Morning all.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic has been boasting about winning two trophies for Man Utd, as many as “some” have won in ten years he said and we all know who he means by that don’t we? Yes, of course it’s us but the Swedish numptie needs to realise that if it’s ok for him to include Utd’s Charity Shield victory as a trophy, then we have won two of those in the last ten years as well as our two FA Cups. Take that Zlat!!
Seriously, what a twerp as as much as lifting the EFL Cup might excite him, I wouldn’t be celebrating too much had I just won the game thanks to some shoddy officiating… Didn’t take him to catch the Mourinho ‘let’s have a laugh at Arsenal bug’, did it? Those two are a match made in heaven..
As are Freddie Ljungberg and Andries Jonker it seems as both have headed off to Germany together to manage/coach Wolfsburg. Jonker’s time at Arsenal has been short really, just three years but like so many before him, the club just haven’t really excelled when it comes to youngsters breaking through into the first team.
Not one defender has made it through since Kieran Gibbs and even he was bought from MK Dons. Isaac Hayden was the one I thought would but just as chance was about to arrive, he suffered injury and now he’s doing well at Newcastle Utd.
Jack Wilshere and Alex Iwobi and more recently Ashley Maitland-Niles have come through in midfield but without sounding too harsh, none have really set the world alight have they, not yet anyway but they are young, well, two are and the others career has been hampered by injuries.
As for the forwards, well there’s little point in even going there really. Even Chuba Akpoms Arsenal career seems to be hanging by a thread as yet again, he’s out on loan and hardly setting the world alight…. I know he’s only been there a few weeks and hopefully things will improve for him but who knows.
The next striker expected to come through the Academy is young Edward Nketiah who turns eighteen at the end of May. But despite being young, he’s strong according to the official site so his chance may come sooner rather than later, especially if he keeps banging in the goals as he is for the under 23’s. Saying that, if Lucas Perez can’t get a game, there’s little chance Nketiah will.
Still, there’s always Yaya Sanogo I guess, he might be fit one day, then again, perhaps it’s best he’s not…
So as Jonker heads for pastures new, what’s more important for the club now is who replaces him and you never know, that someone might finally improve our Academy and we start seeing a few more breaking into the first team and really making it. Hopefully, that man will be an Arsenal man and he drums into these younger players just what Arsenal FC means to the fans and what the club should mean to each and every player who is privileged to be playing for the club regardless of at what level.
Finally, Arsene Wenger is reported to have turned down an massive £30 million a season deal in China which if true, could suggest he’s ready to confirm he’s staying put. I however hope it means nothing other than China is not for him but perhaps France, Spain or Italy etc, is….
However, The Telegraph are reporting he’s to be offered a huge pay rise to stay at Arsenal. Deep joy!!
Morning all.
No need to respond to Zlatan’s spiel. He may have meant Liverpool too, but the media took the focus on us as usual. Anyway, his obsession of another team besides his own is stupid.
Sometimes I wonder what’s going on in our academy. Especially the defence. We can’t even improve the ones we buy (Bielik). I think the defensive players are played in different positions so much that they can’t make a particular position their own. It might be meant to improve their all round game but it ends up confusing them more.
If Wenger gets two more years, am quitting.
Probably because he’s a midfielder re Bielik Marshall… 😉
Me too….
Is any big club also running a successful Acadmey in England, guys?
Seems the top academies aren’t really going that well in the league and vice versa.
Morning all.
You sure Scott? Look at all the Saints players who have switched clubs, Everton too and quite a few other clubs have been giving youngsters a chance. Each weekend here in the UK it’s seldom a younger player isn’t being given a mention…
We are better known for letting our young players leave than helping them progress… imo of course!
Hi Rico and the House.
Our academy mirrors the rest of the club, a complete shambles.
Southampton have a good academy, Scott, that plenty of clubs have poached from.
Shearer and Bale both came through their academy.
If Wenger refuses to do the honourable thing, he will need to be hounded out by the fans and left in no doubt that he is no longer welcome.
Rico – Snap! 😀
Rico, they’re hardly the big clubs I meant though.
They’re pretty much mid table clubs.
What’s Utd, City, Chelsea and the like producong through the ranks?
Very little from I’ve noticed but I could be wrong.
Morning Herb, great minds eh…
Herb, Bale is Welsh and yet we will say how many of our players that made it weren’t actually at the academy from day one-we can’t have it both ways but as I said to Rico. Soton aren’t the BIG club I’m talking about.
I think there’s a difference between us and them tough Scott. They are ambitious and are prepared to spend big to win, we, Wenger, isn’t so he needs a good academy. Trouble is it’s not really very good…
Crap players or crap coaches?? The latter imo.
Chelsea has been producing them, for sale of-course.
Problem is, managers are not given much time at a club, hence there is not patience for him to develop a couple of youngsters. And us fans we like superstars. Hope with the u23 league players will start popping up.
Bale, Walcott and Chamberlain, all came through Saints academy and from a very very young age I think…
Why just judge the BIG club?? All clubs should be judged imo, and plenty more than us are doing far better.
And the point is, look how Saints have developed the players they have had…
Unlike at Arsenal eh Marshall, that old geezer gets all the time in the world to search for something he isn’t going to achieve….
Scott
City are building an academy at the Etihad, modelled on Barcelona’s La Masia, where they take youngsters in their early teens, like Barca did with Lionel Messi.
Plus they’re building networks and have a franchise club in America and Australia, with more planned.
That’s what you call building for the future.
Good point Rico, on Wenger needing a better academy since he relies on it more than the other big teams.
Doesn’t need to be that way though Marshall, after all we are quite wealthy ?
Guys, you seem to be twisting my question.
I’m not criticising Soton.
Nor am I criticising Everton.
The clubs I named aren’t producing any better, or with any more regularity than we are and I asked why.
It’s a simple question, but again it turns into another opportunity to attack Wenger!
City are spending more on players AND more on their academy yet aren’t producing anything of first team quality that I’ve seen.
They’re just one example but how many regular starters came through the academies of the clubs I named?
Very, very few if any.
I’m not excusing our failings but again, just asking why it’s happening.
Yes Rico, Wenger has had time. In the last 2-3 years only Iwobi ( i think) has made to first team, and he has regressed. The rest only showed up due to injury and were quickly shipped back once the regulars were fit.
Herb, coaches from my sons school went to the academies of some damn big clubs in England (including Chelsea) last year and every head of these academies were envious of what we have.
Why?
Ok, it’s one school and unique in this country, but when people ask why England isn’t producing great footballers, it’s pretty obvious.
Forward planning seems to have very little part to play there.
Considering the size of the clubs you mention and Arsenal Scott, we are performing dreadfully..
Barca produce many youngsters, it’s just Wenger buys them as i guess it’s easier than trying to develop his own…
Agree Marshall, with both. Iwobi imo has been totally overplayed. No-one would play a kid of his age week in week out. He’s heading for burn out or like Jack, a serious injury…
If that’s true Scott, why are there very few Aussie footballers making it big?
Arsenal are living proof that a club can have everything at hand and a great setup, but if the coaches and manager aren’t good enough, they’ll fail.
Rico, but why?
And why aren’t the other top 5-6 clubs producing???
Rico, the school has only been opened for 3 years.
England aren’t producing great footballers because kids aren’t playing outdoors anymore.
Years ago you couldn’t pass a park or street where there wasn’t a game of football going on, but social culture has become a lot darker and more paranoid over child-safety, plus technology has taken over, and kids are more than happy to stay in and play the latest games console.
There used to be a steady stream of Scottish footballers playing South of the border before money cast them adrift, now there’s hardly any.
They are Scott, but as already said – they seem to prefer to spend big on players and sell their good youngsters because they are impatient…
Arsenal are different, because they won’t spend the big money.
That’s long enough Scott… lol
Very good point Herb and the same can be said of many other sports too. It’s a sad world really and a very unhealthy one for the children…
Yeah Rico, it partly ties in with our increasing obesity problem too.
Interesting read.
Basically, the Barca academy has been around for 40 years yet it’s reputation seems to be made on the current crop, as it hasn’t produced a lot before them.
Look at the Utd golden era-not much afterwards.
http://pollemma.com/2016/08/26/barcelonas-youth-system-myth/
Edward Nketiah – I mentioned him in the post, forgetting that he didn’t come through our academy. He was Chelsea’s player until they released him..
So if he makes it, I guess we can thank the West London Club… 🙂
Herb, that is a good point but I can’t say whether or not that issue happens around the world.
Rico, of those other top clubs that sell due to impatience, I can’t think of any stars that slipped through the cracks, though, so I don’t think that explains it.
I’ve always thought one huge problem is youth coaches care more about results than they do producing good footballers down the track.
Again Scott. Utd are a club who spend money in attempt to win. But they’ve also produced a few, and we have one in Welbeck…
3 years is enough, Rico?
You’re a hard marker 🙂 🙂
They have produced one kid already to gain a professional contract.
He wasn’t good enough, but one year at the school polishing his technique did the trick, and that came from the manager who signed him.
I agree with Rico and Marshall, Scott.
Whilst those big clubs are delighted when one of their own breaks through to become a star player, they don’t put all their eggs in the same basket and become over-reliant on it in the same way that Arsenal have, and this over-reliance has set Arsenal back immeasurably.
Welbeck is a perfect example, Rico.
A very good player, but not world
Class.
When was the last WC player to comment out of England?
Maybe it isn’t just an issue with the academies-it could be several factors including what Herb alluded to.
I’m sure you’ll find some if you look hard enough Scott…
At Arsenal it seems to be the focus is on the game and not the results though, just ook at the first team, and they can’t get either right.
Herb, certainly is, this country are reported to be the fattest in the west, shocking really….
Herb, how have we become overly dependent on our kids when barely any are in our first 11????
Sometimes I’d rather we did play some kids that’ll at least give their all, to be honest.
We’re too ‘Americanised’ Rico…
Rico, our academy seems to be producing too many of the same type of player, from what I’ve seen.
Rooney was pretty special in his day but world class is totally exaggerated imo, too many people use that term for players who really are nowhere near being world class.
I can’t recall who wrote it here once but I’m sure someone suggested Gibbs was world class. I nearly chocked on my cornflakes….
Herb, did you see that TV programme about a ‘restaurant’ in the US which produces heart attack food?? And it’s coming to the Uk..
You are spot on…
Now I rate Gibbs higher than most, but i’m not guilty of that one, Rico hahaha
We need street players. Etoo’s, Drogbas, Ronaldos (the real one). If I was a manager I’d have 3-4 street players in my team. Academy kids are brought up to be ‘polite’, less agressive and see playing football like just routine. Ask Tevez, football is/was his only way out.
That’s because Wenger seems to have an obsession with midfielders Scott. We have loads of them, but very few for a specific role.
And that has to be down to coaching. Ramsey is walking proof of how Wenger has ruined a player imo and he’s not the only one.
But that what happens when he signs younger players, unlike when he signed grown men back in his glory days.
Morning all. Blue skies here…..again! Cold though, a chill wind.
From a practical point of view if you consider the pool of small boys who show any kind of talent at a very young age they usually get sucked up into one of the myriad of local pro teams. These kids are more often than not either tall and strong for their age or small and sort of gifted dribblers or goal scorers who run rings round their opponents on a Sunday morning. They get invited to Melchester United for a trial, good enough they join the other 70 odd hopefuls amongst the small boys age groups. All good footballers many will end up gracing Hackney Downs some will end up down the Orient, or go on to QPR etc etc.
From an intake of several hundred children there will probably only be one, every ten years who will become anything special earlier enough to earn a first team place. So expectations of many or even any ‘special’ players being nurtchered to reach first team status are few and very fat between. English boys are even fewer! It’s one of the reasons all the clubs, especially big clubs look abroad for juniors . It increases the chance of finding a gem, a la Messi.
When our leagues were not dominated by excesses of cash and success was shared around, where money did not always buy success, all clubs produced players of the quality of Parlour, Adams, Sammels, Armstrong ? Etc etc. Actually I’m struggling to recall home made players even way back when!
Buying the finished article is always better for the results than blooding the class of ’92! The clubs, top clubs can’t wait for potential to turn into a star, much easier to buy in and wait for the budding star to reach his potential out on loan, in the U23’s or where ever but not a regular player.
Every club scout is out with his dog watching Sunday league U7’s to U15’s playing football on park fields etc in the hope of unearthing the next Ronaldo or Xavi or Messi etc. Otherwise the search ends at good footballers who may be worth a punt, but usually fail.
Our juniors I would think largely fall into the ‘better than their peers’ but ‘not good enough to ever make the first team’ category.
The waste of talent and the ease that the juniors find themselves on the scrap heap is horrendous. For one successful academy boy who reaches and retains his first team place I should think there are between 500 and 1000 failures.
Clearly the club are not attracting the seriously talented boys, to bring on and unseat some of our over paid, over cosseted peacocks. But the ‘really talented, potentially world class players are as common as rocking horse poo, and finding them is like finding a large gold nugget washed up on a remote seashore. Winning the lottery is easier, the ,big one, that is!
Hale End is a euphemism for Dead End! Sad but I think it’s mostly true.
You only have to look at all the responsibility Wenger put on young Cesc Fabregas, Scott, and the same with Jack Wilshere, who he literally ran into the ground.
Playing an 18 year old kid in a CL semi-final against one of the world’s best footballers.
Now Alex Iwobi has become his latest obsessive ‘project’.
There are plenty of examples of Wenger putting his mis-placed trust in youth.
Out of interest, I checked… Oh dear Scott… 😉
scottfromoz
OCTOBER 26, 2014 AT 8:59AM
Nacho always played well given a run of games.
Gibbs is world class, but another of our boys who is Injury prone.
The win was vital, but we need so much more to be competitive.
Morning all.
Very succinctly put, Wavy.
Rico 😀 😀 😀
Marshall, you often read comments from the South American players who had a dreadful upbringing because their folks had nothing. You are right about how many saw football as their escape, a chance in life to do something for themselves and of course their family.
The European players really don’t know how lucky they are…..
Great comment, Wavy.
When my lads side played other academy sides 2-3 years ago, they were playing mini Barca sides who’s pass and move, pass and move and they’d rip our kids apart.
The focus has been on technique and confidence with the ball at feet-tactics aren’t taught yet as that happens around 12-13 years of age.
Fast forward to last year and already this year, and our kids are ripping competitions apart because they’ve learned how to defend, learned how to pass it around but they have the added advantage of that one on one skill to beat their man.
Parents who didn’t believe in the system a few years ago (buggered if I know why they had their kids at the school if they didn’t) now see the results coming.
Shit Rico, I must have been pissed that night hahaha
I stand corrected lol
Good to see you’re taking notes 🙂
Nice one Wavy… I wonder if the kid we snapped up in the summer will turn out to be a good signing…
Herb, I dare say there are even more examples of players who left and Arsene copped criticism for
not giving them a chance.
Yes, we all want it both ways lol.
That could have been any night then Scott…. 😉
Apparently as I’m never right lol
Haha Scott, please restract that statement.
I really think Gibbs could have made a good LB. I still have nightmares on the night Tevez and Cristiano tore him up in 08-09 Champions league game
Lansbury and Hayden still cheese me off. Two Arsenal boys who would highly likely given a lot more than some of our current toothless players….
Aneke too, is Jeff really any better than Aneke?
And who sit’s by and lets the players get torn apart?
It’s happened to Gibbs, Monreal, Chambers and Jenkinson and Wenger did bugger all about it, he just let them suffer…..
Similar for Senderos against Drogba…
Djourou too, he’s never been a right back and should never have been put in such a horrid situation…
Rico, we agreed on Henri at the time.
As I say though, we criticise when they are given a chance and we criticise when they aren’t.
Then, we split hairs and say he wasn’t given enough time or he was given too much.
Good players will learn from being ripped apart though, surely.
Ok, it depends on the situation at that moment in time.
Marshall, it’s well and truly retracted.
Rico has held that one for 3 years, waiting to pounce 🙂
Rico, I like how South American players have a different perspective of the game. It’s not just a hobby that they get paid to play. To them it’s life.
You’ll be cheesed off more when Gnabry turns up good and we still wont be having proper wingers.
Diourou is shot to pieces Rico.
He had a personal nightmare at the weekend and was captain of the Hamburg side that were crushed 8-0 by Bayern.
The poor players stand out Scott. Yet he keeps and has kept so many.
That’s his job, no-one elses and considering he likes to tell us how long he’s been in the game, he’s really failing in that department… Seems to me he’ll keep just enough Brits to fit the criteria and after that, he likes to look elsewhere…
Just thought of two boys who got bombed out of the club juniors who obviously only display er limited ability….. Wit for it………Andrew Cole and ‘Arry Kane. So the scouts were doing their job right, must have been the academy that got it wrong! Did Cole pre date Wenger or was it all the ‘young’ Arsene’s purr blind vision that let him go?
They are the exceptions though and not the rule!
Rico, i’d like to see how many Brits we have compared to other clubs.
I think we’d sit well
Amongst the top half clubs.
Doesn’t matter though……his time is up so we will know more in a year or so….hopefully it happens, and hopefully the change does work.
Good post Rico
When my son was 9, I enrolled him in the local junior team, Gidea Park Rangers, the team where Tony Adams and Glenn Roeder started, Ray Parlour as well I think.
They played friendlies at 9 years of age, then at 10 it became more organised into a League format, with training once a week and a game on the Sunday.
He played for a couple of other local teams and thoroughly enjoyed himself, that’s without the cricket, athletics, fishing and golf he got involved in as well.
It was a different world back then…
Besides that he played for his school team as well and was always out playing sports, but that was before the internet really took over the world.
Now when I pass the fields where he played with his mates in Harold Hill, Romford as a lad, all I see is people walking their dogs.
Is it any surprise that the best players in the world generally come the poorer regions of the world and in particular South America
Anyway, top discussion guys.
Have a great day everyone.
No Scott, I don’t think they always do, their confidence can be battered after a 90 minute battering..
Wenger is criticized on decisions like letting Joel Campbell leave and still having a Sanogo on the squad. I really don’t get such logic.
Iwobi should be playing 30+ games as young as he is. Moderation, rotate, give rest to these young players. That side of management seems simple to me.
Same here Marshall, which is just why I find it hard to understand why Sanchez gets a battering. To him, football and winning are his life..
I’d forgotten Gnabry, another one of those whose face didn’t fit with Wenger. Super player in the making I thought…
Kev, last post I promise lol
Kids NOT playing at local parks-yes the net has an impact, but I’d never let my 11 year old ride his bike around the suburbs these days to join up with mates as I did when that age.
It’s a different world mate.
More dickhead drivers.
More scumbag stalkers.
More of all the bad stuff.
Night all.
Herb, yet I recall the run he and Merts (i think) went without losing a game when playing in central defence. An injury followed by being asked to play rb was the end of him.. Poor fella…
Wavy – Cole was pre Wenger, Kane though left whilst Wenger was the manager…
Thanks Kev…. I won’t tell you about my early footballing career…. 😉
I have hopes for Mavididi ,just hope he doesn’t get the big contract that makes hiim put his feet up. He needs a coach in the Ian Wright mould , someone who forced his way to the top. They always said the best fighter was a hungry one but once our players join the academy , they get thde best of everything.
Rico, it couldn’t have been any worse than mine… ?
He’s had good comments from the Charlton camp hasn’t he Potter?
🙂 Kev, you sure..
Mark Warburton is being tipped to get the Academy job…
Isn’t he a baker Rico?
? Adam
Hi all
For what its worth! Here is my all time best academy products eleven. Based only on players I have watched in the flesh.
Bob Wilson, Pat Rice, Tony Adams, David O’Leary, Ashley Cole, David Rocastle, Liam Brady, Stewart Robson, Geordie Armstrong, John Radford, Charlie George
Subs: Peter Storey, Peter Simpson, Paul Merson, Paul Davis, Michael Thomas, Ray Kennedy, Stuart Taylor
Hardly anyone from recent years there and really hard to find a sub goalie. At least Taylor got a Premier League medal though!
With apologies to Gus Caesar, Colin Hill and Paul Gorman!!!
The soul of the club is an interesting topic and one that blokes like Gazidis would quote endlessly as being vitally important to himself, Wenger and whoever else comes to mind to make them seem a tad more down with the ‘ordinary’ fans.
In the last week I have heard from 3 chaps who have sat near me both at the Emirates and Highbury for years and years. None of them will renew if Wenger stays. All of them are Islington boys by birth though they all live some distance away now. This makes a commitment for a season ticket much more than just the money, extortionate though that may be. Then, just now, I spoke to my brother who began taking me when I was a kid. He said that, if Wenger stays on he won’t be renewing either. His words were “It’s just the same boring bollocks year in, year out under Wenger and I just can’t be bothered any more”.
Of course, in the scheme of things financially Arsenal, these things are entirely irrelevant and possibly desirable. They would perhaps much prefer younger people with higher disposable income who will bring their selfie sticks and spending power so they can spend the whole game texting and videoing themselves while consuming a steaming pile of expensive grease and asking which team are Arsenal. In fact the club might well be happy if they got bored and put their tickets on the redoubtable Exchange so they could cream off another 10% or whatever for the resale of tickets they have already been paid for.
Are any of these people remotely important to the club or do you pay your money, take your choice and shut the fuck up? Like me, they were all born with Arsenal as part of their culture and lifeblood so does it really matter if they have had enough – for whatever reason?
Please! Somebody – anybody- give me a coherent argument why Wenger should be offered or accept a new contract because I cannot think of one.
No Romford Pele Bob? lol
There isn’t one Adam. Other than security and finance.
Certainly not for ambition…
QED – security and finance.
That’s it, all of it! Nothing more just gimme da munneee!
Wenger = a secure bank balance. Screw the soccer!
That’s your answer Adam stimulated by our esteemed leader, Rico the seer?
Rico. Let me know if you think of one. 🙂
Adam, not to make light of that terrible situation, one that is stopping fans from caring which is bloody sad, but you’re asking us to answer a question that we have agreed there is no answer to.
There is one person and one only in the position to make the call on an extension and pay rise, and he disagrees with everyone on HH, still thinks Arsene is still the answer, yet according to most, he’s not to blame.
I’m not sure what answer you’d like to hear, but if Stan isn’t the answer then who or what is??
You’ll be waiting a long time Adam…
Funny thing is, you’d think such an intelligent man as Wenger is supposed to be, he’d realise he can’t take us any further forward, in fact where he’s taking us is backwards.
If I was him, I’d have walked away long before now and for a new challenge….
Wavy, and if Wenger takes the extra pay rise he’s as bad, if not worse than the players, board and owner and it’s him who serves up the rubbish we watch each week…
Adam 1.40pm…
Excellent, totally agree.
It surprising how many other more enjoyable and less irritating things you can find to do on a match day. You soon get out of the habit of topping up the obscene bank accounts of overrated under motivated players and managers, not forgetting, egocentric, parasitical club owners.
Personally I’d rather spend an afternoon in IKEA these days, but then I’m not young and don’t have disposable income to waste at the Emirates…
Rico. 🙂
You may recall I have been asking the same, rather obvious, question for about 5 years now.
You wouldn’t in the one at Theale Kev, customers get stuck in the car park for hours and can’t get out…. 😉
You are not alone Adam.. 😉
Thank gawd Rico. 🙂
No Rico, the branch in the A406…
?
Phew Kev, by the time you got out of the Theale store, what you’d bought would be out of date… 😉
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsene-wenger-won-t-give-up-on-champions-league-dream-and-will-seek-club-best-equipped-for-success-a3477841.html
Adam you summed it up completely. My season tickets after 30 years are going back too.My son and I can no longer raise the enthusiasm for the journeys the silly oclock kick offs and the lack of any passion from the club. We will watch on the box or lap top but from next season that is it.
The sad demise….
Afternoon all and thanks Rico………………………………….maybe we should all get season tickets at Arsenal lego instead ! 🙂
Dont leave before the end though, otherwise you will miss something ! 🙂
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-star-olivier-girouds-stunning-9932442
He couldn’t win the CL if he had the best squad in the world Lee..
Imo of course…
I can just imagine Arsene on Chinese Super League TV saying this after a game………………..精神力量
Can anyone guess what it is ?…………………….free pasty to anyone who gets it first !………………he says it a lot and I could strangle him for it ! hahaha
Afternoon Rico and the house,
I have just logged on the first time in 5 days.
At the moment I am at my granddaughters, spending time with my delightfull g/granddaughters and really enjoying it
Very good post Rico and some good comments in response.
Disappointed to see Freddie leave , I have been hearing good things about his coaching for the
U15 .
At the moment I am on a tablet to at the moment not very easy
See you latter
🙂 Lc…
Afternoon Rick, thanks.. sounds like you are having a good time. Enjoy…
LCM. Is it “I didn’t see it”
Surely it’s Chinese for ‘ze handbrake’..
Ze mental strength?
Evening Rico and All
Regarding post
NEWS: Serie A boss tells friends he’ll join Arsenal in the summer.
Juventus manager Massimiliano Allegri has reportedly told friends he will take the Arsenal job this summer. [Calcio Mercato]
It’s alway’s amazed me the way academy’s think.
A few of my old mates were with chelsea donkeys ago
we covered it on here.
Point is chelsea sent Butch Wilkins(West London) to join Senrab and he lived with
my mate(East London)..Reason much harder than Academy football.
Now Academy’s wrap the kids in cotton wool.
I have spent the last 30 years explaining to heads of academys
that the only thing you improve is technic.which has been the FA’s
main objective,since English player’s were told time and time
again about trapping bags of cement.
I speak with lots of parents who have very talented kids,but
are shit scared to let the lads play street football.
It’s frowned upon in the academy’s…Now
We love to see good football,Technic is wonderful
But is not all about having the ball..
Would Big Tone and Ray have made it under Arsene?
A typical Wenger comment Adam…
I knew Adam would get it !……. 😆
Evening Fred, if that report in the news is correct… What great news!
It`s amazing the amount of time`s Wenger has mentioned …”Our mental strength”………………yet when you listen to all the pundits on TV..talksport etc`……mental strength / 精神力量 is the thing they all think we lack !……………….bet he`s got it tattooed on his hampton ! hahaha
LC. I claim my pasty. 🙂
Just rumour rico.
Let’s hope it’s more than that Fred…
Adam..I would be suprised if more than
30,000 watched the game for the full 90min’s.
As I told you on here many times..
I only know a couple of season ticket holder’s
who only go now and again.
Germany is the only country to get it right
regarding fans.
Italy is the best example of getting it 100% wrong,
regarding fans.
Talk about elbow room…You could swing Cats all day long.
Hi Fred. if only the atmosphere at the home games was better though. It’s generally pretty flat.
Adam
It seem’s the old togetherness The Arsenal
has gone now.
Years ago you looked round and see someone you see
the week before.
Now it’s ..Who the fuck are you.
Come off it Adam, you know it’s all down to the acoustics ?
Where’s the pasty then Cocker?
Adam deserves his pasty…
Pastygate?
Guys, is the hatred really running so deep for Arsene on here now?
The mans rumoured to be offered an extension AND pay rise and not a single one of you can do anything but blame him for it?
I say it often enough because there’s evidence of it often enough-the man is to blame for everything that goes wrong, whether he’s responsible or not.
Stan offers Arsene a pay rise-Arsenes fault?
What’s happened to HH???
I know-Arsene lol
It’s even at the stage now that any defence of Arsene, no matter how brutally honest and based on fact, is simply ignored by most here….easier to NOT comment than it is to admit being wrong!!!
Wake up people.
You’re not being honest and if you say you are then maybe delusional is word of the day lol
Adam asked on what basis Arsene deserves an extension and pay rise.
I don’t agree that he deserves one, and hope he knocks it back, but I throw up the person guilty of actually offering it-Stan-yet the attack on Arsene continues whilst Stan didn’t get a single mention.
You lot really aren’t being serious lol
Arsene out, but Objectivity in……please as it’s making HH toxic.
I cop plenty of blame for the verbal brawling in here but ffs, an outsider joining now would really think it’s just abother of Wenger out groups that are everywhere and it’s better than that-you’re all better than that.
Scott..I don’t of any club that sacks the board 1st mate.
That’s why you get the mallet mate.
know of any club
Scott, Fred is right. Manager always goes before the owner..
And if HH is becoming the way you suggest it is, ask yourself why..
I’m sick of Arsene Wenger and his comments. I truly am….
The clubs could care less about bums filling seats. With the new TVs money they could let fans in for free every home game and still turn a healthy profit at the end of the season. The money they earn on match day is their equivalent of ‘ash cash’ . Nice but not entirely necessary, however, they never miss the opportunity to make even more gazillions out of the gullible but deeply committed public. They’re squeezing the life blood out of the game, especially on and in the ground(s)!
I rather think we are experiencing the first symptoms of football, the game we know and love, beginning to eat itself! It has become so greedy and self-aggrandising that it has forgotten what it is all about. It is first and foremost a sport played and watched for pleasure as a pass time. It has become an engorged over paid business enterprise. A money making series of franchises, where profit is everything and loss is total disaster.
The comments made on here about the cancellation of season tickets, the lack of atmosphere in the stadium/arena the apathy and increasing disinterest in the game in general and Arsenal in particular, seems to suggest that the demise is already underway.
How or when it will all end I’ve no idea but when it does it will probably be cataclysmic, but nobody will really care anymore because the interest will have disappeared long before final nail in the coffin of soccer is knocked home. The ultimate own goal.
Cronky will be syrup free and riding the range. Sir Chips will be back at the fish shop frying tonight. Wenger will be at a winery treading grapes but tactically having no barrels or bottles to turn his world beating juice into a medal winning wine, and the Emirates will morph into a shopping mall full of cheap Chinese goods!
Wavy great stuff to-day..I must know you.
Rico we are boring..Wanting the same
Ii’s like you said..We are pushing for change
8.5 million or 10 billion..Who would take on?
Fred, you’re right but my point is why do we blame Arsene for Stan and his cronies extending and upgrading?
If Arsene accepts it, then he plays a part but everyone is blaming a Arsene for the offer.
That can’t be fair.
Rico, I believe i outlined why-people are too quick to blame Wenger for all that’s wrong it seems obvious others play their part.
For mine, there is nowhere enough discussion on the board and Yank.
Nowhere near enough blame directed at the right people.
Arsene leaves, a replica comes in, if Stan gets his way, and we are treading water again.
Night guys…
Scott how do we get of rid The Syrup
These were my exact words…………………………..free pasty to anyone who gets it first !…………….although Adam got the question right and him being a multi-linquist like Arsene I expected no more………………..the free pasty is HERE to whoever gets here first !……………..I`ll throw in a Cornish Cream Tea ( Jam frst with clotted cream on top……….unlike them Devon Philistines who put the cream on first and jam on top ! ) in as well !……………………….right !…………get starting your cars up !…………………………………
😀
Murder the bastard ……………Fred !………………………………..and I dont mean murder Fred ! hahaha
Coq
The Gooners are treated like shit
fucking yanks don’t give a fuck about us,
Hambergers /Hot dogs..Who care’s..But us
You dont have to convince me, Scott !…………………………..I`m a fully paid up member of the KKK…………………………………Kill Kroenke Klan
I can tell you a fact..
Year’s ago it could have happened.
They are parasites, Fred !……….they know we love our club and will use that to bleed us dry !…………………what ever happens to our club be it Wenger getting another undeserved contract or Kroenke moving us to LA……….I cant turn off over 50 years of loving The Arsenal !……………….it`s not The Arsenal`s fault, it`s the bastards who run it !……………hate them, love The Arsenal !
Night people……………….trouble and strife wants some company !
Pastygate
Yer me to guy’s..Offski
Fred, if only I knew 🙂 🙂
kkk….. speak to the A team…………….
Could we resurrect Mata Hari to get under his syrup? Or even Rico????
Wavy, I say we take the direct approach-no room for subtle tactics here, so Lee and Wath can head over 🙂
Scott, you want Kroenke out so much, why don’t you pop over to the US and persuade him? 🙂
Morning all…
Do you think Trump would let him in, Rico !………………………..morning. 🙂
Probable reason Kroenke doesn`t visit the Em`s is the amount of time his syrup is in quarentine !
Trump would let me in for sure 🙂
I’m not sure Stans security would let me enter Texas though lol
If he’s any sense Lc, no….
Trump-sense???
I’m in, Rico hahaha
We’ll see Scott.. lol
New post up now.