Morning all.
Ever since Gary Neville took up his punditry role with Sky Sports at the start of the 2011/12 season, Arsenal and Arsene Wenger have often been on the receiving end of much criticism.
I can’t remember all the things he’s said but he’s accused us of being weak, too short, too slow, tactically naive, arrogant, bad losers, disjointed and he even accused Wenger of being arrogant for not signing a beast of a defensive midfielder a couple of years ago. There’s plenty more insults which have been throw our way over the last few seasons, yet the ex long serving Valencia manager had the bare faced cheek to criticise an Arsenal fan who has probably travelled to most away matches over the years to watch his team play. But the funny thing is that I suspect that same Arsenal fan, along with many others believe that much of which Neville has said since he took his job as a pundit, is true.
‘An idiot’ said Neville when one Arsenal fan held up a small poster which politely read: ‘Enough is enough, it’s time to go.’
Neville doesn’t know what it’s like to have to pay big money to watch his football team, he hasn’t spent the last five or six years, if not more, watching this Arsenal team fall further and further away from the likes of City, Utd, Chelsea and now Tottenham as an Arsenal fan. He lays into them an awful lot but for him it’s onto the next game because Arsenal FC don’t matter to him, unlike us.
His weekend hasn’t been ruined, he won’t be turning up to work the next morning to a battering from Chelsea and Tottenham fans after a week where we lost to Watford and Chelsea with ease. Does he not realise that we fans hurt and most of us have run out of patience with Arsene Wenger.
Our demise hasn’t happened overnight, this little protest wasn’t just conjured up just because Watford beat us, or Chelsea, there’s a much bigger picture which clearly Neville can’t see despite slagging off everything about our club week after week, season after season so I don’t understand why he’s surprised that a few fans have posters of protest in their pockets.
Craig Burley is a totally different kettle of fish as he’s allegedly told ESPN Sport that it’s time for Arsenal fans to make their feelings clear:
These supporters really have to stamp their feet and shout and be heard in terms of the manager. This can’t go on they are 12 points behind Chelsea and out the title race, not that I ever felt they were in it going into this match.
They will probably go out to Bayern Munich in the Champions League and it’s same old same old. It was a total shambles.
Arsene Wenger has said he won’t stay on if he doesn’t feel the love from the stands and if things carry on as they are, which there’s no reason to believe they won’t, there might just be a few more posters on show before the season ends…
Whether you, me or anyone else isn’t a fan of protests in the ground is irrelevant as it’s the right of any one individual to make their feelings clear as they so choose.
And I can’t see things getting any better for the manager either, especially as Sky Sports report this morning that Wenger is very close to announcing he’s staying for another couple of years….
Finally, Mohammed Elneny should soon be back home after the ACON’s final took place yesterday evening. Shame his Egypt side were beaten but at least he’s back fit. We need him….
In all fairness, plenty supported Neville when he criticised Wenger in the past, so we can’t have it both ways.
Morning all.
Pundits….what are they, anyway?
People who believe they’re football experts but incapable of managing.
Blaaaah.
Plenty of people post here whose opinion I respect more than most of these tossers.
Evening Rico & all,
The Arsenal need to get a new manager in. To do it properly, & get the best available, it may mean that the Old Frog will have to stay on past seasons end to help with the transition. Unless of course The Club have already cast a broad net over candidates that are available. The gaffer from The Old Lady sounds promising?
GG, has he already been offered a new contract, and will he sign it?
Oh the joys hahaha.
Didn’t mean to pre-empt you with my last post on yesterday’s thread. Neville could be cast as a wolf ion woplf’s clothing. He has no love for the Arsenal or Wenger as witnessed by both he and his brothers claims to have kicked us off the park on so many occasions. It’s a shame that he wants to go on Arsenal fan TV to state his case as he will get treated to an interview that could potentially get nasty and it will give him the moral highgrouynd.
Potter, you’d like to think they’d tell him where to go, as he already has a platform to explain himself.
: ) Jeez Scott, you keep away from snakes? I take you subscribe to David Icke and the reptilians. 🙂
Hi George and all again..
If you mean me Potter, you didn’t. I wrote this one last night. Spooky though… lol
Yes we’ve been shit for the last two games and yes we’re all annoyed by the last week and yes maybe it is time that Wenger left, but let’s all put this in perspective. Chelsea have had a fantastic run recently and up to a while ago we were doing ok too, but it seems that everyone except Chelsea are doing just as badly as we’re only 3 points behind second place. Yes I know we don’t want to be aiming for second rather than first place but that’s sometimes (all too familiarly)the case.
Our title chances are incredibly slim this season, but so are most other teams and it’s only down to the lack of european football for Chelsea that they find themselves in this position.
I’m not sticking up for Wenger, I’m just making the point that after losing 2 games it seems that EVERYONE is screaming and shouting.
As for Neville, I hated him as a player at United, but as a pundit he seems to be reasonably well informed and not too biased. He shouldn’t have called the protesting supporter an idiot, but that’s his opinion and that’s all it is and he’s entitled to that. Doesn’t mean he’s right any more than anyone posting on here.
We’ve had a shitty couple of weeks, but things will get better at some point. No, we’re probably not going to win the league this year, but look at United, Chelsea, even the spuds when they’ve changed managers. Just be careful what you wish for as getting rid of Wenger may not be all it’s cracked up to be!
I personally don’t get why Neville gets slated.
Maybe Gary is the Apostle Paul… a repented man. 🙂
Seriously though, the likes of Phil Thompson, the drank Merson and co. have less credibility in my eyes than Neville.
Those pundits have been saying since 2006 that we will not be making the top 4. Logic tells me that they have been wrong so many times that they have no shame and should also resign from their gig on TV.
Well said about Neville though, the way he and the rest of that lot kicked Reyes time and time again was a disgrace. Can’t stand the guy myself although he talks a good tactical game.
Shame he couldn’t put all his knowledge to good use in management. Oh, he did didn’t he, and failed….
Scooch; you make an excellent point but you know you could be taken as someone scared of change. 🙂
Rico- you are right Gary tried and failed; maybe that is the reason why he is more measured in his views unlike the likes of Jamie and the 2 bob pundits
My screaming started after our two World Class players failed themselves, their fans, their manager and their club the other day.
I’m still cringing at what I saw from them.
Ginge, if they keep predicting we will miss top 4 long enough, they’ll get it right one day lol
Ginge, I think you right about Neville.
Experience has shown him that managing is a little harder than it seems on Xbox.
Scooch, it’s not about the last twp games, it’s about the last 6/7 years… It’s been a steady decline..
Not the ‘be careful what you wish for’ comment….. You could fire that one at those who want him to stay…
No disrespect but what does Craig Burley know or what has he achieved in his career.
All these peeps could contribute to football for both the EPL and SPL.
At least his uncle George seemed like a gentleman but Craig acts like another paid for shill.
When I hear most pundits speak all I hear is jealousy…especially when they go on about AW’s salary.
Never hate the player, hate the game as they say…
Ts, I don’t usually slate Neville for his views but as a man/footballer, I detest him. My point is he has no idea how Arsenal fans feel, he certainly doesn’t know how I feel and calling any of us idiots for expressing an opinion is wrong imo. Stick to spouting about what he thinks he knows best and leave it at that.
Ginge, he’s an absolute muppet.
How Burley gets a gig is a mystery to me, as he adds very little.
Ts, probably a lot more than you or I…. Re Burley…
Rico, Neville, does, however, know better than us how Wenger feels.
Today I feel not just let down but conned by my great club AFC. I am 74 and have supported them non stop and all over the country for 67 years. My proudest era was when George Graham took a serial failing club and made us so very hard to beat. The team he left was added to by Arsene in areas that George was reluctant to spend on Ie; Solid Midfield and top wingers. This proved to be a potent mix and Arsene won doubles and titles and cups etc. I have supported him throughout but not the board since the loss of David Dean. This board has no football past or interest. We have two billionaire owners (one being as rich as Chelski owner and almost as rich as Man City’s ) the other being just a billionaire who hates spending and sees us as just a money pit. The richest owner is not allowed a directorship but states that if he was a director he would give AW £200 mill to spend on players we just cannot get now. So AFC will remain a nearly club until world football stops the Chelski’s buying the trophies….this will not happen ! So what is to happen? Well I think AW should leave this summer, whatever. I think his replacement should only be someone who (A) Has proved he can take a club with average players and make them hard to beat. (B) someone who is not overrated because he (like Maureen and Pep) have had billions at their disposal. My choice would be between three. One would be the current Hull manager who ever after seeing his top ‘stars’ sold has turned them into a ‘rea’ team not a bunch of overpaid , flat track bullies. My second choice is Clement now of Swansea, similar to the Hull manager in that even though his squad is very ordinary has pulled of some fantastic results since his arrival. Third would be Bournemouth manager who has also proved that will tiny finance he has created a team who came up and stayed up , success based on average players and a couple of loans. Regarding our current squad, I would like to see a new manager have a massive clear out of so called super stars who have obviously been tapped up by others (the only explanation for their shocking displays in the big matches) . The Ozils and Sanchez ply Ramsey and Walcott have not ever justified the praise and wages they have been given. Sorry to say none of this will happen whilst our largest shareholder is not a director and allowed to invest………….so expect same old same old, and our once great club to become an also ran until it happens.
You may be right there. But at some point he might get things right and we may end up winning something important haha. The law of averages surely dictates that!
At most Wenger has another 2 years in the game IMHO and whereas I don’t necessarily want him to sign for another 2 years, I do think that we could do massively worse over those 2 years with someone else.
I’ve read a lot of people bashing Wenger for the last two results, but few bashing the team. With the squad we have we should be doing better and that’s by far all the managers fault.
How Scott? After just a few months in Spain?
He’s never won anything as a manager then watch on as all the great he did he slowly but surely undid…
Because that’s what Wenger has done. He’s gone from being a great, a true Arsenal great, to being considered an ageing and stubborn man who doesn’t know when to throw the towel in..
Lol…Scott- several of those pundits mentioned that Laudrupp could do a better job than AW after Swansea beat us once…
I mentioned Laudrup will be sacked the following season… trends and patterns. The shocking thing is that those pundits are not even good at their jobs…
I have a bit of respect for Gary because I know he actually pays out of his own pocket for stats… the rest just turn up and say what they think will make them popular.
Anybody can get lucky once but those who are remembered are tjose who consistently deliver.
Great post, Pete.
Lol Rico- I don’t know Gary but from what I recall he did not call the fan an idiot for merely expressing himself… it was the way he did it.
There is a video on the internet showing what the fan were saying about Aw; and it was worst than calling him an idiot
Then again it could be that Gary just wants us to ‘coast’ forever…
I honestly don’t disagree with you, but he won’t stay for longer than a couple more years. At the moment who would we get in that would have the same pulling power as him and that would make a positive difference? I am aware that I’m sounding like a complete pro-Wenger nob and I’m really not. I’m just saying that the way things are at the moment (last week or so aside) I’d err on the side of him staying than going.
Rico, he’s managed a large club…..none of us have.
Ginge, is he one of your clients, then 🙂 🙂
gunnerpete. It’s not good is it….?
But if Wenger was given £200 million I think he’d not know what to do with it and even if he did, for me his motivational skills and ideas are gone. Well, not so much gone with his ideas, they just seem to be the same as they were a few years ago but football has moved on…
We are soft, no fight, no passion, no pride, nothing……
Good one Pete… reasoned and balanced view imho…
I watched it Ts and saw/heard everything. It’s not like the fan couldn’t suddenly magic up a poster in protest is it? Of course he was going to take it with him because as said many times, this demise hasn’t taken place overnight, it’s been going on for years…
Lol… Scott . I have no such clientele… 😉
At least Gary ‘accepted’ that Flamini just use to flop his hands when fans thought Flamini was some sort of world class cdM.
Gary might soon talk about Sanchez perceived distance covered and hard work soon. 😉
You’re playing possum, me thinks, Ginge lol
I’d like to know if he’s been showing that poster during every game, or just when we lose.
I can respect anyone wanting Wenger gone, but not those who go into hiding when we win, then jump about when we don’t.
That’s right Rico. In reality very little has changed for 6 or 7 years now. If Arsenal want to charge top prices and treat us as paying customers then at least behave like a proper business and don’t continually reward failure with new contracts. Just what is Wenger going to do to win the PL or the CL if he is given another 2 years or even another decade?
As for Gary Neville? Nobody in their right mind should give a toss what he has to say. Once you are taking the Sky or BT shilling then your credibility vanishes. Look at the rubbish TH spouts now.
Rico- as I said the fan is entitled to his views on how we should get rid of Aw…
I personally disagree with the way some of our fans behave during games…
Some smaller clubs who do not just expect their teams to win every game show a bit more passion to drive their teams on…
Sections of Arsenal fans believe they can only be bothered if the team is playing well; I guess it is a chicken and egg situation…
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One question for fans questioning AW’s ambitions and calling him all sorts on other sites…
Apparently we live in a capitalist free market society where any hard working person with ambition can be as successful as they want to. so since the said individuals are ambitions and love Arsenal more than Aw and could do better, why don’t they show ambition to become billionaires and make Stan an offer he can’t refuse. 🙂
2) why don’t they write to the club with a business plan and say they will do AW’s job for 1 year on £100k and then after they have shown to have done better than AW they can be paid the market rate. 😉
I just don’t get the gripe sections of fans have with AW’s salary…
Well said Adam…
Saying that, listening to Sol Campbell on SS’s this morning is quite interesting…. Very honest about Wenger and the players,…
Totally with you Adam on your post above…
I love AW and I am an AKBer but its time for AW to go… ideally after an FA cup win with his head held high
Ginge, you are so right.
I am astounded when anyone criticises any managers salary.
Managers should earn more than players, as they’re a hell of a lot more important to the club.
Of course, if they’re failing, there’s an easy solution 🙂 🙂
… ” but not those who go into hiding when we win, then jump about when we don’t.” that make me lmfao Scott. 😛
As I said on Saturday; if fans are demonstrating every single game then it will make sense… like the chavs did with Rafa
Those ‘smaller’ clubs Ts don’t have the same expectations most Arsenal fans do. They haven’t had a big stadium built, been made promises to mix it with the big boys in Europe, to have money to spend on big players, to be able to afford any player barring Messi and Ronaldo…. etc etc
Let’s keep the scenario and compare us to Chelsea, City, Barca, Bayern etc because they are the clubs we were told we would be able to compete with….
Not the likes of Watford…..
I think it’s staggering that AW earns as much as he does just to keep us in the Champions League each season…
True even Fergie had a clause in his contract to say he had to be the highest earner.
I wonder if fans will be less frustrated if AW was on £2m a year salary?
Back to the pundits, I wonder where those claiming we should pay Theo and co. whatever they wanted ( a few seasons back) are?
When Theo was not signing they claimed AW was not ambitious to offer theo the going rate…
Funny how those same pundits claim Theo is not good enough for England.. 🙂
I was one of those who wanted Walcott to stay but now I wish he’d gone long ago. A footballer who had great hopes when he was at Southampton, ruined…
Same with OC, same with Ramsey these days, same with so so many…
Rico, doesn’t our club and it’s staff shoot themselves in the foot on regular occasions lol
Sometimes they should just keep it quiet.
I think all wages have to go public don’t they Scott?
Stan deems Arsene a success, and therefore upgrades and extends his contract.
Rico- don’t take this the wrong way… but we do not deserve the title.
I am sure the dippers, Chelsea, manure and city fans also have those expectations.
I think LC’s post from yesterday was spot on… if there was no financial doping then we would be winning the league almost yearly…
The rest is up to the owner; he has to break the self-sustaining model and invest like the other oilers or he sacks AW if he thinks AW is not delivering…
I honestly don’t know, Rico.
I just think that a manager can ruin a club in the short term, or “make” a club.
No player can do either, imo.
Rico. Some of us are born Arsenal supporters, some arrive from a different route.
The club moved to the new ground with the publicly stated intention of competing at the top of world club football. The new revenue streams and the continued stewardship of Arsene was meant to ensure this. We could argue as to whether they have been successful as they are punching away somewhere ‘near’ the top but, so far, no real success, if that is defined by winning. But, as we see, football has changed and the advent of the new tactical manager has been predictable but apparently not to Arsene who is doing the same old stuff, week in week out and losing. He should have won at least two and possibly three PL titles since his last success but, even last year, with a free-run to the title, his team bottled it. Are we to consider why or should we just shrug our shoulders and say “Oh well, perhaps next year”.
Arsenal fans must surely be entitled to have a realistic hope of success in every competition otherwise what was the move all about? Only a fool would deny that there is an established pattern to each and every season under Wenger. Injuries? Sure, they haven’t helped but the weak and feeble attitude shown by our players whenever a hurdle presents itself is surely reason enough to question what Wenger is doing. He must see it also. Be honest. Did you expect us to beat Chelsea on Saturday. If the answer is No, then why not?
The classic and oft-quoted dilemma of being grateful for all he has done while believing that he should go is established and most of us feel it. Rioch was sacked apparently because the board were left unimpressed at his plans for the coming season. I would like to think that someone would ask Wenger how he is going to address the glaring shortcomings within the team and himself IF he is offered a new contract but I doubt this will be the case. I ask again, if he couldn’t win the PL title last year, to name but a single season, then what will he do to win it next season.
It’s the savage disappointment that is driving the anti-Wenger feelings, not a dislike of him.
I know we don’t Ts, not under Wenger and this useless board. They are all gutless and past their time.
As Big Sol just said, the players Wenger signs these days are of a different mindset to those he bought back in the good days. Sol played with men, now we just have a bunch of boys…
Exactly Adam, but who is there to ask Wenger that very question? From what Sol said and others have often said, no-one.
And no, I didn’t expect us to win on Saturday and that’s because we are soft, average, lacklustre and weak… This current team looks like they only met the night before, were thrown a kick and told to do their best…
I know its frustrating for us but I think sometimes we fail to look at the whole picture…
Fans are now going on about Tottenham even though they have never finished above us…
They forget the spuds made a financial lost of £46 million and £28 million respectively 2014, 2015 after spending the Bale money.
When has Aw made such losses..
Unfortunately, football is a business for most owners apart from the oilers who are planning for life away from the oil wells..
Levy the so called pragmatic man summed it up by saying, “Our pragmatic player trading has been important in the way we have run the business of the club and in getting us to the position where we have now been able to start work on a new stadium.” Indeed, without those player sales, Tottenham would have reported losses of £141 million.
Rico. There you have it then. A new contract for what exactly?
Ts – it’s not about what Tottenham have done, it’s about what they are doing now. Surely you can see that? Same with the other clubs too.
For Arsenal and Wenger it’s all about what he did do and what he’s doing now for all the wrong reasons….
Adam, I agree with everything you said.
That savage disappointment has, however, turned into savage and disgraceful remarks, namecalling and personal attacks on the man, which is a shame and should not be excused by Arsenal fans with any decency, imo.
Understood-maybe.
I wonder what our best scenario would be…..maybe, Arsene concentrating all of his efforts on the Cup, and hopefully winning it, leaving at seasons end with someone coming in without CL to worry about next season.
Sound good?
Sound possible lol.
Adam, there is no for what. He should go…
No disrespect to Sol but will the Sol of 2003 take us to EPL title if he was in our current squad?
I remember him being captain of a spuds team under GG and other managers who use to spend more than Aw did and still flopped.
I recall him jumping ship just to be able to have a piece of the pie…
I feel sorry for AW; because it seems he gets no gratitude rom his former players..
What happened to sol when he came to join us the second time?
Ginge, he gets plenty of respect from the very best of our ex players, imo.
Rico, there is one man who can ensure Arsene isn’t here next season….I’m not saying who 🙂 🙂
I agree Rico. but it seems as though it is ultimately up to him. With all that entails.
I enjoy watching Arsenal…. used to attend games at Highbury and Emirates but I dont support them monetarily anymore, not since I realised the truth
The truth is simple, the rise of professional sports as entertainment emulates “Bread and Circuses” in the Roman Empire, this is how we are distracted from reality while the worse corruption and injustices happens around us, you know, the sort of thing mainstream media ignores because they are incredibly corrupted (yes including the BBC)
If you think Arsenal fans are ripped of because they pay the highest prices for tickets then you have no idea how badly we are all ripped off by our monetary system
“If people of this nation understood our monetary system I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning” – Henry Ford…. seriously, look it up, Fractional Reserve Banking, search in yotuube for biggest scam in the history of mankind
Football is children’s entertainment, in the 1800’s people could care less, they wouldnt let a children’s game affect their lives but now so many people’s lives are so meaningless that football is a big part of it and the results of some team determines your mood.
Football is also part of the infantalization of society, hence why so many grown ups are still children, the average emotional age of maturity of people in the UK is probably not more than 14 yrs old, I have seen grown men slamming doors and crying when Arsenal dont get a result… that is mental illness, not passion… how can you be passionate about something you are not part of? passion of being an spectator?
“So tell me little boy, what would you want to be when you grow up? what would make you passionate”
Little Boy: “being an spectator!!”
This is all social engineering, they have taken that natural human feeling of being part of a tribe and put it into a meaningless endeavour (football) and when it comes to things that really matters (economy, civics, constitutional rights, real communities that fight corruption, higher quality of live a real place within your peers, etc) we are disfranchised because we think that is the cops’/Government role. yet they are the root cause of most of these problems.
And instead of us being passionate about helping ourselves and each other, we are programmed to be passionate about a team of rich people kicking a football and playing children’s games…
That ladies and gentlemen… is the definition of brainwashing.
Wenger can go or can stay… Arsenal can win the title or go 15 years without it… I know it wont change my life or the lives of people around me at all… it would be nice but frankly, meaningless.,,, it would be like having a threesome with 2 gorgeous girls… nice… but meaningless.
Football is only good for spending 2 hrs zoning out… we al need to zone out every now and then… but lets face it, that is not the case for the hardcore fans who would likely spend dozens of hours each week reading Arsenal articles, transfer rumours, talking about it at work, travelling to games, etc…
Put half of that time in educating yourself of what is really going on in this world and that will benefit you more than Arsenal winning the treble for 5 years in a row.
#WengerWhatever
Scott- if we drop out of the UCL spots, history has shown it is near impossible to get back in…
Ideally, he wins the FA cup, finish 2nd or 3rd and walk away…
We get Ancellotti in to win the EPL in his second season with Arteta or Keown as his assistant
Ginge, you may well be right…..probably are, but Chelski have done well this season without CL.
I guess it depends on the clubs situation.
I confess I was more upset with the defeat with Watford than with chelsea. I think also winning Watford, was facing the game with chelsea differently. And Chelsea himself, too.
Ahead.
Of the three consecutive games, for me, the most complicated preview was with the (new) Hull. I might be fooled, but I would not sleep peacefully with this new Hull.
I keep what I’ve already put on the new coach: a) Hull’s. It should not be too expensive. They are following their evolution. (B) that of Monaco. PSG was a virtual champion at the start … I think they play with the totts for a championship. Also follow …
AW has always said the day he thinks he is not doing his best for the club he will walk away… if he is to be believed.
For an odd reason the man thinks he is still the best man for the club;
The ball is in the court of the owner…
Sol wasn’t at all rude about Wenger Ts, quite the opposite…
Surely we need a younger man with new ideas and a burning determination to win that he can pass on to his players. Plus of course absolute zero tolerance for players who don’t put it in and embody a team ethic of strength, determination and a certain contained belligerence. This doesn’t neccerssarily mean big names either.
It has been in that pricks court for a few years, Ginge 🙂
As do I believe that Adam..
Ts, he’s fibbing then. Because he hasn’t been at his best for a while, fingers crossed the penny has dropped before June…
Great post Rico and thanks.
Nice comment by Scooch, even though I thought the title was over when we lost to Everton and Mansour City in 4 days not the two current losses ! 🙂
Funny old game football, look at Chavs and Leicester last season and this season, basicaly the same squads apart from………………..Kante !…………………the player who Arsene has admitted tried to sign twice !……….and on the second occasion basically said we could not compete with Chavs !…………..you know that team, one of the teams who Gazidis said we could compete with !…………..and look at link below, our enormous cash reserves are talked about aswell as the player above who we cant afford !.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/585704/Arsenal-transfer-budget-Arsene-Wenger-Stan-Kroenke-Jim-White
Yes I know !………Daily Star and Talksport……the dream team !. 🙂
Two things we need !…….one which aint going to happen !…………..new mega rich spend like there`s no tomorrow owner and two……Wenger goes soon and we try to compete on the tactics/coaching side !………every man and pet Buffalo knows this !.
Please read ; http://onlinegooner.com/article.php?section=exclusive&id=3574
Rico, if he’s not doing his best, but believes he is, then why isn’t he removed?
Surely someone is compelled to do something about it.
As far as transfers go Wenger has probably made as many good decisions as bad. Does anybody think that Kante would have been the player for us that he was for Leicester and is for Chelsea? For a start he would have been sent off at least 3 times so far this season.
Anothet problem we have is Wenger prioritising 4th spot above FA Cup and CL !……………we aint going to win the league, so prioritise the Cups, it`s what the fans want not the CL qualification money and who knows not being in CL next year might help us win EPL like last years champions and this years Champions !
Spectrum, the first thing I saw was Arsenal is bigger than one man, but reading on, it seems the author doesn’t believe that.
If he did, he wouldn’t blame every single failing on that one man.
Anyone blaming Wenger for the shit performances of Alexis and Ozil v Chelkis is kidding themselves.
Yes, Wenger should go, but players must be taking responsibility as well,imo.
As for our Yank mate, no comment.
LC, is it Arsene prioritising, or someone else??
Just asking 🙂
Who picks the team, Scott ? 😉
Oh dear, the shite has really hit the fan today…
Never mind Elneny will be back soon to save the day…
Good post Rico and morning to you…
Scott- you and I know there is always an exception to every rule…
I think Lincoln has a saying about making rules based on the exception… 😉
We know Chelsea and city will do whatever it takes to be where they want to be.
A young and ‘ambitious’ manager will an ideal replacement;
Even Moyes was being touted as AW’s replacement 2 seasons before he took over at Man ure…
Now the question is how long should manure have kept Moyes for?
How much has it cost Yanited to get rid of Moyes and their former dutch manager
History has also taught us… from Ajax, Bayern Munich, Milan, Valencia, Psv, Monaco, Inter, Juventus, Barca to most recently manure that the transitional period right after long serving manager can be very uncharted…
Stan has not shown to fans that he will be willing to cut his loses and so I guess we have to be prepared as nothing is guaranteed.
Now someone will say I am scared of change or that they know we can do better with another manager and so it is up to Stan…
Who picks the manager, LC hahahahahaha
Farrier is here !………..fcuking horses get treated better than me and I dont even ride out on them into the sunset looking for fit good looking Buffalo !
Thanks LC.
Agree re the big names Adam, they guarantee nothing. Elneny is the current example of that…
Morning Kev, thanks..
Scott- get with the programme mate..
Wenger is his own pass; he decides how much he gets paid and does his own appraisal…
I think Aw has a video of Stan and IG doing something naughty (separately) 😉 so they are scared of him. 😛
Ginge, you know I’ve questioned the reputation Pep has, but plenty around the net have written him off already……any manager should be given a second season, at least, and I’ll judge him next season.
Moyes was on a hiding to nothing and he was silly to take the gig, imo.
AW is his own boss*
Both need fcuking shooting, Scott !…. 🙂
Lol Ginge.
I reckon the Yank saw Arsene as his golden ticket, to be honest.
Arsenal are not Arsenal without Arsene, he believes.
And if Arsenal aren’t Arsenal, the Yank doesn’t make the cash 🙂
My dear Mr Adam,
I have giving it a lot of thought recently, the new manager and all, Allegri , Teuchel, Eddie Howe who I know you favour, and a host of other prospective and highly qualified candidates come to mind.
But, I have come to the conclusion that only Kim Jong-un can sort this mess out…
He is young and fabulously fit, has a wonderful grasp of tactics and is up there with the best when it comes to the most cutting edge motivational techniques,
which usually revolve around a firing squad.
He is the man for me…
LC, I’d shoot the Yank and put Arsene out to pasture!
Pep is a world class manager but he is no miracle worker.
Of course he will be given a carte blanche and the likes of Merson and co. will be back salivating. 🙂
Kev, how about Trump making Arsenal great again??
Ginge, I’ve never said Pep isn’t a good or great manager, just, imo which counts for very little, he had to prove himself in a tough, competitive league.
Now don’t be silly Digger… ?
Farage for me ! 😆
But you did picture it, just for a second, hey Kev hahahahaha
Seriously, what a great coach is that Eddie Jones…
Thank heavens we have a Kiwi in change of our rugby…
Sensational, Kev lol.
Pure gold.
He’s got your Welsh lads firing, I must admit 🙂 🙂
Just for a second Scott… ?
Top post rico and I couldn’t have put it any better. ..
I think we all agree it’s time for wenger to call it a day…even the die hard akbs are saying it albeit with some hair splitting along the way.
I think Gary Neville ‘s being an idiot calling the arsenal fan idiot.
I thought it was very convenient timing and place to hold a very polite banner. ..well done to him.
On that note, I’m off guys, so have a great day.
Thanks Kk…
I wonder if it was just the one fan, or others too. I didn’t see..
Later Scott
Well rico, according to what’s going on on social media the majority of arsenal fans across the globe are tired, frustrated simply bored of the stale situation we found ourselves in every year.
Apathy is as close as it comes when describing how one feels.
@truthspeaker
Life is an emotional rollercoaster. .and football (competitve sport) is a big part of it..
Kev- I like the idea of Kim and his toupe but we don’t want Dfumpf sending the frog men to the stadium on match day in any attempt at getting rid of him…..
Uncle Bob has always been my man personally; he has the staying power, plus he is a knight of the Realm; imagine his 5th brigade telling the players to drop their pants and taking lashes to their bare back side after a dismal performance..
kk- views on LG are not scientific. 🙂
I am sure if the fans travelled to china later today their will be a host of flag wavers with AW on it. 🙂 Damn, they are not proper fans… lol
Good Kk, let’s hope they get through to Wenger and he leaves…
Neither our anyone else’s Ts, in fact some are simply bizarre… imo of course.
As for the Chinese, they can have him…
Not making excuses but I believe when the club made a decision to move stadiums they did not expect BT to come back fully loaded to inject more money into the EPL.I think if the spuds and even the chavs were in the same financial situation as we were in in 2005 -2008 maybe they would be making prudent moves instead spending big ahead of moving stadium.
Luckily for the Spurs they are not in the situation with bank funding arranged via Rothchilds’ from Deutch bank for a stadium move…
Before the latest BT TV deal, the spuds were preparing to sell all their top players in order to finance the move…
Maybe if we had similar TV deal when we were about to build the stadium AW might not have allowed half the squad to walk away…
Hi all
Personally I have no time for Gary Neville in any capacity. Don’t forget he has also been England Assistant for two completely shambolic tournaments!
As for Craig Burley. He was radio co-commentator the day Eduardo had his leg smashed up at Birmingham and he accused Eduardo of making a meal of it! He digs us out at every opportunity!
You can add another no mark, Danny Mills to that list. When 5live listeners were rightly saying that Alonso’s ‘challenge’ on Bellerin was a foul, Mills responded that “you could equally say that Bellerin fouled Alonso”!!!! So in the world of Mrs Mills, having your jaw forearmed/elbow by an out of control player is now a foul! Mills is another mug who hates us because he was constantly humiliated every time he played against us. Just like Robbie Savage.
Sorry Rico
Reg 791 is me but I am having some IT issues!
🙂 If the Chinese manage to clone AW, Stan could have AW going on forever.
So if AW is able to motivate his squad to beat Hull, does that mean that Marco Silva is pants? lol
Hi TSGH,
LG, FB, twitter, comments on online news papers and sport channels is very scientific and real STATS figures.
Anyone who thinks wenger is still the best man to manage the club is just showing unjustified loyality. .just like wenger does with his underachieving players.
Some people are just too loyal ..part of their characters and how they brought up I guess. .
Sections of fans rate Gazidis for his acumen as a CEO but he cant even sell our better players for a good prize …
I personally think IG has the cushiest job at Colney…; he van sleep well knowing AW has the big personality to shield him from any flack from the fans.
Maybe because IG has no footballing experience he does not personally make contractual decisions.
Compare our CEO to even the spurs Chairman…
A big broom is needed at the club. 🙂
🙂 kk
It just struck me, if as John terry said cech is worth 5 to 10 points in a season right.. and we are on average on similar points as we have been over the last 4 seasons then; we are seriously in the proverbial creek. 😛
Factor in the so called contribution of AS17, then without those 2 we will be 2 points above Leicester. lol
Not now Bob… 😉
Ts, if’s and but’s are all well and good, but the reality is, AW and his players is dishing up crap football each week!
1.48 Ts, doesn’t Wenger agree the price for our players when they are sold?? If we are to believe he and Fergie sorted the RvP deal over the phone, then Ivan didn’t have much to do with it…
Also, where does Ivan fit in with what’s going on on the pitch? The club seems to be running just fine financially, it’s just the football which is rubbish…
Does this now mean Ivan and Stan are to blame for us losing to Watford and Chelsea and not Wenger?
I think AW should go. For me 20 years at one club is too long and the 10 years of declining returns is a justification.
Interestingly most here think that AW is doing 3 jobs: his, IG’s and SK’s….which is one of the many reasons he should be blamed, then why complain about the salary? He’s getting pay for 3 jobs.
Rico, if we are comparing results/ successes with Bayern, Chelsea, City, United etc., why don’t you care if TS is comparing deficits by the Spuds? To both Stan and AW financial success is the main evaluator of the manager and the club.
I am always baffled when fans says “be careful of what you wish for ” AFC was there before AW and it will be there after. No one is saying AW hasn’t done well, he has, its just that now the club has to go in a different direction. That idea of AW can’t be replaced is ludicrous. Life is about adaptation, when there is better information you adjust. We have 10 years of information that says if we want to win the EPL we must go in a different direction. However if you want top 4 finishes stay with AW. I reckon that most AFC fans want titles.
The big elephant in the arsenal is wenger. .Gazidis and even stan are just little mice. .sad and bizzare but true.
Since the defeat by west ham at the Emirates I knew Cheh was not all that hype anymore. .
But he is definitely an upgrade to the alumnias and fibianskys wenger stubbornly stuck with..
Obi, because I care only about Arsenal, what the Totts get up to is their business… Plus, justifying our position by using some other clubs downfalls, means very little to me.
It’s just an excuse…
Must admit Kk, I was thrilled when we signed Cech but nowadays he looks a liability at times.
Perhaps AW might think about Joe Hart….. 😉
Hi Rico and the House
Arsenal fans have to take a long hard look at themselves, because their sycophantic worship of Wenger has caused this boring stagnation.
There are still Arsenal fans out there now who worship Wenger – albeit the minority – but we’re in this situation because our fans aren’t angry or vocal enough to instigate change.
Again there was bitter fighting among Arsenal fans at Chelsea on Saturday, because the fan-base is split, and the reason for this is that the club itself are struggling to nail down a proper identity.
It doesn’t help that there’s zero communication between club and supporters, but something has to give way.
There were plenty of Arsenal fans who were delighted when Wenger signed another extension in 2014, not me. I was seething with anger.
Not from hatred, but because I realised that his philosophy is flawed and that he has a ceiling he just can’t break through.
I remember the 2009 CL semi-final with United. They murdered us at OT, but somehow we escaped with only a 1-0 defeat. In the build-up to the return leg at the Emirates, Wenger was extremely bullish and confident of turning them over, which, granted you want to hear from your commander in chief, but not when it is ridiculously mis-placed. Did he genuinely believe that a raw 18 year old kid would stifle the threat of one of the world’s best footballers? And whilst no-one can legislate for the unfortunate events that followed, why would you allow your club to be in such a situation when they’re challenging for such an elite prize?
Then there was the totally shambolic 8-2.
Fifteen years at the club, fully knowing the rules, including the routine CL qualifiers in August, and he was presiding over a squad all over the place. He’d already lost Nasri to City, his captain was refusing to play, and we’d already lost 2-0 at home against an ordinary Liverpool.
But it is more the reaction to the 8-2 that defines Wenger’s limitations.
A mad last minute trolley-dash to restore his battered reputation, and secure enough not to challenge for the title, but to get his ‘fourth-place trophy’.
It also destroyed the myth that transfers take an age to negotiate. Five players were brought in, Andre Santos, Per Mertesacker, Mikel Arteta, Yossi Benayoun (on loan because he was unsure whether or not he could get Arteta), and Park Chu-Young.
Two players most of us have never heard of, and two of the other three with their best years already behind them. I omit Mertesacker only because he won a World Cup in 2014, but it’s fair to say that none of these players were bought to elevate Arsenal to the next level.
And we accepted it, carrying on with this false charade of excitement, because everyone is too frightened to think of anything other than our great French saviour.
We needed Suarez, Ozil not so much. But after the toxicity of the 3-1 opening day home defeat against Villa, Ozil’s signing was greeted with much exaggerated delerium among our faithful, and signalled a clear indication that Arsenal were ‘changing their approach…’
– The thing about Ozil that many Arsenal fans fail to grasp, is that Arsenal use him completely differently than what he was used to in Spain. At Real Madrid he was in a relatively uncompetitive league which is a lot slower and far less intense than our PL. Plus more often than not, he only had to play about 60 minutes a game before being taken off and rested. Compare that to the work-load expected of him at Arsenal. It’s a complete culture change. –
Some might dig Wenger out for last season’s ‘missed opportunity’, but the one that was truly glossed over was 2014. Arsenal were in a position of power, top of the table at the end of January, and with breathing space. It was alleged the club were sitting on a war-chest of £150m and some reputable sports journalists were seriously questioning why they weren’t cementing their position, whilst bringing in a loan signing who wouldn’t be available for three of the four months left.
Wenger surrendered the PL title.
According to his own priority list, winning the PL is right up there at number one, whilst winning the FA Cup ranks only as fourth, just above the League Cup.
So what us fans are complicit with, is allowing a manager to use achieving his fourth priority to deflect all attention from the fact that from a winning position, he ended up miles away from his top priority, and having successfully blinded us all with a glint of meaningless silver, he is free to sign another contract.
Perhaps as fans desperate for some success we missed the bigger picture, but he really should have been left in no doubt that he was no longer needed after scraping past Hull at Wembley.
If we can’t rally the troops and make enough noise to invoke the radical change that’s needed, then we deserve exactly what we’ve got.
Rico- we can say we only care about what Arsenal does until the cows come home but we are in a league competing with 19 other clubs…
One can fans say they only look at Arsenal and then the next minute say other clubs are doing better than us..
Not forgetting that is what AW says he does as well;
The league is about competing with other clubs; if we were in a one league race I am sure this debate will not be taking place.
On the RVP sale, Fergie reckon his ‘negotiation was going well until AW stepped in’; it just tells me that Fergie was happy dealing with the incompetent CEO and co before AW stepped in…
It is irrelevant really. As they say one mans’ meat is another man’s poison.
AW and Stan think the club is doing ok…
PHW said its their club; Those who claim to be born into supporting Arsenal should walk to the club and remove AW;
Kk- if IG sits on the board and calls himself an Executie Member and a CEO and the owner is mice then we are a mickey mouse club imho;
If a billionaire investor believes one of his biggest investments is in safe hands of Aw then do we think name calling between fans on social media is going to change his mind?
Yes Rico , to be honest he saved our buts on many occasions. .but he certainly not the same beast he used to be when he was winning titles with Chelsea.
Mind you, our comical defending sometimes makes even the great zoff and other goali legends look like a drunk teenager on a night out.
Chech though has weakness stopping long and low shots I realised, and hopless in saving penalties. .?
Agree TSGH we are in deep trouble expectations wise..
as other things might look rosey on papers, reality is the fans are not happy with finishing 3Rd and fourth in the league, doing the same thing year in and year out for the last 12 years or so..
So when wenger talks about cosistancy and mental strength, to most is just taking the piss.
Conundrum. .??
Great comment Herb !
I too remember when we bought Park Chu-Young and to this day there are still posters for missing dogs on lamp posts around London Colney !…………………” My Fluffy is missing”…………………..”Has anyone seen Fido ?”
KK- I want AW out as well but only because we know what we get with him every season; It has become all too familiar.
In my view football is about excitement, expectations and the unknown; with AW we can sleep and come back in April and see the same script being played out..
In my view, the reason for that is partly to do with his naïve and idealistic views on football; but the bulk is caused by the club hierarchy accepting they do not want to compete; financially it is too much of a gamble.
The likes of what Chelsea, city and Yanited have invested in the last 10 years will not be recouped in the next 5 years but their respective owners are playing the long term game.
Do I believe AW is still a decent manager. Do I believe he is better than the likes of Klopp and the spuds manager. I believe so…
Anyone can check out what I wrote on 24 Sep 2016 before we beat Chelsea.
I said AW ‘ Aw will beat Conte this time around because Conte attends AW’s UEFA seminars… but after the lose Conte will change formation and go back to 3-5-2 and go on to possibly win the league but AW will carry on the same way and end up 3rd at best…
I have watched Conte and he has also lost 3 or 4 games because he did not have Pirlo or Vidal…
why do we think Conte left Juve taking a pay cut when he knew Vidal and Pirlo were about to go? That is the difference, AW is a different animal…
I also doubt Conte would be at Chelsea if Ancellotti was at Milan from 2012 onwards and Berllusconi had not had his issues…
🙂 LC
I thought it was Dev who went after Rico’s chickens…
Park was bought by AW to save his old club Monaco…
So what you’re saying T, is that rather than concentrating on making Arsenal genuine title contenders, he has a sense of duty towards Monaco and uses our club’s money as a charity hand-out?
The same Monaco who recently dumped us out of the CL round of 16?
2.39 Ts. I really don’t think you get what I mean….
Hi Herb. Another really good comment. Everything you said makes total sense…
Sorry about the moderation thing, it’s being looked into as I can’t work out why just your comments go into moderation..
Hi Rico,
It may be best if I stop blogging here because all my comments are going into moderation, and you’re not always around to ‘un-moderate’ them.
Don’t Herb, please. As said, a teccy guru is looking into why and hopefully he’ll know why…
I’ve tried… Failed though, a bit like Wenger…
3.37 Herb, hilarious. Park was just a waste of money….
Herb. Agree with your 2.34.
Lol IG is still the 3rd highest paid CEO in the EPL… lol…
If you add his £1m annual bonus he is actually the highest earner; you cant make it up
Maybe if we pay him some more and make him the highest we can become EPL winners. 😛
IG has negotiated the worst commercial deals for us…; now one can’t tell me the bin-dippers have a better commercial deal because they won the UCL in Istanbul.. lol
Odd how Chelsea’s Marina Granovskaia is only fifth highest earner and she actually does proper work. Where are the women to demand she gets paid more for bring success to the club.
Anyone can check out what I wrote on 24 Sep 2016 before we beat Chelsea.
I said AW ‘ Aw will beat Conte this time around because Conte attends AW’s UEFA seminars… but after the lose Conte will change formation and go back to 3-5-2 and go on to possibly win the league but AW will carry on the same way and end up 3rd at best…
I checked, didn’t find it Ts….
Great comment herb,
TS you are just too loyal to your chief commander. Lol..
Someone with your football knowledge and passion should realize that wenger has either become a deluded stubborn dictator, or a completely fraud serial lier who puts his own personal gain before that of the club and it’s wellbeing..
This stan/wenger debate is meaningless Imo.
Nobody can deny that stan, by his ack of involvement is ruining the club..
However it’s wenger who can put all that to bed if he calls it a day and let the club and the fans move on..
even if we move backward. .it might just triger the fans revolt against the hierarchy. .
Arsenal are never going to get a big big money sponsorship deal imo, not until the club start winning things…
Don’t be fooled Kk, Ts copies and pastes his info from elsewhere… 😉
Lol so I am being accused of telling lies… dear or dear Rico
KK- will you walk away from this gig if you were in AW’s shoes? 🙂
Most times things are logical, if as you said those who still like AW are in a small minority then surely the views of the so called minute AKBers should matter least…
All I read most times is that IG is ambitious but its AW who is the problem but IG cant sack AW because the dictator has all the power.
I will tell you what I will do if I was on £4m plus salary and walking in IG’s Testoni shoes…
I will show to Stan compelling evidence why we should sack AW. I will argue that we are the 5th most valuable club but our commercial deals are on par with the spuds and lower than Liverpool because of Aw.
I will say that Nike dropped us because they said we win jack all because of AW…
But as we know IG is also on the gravy train and he knows if AW walks he will follow a year later just like his friend Tom Fox was sacked by Aston Villa. Both know f all about football…
Can someone explain to me why IG signed a contract with a clause stipulating a penalty for dropping out of the UCL, whilst even spuds and bin-dippers do not have similar clauses.
If AW is such a dictator then why the f are we paying IG so much for nothing?
Anyway.. the more I get drawn into this debates the more likely I am to get myself in trouble with Rico so.. latest.
You forgot that it was lord wenger who interviewed and appointed IG in the 1st place..so all your argument is not valid.. lol..
Not at all Ts but so much you write never really seems to come from your heart, just facts and stats… Or ‘I said this, I said that’……
One last one.. would Jose have walked away from RM or Chelsea if the heat was not too much for him.?
I doubt Pelle’ would have walked away if he was left to run his own show at city.
Neither would LVG have walked away from BM or MUFC…
I remember Pardew signing a 9 year contract at NUFC
I am yet to be convinced why AW should walk away when his employers offer him more money to stay for whatever reasons.
I doubt Obama would have walked away if the constitution did not require him to go after his 2nd term…; nor would Blair or Cameron have walked if their party bosses did not put pressure on…
I have never heard of a manager walking away because he thought he was not good enough for the job…
We can all read between the lines when a club releases a statement with … mutual consent’ in there.
My view is simple, fans who are unhappy and bother to go to games should simply demonstrate win or lose for the next 14 games and maybe the CEO and owner will realise where fans stand
I blelieve Kevin Keegan walked away from England for that very reason TS. 🙂
Kk, the guy from Vodafone would gave been better, he is an arsenal fan…
They did and some idiots called them idiots
As did Steve Bruce from Hull…
I meant as reply to TS re fans demonstration. .
Actually, he didn’t walk for that reason, but he walked…
Very true Kk. Burley might be a bit of a twit but in principle perhaps he’s right. If Arsenal fans want Arsene gone, then they have to be heard…
Ok, you got me there Adam re. Kevin… 🙂 saying that Keagan has resigned from every single job…
But that brings up a good point for discussion as well
As Kevin said when he resigned from Newcastle in 1997 he wanted the best for NUFC; saying that since he left has the club he claims he loves done better/
If he truly loved the club and was not merely trying to save face he might have stayed and done the best for the club if he truly believed he was the best person for the job…They finished 2nd if I recall…
So again it might read like I am making excuses for AW, but maybe AW is deluded enough to think he is doing Arsenal a favour by not walking away. lol
The club have to push AW and then the ‘mutual agreement statement can be released…
🙂 True Rico re. Steve Bruce but his reason was that there was no transfer activity…but with Silva coming in and doing so well after selling his 2 better players (that we are talking about him taking over a club like Arsenal) then it does say something about Stevie?
I like Brucie btw…
I am as frustrated as fan; I am merely playing the devils advocate
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-fan-branded-idiot-gary-9768344
I did rectify my Bruce comment Ts. I admire him for being honest. Shame Wenger hasn’t ever been so honest about transfer money etc etc, instead we just got spun the line about if he could find someone better than he has then he’d sign them…
I wonder if he thought that when he signed the likes of Santos….
🙂 rico… Santos fell through the big crack. 😉
AW was merely told he was a brazillian international. 😉
Hahaha……………………….I like the Chelsea Blue comment in that link, Rico.
“35,000 + Chelsea Fans singing “Arsene Wenger we want you to stay” seems to infer that they would agree with Kane. 🙂 “
Not just him Ts, there’s been many.. As Adam said earlier, he’s signed as many rubbish players as he has good ones during his 20 years…
Embarrassing though Lc.
Is it possible to compare the dross Wenger has bought over the years….eg….Santos etc`…..against the players he constantly reminds us of that he nearly signed ?………………..a post about it with all names in two lists to compare would be easy for a woman of your talents Rico !……………..or you could ask Tsgh to do it instead with a pretty please ! 😆
Just imagine we did not buy all the dross and saved the money to just buy one of….Ronaldo…..Messi……..Bale( although he was only cheap at the time Spuds bought the self confessed Gooner….£7M according to wiki )….Maradona……..Pele………Stanley Mathews……….hahaha
Or you could write it Lc? Lol
I want a pint of what TruthSpeaker is on….
11.30
I wouldn’t want a sip Kev…. lol
I can see Arsenal dropping points vs Hull City
Two or all three?
I think it was a pint of Cava, Rico ?
Two I reckon Rico, but three is a strong possibility
ha ha Kev……
I think zee mental strength will get USA point…
Morning all.
Some goods, clean, healthy debate overnight-well done, people.
Thoroughly enjoyed that read.
Is Gazidis still at the club?
Who’d have guessed 🙂
I didn`t see that TruthSpeaker comment earlier, Kev !……………………….I must have left early and missed it like them fans who left early against Burnley and missed the penalty ! 🙂
It`s a great and interesting read untill I got to this bit……………………….” it would be like having a threesome with 2 gorgeous girls… nice… but meaningless. “…………………………..I then knew he was one of the fans that left early against Burnley and missed the penalty !…………..he did however get home earlier than expected and found his wife in bed with her sister and his best mate !…………………dont ever leave a game early !…………..wait `till the fat bastard blows the final whistle…………. it`s meaningless otherwise !
😆
I reckon we will slaughter The Tigers with an EPL record score and send them to Hull and back !
Evening Rico and the House.
This evening Our U23 side are away to League leaders Everton with just 10 mins to kick off
the game do’s not warrent a mention by anyone.
Is Sanogo playing Rick ?
Evening Rick. I forget about the under 23’s…
Is Sanogo even fit?
Nope !……………..just checked Arsenal Twitter……………………apparently he`s on a ranch in America dressed up in a pantomine Buffalo costume !………………not sure who`s at the front or back ……….Yaya or Stan…………..
https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/828636562405654530
Just see under Coyle`s goal on that link, the Hazard goal !………….first time I`ve seen it and all I could think of was that Peter Storey would have taken him out !
Can’t understand why no-one didn’t. Would have only been a yellow and worth it…
Same for the Giggs goal back a few years…
The consolidation is that if we played Chelsea at 5 pm we will beat them ?
Rico every one forgets about them.
Goalless after 35 mins.
Tonights team
Martinez Jenkinson Sheaf Olowu Bramall Nelson Dasiver Mourgass Dragomar Willock Malan
Re Hazards Goal where was our Left back did we have one?
Evening Rick
I bet we wouldn’t have Ts. This Arsenal team under Wenger is ill prepared regardless of what time they play…
Is the match on the player Rick?
Rick, Nacho is getting caught out week in, week out, these days.
Why Gibbs isnt playing remains a mystery.
Evening Ginge
H/T 0-0
Everton are the leading scores in the league and beat us 5-0 at Colney so this a
good performance so far.
W e have had 70% of posession in the first Half.
No Rico its not on the player they don’t show any of our games live.
Sorry I have not posted for awhile Rico I have miss placed my tin hat,
Must say your posts have been very good and there has been some good comments.
Stuttgart Vs Fortuna on BT Sport 1….2-0 Stuttgart at HT and Asano ( remember him ?….our loanee ) is playing well…twists and turns and is a handfull ….and looks like he works his socks off !
Scott- Nacho is getting caught out because he is getting the Arshavin treatment
Its like Cliche all over again unfortunately
Thanks Rick, no worries… tin hat lol
We’ve got an under 23 side……that’s news to me !
Don’t know whether it’s true but rumour is where-ever you are in the country your never more than 25 metres from an Arsenal loanee.
Night all..
1-0 to Everton 86 mi
Considering so many on loan this was a good performance.
Rico I have seen all the highlights of the games I missed while I was on holiday
and was going to post some veiws and still intend to.
How ever thats all for now.good night to you all.
Ginge, fair call, but his lack of pace also leaves him very exposed.
We’ve all said it-Gibbs in front of Nacho is worth a try, on occasions.
Rick, did you just back up my 8.58 lol.
Tsgh, on a serious note, take no notice of rico, their is a real greatness in Arsene that only a few of us can appreciate, I feel your pain mate.
Scott says:
“GG, has he already been offered a new contract, and will he sign it?
Oh the joys hahaha.”
I hear you, but in my mind I have Arsene Wenger now just keeping the managers seat warm for his successor. He cannot take The Club to the next level, but in a transition period, he can be a big help creating a smooth transition. He owes The Club & Fans that!!!
Gnarley, if it was a bahahaha then I’d really be worried lol.
GG, if he’s offered a new contract, then that really says it all about the true problem at the club, imo.
…….as for that Yank Stan the Krank, he should just go, end of!!
Agreed.
TS you will appreciate this….. apparently there is increase pressure on Jose if he doesn’t make the top 4 because MU will lose £85m. Adidas will be due 30% discount whenever they don’t make the CL, that’s about 23m, 60m in TV money and about 3m in VIP ticket packages. Well I guess that’s the reason SK values AW and pays him 9m per year as a businessman rather than a manager lol.
Afternoon rico1 & all
Well it sounds like another 2 years of the same, “but wait a moment” if the old fella is involved with a smooth transition within that time, he could leave a good squad for his successor.
Morning all.
If he is to stay, they should let everyone know asap, and if the plan is to ease someone in to the job, then tell us that, as well.
I’m sure If fans knew what the plans were, they’d ease up and get behind the man.
Come on Scott, the owner, board and manager with a plan…. get real…! They all fucking clueless.
Hiya Wath!!!!
Yes, we most certainly are adrift, with no paddle, an no rudder, yet still so close to being one hell of a club.
Been so close yet so far for years now…………. We’re not a football club with any ambition what so ever just a business that’s intent on financial success yet they cannot see the wood for the tree’s.
All to gutless to either make a decision or to walk away when the cash cow keeps giving..!
Wath- so you managed to get away from your money counting machine for 2 minutes? lol
I see GG is costing you a bit more due to the pound of the pound. My suggestion is to move to the Nigerian or Chinese version. 😉
Micko- you keep instigating. When you see an African man with no shoes on next to you in your favourite Greenwich pub you know he was sent by me… lol
Obi- interesting bit of info’ re’ yanited; I missed that bit from my footie leaks
Good morning all btw
How did I miss TruthSpeaker post at 11:30am… that is the truth right there. 🙂
You need to come back buddy…
I’ve supplemented the GG with Koniks tail Ts…. awesome vodka…!
Least in numbs me briefly from having to see the shit we are getting served up by our club.
As Lee say’s “rinse and repeat… rinse and repeat” and as Mr John Lydon said… There once used to be a football club over there………..
ha ha ha Wath…
I am trying to get my crystal ball to tell me if AW will leave before Drumpf’s time in the white house comes to an end but Rico is interferencing with the vibes I am getting from the other side. 😉
I need truthspeaker back for a debate… 😉
interfering*
The latest craze is why AW paid 35m euros for xhaka when he could have paid £30m for kante…
Another proof business of football is that:-
According to footie leaks Leicester wanted the money straight away whilst we are paying mon’bach over 3 years depending on appears and conditions being met; not forgetting Kante is on £100k per week whilst xhaka is on less than £80k
R.I.P Joost van der Westhuizen
Ts you know when it comes to economics and being tight fisted it’s the only thing we are at the top of the league in…. Again a prime example of lack of ambition yet many sub standard players are paid way to much due to the socialist wage structure of Wenger and not wanting to upset the apple cart.
One thing that is becoming apparent and despite the social media moaning ad groaning Arsenal fans in general are as big a bunch of pussies as the tossers on the pitch, instead of moaning take it to the ground ad do something about it….! The problem then is that despite what’s going on Wenger still has support and hence the in fighting and no one common goal for the betterment of the Club.
The Mickeys had the two annoying yank owners and they got off their arses and got rid of them… We just moan moan moan…! We are as apathetic as the club is if we honest about it.
Morning George, morning all…
Micko, I never knew you cared for him so much… 😉
Ts, Wenger confirmed he went for Kante, but my guess is the player chose Chelsea for a higher wage and probably saw they were more ambitious…
He should have tried harder for him before he moved to the PL imo..
Wath- that is exactly me point about our fans.
There is no point moaning after a lose; if we want him out let us demonstrate win or lose for the remaining 14 games… then we might get the joint statement with ..’ AW and Arsenal mutually agreeing to…
I am sure there are those who still like AW; I admit I like AW but I think keeping him there is making the club stale especially after the way the season has panned out so far…
seeing that from social media at least that the dissenters are the majority surely its time to act now…
I still hold the view that one poster or a few hundred just makes AW more determined to show that people are wrong and that he also cares after a lose…
But I guess with no protests allowed in ground and it will be nearly impossible to get that point across.
John Cross- claims we are latte sippers.
our fans have the highest average wages of every EPL club; I bet it would have been higher if they have added Scott’s AUS Dollars to the equation. 🙂
Morning Rico. I would anticipate a somber mood at the next home game. The atmosphere has been dour for a good while now with only the odd cheer to support the team. I have heard no ‘Only one Arsene Wenger’ chants for a long, long time. I think it is apparent where the sentiments of the crowd lie and I don’t like fighting among the home fans myself although that is what we are seeing. It’s inconceivable to me that the board are blind to the dissatisfaction of the fans.
Morning Adam.
With Hull City arriving hot off a 2-0 victory at Anfield, I’d imagine many would fear an upset…
Rico. That could certainly happen.
Ginge, you do know I’m married, right?
What money 🙂 🙂
Adam/Rico, there will be no “we will be winning” from me this time lol
I wouldn’t be at all surprised Adam.
Good Scott, the penny has finally dropped… 😉
Wenger, I believe has one outstanding ambition, and that is to break Ferguson’s longevity at his club. 25 years he was in charge, Wenger has managed only 20/21 so, and I’m no mathematician bit, I reckon we should settle for another 4 years of his tenure. I mean he’ll only be 71 by that stage. It’s not an age thing but he has to beat old red nose at something! Tenure is his only opportunity left to him.
So, his new 2 year contract will have an option for at least another 2 years!
We are blessed, aren’t we?
Morning all. Dull and cloudy here, dry and not too cold, yet!
Nah, Rico, but some of our players have shut up shop for the season, I fear.
If that is his aim Wavy, how selfish would that be… At least Fergie knew when it was time to quit and had the determination to leave with a PL trophy…
New post up now..