Morning all.
Today is a look back on 2015-16 and 2016-17, starting with 15/16 and the transfer window.
- Petr Cech
Yep, that was it. An awful transfer window is the only way I can describe that summer. Mo Elneny joined the following January. What a missed opportunity that season was because we ended up finishing second behind Leicester City, the club who we did the double over.
Arsene Wenger started the new season by getting one over Mourinho at Wembley in the Community Shield thanks to an Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain goal.
Another opening day defeat, this one at the hands of West Ham at The Emirates, was hardly the ideal start to the new campaign but we didn’t lose another game until the middle of September, which surprise surprise, came at Stamford Bridge. Another good run saw us go unbeaten until the middle of November when West Brom dealt us 2-1 in the Black Country. Boxing Day and I remember this one like it was yesterday. Southampton at St Marys and a 4-0 thrashing by the south coast club. Embarrassing. Clubs sat in the bottom half of the table were causing us problems. Draws at Stoke and Southampton at The Emirates in January really dented our Premier League challenge, as did another defeat at the hands of Chelsea. Two wins in February followed by two defeats, the first at Old Trafford, the second at The Emirates against Swansea City and the three draws in April pretty much gifted Leicester City their Premier League trophy. We finished second.
Any hope of making it three in a row in the FA Cup was dashed by Watford in the quarterfinals, whilst Sheffield Wednesday dumped us out of the League Cup in the fourth round. As for the Champions League, those pesky Catalans did us again…
2016/17
The first new player through Arsenal’s door was Granit Xhaka, followed by Takuma Asano, Rob Holding, youngster Kelechi Nwakali, Lucas Perez and lastly, Shkodran Mustafi. I still can’t believe that Arsenal paid £35 million for Mustafi. Anyway, barring Xhaka and at a push, Holding, they were all a waste of money.
This season turned out to be a bit of a turning point for Arsene Wenger. It was the first time Arsenal finished outside the Champions League places in 5th. Bayern Munich battered us in the Champions League by a 10-2 score line over the two knockout legs, a 5th round defeat in the League Cup and the unrest amongst fans was growing. The bright side of the campaign though was a FA Cup Final victory over Chelsea. Not even that though was enough to prevent demands for change.
The decline of Arsenal Football Club was evident both on the pitch and off it. Despite spending money on new players, the quality of a number of them had not been good enough. The ownership battle needed resolving, as did the position of Arsene Wenger. A great manager, of that this is no doubt but the game had been passing him by for a while.
The 2017/18 and 2018/19 seasons turned out to be about changes at the club but more about that next time.
The transfer window is officially open now and Arsenal are being linked to a number of players. Christos Tzolis, Jeremy Monga, Morgan Rogers, Ayyoub Bouaddi, Morgan Gibbs-White and Bradley Barcola to name a few. All attacking players which is music to my ears..
I didn’t watch Sweden’s game overnight but apparently Isak and Viktor Gyokeres linked up really well in their 5-1 defeat of Tunisia. Both scored and assisted each other, but what made me laugh in the report on Sky Sports was this sentence “They are two of the finest forwards in world football” – would this be the same player whose been slated throughout the season by his colleagues on the same broadcasting channel?
I did watch Netherlands play Japan and thoroughly enjoyed it. Japan are just great.
Catch up in the comments.

Kev, reports are Morgan has told Villa he wants to leave.
We could have another Rice scenario.
Morning Geoff, you have a long wait. lol
Can’t believe Messi got away with that one.
New post up by the way.
Morning all.
I guess our local shop ran out Kev, too many courses 😜
I’ve never been on one..
Morning Rico and all.
Can’t wait for the world cup to finish, so our players don’t get injured, especially when you see the tackle that Messi put on with his studs going down the other players leg and yet he gets away with it.
I’ve done two speed awareness courses, the first was in Gt Yarmouth and the guy lecturing was an ex-navy C P O with a very loud voice, everybody paid strict attention. The second was during covid and was done over Zoom and was a lot more professional and interesting. Much better than getting points the license. 😉
So Potter, I’m guessing that you wasn’t offered the driver awareness course?
Thats a bummer…
Rico, Hand of Arsenal is pretty reliable, but we know, from past experience, how difficult Villa are to negotiate with, Douglas Luiz for example…
I’ve been on a couple of those courses Rico, Essex Police do very nice biscuits indeed.
I did the Met one on ‘Teams’ I think it was called, a little surreal but at least I was at home so my biscuits were excellent. 😂
Yep, rotten luck. We all speed at one time or another..
so you did get caught by a camera? Some flash but don’t actually record anything. 🤞
It must have recorded because the notice of intended prosecution arrived today, I think I remember a flash but I was tired and my wife was dozing . It’s just life I will have to suck it up.
France and Senegal are nil nil half time , Saliba is playing.
@HandofArsenal
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Morgan Rogers Update
• Morgan Rogers has given preference to joining the English champions. Other clubs are still actively in the race but acknowledge the player’s current preference.
• Morgan Rogers has respectfully communicated his desire to leave to senior figures at Villa (significant).
• Personal terms have been explored and are not a hindrance at all.
• Morgan Rogers is sold on the Mikel Arteta project and plan for him.
• Morgan Rogers was on the shortlist of attacking reinforcements Arsenal discussed last summer.
• My understanding is that Villa and Arsenal are in contact through unofficial channels regarding any potential deal. Remember my words: the fee is key to this deal. The player is fully on board.
• Andrea Berta has asked to be kept fully informed about any other club making a move for Morgan. If Arsenal do make a move, there will be another update.
Chelsea, in particular, have been pleading with Morgan to showcase their plan for him, but as of today, the response is “Arsenal.” Manchester United have also explored the situation of Morgan, with Carrick being a big fan.
Bradley Barcola and one other player are also of interest to Arsenal. Details on that in due time.
Arsenal are also in direct contact with multiple midfielders, as recently as a few days ago. The likes of Bouaddi, Scott, Kone, Larsson, and two others. As I mentioned yesterday, we are yet to make contact with any club officially while Berta explores personal terms with all of them. One of these players is convinced he is joining Arsenal. It’s important to remember that Livramento also felt the same way, but it highlights how strong the conversations are.
Arsenal are also monitoring the Madrid midfielder situation. Tonali was offered to us in January; talks have never surpassed personal terms as of today. These clubs are using Elliot Anderson’s deal as a market scale. Newcastle want crazy money, as do Palace for Wharton.
Re Christos Tzolis, I’ve not seen anything which suggests we have agreed a deal or that we’re close to.
I’m confused, so you did get caught by a camera? Some flash but don’t actually record anything. 🤞
My mum went on one of those courses. All she said after was there were no biscuits… lol
Ha ha Kev.
Gooseberries are lovely in a crumble. My parents used to grow them and I soon learned to not eat them before they are ripe… lol
A driver awareness course hopefully I suppose I passed my test in 1974 it was a matter of time.
Sometimes Dev, the players that arrived low key, at mid-range prices turn out to be excellent value for money. The young lad from Leicester (Monga) looks to be pretty much a done deal as well.
I used to have a cherry tree when I lived in Kent, but the birds nicked most of them, gooseberries are a very underrated fruit Potter.
You’ll probably get offered a driver awareness course if you’ve not been nicked for three years, it’s pricey but better than 3 points.
Thank you so very much Rico, #sarky 😉
Thats a relief then Potter..
I too liked Xhaka Devil, certainly to begin with but his lack of discipline cost us. That Liverpool game when he got into a exchange of words with Alexander-Arnold (I think) still irks me.
Didn’t particularly like him for his outburst at the fans either.
Good afternoon beautiful people
Rico, its always good reading your posts, but mentioning Mustafi brings the shudders. That man was a walking disaster. I think AW had a brain fart when he spent €35M on him.
I never liked him.
Xhaka was a different beast for me. I always liked him even before he came to us. Some dont (Pa was one of them) but if I had to be in trenches I would want him beside me.
Arsenal have reportedly reached an agreement with Club Brugge to sign Christos Tzolis!
The 24-year-old left winger has accepted the move, with Andrea Berta playing a key role in getting the deal over the line. Personal terms were never an issue, as the Greece international was fully committed to joining the Gunners. Final paperwork to be completed this week. Tzolis expected to travel to the Emirates once the deal is formally sealed
Capable of playing on the left and centrally, Tzolis adds creativity, directness and goals to Mikel Arteta’s attack.
And the business may not stop there, with a deal for Morgan Rogers also reportedly edging closer. Rogers stated that he wants to be with Arsenal
not a normal one just put there for the diversion .
Was it a camera flash?
It opened yesterday Kev. #mebeingpedantic…
We could start a market garden Kev , Strawberries , Cherries , Grapes , apples and pears too on the wonderful sunny Norfolk Broads .
On other news coming back from Cyprus 19 1/2 hours after leaving our hotel room I got done for doing 35 in a 30 limit at 4.26 am having been diverted off of the main road due to roadworks. No roadworks , no fine , no points and home an hour earlier .
welcome back to the U.K.
If Tuchel wants Saka for the later stages , he should be wrapping him in ice and a cotton wool blanket. Hopefully then we get knocked out early and he doesn’t play at all.
Afternoon Gooners, I believe that the summer transfer window officially opens today, how exciting…
In other news my tomatoes, onions and rhubarb are doing really well in the garden. The spuds are looking promising as well.
Morning all,
Spain were poor last night,dominated possession,pass pass pass. Some great chances,to be fair the Cape Verde goalkeeper was outstanding. I suppose at least they didn’t lose. Raya on the bench which is hard to understand.
Morning Cicero, I’d rather he didn’t play at all if he’s not 100%
Good morning all.
Warm and sunny here this morning and no rain forecast. 😎
I read that Saka has declared himself fit (enough?) to start Wednesday’s game. Clearly he is still suffering from the Achilles injury he picked up back in March.
Rather than start I would prefer a thirty minute second half cameo.
Re Walcott, I think he could have been a top player at a different club.
BBD yes it was an unedifying period in our recent history , it created divides which somewhat like Brexit will take a generation or two to heal . Even now despite winning the league and good European runs , you still hear Arteta referred to as Wenger mk2. Despite living on the early years where it has to said he lived on the abilities of the famous back 5 without whom he could never have built the attacking team that he did in his defence we did have a few glory years .
However in retrospect we all look back and know that it carried on too long .
It’s interesting to note that he went off with a bang and things tapered off as time went by as opposed to Arteta who struggled to start and we can only hope that the team that he has built can carry it on forward .
|The proof of the pudding will be to see how the obvious team spirit is retained as new faces are bought in and some of the stalwarts disappear.
It was Dennis, add in the ownership tug of war and it’s easy to see why so many fans were either angry or talking with their feet.
The Wenger being tied to the loan story is something Arsene himself said when on Desert Island Discs. His loyalty to the club came first. He turned down a number of “big” jobs to stay during that time. I think the club was a rudderless ship back then.
There’s no doubting that once the ownership battle was resolved, things improved.
Morning all.
Very interesting, Rico, and probably the most vitriolic period in the clubs history.
It appears from what you have said, Arsenal were held to ransom by the Banks regarding Wenger.
There was a clear divide between those clinging to the hope that Wenger still had his ‘magic hat’, and the growing number who believed it was gone forever and agitated for him to go.
It was very unedifying, almost circus-like with Robbie growing traction from his AFTV vehicle designed to bring more unwanted attention and add more fuel to the toxicity.
It didn’t help that big players left and there was a clear downgrade in key areas.
Arsenal should never have lost Ashley Cole to Chelsea, and that was the beginning whole demise (poor Kieron Gibbs’ career was ruined at 18, when he was thrown in against Ronaldo in the 2009 CL semi-final, and he slipped for their first goal).
Theo did his best, but was seriously over-hyped from his fledgling stint in the Championship with Southampton.
I never hated Theo – it wasn’t his fault – but he just didn’t have it against the best.
The poster-boy for the Emirates never quite delivered.
There was a lack of any real clarification or communication between the club and fans over the clubs resources and ability to compete, but Nasri and Fabregas leaving in the summer of 2011 wasn’t good. With other ‘events’ like Wembley and later Old Trafford, it is a year best forgotten.
Then the whole van Persie controversy, where after a chat with Wenger and Gazidis about the ‘direction of the club’, neither could give him the assurances he wanted, so he decided to leave.
Was he a bit disloyal after the club nursed him through so many injury problems? Yes, a little, it should have ended a lot better and a lot of Arsenal fans were angry at the way he left.
Strange then, in 2013, Ivan Gazidis told everyone that Arsenal were financially strong and ‘could afford any player in the world, with the exception of Messi and Ronaldo’.
With the above statement in mind, Arsenal lined up against Bayern Munich in CL Rnd of 16 in 2014, with Yaya Sanogo leading the attack.
Of course the three FA cups were worth winning, but they were masking deeper issues at the club that weren’t being addressed.
Looking back on 2010/11-2018 period, I think Wenger leaned very heavily on his success at Highbury to try and justify why he stayed around too long.
We’ll probably never know why Wenger lost his competitive mojo to become more corporate, maybe it’s linked with the departure of his friend and ally David Dein.
Personally, I wanted him gone after the 8-2 at OT, but his leaving was long drawn out and painful for us.
The Greens give me mental health issues Kev…
Emma Hayes must be one of the most dreary pundits in the game.
Absolutely Rico, fingers crossed they don’t split the vote, but listening to the Greens you can easily see why they appeal to people with mental health issues.
Good job you don’t watch the T20 WC Cicero. Lol
Kev, I hope the Restore voters use a bit of common sense..
So far I’ve used highlights on YouTube to keep me in the loop, Francia was quite amusing and the Nippons entertaining.
It does me too Potter, if the man who has taken up lodgings in Makerfield wins, I would call a GE if I was Starmer. 😜
Yes Rico, unfortunately the spectre of Burnham is in the wings and he is ultra-woke, with the thin veneer of the democrat hiding his true Marxism.
Sweden should beat Netherlands, I’ll be watching that one if it’s not after midnight…
We are well into the tennis season now so competition for the remote control can be quite fierce in our household. We have a sort of understanding, I watch live and my wife records the tennis so she can fast forward through the breaks in the game. I do seem to spend quite a bit of time quietly reading in the summer house. 😉
It’s an art to know when it’s the right time to pack things in . Very few people know when it’s best to walk away and as much as I agree that Starmer should go , it worries me more who the people lining up behind him might be.
There is no way that with this majority the Labour party will hold it’s hands up and say it’s a fair cop mate and give the country another vote so perhaps it’s best to stay with the devil you know. ( not the one in Malta ).
I might make the Netherlands v Sweden my first game apart from the England match against Croatia which I suppose that I am obliged to watch .
Really there are not too many interesting games to watch at this stage and I don’t want to dominate the family tele too early , there’s only so much the wife can take.
https://x.com/_Afcbanks/status/2066208168690995693?s=20
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Some folk are like that Kev, they just can’t see the problem is them. A bit like Starmer 😂
Yeah Rico, Wenger really should have moved on after 2015, but by then the offers from Real Madrid etc weren’t probably on the table anymore, knowing when to bow out, as Guardiola did this summer, isn’t something a guy like Wenger understood as he was the ultimate controlling personality. In the end he basically had to be forced into retirement by all the empty seats at the Emirates, I mean how can you not be able to sense that it was over when the club was announcing 60,000 capacities with only 45,000 in the stadium.
By then Kev, his guarantee given to the stadium loan investors was up, as was his Arsenal days. Great shame how he moved from what made us successful to what we became.
Morning Limey/Kev.
Mourinho and Crystal Tips are a match made in heaven. Ghastly, the pair of them.
2015/16 was really the season that did it for me regarding Arsène who I’d previously supported staunchly, his transfer business that summer of 2015 was frankly pathetic and bordering on irresponsible. Like you Rico that 4-0 defeat at Southampton was when I realised that Wenger was a busted flush, it was never the same after that and even now remembering that period just makes me angry.
Morning Rico and ya’ll.
Mustafi wasn’t Wenger’s worst signing over this period but he, along with Sylvestre, really put paid to the ‘Arsène Knows’ narrative that carried us through some dark times. The jam tomorrow theme kinda died with that overpriced calamity of a defender.
Wenger really had the Midas touch when it came to the FACup and that kinda extended his stay way beyond what it should have been.
Morning Rico/all
Those were some dark days and as you say as soon as we finished outside the top 4 Wengers days were numbered. Ironically now 5th is probably good enough,maybe even 6th.
I see the most annoying player in the league has joined the all time most annoying manager. I’d hoped we had seen the last of Mourinho,at least if we play Real Madrid now we will be favourites.
Morning Cicero, thank you.
I could never understand why when money was tight, so much was wasted on really poor signings. I think Wenger missed a trick with Xhaka, which he probably realised after Arteta joined.
Good morning Rico.
Thanks for an interesting post, I can’t help wondering how much our transfer team took in back handers from agents etc for signing some truly awful players.
Granit Xhaka turned out, eventually, to be worth his transfer fee despite his magnetic attraction for both yellow and red cards.
Thankfully the ownership shambles got sorted and things calmed down a bit.
Five stars again!