£15M bid for Song? Stylish Arsenal & Are the 'Wenger Out' brigade finally set to be silenced?

Morning Gooners,

Gossip first and then onto Allezkev’s match report from yesterday.

Reports are coming out of Spain suggesting that Barcelona have made an offer for Alex Song, €15 Million is the amount quoted by Mundo Deportivo.

Jamie Sanderson of Young Guns commented on Twitter yesterday that it’s a busy week ahead for Arsenal as player exits and arrivals are expected. 1 maybe 2 on their way in is the important bit.

Back to yesterday and Arsenal concluded their pre-season in emphatic style, beating FC Koln 4-0, and most importantly keeping a clean sheet.

It’s not often in top-level football that any team, even Barcelona, can go through an entire game without a few defensive scares and there was a couple for Arsenal in this game but, as I am not in the habit of being hyper-critical, I shall concentrate on the positives.

So if that offends you, well, you can do one!

Not withstanding the clinical finishing of Lukas Podolski, what struck me was the defensive shape and discipline shown by defenders who had finished 2011-12 by conceding a total of 49 EPL goals, occasionally in comical circumstances.

Are we seeing the beginnings of the influence of Steve Bould and Neil Banfield????

Arsene fielded all of his big money purchases in the starting XI, and the influence of Podolski, Giroud and Cazorla could be clearly seen during the first half.

Santi looked comfortable on the ball and retained possession against much bigger and more physical opponents, a useful quality to have with Stoke RFU on the horizon. He gave me the impression of a midfield orchestrator, someone who can hold onto the ball and relieve pressure on our defence if need be. Also someone who could evolve into the heartbeat of our team, the brains of our team, a player who can dictate the tempo, and drive us forward.

He looks a gem…

Olivier Giroud on another day could have had a hat-trick, but FC Koln’s teenage goalkeeper seemed to save all his best saves for our new French striker, preventing the big man from opening his Arsenal account. Giroud reminds me little of Alan Smith. A tall mobile intelligent centre-forward, with a sure touch who will provide Wenger with the attacking variety we lacked 12 months ago.

His aerial threat will give more of our opponents something different to think about from Arsenal corners, free-kicks and general play.

Another top class addition to what is fast, beginning to look, like a trophy winning squad.

Finally Lukas Podolski, here is a man on a mission.

He looks highly motivated and just the type of tough hard-nut forward who’ll love the challenge of giving opposing defenders sleepless nights. Direct, but also intelligent, as shown as he was involved in 3 of the 4 goals Arsenal scored.

A provider of clinical passes as well as a clinical taker of goals.

The next big fans favourite????

“Lukas Podolski, he scores when he wants”, as the song went, in Koln…

It was great to see Mertesaker fit again, he fitted in seamlessly alongside Vermaelen and flicked on in Bouldy style, for the first goal.

Andre Santos also had the look of a man who had spent most of the summer ‘On the Salads’…

All the 23 players on display looked fit and raring to goal, well 22 of them.

RVP had the look of a man who had had his nose pushed out of joint, despite wearing the captain’s armband. That’s what you get for allowing yourself to be manipulated by money-motivated agents Robin…!

The first goal followed a slick move, with Giroud’s low shot being pushed wide for a corner.

Well Arsenal are pretty rubbish at corners aren’t we…?

Not anymore we aren’t..!

Mertesacker met the corner at the near post, flicked it on, and Vermaelen came steaming in to score with a firm header.

Ah all our yesterdays I mused, Bouldy on the near post, a delicate flick on with Tony Adams meeting it on the far post to thump home…

More of this to come me thinks, maybe a couple at the Britannia Rugby Ground, now that is a very satisfying thought…

Koln had hardly recovered from the shock, when another Arsenal corner led to the 2nd goal. That’s right, another corner, I’m typing this and can hardly believe it myself…

Mertesacker’s flick on was collected and controlled by Podolski, who was facing away from goal. Quick as a flash, Podolski laid the ball onto the onrushing Oxlade-Chamberlain, who drove into the box.

AOC skipped past one challenge before another Koln defender clumsily shoved him over. The ref checked with his linesman, before pointing to the spot.

Cue the whistles and cat-call as the ex-Koln hero stepped up to take the penalty and Podolski dispatched the ball into the net as only a German can.

A low-key clench of his fist and then back to business. No classless Adebayor type celebrations by our man.

Koln then missed their best chance of the half, when one of their forwards fired wide. He should have scored, but he didn’t, so calm down you hyper-critics.

Two minutes later and a Walcott run and pull-back saw another goal bound shot from Giroud saved.

Mon Dieu Olivier!

A Cazorla corner was met by a looping goalbound header from Giroud, again saved. That was the 4th top class save from Koln’s teenage goalkeeper, at least 3 of them against Giroud.

With half-time approaching Podolski again was heavily involved. His thoughtful pass put Gibbs in for a dangerous overlap.
Podolski then sprinted into the box to meet Gibbs smart low pull-back, before crashing home his 2nd and Arsenal’s 3rd goal…

Half-time 0-3 to the visitors.

Podolski was the only survivor from the 1st half as Wenger made 10 changes.

Serge Gnabry made a useful cameo before both he and Podolski were pulled off to be replaced by Chamakh and RVP…

Just before Podolski was substituted, he laid on an incisive pass for Gervinho to burn-up the Koln right-back. Gerv dribbled into the box, beating his right-back again, before smashing home Arsenal’s 4th goal. I believe that the Koln right-back was last seen in Gervinho’s pocket at London Airport…

Arsenal could have racked up 3 or 4 more goals, with Gerv and Arshavin going close, but you’ve gotta be happy with 4-0 and a clean sheet?!

Even you hyper-critics…

Now lets bear in mind, this squad still has to come back ; Arteta, Ramsey, Frimpong, Wilshere, Sagna and Rosicky. I don’t know about you lot, but I think that’s a pretty strong squad being assembled by Arsene Wenger.

Are the financial shackles off???

Maybe one or two more quality signings will tell us more.

I get the feeling that we Gooners are in for a very good season.

‘Wenger Out’ – I don’t think we’ll be hearing that either…….

Written by Allezkev.

0 thoughts on “£15M bid for Song? Stylish Arsenal & Are the 'Wenger Out' brigade finally set to be silenced?

  1. rico says:

    Morning all….

    Great read AK, and especially loved

    ‘So if that offends you, well, you can do one’!

    I cannot believe that some fans elsewhere are suggesting that Giroud is rubbish already, I wonder if those same fans actually watched the game.

    I thought he was unlucky not to have walked off with the match ball but he will after a few games this season I’m sure…

    Three cracking signings made by our manager so far this transfer window, one or two more and the rest best watch out….

    2012/13 could finally be the season we get Arsenal back….

  2. TT says:

    Morning

    All in all not a bad game. Lets remember though that this was a second tier German team but you can only beat what is in front of you and we did that in stile.

    I am very existed regarding Giraud and Podolsky up front with Cazrola pulling the strings behind them and Walcott marauding down the wing.

    Another good aspect to the game was a clean sheet. Yes there where scares but every team has them and it’s a question how you handle them and we did that well.

    And there was more than a hint of GG and the old Arsenal in that first goal!

  3. allezkev says:

    Your joking Rico, that’s gotta be a wind-up?

    Giroud rubbish eh?

    Well that just about sums the football knowledge of those critics…

    God, words fail me with some of those idiots!

  4. Abu says:

    A good team without RVP, he is demotivated better leave than turning to score only when he wants. If not then he will play like yesterday for his remaining days, so unfortunate to RVP and supporters. Arm band should be for Verminatotor assisted by Arteta.

    Mombasa, Kenya.

  5. Ryan L says:

    Ignoring the fact that Cazorla is quite small in stature, I was really pleased to see that as a unit we suddenly look like we have a lot of physical and athletic presence, which really bodes well.

    Nice write up Kev

  6. Scott from Oz says:

    Post of the year,AK,but Podolski gave you plenty to write about lol.
    Nah,very,very good and a great final game before the league starts.
    How good is it to hear that the new guys all slotted in beautifully?
    Evening all.

  7. Scott from Oz says:

    Ryan,there’s no need to ignore the fact,we should embrace it.
    Plenty of the best footballers in the world today are of similar size.

  8. Kc says:

    Our Arsenal is back already……what the fuck is this meaningless international friendlies..wish we can get m’villa,van der wiel and ahin….though Arsene knows d best

  9. beranrd says:

    RVP should be loyal and look closely to his heart for all that arsenal has done for him during all the inquiries…this could be the arsenal year and trust me he wouldn’t want to miss the glory come may 2013

  10. Kc says:

    Is it only me…i don’t know why BFG brings more calm and presence to our defence,,,djourou and chamack sud be sold..ASAP…..i will still keep Asharvin

  11. Adam says:

    Morning Rico and all. I quite enjoyed the game yesterday and think that Cazorla will raise the game of those around him. He looks very confident in possession, has two good feet and is always looking to move the ball into dangerous areas. I thought Giroud did ok myself and Podolski has the look of a man who knows what he is doing to me.

  12. Gunner-Mac says:

    For most of last season I was one of many that said Wenger should “Change or Go” Now with our 3 latest signings i’m starting to think that Arsene “HAS CHANGED AT LAST”, Thank god almighty he’s changed at last.

  13. Ryan L says:

    Scott, it was more a comment about the fact that as a unit we looked like a much greater physical presence which is great. The comment about Cazorla was that his actual physical stature almost contradicts that point, well as a fact anyway. But Cazorla is clearly a giant of a player.

  14. Scott from Oz says:

    Our defence will improve over the season.
    I’m with you Isco,Nii…..wouldn’t mind at all if we got him.
    KC,Merts is a class act who rarely makes a mistake.
    Yes,he lacks speed,but there are plenty of quick blokes out there that can’t play.

  15. TT says:

    I would not go that far Nii but one or two more signings with some of the dross leaving would be super. Thats assuming that RvP will stay

    A DM maybe and one more good defender. Add Sahin on loan and we are looking just as strong as MC IMHO.

  16. Ryan L says:

    Nii, anything you can tell us about this Isco guy? Before being linked with him, I have to admit I have never heard of him and certainly haven’t seen him play.

  17. allezkev says:

    G-Mac, as i wrote, maybe the financial shackles have been loosened?

    Gotta feeling that we could see one or two more quality arrivals before August 31st…

  18. Satan to Saint says:

    Hey Kev, nice write up.

    Btw 3rd goal of the game was highlight for me. Poldi sprays the pass out wide from our half and then rushes on to meet with other pass. Nice one-two, weren’t they. lol.

  19. Scott from Oz says:

    I wasn’t having a crack at you Ryan.
    I can’t wait to see him through the season….him and Arteta bring a class and calm to a side that’s been aching for it.

  20. Will says:

    Call me a hyper critic but I thought defensively we were a little slack and in the big games, the games where one goal is the difference, that kind of casual football costs you the three points and remember, this was against a second division side. Yes we were good going forward (though I would still like to more speed in our passing) and the three new signings look class but there is still a lot of work to be done.

  21. allezkev says:

    Thank you Satan, i do it with you guys in mind… 🙂

    All the goals had elements that excited me.
    Incisive pace on the flanks.
    Intelligent interchange during the build-up and of course the corners.
    I felt like cheering when i saw the first goal.

  22. Kc says:

    Ak,Scott
    all i am saying is that i wish he can be a starter….not just about defence…but his presence on setpieces and corner kick will contribute many goals…d ist goal yesterday

  23. allezkev says:

    I don’t think your being hyper-critical Will.

    Gotta take into consideration the opposition and the type of game it was.
    Another week of preparations to sharpen up the team.
    the test, to my mind, will be the game at Stoke.
    Then we’ll know if the team has what it takes…
    Mind you Sunderland will probably be an exercise in bus parking.

  24. Kc says:

    Giroud is an underated player who will tear the epl apart…there is a player there in Gervinho…final decision is still a problem…hope he sort it out sooner than later
    surprisingly…walcot look so impressive

  25. allezkev says:

    Kc, we could see a fair bit of rotation next season.
    We have a strong squad, so in my mind there’s no reason why Arsenal cannot attack all four competitions.

  26. Will says:

    I am looking forward to having Arteta back as he really does calm the midfield and protect the defence. We do seem to have a fantastic squad and I have seen the rumour of a Bednter/ Mexes swap which would do me.

    I think better strikers could have had two or three goals against us.

  27. EastSidePaul says:

    Is it just me, or is spurs desperation to become Arsenal, more and more evident each year? Their scouting system is a wonder, see who Arsenal are interested in, then show interest themselves!

  28. Lee says:

    Lukas Podolski was “proud” to don Arsenal’s colours for the first time against former side Cologne on Sunday – and says he has felt at home at the Club since day one.

    Podolski scored twice as the Gunners rounded off pre-season with a comfortable 4-0 victory at the RheinEnergieStadion.

    The Germany international concedes scoring against his boyhood club was difficult but hopes his promising debut is just the beginning of a memorable career for Arsenal.

    “I have felt like a part of Arsenal from the first day and I am very proud to play here and wear the shirt,” Podolski told Arsenal Player.

    “I enjoyed it a lot. Before the game a lot of the players were surprised about the city and about the stadium. It was a great match and in my first game I scored two goals, so it was very good. It was a good test for us and I hope we can win against Sunderland next week.

    “It was not so easy [to score against Cologne]. I played a lot of games for a lot of years in Cologne. They were my club when I was a young boy, so it is not easy to score two goals against your team.

    “You see after the game that [the fans] still love me! I was very surprised about the Arsenal fans because there were a lot in the stadium. I heard them cry my name and I was very surprised!

    “We have been having two sessions a day, now it is back to London, a day off and then we can start to concentrate on the game against Sunderland.”

  29. southyorkshiregunner says:

    Massive financial problems at Ajax. They drew 2-2 with AZ Alkmaar the other day

    This is the right back the Mirror are linking us with

  30. Scott from Oz says:

    TT,quality in our squad means we can rotate them.
    Will,I don’t think anyone is suggesting yesterday’s performance would win us the league,but it was only a trial match.
    We want to see a steady rate of improvement defensively,and the more our news guys integrate,the better of we will be.

  31. Will says:

    I understand that Scott but practice makes perfect and it is games like these where we have to perfect our defensive play.

  32. southyorkshiregunner says:

    TT. You need at least 3 quality centre backs all the time

    1, Bould – O’Leary – Adams
    2. Bould – Keown – Adams
    3. Campbell – Keown – Adams

    1. When O’Leary and Adams played they were initially seldom injured but we had to rely on useless players like Gus Cesar stepping in. One of the reasons we bought Steve bould.
    2. Look at when Bould left and Adams and Keown were injured. 1-6 v Man Utd. Stepanovs et Grimandi centre pairing?
    3. Look at when Adams retired and Campbell or Keown were injured – Cygan was drafted in?

    Belt and braces.

  33. TT says:

    I agree Scott that it’s good to rotate but the defense is the last unit I would be changing on a regular basis. The more they play togather the better understanding will develop.

    It’s good though to be able to debate which one of 3 excellent CD should start compared to couple of years ago when we where hoping and praying that Squillacy or JD would be the next best things.

    Until Sagna is ready to start games I would actually play all 3 and Kozzer as a RB.

  34. Terry says:

    People who want Nuri Shain and M’villa to sign first tell me what do we do of all these midfileders:
    Arteta, wilshare, coquellen, song, frimpong, rosicky, diaby, ramsay, lansbury and wenger thinks AOC and Carzola can play there as well that makes it 11 mids we can only have 25 members in our squad.
    unless we dont sell song and send frimpong, lansbury on loan no ways would we be signing Shain or M’villa.

  35. Scott from Oz says:

    TT,send TV5 forward as a DM,and you can play BGF and Kozzer!
    Will,time with Bould is all that’s needed.
    Also,we always looked better defensively last season when Arteta played,so there’s that to come in.

  36. Scott from Oz says:

    Apparently it was the German fans booing RVP,as Arsenal fans were heard to chant “he scores when he wants to”, so ignore the media crap,as I ALWAYS do.

  37. southyorkshiregunner says:

    I agree in the concept of total football TT, although playing out of position is never the best way forward.
    Djourou is an adequate central defender – by adequate, I mean he should be playing for a team outside the top 8 and not us, but at right back he was less than adequate, he was a liability. Wenger did the same with Senderos at right back and both Gallas and Vermaelen at left back.
    It is ok in an emergency situation – ie you have an injury and have used your subs etc.. But never try and make an “adaption” like that for a prolonged period of time.. a 10-20 minute stop gap is ok …
    We are crying out for a defensive midfielder – but I wouldn’t put Mertesacker there as much as I wouldn’t stick him on the wing … Horse for courses. You have to have a Plan A and plan B. If they run out you adapt. At the moment we have two elevens, that is how it should be.
    Know your first 11 and use minimal rotation.

  38. Canadian Gooner says:

    Allezkev — Great article mate. I’m going to be a little off-topic this morning; no reflection of your stellar wordsmithing,

    First, CONGRATULATIONS to Britain and in particular London; you’ve done yourselves proud with the 2012 Summer Olympics. From the extravaganza of the opening ceremonies with it’s touch of British eccentricity and whimsy, the great venues, smooth operations, to the the trip down memory lane of 5 decades of British music in the closing ceremonies — they were spectacular.

    Now for a touch of personal eccentricity and whimsy. I have dissected the enrtails of the 2012 Summer Olympics and the omens augur well for Arsenal FC this coming season;

    1.) As already mentioned London, Arsenal FC’s home town, has done itself proud hosting the Olympics
    2.) The Olympics have shown that people regardless of race, colour, or creed can come together for a common purpose and succeed; much like the United Nations of Arsenal’s players.
    3.) The inclusion of Edson Arantes do Nascimento (aka Pelé) one of the, if not the, world’s greatest footballers in the delegation of Brazilian entertainers in the closing ceremonies.
    4.) The Who being the final act of the evening. When Roger Daltrey, a great fellow Gooner, started belting out the lyrics of ‘Baba O’Riley’ (aka Teenage Wasteland), I’m not ashamed to say, I shead a few tears.
    5.) On a more personal note, my older son and his wife had twins at the end of March; my first grandchildren. Thanks to his best friend, who lives and works in the Highbury area, they have plenty of Arsenal branded and crested baby wear. Another generation of Gooners in trainining.

    Delusions of granduer or just plain delusions you say. Maybe, lets wait until the end of the season before passing judgement.

    UP THE GUNNERS — Victory Through Harmony!

  39. jer says:

    I am as eager for Diaby l to have atleast 20 league games injury free, he can be a monster to deal with….and then playing alongside Cazorla….Oh and Wilshere too is yet to come back, this team on their day will hammer someone…

  40. TT says:

    No Scott I would actually buy a proper MD if needed than convert an excellent CD to DM where he will never be as good as he would be in CD.

    “It is ok in an emergency situation – ie you have an injury and have used your subs etc.. But never try and make an “adaption” like that for a prolonged period of time.. a 10-20 minute stop gap is ok …”

    And syg thats why I would not put TV in the DM role. Get the player for the position.

  41. Scott from Oz says:

    TT,that’s only an opinion.
    Mine is that he’d be a star as a DM,but that would take time,so I agree it’s best to buy one now.

  42. Scott from Oz says:

    On face value,the two Mancs will be watching over their shoulders at just two sides…us,and Chelsea.
    Now I’m basing this purely on players roughy into the respective clubs.
    Actually,I wonder if we will be looking over shoulder at Utd,because unless they get RVP,they’ll be quite average this season……

  43. Will says:

    I am going to try and get through this season without mentioning the money Man City and Chelsea spend that they don’t make.

  44. southyorkshiregunner says:

    … Wenger is not stupid; he is a very erudite man. One of the world’s top 5 managers …
    Wenger’s DOWNFALLl is his man management – he has his favourites.
    Henry was a toss captain, but Wenger loved him
    Fabregas should never have played v’s Barcelona. He helped lose us the tie.
    He’s never seen to lose his temper thus giving over a nice mannerism when he should be more ruthless, and how Diaby has been kept on I’ll never know.
    There are at least twenty other examples.

    Currently, we are looking good.
    Terry mentioned Sahin and M’Villa and where they would play?

    Get shut of Song and it frees a place up. Wilshire and Frimpong are out injured, but the latter will go on loan. Rosisky will get injured. Diaby will definitely get injured – probably a 6 month stint on the sidelines after the Liverpool game, so we can’t replace him …

  45. southyorkshiregunner says:

    Will, back then we played a 4-4-2 with a very mediocre midfield. Keown was drated there prior to the final of the ECW final where Seaman gifted the opposition a goal and we lost
    Our game plan back then was simple. We put ten men behind the ball and hoped that Ian Wright would knock one in.
    A classless central midfield pairing of Steve Morrow and David Hillier? Nulification was the name of OUR game back then.

    Vermaelen is a central defender.

  46. TT says:

    Will Keown was used as a man marker and excelled at it. he did not play as a DM as such but marked players out of the game. He was known as the rash when he did that because he would be like a rash all over the target 🙂

    Kozzer actually did a similar thing against Barcelona at the Emirates and subdued the little maestro brilliantly.

    And Scott yes its only an opinion….but few years ago we did not even have the luxery of debating like this as we did not have the squad we have to day 🙂

  47. emma says:

    daniel taylor ‏@DTguardian

    Waiting for England training session: Oxlade-Chamberlain just pulled out with ankle injury

    I hope is not serious.

  48. Potter says:

    Maybe the collapse of the season ticket waiting list has made them rethink their spending policy. As for the new guys Cazorla looks like the missing link and both Giroud and Podolski are going to cause defences problems. Walcott looked good actually having an English type forward to float centres at. Happy days possibly.

  49. allezkev says:

    As i see it, Wenger could have two teams
    A technical team for the Swansea’s etc.
    And a more physical side for the Stoke RFU’s and Sunderland’s etc.
    When facing ManCity,Spuds,Chelski,ManUre, a combination of the two.
    Variety of line-up, tweaking the teams tatics to counter the opposition.
    No more dogma in team selection and style.
    You know “We play our game”…
    So i don’t see a first XI as such, but a squad that can be mixed & matched as the needs be…

    But TT, i do agree up to a point, in not messing the defence around too much.
    Although in Mertesaker, Koscielny and Vermaelen, we have 3 highly technical and intelligent defenders, who should be equally comfortable with whomever is partnering them.
    Even Djourou can do a job, in the odd game, i emphasise ‘odd’…..

  50. Will says:

    Still doesn’t detract from the fact Keown was a very good DM. i am up for re-training JD as a DM. Pace, power, good passer and adds stature to the centre of the park, especially against the rougher sides in the prem.

  51. emma says:

    Second confirmation on the OX:

    John Cross ‏@johncrossmirror

    Oxlade-Chamberlain is out of England squad with ankle injury. Lescott called up for trip

    Joleon Lescott ‏@JoleonLescott

    Was happy to be woken up by my phone this morning, phone call to say I’ve been called up to the England squad for Wednesday’s game.

  52. TT says:

    Very interesting SYG….wonder will this influence the Sahin loan? Would they loan him out now when they know they will have to replace Alonso?

  53. southyorkshiregunner says:

    Djourou should be playing at a different club.
    He has never been Arsenal material and he never will be. Wenger likes him because he’s a nice lad.
    Just being adequate and NICE doesn’t cut it at the top end of sport.

  54. Will says:

    I think an exciting but dangerous midfield would be, Arteta, Cazorla and Wilshere. with Podolski and The Ox on the wings.

  55. allezkev says:

    Emma, i recall the physio checking Ox’s ankle out yesterday.
    AOC dropping out is probably a precaution.

  56. emma says:

    ‘We’re in a stronger position this summer’

    Arsène Wenger is confident his side will challenge for the title this season – and says they are well ahead of last summer’s preparations.

    Wenger has already signed established internationals Lukas Podolski, Olivier Giroud and Santi Cazorla, and watched his side finish their pre-season schedule with a 4-0 win over FC Cologne on Sunday.

    Arsenal recovered after a difficult start to finish third last season and Wenger believes they have the same desire to fight for honours this time around.

    “We are in a much stronger position now because last summer we lost Nasri and Fabregas, and on top of that we lost Diaby and Wilshere [to injury],” he told Arsenal Player. “So we lost four players at the start of last season and that is not the case this time.

    “We want to [compete for honours] and we have a desire to. We are up for it and what we want is to come out of the season and know we have given our best. I feel we did that last year, finishing third with the start we had.

    “The first target is to do as well as we can in every single game and see where we stand at the end of the season. But of course we want to fight for the championship.”

  57. TT says:

    And will you missed my point Keown was never played as a regular DM as I recall but as a man marker. He did not stay in front of the defense as such but followed his target/victim all over the pitch, into the dressing room, to the toilet……

  58. emma says:

    TT- That’s why madrid wants to get Modric and there re reports it is at an advance stage.[marca]. That wont affect the loaning of Sahin. Sahin has being give the green light to go out on loan. So it all depends on him now
    allez- Thanks for the info

  59. allezkev says:

    TT, maybe the delay in Sahin joining, is Real’s insistance of not having a clause to make the transfer a permanant one, with the departure of Alonso in mind?

  60. GoonerB says:

    Great to see everyone so positive today and justifiably so. On a slightly cautious note is it only me that has a slight worry about the Song rumours. I know he can divide opinion with some thinking him great and some who think he is not nearly good enough and is easily replaced. I am more in the middle and recognise some of his deficiencies but I also don’t think he is that easily replaced.

    IMO It is not as simple as bringing in a like for like and thinking that is job done, as I also feel it is vitally important to have an established dressing room with players that know and understand each other both on and off the pitch. Too many changes and it can take a while for players to gel and that can cost you points. We want to get off to a flier this season and a disjointed start to the season because players are still learning about each other could leave us too much to do later on. We don’t need to sell Song so I would rather keep him and look at it in a future transfer window if he still wants to go.

  61. allezkev says:

    Arsenal‏@ArsenalTNS

    Wenger: “New signings? We are still looking. We still have an eye on the market. If a good opportunity comes up, we’ll take it.”

  62. southyorkshiregunner says:

    No idea TT.
    I’d love to know what they, Madrid are thinking?
    Madrid have always had the thing where the buy the top Germans in their team – it dates back from Netzer and Breitner in the 70’s (Barca had the best Dutch players).
    Maybe Sahin just doesn’t fit into their system, the same as Alan Ball never fitted into ours nor Rodney Marsh into Man City’s. All top footballers.
    Top footballers should adapt, but in certain instances they change the dynamics of the side so that the machine slows down or misfires. Sahin is a deep lying midfielder who gets possession and passes long. Maybe a bypasses Ronaldo too much for Mourinho’s liking.

  63. Scott from Oz says:

    I must ask why Real would let Cazorla slip by and chase Modric.
    It’s not because he’s a spud.
    It’s not because he’s got a head like a dropped pie.
    It’s not because he’s tiny.
    It’s because I just don’t think he’s as good as plenty make out.
    What is it I’m missing with Modric?
    He’s a very good player,and I’m not suggesting otherwise,but there are plenty of better guys out there.

  64. Scott from Oz says:

    SYG,you’ve nailed it.
    There’s been plenty of top players who haven’t performed at a new club,and there are various factors influencing this lack of performance.

  65. allezkev says:

    Niko ‏@greeklad

    Ivanovic no ban as its not a 1st team game? Ridiculous. If it was an #AFC player it would be 5 game ban for getting a red card in a friendly

    Is this true, and when did the Charity Shield cease being a senior (1st team) game???

  66. southyorkshiregunner says:

    GoonerB – “it is vitally important to have an established dressing room with players that know and understand each other both on and off the pitch..”.

    This can also breed lethargy. Eboue was great fun in the dressing room. Every player said it. But on the pitch he was a total drama queen, bordering on garbage.

    Gallas was an arrogant twat, as was Nasri. They hated each others guts. But they played to win, and it wasn’t those two who lost us points away v’s Birmingham 1-1 (not the 2-2 Glichy mistake) and a shot at the league title – it was Mr. Humility – Mr. Nice guy Almunia who everyone got on with…

    Professional footballers at the top end of their sport should think ONE thing. Winning is paramount. A means to an end. To do it with beautiful football and everyone getting on with each other is a plus point. But the win is or should be the FIRST thing on the agenda.
    The three lads that have come in are winners.

  67. allezkev says:

    gunnerstuff‏@gunnerstuff

    Real Madrid want to negotiate a loan or permanent transfer with buy-back clause for Şahin. Arsenal offer interests him most. [marca]

  68. southyorkshiregunner says:

    Scott …. An example was Lee Chapman, to all the young bloggers he is Lesley Ash’ husband and was a centre-forward and top scorer we signed from Stoke for £500K in 1982. He never integrated and was sold on and ended up with both Sheff Wed and Leeds.
    He said that Arsenal’s style at the time didn’t suit him and he became a massive success at his other clubs.
    He did however state that George Graham’s style of football was nothing like Terry Neills and would have suited him down to the ground.

  69. Scott from Oz says:

    SYG,you can still win the right way though,and that itself is more important than simply winning,in my eyes,anyway.

  70. Scott from Oz says:

    I reckon the best current examples are Torres at Chelski and Carroll at Liverpool……what were the buying clubs thinking??

  71. Micko says:

    Morning all,
    Keown was a real animal, always putting in reducers, not many opponents came back for more, maybe only Shearer gave as good as he got.
    Will, Djourou is in his mid 20’s now and struggled when asked to play at right back, don’t think it would work out in the centre of the park, same goes for TV5, probably our best CB, put him in as a DM and he wouldn’t be half as effective imo, just need to go and splash the cash on some-one who knows that postion inside out, do that and we’ve got every chance.

  72. southyorkshiregunner says:

    Come on Scott. Winning is everything.

    You don’t send your dog out to come third and comment on how nice a race she competed.

    I’d take 38 1-0’s all the way to the PL title as I’d take all 1-0’s to win the FA Cup and Champions League and League Cup.

  73. Scott from Oz says:

    Wath/Rico,I said a week or so back……we could sign Messi and Ronaldo and some meatheads would still whinge.

  74. Scott from Oz says:

    When I said winning the right way,I wasn’t just asking out playing pretty.
    I mean little things…..the club running efficiently.
    Wenger NOT tapping players up.
    Our own players not constantly talking of supposed targets.
    These type of things.

  75. southyorkshiregunner says:

    Talking of drugs Scott – Kolo toure was whining the other day and loks to be on his way …. Pity no-one will pay him the daft wage Man City are ….. Turkey beckons

  76. W.A.T.H says:

    Lee…………. Good man 😀 I knew you would !!

    Scott, Why would we want either of those two lazy bastards they can’t defend to save their lives….! 😉

  77. vernat1066 says:

    Morning, GoonerB good point, now is not the time to be asking players to adapt and integrate, and whilst it is not necessary to have a harmonious dressing room, Roy Keane at Utd being an example that only works in certain situations and under Arsene we need to be together.

    JD is a good player but only playing in his right position and with a run of games he can look clumsy and off the pace until this, but as a fourth choice CB he is more than adequate in fact at times when he has had a regular run of games next to an organising CB he has been our best CB, but i think he needs to be played beside the BFG or Kos as they can organise and talk unllke TV

  78. TT says:

    Don’t recall TA and the rest ever talking about what they wanted to win….they would just go out there and put their ugly mugs on the line and come away victorious or on top of their shields..

  79. Terry says:

    I would like us getting shain on loan and sending frimpong and lansbury on loan also selling song and replacing him with M’villa would be good for the team. But getting mexes in exchange for Nikki b no ways on earth mexes is garbage… one of the most overrated players and also he is on very high wages(another squillachi situation) nor should we get kaka another injury prone player with very high wages to his name.
    Nikki b should easily fetch us 8m his performances in the euro were very good, apart from his ego he is a very good player.

  80. southyorkshiregunner says:

    Here’s one for you TT. It tends to be one people forget. We played a good game against what was a good side at the time.

    A disallowed goal by Ian Wright. A great, great player, but a shit, shit pundit.
    I don’t think he ever forgave us for not signing his son

  81. ktr7 says:

    Good read AK.i must say Gerv is without a doubt the best dribbler at the club.he just ghosts past players.he would be an absolute beast if he didn’t make the wrong final decision after all the good work.

  82. Canadian Gooner says:

    Scott from Oz — I have to agree with you. Its the accumulation of these “little things”, our standards, our traditions, etc. that set us apart from the likes of Stoke. We all have to draw the line somewhere.

    When ‘winning is everything’ becomes ‘winning is the only thing’ we lose something other than the game. However, winning games should not be subordinaye to playing attractive football. True champions are those who can grind out a win when they are playing badly, but still play within the spirit and rules of the game.

    SYG — If you truly believe “Winning is everything.”, I think you would be supporting whatever team was the current favourite. Something about Arsenal as a club.team must appeal to you. Yet, I do think what we have lacked this last few years is a winning mentality, not settling for anything but your full and best effort, whatever that may be on any given day.

  83. southyorkshiregunner says:

    CanadianG.

    Everyone, and I mean everyone is whining about our “x” amount of trophy-less seasons. Everyone. And I mean everyone.
    But there is no doubt we play great passing football but have won nothing. Nothing. Jack shit.

    Would you have preferred the latter to the former or the former to the latter? We are not here to make up the numbers. Winning is what we compete for.

    A win ugly = 3pts
    To win with great football = 3pts
    To take part and play great and lose = 0pts
    To lose and play shit = 0pts

    We play for 3pts first and foremost.
    Sport is all about winning. I want Arsenal to win first and foremost. everything else is a plus.

    Watch this bit of history and LEARN. In the first half we played the game and were getting hammered. The second half we absolutely blathered them. Why? Because we won ugly!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4CXY6TVBMc

  84. Canadian Gooner says:

    SYG — I know what you saying, but are you g;oing to go as far as Roy Keane; deliberately trying to seriously injure opposing players to win a game? Where do you draw the line?

  85. Scott from Oz says:

    SYG,I’m being totally honest here,and anyone who knows me will back me.
    Sport to me is not all about winning and losing.
    Sport is entertainment,a way to switch off from all the bullshit in the world,any problems I may have at work,at home…in general life…and for 90 odd minutes,I’m a Gooner,nothing more,nothing less.
    If it was all out winning,I guarantee you I wouldn’t be waking up at 3 am on a Monday morning to watch our guys play,I’d just wake up at 6 and check the results.
    My dogs…well,I’ve trained the odd chaser for around twenty years,and back when I started,I can assure you that at least half the trainers running around we’re hitting their dogs along.
    Me,naive,idealistic…call it what you will….I never,ever touched a dog to get a win,or to stop one.
    It made each and every win that much more enjoyable.
    With all due respect,as I do respect you’re opinion,but please don’t ever presume to guess what other Gooners motives or reasons for loving the club are.
    7 years…..crikeys,I can wait another 20 years and I’ll still love the club.

  86. Micko says:

    C’mon CG, Patrick Vieira gobbing in an opponents face, you can’t sink much lower than that, they’re all as bad as each other.

  87. southyorkshiregunner says:

    Would I do a Pires or Eboue and dive to win a game? Would I try and fix a match? Would I set the fire alarm off in the oppositions hotel or poison their goalkeeper to win?
    The permeations, CanadianG are endless; but that is cheating.
    I’m saying the game is about winning. Everything else is secondary.

    Peter Storey was a very aggressive player – more so than Keane. The silky Paul Davis of Arsenal even broke Glenn Cockerill’s jaw, and with a punch.

    For me, it’s all about Arsenal winning.

  88. Canadian Gooner says:

    Scott from Oz — You are more of an idealist than I am. That is not a crticism by the way, just a statement. You are and should be entitled to have and set your own ideals/standards just like your opinions as long as you don’t impinge on the rights of others.

    In your own vernacular – Good on you Mate.

  89. Scott from Oz says:

    CG,I don’t pretend my way is the only or right way,it’s just my way.
    When I first started posting on Arsenal forums,90% of comments were negative,and anti Wenger.
    I tried,and on a few different forums,of discussing it,but was called every name under the sun,simply because I defended the man.
    I was even banned by one,after copping it left,right and centre from everyone!!
    Basically,I was canned for having an opinion.
    It’s my humble opinion that anyone representing Arsenal must be supported if he/she is giving 100%.
    Look at any player I’ve made negative comments about,and it’s invariably due to their lack of effort.
    Yep,I’m and idealist,but I can’t help it 🙂
    Ps….the reason I post on HH is that it IS the most tolerant and fair minded Group of Gooners around.
    It truly is ok to disagree,and I’ve done plenty of that lol.

  90. Canadian Gooner says:

    SYG — We have reached an impasse. We are entitled to our own opinions.

    I have my daughter coming for a few days and lots of work to do. So, I bid my fellow Gooners farewell. As Eric Idle sang last night – Always Look on the Bright Side of Life.

  91. Scott from Oz says:

    On Utd’s official website,it’s been announced that Fergie is preparing to lodge a 20 million bid for RVP.

  92. southyorkshiregunner says:

    I’m not knocking it CanadianG. Good morals are a great thing. It’s a pity they’re not compulsory.

  93. emma says:

    Scott- Just had a look at their website. Just like the arsenal media watch reporting about players link to arsenal thru various media. Nothing much to it other than paper rumours

  94. Scott from Oz says:

    Wath,it’s definitely there.
    I read it elsewhere,and checked their site to confirm it,and their it was.

  95. ktr7 says:

    Scott is a football purist and thats ok.to a degree i get him.he has to wake up at 3 to watch Arsenal play.if we were playing like Stoke I Would not have the motivation to wake up so early.its alright.there is a reason why Roman despite the chavs winning the CL has bought lots of smaller flair players;he wants them to play champagne football since to him winning is not enough.he would give anything to see his team play like ours.we are priviledged to have a manager that can make the team play so sublimely like yesterday in the 1st half.

  96. Scott from Oz says:

    Emma,it’s just under “top stories”,but ll take your word thats its just a link.
    Either way,it doesn’t worry me if he goes or stays,as long as we spend the cash……

  97. W.A.T.H says:

    I don’t care if he stays or goes Scott long as we rip the mancs off for as much as possible…. No selling him on the cheap and if they don’t pay up then piss off.

    Song to Barca has definitely got a lot of smoke to it…. Fingers crossed IMO….. then to get in a proper defensive midfielder and let the flair players do what they good at.

  98. Bob John says:

    Concerned about the Mexes links again. Poser who worries more about adjusting his hair band than defending. Would get eaten alive in the EPL!

  99. Scott from Oz says:

    25 million for RVP,15 million for Song.
    Get M’Villa,Schwarzer and,and,and…..not sure who else.
    25 million wll certainly buy a nice player though 🙂

  100. GoonerB says:

    SYG (@ 11.10, sorry been away for a while) I agree with you entirely about having winners out there. and I certainly don’t want lethargy amongst the players. I am not sure I quite put over my thinking exactly as I wanted to.

    For me getting in players that are upgrades on what we have is only good and I think we all agree on this as fans, but my reservation would be in how many changes we carry out in one go. I think too many changes in the past have hurt us as much as anything particularly in losing experienced players with our over 30’s policy. I think it would be wrong to sell Song in this window, and similarly RVP for £15m. With the new additions plus these 2 imo we can win the title this year. I like the idea of Sahin on loan with an option to buy, and we may find that as the season goes on that he looks a better option than Song. At the end of the season, if we find that the combination of Sahin, Le Coq and Frimpong is the best for us, we can then trigger Sahin’s option to buy and at this point we can look to do business on Song.

    Similarly we will know more by the end of next season what we would need to add to our forward line if RVP departs. We have an exciting new forward line but also it is still 3 new players that, despite their obvious qualities, are still getting to know how their team-mates think. If RVP goes now and we replace him it will be 4 and I worry that is too much of a wholesale change which would see us take time to settle in, and we will therefore be developing a team to challenge for the following season rather than this one.

    If we add Sahin to Podolski, Giroud and Cazorla then with one season under their belt they will be ingrained into the squad and settled. At this point the presence of Song and RVP to help others settle is not so important. Then players like Cazorla, Podolski and Arteta can then help any new additions next year to settle in from next year.

  101. Scott from Oz says:

    I hope Wenger sets his price and sticks to his guns on both players.
    He has said it….we don’t need to sell.

  102. W.A.T.H says:

    Scott, I have a feeling Wenger not interested in a keeper and I think thats a HUGE mistake…!
    M’Vila and Sahin would be proper..!

  103. ktr7 says:

    Another thing about Cazorla.since he is ambidextrous he can open up the angle for a pass in a split second with either foot making it very difficult to read where he is going to play the ball.he is going to be quite a player for us.

  104. Scott from Oz says:

    KT,all this talk of Cazorla being ambidextrous is being overdone.
    Surely his greatest asset is the ability to kick with both feet!!
    Wath,give Fabianski a confidence pill and each I’m fly.
    I know,won’t happen!

  105. W.A.T.H says:

    Jamie Sanderson ‏@YoungGunsBlog
    Alex Song tells Sky of interest from other clubs, and says ‘Barça are best team in the world’, but adds ‘I’m happy at Arsenal.’

    Sounds like a come and get me comment….!!

  106. W.A.T.H says:

    AK can drive, we can make sure Song don’t get lost on the way…! Plus a few tasties on the way of course

  107. allezkev says:

    Maybe ManUre are putting that RVP news (non-news), on their website to try and placate their fans and show that they’re trying to strengthen?

  108. goonster says:

    wow carzola really blew me away there……thanks for the video link emma. gosh i just cant wait for sunderland. sahin ll be unveiled before our match against the mackems………so my source said and hey you all know my source is never wrong. he’s always spot on!

  109. allezkev says:

    I knew you was Wath… 🙂

    Fergie needs him Rico, Giggs & Scholes can’t carry them over another campaign…

  110. southyorkshiregunner says:

    No probs GoonerB. I keep saying, opinions are fantastic things. I really mean that.

    With both Scott and CanadianG – there’s nothing “wrong” with what either of them have said re: moral’s, sportsmanship etc; but living in England and following a club, and being amongst other people that follow other rival clubs gives YOU as a supporter a PASSION that someone thousands of miles away in non-footballing countries doesn’t get… To win against a rival is great … to lose is just embarrassing … very emotional

    …The last thing you want to see after Diaby has headed an aimless cross into his own net is thirty-odd Man Utd fans jumping about celebrating in the pub giving it “we are the best team in the land”….

    …Especially after I was the lone voice in the place after Arshavin had hit a beauty into the back of the net, jumping up and down and telling them that they what a set of glory-boy wankers they all were…

    They weren’t bothered how the ball went in the net ….

    As a point of note: Three or four drinks and a table were turned over when Van Persie hit the equaliser in the 90th minute. Unfortunately it got disallowed ….

  111. goonster says:

    morning guys, i woke up with a huge smile on me face. am really chuffed guys. fuck song, he’s shit! dont sell van prick to manure!!!! no you ninnys sell to juve! i dont want that punk lining up against us. he know us too much.

  112. W.A.T.H says:

    As if Grandad didn’t earn enough driving the Spice Girls onto the stage last night… now he wants Song fare as well…..

  113. rico says:

    They might need him Kev, but if they get him, the fans won’t be so happy 😉

    Kolo Toure has edged closer to the Manchester City exit door after reportedly throwing his Community Shield medal into the Villa Park crowd

  114. goonster says:

    kev, am creaming me pants at the prospect of him lining up with jack, arteta and carzola. man, i need new undies!!

  115. rico says:

    Inter to use Julio Cesar in move for Lennon after being scared off by Walcott fee….

    Inter Milan have turned their attention to Tottenham’s Aaron Lennon after being put off by an asking price of £20million for Theo Walcott.

  116. ktr7 says:

    I remember in 2006 when i first saw Poldi i thought he was on his way to greatness.when he moved to Bayern he was quite young and had Klose/Toni ahead of him.he flopped as a result.he has never fully tapped his potential but now under AW he will since he is more mature now.when fit and fully adjusted he’ll always play.he is not a tiki taka merchant;he is the opposite.Strong,quick,clinical and arrogant.just like Villa for Barca he is an additional goal threat with a bullet shot.we have lacked that threat for years.he’ll get more freedom here as showed yesterday;he’ll not hug the touchline like for Germany.Combine that with his attitude and we’ll soon see why he is loved in Germany.

  117. southyorkshiregunner says:

    Good God goonster …. That’s what I call passion….

    Re; Song on SkySports.
    If there’s a definite offer on the table from Barcelona, Song will leave.

  118. goonster says:

    how can i maam? when for the first time in years my team looks decent. this team reminds me of the 07/08 team. a little tweak and we ll really rip it. men, i cant feel my legs. its like jelly!!!!! COYFGS! YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOO.

  119. rico says:

    Hi goonster, yes all ok thanks, was on first thing and later in the day but was out for most of the day…

  120. Scott from Oz says:

    Lee,it was one of my best,too lol.
    I just had a look at Emma’s link,and bloody hell,Cazorla looks every inch the real thing.
    Very comfortable on the ball,and pretty strong over it,as well.

  121. goonster says:

    HEY, what’s with the capital letters shit!!!!!!!!! W.A.T.H you freak stop messing with me comments!

  122. goonster says:

    i heard the tits are after our man mvilla……..hahahahahahahaha like he ll wanna join a small club. sahin rejected them twice and there’s no way in hell mvilla ll join them. he’s holding out for us.

  123. W.A.T.H says:

    Stanley your so excited you can type properly…. I don’t need to mess with your comments you do that well enough yourself 🙂

  124. goonster says:

    dont know what that word means AK but if it means a TWAT FACED bastard then am all up for calling him that.

  125. southyorkshiregunner says:

    Rico …. Have you noticed how happy all your bloggers are???

    That bit of INTENT has worked a treat.

  126. Scott from Oz says:

    My wife pointed out that I’ve worn my various Asenal shirts under my work top for the last 4 or 5 days…didn’t even realise it!!
    Must be getting close now.

  127. W.A.T.H says:

    What didn’t you write Stan… your in such a state you have no idea what kind of shit your writing….?!?!?!?

  128. goonster says:

    hahahahahahahahaaha scott you nut. i gotta hand it to you man. you are a real gooner………just like will. speaking of which. where is will these days? i havent seen him in a year. hope he’s ok though.

  129. bondex says:

    hi guys….cant get over yesterday we played like champions (well at preseason level)…stan no one wants see…

  130. rico says:

    I have Syg, and the season hasn’t even started. Wait until we beat Fergies lot, we’ll be even happier 🙂

    That Ryo deal is confirmed, sorry if i already missed that news 😉

  131. Scott from Oz says:

    Just Googled “Dutch Porn”,and a picture of Stan popped up (pardon the pun) with an Arsenal magazine in one hand,and in the other….well,you get the picture……….

  132. southyorkshiregunner says:

    Has anyone noticed that Myles Palmer has not blogged on Arsenal prior to the Cazorla signing …… The Olympics yes, but not arsenal…

    We have acquired one of the world’s top midfielder’s and just walked past Cologne in pre-season, yet no mention of Arsenal.

  133. W.A.T.H says:

    Did he have his heels and suspenders on Scott….? Worrying that you’ve gone looking for Stan on internet porn sites…!

  134. southyorkshiregunner says:

    It’s a shame Emma, as I thought he is currently as good as Gervais. At least he’ll get game time…. Hopefully

  135. rico says:

    Great picture Kev…

    Looks like every paper has the Song story Syg… Like Wath says, too much smoke …..

  136. W.A.T.H says:

    Keep it between us bondex i’m not supposed to say anything about Stan and his afflictions…. The womens clothing fetish is one of them…! the creaming thing the other..!

  137. W.A.T.H says:

    SYG, don’t read a thing on what palmer says he’s one self opinionated twat who thinks he knows it all…! He ain’t even Arsenal !!

  138. emma says:

    Scott- he is good and i think he still needs a season long loan. Hopefully next season he will be matured enough to slot into the squad. Martinez is a good coach and will help him in his development

  139. bondex says:

    😀 😀 😀 …..everyone’s happy today see what a good display has done …..let the season begin.

  140. rico says:

    Not sure what to make of the rumour that Chamberlain is injured, AW finally keeping his players out of the meaningless friendlies I suspect…

  141. Scott from Oz says:

    Ryo’s gone to a good club with a great manager….couldn’t have asked for a better fit,imo.

  142. allezkev says:

    Same here Rico, except for Arsenal Youth & Young Guns.
    It’s all happening on here.

    i mean Adam and his erections should soon be dropping by…
    It never ends…

  143. allezkev says:

    Yeah Lee, football goes out the window, and it’s underpants, Agag, Creaming, Nailing, coconut trees, Emma, 🙄
    And not always in that order…

  144. goonster says:

    glory hole huh lee? hmmmmm seems somebody watches a lot of porn on here. look out rico…….lee is a perv!

  145. rico says:

    That’s pretty much my lot too AK, although I do read LG most days, posts are good but too frightened to read the comments in case I see that ‘G’ word 😉

    Lee, clogs 😉

  146. Scott from Oz says:

    Lol Bondex.
    A jovial mood is to be had by all atm.
    Imagine next week when we spank Sunderland!!

  147. W.A.T.H says:

    SYG, I don’t want Mexes he’s a poser…! overpaid one at that..! Get 8mil for Bendy and say thanx and goodbye

  148. Romford Pele (formerly HC) says:

    Yes very busy indeed WATH, the optimism is flowing through everyone’s veins!

    Question for everyone; Sahin or M’Vila? I think it’s going to be one of the two.

  149. Scott from Oz says:

    Pele,if there’s an option to buy,Sahin will do but if not,no deal.
    Grab the long term option,I reckon.

  150. goonster says:

    W.A.T.H why dont you get off my case. seems you ve got a crush on me or something! well sorry fella i like ladies!

  151. rico says:

    And Mexes injured too much these days…

    Don’t know about looking forward to Saturday, I really can’t wait for the 31st August….

  152. W.A.T.H says:

    I want a real man Stanley not a lightweight like you……….. Now gimme a kiss and be gone with ya xx

  153. Romford Pele (formerly HC) says:

    Thans guys. I was really impressed with Le Coq yesterday but I don’t want to go into a season where gets overplayed and we become reliant on him. That’s exactly what happened with Wilshere, and look where he is now.

    M’Vila would still be my priority. The only way we could get Sahin as well would be if we got rid of another CM. M’Vila/Sahin IN and Diaby/Song out would have me jizzing my pants.

  154. Micko says:

    Kev,rico, thanks for your help, little problem resolved and a clause put in that I can use the ticket when I’m over, sorted.

    Stan, if it makes you feel any better I never believed wath when he said you were hung like a field mouse.

  155. Romford Pele (formerly HC) says:

    Sorry guys, it’s nice to be having what feels like a competitive team for the first time in ages – can’t quite control my excitement 😉

  156. ktr7 says:

    Didn’t van purse strings say that a trophy at any other club for him wouldn’t feel right to him?…guess we are about to find out.

  157. Micko says:

    Romford, you can’t help feeling Podolski looks like he means business, a man on a mission, no frills, just wants to hit the back of the net.

  158. bondex says:

    I’m watching the match again …..we had a lot of incisive penetration,not just passing the ball around aimlessly…wish i could what stan does just in anticipation of the coming season.

  159. Romford Pele (formerly HC) says:

    Exactly KT, very hypocritical from RVP. Shame considering how much of a Gooner he was when he was younger. Money talks I guess…

    Micko, direct and explosive, that’s what I like to see. Also shows what happens when you buy ready-made experience players.

  160. allezkev says:

    Interesting to see the market values of these three;

    Nuri Sahin……………. £16.0 million.
    Yann M’Vila…………….£18.5 million.
    Alex Song………………£25.0 million.

  161. Romford Pele (formerly HC) says:

    For me Arteta is a starter if fit. Cazorla already looks like he may be our best player, and yes, i’m including RVP in that too. So i’d say one position left.

    Something like this:
    ——– DM/CM —– Arteta
    ————–Cazorla———–

  162. Lee says:

    I’m having for my dinner tonight a true gourmetical treat… Fish fingers, chips and beans! Eat your heart out Gordon! 😆

  163. Romford Pele (formerly HC) says:

    All Spurs ever do is wait to see who we’re after then buy them, same with City… Scumbags

  164. TT says:

    Hell rico I would not pay £25! If some one wants to pay silly money for him then ffs bite their hand off!

    As far as I have read the price for M’Vila has been a lot less than £18 million and if true that Barcelona want song sell him and get M’Vila which is a proper DM.

  165. W.A.T.H says:

    Song ain’t worth 25mil in a month of sundays….!

    Fishfinger sandwiches…. hmmm can remember you making them for me yrs ago Grandad it’s why I love em so much..!

  166. Adam says:

    I was going to add that it would need to be accompanied with a Cloudy Bay Sauvignon Blanc but realised that goes without saying.

  167. rico says:

    Get off that site Kev, it will cause distress…

    Lee, that sounds just mighty fine to me, bit of tartar sauce 😉

  168. Adam says:

    As long as you lightly drizzle it with first growth Tuscan Extra Virgin Olive Oil Lee. Rico taught me that one.

  169. Adam says:

    Lee. You pseud. 🙂
    I would go for a Clos Des Mouches myself but then, as Mrs Adam just popped her head round the door to say, I am a heathen.

  170. Lee says:

    It would of been a 2007 Domaine de la Romanee-Conti Montrachet, but unfortunately Mrs Lee used the last one to make spritzers…

  171. Will says:

    I am wondering if Cazorla and Arshavin can play in the same team if we need a goal. Imagine those two pulling the strings “in the hole” behind RvP and Podolksi.

  172. Lee says:

    No only soft drinks, but there is a shop where you can buy alcohol… are you planning a visit? You can book a table on their website and it does get busy after 7.00pm.

  173. Adam says:

    I was telling Kev that I have some American friends over soon and am taking them on a river cruise on Bank Holiday Monday from Tower pier. Thought I’d take them to Tayyabs for an early dinner. I guess I should book it.

  174. goonster says:

    gosh you said the word “virgin” and i pictured my girl friend’s younger sister!!!!!!!!!! anyway i failed my DMV test so you mugs are stuck with me today…………hahahahahaha hi adam, how are ya?

  175. goonster says:

    yep, and i failed. said i was thinking too much. had so much on mind she said but i pretty much doubt it. you all know i dont think.

  176. goonster says:

    anyway back to football……..after watching the community shield last night i dont think either teams are stronger than us. if we could keep our squad fit and healthy we ll really be a force. here’s hoping jack and bac sagna comes back stronger.

  177. southyorkshiregunner says:

    Will says:
    August 13, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    They can play in the same team. The beauty about it is – that, at their best they could interplay positions – 10, 7 & 11. It’d have the opposition all over the place.

  178. Will says:

    I am good but pulled a back muscle in the Gym Goonster, how are you?

    I am sitting here trying to work out the best midfield for us.

  179. goonster says:

    check this out will……..jack/arteta,mvilla and carzola. if we get sahin then i ll totally lose it. i think we should get rid of van prick. seems he’s not overly fussed with us anyway. giroud,poldi and theo should be enough for any team. i also think we should keep ashavin.

  180. goonster says:

    stop it adam…….stop making me picture alana, she’s only seventeen, sheesh. lee just passing through brother…..just passing through.

  181. Lee says:

    Yes Stan, got back from Spain on Sunday. I will buy you a pint of beer whenever you’re in London. Is there a chance your job could bring you this way?? I reckon Adam & AK will buy you a pint if you swing by here….

  182. southyorkshiregunner says:

    As a 4-2-3-1

    Wilshere-Arteta
    Cazorla
    Walcott-Giroud-Podolski

    Sahin-Wilshire
    Cazorla
    Gerv-Van Persie-Podolski

    Wilshere-Sahin
    Cazorla
    Walcott-Giroud-Podolski

    AOC-Arteta
    Arshavin
    Cazorla-Giroud-Podolski

    Wilshere-AOC
    Cazorla
    Walcott-Van Persie-Podolski

    Sahin-Arteta
    Arshavin
    Walcott-Giroud-Gerv

    The permeations are limitless. You could do it all day

    No Song or Diaby, too

  183. goonster says:

    if i ever get a visa into the UK am living next door to rico!!! since she started keeping chickens as pets i ve had a longing for chicken wings.

  184. rico says:

    Saturdays officials…

    Arsenal v Sunderland (3pm)
    Referee: C Foy
    Assistants: S Beck, S Child
    Fourth Official: T Kettle

  185. goonster says:

    that’s where mvilla comes in will…..never really rated song. wish we get him though cause i dont see us getting both him and sahin. but hey wenger’s gone ballistic so never say never……….hi micko, agag bath water huh? i ll drink that without blinking.

  186. rico says:

    Listed like that Syg, we are looking good.

    Add Capoue, M’Vila or even Wanyama and we’d be really strong.

    If I had my way we would get one of the above, Sakho and a GK…

    No Sahin…

  187. goonster says:

    bah, there you go again rico…….sahin is class. seriously have you ever seen him play? i hope we get sahin though even more than i want mvilla!

  188. southyorkshiregunner says:

    I’d rather we stick to proven players from with the top tier of the FIFA rankings, Rico….
    M’Vila or Toulalan or Martinez or Capoue would, I am sure be very fine additions ….

    ….but a SPL player from a country ranked behind Rwanda and just in front of the Lebanon (FIFA’s world rankings) doesn’t do anything for me…

  189. goonster says:

    SYG are you serious? scotland is ranked “just” ahead of rwanda? christ jesus! even with fergusnose!

  190. goonster says:

    hahahahahahahahahaha i read that all wrong….you mean kenya right. oh stan, you ll be the death of me.

  191. rico says:

    😆 Lee, yes …

    I thought the same RP, could have been worse, we could have had got Phil Dowd….

    Oh no we couldn’t, he failed his fitness test 😉

  192. southyorkshiregunner says:

    At one time the big clubs in Scottish football could attract the Di Canio’s and the Van Bronkhurst’s and the Larsson’s and the Arteta’s, but nowadays and sadly, they only attract second rate players from European football or the untapped raw power of Fu-Yong Eg from Tai Pe City or Reginald Smitherington-Forbes Junior from Barbados Rovers….

    Joe Ledley is possibly Celtic’s best player and Steven Naismith and Anthony Stokes possibly the best strikers …

  193. Adam says:

    Scottish football has taken a huge nosedive. Why is this? Where is WYG when you want a sensible explanation?

  194. rico says:

    goonster – i’d rather we sign someone on more than a loan…

    I do believe so Adam 😉

    Syg – I understand where you are coming from, but he’s a proper DM and most Celtic fans reckon he’s a player for the future and a bloomin good one…

  195. southyorkshiregunner says:

    Have you ever heard of the story surrounding the young 15yo girl social networking on http://www.stalker.com with another 15yo lass.
    They both have a similar thing in common in that they were both having problems with their parents “not understanding them”….
    However, in reality one of the 15yo girls really is a 15yo girl who’s really having problems with her parents; whilst the other is a 43yo computer nerd in Braintree called Arthur.

    What you see at face value isn’t always what you get, Adam.

    If WYG is white and from West Yorkshire, Adam then I’m a fucking China man.

  196. southyorkshiregunner says:

    Rico, most Celtic fans believe that their team are the best team in the world …… and if it wasn’t for Eduardo diving they’d have completed World domination by Dec 31st 2012

  197. goonster says:

    rico, you cant just sit back and let me bask in it can you? you just gotta piss my parade didnt ya? what did i ever do to you maam?

  198. southyorkshiregunner says:

    We offer Champions League football and a crack at the title.
    Liverpool offer a sixth place finish ‘Dingle by sunlight’ …..

  199. rico says:

    But we all know that kind of thing didn’t stop JV joining the neighbours, for someone like Sahin it will be about playing time… Otherwise, he might as well stay at RM…

  200. southyorkshiregunner says:

    Were we actually in for Vertoghen, Rico?
    Same with M’Vila.
    If Wenger wanted any of them they would have joined…
    Wenger is a big draw for players …Especially French players …

    Come to Arsenal and double your money for a couple of years … Then earn triple your basic when we flog you on to Manchester City …

  201. goonster says:

    sahin wont go to the totts maam…..he;s a big player and big players dont go on loan to small clubs! he’s coming to us i tell ya.

  202. goonster says:

    JV was scared shitless. he didnt wanna have to fight for his place. he’s a wimp’ we dont need his like here……….and maybe you re right when you say we were never in for him.

  203. Adam says:

    SYG. Made me laugh again. I do love a plain-speaking Yorkshireman. I do wish WYG would come back though. He was funny. Even if he was a15 year old from Brighton called Cyril.

  204. rico says:

    Well goonster, you got Cazorla right, let’s hope you are again with Sahin, but a permanent deal rather than a loan….

  205. emma says:

    Jamie Sanderson ‏@YoungGunsBlog

    Arsenal have completed the signing of Gedion Zelalem. US-born starlet has moved to London. Will be eligible from Feb, when he’s 16.

    Jamie Sanderson ‏@YoungGunsBlog

    Zelalem a massive prospect. US-born U16, but Germany U17’s keen to poach him. Tall, rangy, pass-master. Very highly rated.

  206. goonster says:

    wow great news on gedion zalalem….the kid is held in high esteem here. ……and rico am always right.

  207. emma says:

    rico- Am so confused on whom we should get. Sahin/M’vila? I guess thats what wenger is being paid for.

  208. goonster says:

    emma sweetheart, i ll take sahin in a blink of an eye. he’s going to be one of the best in a few years plus he’s really that good!

  209. goonster says:

    like you said emma, he’s not gonna join them. besides he wants to play for arsene and if he joins the spuds it ll make it harder for him to join us.

  210. ktr7 says:

    M’vila probably saw the shirt and wondered what kind of a club has a cock on a baketball as their logo?…

  211. Lee says:

    Nor me…just weirdo! I can highly recommend Waitrose fish fingers, McCain crinkle cut chips & Heinze baked beans! 😉

  212. rico says:

    What’s the gossip on twitter kev??

    Were TV’s invented when they last won anything, it was all on the wireless wasn’t it, and not the wireless we all know today….

  213. allezkev says:

    One For Wath…..

    Wyn Pierce‏@HaplessOwl

    Hopefully Abou Diaby can have an injury free season. If he does then its definitely like a new signing. Top player

  214. allezkev says:

    Hassan Ali‏@HaSSassin8

    Raphael Honigstein on Sahin: “He’s made them both aware that he’s not interested in a move to Spurs.”

  215. allezkev says:

    Another For Wath…

    Hamza Khan‏@hamzafirdousi

    Diaby’s going to explode onto the scene this year, his raw ability to burst past players cannot be replicated

  216. rico says:

    Under statement Lee…

    If yesterday was anything to go by Kev, i’d say he has no intention of signing a new contract with us….

  217. allezkev says:

    Arseholic‏@Arseholic

    Nicklas Bendtner to Danish press -“It is not an option to stay at Arsenal. It’s not something I want or Arsenal.”

  218. allezkev says:

    On the face of it Rico, i tend to agree, but as long as he’s an Arsenal player, we can hope.
    If anything, just to stitch up Ferguson…

  219. bondex says:

    I’m loving this…..any news on RVP is great news,he leaves,we get 20/25 million pounds…he stays we have a good goal scorer in our team…head or tail we win….

  220. allezkev says:

    That’s right Bondex, keep him past August 31st and if we are in contention for everything, he may have a rethink…
    Remember Wenger had to play this game every season with Vieira…

  221. rico says:

    I want him to stay Kev but…

    Good about Nik, thought he’d be long gone having heard his agent tell us all that so so many clubs are interested in him….

  222. allezkev says:

    Wenger has Fergie by the short and curlies Bondex, Fergie is desperate to get RVP.
    So just keep him hanging on…
    Give MU enough hope that we might sell.
    Then with 3 or 4 days of the Transfer Window to go.
    Tell ManUre to feck off, leaving them with no time to sign an alternative…

  223. allezkev says:

    Rico, if he does stay, all will be forgiven…

    In fact, don’t be suprised if he claims all this was a ploy, to get AFC to spend…

  224. bondex says:

    I feel like crying….just the tot of making rednose angry makes me wanna…………STAN where are youuuuuuu

  225. W.A.T.H says:

    There are some right plums on twitter with new player this and new player that… Only thing Diaby liable to explode is the sick bed…!

  226. rico says:

    I’m not sure he really has done anything to be forgiven Kev, all he has done is say what so many of us have thought….

    But, having seen who we have signed, he should be nearly convinced that AW is showing intent.

    Now is his time to sign and say that he is pleased with what the club has done and move on…

    If he doesn’t, then his statement will be just a pack of lies….

  227. allezkev says:

    At least you know Nico will wear his shirt with pride…

    Well, as long as he doesn’t copy Ashley Cole…

    Wath, oh yea of little faith…
    Diaby does it just for you…..

  228. goonster says:

    awwwwwww am gonna cry….nico is really a gooner. here’s hoping he makes it with us. am a huge fan. hey bondex, am here just went for a few burgers

  229. Scott from Oz says:

    Morning all.
    Great topic,and you’ve kept up the quality overnight.
    Well done guys.
    Off to work,so catch you all later.

  230. rico says:

    On that note, I’m off to sort the feathered ones out and have an early night – the OG closing ceremony kept me up well after my bedtime last night 😉

    Night all, have a good one…

    ‘Til tomorrow….

  231. ktr7 says:

    I ♥ AFC ‏@Goonersforever

    Last time London hosted Olympics in 1948 Arsenal won the league. Last time Arsenal started league with Sun’land Arsenal won the league.

  232. allezkev says:

    KT, what’s your feeling on Sahin?

    Personally, i doubt that M’Vila is coming, whilst Capoue has kinda faded away…

  233. allezkev says:

    Yeah, i knda miss In Arsene We Rust….

    Much prefer to be Smiley and Spastic, than a Negative Creep!

  234. goonster says:

    ok here goes nothing…..wenger out, he’s a senile mug. a french twat who has passed his prime. i want him out of my club. let him fuck off to france.

  235. ktr7 says:

    Sahin i’ve said is a very good player but i don’t know if he is really coming.we’re not used to having so much depth .if he comes we have the best depth in midfield in the league and among the very best in Europe.

  236. goonster says:

    kt, he’s coming. just watch it. i told y’all about carzola didnt i? sahin will be unveiled sometime this week!

  237. allezkev says:

    Lee, it was always there, just bubbling under the surface…
    We all knew how close we were, and now that the financial shackles are off, we might see a team slowly evolving, that could match any of Wengers best teams…

    The players know it. That’s why morale is so high…

  238. allezkev says:

    I know that Rico thinks he’s gonna go, but i suspect that Arshavin will stay.
    Maybe he likes what he sees…?

    You have a look and a serious think RVP…

  239. goonster says:

    hey we havent been to wembley since 98? where was i? hey, what about the 05 fa cup win against the manc scums?

  240. goonster says:

    hahahahahahaha AK, no they dont. its my specialty…..besides i picked it up from the british isle…..lee precisely.

  241. Lee says:

    Always a pleasure chatting to you smiley,AKB spastics! 560+ comments Kev, good work mate! On that note, I’m going to do one!! Good night all…..

  242. stevepalmer1 says:

    Sorry i missed all you guys, Nice one Sir Ak top read as usual,Arsene has got the bit between the teeth, makes me laugh when i hear Mankini moaning about tight owners, he needs new players like Kroenke needs another board member, we on the other hand can handle another couple, ten changes after the first half must mean we need at least another two, Robin it has to be said looked dejected, but when i hear supporters say we don’t need him, makes me shake my head, Robin was our savior last year and don’t you forget it, he was captain fantastic and we can’t afford to lose him no matter who we buy, supporters jeering him give it a rest we don’t want him playing against us. once again blinding post Sir.

  243. goonster says:

    AK am married to all things that can get me to cream! arsenal, AGAG, WWE(women’s match) etc… hi sir sp, wher have you been? i missed your wise cracks!

  244. stevepalmer1 says:

    Hi Kt and Stan, don’t worry i’ve been reading all your wise cracks its guys like you that keep HH the best

  245. stevepalmer1 says:

    sorry Stan my connection is playing up driveing me potty, working and fishing but now the season is nearing a start an getting excited.

  246. goonster says:

    watching the highlights last night one thing stands out! our ball retetion wont be a problem this season. just get arteta fit and let him play with his amigo and we ll be just fine.

  247. goonster says:

    good to see arteta has given himself a target……he wants to score double figures this season. atta boy.

  248. stevepalmer1 says:

    Carp & pike, but at the moment i think there on holiday, you been keeping well Stan and keeping out of trouble i hope. 🙂

  249. allezkev says:

    Hello Stan, you still there…
    Thanks Sir Stevo, look forward to your company once the fishing season ends…

  250. allezkev says:

    Gotta say my InterNet connection has been crap tonight…

    Brendan Rodgers is eager to sign wide men in this transfer window, and has been looking towards La Liga for reinforcements who will sit comfortably in his system.

    An interest has been registered in Tello, although not for the first time this summer Liverpool find themselves competing directly with Arsenal for the same signature.

    Both clubs have also been pursuing Real Madrid midfielder Nuri Sahin, with Arsène Wenger hoping a higher bid in terms of a season-long loan fee – and the additional attraction of Champions League football – will attract the Turk to London rather than Merseyside.

    Rodgers has been utilising his good relationship with Jose Mourinho, for whom he worked at Chelsea, in an effort to secure a deal for Sahin. The Turkish midfielder is expected to decide on his destination this week.

    Arsenal also have the advantage with Tello, 21, because Barcelona are interested in Alex Song, allowing for negotiations on a possible player exchange. A permanent deal would cost around £7 million.

  251. goonster says:

    sorry brenda rogers but them boys wanna play for a big team not some washed up “has beens”……hahahahahaha i sound like my county sheriff already.

  252. goonster says:

    jeez in my exitement i wrote 6000…..its 600 you ninny…..that’s a wrap folks. i am outta here….PEEEEEEACE!

  253. bondex says:

    603……finally,my laptop has been acting up would have been part of the record breakers….well looks like its a sign of things to come this season….arsenal breaking all the right records in epl,cl,capital 1 cup,fa cup what else…goals chart…. 🙂 🙂 🙂 …goodnight folks.

  254. southyorkshiregunner says:

    just in from the curry house.
    called my mate “mick the bookie” and – as a friend he’s given me fifteens on Arsenal to win the PL. just put £100 on it.

    We are 10/1 with Betfred.

    We’ll be 3/1 come October !!

  255. southyorkshiregunner says:

    606 – record?

    Did you know both Alan Ball and Bob McNab got booked in the 72 cup final v’s leeds?

    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmuVcHFB62A

    And that Lorimer scored a pen followed by both a penalty and an o.g for Arsenal to beat them 2-1 at Highbury the following season?

    I actually won a 15p bet with my uncle.

  256. Merlin96 says:

    ARSENAL were last night set to cave in and strike a deal with Manchester United for Robin van Persie.

    They are ready to start serious talks with United boss Alex Ferguson hoping to seal a £22million move before the weekend’s Premier League opener.

    United and Italian giants Juventus have yet to improve offers of £15m.

    Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4486111/Robin-van-Persie-transfer-Man-Utds-22m-deal-as-Arsenal-give-in.html#ixzz23TUWFbU7

    Latest rumor and a bit of truth….
    Doubt RvP will stay with fans turning against him……

    WENGER RAUS?
    Just wait when we lose to Liverpool, ManU, CHelski, ABu DHabi CIty and Tiny Totts….

    Goodnight all.

  257. Scott from Oz says:

    Merlin,RVP turned against the club and it’s fans,not vice versa…..not really sure how you can be serious with that statement.
    If you honestly think we will lose to all those sides,then again it shows you taking too much notice of your spreadsheet,and not the grass the games played on 🙂
    Steve,the fans booing RVP on the weekend were in fact German fans,and they were simply booing a Dutchman.
    The media have distorted the truth…funny that.
    Of course we’d be better off with him,but only if his heart is in it.
    One RVP knows if that’s the case.

  258. Scott from Oz says:

    Song has apparently agreed to personal terms with Barca,but Wenger is demanding we get Affellay and Tello as part of the deal.
    Better than waiting a few years to get the cash,isn’t it?
    It’s been a while since we’ve been in such a position of strength in the transfer market,and it’s great to see.
    Make all these bastards sweat,and agree to OUR terms!!

  259. Lee says:

    Olympiakos forward Kevin Mirallas has confirmed that his agent has held negotiations with Arsenal over a potential move to the north London side this summer.

    The 24-year-old’s form in front of goal for the Greek club, over the last two seasons, has caught the attention of a host of European clubs. And the Gunners were reportedly preparing a bid for the Belgium international earlier this month.
    According to Sky Sports, when asked if he had spoken to Arsenal, Mirallas replied: “My manager [has]. Me? No.” The player was then asked if the transfer might happen to which he replied: “Yes, it’s good.”

    The report says Mirallas has a release clause of €8.25m (£6.4m). The versatile forward, who can play either as a striker or a winger, netted 20 league goals last season and helped Olympiakos clinch the domestic double.

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    Mirallas had spells with Ligue 1 outfits Lille and Saint-Etienne before moving to Greece in 2010. The player admits that the prospect of joining Arsenal vice-captain and compatriot Thomas Vermaelen in England appeals to him.

    “Thomas plays very good at Arsenal and now a lot of Belgian players are in the Premier League. (Moving to England) It’s good for me, it’s good for my family and it’s a good opportunity, but I don’t know…it’s possible,” the Olympiakos hitman added.

    Sahin to decide future this week

    Real Madrid midfielder Nuri Sahin will make a decision on his future later this week, according to the Metro.

    The 23-year-old is preparing to leave the La Liga champions on a season long loan, after being told he is free to go by club boss Jose Mourinho. The Turkey international has attracted interest from clubs all over Europe, including Arsenal and Liverpool.

    AC Milan and Lyon were also linked to Sahin in recent weeks but the player could also be tempted with a move to his country, with Galatasaray and Besiktas having both expressed an interest.

    Sahin arrived at Madrid from Borussia Dortmund last summer but struggled to break into the Madrid line-up and made just 10 appearances in all competitions last season

  260. allezkev says:

    Morning Lee,
    Afternoon Scott,
    RVP is still an Arsenal player, or he was when i last looked!
    There are 17 more days of the Transfer Window to run.
    Let’s see where we are on the 31st before slitting our wrists…..

  261. allezkev says:

    At the final whistle, Van Persie walked over to the travelling fans and handed over his shirt and captain’s armband, for which he was again heartily cheered.

    The 29-year-old Arsenal captain is unsettled at the Emirates and is said to want a move, with Manchester City and Manchester United hotly in pursuit of last year’s Premier League top scorer

    Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/oddballs/908411-robin-van-persie-cheered-by-arsenal-fans-video-proof#ixzz23VJppTNb

  262. allezkev says:

    Exclusive: Ferguson makes RVP peace call to rival Wenger over United’s move for ace
    By Sami Mokbel
    PUBLISHED: 22:45, 13 August 2012 | UPDATED: 08:42, 14 August 2012
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    Sir Alex Ferguson has held private discussions with Arsene Wenger over Manchester United’s attempts to complete a dramatic swoop for Robin van Persie.

    And Sportsmail understands Arsenal are expecting an improved offer following personal contact between the two managers which took place recently.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2187937/Robin-van-Persie-transfer-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Arsene-Wenger-hold-talks.html#ixzz23VLLxrHU

  263. allezkev says:

    Sources say that a deal to take the Arsenal captain, who got 30 goals to win the golden boot last season, to Old Trafford could be completed by the time the season kicks off this weekend.

    It is understood the Arsenal manager repeated his insistence to Ferguson the 29-year-old would not be allowed to leave for United for a penny under £30million – but the Gunners will listen to offers starting at £20million with add ons.

    Ferguson’s personal intervention into the proposed deal to sign Van Persie underlines the club’s determination to land the Holland international.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2187937/Robin-van-Persie-transfer-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Arsene-Wenger-hold-talks.html#ixzz23VLcJ1kq

    [Gotta say, i’d tend to suggest ‘desperation’ as opposed to ‘detirmination’…

  264. allezkev says:

    However, the Old Trafford club would not be willing to meet Arsenal’s inflated asking price, placing serious doubt over the protracted move.

    The Gunners are willing to listen to offers starting at £20million, but Wenger is desperate not to sell his talisman to a Premier League rival – hence the sky-high price quote.
    United were quoted £30million during initial talks between the two Premier League heavyweights earlier in the summer and it seems Arsenal’s stance has not changed despite Ferguson’s private chat with Wenger.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2187937/Robin-van-Persie-transfer-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Arsene-Wenger-hold-talks.html#ixzz23VM600x6

  265. allezkev says:

    A shock move to Old Trafford now seems the only viable option for Van Persie in his attempts to leave the Emirates Stadium this summer after Manchester City and Juventus both stalled on their interest.

    And it seems Wenger is facing a fight to keep hold of another one of his stars after Alex Song said Barcelona are interested in signing him.

    The Spanish giants are huge admirers of the Cameroon midfielder, identifying him as a potential target.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2187937/Robin-van-Persie-transfer-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Arsene-Wenger-hold-talks.html#ixzz23VMHqQiD

  266. allezkev says:

    Sources in Spain have indicated that Barca will attempt to open talks with the Gunners this week.

    And when asked about interest from Barcelona, Song said yesterday: ‘I am not going to lie if I said there is no interest, but I am at Arsenal and I am happy at Arsenal.
    ‘Barcelona are the best team in the world, and speculation will always continue until the window closes.’

    The La Liga club’s interest in Song is another unwanted headache for Wenger in the build up to new season – though the club are growing increasingly confident of signing Theo Walcott to a new contract.

    Meanwhile, the ankle injury that has ruled Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain out of England’s clash against Italy is not understood to be serious.

    The midfielder withdrew from Roy Hodgson’s squad yesterday, but his removal is precautionary. Gunners winger Ryo Miyaichi has joined Wigan on a season-long loan

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2187937/Robin-van-Persie-transfer-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Arsene-Wenger-hold-talks.html#ixzz23VMWCbr3

  267. Adam says:

    Oh dear. I just received an e-card from Mrs Adam. Apparently it is our wedding anniversary today and I have forgotten about it. A face saving gesture is called for.

  268. allezkev says:

    Despite the wording in that and many other reports on Song and RVP, i can’t say that i’m shocked or suprised…
    As long as the revenue raised by their departures, is immediately invested in new replacements, then i see no problem…

  269. allezkev says:

    Jamie Sanderson‏@YoungGunsBlog

    Arsenal expecting new offer from #MUFC for Robin van Persie in next 24 hours. Around £20m. No idea if it will be accepted

  270. Lee says:

    When I got married my dad said the best way to remember your wedding anniversary is to forget it once! 😉

  271. rico says:

    That’s better than getting a clip round your ear from Mrs Adam….

    If Fergie and Wenger have been chatting as suggested, I guess the red nosed one has being told what kind of an offer will be accepted… £20M is a tad low….

  272. Adam says:

    Lee. That suggestion is of course touched with genius. But the last time Mrs Adam drove she drove one of our cars into the side of the other. I was compelled to make an insurance claim against myself.

  273. rico says:

    That would never surprise me Kev, Song rumours are the red herring??

    Villa, Afellay and Tello to us?? 😛

  274. allezkev says:

    Olympiakos’ sale of Miralles to Arsenal could be part-ex’d with Squillaci going the other way….

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