Lazy and Anti-Arsenal!!

by rico | Saturday, July 9, 2011 | Daily Bits and Bobs | 268 comments

I look at most things in football through my Arsenal tinted spectacles and I am I suppose, as biased as any other football fan.

Fans of other clubs may think that the Press and Media give their club a hard time. Well I know from years of experience that Arsenal definitely are given a hard time and are the easy target of every lazy sports writer and sports media scumbag who wants a cheap headline.

But why is this the case???

It’s historical and as in many cases concerning Arsenal, can be traced back to the 1930’s. In those days it was lucky Arsenal, because the majority of football writers were tactically ignorant and could not work out the tactics Arsenal were employing. Northern journalists hated the Gunners during the 1930’s because they broke the dominance and the cosy cartel of the Northern and Midlands clubs in Division One.

Southern journalists hated Arsenal out of jealousy. Prior to Chelsea’s recent financially doped success, only 3 League Championships had been won by London clubs other than Arsenal. Portsmouth picked up two titles in the 1950’s, but Arsenal were the only consistent challengers from the south of Birmingham to the Northerners dominance and the belief that it was their birthright to win the League.

Later on it became boring Arsenal, even though the Gunners employed the ‘tactics of the day’ the same as most other clubs. It was easy for lazy and poorly educated football writers to hang the boring tag onto Arsenal. 65+ years of dislike and jealousy had driven this anti-Arsenal agenda.

Then along came Arsene Wenger and with the changes he brought, suddenly Arsenal were popular…

Cue consternation in football circles!

But the Media soon found other ways to make snide remarks and stick the knife in. The constant references to Arsenal’s red cards is a good example. Were Arsenal the only club to have players sent off? It certainly seemed that way considering the Media hysteria it generated. It made you wonder if it was borne out of that age-old anti-Arsenal feeling handed down through the generations?

Television and radio cannot escape scrutiny or criticism, the BBC has a clear Northern bias. They’ll feel very at home when they’ve relocated up there.

Good riddance I say!

ITV are irrelevant.

Commercial radio is a parody but they also stir the pot so it’s best we just ignore them…

The InterNet has seen the birth of a whole host of websites that claim to be ‘in the know’. Whilst in truth they are full of garbage and just provide lazy journalists with an easy story. All the same, these sites generate a lot of interest from fans and they enjoy winding-us-up…

Journalists spend a lot of time reading ‘our blogs’, picking up on the fans disquiet and turning it on us with inflammatory articles. Beware the occasional blogger with the controversal comment! It might just be Harry Harris… 😉

I cannot leave the anti-Arsenal theme without a quick word about our referees. There is a clear case of double-standards among our referees when dealing with Arsenal. Let us not forget that before these guys [and gals] picked up a whistle, they were also football fans, with the same likes and dislikes as the rest of us.

And most of them are Northerners!!!

Who was it that said, that Ferguson not only had the best players but that he had the best referees…

Many a true word spoken in jest. Or was it jest?

Written by allezkev

268 Comments

allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:28 am

Good old JJ 😆
rico on 9th July 2011 at 9:32 am

Morning kev, bloomin jj 😉

Great read by the way, i hate the medis right now, they over sensationalise everything negative about our club and have done for years..

I actually thought it got worse when Wenger had been with us a couple of seasons, as the english retired/left and he bought overseas players the press blamed in for the crap england team too…
rico on 9th July 2011 at 9:35 am

From Young Guns about the squad travelling to Asia

Arsène Wenger will select his squad for the forthcoming trip to Asia today, with only a select few youngsters poised to be included.

Arsenal jet off to Malaysia on Sunday, ahead of friendlies against a Malaysian XI and then Hangzhou Greentown, in what is seen as a trip focused entirely on commercialisation. That means the opportunity to impress that some players had been hoping for won’t come until the clash with FC Cologne, or the Emirates Cup.

However, Wenger is expected to include a handful of the most prominent candidates for first-team places next season. Those include Emmanuel Frimpong and Kyle Bartley, while Young Guns has learnt Ryo Miyaichi is all but certain to travel, subject to international clearance. The club are yet to decide whether to persure a work permit appeal for the winger.

Oğuzhan Özyakup, Conor Henderson and Chuks Aneke are some of the outside chances, but all three have handed their passports in and have been carefully assessed since returning to pre-season training on Monday.

Wellington Silva and Pedro Botelho are both poised to miss out, as the club seek to finalise La Liga loans for the duo.
rico on 9th July 2011 at 9:35 am

I also read that Fabregas isn’t travelling….

Oh watch the press have a field day about that….
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:38 am

Thank you boss.
Yeah, your spot-on there. I don’t recall CFC being vilified in quite the same way when they fielded 11 foreigners…
And to blame AFC for England, what utter nonsense.
Was AW in England in 1974 and 1978???
MikeB on 9th July 2011 at 9:38 am

Well done AK,

really good article and some fascinating facts in there.

Mind you, I always thought HH stood for Highbury House, not Harry Harris… just goes to show huh 😉
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:41 am

Wenger goes out of his way to accomidate the Press, and if their not calling him a paedo, they’re stitching him up by unsettling his players.
Mind you, i’m beginning to wonder what Darren Dein’s role is in all this???
rico on 9th July 2011 at 9:42 am

Its just us they hate and any old excuse eh… I don’t think they liked Wenger saying that he doesn’t always tell them the truth either 😉

If I were Wenger I would speak only about the bare minimum and what I had too, I wouldn’t tell them anything else….. Anything else he should stick to writing on afc.com, then it’s in black and white…
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:44 am

Cheers Mike, glad you enjoyed it mate…
My cousin’s best friend [a Spurs fan] knew & worked with Harry Harris.
And yes, he exactly as we all suspect he is, a….!
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:44 am

He’s exactly…
rico on 9th July 2011 at 9:45 am

Morning Mike,

I didn’t want to ask who Harry Harris is 😉
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:48 am

Spot-on Rico, the Press love to ask him his opinion on other clubs and aspects of football, and he just gives an honest answer that those wankers then twist to stir up trouble.
I make you 100% right, give them nothing…
Just like George..
MikeB on 9th July 2011 at 9:49 am

AK,

you do realise, if it’s a cousin by marriage, that constitues grounds for divorce. 😆
adam on 9th July 2011 at 9:49 am

Because of my job I have met many of the football writers you are speaking about and let me tell you they are a spiteful bunch in the main, completely carried away with their own sense of self-importance. They are pissed off that they are not pro footballers and take great delight in applying pressure to whichever club and manager they see as their “enemy”. Take a look at some of them on The Sunday Supplement to see how they like to think that they and not the players, are the real story. Their bias and feelings of entitlement result in the bile they spill and Wenger is their bete noir at the moment as he won’t fall in with their views of how things should be done. Most, though not all, are chronic piss-heads too.
rico on 9th July 2011 at 9:49 am

That name calling was rotten to the core, many would have handed that over to the old bill to deal with – wenger should have done…

then we had Moanrinho comments which were a disgrace but again, nothing done….
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 9:50 am

Morning peeps, good post AK…. Wenger should take leaf out of ol red nose’s book, tip the media bollocks or just speak to them when he fancies on his terms!!!
arsenal fan on 9th July 2011 at 9:51 am

good post,
great points,
the media uses these articles as publicity stunts….
rico on 9th July 2011 at 9:54 am

hi adam,

i don’t always see the sunday supplement but talk about another Red Nose love in…..
Jimmy Anderson on 9th July 2011 at 9:54 am

It is widely believed that the Invincible season for Arsenal was and still is the greatest achievement of any club of the Premiership era. It makes me laugh to hear bitter United fans and stooges criticise Arsenal, yet it does not surprise me. I remember Gary Neville wondering why so many people seemed to love or at least admire the way Arsenal played and not like United. Well most people could see that Wenger had brought a new type of football to England. United played the same old way, flashes of brilliance with some brilliant players but no overall exciting style. Chelsea were even more boring to watch. Arsenal seemed to bring our league up to and beyoned the standard of the Italian League. People forget that it was the Italians, not the Spanish that dominated pre Ferguson and Wenger. The great thing about this club and manager is that we don’t resort to underhand tactics to win titles. Wenger does not engage in mind games, except if reciprocating someone elses. HE gets abuse from many quarters. But let’s face it, all the truly great people get abuse whilst they are fighting for what they believe in. And Arsenal supporters should be really proud becasue what Wenger has created is a miracle. This will show over the coming years. We have so many great players in what is clearly the best academy in the league, having overtaken United’s a few years back. The global fan base is massive at over 30 Million. The reson is, that after Barcelona, Arsenal play the best football. We can even beat them if we are allowed to keep 11 players on the pitch cos they have never beaten us with 11. Everybody loves the football we play and everything is going to get steadily better. It is good to hear the amount of abuse that Wenger and Arsenal get becasue it shows that we are doing things the right way.
The press have made things look bad today buit you wait until the season starts. Arsenal will yet again ‘surprise’ everybody by challenging for the title. Well it won’t be a surprise to those who know football. Every year this team gets better and the academy has longer to have shaped the up and coming players.
Sorry to dissapoint the hate-peddlars but this is not a club in crisis. This is the club that is a model to every other in England. It is run the right way, has the best academy, the best style of football and the best looking future. It’s no wonder so many hate us. It is pure jealousy.
Despite Ferguson leading United to so many titles, there is still the feeling there that they are in an unfathomable way not as good as Arsenal. They have had the best ability to crawl over the line when the going gets tough but they don’t ever wow the neutral fans. We do it all the time and that is why Arsenal remains the favourite 2nd club for so many supporters of other clubs.
It is only a matter of time before we get back where we belong. For 3/4 of last season we outplayed everybody, including Barcelona once. United cannot say the same and United supporters know that we lost the title and they took advantage. You ask them, if they are honest they will agree. I have many ‘old school’ united’ friends and they agree.
The mighty Arsenal will go from strength to strength and every negative article and comment makes this more likely. It just emphasizes the bitterness and hatred of some towards the club that lights the way with how this gane is supposed to be played.
MikeB on 9th July 2011 at 9:54 am

Morning Rico,

Express newspapers I believe… I’m with Prince Philip on that one… he once called it a ‘bloody-awful newspaper’ and he was right. 😆
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:54 am

No Mike my cousin is a Gooner :P, it’s my cousin’s friend whose the Spud. Nice guy, just a bit misguided..
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:55 am

Ditto Adam, i’ve met a few as well… And i agree.
rico on 9th July 2011 at 9:56 am

Morning Lee,

I with you on that, he doesn’t even speak th the Beeb and good for him and Manure for rather spending 80K a season in fines for it….

Hi AF – and how many of us used to fall for it, thankfully I have learned over the years 😉
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:58 am

Cheers AF, i make you right mate…
Hiya Lee. Cheers buddy, you ok?
arsenal fan on 9th July 2011 at 9:59 am

I think we are on the verge of signing only gervinho this season…..
no cbs wenger will say we have 4 cbs in verm,kos,jd,squillaci and the likes of bartley or miquel coming up so…..i fearing for the worst next season…..
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 10:00 am

Gotta pop out, see all you great Gooners later…
Cheers again Rico 😉
Gunner38 on 9th July 2011 at 10:04 am

Spot on! I’ve been ranting for years about the media witch hunt of Arsenal. It has now got so bad that I truly believe that they have de-stabilised the club. It is shameful and disgusting. As for freferees, you only have to look at the unbelieveable decisions from Phil Dowd to know that there are bent refs who hate our guts. The papers and internet are awash with bile spewed at our club and it is so obvious that they take great pride in doing it. I have regularly e-mailed that illustrious journalist Steven Howard and received typically crass and unprofessional responses from a bloke whose real football knowledge could be written on the back of a piece of paper containing all of the spuds league championships! It is so boring now that I don’t really bother to read the papers as I know it will invariably result in another dig at our club – with journalists urging our top stars to quit. Here’s hoping for that miracle – some top signings and a trophy come May.
El tel on 9th July 2011 at 10:07 am

Great article,

I have been saying this for years on another site. I get blown out of the water by our own fans for stating the obvious.

Over the past six years we really couldnhave won at least one league title if it wasn’t for the Mancscums pals in black.

Chelsea have also been reeled in since David Gill was appointed Chairman of the Premier League.

Is it a coincidence that the Mancscum had won nothing for two seasons so the League dumped our own David Dein and put the Mancscum chairman in charge?

You Guys will think I am mad but for me it would be great to see all the London Teams back each other against those Northern toe rags as it certainy looks like they help each other out.

Take Blackburn last season at Old Toilet. Going into a quick deficit the Manager decides to experiment with his side and they let in 8 goals. That man is Mr Sam Allerdyce (Fergies Golf Partner) this kick started them, it gave them confidence as they were piss poor before this.
The Rooney incidents (getting away with an elbow and swearing into a camera) went unpunished.
Their Manager getting cheap fines and sent to the stands after time and time again exploiting the rules.
When will the FA ever say to them enough is enough and dock them points?

In this time and at a crucial stage for us we get goals disallowed at Spuds,WBA and at home verus Sunderland and I think Blackburn. There were stonewall penalties waved away too.

Excuses. You bet they are. BUT they are also FACTS.

I am fed up with fans of football turning a blind eye to the crooked way Football is fun in England.

I will through all this pain and frustration still love The Arsenal and watch them forever even though I detest Football these days.
itchyballs on 9th July 2011 at 10:08 am

bunch a c**TS.THE LOT OF E’M!-MANURE lovers to a man…..
rico on 9th July 2011 at 10:08 am

See you later Kev 🙂
adam on 9th July 2011 at 10:09 am

Morning Rico. I am afraid we have to take all the crap on the chin and try and keep the faith. Not that Arsene’s proclamations from yesterday were remotely inspiring.
rico on 9th July 2011 at 10:10 am

Hi G38 & El tel,
El tel on 9th July 2011 at 10:14 am

Also their Engerland will never win fuck all while they chuck the shit at the Arsenal as we ARE the Club who could develop the English boys in our sst up into the Engrland teams of the future.

I think though Wenger will just ship them out and cut off the chance of turning them into the finished article.
Danish Gooner on 9th July 2011 at 10:14 am

Birth right to win,tell that to Arsene who only wants to make money.
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 10:21 am

hello and goodbye (not good buy!) AK….. 🙂
MikeB on 9th July 2011 at 10:22 am

El tel,

I understand and share your frustrations. I would also endorse your perfectly justifiable accusations of systemic bias in both the media and governing bodies… it’s a disgrace and I’ve preached much the same on many occasions… however…

It does create something of a siege mentality among Arsenal fans… and in a strange way brings us that much closer together… as an Arsenal family if you like.

I think that’s part of the reason that Arsenal blogs are so much more prevalent, and the bloggers so much more articulate than the expletive deletive dross we see from other clubs.

In a way they’re doing us a favour 😆
rico on 9th July 2011 at 10:23 am

I’m not entirely convinced about what he said yesterday adam…
rico on 9th July 2011 at 10:25 am

Mike –

don’t know if you watch Saturday Morning kitchen, but a chef from Rock is on this morning….
rico on 9th July 2011 at 10:28 am

El tel, looks like Henri Lansury will be another shipped out yet he’d be a great player for us and far better than Denilosn but how many chances did he get….
MikeB on 9th July 2011 at 10:28 am

Rico,

I don’t, but the wife does… I think that’s why she hates the name Redknapp 😉

The guy’s supposed to be great… Think even Mister PadStein himself is worried 😆
rico on 9th July 2011 at 10:29 am

Hi Danish, him and those above him…..
rico on 9th July 2011 at 10:31 am

He says his restaurant is doing really well since the two stars but winter is quiet … Not suprised, especially if the water freezes 😉

Do you frequent is place? Not Mr Steins, the other one…

(i know it won’t )
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 10:34 am

Morning all,
Good read AK, what part of the north are you from.?
London no doubt ha ha.
But don’t be too quick on Northeners quite a few are Arsenal through and through, the others are just oiks. Me on the other hand is an Easterner, London of course, is it true that Hadrians wall has been knocked down and those Northen people have started traveling, get some Brickies up there Quick
MikeB on 9th July 2011 at 10:35 am

Rico,

Not a lot, but did pop over to ‘Fifteen’ the other day… took the wife and mother; so it was a great day out 😉

What a load of old rubbish that was… there’s three hours of my life and nearly two hundred quid I won’t get back in a hurry.
rico on 9th July 2011 at 10:38 am

mike

Ah Jamie’s place, some frinds of mine went last year, pre wedding night out, they had a wonderful time and fab meal… I wouldn’t pay that kind of money if i’m honest – i went into padsteins restaurant last year – picked up a menu and left 😉
rico on 9th July 2011 at 10:39 am

Morning Steve

What did you make of Wengers comment yesterday??
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 10:51 am

The man has started to get on my nerves rico, If he is the man to lead us to glory he better get off of his skinny arse and start Manageing, even a burk like me can see we need a revamp in defense and if he dosen’t pull his finger out soon i shall be upsetting Will a bit more. You don’t have to be Einstein to know that our defense are shite polite way of wording, and if he dallies anymore he can stay on his water slide for good as far as i am concerned. I have had my moan but am not a good fan not seen his statment don’t tell me he’s bought defenders
rico on 9th July 2011 at 10:53 am

Exactly how I feel right now Steve, i am not happy at all….
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 11:18 am

Rico, just had a look at his comments, signings will probably wait till after the tour then apart from Jersey Joe Gervinho,we may have a hit with geronimo, but i am getting excited about young Ryo looking forward to seeing this young man play in a red shirt, i can see a lot of shirts sold out there, hope we dont run out of bottles
rico on 9th July 2011 at 11:22 am

Can you see Ryo getting a vise though Steve, as much as he excites me, he is very young to be up against players like Shawcross and Barton….

Why Gervinho is taking so long i don’t know, he should be on the plane tomorrow…

Maybe that is when we will hear about him for def…
rico on 9th July 2011 at 11:41 am

Popping off for a bit…..
Adam on 9th July 2011 at 11:42 am

Rick Stein’s place is great as long as you aren’t hungry.
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 11:56 am

Seen your comments rico, if you have skill and talent Shawcross and Barton can be made to look like hackers, skill and talent followed by a bit of grit and guts and he could be a future Arsenal great. Wenger makes a bit of sense with what he had to say, he agrees we have what money is needed to reinforce our team, but he has stated that we need the right players, well i wouldn’t disagree there, just make sure he gets them before the season starts, he states he’s working long day and long nights looking for the talent we need,But i wonder although he states we have the money, 35 mill for Cesc and 25 mill for Nas could make it a
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 11:57 am

realy good pot, dont know what went wrong there
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 12:00 pm

Morning all.good read AK that i fully agree with.you can see that bitterness when mourinho/evra/scholes talk about Arsenal/Wenger.
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 12:05 pm

I sometimes wish Arsene wouldn’t speak about other clubs.Wenger has been accusing the chavs of financial doping,so the media tried to lure Villas Boas to hit back at Wenger by asking him what he thought but fortunately AVB failed to take the bait.
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 12:08 pm

Goal.shit is really a shit website.all they do all day long is copy/paste what is written by the media of other countries then brand the story an exclusive.they are especially obsessed with cesc to barca for years now.
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 12:09 pm

Wenger should worry more about our club, sod the others.
osi on 9th July 2011 at 12:10 pm

morning, evening, night all, what the hell is wrong with media people linking to crap players and hideous human beings like Barton?

Every season the media slaughtered Arsenal or Arsene for sticking with crap players like Deni, Dia, Al, B52 etc.. then they [media] come up with with stories linking us with more crappy players every season. that’s dissing, isn’t it?
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 12:15 pm

Afternoon fellas, thanks for positive feedback KT/SP, much appreciated…
From the North Steve, yes mate North Dalston….
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 12:18 pm

When the tours start thats the time you start to get that football instinct back, closed season sucks no one tells you F all and you may as well hibinate, i am getting a bit pissed off with all this secrecy United just seem to pay the money and dont give a f–k and it hasn’t hurt them too much, you dont have to have secrets just ask how much and pay the f—-g money, we can all relax then and have an enjoyable break, f—–g Frenchmen are all about f—–g money
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 12:20 pm

Hi AK a homeboy i knew it
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 12:21 pm

Hi Osi, the Press know as much as you or I mate. Most journos just want us all to think that they have some special contacts and that they’re in ‘the know’…
Yet all thet do all day is lift rumours off of the net and then claim them as exclusives.
Just look at The News of the World. These are the kinds of scumbags we get writing in the Press and rubbishing our club.
I hate them [well most of them]
Will on 9th July 2011 at 12:22 pm

This is saying what I have been saying for years and also, i have been trying to stop arguments between Arsenal fans on here (badly I will admit) because that is what the press want.

We need to band together and go on to destroy the press. I only wish they did an open day thing where we could ask the journo’s how they get their “stories”.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 12:25 pm

And a doughnut SP ;)…
Yeah i hate the close season mate, just one long wind-up.
I think part of the thing with ManUre, is that they can almost certainly guarantee silverware, so if it’s a straight choice between them and AFC [Jones], then we lose almost every time…
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 12:29 pm

Will, can you imagine your average Fleet St/Docklands scumbag having a look at LG..? I bet they think it’s hilarious, reading all the negative comments and general abuse going around. It’s as if Arsenal fans are tearing themselves apart…
osi on 9th July 2011 at 12:30 pm

What’s new about the buying front Kev? Any inside knowledge about Arsenal transfers or buys?
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 12:31 pm

Welcome back Will, missed your dry wit, not that i have been on much had trouble with my e-mail they blocked me can you believe that, dont send you a mail first to tell you just opt and blocked it caused me all sorts of problems, the only tip i would give people who probably know anyway is to keep changing your password or get one that is really hard to decifer. Anyway Will whats your views on Wengers comments
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 12:33 pm

And i’m not having a pop at LG, because i like the it and think that the guys that run it do a great job…
It’s just all the ammunition that Arsenal fans are giving to those journo cnuts who hate us in the first place.
Look at how many yiddos work on the papers, that industry is full of them…
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 12:34 pm

Wenger’s i/v yesterday did not give me any hope.i also don’t get why we take so long to sign players.im sure our scouts identify players early but why does it take so long to sign them?if our scouts think a player is good enough then we should pay what their clubs want.it may seem overpriced as its the current market value.thats where Dein was so influential as he encouraged Wenger to take risks.right now Wenger values a player and also determines transfer fees,wages and contract length which is what Gazidis should be doing.Arsene has too much power at the club and this has hindered us especially when it comes to signing of players.
Will on 9th July 2011 at 12:34 pm

I really want this place not to be a site full of anger and arguments between ourselves and this is what I have been trying to do in my ham-fisted way. I apologise if I have offended anyone but I hate seeing us going at each other because we have been reading made up stories in the anti-Arsenal press.

Steve, I ignore what Wenger says, we have to play the mis-information game.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 12:37 pm

Me Osi, no mate, i know as much as Antony Kastrinakis, Steven Howard, Steve Curry, Matt Hughes,et al, and that’s f**k all.
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 12:42 pm

Will, your comments are as important as anyone elses, theres been times when we hav’nt agreed and i’m sure it will keep on happening but we don’t fall out over it. Your right i suppose that Wenger keeps mum about the happenings at the club but passionate supporters want to keep up to date, if the PR dept let out a little more perhaps we wouldn’t have the frustration that builds up within the supporters
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 12:42 pm

But i hope, Osi, that AFC sign Benzema and Mata, but that’s all it is mate.
KT, how do you rate Mata? And what about playing Arshavin through the middle if in the worst case scenario, we lose Cesc & Nasri???
osi on 9th July 2011 at 12:42 pm

Allezkev, I read an article , i don’t remember where exactly, but it was arsenal fan site, chastising Wenger for he suggested that the team needed one or 2 quality players. Did Arsene say that Yesterday? With Clichy gone how many players do you think we need to buy if NasFab stay?
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 12:46 pm

Yeh but you dont write a bad blog though AK well unless your a Northener
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 12:46 pm

I really hope Wenger put on his poker face with his reference of ‘1 or 2 players’ and that he has a trumpcard somewhere because if thats the case then not much will change.i hope we have eduardo type signings that went under the radar until they were completed.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 12:49 pm

Not sure Osi, i’d definately like that commanding c/h at the back. Someone who is a focal point and can organise some of the dreamers in our back-four.
I’m hopefull that Miyaichi, Frimpong & Ramsey can get a few games and suprise us in much the same way as Jack did last season.
I think we need another striker.
And we need to get rid of the dead-wood. The thought of certain individuals still at my club come August really pisses me off.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 12:50 pm

SP, cheers pal, i get all my inspiration from reading your stuff 😉
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 12:52 pm

AK mata is a very good player who can play left/right of an attacking trident,as a trequartista or as a false nine.he is very quick but not as flashy as nasri.he is also more direct of the two.he creates loads of chances and he is also a decent scorer bagging 37 goals in the past 3 seasons.he is also very fit whereby he has only missed 9 league games in the past 3 seasons through injury.
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 12:52 pm

At the end of the day, i was looking at some early games from last season and we were playing some great stuff and i dont think were that bad yeh sure we had set backs but a few more strenghtheners and we could still be up there fighting, i dont believe we need rebuilding just upgrading, because we never won any thing last season does’nt mean were not good enough it means we relaxed our grip on things and didn’t have the experience to handle the situation.
osi on 9th July 2011 at 12:54 pm

AK we already signed Gervinho, didn’t we? I think we should get rid of Deni, Bend, Rosicky, AA, and buy players of better quality to replace them. Plus we need 1 great defender, appropriate Clichy replacement, and that’s it, providing NasFab stay.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 12:55 pm

Cheers KT. Sign him up i say… Versatile, scores goals, good fitness record, direct… Sounds the perfact package…
osi on 9th July 2011 at 12:55 pm

K,tr7 I agree Mata is a very good player, a tricky and technically astute player, Arsene should get him.
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 12:58 pm

Neymar’s agent has said that Madrid/Barca have been given permission to speak to Neymar but Barca will let him stay at Santos for 1 more year.Neymar however prefers a move to madrid.i know its a very very looooong shot but could our rumoured interest in Benzema be actually true in light of this news?could madrid be willing to let him go?
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 12:59 pm

Sounds good Osi, although i’m not sure about AA, i still think there’s a great player inside a guy who doesn’t really want to be stuck on the wing!
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 1:02 pm

Hi osi.AK Mata would be a brilliant signing.i’ve watched him since 2007 when Valencia signed him.he is very good.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 1:02 pm

KT, that would make my summer if it came to pass.
When i look at him, i see another TH14.
Not in style etc, but a great player who needs the shackles taken off and a team pattern that suits him…
osi on 9th July 2011 at 1:02 pm

AK AA is technically perfect, but that’s only half of makes a great footballer.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 1:04 pm

yeah Kt, i remember the pundits talking about him in terms of the next big thing at that club, when Silva and Villa were Valencia’s main men
osi on 9th July 2011 at 1:04 pm

Any news on Alfarez front?
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 1:07 pm

SteveP, we just run out of steam mate. That’s why January was so frustrating.
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 1:07 pm

I’m of the opinion that a good backline is the key to success a good goalkeeper is a must, Ches i have no doubts will become a great keeper but very seldom do young keepers come to the front a bit more training can see him be a great. Centre backs JD and Kosi are not good enough in my opinion JD looks lost at times and Kosi although keen makes to many mistakes, Gibbs will not handle a full season probably wont last a full game , but Virmin probably would if he has completely recovered. sort out the back line and i think we have the makings of a winning team, of course cover and i mean good cover for Sagna to
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 1:08 pm

Is that Alvarez Osi..? He joined Inter Milan mate…
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 1:10 pm

AK i live in hope that we finally see AA’s true form this season.he is infuriating to watch at times as flashes of genius are often followed by a lacklustre pass.despite him looking poor he scored 10 goals and bagged 18 assists.i also can see why Arsene hesitates to play him in the middle since he doesn’t have the stamina to do it in the PL.look at how long it took hleb to finally produce the goods playing there.Also AA himself said that in a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 he prefers playing left of the attacking three and as a 2nd striker in a 4-4-2.i believe there is a great player in him and i hope that fitness permitting we finally get to see him.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 1:14 pm

KT, why do you think he lacks stamina?
Do you suspect that he doesn’t look after himself, maybe in terms of diet?
Or is it just the way he is??
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 1:16 pm

SP, there are times when JD and LK can look really good players. And both put in some decent performances last season.
Concentration seems a problem for both of them…
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 1:20 pm

I must admit AA is a concern of mine, half a season he played and he was crap overweight and struggling how Wenger kept him on baffled me, he looked sprightlier at the end of the season than at the start but i would move him on he’s one of the oldest we have and it showed last season yes touches of briliance but he needs to go, get somthing while we still can because i believe he has had his day.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 1:20 pm

Osi, AA can be a frustrating player at times, but when he’s good, he’s very very good.
Not sure why he isn’t as direct as he used to be though?
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 1:22 pm

Although stats don’t show the entire picture there is a reason why nasri had 1 assist all season while AA had 18 despite not starting as many games as nasri.AA has that decisiveness/killer instinct to make decisions in a split second.Rvp has it,so does cesc.nasri despite scoring some sublime goals dallied on the ball too much breaking down our fast breaks.thats why Arsene doesn’t play him in the middle since our formation relies on that player to be the sole creator and nasri isn’t one yet.the reason the invincibles were so good was that our front 4 had that decisiveness to ensure 5 passes from a headed clearance by Campbell at one end resulted to a goal at the other end.thats why we play our best stuff when rvp/cesc/AA are on form playing at the same wavelength.
osi on 9th July 2011 at 1:23 pm

I’m very anxious about Arsenal transfer activity. When will we get some new buys? We need to get some players and sort out the contracts of the others sooner than later. Nasri should be offered that HE wants to stay with us, £110,000 a week is not a big wage for a player of such quality. Similar players are getting paid double of that and he and Wenger are well aware of that. You know, this morning a read an interview of Bryan Robson of ManU saying that players are not choosing where to go for only footballing reasons, and that they know they’re are clubs ready to pay them that financial award they’re after. He’s right, and no matter of what Nasri about what motivates him, money matters to all. And City and even United can offer him better than what he asked.
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 1:24 pm

AK I think AA’s stamina issues stem from the fact that he isn’t a natural athlete.
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 1:25 pm

I must admit though after his goal against Barca I could have shagged him but for me he’s had it
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 1:28 pm

AA reminds me of Puskas.he wasn’t a natural athlete but nonetheless a great player.he and the likes of Maradona were lucky that the game then was played at a slower pace and they were able to shine despite not being natural athletes.they used to cover 4/5 KMs a game compared to 11/12 KMs covered nowadays.
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 1:34 pm

Osi we have one player on over 100grand a week and he happens to be our captain, a wage structure is in place and the idea is to keep wages down. Arsenal run on what is taken through the gate and not by a wealthy owner backing up the take, if we pay Nasri the flood gates will open and Walcott will ask for the same and many others and the essence of running within our means would take a diferent direction
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 1:38 pm

The Gervinho signing hasn’t received much press coverage but i can see exactly why Arsene is going after him.i first saw him in the African Cup of Nations in 2006 when he came on as a sub for Arouna Kone in a match.i wondered who this guy was as he was full of direct running and dribbling.in the ACN of 2008 he was more established then and thus played more.i was so impressed with him and he replicated that form in ACN 2010 and WC2010.He is exactly what we lack.he is very good at making off the ball runs that ljunberg made and walcott makes.he will make us more dynamic and direct in attack.when we want to play on the counter he and theo will tear defences to shreds.he is a very good signing in my eyes.
osi on 9th July 2011 at 1:42 pm

SP I am well aware of our current wage structure and its justification, but we cannot leave it as it is at the moment because it was structure well before the current inflation caused by the emergence of Nouveau riche City and Chelsea, and now you see even ManU competing with them in wages. So if we want to keep up with those we need to change that wage structure all together, and put in place one that’s close to the competition.

that high wage is, only, for a higher quality and performance players; I don’t think Walcott has the quality nor the performance of Nasri to claim similar wages, and I don’t think any other player has excepting Fab, and VP.
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 1:43 pm

Almunia isn’t going to the Asia tour.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 1:43 pm

That sounds good KT.
When Theo isn’t on the field i felt, last season, that our build-up and counter-attacking was slow and predictable…
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 1:45 pm

Kt, more good news… Mate your on a roll 🙂
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 1:56 pm

Osi, preyyy fair comment there mate but we moan when ticket prices go up and we moan that transfer money is not there when we need it, you want quality signings the same as me, but wheres that money coming from. The normal man in the street is lucky to earn 30 thousand a year and you would be asking him to pay more to watch he’s beloved club while the football team players live in lixury, i know it isn’t fair with City and Chelsea paying fancy wages but thats the crux that teams that work to a budget have to consider.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 1:56 pm

The bad news is Denilson is on the plane!
Miyaichi, Frimpong, Nasri, Rosicky Traore also going.

Not going Bendtner, Fabianski and Bartley, oh and Cesc…
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 2:02 pm

We scored only 3 goals from counterattacks last season.the mancs had 5,barca had 8 and madrid 22.8 and madrid 22.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 2:08 pm

KT, that was always one of our strenghts.
Like when Gilberto got the quickest goal in Champions Lge/European Cup history…
One minute defending a corner, next half-a-dozen red shirts bombing forward…
Also recall destroying Leeds a couple of times at Elland Road.
Opponants would get a corner against us, and then start crapping themselves as they realised how vunerable they suddenly were…
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 2:09 pm

Madrid scored 24 not 22.
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 2:12 pm

AK also the game which we won the league at the spuds.defending a corner one minute vieira finishing the move off at the other end.
osi on 9th July 2011 at 2:24 pm

have a good time guys i’m leaving.
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 2:27 pm

by Osi
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 2:42 pm

KT, yeah, that was a great day at The Slum.
Henry tearing down the wing…
Should have buried them.
See ya Osi…
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 2:42 pm

Righto don’t larf, i’m off down the gym….. 🙂
rico on 9th July 2011 at 2:57 pm

😆 😆

kev, down the gym 😆 😆
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 2:59 pm

AK, Down “The Jim” more like it which is your local boozer 😀
rico on 9th July 2011 at 3:04 pm

Afternoon WATH and all 🙂

Or gone for a Jimmy 😉
rico on 9th July 2011 at 3:04 pm

Bet you are shocked that Fabregas isn’t going to Asia Wath… Not!
rico on 9th July 2011 at 3:11 pm

Can’t bel;ieve Lansbury and Bartley aren’t in there, and why is denilson in there…

no nik though 🙂
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 3:18 pm

I believe landsbury is on an extended break after his U21 exploits rico.
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 3:18 pm

Hi wath/rico.
Doc Brody on 9th July 2011 at 3:20 pm

I have to object to this article. It’s difficult not to comment in a way that doesn’t seem like a personal attack on allezkev, but when I see stuff like this, especially complaints about refs, I think, ‘Wow… Arsenal fans need to harden the f*ck up.’
rico on 9th July 2011 at 3:22 pm

Hi Kt, having a busy day today….
rico on 9th July 2011 at 3:25 pm

Hi Doc, we have had many a bad decision against us, especially last season….

Compare that to the gifts that the likes of Dowd and Webb give to the Mancs, If sme of our players ranted at the ref like Rooney does, they’d be off….

But its ok to disagree 😉
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 3:38 pm

Allo all…… Not really surprised Cesc not going and as 4 denilshit maybe wenger has a master plan to leave him in China…???????

Just shows how great he is that noone wants him also shows how overpaid the “deadwood” are that noone wants to pay their current wages either…! Says a lot really doesn’t it…!

I think it’s a spot on post from AK, harden up has nothing to do with the obvious and thats pretty clear to all and sundry that refs are normally bias against us…! As 4 the media I couldn’t give a rats arse what they write about us to be honest as I take no notice I would say though that it would be nice for the Arsenal PR/Communications people to be pro-active in these instances and make comments stating categorically articles in the press are utter fabrication and rubbish, maybe then the press might shut the f**k up…!
rico on 9th July 2011 at 3:41 pm

I’d be happy if denilson missed the plane home, what to make of no Bendtner??

No Fabianski either…..

And i still seething about Lansbury and Bartley not travelling….
Merlin96 on 9th July 2011 at 3:44 pm

KUALA LUMPUR – Malaysian police fired tear gas and water cannon, making 1,400 arrests on Saturday during clashes with protesters who defied government warnings to rally in the capital for electoral reform.

Leaders of opposition parties were among those detained during a massive security operation but it failed to thwart the outlawed demonstration which saw 50,000 citizens take to the streets of Kuala Lumpur, according to organisers.

Protesters faced baton-wielding riot officers in front of a downtown bus station, retreating at times and regrouping to push back police lines in a cat-and-mouse confrontation that took place in a downpour.

Some demonstrators fought back by picking up tear gas canisters which they lobbed at police, AFP reporters said.

Opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim was injured during the protest when he fell onto the pavement after a tear gas attack and was taken to a hospital as he was feeling unwell, an aide said.

The protesters dissolved into three main groups, and by late afternoon all were trying to force their way through a tight police cordon to a stadium and then to the king’s palace to hand over a memorandum detailing their demands.

The police line, however, held firm.

“Why is the government trying to intimidate citizens?” said Mohamad Manij Abdullah, 50, a businessman who joined the rally.

“We are only trying to reform elections and have a free and fair government,” he told AFP.

National police chief Ismail Omar told a news conference police had detained 1,401 people and were investigating them for illegal assembly although many were expected to be released on bail.

Ismail said barricades around the capital Kuala Lumpur which had turned it into a ghost town since midnight would be dismantled if there were no further incidents.

Among those arrested were protest leader Ambiga Sreenivasan and Maria Chin Abdullah. Ambiga told AFP she was freed later Saturday without being charged.

Abdul Hadi Awang, president of the Pan-Malaysia Islamic Party (PAS), the country’s largest Islamic opposition grouping, was also arrested.

The protesters rallied in several areas of the city but later began to disperse, said Subramaniam Pillay, one of the organisers, who described the day as “a great success”.

Student Chew Ai Nee, 30, said: “We have to take to the streets because we have not been given any opportunity to express our demands for change… the government cannot silence us when we march.”

Many of the protesters were shouting “Reformasi!” (Reforms), “God is great” and “Long Live the People.”

However, Mukhriz Mahathir, a leading member of the powerful United Malays National Organisation (UMNO), told AFP the government had to act to prevent anarchy.

“We cannot allow a minority group to protest and stir trouble in the country,” he said, accusing protesters of provoking the police into firing tear gas “so that they can accuse the government of being heavy handed.”

UMNO is the dominant party in the ruling Barisan Nasional coalition led by Prime Minister Najib Razak.

New York-based watchdog Human Rights Watch (HRW) denounced the arrests.

“This is a maelstrom of the Malaysian authorities’ own making,” said Phil Robertson, deputy director for HRW’s Asia Division.

Downtown Kuala Lumpur, normally a hive of activity on weekends, was deserted as major roads into the commercial and tourist district were sealed off.

Meanwhile, about 30 Malaysians living in South Korea rallied in Seoul in support, with another 80 marching through central Hong Kong.

Organisers had called for solidarity walks and demonstrations in countries including Australia, Cambodia, Japan, the United States and Taiwan.

The demonstrators want reforms, including the eradication of vote buying and the prevention of irregularities such as people illegally voting several times during elections.

Bersih, which organised the protest, wants to see the use of indelible ink to prevent multiple voting, equal access to the media for all parties and the cleaning-up of electoral rolls.

Malaysia’s opposition made major gains in 2008 elections against the ruling coalition but said they could have won more if voting rules were fair.

The country’s next elections are widely expected to be called early next year, with the opposition aiming to end Barisan’s half-century rule.

– AFP/ir
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/1139915/1/.html
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And Arsenal is flying directly into thsi political storm with the real danger that the match maybe manipulated into a political demonstration in frnt of a global televised audience.

Nice timing Gazadis.
Doc Brody on 9th July 2011 at 3:44 pm

I do disagree, but was trying to be humorous about it.

I don’t think that the stats really back up the claim that Arsenal suffer more bad calls, but even if they do, that’s not why we haven’t been winning silverware. Sometimes you get a bad bounce, or the wind is against you. Sometimes the sun is in your eyes. And sometimes you get a bad ref. Maybe it happens to you more than others. Maybe it doesn’t. But either way, harden up boys and get the job done ’cause life ain’t fair.

The press likes to pick on you? Boo hoo. Harden up.

That’s basically where I come out on all this.
rico on 9th July 2011 at 3:59 pm

Doc, oops – i didn’t watch the clip, i can’t access it, maybe that would have given me a clue 😉

Totally agree, this current squad is the reason we don’t win anything, nothing more, nothing less….
Doc Brody on 9th July 2011 at 4:07 pm

@ Rico: try doing a YouTube search for “Ronnie johns – chopper – harden up”

It’s an Australian thing, but it’s funny. Frankly, I think more than the fans, it’s our players that need to “Harden the f**k Up”
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 4:08 pm

Charles (AK) Atlas……
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 4:14 pm

Doc, totally agree that it’s not the sole reason we aint won trophies many a reason for that and 100% the players are total wimps wrapped in cotton wool, ok 85% of them are BUT the refs are totally against us and have been for yrs and thats not a moan or an excuse it’s fact through the eyes of watching us home and away for decades and getting home to see MOTD and others get away with what we don’t..! Have come to accept that we need to win to stuff that bias in their faces as well BUT our team lacks the backbone to sadly win a trophy to do that.
rico on 9th July 2011 at 4:25 pm

I will Doc, but i have to switch to another browser before i can do that 🙁

Afternoon Lee
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 4:29 pm

Grrrr. I could crush a grape… :P:
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 4:30 pm

Afternoon Gooners, has Gervinho signed yet Rico???
Merlin96 on 9th July 2011 at 4:30 pm

WATH, players are half the problem.
Just point your figners on the passiveness of Wenger on the bench.
Remember, 0-4 up at St James Park, DIaby sent off..and what did Wenger do to re-shape the team…….ZILCH!!!

January Transfer Window?
Where we were in an excellent position to win the title…..still in all cup competitions..
– defence needed reinforcement with Squillacia disater and Koscielny struggling…a comedy of error when both are playing
– RvP out injured
– TV out injured
– Cesc injured
– Arshavin, Nasri, Theo struggling for form
– Rosicky no where at his best
– CHamakh, Bendtner, not leading the line
– Midfield struggling and sputtering and losing its scoring touch.

Again, what did Wenger do…ZILCH!!!!
Doc Brody on 9th July 2011 at 4:31 pm

List of confirmed mentally “tough” players:
Van Persie.
Wilshire.

I can think of a few others, but thought i’d like to leave it open to others. Probably too late in the UK to get this going, but I’m very curious what others think. For me, being tough doesn’t mean being big. It means trying to the end, when hope seems lost. It means not loosing your head and lashing out like diaby against Newcastle.
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 4:33 pm

All good points Merlin and lets be honest not for the first time in a January window were we one or two signings possibly away from winning things or trying to stay the course…! same mistakes year after year ! we’ll never know if a signing or two would of made any difference or not but they surely would not of hurt..?!?!?!?!

You ok AK, you need oxygen…?
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 4:36 pm

Sagna, Ramsey and TV to that list Doc and i’d say thats about it….!
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 4:36 pm

Wath 😆 nah, just a pint of lager mate
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 4:36 pm

Oh and bang goes all the good from the workout you just had AK lol
rico on 9th July 2011 at 4:44 pm

Hi Merlin, kev

No news yet, according to afc.com

‘The imminent signing of Lille striker Gervinho has not been completed in time for him to join the part’
rico on 9th July 2011 at 4:45 pm

I think Frimpong will be one that is to be added to that list to Wath….
Merlin96 on 9th July 2011 at 4:45 pm

Mentality tough?

1 – Fabianski must be one tough nut to come back with such performances in 2010/11 season after those horrendous clangers in 2009/10 season.

2 – Van Persie – yes, a fighter with a mean streak.

3 – Wilshere – never backdown, a volatile character….a few red cards next season.

4 – Vermaelen – oone mean mothaf**ker!

5 – Ramsey – no not yet…..a bit apprehensive and yet to establish himself – open verdict

6 – Denilson – he stopped playing for Arsenal since last season.

7 – and then we have SPanish puta, french poodles, pretty boys and bottlers…..and I can’t pick one from the rest of the bunch that I cna honestly said “mentally tough”..and than includes our resident Capitan Spanish Puta.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 4:46 pm

Hi Rico, you just have to scatch your bonce. How can it be so difficult to conclude a simple transfer…
rico on 9th July 2011 at 4:48 pm

What is so very wrong with out squad is summed up quite easily, the one position that is not in that list is our defensive midfield player!
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 4:48 pm

That clip was the bee’s knees thats what we need a bit of tougness get in there biting and kicking and fuck the reporters
Merlin96 on 9th July 2011 at 4:49 pm

Rico,
Frimpong and COquelin not proven yet.
But I like the way they went into tackles with no fear of bodily harm and injuries.
But when pressures begin to pile-up and you need to fight in a closed game..then and only then we will know if they are bottlers as well….

Both of ’em, including youngsters like Lansbury, Bartley, JET, COnor Henderson, Miquel, et al must be thrown into a “furnace” and then, and only tehn we will know whether they will emerge as tempered steel or pig-iron and malleable iron like current lots.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 4:52 pm

Bartley did ok in Scotland… But he’s not on the plane.
Merlin96 on 9th July 2011 at 4:52 pm

Yeah Rico.
I am pretty worried as the team will be flying into Kuala Lumpur on Sunday with the city in a turmoil in the aftermath of that riot.

Is the team going to train under a haze of tear gas to toughen ’em up?
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 4:54 pm

Merlin just like a trip to the Lane
rico on 9th July 2011 at 4:56 pm

Don’t you just kev…

Merlin, i know Frimpong is not proven but he is a fiesty little bugger – he would have shoved denilson out of the squad had he not got injured, i am sure… he’s one for the future and i like what he has been saying too…

I meant Song though, he’s hardly mr muscle.. 😉
Merlin96 on 9th July 2011 at 4:56 pm

LOL..Steve….
rico on 9th July 2011 at 5:04 pm

Merlin, i just read your earlier, not good 🙁
rico on 9th July 2011 at 5:04 pm

Steve, just got your email, thank you 🙂
rico on 9th July 2011 at 5:06 pm

That is what narks me so much – what has Wenger done in this transfer window to make us believe that Bartley will not be needed next season??

Squlli or Bartley???

Easy!!
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 5:08 pm

Bartley may not be fit Rico he had ligament injury right at the end of last season so maybe he’s just doing an extended pre-season and we’ll see him in the emirates cup or does it hint that wenger is gonna bring one or two centre backs in…? ok ok I really shouldn’t be saying positive things like that 😀
rico on 9th July 2011 at 5:17 pm

I forgot that WATH, thanks – I was all on my high horse then, thinking about it, didn’t Lansbury suffer an injury too and played little part in Norwich run in??

And yes, go wash your mouth out Mr Positive 😉
rico on 9th July 2011 at 5:19 pm

Apparently, Nik and Almunia are left out as they are in negotiations over moves away from the club….
rico on 9th July 2011 at 5:20 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14094433.stm

:P:
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 5:28 pm

It’s all good news on here today 🙂
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 5:30 pm

AK, nothing like a pint after a work out….makes it all seem worth while!! Lol I appreciate that this transfer business is not as straight forward as we are lead to believe but FFS, Arsenal really can make mountains out of molehills can’t they??
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 5:40 pm

Yeah Lee, when i go into my local the guy behind the bar says “The usual Mr Atlas” 😆
That’s right, if they can string it out mate, they seem happy to do so.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 5:41 pm

So that’s Diaby, Cesc and Bartley still injured…
Business as usual…
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 5:41 pm

Did i read right was that Wath who wrote about new signings
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 5:43 pm

Rico, you watching the England Ladies?
What’s the score???
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 5:46 pm

AK the only reason he calls you Mr Atlas is because the wrinkles look like you have been digging holes all over the world
rico on 9th July 2011 at 5:47 pm

kev, watching the cricket 😳

0-0 in the footie, half time 🙂
K-TR7 on 9th July 2011 at 5:52 pm

I saw theo say we are going to hold an open training session in Asia with 50000 fans to be expected in attendance.denilson has no skill at all and will look like a mug in the midst of the likes of rvp/nasri…
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 5:53 pm

About the injury news, i bet a peny to a pinch of s–t gibbsys next
rico on 9th July 2011 at 5:53 pm

Steve 😆
rico on 9th July 2011 at 5:57 pm

Guys, I have to go now, friends for dinner – might pop back later, well, if I can type sense 😉

Thanks again for todays post Kev,

Catch you all soon 🙂
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 5:59 pm

In all honesty KT Denny can play a bit and i don’t really understand whats become of him, maybe a jult may just get him going again, as i can’t see too many coming in for him, how longs his contract for anyone
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 6:05 pm

there’s me thinking cannibalism was a myth…enjoy Rico ;0
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 6:06 pm

😉 😉 😉
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 6:06 pm

Night Rico hope your not cooking
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 6:25 pm

Steve please get is straight I was merely speculating and as you know speculation is a big no no 😉 my sincere apologies…

Fuck me Lee I didnt know you were psychic and guessed AK’s surname was Atlas…. clever arse…! 😉
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 7:01 pm

WATH, yeah you came over all positive earlier…..tut tut!
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 7:02 pm

Lee, It wasn’t positive it was a moment of weakness mate 😀

It was one of those “if only” moments…………..
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 7:30 pm

SP, Wath, cheers lads… 😉
England won the cricket, where’s Shrek, i want to gloat…. 🙂
Lee do you think Rico is having dinner with a nice chianti…?
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 7:39 pm

No one picked up on it but you Charles!! 🙂
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 7:49 pm

They’re both watching the women’s footie Lee…
You know what they’re like, a bit of a women’s leg and they go gaga. 😀
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 7:50 pm

No ruby for you tonight buddy?
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 7:57 pm

Wonder which clubs are talking to Bendtner and Almunia?
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 8:20 pm

Had one last night AK….bloody lovely mate!! You know that NB will probably score goals for someone (when not played as a winger) glad it’s not us though….as for the waiter he’ll leak goals for whoever!!! Germany for NB? Iberian peninsular for Manuel….
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 8:22 pm

You never know though NB could go to Fulham/ QPR/Everton…..swap him for baines!!! 😉
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 8:24 pm

This mata dude would be good if it happens…..
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 8:34 pm

Anywhere for either of em as far as I am concerned and denilshit after his toy out the cot comments should never ever be allowed anywhere near the first team squad…!
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 8:42 pm

Maybe AW has taken Denilson to play him, in order to sell him.
Putting him on e-bay was a larf, but it certainly affected his transfer value…
As for NB, i think you’re right Lee, but he reminds me of Jeff Astle, likely to let you down on the big occassion…
Mata would be superb Lee…
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 8:46 pm

Perhaps denison will be water boy…?
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 8:46 pm

Baines is good, but not worth what Everton would want…
I suspect that Moyes would be looking for a Lescott style windfall.
Wenger will probably be having a close look at Gibbs and Traore in pre-season, before deciding whether or not to sign a new left-back…
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 8:49 pm

Wath i don’t care mate, as long as he’s not on AFC’s books in 50 odd days time 😯
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 8:54 pm

I’d let the numbnuts go for free just to get rid of him and also make a statement…!
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 8:58 pm

We could do with losing a bit more dead wood….trouble is certain clubs paying over the odds for players fucks it for everyone else! Baines is not a £20m player is he?
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 9:01 pm

So members of AW ‘s “best ever squad” that are surplus to requirements, there’s no mad bidding war going on…..
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:05 pm

Just had look at this web site

http//journalisted.com/

We’re watching you, you back-stabbing cnuts…
Some of the info on Docklands ‘finest’ was a bit vague unfortunately…
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:06 pm

shit, it must be
http://journalisted.com/
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 9:06 pm

Trouble is AK is that dennilson is on a contract if no one comes in for him we still have to pay his wage and the same for a few more
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:08 pm

Good article on Untold Arsenal about the Press campaign against Arsenal…
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:11 pm

I know Steve, it’s a catch 22, and to think he cost £3.4million and has played about 150 games… It’s sickening
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 9:12 pm

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/%E2%80%AAdennis-bergkamp-scores-wonder-goal-ajax-training%E2%80%AC%E2%80%8F-12680643/
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 9:13 pm

he certainly hasn’t lost that touch…..
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 9:15 pm

how much would denilson be on per week?
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 9:16 pm

they also done a bit on referee’s which was pretty good, so if he’s played that amount of games and you put what he cost us he was’nt such a bad buy although he turned out shit he filled a position for quite somtime
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:21 pm

Lee, i think it’s somewhere between 50K and 60K, about the same as Diaby…
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:24 pm

Couldn’t bring it up Lee. But You-Tube have a load of Dennis’ finest moments.
A case of you don’t always realise what you have until it’s gone…
I don’t think i’ve ever seen another Arsenal player come anywhere near the level that Bergkamp touched in 1997-98. A genius…
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:26 pm

Steve, Untold have a lot of really interesting historical pieces as well as the referee-watch stuff…
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 9:26 pm

No wonder we’ve an astronomical wage bill….wastes of internal organs like him on £2.5/£3m a year, what a joke!
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 9:26 pm

AK think your right re the money it’s between 40 and 50K a week not quite as much as sicknote biabolical and as said hence we can’t get rid of these so called brillinat players from the best squad ever, spot on Lee hardly having our doors knocked in with clubs desperate to buy these players eh…! So obviously while we’re away we now got 7 more days where we won’t buy anyone…????
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 9:28 pm

It’s DB scoring in training for Ajax recently…… It’s on nn
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 9:28 pm

Thats why our wage bill is so high Lee your right mate we pay average players far to much and then not choose to pay the better players top wages to keep them and keep them happy…! If we cut down on the mediocre we may attract better quality players..?
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 9:29 pm

I have read somewhere………. yes yes I know never trust what you read lol BUT it said Gazidis is on 1.7million a year…! I wonder…….
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 9:34 pm

I also read our annual wage bill is £40m more tha the yids……
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:34 pm

Steady on Wath… or you’ll start coming over all positive again 🙂
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 9:36 pm

AK, I’m getting worried……
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:37 pm

Lee, how does our wage bill compare with ManUre, Cittie, Chavs and Scousers?
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:38 pm

Lee 😆 yeah, next he’ll be agreeing with Will…..
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 9:40 pm

I think we’re 4th…..
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 9:41 pm

We’re about 10/15mill less than the chavs n citeh n manure I think and 10mil more than the dippers….!

AK i can see another loooooooooooooooooooong boring quiet week ahead mate def nothing much to be positive about…!
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:41 pm

Not bad for a club in crisis, that’s if you believe the sewer rats of Docklands.
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 9:41 pm

Not 100% on that Kev…
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:44 pm

Was it ever thus during the close season mate…
I just hope we don’t have to wait until after the season has kicked off before Le Stubborn brings in a couple of players…
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 9:45 pm

All the media negativity towards the team, surely that should used to wind the team up? Fuck the press et al….
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 9:48 pm

Nice to see the statement of intent…. Strengthen the defence,get an out and out goal scorer,get them all bedded in, ready for the off!!
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 9:48 pm

Lee, that’s exactly what Fergie does if the Mancs get any adverse publicity.
It’s what George Graham used to do.
I wish that Wenger would do likewise…
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 9:52 pm

Obstinate French fucker…..shit or bust transfer window for him, you think? Or the board happy with “top four trophy”? Saying that, fourth won’t be easy next season will it?
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 9:56 pm

If Stan sits back and is happy with whats going on and doesn’t make it known he expects better next season and for us to be pro-active in the transfer market don’t you reckon thats a sign he’s in it for the short term and not the long haul..?
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 10:00 pm

Lee, we still have over 50 days before the Window closes.
I’m gonna judge him on Sept 1st…
I know it doesn’t look good at the moment, but we just have to hope that he pulls a couple of rabbits out of his hat…
4th will be hard, very hard if he loses Cesc & Nasri and doesn’t bring in some quality additions…
Mind you, we were well written off 12 months ago. We were supposed to finish below L’pool and the Scum. In reality AFC should have definately finished above ManCity. The finish to the season was very very poor.
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 10:03 pm

Wath, i really am not sure about Stan.
Rico is convinced that he’s in it for a quick profit, and she may well be right…
I cannot work out why Lady Nina would sell to Stan and not make a bigger killing by selling to Ursmanov?
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 10:06 pm

Don’t forget the start of last season lads they gave us no chance not in the top six and they got a bit of a shock fucking shocked me too i was no better believing we were going to get a few hidings but fuck me they played some great stuff early on. This team can be a lot better no mistake but we almost won the league last year and i believe if we had brought two pucker CD we would have done it too
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 10:12 pm

she sold to him because the other shareholder also sold to him plus she got the hump with all the old farts on the board not willing to move on, she maybe right but i reckon a bit of new blood wouldnt go amiss
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 10:13 pm

I know it’s all if’s and but’s, but if RVP has an injury free season, with Vermaelen back, Ramsey back, Jack a year older & stronger, Nasri stays, Frimpong makes progress, AFC get Mata and Cahill….
Blimey, we’re gonna win the league…. 😆
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 10:13 pm

Funny you say that Steve cos last season I was actually quite upbeat I thought we were a lot better than ppl gave us credit for and yet again we got to Jan and wenger sat on the cheque book when he could of bought and made a difference yet again but didn’t…! Have you heard The Vermaelen new player comment…..? he really is taking the piss with that rubbish…! No its not a new player arsene its a player back from yet another injury that we seem to get year after year…!

AK, think I’m sort of with Rico on Stan, he is giving off no vibes that he’s really interested at all and certainly isn’t on a charm offensive is he…? I heard and read that Nina sold to him purely due to DF saying he thought he was the better option…!
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 10:19 pm

I reckon she wanted out she probably wanted the cash too, the money was sitting there and not doing to much, with the board we have inplace and not moving to change us that much she probably thought she could invest it in somthing that might actuall earn her somthing
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 10:20 pm

Wath, i still think it’s strange. These people are supposed to be serious business types.
Mind you Lady Nina quickly changed her mind on Twitter.
Criticising Dein one moment, then kissing his arse when the fan’s feedback was seen to be pro-Dein…
I wouldn’t trust any of them.
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 10:23 pm

Usmanov is worth so much money i cant believe he wouldnt want to get more involved, fucking about with a share here and a share there sounds a strange way for a guy with that emense wealth
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 10:23 pm

I definately am not sure about Urmanov, but with him i think we’d see more investment in the team…
Probably with a different manager…
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 10:26 pm

Steve, would you prefer both Stan and Ursmanov on the Board or maybe one or the other, as it is now?
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 10:27 pm

Not so sure on that AK, don’t forget Dein went to Usmanov, he would I reckon get Dein back to kick wenger up the arse and get him back on track maybe…? I don’t trust the board now though that’s for sure the way they have lined thier own pockets and given us so much bullshit is a joke…! the fact they all still there is an insult to all Arsenal fans !!
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 10:31 pm

that maybe what he’s waitjng for Ak a change in manager If Wenger is one thing and that is loyal. Wath maybe if we had had Virmin for the whole season perhaps the feeling in the squad may have been diferent
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 10:31 pm

To be honest Wath, i’ve no idea what PHW, Harris and Keswick are doing, still in the Boardroom… What is the point of them.??
The club can surely run with just Friar, Gazidis and Fox [is that right] at the helm…
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 10:34 pm

I’m starting to feel a bit knackered. Must be the gym 😉
allezkev on 9th July 2011 at 10:35 pm

Think i’ll wish you guys goodnight….
See ya all tomorrow..
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 10:39 pm

Nte AK get on the vodka son bucks you up and good post today mate i thoughly enjoyed the read
Lee on 9th July 2011 at 10:41 pm

Buenos noches amigos
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 10:41 pm

to answer that question, the way the two are nicking shares i wouldnt think they could work together i get the impression that there could be a fight between the two of them pretty soon then fuck knows what would happen
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 10:45 pm

Can’t argue with you there Steve but when wenger knew Vermin was fucked then we all knew he needed to buy and yet again he didnt…! Far to cautious and never ever pro-active enough with transfers…! If one thing the team being scared is a reflection of him off the pitch in the transfer market..? Must be those lagers after you’d been down the Jim AK….. 😉
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 10:46 pm

Night AK, sleep well ole fella 😉

Chat 2moro mate…!
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 10:47 pm

I think Stan just keeping Usnamov at arms length Steve to get him in a position where Usmanov then offers to buy Stans shares and then he’s gone like the wind with a nice tidy profit…!
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 10:51 pm

I must admit i agree with you there Wath, he took a big chance with sqilly and Kosi but he must have realised he made a mistake and as you say with virmin getting injured fucked him up good, i know the money thing is probably the reason that he never bought in January he probably spent his quoter in the summer but that is the time the board should have stepped in and made funds available ten to fifteen mill then could have made all the difference
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 10:59 pm

He certainly didnt spend his quota in the summer Steve, he spent hardly anything yet again last summer 10 on Kos n Squilli…! He was just to stubborn to spend in Jan yet again mate…….. How many years have we got to January and though, if we buy a player or two here even an older head it will help get these kids over the line…..! If you mad ethe same mistakes at work you’d get fired…..! Oh and “NO” Will thats not me saying wenger should be sacked BUT it’s a very valid point and example of what he’s allowed to get away with and this total lack of accountability..!
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 11:01 pm

lol have you seen the corker of a story on NN with the daily mail headline we’re nicking Downing from under Liverpools noses, pls pls pls dont let us buy him for god sake… another crock and why would we want him when Young went for the same money and is twice the player..? surely not…???????
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 11:03 pm

With close on 18 billion in his bin he should make the fucking offer and start the ball rolling get some new guys in and if it means a new manager so be it
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 11:08 pm

Dont you worry Wath, were linked to the cat down the street he’s going up front for us and flying out on tour and all he asks for are the scraps on the table, mind you if he’s fucked he may just fit in well with these injury prone wasters
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 11:10 pm

I think the club need a good shake up from the top Steve and the board are the biggest problem they have procrastinated for years lived off the back of one or two who have done things and mae things happen DF and Friar and now they counting the shekels as we just tread water, they complacent and happy with mediocrity it seems, someone needs to take over and have the ambition to take us to the next level on and off the pitch so we are indeed a european power house of a club…!
W.A.T.H on 9th July 2011 at 11:12 pm

lol…….. scary thought Steve, I am worried we’ll go get woodgate and Hargreaves but i here we saved from Hargreaves at least as Sven has signed him up for Leicester…!

I bid you a goodnight mate am off to watch a bit of the goggle box and then off to me pit…! chat 2moro mate..!
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 11:17 pm

What i can’t take in Wath is that Usmanov has bundles what the fuck is he doing here if he dosn’t want to take over, I’m with you with your ideas but i cant understand why its hanging in the balance they must disagree somwhere along the line, after all it can only be money. perhaps Usmanov is not prepared to pay the pension the board have asked for
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 11:20 pm

Nte mate sleep tight mate.
Steve Palmer on 9th July 2011 at 11:23 pm

if anybody is still out there, a good night to you. and hey be careful out there.
rico on 10th July 2011 at 9:53 am

morning…..
rico on 10th July 2011 at 10:27 am

new post up
adam on 31st July 2011 at 7:21 pm

W.A.T.H couldn’t agree more. Old Arsene, because that what he looks these days, is forever harping on about the way he would like things to be. He is Mr Financial Fair Play. Mr yesterday. Mr High Moral Ground. Trouble is that he has become completely detached from reality. This bloke could see positive signs in a 6-0 defeat as long as it didn’t cost any money. For Chrissakes Wenger, let the board do their jobs. You pick the players you want and let them find the money. What’s that? We haven’t got any? We are paupers who exist on sweat while all the big bad boys swan around on petrol? We take over £3 million at every home game, spend less than just about anyone, raise season tickets against all advice and common sense and it leaves you dizzy and we still have no money? Why the f–k did we leave Highbury then? Surely it couldn’t have been so we could have a centre back pairing of Djourou and Squillaci.

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