpriced if he becomes the only addition to our defence. because even if you may not count him the manager will…..
Yeah I know and am not leaving ever but it hurts so bad…..what if the spuds eventually catch up with us this year….we wont hear the end of that one.
TT – I totally understand where you are coming from but he’s back up for Sagna, hence Ebouie being allowed to go – if Wenger says that is his defensive signing to sort us out – then we are deep in the doo doo….
Lol, the summer of madness for us gooners. It’s so sad, but the experiment has officially failed. Dumbass Wenger, he tried this crap at Monaco and it didn’t work then either. Like Will said, it’s time to accept the situation and just cheer on the team like mad, it’s all we have left to improve this team and their results.
Goonster, I was born and raised in Tottenham when they had the better team and I survived and I have had to get my payback.
Besides will the arsenal was a small club then barely world class we couldn’t compete with the bigger teams then. Now we can. We ve got tons of cash. We are the third richest club in the world. We ve got a fantastic stadium a global fan base yet we still scrap for left overs with wigan and wolves! Think about it. What other big club goes through what we go through
Hi G4L,
A club like ours shouldn’t have to accept this though – still, what will be i guess, the one person i fear for though if what we have now is what we end up with and that’s the man who will soon be sitting with £70 Million+ to spend….
But I don’t think he’d be so daft as not to spend some of it, he and the board know that fans know what money he has….
G4L, we’ll never know how successfull AW could have been at Monaco mate, remember Marseilles were cheating their way to titles that Monaco could/should have won…
How successfull have Monaco been since AW left..?
For those not entered the Fantasy Football League, you have until Saturday to join for free….
Gooner4life we have been chering on the team for the last 6 years regardless and what have we to show for it? It’s time to let to change and the soner the better. The spinless cretins on the board wont sack wenger….they are leaving that up to us and it’s time to act. If we hit rock bottom in the next 3 games we will have til 1 of Jan to save what can be saved and get in a new manager that can bring in his own players in January. I can’t see us buying more than one player this window if even that and it will simply kill us.
Hi Rico,
Lots of mind games being played by Wenger however Hazard would mean Theo could move up front in a Wrighty type role.
For me we need another three, Hazard, another Cesc, and a Central defender.
Then re-evaluate in Jan, and for once we would have money to spend.
Allow me to go off topic lads but please bear with me.its about barca but please bear with me.watching them play their backline is nowadays composed of alves/pique/adriano/masch/puyol/busquets.from that backline puyol is the only pure defender and abidal.the rest are essentially midfielders.in their forwardline only villa is a pure striker.it seems to me that barca are heading towards a fluid 1-10-0 formation predicted by Bilic and Capello as the next stage in football tactics evolution whereby they’ll essentially have 10 midfielders controlling the space all over the pitch exerting total domination to their opponents.to do this expect the few remaining specialists in their team in villa/puyol/abidal to be slowly phased out and in their spots expect cesc/thiago/sanchez to be brought in.if my predictions are correct they’ll play 10 outfield players who are universal;can defend and attack in equal measure.this will allow them to have cesc/xavi/iniesta in the same line up since their entire line up will just be a huge midfield block.any thoughts?
TT –
I think Wenger knows that too, we already have
Gibbs, JD and Jack out injured for a while
Song out for three PL games
Gervinho out for three PL games
RvP out of the CL fixture
We are already thread bare, something has got to give and if Wenger doesn’t spend some money we are in trouble….
He has to, surely??
How many other big club sell their best player every year…..for past five years we ve sold our best players….reyes pires henry hleb the flamster ade the whore kolo gallas now cesc and in the not too distant future nashit….we also lost edu and gilberto. In that same period how many players have the mancs lost. What eats me up is we still persist with dross like diaby denilson almunia now chamakh and skilless shit.
Hi Geoge
We have money now, look at who we have sold already and we are soon to get £23 M from Citeh…
We cannot afford to wait until Jan, we need them now…
kev
ironically we knew nasri was signed..we know hes being sold as well..
jenkinsons a composed defender..
Rico I wish I had your optimism…..or what ever you are smoking;) By looking at his actions over the last few years i cant see any change in him. And that means that he is as stubborn as ever. Do u remember last Jan when he said we did not need any more centre halfs….what happened? Same will happen now Im afraid and we will soon be down to playing the under 18’s.
goonster, they don’t – but, when they have to sell the odd one or two they don’t hang around replacing them
TT – Wenger has been giving empty promises for the last five seasons, at some stage things have to change.
Just look at the squad, it’s down to it’s bare bones, you think Stan is going to sit back and watch his shares lose value?
I don’t, my view is that he wants them to go up in value so he can sell and make loads of money…
It’s Stan i am holding hope on, he and IG….
Ps, not smoking anything 😉
KT, didn’t the Dutch do something similar 35 years ago?
Total Football i believe it was called…
I’ve removed my comment Kt, sorry 🙁
Arsene Wenger left Monaco in sept 1994.
Since then, 17 years ago, Monaco have won;
Ligue 1 1997, 2000
Lge Cup 2003
Charity Shield 1997, 2000
Div 4 2008….
I agree that the action eventually must come from the board but dont put your faith in IG he is essentially Wengers creature. It is not only that Wenger is dithering now and looking confused but also players that are targets must be asking them selfs what they will be letting them selfs infore. they are not blind and know perfectly well what is happening at our club in regards of we loosing our best players and that fans have become restless. Why sign for a manager that looks on his way out?
team for liverpool??
No problem rico.its something that has occupied my brain and i had to put it out there.and if jj is still around id love his thoughts on my 2.55.
Sometimes I wonder how wenger IG and PHW sleep at night.
Love da tune!
TT,
I’m not writing Wenger off until midnight on the 31st August 😉
After that, if we have the squad we have now, Wenger will be
hoist by his own patard…..
Hi R&D,
At last, i thought it was quite apt 🙂
JJ, what a good question that is…
I guess it’s whoever is not banned and who isn’t injured, we don’t have a lot to choose from…..
AK the dutch started the total football concept but lots of things have changed since then.the pace of the game has increased for one.physicality has become even more important over skill.the fitness of players has improved;back then players covered 4-5kms a game compared to 10+km nowadays.don’t also forget that teams today have become more reactive than proactive.some call it the mourinho factor.i believe taking all these factors into consideration barca are well on their way to creating total football v. 2.0.
Ches
Bac Kos TV Jenkinson
Aaron, Frimpong Lansbury AA
Theo RvP
Just finished watching the Tuesday match.
Rico, to answer your quesiton, I doubt we will proceed further nad most likely be knocked out by Udinese with a 2-1 or 3-1 scoreline next Wednesday.
Look at how Udinese dominated the mdifield after 20-minutes when overcame thier initial jittery and started to voer-run our MIDFIELD.
If not for Szczesny and Vermaelen, plus abysmal finishes by Udinese, we would have lost that game instead of keeping a clean-sheet.
Udinese sliced through our cnetre like a hot knife thru’ butter, tricky wing-play with direct and accurate passing to bypass our FB; but liek Arsenal, their final ball and finishes led ’em down.
In Fatc, it was Udinese playing like the home team and looked most likely to score. We may have the most possessions, but we did zilch with it at hte last third.
Gervinho again palyed flashy football, but no substance with hsi powderpuff crosses kept hittign the first defender…so were the rest of crossings by our players.
None of our players in midfield cna keep the ball, dictate the rhythm of play and the knakc of Fabregas to LOOK UP, picks his passes and not the predictability of Ramsey’s passes that telegraph to Udinese defenders and midfielders.
There is no guile in our plays, just simple direct football that is easily anticipated and intercepted by Udinese defenders and midfielders.
We really missed WIlshere’s ability to change the direction of plays in an instance.
Ramsey simply does not have this ability to change th direction of play in an instant, plus te knack of WIlshere to perform a reverse pass in an instant.
If Van Persie and WIlshere are not available for next Tuesday match, Udinese can knock us out.
Hopefully, the defend and midfield will rise to the occassion and play out of their skins to keep another clean-sheet. Trust Van Persie remains healthy and gives us that vital away goal.
Lastly, time for Walcott to stand talla dn terrorise Udinese with his apce, and again, he must score at elast once next Tuesday.
Udinese at home is a different kettle of fish and I will expect ’em to score at least a goal and a chance to score 2 or 3 gqaols if tehy over-run our MDIFIELD like they did on Wednesday.
Kev, you could be right but I still think you need a specialist central defender and a striker who can score on half a chance.
Hi Rico.
So many conflicting opinions on here. I don’t know what Monaco have won without Wenger, but I know they won nothing following his ideal of youth, I can’t comment on the alledged corruption, I’ve heard nothing about it and I know that we’ve won not a damn thing. It’s not going to work.
If he said that he has bought in quality this window in reference to AOC, Ryo, Jenk, and Gerv, what the hell makes any of us think he will buy more/better? As far as he seems to be concerned he’s done what he needs to.
As far as I’m concerned, he has bought one player (Gerv) for right now, and the others are all ‘could be’ quality signings.
All I know is if we aren’t going to go and protest, we just need to support as best we can and hope for the best.
He doesn’t care that people know we have money, when has he ever shown that he cares what others know? If he doesn’t want to spend it, he won’t.
Hi Merlin
Sadly, I don’t honestly believe we will get the right result in Italy either….
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/wenger-demands-life-bans-for-players-found-guilty-of-corruption-804956.html
I read somewhere that cruyff was so obsessed with total football that he toyed with the idea of not playing with a GK…:o
G4L
He can’t cite Ryo, he was already signed and as good as the others may turn out to be in time, like you say, only Gervinho is tryuly for the here and now…
i’m hanging on with hope that he finally does want to spend some money, whether he does or not though remains to be seen…
Only time will tell us that…
I just can’t believe we are leaving it so so late, i’m dreading saturdays game…
The Ladies could go top tonight if they beat Everton at home…
Barca playing with 10 midfielders, it’s crazy enough to work, but I don’t believe it will. They will always need a few specialists.
What fantasy league were you on about Rico? Don’t dread the upcoming game, who knows what will happen. It might actually go well.
We played that way for a season Kt, the one when Almunia was on the team sheet
😉 😉
G4L, follow the link in the sidebar or accross the top of the blog, log in and name your team – it;s free and it’s fun 🙂
I can’t help it about saturday…… 🙁
No:
Jack
Gervinho
Rosicky
Diaby
JD
Gibbs
Song
Nasri (he could be sold by then anyway)
hi guys ….
great post…..
do you guys think that ryo will get a start against liverpool….
Gooner4life i think they will attempt that from what i’ve seen so far from them.it may work for them since they have a golden age of talent right now.they may pull it off but it would be suicidal for any other team to attempt it.
Will,
Thank you for that link, opened my eyes to what i was thinking anyway, Would Wenger mention it if he never had a doubt, i think not
Rico re:almunia 😉
I wonder if Dann will play tonight for B’ham??
so nas looks to finally be on his way out…common sense won out in the end…make him stay in order to run down his contract in the end, and arsenal would be the only losers…
once the 31st has passed, whether we buy anyone else or not, i think arsenal football club needs to – once and for all – make clear to all supporters just what kind of state the club is in financially, and what our true ambitions are…
if the money we are getting from these sales needs to be diverted towards the debt, fine…explain that. if we need to develop youth for another couple of years so we can get out from under the burden of the new stadium in reasonably good shape, fine…tell us that. just – for once – be upfront and honest with the supporters. don’t reat us like something you find sticking to the sole of your shoe.
arsene is getting killed right now over this. if he is being intransigent, then he deserves what he gets. but if the club is putting restraints on what he can do because of the financial sitatuation, they owe it to him and use to come clean and level with us.
sure there will be supporters that will hate it and jump ship. that is their choice. but i think our often disingenous board will find that a little honesty can go a long way…many of us will be happy to adjust our expectations and enjoy what we have now -i know i will…a frank, forthright statement from the club will also dispel much of the media driven crisis frenzy. if the club can come out and tell us the true state of things, that will reduce many of the paper-selling salacious headlines we are currently subjected to…
oh, and i would very much like such a statment to come from the mouth of our majority shareholder. i think that is the least he can do for us.
Hi AF, no but he’ll be in the squad i’m sure and Chamberlain …
Just heard we are after mauro zarate..from what I remembered he ain’t that great. Not better than what we have. Dribbles around a lot without any end product. If he couldn’t cut it with brum what are we doing talking to his agent. Hope its wrong though.
About Wenger not spending, do you really think thats his dicision, many supporters are calling time on Wenger, but if you look back to the last few games of last season and watched Wenger strangling throttleing and kicking that bottle do you not honestly think he would buy the kind of players that your asking for, The man is Mr Arsenal he is like a stick of Blackpool rock with Arsenal going right through him, watching him on the touchline tells me he would love to do a Man city and spend spend spend but he has morals he believes in fair play rules , and apart from that he has not got the keys to the safe.
——-ches
sagna-koz-tv-jenks
–frimp—rambo
theo–arsh—ryo
——rvp
I have to agree with you Oliver, it is time for transparency from the club.
Oliver great comment, in my opinion, we dissagree quite a lot but not on this one.
I agree with you as well Steve P.
thanks guys…honesty and transparency would have served us well a couple of seasons ago. i really think we would not be in such a state if the board – instead of wanting it both ways – was frank and honest about what is available for the squad, and what direction we are taking for the next few years…
things are rarely black and white, but as i see it, either arsene is intransigent and refuses to bring in quality experience. or the board is hiding behind that perception and allowing our manager to – in the infamous words of john d. erlichman – to “twist slowly, slowly, in the wind”…
which is it, mr. kroenke?
sorry, mis-spelled the name of president nixon’s former advisor for domestic affairs there. the quote itself – unlike many attributed to our manager – is accurate…
Hi oliver, top comment…
i’d love the truth out about the finances, then we could stop all the speculating about how well off we are, or not as the case may be…
Problem is, if we say we have no cash, players we have will want to leave and no one will want to come to a poor club so the board are between a rock and a hard place.
jj, we only differ on one then 😉
I think Lansbury could give us a little bit of afc in the midfield, like Jack does but with not so much skill as he has…
hi ricco…if the club cannot see what all this is doing the supporters, i will say that the people running it are unfit to do so…
too often our board acts like they have things to hide. i believe because this is because they want it both ways: they don’t want to spend, yet want to give the illusion that we have money and can invest. probably a desire to sell tickets contributes this…but it needs to stop – now. they need to level with us, so we can ajust expectations, stop worrying about collateral issues, and get on with the business of rooting for our team. how can they not see what this is doing to everyone?
I can remember reading about restrictions on the managers spending in order to get the finances for our stadium, but i don’t believe it stated for how long, but i would assume till the loan was paid off
SP, that is half the problem though, IG says we have money so all we can go on is AW is ‘choosing’ not to spend it…
Maybe if we knew the truth we’d stop getting the mixed messages..
I’m not sure I believe that Arsene is Mr Arsenal, not one bit….
But you know the old saying “never assume”
thanks Will
I believe Wenger is obsessed with the idea of RInus Michels” Ajax Model of Team Building” where you build a team from scratch, starting at Hale End Academy where a group of 9 years old, playing together from creche to senior team, all friends on-and-off-the pitch, joyously playing for each other with harmony in the dressing room.
Hence his reluctance to buy expensive players as a football purist will display repugnance on financial doping in buying expensive players to buy titles and trophies.
In his early days, the money he spent in buying VIeira, Henry and Pires are the equivalent of 25+ mil transfer fees in today’s money.
As long as Wenegr is aorund, we have to learn to live with him in his obsession to hand-pick, nurture, coach and mentor a group of 9 to 16 year old youngsters into a TEAM.
His 3rd team in Fabregas had jsut went belly-up, dead as a dodo.
Now, he has the nucleus of a 4th TEAM to work on, hopefully with an English Spine this time.
SUpporting Arsene Wenger’s Arsenal team is an emotional roller coaster ride with all its exhilarating emotional high and depressive pits.
Just hold tight and enjoy the Ride!
Then we are in dissagreement Rico, make a friend and lose one just as quick not my day
Spot on again oliver…
I know perhaps i am asking for too much but what i really don’t understand is why AU and Stan cannot work together – AU owns a big chunk of the club (shares) still it just seems such a waste…
will, i think the players are generally aware that cash may be limited…or, that we may be flush with cash.
an up-front, honest concession that we have no money will make arsene’s job of focusing on youth and developing players so much easier. and it will allow the supporters to adjust our expectations for competing/trophies accordingly. to me, i would take that – even if the cost would be the likes of robin, theo, jack, szczesny and tv following our recent departures out the door. there would be no more illusion that we can win the league/cl under these conditions – that alone would be a significant black cloud lifted…
sure, some supporters will hate it…to any of them, i would say that is a “you” (i.e. not the club’s, not mine) problem…i think the club will find that a lot more supporters would accept and understand.
there will be other thorny issues – such as ticket hikes – to deal with, but they have a better chance of being resolved in an atmosphere of honesty and open-ness, rather than in one of deceit and perpetual mistrust…
😆 SP, not this one….
Merlin
Arsene just doesn’t believe in paying crazy prices for any one player and i agree with that principle, i know we all have our ouw ‘fantassy ideas’ as to who we would want him to buy but i don’t think any of us want him to pay 40Million on one player…
Personally, I just hope he spends £50M and buys four players 😉
the other side of this argument is that the board comes clean that there is plenty of cash available to strengthen the side, and that it has been made available to arsene and that he has chosen not to invest in quality and experience for the first team…if this is the case – and we must allow for this possibility – then arsene makes his position virtually untenable…
Guys/Gals – time for me to shoot – evening duties for me, catch up later i hope..
SP, thanks for the email, i’ll sort it to post tomorrow 🙂
oliver – he’d be gone within weeks if that happened….
Later all…
later ricco…hopefully city will unveil nas early tomorrow morning, so we can move on from that particular situation…
Rico, still luvs ya
In all the years that Wenger has been with us, i don’t remember him ever passing the buck to anyone else at Arsenal.He may appear at times to agree on shareholders words but when he lies it show’s.
I must admit i always thought that the board dealt with the money coming in and Wenger had to find his money by exchangeing players but now i have my doubts, maybe some of that money goes to balancing the books
Rico,
Wenger had demonstrated previously that he will spend as necessary:
WIll this season be a repeat of 1998/99 £23m Anelka Transfer funds?
If you all can recalled that Wenger started his 2nd Arsenal Team with ANelka Transfer Funds by buying:
1 – Henry
2 – Pires
3 – Gilberto
4 – WIltord
Therefore the signs are good with Fabregas-Nasri £60m Transfer funds, he can now buy the following players (not all of ’em..lol) to transform the squad into his 4th TEAM:
1 – Hazard
2 – Mata
3 – Jadson
4 – Sow
5 – Cahill or Samba or Jagiielka or Mertesacker???
FIngers crossed and hope History will repeat itself.
Take care Florence
I reckon that there’s a problem somewhere as although Cesc had always said he would like to go back to Spain, he always wanted to lead us to victory. Reading between the lines there must be restrictions some where.
Maybe the restrictions are how much he can spend on one player, things have changed a bundle from when we got the loan and prices have hit the roof
Have a beer Steve, later all.
Henry was £10.5M, a milloin less than Heskey and Vieira was at most £2.5M, hardly£25M deals.
Will, that was in 1998.
How much is that 1998 “£10.5M” in term of 2011 “Transfer Money” with even Hazard costing £25M easily.
Bruce RIoch bought Bergy in 1995 at £7.5M, which is the equivalent of buying a £30M Rooney today.
1996 “£2.5M” Vieira will cost how much in 2011? £12M like Oxalde-Chamberlain??
Will you be my accountant?
Merlin ; Wenger wouldn’t buy Mata he said so himself and Jadson is a doubt as well.
But we may buy Sow and Cahill and Hazad will be icing on the cake then we will be sorted.
Knowing Wenger, he wouldn’t buy two players from the same club he likes Lille secretly, him being French.
So i say maybe Hazad and Cahill.
With my own opinion according to what arsenal fans r saying, if arsenal can get garry cahil, phil jagielka,samuel inkoum or leighton baines with vermaleen and sagna in defence, then if wenger can add ryo to the squad and get either eden hazard, juan mata or andrew ayew and one sharp shooter in front with van persie, Arsenal ‘ll b gr8.
According to Jamie Sanderson, a very good source, AFC are optimistic that the paperwork will be finalised so that Ryo can be a part of the squad vs the Scousers.
hahahaha…harry has not named modric in his squad for the europa qualifier up at tynecastle…there is someone headed for the exit door…
More from JS. The club are quietly confident of getting a work permit for Joel Campbell.
We lose Cesc/Nasri and it’s Armageddon.
Modric to leave the Scummers and ‘no comment’ from the Press.
This one is for you Rico. Again from JS.
Apparantly Blackburn made an approach for Lansbury 2 weeks ago.
Since then, nothing!
afternoon kev…it seems the spuds are covering that one under “injury” as well…
Hiya Oliver. You finished for the day?
Ah the Scummers, now they ‘are’ a selling club…..
And to the Press slag them??? Nope…
Harry just gives all his journo mates a load of crapola and they love him for it and give him an easy ride…
I ve supported gunners all my life and I ve never seen season as this,at least other season openers we had hope and our expectations were high ,but this no hope nothing to even brag about. I really need help, cus I can’t stand my colleague ,they mock this days. But I always say to them he that laugh last laugh best. I hope Aw does buy!.ther season openers we had hope and our expectations were high ,but this no hope nothing to even brag about. I really need help, cus I can’t stand my colleague ,they mock this days. But I always say to them he that laugh last laugh best. I hope Aw does buy!.
Oliver, do you read Arsenal Review US…?
Is it a blog or a magazine???
nope, not yet…i’ll be here longer than yesterday, so i still have a few more hours to go…
arsenal in crisis headlines sell better than spurs in crisis…
there is also the factor that we lose cesc and nas, and are looking almost down to bare bones…it’s wonderful if campbell gets a work permit and miyaichi is included in the first team squad from saturday on…but i don’t think either are ready for matches such as away at old trafford…and the way this season has gone so far, it is not out of the realms of possibility that at least one of them could actually start there…we just don’t have much experience in depth…tons of youth in depth, but at this moment i think we need more of the former than the latter…
Here you bud
http://twitter.com/#!/ArsenalReviewUS
actually, i don’t read it…i have to confess that i am not familiar with it…
i don’t read that many blogs to be honest…i scan the headlines and read posts that catch my eye, but there are only a couple of sites i go to regularly…
I’ll tell what matey, i think we just better be prepared to get our arses whipped at OT.
Wipes our mouths…
And move on…
Get past Udinese and then the season starts for me home to Swansea…
Our opening fixtures have almost been like some kinda stitch-up by some ‘In Arsene We Rust’ merchant at the Prem Lge.
hahahaha…someone on that thread already rolled out the borders smack…likening our club to the bookseller that is currently liquidating assets after failing to find a buyer to rescue them from chapter eleven proceedings…
actually, borders story saddens me a bit…barnes and noble is the bigger chain over here, but i always enjoyed going to a borders and browsing/having a coffee for a few hours…there is a borders a few minutes from our house, and it is sad to see now…
not sure if they have in the uk – i don’t remember seeing any when i lived there…the only overseas outleft i can recall is the big corner store on orchard road, singapore…i was in that store just two years ago, bought a couple of tintin books for my kids.
I read a few blogs, but this is the only one i go on, it’s easily the friendliest [spelling]…
So you don’t contribute to any US blogs then?
There certainly seems to be quite a few, i’ve been pleasantly suprised by the growing interest Arsenal have in the States.
not arsenal, here in the us…
over here, i comment occasionally on ny mets and ny giants blogs…that is about it…
Yeah, we have Borders over here.
Do you get Waterstones &/or WH Smiths on your side?
I simply love a bookshop, there’s something really satisfying about leafing thru a book….
When you was over here, you should have gone to Foyles in Charing Cross Road, where all the bookshops are…
prior to last season, i occasionally participated in avenell road (where ricco blogged prior to starting this one) and lady arse…right now, i don’t even know if avenell is blogging any more. i enjoyed the few times i was able to banter and exchange views with ms. hurley and co on lady arse, but since the start of last season, i have commented only on here and intend to stay here…
scheisse! spuds already 1-0 up…
i’ve gone to waterstones, wh smiths, and i remember going to foyles as well…it’s been several years, but i still remember most of the bookstores over there.
I don’t think Avenell rd does blogging anymore, but i think LadyArse has her own blog, not that i’ve gone on it tbh.
Unfortunately the web, IPads etc are having an adverse effect on bookshops, quite a few in Charing X Rd have gone.
But i still prefer flicking the pages of a book to reading on-line, a book can always [as a rule] go into more detail on any given subject i feel.
It’s now official, Lukaku is a Chelsea player..
Hi ADK, how much did he cost?
i saw that earlier…another one we were extensively linked with. i expect modric to join him there sometime next week…
Here’s the blog Oliver:
http://www.arsenalreviewusa.com/
Evening all.have we signed anyone yet?
I agree oliver.mata was just a smokescreen for modric.
i don’t know kev.. they have announced it on their official site…
thanks kev…
hiya k…
dk, if you are referring to lukaku to chelsea, that is indeed official…to know knowledge there were no other transactions today…blackburn signed some fella, but nothing else major.
http://twitpic.com/682l9v
Joel Campbell training at AFC
Evening Guys and Gals
Has he gone yet??
Whose that Rico? Lansbury?? 😉
Blackburn were sniffing around 2 weeks ago.
Lets hope AW sent them away with a flea in their ear…
Forget Cahill. Liverpool are giving Bolton NGog whom they had bid for anyway plus 14m – no Sterling. He is too young 16 years so the rules don’t allow. Left it a bit late to sell those 2. now Arsen has to rush to buy whoever – no time to negotiate.
Ladies have just beaten everton 1-0 – one win away from clinching the first ever WSL Title 🙂
hi ricco…nothing comfirmed…i expect a press conference at eastlands sometime tomorrow to make nas’ transfer to city official…
and then…what odds would you give that the “muscular problem” which kept him sidelined during the past few weeks does not keep him out of the city squad at the reebok on sunday?
Just read that Kev, wish Lansbury would get on a sign 🙁
Wonder if any talks involved a move for Samba…..
Hi oliver –
and at the same time it would nice if AFC.com announced a signing too wouldn’t it?
We saw how quick they can work when Chamberlain signe….
Re the injury, amazing how they can suddenly recover…. Well i hope the frenchman gathers splinters, how he thinks he’ll get regular starts amazes me….
ricco, i really hope to see lansbury in the squad for saturday…however, i am not holding my breath…
An American View about our scummy Press…
http://www.7amkickoff.com/
Dann didn’t feature for B’ham again tonight, not even on the bench….
It’s going to be him tomorrow, i feel it in my bones 😉
God how i hate those f**king c**ts……..
You and me both oliver, he’s well overdue his chance and with the squad so depleted, surely he’ll be in there somewhere – once he is, AW will never look back and i’m hopeful he’ll sign a new contract…
ricco, i think he will get starting minutes…i would caution him, however, that he had better deliver…should he pull the second half vanishing act we were treated to last season, i don’t think mancini will indulge him as arsene seemed to do…
if city do not like what they bought, they can simply turf him out to the reserves and write him off. they have already done so to adebayor…
The press Kev??
Don’t let them get to you, did you read the article in The Daily mail, the one at the end of todays post….
If not, go have a read, it will give you faith in the press…
thats true oliver,
i think we should have tried to get Johnson in the deal – he’s good, just needs regular playing time and a manager that believes in him….
i hope he fails and joins a long list of players who have regretted giving up on us…..
spuds 4-0 up…i know it is only hearts, but….
still, at least we should be thankful we don’t have a nut-job such as v. romanov for owner…
ricco, i am not going to go as far as wish him ill…rather, i’ll treat him with indifference. his departure weakens us, as we lose experience and some quality from the squad…however, as time goes on, he will fade from memory…within a few years, someone will vaguely recall midfielder samir nasri doing something or other – occasionally – while he was here…
nas himself is about to get an object lesson on money and it’s relative importance…he already has a reputation – and not a very flattering one at that – and may well find that arsenal was as big as it will ever get for him.
Yeah Rico, i read it. A Press tosser on a guilt trip.
I wouldn’t p*ss on them if they were on fire..
Kev, I used to go on Lady Arse.
Oliver, he can always count his money….
Let him eat his heart out….
Hi Will.
I’ll give it a try if you recommend…
we will have to agree to differ on that one oliver, i hope he doesn’t get a game, he loses his firness and no-one wants him – just the same as what happened to flamini and all those before him 😉
Kev – at least he’s got the doo dah’s to take a turn back… But, that’s exactly why i don’t let what they write get to me – they have one agend and that is to sell papers with a glory headline…
Just why i won’t waste money buying them, it’s dirt…..
We are easy pickings because we have gone from winning trophies to just about securing 4th spot, they don’t give a toot about other sides who have won nothing for ages, and that’s because no-one would really care….
kev, like will, i also posted on lady arse previously. i had no problems with anyone there – least of all ms. hurley, who i generally found to be knowledgable, positive and supportive of arsene and the team, without being blind to our shortcomings…i enjoyed my time there and only stopped commenting there because i made a conscious decision to restrict my active participation solely to this site.
can we play hearts next? we sure could use a confidence boost similar to what the spuds are getting right now. and to think this is their (spuddies) first competitive action of this season…
Oi, don’t you go going off anywhere allezkev 😉
no prob ricco…i choose not to bother with him once he leaves, but i certainly understand how you – and many others – see this…
Rico, our newspapers are very usefull, for the cat’s dirt tray…..
Crap on Crap…
I’ve spoken to a few journos, and they are total tosspots…
They love us to think that they’re in the know, but they know F A.
They peddle pouison about my club, that’s why i hate them.
Ha ha, Rico, i can only handle one woman at a time…. 😆
Where’s Lee…. Don’t tell me he’s in the Takeaway again… 😀
Be nice if Spurs get Udinese in the next round of the Europa Cup
Oliver, do you watch Ice Hockey?
just teasing oliver 😉
kev, my guinea pigs pees on them too, i always make sure the afc dross is on the top so she gives it a good going over 😉
That mail article is spot on and when we were on top, Wenger stayed with us despite huge wage offers and now he deserves that loyalty from us.
Don’t tell agag that kev 🙂
I so hope we can get that result in Italy, just have such a horrid feeling 🙁
What about Dann not playing tonight then….
How did the curry go Rico..?
Fish fingers for me tonight….. my favourite 😀
Rico, i’ve got a feeling he’s coming to us…
I’d rather have Cahill, but the fee is too strong for AW considering he’s only got 12 months to go…
Personally i’d take them both, but, there ya go…
Hi Will
I reckon it’s more about what other clubs expect, just look at how many managers have been sacked at Madrid, which is who he spoke about..
Capello is the perfect example, if my memory serves me right, didn’t reyes get two goals to win the title yet he got sacked?
And i bet if jose doesn’t win something this coming season, he’ll be out too…
Wenger doesn’t do the big ‘galactico’ signings and I’m with him on that but, there is middle ground and that’s what i hope he is looking at right now to bring in….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24uOXjb392E&feature=related
This One’s for Will
Keep The Faith….
It was pretty good thanks Kev, thanks to Pataks paste 😉 Mum enjoyed it and a clean plate so all was well 😉
My veggie one was pretty darn good too, even though i say it myself 😳
You know what, i reckon we could still get both…..
I love Fish Fingers too, between two peices of bread 😛
Reading want Sanchez Watt…
What??
😉
Wonder if Mourinho has bitten off more that he can chew by going to Real Madrid at a time when Barcelona have probably never been stronger..?
Madrid could cope with his rubbish football if they’re finishing above Barca.
But they won’t accept rubbish football and coming 2nd….
Yeah, a fish finger sandwich….yum
Yeah, i know what you mean about 2 C/H’s Rico.
Think it might be an 11th hour job though….
Daresay i’ll be sitting up all thru Aug 31st and into Sept 1st again…
You can see how much it’s getting to him Kev, he’ll be out soon, his tactics are dirty…..
Tartar sauce and Red sauce 😛
I won’t be staying up, been there too many times kev, only to be left disheartened…. I’d rather a sleep and wake to be surprised…
Now when was that last surprise…AA ??
Chase and Status needs to be the new Arsenal theme music.
I keep saying to anyone who will listen, if it were not for dirty, oil money, we would still be winning titles and fighting at the very top. We go into battle against bottomless pockets.
That’s life in football Will, the game has allowed it to happen, the authorities in football have allowed it…
Our problem is that we sold our club to a guy who can’t keep up with them and by the looks of it, doesn’t really care that we can’t….
That’s life too I guess……
True but you have to respect what Wenger is doing. Top 4 constantly and champions league constantly even against teams who spend more than us and play far worse football.
I am looking forward to seeing this new style of play evolve.
Will,
I respect what he has done in the past but not what he is doing right now – yes i know on his budget he has done well to keep us in the top four but – he wastes money imho….
We are thread bare, now is the time for him to show his true ambition and love for our club….
And a banana sandwich for ‘afters’…… 😀
Yeah, rico, i reckon old Moaninho could be getting his P45 [Spanish edition] by this summer….
Hope he doesn’t come back here.
The Press love him, but what good does he bring to the game.
Everything distastefull in the game, he revels in..!
I am off to bed, have a great night guys.
With sugar kev 😛
I can’t stand the man, he’ll end up at Manure i suspect… or even Citeh ….
mancini won’t keep all his egos happy either ….
I take it you didn’t like my answer Will 😉
I’m heading off too – another early start for me 🙁
Nighty all, oliver and Kev, stay safe…..
Jam….. 😉
Goodnight Will.
Yes, that’s what i fear, Moaninho of the Mancs…ugh.
Goodnight boss, i’m off to look up Lady Arse….. 😀 [not really].
Not literally……………………… 😆 😆
Kev, yuck 😉
Both for the jam and the Moanrinho…
You go and get an early night, you need one – build up the strength before Aug 31st 😉
😳 kev, you keep away from her butt 😉
Gone now, nighty night
Oh dear, that came out wrong……
Am stoned you guys! That’s what arsenal is doing to me…..anyways hope we get someone pretty soon before I do something terrible to meself.
Stan, what you been up too…???
Make yourself a nice cuppa tea mate.
Anybody home?
I’m here Stan, everyone else has gone to bed or onto ACLF.
Stan, imagine, if Chelsea get Modric, then………. that means…..
that Arsenal might get a clear run at Mata…?
Hey kev……its so hard. The arse is my life and the only life I know I can’t take it anymore……its driving me crazy
Where you based Stan?
I hope so kev…..the silence is killing me…..I can’t remember any gooner crying out for a 40mill kinda player..we just want decent players to wear the red and white with proud. Its less than two weeks till the end of the transfer window yet wenger is still sitting on his hands…I know will said I should take it easy but men its anything but easy.
Stan, Wenger isn’t sitting on his hands mate…
But i think you’d better accept that we probably won’t get any good news until the last few days of the Window, maybe the last few hours.
A lot of business is done at the last minute, it’s like a game of poker..
I know it winds you up, but you’ve just gotta chill-out until the last couple of days.
And whatever you do, don’t take a blind bit of notice of the Press, SkySports or the usual rumour-mongerers…
You actually think we might get a few players kev?
Yes Stan, i do think we’ll get a couple.
Even if we get a couple of players its still a worrying sign. Why did we leave it late to get them…..why not over the summer. By now the players would have bedded in and known each other better. Look at ferguscunt for instance he got a his players early now he’s just waiting for them to gel before they tear the league apart…..am sorry kev but I fear for us this season
I’ll be honest with ya Stan, no joking, i don’t think we’ll get Mata…
Maybe Arsenal were never in for him in the first place?
But i think we might get a midfielder, now that it looks certain that Nasri is going…
It’ll probably be a player whose not been mentioned at all before this summer… So i haven’t a clue who it could be.
Here is a manager whose head is in the sand.Fans and analysts have known for years what needs to be done to make the gunners competitive.Wenger thinks he is right all the time yes 100% .
I just hope Liverpool run riot against Arsenal with Suarez begging a hat trick.This should force him to rethink his strategy.
If not,with the red faced c**t preparing to eliminate him for good,he should ,unless he is totally irrational to see the error of hiw ways.
Well hope you are right kev….just saw that campbell fella. Wow he really looks the part…..hope he gets a work permit. Maybe he ll be our new anelka? Perhaps wenger’s really got something up his sleeve. Maybe you are right kev…..he wouldn’t dare sit on his hands not after what we went through last season. Maybe we are about to see the rebirth of arsene wenger…..maybe its time for the invincibles mark2!
Stan, hold on buddy… 😀
Don’t think we’re that good mate, but we’re not as bad as the media would try to make out…
The club are hopefull that Miyaichi will be available vs Liverpool.
Campbell should get his work permit, & if AW brings in a midfielder and a centre-half we’ll be ok…
Latest rumour:
Chelsea in double swoop for Modric & Mata for a cool
£60million!
Feckin Fantasy Football.
add that £60m to, since January;
Torres………….. £50million
Luiz………………£21million
Lukaku………….£20million..
A big fat total of £151million………………..
FFP…. my arse!
I am really fed up of this ‘if we get the right player we will spend’ comment from Wenger. I guess finding the right player is his job.
Not at all Rico, just full of cold and tired last night.
Kev, now you see what Wenger is up against. When it was only Man Utd spending obscene amounts, we only had them to worry about. Plus, back then, the transfer market was not inflated like it is now.
Because there are a couple of teams willing to pay £30M for a player, all teams say well, if he is worth x, our player is worth x and then only those chosen teams can afford the players.
I can’t personally see many coming in at this stage, I also believe Wenger has sat on his hands all summer, just hoping everything will be alright. Business should have been started and finished the first two weeks of July. And for people thinking that business will be done in the last few hours of the window, why would it be? I mean, who will sell any player of quality with only a few hours to replace him? Unless we pay well over the odd for a player, which i can’t see happening, no one will be brought in.
Here is what happens, its final hour we stick in a few laughable bids for maybe Cahill and a midfielder, they get rejected, then Wenger turns around as he aways does after lying to us for the entire summer and says “Well we tried, the quality wasn’t out there, overpriced, happy with our squad, we are young blah blah blah….”
and then we as fans are suppose to sit there and like it, while we pay the higher prices for tickets to watch a team that gets worse and worse every year. Make no bones about it, this is the worst side we have ever seen under Wenger and he has no intentions of doing anything about it.
I reserved my judgement over Wengers future at the club to see what would happen this summer, would he strip the squad bare and start again, bringing in the players we needed? No, he didn’t. We booed and booed at the end of last season to send a message to Wenger and the board that we are not happy, but yet again we have been ignored. Its time for a change I think.
But Will what happens when we say our captain that has four years left on his contract is worth X but you can have him for y because we have zero spine and would really like any money you can throw at us. Why are everyone elses players in an inflated market, yet we are happy to sell ours at “reduced” price?
Morning all
So Citeh enter ‘Final talks’ with Nasri…
Just get on with it for goodness sake…..
Because we are too nice Paul, I have said for a while it is time we entered the real world rather than still playing the traditional “Bank of England” club.
Other clubs have turned into sharks, time we did.
Will I agree, I also think buy-out clauses should now be placed on every contract, 60-70m on every player we do business with. I can’t believe that when Cesc signed a new contract with us a few years back a 70m buy-out clause wasn’t slapped on it.
Same with Henry I mean 16m for one of the greatest players to have ever played in the Premiership?
New Post going up guys
Bring your last couple of comments with you, good discussion