Morning all,
Just after we defeated Manchester City in the final pre-season friendly, Arsene Wenger gave an interview to the newspapers – John Cross was there and to read a full transcript, read HERE.
Here are few questions and answers which stood out:
Q: Does it annoy you that, even before the season starts, we are talking about a crisis?
AW: It is a bit frustrating. We just beat Man City 3-1, imagine we had lost. What can I do about it? What is important, I can only influence what we do on the football pitch.
Q: It’s all linked to transfers. Everyone judges you on transfers at the moment rather than what you do on the pitch.
AW: Yeah but that’s down to people it’s not down to me. Because if you analyse our players, if you look at the quality of our players, we have good players on the football pitch. Eleven internationals will start tomorrow and we have internationals on the bench. That is for me what counts.
Q: Has this summer been made more difficult because of the fact that the fans are aware of the club’s new financial firepower and therefore that raises their expectations for you to spend?
AW: Of course. The expectation level is high that we bring in big names. It is always strange because for example people praise Dortmund for going to the Champions League final. But the most expensive transfer of Dortmund is not very impressive. We have to be successful on the football pitch, that’s what counts.
Q: Within this football club, is the set-up that you are the guy who has the final say on transfers? Are you the one who has the final say on how much should be spent on a signing? Are you the guy with final say on the fee?
AW (smiling): I have of course a big influence on that.
Q: But going back, is the perception that you are the one who is reluctant to spend while the board want you to spend unfair?
AW: Of course it’s unfair. Why should I resist?
Q: Is there a lack of understanding between you then?
AW: I just defend the idea that you spend the money you have and not the money you don’t have. For years I did that. Today we have more so we can spend more. It’s as simple as that.
Where were those internationals on the bench on Saturday? I saw just two, unless Jenkinson counts.
Is he having a dig at Ivan Gazidis for telling us all that finally, we were about to have a good summer of transfers? Has he actually refused to play ball because he didn’t like us all to know?
Finally, why the heck is the manager of any club allowed to have any say on how much we pay for a player or how much we pay them?
Why would any manager really care about how much we pay for a player or how much we pay him?
His job description should not include that and more to the point, why would he want to be involved it all of that?
Most managers just want to manage, not have all the other stuff thrown their way.
I’m sure that players who are thinking about signing for us would want to meet the man who could become his new manager but not to talk about money or contract issues, all that player wants to know is how he will fit in, how he’ll be played and for how long each week.
The rest is surely agreed before he even considers signing on the dotted line…..
Lastly, if Wenger is truthing when he says he has no reason not to spend the money he now has available, why hasn’t he done so?
He now says that he can’y buy players who would help us on Wednesday, well we all know that but this transfer window opened on the 1st July, FIFTY days ago, not this morning.
He’s had plenty of time…….
That’s it for another day…..
Him and Ivan the terrible out!
Hi, the manager who we pay a lot of money too for his football experience should indeed have a say in how much is paid and the players. But he should not have the final say his valuation should be a framework for the club to work inside and then they should decide it paying 10% for example more on a transfer or on wages is right.
The problem we have is that the board have abdicated responsibility at the club and if AW does have the final say then that is their fault, if he does not and we do not pay then again that is their fault.
The manager should work in harmony with the board to set the clubs philosophy but this should not be dictated and an experienced person should be there so that he can give the board a second opinion or for AW to bounce ideas of. At the moment this is not looking like happening and the stagnation of the club is worrying.
Good post Lady. Glad you put that up. Now why dont the AST ram down his answers down his and IG’s throats.
I will copy my comment in the previous post and add to it…….
I told Woody…………….
Benteke would have jumped at the chance to be with us.
Likewise Williams. Even Cesar. Gustavo would have come for sure.
That is already 4 players and would not have taken much of the budget. Benteke would have come at 10 million, Cesar 1 million, Williams 10 million and Gustavo at 14. That would have been a total of 35million. Half the budget on 4 players who would have surely beefed us up and given everyone a lift.
Even Fellaini would have joined as would have Juanfran or Gamez (both RB)
That would have taken up most of our budget and fans would have accepted Sanogo greatly as an understudy to Giroud.
yes no Shrek or Cesc, but the above 6 players would have bolstered our squad and set it up for the entire EPL season.
Sanogo is being criticised without even kicking a ball.
AW’s idea is to drain the club from those we buy and fill the team with the likes of those bred inside the club. While we agree on the ideal, Akpom, Hayden, etc would be of great benefit to the team, we do not have the experience Benteke would have given us. Yes it would have lifted even Giroud’s performances though I have been happy with him so far. Do we have to rely on Sanogo, Akpom, Hayden, Bellerin, etc?
It is ideal. But we live in a real world.
Why should he V10? His job is to manage, not worry about the bank balance.
For all these mention, who are to blame, employee or employer?
this is big question,
Thanks devil. Hopefully anyone who thinks AW isn’t given any money is reading…
Arsenal are reportedly lining up a £20m bid for Juventus midfielder Paul Pogba as Arsene Wenger looks to urgently strengthen his Gunners squad
On yesterday’s showing against Lazio, Juventus will want astronomical money for him. He was world class.
I was always under the assumption that since the debacle at the end of George Grahams tenure the manager tells the club who he wants and then they take over so that could never happen again.My feeling is that Wenger is working under too many restrictions.As much as I admire his loyalty it’s time for him to speak out,if he’s being held back he should say so.I took my youngest son to the Emirates trophy and told him that when I was younger I never imagined that I would be sitting in a stadium like this watching players of this calibre wearing an Arsenal shirt,that is all down to Wenger.His man management and club development skills are second to none,have those skills disappeared over recent years,I think not,Arsenal fans deserve the truth!
One thing I notice when I am called out of the workshop to cover for my boss to deal with clients, organize deliveries, make estimates, take phone calls, is that I am distracted from the basic stuff, the work on the bench. I lose a bit of focus and it takes more time to get back into it and the overall job gets a bit more costly and yet the standard probably, if anything, goes down a bit.
Now if that happens in a tiny company of three people like ours…….
Morning all.
What the heck is happening at arsenal? If Wenger isn’t objecting and we have the money, why is the squad so thin?
Morning all again,
Wow, …. I guess it is going to be another day of ‘reality ‘….
But I have not heard any former board member blame AW for our clubs lack of spending…
People who are close to DD,AW and othe board memebers have come out releasing rumours that the £70M allegedly available was far off the mark.
What is being reported by people who may be in the know is that AW have between £40M and £45M available to him now but he would have between £25M and £30M after he qualifiers for the CL.
What is being said is that the plan was to use the £40M or so available on a marquee signing before the transfer window opened. AW and the board initially agreed that they would try to spend the £40M+ available on Bender and Hig. But things changed drastically when Guardiola approached Arsenal about the Suarez deal and so they decided to put all their eggs in one basket and buy Suarez.
They expected to use the guaranteed funds that would be available after the CL qualification on 2 or 3 squad players. But because the Suarez clause was not water tight they have to get back to the drawing board.
Actually Casanova says we talked to Capoue but Capoue thought he would have more chances with the scums especially with Parker moving…
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I am sure someone will come hailing insult and abuse at me in a moment but that individual does not even have cyber balls to call names… pathetic.
If a team full of internationals is all we need we could just by San Marino’s team, wouldn’t cost too much, even Arsene might agree to their fees 😉
I agree Rico he should not dictate the price but if you are paying some one £140,000 a week for their expertise on players his opinion should be taken into account, but only as a guideline/starting point.
The problem we have is not the manager or the board but the system that is used inside the club, if we bring in a new manager with things as they stand now will we be better off? Probably in the short term but to consistently compete at the top we need more than short term thinking.
Even with the increased financial capability at the club we still cannot pay what the benefactor clubs can so we must work optimally to make the most of what we have and we can all agree this is not the situation we are in now.
There needs to be a clearly defined structure where the responsibilities are laid out, then and only then can the board have final control over the club which in the end is their job.
If by doing this the manager decides he does not want to continue then fine we have time to find a new manager who can come in to a club in control of how it acts and he can concentrate on his job which is the team.
It’s interesting that there are some very very good articles being very well written and very well put across on what’s going on at the club at the moment. Yes a few have gone ballistic of course but for the most part nearly everyone saw this coming and agree it’s an escalation of mismanagement and squad neglect over the last 5 seasons culminating in a shocking non existent transfer window so far in which we now have to listen to Wenger saying the negativity is the fans fault…! Laughable in the extreme although it’s just not funny at all.
I swear, some of you are the biggest idiots ever. It’s funny how Wenger is allowed to manage Arsenal and yet you are stuck here, commenting. It’s not that easy. Benteke at 10M, you should be our main negotiator, devilgunner.
The way I see this interview, especially in some parts is that even though Wenger has a big say, he does still have to convince the board. Check out Lady Bracewell-Smith’s interview for more fun. And if you still think that you’re better for that job, please email someone at Arsenal.
Devil I understand your point, but I’m not sure your valuations are that accurate. I couldn’t see Benteke coming for 10m – the spuds and co would have been after him so the price instantly goes up.
But I agree with the general point and I guess that was also the point I was trying to make.
Bringing players who are good enough for Arsenal, but not in the top level shouldn’t be and isn’t a difficult task.
I guess my point was that if the club made this move it would show the top level players that we are trying to move in the right direction.
The thing that annoys me most out of all of this is that the club don’t seem to have any understanding about how we look to other clubs and players around the world. We’re fast becoming a laughing stock and that won’t help attract any players.
I’ve given up talking about football to my mates (non Arsenal fans), because I’m tired of making excuses for our football club.
Something has to happen for this to stop. I’m starting to wish that clubs in England were run like they are in Spain where fans have a huge say in what goes on and the person that gets elected can’t wait to spend big bucks.
There is no doubt in my mind that Wenger is one of the best football managers in the world, but sadly he doesn’t give himself the best squad to manage.
You give the teams we’ve had to Fergie, Mourinho or anyone else and they best they could have done in the past few years is 3rd/4th IF THAT. I don’t think anyone can argue against that, it’s just the blindness of the man when it comes to buying players.
Ts, can’t see how those figures of your are in any way correct when it’s in black and white there are funds of way in excess of 70 million to spend.
Maybe your info is from someone who is in on the theory that Stan is keeping all the liquid assets as he’s about to sell up and the more cash in the biz the more he can ask for his shares…?
TS you’re comment makes sense that we spend a certain amount before the CL qualifier and dependant on result more after that. But the signings before the CL qualifier should have been in defence and midfield not striker as that is where we needed improvement and given our injury record especially in midfield (Rosicky, Wiltshere) this is where we needed to strengthen along with defence given Vermaleens injury and the loaning out of players (Djorou, Michel)
V10, I think a lot of the problem “up top” is that Wenger has Stans ear… The board cannot run the club properly as they run the club for Stan… IG works for Stan and Stan doesn’t really give a shit does he. The board have no power to do what they want or to hold Wenger accountable as they are merely a mouthpiece for Stan and merely act on his instructions. There are no structures of power or accountability it seems to me just a yank over the other side of the pond who sits and misses the point entirely.
Line drawn, no more insulting each other directly or indirectly!!
Otherwise, a day in the bin will be the result!
That includes me!!
Worth a read if you have not done so already… Members letter to ivan.
http://www.blackscarfafc.co.uk/bsm-write-to-gazidis.html
This is one I wrote earlier, I see no reason why I shouldn’t re-post it…………
Wavy says:
August 19, 2013 at 9:55 am
It seems to me that Wenger got his shopping trolley out and took it to Harrods but was only prepared to pay Aldi prices, but he doesn’t like Aldi products! So he left his trolley in the middle of the aisle and walked away, leaving the top, top, top products on the shelf. When he went back to the shop he found all the products of his desire had been bought by other shoppers. Now he has to go to Aldi and see what’s left on their shelves. Not a lot I think!
Bring back George Swindin, even he had more awareness than Wenger and the BoD that support him, or themselves so richly.
This is not a glitch, this is a major disaster.
We need a new David Dein, not a new Patrick Viera! He would have never let the club get into this state 1 game into the season. Wenger should change his career, I think stand up comedian is more suitable!
Disaster is how our season could pan out. Forget Saturday its gone. Yes we were not at the races and Wenger has to take blame.
More importantly is Wednesday game away in Turkey. Its not going to be easy and with the thread bare squad if we come back still in the tie I will be thankful.
Its important the next week see us triumph over Fenerbahce
and that we make the Champions League group stage. If not that 40m in the bank will disappear and there will be no new recruits.
Right now I dont care for Saturdays game with Fulham.
If I had my wish Ivan and Arsene would be gone and I would want Frank de Boer and Dennis Bergkamp leading our own revolution.
Give them resources and we will become European Giants
Good luck Arsenal for Wednesday fingers crossed and do us PROUD
Possibly WATH as I say I never claim to be itk but solely base my opinion purely on an ‘asset’ I use to handle a few years back.
When I said on here we paid a Rothchild serious funds (and Nat is not even into football at all) , someone insulted me on here but Nina has confirmed it nearly a year after I said it…
I am sure you are aware that we signed an agreement to have funds of up to 50% of our annual salary plus 4 years payment installments in store by 2016?
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AU-The real conflict seems to be between the supporters’ expectations and your vision for the Club and at the heart of this is the policy of so-called self-financing. The self-financing model was created to suit the major shareholders at the time, all of whom subsequently sold their shares.
As a consequence of this policy, which is dressed up as prudent financial planning, it is down to our manager, and not the shareholders, to have to deal with the Club’s tight finances, carry the burden of repaying the stadium debt by selling his best players and having to continue to find cheaper replacements. All of that, naturally, comes at the expense of performance on the pitch.
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People might say I am an AKB but even before we lost I was slating AW for tactics on this site…
Hi Ginge. You recall IG said he will bring some payments forward in order for us to been able to strengthen?
Is that directed at me TS?
Wavy, someone made a very valid point last week, it seems Wenger is in turmoil…. He wants to stick to his principles but the club now has huge revenues and cash available to buy players. Wenger is used to getting great deals he wants value and likes to haggle and hence the trolley dash sometimes pays off when u pay cash up front and players are bought for good prices BUT great great players are never ever sold on the cheap. These players have a price and that price must be paid and sometimes you have to even pay a premuim because they are stars who win you games yet Wenger cannot abide by those rules, it’s alien to him to have to deal in this way and so nothing happens and we now find ourselves in the current situation, it’s as if he is stuck in a time warp and just refuses to push the boat out to buy the super quality he goes on about.
Dee and Woody. 10 million would have been if we had signed him before he signed a new contract. That was the remainder of his contract. Benteke wanted to come to us and irrelevant of spuddies or someone else in for him. He would have left Villa.
As for calling me an idiot I just expressed an opinion Dee. I can call you many names under the sun but I am not willing to lower myself down to your level.
Arsene’s arrogance and myopia are now out of control.
For him to ask Buy who? suggests he has no targets, which is frightening. When our first squad is padded with injured juniors and deadwood like Bendtner and Park, alarm bells go off.
For any club, let alone one of Arsenal’s stature, to be in this position after a single game is negligent.
Then there’s his extortionate wages for bringing no success and having no accountability…
Then there’s the ticket prices fleecing the fans…
Then there’s promises not kept to prop up season ticket sales…
Then there’s the millions saved on wages not reinvested…
Then there’s our best players sold cheaply to our main rivals…
Then there’s the funds from those sales not reinvested…
Then there’s the ongoing injury crises that never improves…
Then there’s the lack of ambition with 4th being like a trophy…
Time for this deluded old man to go before the damage is irreparable. And a proper functioning CEO is also required, not a puppet.
rico, you are going to bin yourself?
I drew a line earlier Ts…
Lee, please leave it….
When we agreed a new deal with Emirates an Emirates spokesman said that that there were conditions on the club investing in the playing staff, so I think it’s about time they applied a bit of pressure, because their name is being attached to a complete farce at the moment.
Not something they would want I’m sure
Good morning HH, Ts i don’t agree mate, good try. lol
Ts, the money paid by the club for the Stan takeover was on the books 2 years ago though, it wasn’t a secret but what it did bring up was WHY did the club pay for a takeover from someone else, why didn’t Stan pay…?
All those percentages are thrown around as an on going basis Ts, there is also the one that 70% of players sales was to be re-invested in squad improvements, what people forget is Wenger spent most of that on new contracts for players and not on buying in new players.
Another issue I have with this round of transfers, or lack of them, is this; why wait until after the CL qualification round to do business? If youknow you are short of squad players you go out and ‘sell’ the would be hopefuls the dream. No these make weights may not be top, top, top players but they would be adequate, enough to help the club through the qual round. If, then a marquee player has been lined up post qualification, then go and sign them up. But for f..ks sake do not leave holes all around the pitch with players who are only half fit or too inexperienced to be of much use!
“We intend to get our business done early” MY ARSE!
The lies and the arrogance are breath taking.
I’d like to think I didn’t have to Ch, but some things I read on here drive me to distraction….
Just like the fan who suggested we ‘Kill Wenger’ – just how stupid is that…
The most annoying thing about this situation that Arsenal find themselves in isn’t that we lost a football match we probably should have won but the contempt in which the fans are being treated for suggesting this could have and should have been avoided.
Arsene Wenger saying he couldn’t go out and buy players 5 minutes before kick-off (or something to that ilk) is just patronising and disrespectful. It might be hard but other teams have managed in the past 2+ months.
The state of the team at the moment has come out of complete incompetance in the running of the club, not just this summer but for the past few years, and it’s about time we were told the truth abut what is going on at the club.
Might start by having a report into the players we have “actually” tried to sign this window and why we haven’t managed to sign any. Might give us an idea into who keeps f**king things up on that front… then work from there.
OK, rant over feel better now, even though I could gone on for hours i’m boring myself now, the same problems every year!!! 🙁
I agree Wavy – you can do the bulk of your business without.
I accept that some players may want to wait for us to qualify (if we do), but to say that you cannot do any business before is ludicrous.
Chelsea managed it all those years a go, City did the same before they were in and the spuds have done some good business as well. Liverpool have had a better go this year than in previous years, so why are they more attractive than us?
Exactly S’manz, does he think we are all idiots who fall for his silly disrespectful comments each day…?
I’ve moved on…
Morning all. Good post Rico. Do we have anyone actually fit to play on Wednesday?
No problem Rico 😉
Hi Dna, Ch hope you are well long time….
A lot of unfair abuse on twitter on Theo for his performance last saturday…
I didn’t think he was that bad but Walcott had zero shots on target, zero attempt in total allegdly.
His pass success rate of 90 per cent may sounds impressive – but it does not tell the whole story; the winger made just 10 passing attempts the entire game, completing nine.
While he did create one goalscoring opportunity with his nine passes, the one pass he failed to complete, was the one he attempted inside the opposition penalty box. Separately he made two attempted crosses, finding teammates with neither.
Was the defensive criticism of his game justified? He made zero tackles, zero interceptions, but did make one clearance.
For the tactical ‘buffs’ on here, some stats sites are reporting that we actually started the game with a 4-1-4-1 formation and moved to 4-2-3-1 when we conceded and then we brought on SC19…
Rico
I put up with it when we’re winning because it seems to be done in gest, with a wry smile, but lately it’s just disrespectful and arrogant… but it’s not his fault we’ll only be happy if every player he signs is the next Messi 😉 …
Just a couple will do 😉
One thing I do know tho – we need to pull together as a club and fans to make sure we do everything we can over the course of the next few weeks.
We need to be behind the team for every home game from here. One thing I do know is that it’s not the players fault that we are thin – I’m sure they are also pretty fed up with it.
People say all sorts of things behind a keyboard, rico, but right now, we all need an explanation about what is happening at our club.
… Maybe a Bergkamp or 2 … couple of Adams’…. yada, yada..;)
Thanks rocky and morning to you, about tem with the kids thrown in i think…
Fenerbache will be rubbing their hands together,…
I am well Ginge, thanks. Tis hard to see a player who didn’t do well on Saturday. They all gave their all, including Theo.
Don’t forget they lost at the weekend as well Rico.
Anyway – if we fear Fenerbache, then we may as well pack our bags and go home!
I am sure the fans will be behinds the players Woody, its the management who are the problem.
If they got behind the players and supported them with more resources, they’d be a lot happier too…
🙂 S’manz, more than a couple though, especially now that Arteta and Ox are out for months….
WATH, we all know Stan did not even pay for his shares to Nina until later last year… that is several years after agreeing to the deals to purchase his shares…
Rock is back. 🙂 🙂 🙂
S’manz we need between 4 to 5 good players and 2 top ones.
Woody, but have they got half a squad a the half kids??
And I am sure both Kos and Santi are missing because of bookings at the end of the last campaign…
Good morning.
This is just a cycle.
We lose, and the same comments are rolled put on cue.
If only we knew who was lying at the club, we could all offer up informed opinions, and that is exactly the problem……the bastards tells us nothing.
Still, fancy anyone blaming our players.
We should be looking for a high profile Director of football…
The club has not even recruited a director for the academy…
It seems we can only do one thing at a time at the club… maybe some ladies who can multi-task are needed at a high level…
Hi Rock…
Morning Dev.. All good?
This is all so frustrating. I take it we can’t contest Kozzer’s yellows? So we have BFG, the only other player we have who could have filled in decided to try and snap his own neck, so is out. Dried Pasta bones Gibbs is now out, and the only player who could have filled in for him tried to snap his own neck….. My sweet dick, this is an absolutre catastrophe. Our back line is going to be shocking.
Hi Scott, Ivan told us something, AW confirmed its true…
But still no signings….
I will support an Arsenal team every they run onto the pitch but I will still voice my opinion that we have the wrong man managing our team !
Hi Steve. I think most would agree.
Morning Ts
Ts, he didn’t even pay for the shares off DF til later as well,add to that he borrowed the funds off DBAG for the other shares and not a penny has come out his own pocket.
Karen Brady – Arsenal supporter as well… Get her in plus the ex vodaphone chief and the London Olympics fella who also both Arsenal and thats a powerful trio to add to the board BUT they need powers to run the club and make boardroom decisions NOT be puppets of the owner..!
Morning Scott… Mr. Kroenke has a controlling stake of the St. Louis Rams. The Colorado franchises, along with the Pepsi center, are now in the name of his son Josh, former University of Missouri basketball player and one time NBA home office exec. This was done in order to satisfy cross-ownership clauses related to NFL ownership that had previously prevented the Stan from becoming majority owner of the Rams.
On the field I will say that it is a worry that over the last 2 seasons we have had a better away record all round than at home… 😉
As I am also a fan of BVB 09 and I was at Westfalenstadion on 24th April, it is interesting to see how the BVB fans handle their label as a selling club even though they have more fans than FC Bavaria… maybe we can learn something from them…
what amazes is the arrogance and naivety of ALL involved at AFC who couldn’t foresee how it would pan out with the fans if it all went tits up early doors in the season. the fact that nobody thought that the fans would turn like they did on saturday if it started imploding. what fucking world are they living in?
I will support Arsenal come what may. But, I am very very disappointed with the way the fans are being treated. If the club fails to sign any good player this transfer window, the ticket prices should be cut by 30%. My gripe is, that the board and the manager should not take fans for granted.
WATH, I think Rico has called for Karen to be involved for a while…
She has been marginalised at WHU and I bet she will jump at that opportunity…
I bet you she can negotiate better than Fox and Dick… lol
I don’t blame the players I believe rightly or wrongly that the squad we have now has more honesty in its performance than previous years but is lacking the quality we had then. The issue we all have is the depth of the squad and that could have been addressed by bringing in two players at least at around the £15-20 million mark rather than faffing around with Suarez etc…
Kev’s buddy Boateng, Yennaris and Hayden will be involved in Turkey I bet.
I can’t understand why Meade was allowed to go… he was offered a contract but he was not guaranteed any playing time so I guess he made a good decision for himself…
Dev, If AW starts with a back 4 on wednesday, that is me done with him… unless we come back with a winning draw… 🙂
A back 3 of CJ25,BFG and Kosser should do…
We can then play Poldi as a wing back and NIco/Ramsey on the other side making it a back 5 if needed.
A midfield 3 of Hayden/Frimps (not match fit)/JW and TR07 will do… I then expect Theo to up his game for us…
Eisfield, Serge, Sanogo on the bench…
Spot on Steve imho.
I’m angry and confused, we are in such a mess right now
How the mighty has fallen
This just gives the critic more weapon to aim at us
Atm, this season is just about finishing as high as possible in the league
Our targets for this season haee reduced
but all could change if we get the right players
When AVB said we were in a downward spiral, we all laughed, now who’s having the last laugh??
We’ve really gone low for the past 3 years, but the love for the club has blinded us to agree to that.
The bosses need to do serious work to do
Thanx Ts, your hardly giving me a ringing endorsement then seeing as my dog could do a better job than Fox n Dick..!
😀 WATH… is that a pub in Millwall…
That would be “Dickwads” Ts…!
Fox and Dick are multi-linguist I keep hearing from IG… Djemba-djemba spoke 8 languages I bet he can convince Stan to employ him too….
I wonder how Fox a mere scout of the America’s managed to get a high profile role at Arsenal whilst spending half his time in America…
I guess he brought us Vela and Zelalem so his job is done… LOL
And the ex vodafone chap Ts, don’t forget him… 😉
DIdn’t we get rid of Boateng?
Aw was originally interested in hiring the guy from Rangers and Glen Reoder… at least they understood football.
He name is still on the website Rock…
Rico, the more Arsenal reps speak, the less i listen.
We still are no closer to the truth.
Stan…….are you out there??
Hiya Ginge.
It’s like those who own and manage the club are in a totally different another world.
Are they so blind to see what has become of our club??
Oh no, it’s all about money.
The ambitionless money driven board has given AW his aim of developing young talents which has clearly not been working for us, although it’s working for some clubs.
Even Giroud states we need signings
Giroud: “In my opinion, it’s necessary for the club to recruit another striker.” (Mercato)
Gibbs, Ramsey and Rosicky expected to be fit to travel to Fenerbahce tomorrow. Some good news…
I think I am Scott….
Players have been looking forward to signings all summer Gtid. Like us though, they have so far been disappointed…
Cheers Ts. I know it was in the paper a few weeks back saying we were selling him. Guess that never happened in the end
According to Mohamed Boufasi of RMC Sport Arsene Wenger told Lyon’s Clement Grenier that he was his priority as Arsenal tried to lure the playmaker away from France.
Arsenal and Arsene Wenger called Clement Grenier, Wenger said to Grenier: ‘You are my priority in terms of recruitment, you are very, very young and you can become a big player.’
‘He stayed in Lyon and accepted the extension. He has stayed on very good terms with Arsene Wenger because Wenger loves Clement Grenier.
‘Arsene Wenger made an offer for Grenier to Lyon and over 3 months Grenier thought about it.
‘The offer Arsenal made was no more than €15m.
No Syg since his trip to the sad house… hope he is ok.
Who does the negotiations?
Who ruins the negotiations?
Who runs the club?
Who is ruining the club?
We do not really know.
Scott the fact that we have to ask these questions means that the right people (the board) are not running the club, if they were then this would not be an issue. Right now the lunatics are in charge of the asylum.
AW does all according most people…
If we are to replace AW I want someone like Diego Simeone not Klopp… I watch a lot of BVB 09 to know he will be playing with no DM like AW does.
Klopp is now playing Sahin as the DM instead of Kehl… does that sound familiar?
Vernat, i keep saying it….we all lay blame where we choose to, but none of us know the facts.
I agree with you totally.
Gonge, if it is true Wenger wields this almighty power, i STILL do not blame hime, because he is picking up the slack for those shirking their own responsibilities.
If it not interersting that the scums have bought al the player we bid for in the past 18 months including Paulinho… we seem to do the scouting for others to improve their squad… 🙁
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/premierleague/article3477653.ece
Wenger shows Arsenal mean business with Paulinho bid.
Arsène Wenger demonstrated Arsenal still have plenty of ambition by making an offer of £9 million to sign Paulinho yesterday.
The Arsenal manager is hoping to make the Corinthians goalscoring midfielder his third significant signing this summer, after completing deals for Olivier Giroud and Lukas Podolski.
Sorry Ginge….
So we bid less than they wanted for Paulinho. Why does that sound familiar?
That is always my arguments Scott, but as a self professed AW’s no.2 fan, he ballsed up the tactics on saturday… everyone thought a midfield of JW and AR16 won’t work especially againsta counter attacking team like AV but…
SC19 was unfit and he should have brought on Poldi instead imho who is left footed to help on the LHS… how can he play 2 right footers on the LHS when you are drawing a game?
Morning Fans,
Perhaps CJ and Bellerin will get their chance on wednesday.
I’m glad to see Ramsey is fit, that means planting Frimp in front of the defence will work.
I’d drop Wilshere for this one and give Gnarby his time on the wing.
Eisfeld orand Wilshere can sub for Rosicky and Ramsey to rest for the game Saturday.
Wenger at a free spending club….imagine it.
There is enough snippets of info out there Scott to get a very very good idea of whats going on from people who have contacts and who have a little bit of inside info. Granted some info isn’t right but when sensible people make a comment then it’s normally not far from the truth. This isn’t a knee jerk reaction from most just a boiling over of whats been wrong for years.
Agreed Ginge.
He makes his share or errors, no doubt.
Not as many as most think though.
I have just tried to open a debate in the Denver Post with this innocuous post on the “” openforum@denverpost.com”
I wonder if they will print it and if so what reaction it will get.
With the Rapids having what would seem to be having a fairly good time at the moment it probably is not a good time to ask this question. However here goes :- How does
the average Football ( soccer ) fan view Stan and Josh Kroenke. Certainly from an English perspective a large and growing number of Arsenal supporters wish that we had never heard of them . Their seeming lack of interest in the club@s on field success which shows little or no ambition but pays lip service to pacify people as long as the profits continue to roll in. Since their arrival the club’s performances have gradually gone backwards and this year have left us with a squad of players that would struggle in the MLS.
I often come to your site to see if their is any reaction to them and would be interested to see how you lot feel about them.
He’s at a free spending club Scott… he is the one not spending…!
History is full of conspiracy theories but the truth can more often be described by the cock-up theory.
As I understand things when some of Board fell out with David Dein and he was finally sacked the fear was that Wenger would leave with him. The answer was to allow Wenger to take over Dein’s role as well as his own. At the time it suited both parties – Wenger notoriously likes to micro manage every aspect of the business and the Board were happy to hand more responsibility to a man who was considered then to be at the very top of the tree.
To cut a long story short, as a business management model it was never going to work and it hasn’t. Bringing in Gazidas has only clouded the issues not solved them. One day soon the Board is going to have to sort this out, as they had to with George Graham.
More importantly the clubs that have achieved their transfers have a Director of Football who is in charge of transfers and it is his responsibility to do the deals there is a clear chain of command which we do not have.
I left it open and vague enough to draw a reaction hopefully.
Wath, those snippets often contradict each other though.
Things do no sit at all well with me.
Something is most definitely wrong behind the scenes….i know that is stating the obvious.
Do they want Weger out?
Are they letting him appear to be the man making all the mistakes making fans hate him and want him out?
Are they too piss weak to make that call?
Is it the opposite….do they want him to stay and do their dirty work for them?
Who knows?
🙁 Rocky…
I think there is negotiation and then there is insulting someone’s intelligence and ego.
If we go to peckham or Camden market and we ask a trader the price of a leather jacket and the trader says £100 and you say £20 pounds the trader if he had pride will tell you to sod off… however if you offer him £45, both parties could agree on £60.
That is what happens when you have a posh boy who went to Oxbridge try to haggle and bargain… they insult peoples intelligence with idiotic bids…
Wath, why is it you wold believe him when he says that?
I mean, everyone says Wenger always lies, so why believe some things and not others?
According to Jeorge Bird, Boateng was released…
We do have Algerian defensive triallist Bensebaini, 18, who trained with the first team prior to Saturday.
You will remember that his first game in an Arsenal shirt was in the pre-season friendly at Luton….
Where Arsenal conceded seven (7) goals…,.
Potter, keep us informed 🙂
I forgot about Bellerin Brad… nice one.
That’s good news re the player Ts..
Scott, think you’ll find the board that we all moan about have zero power to do anything… they act on Stans behalf they are only there because Stan wants them there as the company must have a board… Wenger has Stans faith as he makes money and Stans knows fuck all about football…! That to me is the issue, we have IG who was only brought in on Wengers say so yet is supposed to be his boss, he isn’t his boss Stan is…! IG cannot tell Wenger what to do it’s as simple as that nor can the Board unless Stan tells them to act…! Will he do that…? not a chance not while he ove rthe pond dodging all the bullets.
Scott, Wenger is many things and stupid is not one of them, deluded in my view but thats just my opinion. He is in his own world and his words are self serving most of the time but again merely my view.
Ha ha ha Kev, I knew the name of Boateng will get you out of your ‘office’
Arsenal have signed 15 year old Swedish defender Kristopher Da Graca following a successful trial.
I think Jeorge corrected it… but you are right the Algeria Ramy Bensebaini who I assume speaks french has been training with the first team.
http://www.arsenal.com/academy/players/daniel-boateng
Potter, Stan Walmart and his goons will be hounding you out… 😀
We can shock the scums by bidding £30M for Damiao
Yeah Rico, I’m very disappointed.
I dunno what made me believe we’re gonna be seeing new faces before the start of the new season.
I still think we’d abe able to feature a good squad on wednesday, that’s if Gibbs and Sagna will feature
Does anyone know for sure about Kos being banned for wednesday match?
Strange TS, as there are LOADS of reports on the net saying we released him at the start of August!
WATH, imho I think it is a big misconception that AW brought in IG. Josh and IG have a crossed path in the MLS… the tactics Stan is using will make Mossad proud imo…
It is true AW interviewed IG but as I understand it IG had already given the board the go ahead to recruit IG due to his knowledge in the MLS… originally the plan was that IG will use his contacts to build our fanbase and commercial outlet in the US of A…
I’d rather we spent on Willian than Damiao
Seems as if Koscielny can play. He wil be travelling with the team for the game. As said above, TR07, KG and AR will be included with the team.
Telegraph certainly think he has gone! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/10249186/Premier-League-Transfer-Talk.html
Gtid, the squad is not bad, it is just suicidally unbalanced imho…
The issue is that we are in a world cup year and no player wants to come and play 2nd fiddle to Arteta and JW in midfield…
JC wants only a 4 year deal no no team wants to offer a 32 y.o that length of contract… NApoli and Fiorentina have all pulled out from such deals…
Capoue refused to join us because he knew he can’t play often… and AW is ‘honest’ in that he won’t lie to a player like Gustavo or Capoue by promising a place in the first XI just to get him to sign…
Trezequet and Cocu all failed to join us in 1999 and 2001 because AW could not guarantee a place for them in the team…
The argument can be that as a player you should have the confidence to believe you are good enough to win a place and stay in the team…
Ts, Scott give it a day ( time difference ) and see if there is any reaction , if so join in the fun.
Ts :- He can buy my business but not my silence.
Ts, as I understand it AW had to approve his appointment… he had already said no to 2 people that the club had tried to bring in…! He wasn’t solely responsible for the appointment sorry if I gave that impression but he most def had veto over any person getting the job.
Thanks Devil, conflicting reports have been going around…
Nipping off for a bit, Fido needs to stretch her legs…
Ts, I can’t even see Capoue playing regularly for Spurs. I think Sandro is better than him and will slot straight back in with Dembele / Holtby when fit.
That I believe WATH about his veto.
Is it true Piers Morgan interviewed for the role and turned it down because he wanted more than £1m a year?
I am with you totally Rocky re Sandro…
Gustavo will not play for Brazil if Sandro is fit imo…
Evening Standard: Arsenal considering £35m bid for Swansea duo Williams & Michu.
Not sure about that one Ts, think that’s more of a Morgon living legend bullshit story… that dick is a legend in his own mind only…!
That story came from Morgan and no one else… funny how it only came out years after it apparently happened..!
The vodaphone fella was def one Wenger said no 2…!
Williams is a yard dog I don’t want him… surely there is better than him out there… super super quality….??? Really…?
Do me a favour…!
Le Coq is not even getting into Freisburg team…
£25m for Michu…. Are they going to fuck us up the pooper at the same time as we shell that out?
Wath – I’d take Williams.
Imagine Williams and the BFG at the back against Chelsea ha ha ha… 6-1 at Yanited with Stepanovs comes to mind…
Williams isn’t the slowest of players. I reckon he’s be decent for us. Better then Verm anyway.
rockyrocastle07 at 12:35 pm: we have allowed ourselves to be targets for the con men I am afraid all because of our ineptness… that is why we should have gotten the squad together before going for a marquee signing not the other way round…
the glamour of hindsight I guess…
Ts, I’m actually talking about our first eleven for the match on wed.
Skysports saying we’ve gone back for Paul Pogba.
Why would he come to us now that we’re in a mess??
The guy just won another silverware with Juventus yesterday
You have one thing right re Williams, considering TV and Williams lead the stats for defenders errors leading to goals… 😀
I would take Chico but I doubt the swans will sell…
Rock, there are far better centre backs around than Williams I reckon and younger and for the same price..! Where is the next Vidic…. Germany has an abundance of decent centre backs and there are a few in Holland as well.
Oh well I am not buying but seems to me it’s gonna be a trolley dash and for every decent player we gonna get 2 very average ones…!
Gtid,We will offer him 70K/week at least… he is on 35k at Juve I hear….
And Podga says he wants to work with AW… the issue is will we pay £25M for a player JUve signed on a free?
Hi all.I needed some time to calm down after Saturday.I was sitting on the fence re:Wenger but now I wouldn’t mind if he left.I really would like him to succeed for all the hardwork after moving to the Emirates but it doesn’t seem like he is the man anymore.too bad the last thought of him will be filled with disappointments rather than the good times…hope am wrong but i can’t see a way back for him.
Ts, i thought Le Coq was injured in the first match.
Lets start with Sakho. He wants out of PSG and not this williams guy who had a mare time over the weekend
I’d take Williams just for booting the ball at RvP’s head last year.
I agree there are better CB’s out there. However, I doubt there are better CB’s that would actually want to come to us. Williams is cup tied for all Euro games, right?
KT – Agree with you there.
£25m for Michu? *Cough*
Add £10m to that and you get Jackson Martinez
Due to the lack of ergency Arsenal have missed out on so many targets this summer, suarez, higuin, bernard, gustavo, bender, the list goes on. I HAVE ALWAYS BACKED WENGER TO THE HILT TO ALL THE FANS, but i cant any more, we have let go or sold 17 players and brought in 1 WTF, we need 4 players in my opinion goalie, defender, midfielder and striker this is worring as it is a whole new spine and the league has started.
My choices would be SAKHO 10M (want to leave PSG), BENDER 25M, CESAR 3M, and ROONEY 35M. THATS 73M FOR A TITLE CHALLENGING TEAM, if its not over by the end of August.
sell bendtner 4m, . Problem is prices are now higher as we now NEED signings not just WANT them. i beg you from a die hard gooner please buy now not next week now before its too late.
Pogba isn’t leaving the Old lady.he is one of the most talented youngsters in the world playing at one of the biggest clubs in the world.he had a stormer against lazio yesterday by scoring.why would he leave…?
Emma – Kos had a mare. BFG had a mare.
Southampton just bought Osvaldo for 14.5M.
Wtf
whereas we’re turning a mid table club overnight..
The Arsenal I used to know is long gone
Arsene wenger have the most criticism why because he has the final say interms of transfer policie and wageses paid to player’s. Also the fualt of fans that buy emirate ticket. We as a fans, the only thing we have to do, is to discourage our youngonce not to join arsenalfc untill this matter is resulve, we’ve lost a lot of life out highpartention and frustration. Please share this advice to your youngonce in other to avoid more damage.
I just don’t get why we didn’t spunk more money to get Higuain. Thenm stump up 40+ for Suarez. If you are prepared to do that for the bitey racist, why not add a few more to the initial Higuain bid and get him?
The Swansea fans actually chanted ‘we thought you were dead’ to RVP on sat
funny
rocky – BFG should be arsenal’s 4th choice CB. Kos had one of those one of days. Arsene’s tactics was flawed. Playing Wilshere as a DM is suicidal. CB’s were offered no protection whatsoever
Gtid – it was a “life threatening” event, after all….
Know what you mean Emma, but maybe Williams had one of those days too. Every time I have seen him he has been sound enough.
and I respectfully disagree re BFG – I love that guy.
https://twitter.com/JamesOlley/status/369406772827537408
The only clubs that can prize away pogba from Turin are Barca,madrid and the oil clubs.no chance would he join us.
You know, I really need, or want, anybody telling me that everything is OK at the Arsenal, when you can patently see that the opposite is the case…
I was gonna add more, but frankly, I don’t see the point and cannot really be bothered…
Nothing is gonna change…
Change will only come when the management structure changes…
You can choose to believe that, or you can choose to think otherwise…
rocky – I guess everyone is entitle to his own opinion 😉
We need players for long term solutions not after 1/2yrs you starting thinking of getting a replacement. Amount quoted on Williams is just outrageous, why not go for sakho who is mobile, quicker and has intelligent positioning
Let’s just go and get Eto (still averaging 1 in 2 there) and Diara (nasty little twat but talented) from Anzi where they are transfer listed, De Rossi who wants out of Roma and then blow the rest on the best Centre half we can afford which would not be williams in my opinion
I only caught glimpses of the Chelsea game at the club house yesterday.
Is Juan Mata injured or was he on the bench?
Surely we can enquire there, I don’t see Maurinho been a fan.
*Don’t need*
allez – Change will only come when Kroenke leaves but I doubt that will be very soon. Kronke is not passionate about arsenal nor football. He is just a biz man who is only interested about making profit. Sacking of Wenger will not solve the current crisis neither will appointing another coach
Mata was unfit Brad.
Mata was unfit brad and unlike us they have the depth to cover him unlike us forcing santi to play despite him being knackered.
Did Cazorla actually get booed on Saturday? That ranty (and 100% correct) guy doing the rounds on Facebook seemed to think so
The problem of Booing is that it isn’t directional.Was it the team , the player , the manger , the board , the ref. Who knows other than the guy doing it.
Thanx for the info.
I think that’s unfair on Cazorla, like Laudrup said that Bony will be jet lagged from travelling to South America so must Cazorla also be then.
Yeah, massively unfair by Wenger to play him especially for 45 minutes. But then again, with a guy with history for bizarre and often inept sub choices, did you expect any different?
and more to the point, whyt the fuck are players taken so far away for a meaningless friendly 3 days before the start of the season? This shit has to stop
That’s weird, seems my name has changed.
Potter……….I gather that even the idiot who was doing the booing does not know himself. He might have been booing simply because others where booing.
Apparently we’ve bid for Yohan Cabaye!
https://twitter.com/GraemeBailey/status/369432989844787202
Perhaps England is in the bad books with FIFA.
I thought Newcastle wanted crazy money for Cabaye?
Bradlop – £2 is too much for Cabaye.
I don’t remember anyone booing Cazorla on Saturday.
I made a point earlier about booing fullstop. My view is that any booing has to wait until the end of the game, because it affects the players whoever it’s directed at.
Also, we get this situation where people think people everyone is booing at someone when it was someone else and others just boo for the hell of it.
I can’t recall any booing directed at the players this time round, but I do 100% believe that the players were affected.
I’m not saying we would have come from behind without the booing, but once that starts, along with the ‘Spend some fucking money’ chants, we go from having a slim chance to having no chance.
Whenever a team comes back momentum builds and the fans start believing it can happen.With the state of the stadium for the last 15-20 minutes on Saturday that was never going to happen.
Remember when we threw a lead away at Fulham in the last 5 minutes. You could sense it happening because of the crowd.
If the crowd were booing Fulham that day,we would have won or drawn.
https://twitter.com/skysports_bryan/status/369433237593931780
I don’t get the Cabaye bid – do we really need a central midfielder when we already have Arteta, Wilshere, Ramsey, Rosicky & Cazorla?
Surely we need a fucking striker and some fucking defenders!!!!
I feel like I’m going mad now – surely but surely they must have something lined up that is dependent on CL qualification.
No one can be this fucking inept.
Excuse the language – it’s been stewing for some time!
Woody, I agree. It doesn’t help anyone when the booing is going on during the game. Boo at half time as the players are coming off the pitch, if they have been obviously woeful. But booing when in play is seriously detrimental. Look what happened to Eboue. But that being said, Eboue was MUCH better when he sorted his head out. The penalty in the millionth minute against Liverpool aside, that is….
A guy here at work is a Toon season ticket holder. He is wetting his pants at the thought of us signing Cabaye. He has been saying for 6 months now that Cabaye will come to us. And to be fair to him, he has NEVER rated Cabaye.
Woody… You KNOW we can be that inept… That’s the annoying thing… Lessons are never learned by certain people
I just fear that the Spuds are going to tear us a new one.
Woody – we need a DM as much as we need a striker.
Bid was £12m for Cabaye. I don’t need to guess what will happen to that bid. Newcastle knows now we are desperate so expect * 2 of what arsenal bid
Cabaye would be an underwhelming signing there are better players who are actually for sale out there, Newcastle have said he is not for sale so we will have to go through the whole rigmarole of bid counter bid etc … more mediocrity is not what we need to sign
AAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
It’s all too much for me.
We spend the summer being linked to some big names and now we’re left with a player from a team who were in a relegation battle.
WTF????
Really?
And what does he offer that we don’t have,he’s certainly not the defensive midfield beast we need!
Afternoon all. Ginge, Dev, Rocky, Rico and all….
Embarrassing defeat on Saturday, but there are lot’s of “What if’s” in there… No excuses though – Villa were average, as were Arsenal – Rosisky and Wilshere – the only ones who deserved any praise…. and the former skied what was a straightforward chance and fluffed a one on one with the keeper.
Villa, they came to put the boot and elbows in and hit us on the break. They did their job. IF we would have had Joey Barton in the side, we would have never ever have lost this match. That is the reality of it.
A lot saw the referre in action on TV. You get a better reality check sat twenty-feet away from him. He was dire, and very, very one sided.
The plus side was that I thought I was part of a Guy Ritchie film: A load of cockneys calling the referee a “Facking Cant”…
So our trolley dash begins again
I thought we did very well getting rid of the dross in our team. Never new we are about to get ungraded dross back in
If we are reduced to premier league journey men to sign then Kevin Nolan from west ham can score a goal up for a scrap and brings some experience to the side. But surely we can do better than this where has the ambition gone from the club.
How has the mighty fallen. From Lars bender -> Luiz Gustavo -> Etienne Capoue -> Yohan Cabaye.
Beast in Midfield?
Dictionary: A cruel, coarse, filthy, or otherwise beastlike person.
Come on- There are too many supporters with social worker mentalities to want a beast playing for us. Really. Barton? Suarez?
The tallest player you’d ever get in the midfield is around 6ft4… Tops.
The heaviest is about 13st… Tops.
That’s at the top end. Most however are smaller and lighter.
There are no beasts.
I’d prefer a straightforward midfielder who is tactically astute, accountable and just does his job.
I know he is more money, but Fellaini is ideal for us! Loves sitting in front of the back 4, tough tackler, good in the air, threat on set pieces. Also a leader, which we desperately need.
I just don’t understand
Hi Syg,
Cabaye I will take… his arrival is a year over due imo…
He defends, scores goals and is french…lol
AndyT, Osman was the DM for Everton last weekend… MF was played box to box.
Emma, I think Cabaye is better than Capoue…
.. but not purely a DM I must add…
Finally, a line has been draw with all the Names calling. It about time for some decency.
At ;east Flamoney has not been signed YET…lol
SYG – when I say beast I mean someone who has a bit of attitude and will put a foot in. Stop things from happening – did you see how Agbonlahor was able to stroll through our defense.
Someone has to love stopping that from happening and all our midfielders like to play forward.
Beast does not mean the literal meaning. This is a term that people use when talking about a tough tackler in this position…
Fair enough Ts, but I think Cabaye is gash. We should be aiming much, much higher. Fellaini will never come to us. If AW won’t put a bid in when he has a low-ish release clause, what’s the chance of him ever paying more than that now?!
https://twitter.com/MiguelDelaney/status/369435165803544576
https://twitter.com/JamesOlley/status/369436671558696962
tsgh – We don’t have any choice do we? But I reckon newcastle won’t sell for less than £20m
I hear you Woody.
Gabriel Agbonlahor is an average player who was let walk through the midfield. It’s a hole that’s needed shoring up for years.
https://twitter.com/m_christenson/status/369445386751983616
Trolley dash …..
https://twitter.com/Sanderson/status/369447433098379264
Another fckng EXCLUSIVE on its way
https://twitter.com/wayneveysey/status/369447713063976960
https://twitter.com/johncrossmirror/status/369446014635102208
Ivan Gazidis have told the world we have money, so expect inflated prices henceforth. We’ve already messed up this transfer window big time. Expect a trolley dash soonest
When people say that Wenger is a reactionary manager; they aren’t wrong!
Begovic ought to be in there somewhere….
https://twitter.com/GFN_France/status/369449030373224448
https://twitter.com/GFN_France/status/369449388566802432
https://twitter.com/skysports_bryan/status/369449501204815874
What a mess this summer has been.from suarez/higuain to michu, Bender/Gustavo to Cabaye and Williams.they would just be bodies but WILL NOT lift the level of the squad.i’d rather play ramsey and jack to be honest.all those calls for patience to us fans…
If I were Arsene get rid of that ‘egostic’ Schesny to the bench and bring in Begovic. 13 clean sheets last season is no mean fit for a club that scrapped out of relegation last season.
These offers are pie in the sky and have no semblance of a plan what so ever… are they picking names out of a fucking hat for christ sake…? Ridiculous..!
KT – Wenger has too much power re: Transfer Fees.
He should just manage the team, and not be Director of Football or CEO
I don’t get it at all.
Wenger keeps saying that we will only buy players who are better than what we have.
Is Cabaye better than Ramsey, Wilshere and Arteta?
CAbaye is better than Podga though… imho…
Podga does not graft… against Ghana the Ghanaian 4’10 no.10 who was voted the 2nd best player behind Podga caused Podga and Kondogbia lots of problems…
I doubt juve will let pogba go.they would be mad to especially with Pirlo getting older.that is a lost course in my view.
I’m with you totally WATH….
Afternoon all, that trolley been filled yet??
https://twitter.com/Sanderson/status/369448177608302593
SYG – I agree with that.
He is one of the best managers in the league without question.
But his insistence on getting involved in transfers is wrong. He should be giving the board a list and let them do the rest – thats how it worked with David Dein.
It’s as if he doesn’t trust anyone else to do a proper job. If that’s the case GET SOMEONE IN WHO CAN!!!!
Preferabbly someone who knows football…ie NOT IVAN!
Woody …. About the same … The thing is we need adequate bodies when they get injured or rotated…
Matt Law hit the nail on the head on Saturday when he tweeted re: Frimpong being on the bench “A Championship (Old Div2) player at best”..
Cabaye is a good player bordering on very good, not average or below average. Good. I can do good. It is a start.
Begovic is one of the few players at a mid/lower end scale of the league that would actually really improve us.i doubt it would be much of a hustle getting him.am tired of hearing about szczesny’s potential all the time since he keeps costing us matches.bench him or loan him out.let him make mistakes elsewhere.
We all thought Arteta was finished when we bought him but he is now the most important player and ‘captain’ in the squad.
Cabaye walks into the French team each day.
NUFC struggeled last season because Cabaye was injured or depressed 😉
AT his age and with his experience he is a better option than Capoue, Kondogbia and Gustavo imho…
We need a squad and Cabaye may not be a huge improvement but he is a better option…
Bertie Mee delegated jobs, and expected the people doing those jobs to do them. Mee was all about delegation and trust. If they let him down, they moved on.
Seems as if it’s started then…
Cabaye 😮
If we are able to get Cabaye of 2 season ago… he was voted the 2nd/3rd best midfielder behind Yaya and Song…
Why would Pogba want to join arsenal? Except we are ready to pay above the odds(£30m) to get him and he is not what we need. Can Cabaye fill into the DM role, haven’t seen him played there(tiote). Kondogbia was underwhelming in the U20’s so I wouldn’t go there. There are still better DM’s out there
Cabaye is average and an underwhelming signing in my view.he wouldn’t be a step up to what we have.if he is coming as a squad player fine but not much else.
One that’ll not be coming here ….
https://twitter.com/GFN_France/status/369450923350691841
Rico’s worst nightmare… Cabaye. 😀
Now wait for a bid for Song…
Don’t be daft Emma if he buys Bergovic is stunts Chez’s potential… lol
Sell Chez buy Begovic, thought Chez would come right but the bloke def has an attitude for sure..!
Rather have Ben Arfa than Cabaye. Maybe AFC could sell the rights to Diaby v Ben Arfa 2
Emma/Syg can you check twitter about any Joshua Guilavogui rumours…
Diaby v Ben Arfa 2 MMA or boxing? lol
I thought bulling Cabaye up was a ruse, Ginge……
Translation: “Cabaye was brilliant a couple of seasons ago …. He was nearly as good as two Africans … one of whom is shit.”
If we gonna bring in players to make up the numbers then Barry is as good as anyone for a season or two…!
I was just gonna say all very quiet on Josuha G…!
https://twitter.com/OliPriceBates/status/369451181203931137
https://twitter.com/GFN_France/status/369452833319288832
Nothing re the Saint Ettiene guy, Emma …. yet
😀 Syg, I thought you had my back.lol
Honestly though, Cabaye is good. He is as good as Ramires imo. PSg wanted him… I have no problem at all with the bid.
This is the issue with the fans that is why we are where we are. We are snobs.
Like Kev said a few weeks back if AW had signed Mark Schwartzer it would be a downgrade but when Mauren-ho signs him it is a stroke of genius.
https://twitter.com/lee_ryder/status/369453425160761346
Song was not shite he was just not smart upstairs… lol
Shit show…..luckily we’ll be doing our business early doors according IG, phew imagine if we were leaving it late!
Arsene Winton….
Ginge – You ARE without doubt my favourite blogger on here.
£30M for Cabaye? That is why we can’t sign anyone…!
We as fans should not be fuelling this hysteria..
WATH, we approached St. Ettiene for Joshua G but I guess we are never aggressive enough..
Grenier like most players knew he won’t be playing often.
From the sound of stuff coming out of the north-east, Cabaye wants to come to London……
https://twitter.com/honigstein/status/369455694866440193
Man Yanited fans were calling for CAbaye ahead of Fellaini but AFC fans are being snobby… imo Cabaye is bother line world class. He will be our main man if he comes this way.
http://community.manutd.com/forums/p/259027/2320625.aspx
http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2011/12/09/how-good-is-yohan-cabaye/
I like both those Frenchies. I never thought of Cabaye as a DM but more of a box to box mid what Song did for us but on a better ball control level.
Kondogbia reminds me of a young Diaby/Yaya Toure and i wouldn’t mind him in the box to box role.
I never feel like Wenger wants to improve the squad, he’ll never buy a better player than the ones we have, only buys if the position is available or long term injury.
Begovic for me too Kt, at whatever cost …
Last summer he was in London looking for a house and all but Sissoko did not arrive at NUFC so the geordies did not sell…
Cabaye was creating a chance every 51 minutes in 2011/12 however improved that last season to a chance every 40 minutes. He also scored less goals in his first season as he only netted 4 times.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1311991-arsenal-transfer-rumors-gunners-must-sign-yohan-cabaye-to-replace-alex-song
Kt- Juve need money so if a good bid comes in they will accept. They have replacements for Podga in the squad.
Cabaye is a decent player, get Arsene.
WATH, what about your best buddy Yilmaz.?
You got me all creaming like goonster and he never came. He is a bit old though so maybe we won’t be after him…
Talking about goonster has anyone heard from him?
Rocky, £30M for Cabaye and Ben Arfa… not bad at all. We can then move Poldi to ST position…
BFG is Arsenal’s best centre-back, not 4th choice.
When he is missing, the centre of Arsenal’s defence is a shambles…
He is slow, of that there is no doubt, but he is also intelligent and reads the game better than any of our other defenders, he has to because of his lack of pace.
But if you have a lack of midfield cover in front of him, then he is gonna be exposed.
Therefore, if you sign a player like him, to do a specific job, you have to have def-mids in front of him. Do that, and there is no problem…
Wenger signed him, then doesn’t protect him, go figure???
That is the worst business in football… lol
Wayne Veysey @wayneveysey 4h
Liverpool offer Anzhi £25.6m for Willian PLUS sell-on clause in which they get 50% of profits of any future sale #LFC http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/08/19/4197449/liverpool-confident-of-beating-tottenham-to-willian-signing …
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No thank Fcuk.
Ts Juve will not even contemplate selling Pogba to us at all.he is one of the best if not the best midfield youngster out there.they are grooming him to replace pirlo eventually.also why would pogba want to join us?…we are a laughing stock at the moment.we have no appeal to him and it would be a step down.juve are serie A champs and were CL quarter finalists last year.he will not trade that for a 4th place trophy…not a chance.
£30 million 😆 😆 No chance…
Lee, if they are August, it’s early. Sept is late 😉
I hope newcastle ask for silly money for cabaye.we can really do better,we really can.
Alphonse Uganda
Am very sure Wenger must be seeing a witch Doctor somewhere and giving him things to smoke, he has become illussioned, the players at Arsenal now, apart from Rosicky and Koscienly deserved to be in Bayern 2nd Eleven. So why not spend the money, We pay the for tickets to watch football and support the team in all aspects. Does mr Wengers needs the Fans to demonstrate and show their Angers or? Why would he say that he has not gotten any better player on Earth, then let him to and get better players from other planets.
Kt, I think you are a bit harsh on Arsenal…
Finishing 4th in this league is still better than 2nd in Serie A. Juve are only Champions because of refs and lack of competitions…
Luca Marrone is the future imo…
They signed B-52.lol
Remember Pogba was no where near man u midfield with the pensioners Scholes and Giggs.
I’d prefer a higher line, quick CB’s and no DM’s.
I think our Full backs also struggle because they need to cover too much space on the flanks.
It’ll also solve that huge gap in the midfield.
Interesting if you look here
http://www.squawka.com/football-player-rankings#performance-score#player-stats#english-barclays-premier-league|season-2012/2013#all-teams#midfielder#16#43#0#0#90#18/08/2012#19/05/2013#season#1#all-matches#defense#desc
At least all the players here are graded on same statistics and you can see last season’s stats for defence and attack.
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https://twitter.com/wayneveysey/status/369463614349905920
Im not being harsh ts.its really sad how underrated the serie A is.not so long ago we played Udinese in the qualifiers and to be honest they deserved to go through since they were better than us.if we had faced napoli last season with Cavani i have no doubt they would’ve beaten us.Pogba will not take a step down to join us.as i’ve said earlier if he does he’ll go to barca/madrid/oil clubs.
Wayne Veysey – ex-journo with the Shropshire Star..
“Cat found up tree, owner devastated.” stated the headlines
Mrs Miggins aged 56 breathed a massive sigh of relief when Cuddles, Aged 4 was rescued by firemen from Oswestry Station after it got stuck in a tree …..
And now he’s doing World exclusives?
Also the serie A has done wonders for their national team who actually win or regularly challenge for international honours.just because it doesn’t have the glamour of the PL doesn’t mean its poor.
Man utd regret to this day letting pogba leave.if he were at the club he would be 1st choice alongside carrick right now.
Uchida voted best right back in the Bundesliga ahead of Philipp Lahm by the fans so might be a good signing, defensive stats for last season in premier league have Morgan Schneiderlin of southampton top of the league. 30 million for a 28 year old midfielder is a joke no re-sale value and he is not that good for that price you could shop in La Liga, Bundesliga for a much better player.
Uchida is a decent player.i would have no problem with him.
Ginge said “This is the issue with the fans that is why we are where we are. We are snobs.
Like Kev said a few weeks back if AW had signed Mark Schwartzer it would be a downgrade but when Mauren-ho signs him it is a stroke of genius.”
This is the issue with ‘WE’ fans; we’re not in the driver seat and we only give opinions. No one is mentioning Pogba as ManU misfit until AW signed him and he starts to misfire then every supporters will come out from under to state the fact that he was a misfit at ManU and AW went for him. What was he thinking…
Where do these people get their info from i wonder…
We had a decent and good DM in Song whom allow JW10 to thrives and grows plus he scored goals, yet some say he wasn’t good enough. And what did we do with the money we got from his sale… we put it in the bank for safe keeping.
Hi Ng… hope all is well?
Kt-I agree with your view on Seie A but how many of the Italian players are with a top 2 side… most of their players are Bolton and WHU rejects but they work hard…Diamanti, Derci is from Torino
Aquilaini is a liverpool reject;Gilardino plays for Genoa, Osvaldo is moving to Southampton… how many fans would prefer him to Suarez or Rooney?
Kt- how many teams beat BM last season?
We are not as bad as this weekend showed… we are just very unbalanced which makes as prone to defeats…
As I say Man U, and co only win 7 to 10% of games a season more than us that is 4 to 6 games to make us win something a season…
https://twitter.com/yorkshiregunner/status/369472938858131456
Ng – I’m not sure I agree there, most here have been calling for AW to sign Schwarzer for a couple of seasons at least..
Scott certainly has 😉
Afternoon all
Wait and see
Nothing more
Hi Ginge, all is well. I watched Pogba played yesterday and he was good. Will he make it with Arsenal? that the ten millions questions.
Waitrose trolleys don’t need a £1.00.
Aldi and Lidil do though….
The Villa result is what will go down in History.
What won’t be said is:
1. The referee was biased. And he was. I have no need to lie. The ref was dire.
2. Gibbs was nothing short of a pansy. A cut on the face and he goes off when we have no other left back available. Very, very gay.
3. We had a penalty against us which wasn’t a penalty.
4. We were down to 10 men, when we had one wrongfully sent off.
5. We had a valid shout for a penalty which was waved away.
Double season 2002. Similar score at home vs Newcastle. Up 1-0; had Parlour sent off – lost 1-3. Referee need protection – loads of disciplinary hearings afterwards.
I can’t understand why some fans will think spending £25M plus on 24 y.o L Bender who I rate highly is better business than Cabaye who has actually won something and won’t need 3 to 6 months to settle into this league…
Lars is not exclusively defensive either Simon Rolfes is actually the DM for Leverkussen; Sven is not a DM either Kehl was and now Sahin is for BVB 09.
We have to bare in mind how many German stars have actually made it big in this league… Hitzlsperger, Volz, Poldi, Ballack have all not really lived up to their expectations in this league…
Obviously Klinsmans, Lehaman were legends in north London but… majority fail to flourish…
French players have always done better from Cantona to even OG12 who most fans hate…
No need to sign Shwarzer as back up.
Sign Begovic as THE No. 1 keeper and let the two Poles duke it out for the scraps.
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Rico, I agree almost everyone on here wanted Mark the Auusie… but Ak asked a very valid question in my opinion.
For instance a lot of fans will turn their noses up on Barry but he would have sat in front of the back 4 for us on saturday… I know, our opinions don’t matter but its the logic behind the whole fanbase…
We slate OG12 but it is not his fault he is in this team as a main striker…
Rico. How many of us were questioning AW for buying Koss?
When we are not in the driver seat, it easy to second guess one’s opinions and what could have been, but when you reach the fork of the road without a GPS and took the wrong turn you on the passenger side said I told you to take the other road. Imagine he gets Shwarzer and he become a dross, what would we say?
£123.50 for Ticket vs Tottenham …..
Syg, I thought we all wanted JC? I think he had 5 good games last season, 1 was at the Erms…. but every goalie has a good game at the Erms… maybe its the ley lines 🙂
The AV goalie is usually pants but he was like Schmeichel on saturday…
That is steep Syg… I will save that for my annual trip to Stringfellows. lol
Syg, that’s what we are saying, Begovic would earn us many points a season..
Ebou made one major mistake against L’pool and every fans called for his head, rightful so. But, with our injuries list at the moment he could have been worth two birds. He could play RB, on the wing or midfield.
Begovic would save us 10-15 goals.
Suarez would add 10-15 goals.
No idea how that would equate in points; but it would be a plus rather than a minus.
Just had a look at the highlights of the game. Some need to question Gibbs’ positioning and attitude.
So would many other defensive minded players Ts.
For me there is a difference between signing an old keeper to allow younger ones to come through who look as if they will make it and signing a player who will just plug a hole (maybe if he stays fit) for a season.
There is no-one looking to take over in the box to box/DM position so we’d no doubt have to sign one next season. So why not sign one now, think of today and a few years ahead…
Had Perez been allowed to sign for us, Barry would be a good signing imho…
Did anyone watch France vs Belgium.. Kondogbia was a flop… his performance will make Syg consider Song and Frimpong world class.
He was also dire last night against Athletico 3-1 they lost..
Psg and Man city both bid for Cabaye before $hitty settled on Fernardinho…
Paulinho, and Dembele and ok but after one match against CP a newly promoted side can we honestly say they are world class.
Santos and Klerberson played for Brazil too.. lol
Eboue was shit. Song was shit.
One defeat and there are calls for them back……?
Wenger is only doing half a job. He’s done well by machine-gunning the dross – dross he bought, but he needs quality…. Good, very good and excellent…
I think Aneke will be playing for us in the immediate future… its a shame AW has allowed the pressure to build so much he can’t allow kids to come through…
Aneke was awesome yesterday against a very physical 2nd division team… I know it is not the same as the EPL but he has the stature and the brains at least Barca thought so…
Syg. No one is calling for them back… they gone. There is no way anyone will tell me that Jenkinson is better than Eboue. He is not world class but good squard player. Time like this he could have been more useful.
Arsenal players used to bow down to Kanu in training because he was so skillful
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Again Ts, had Aneke stayed, Barry wouldn’t have been a bad signing, but on his own, I really hope we don’t sign Barry…
Just my own view of course..
Just like I don’t think Eboue and Song were s**t – they weren’t right for us, but some other clubs were glad to sign them…. 😉
I’m clearly in a disagreeing mood 😉
😀 Rico…
I thought Song was ok not as good as he thought he was… Barca are not mugs to sign him. I won’t welcome him back though because of his attitude but as a footballer he gave us something imo…
Again that is the issue with our some of fans.. Barca signed Song to play 15 games max as a squad player… if we signed a player who played 15 games we will all call him deadwood.
Man U spent £18M on kagawa and he is a squad player whilst a pensioner Scholes played more…
Butner is a squad player at best… and he cost more than Monreal…
Is CF04 a better player than Kagawa? imo I would say No but I was used to this league whilst one coming from the Bundesliga has struggled…
Ng, with Eboue we may not have conceded 8 times at Old trafford but CJ is a bit better defensively now and eager to learn. Eboue could have been better than Cafu but he was more happy to have made it as a player tan improving imho…
Back in a bit
How many of us would come back and honestly said we’re wrong about Koss?? Song was among the the best DM in the EPL. Whether he was right or wrong for Arsenal the debate rolls on.
BUT, Joey Barton for god sake, please.
I can understand sometimes when AW supports/backs his players but he never has a balanced squad to push us on…
For instance the BFG is a starter for Germany but he is not rated by AFC fans. Boateng was 5th choice at $hitty but he is first choice at BM…
I think Kev has a point. BFG has positional sense and a good DM in front of him gives him the chance to re-arrange or recover his steps when marking the CF.
How many goals or assists MA08 had last season as compared to Song before he left?
If only we could get an owner whom love football things might have been different.
Ref Anthony Taylor dropped from next weekend fixtures after his abysmal performance at the Emirates
https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/369473897965428737
Best news since Saturday-Emma
Someone has to look at the this sky bet stuff… how can a TV channels streaming live tv also be involved in major bets?
https://twitter.com/GFN_France/status/369489869308841985
Syg, I think Gourchuff missed the proverbial bus when he signed for Lyon from AC Milan.. injuries did not help
Seems we’ve pressed the panic button, now we’re going for our long term targets.
Ts i agree that the team isn’t as bad as the weekend showed.balance is certainly an issue.I rewatched the game putting emotions aside and before everything fell apart in the 2nd half the pivot of ramsey/jack were not that bad.The aspect to which they struggled was during defensive transitions.
For example in the build up to the 1st penalty Ramsey pushed up to press a villa player but jack didn’t cover behind him early enough.as a result villa players drifted in behind the space ramsey had vacated and overloaded our middle.when jack realised this it was too late and he lunged in missing the tackle.
That is down to understanding between the 2 players.they have the potential to be very good together.before that happens we need to find another midfielder who is slightly more defensive that will allow the 2 to build that chemistry.I will not write them off after 2 games because they did some promising stuff that got buried under the frustration of the fans.
interesting analysis… Kt
I think AW should have instructed Ramsey to sit at least for this match… Ramsey played DM against Liverpool and Brighton last season and he was immense. In pre-season he did that when Arteta went off and Zelalem came on…
When Ramsey and Ox played 70 minutes together at NUFC on match day 38 there were no issue with Ben Arfa and co bombing forward…
Is it a matter of Ramsey trying too hard to show he can be as useful as team favourite JW… I think that is the issue.
I take it our inept negotiators have walked away from the Cabaye talks with their tail between their legs… NUFC want to sell, give them £20M and lets go… he could be the difference between CL and a win against Fulham and a loss and 0 points after 2 games played…
Berbatov will sit between our midfield and defence and play like Riquelme or Sammer even though he is shite most of the time…
No sign of Wenger in Aldi where I live…. 😉
ha ha ha
Jonathan @JonnyGabriel 3h
I’d accept an Arsenal bid for Yohan Cabaye of £15mn plus an admission Dennis Bergkamp’s turn on Nikos Dabizas was a fluke. No less.
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look closely, the man in the flat hat in the bargain/reduced section 😀
I heard he is waiting by the out of date skip…
I looked hard Ts, no sign, not even in the reduced section…
Arsenal’s problem is they have to play well to win games – United, Chelsea and City can win playing badly because they have mentally strong players who can withstand pressure. Arsenal don’t – they need to buy these sorts of players but Wenger shows little interest in doing so. In fact he does the opposite, looking to ship players out once they pass their 30th birthday.
Ts what Wenger is trying to do is quite difficult.
Last season when he played a pivot of Ramsey/Arteta the latter mainly sat with Ramsey playing box to box.this limited our attacking capabilities since teams knew Arteta was a non entity in attack.Ramsey had to support both attack and defence as a result.with that in place our defence was more stable as a result but our attack faltered.
With a rotating pivot of jack/ramsey wenger wants to have double pivot in defensive phase and when we attack either of the 2 holders can drive forward to offer support in attack adding that element of unpredictability.
On paper it sounds fantastic but it requires almost telepathic understanding especially during defensive transitions.Jack and ramsey always have to change roles throughout games and it will take time to build up that understanding to do it flawlessly.with arteta in there ramsey’s role is clearly defined.with jack however they’ll have to keep interchanging roles depending on the flow of the play.
It will take time but if it does work flawlessly it will be the next development in football that teams will try to adopt.its a tactic that is ahead of its time.
Should we be going for William…
Then I could get Will.I.AM on my shirt 😉
Not that I would give a penny to the thieving b’stards at the moment….
Scott Parker is going to Fulham, poor ‘Arry…
David Ornstein @bbcsport_david 17 Aug
Wenger to Sky: “I’m there to buy, if we find them we’ll do it. I’m not the only one working on that. It’s not my money, it’s money of club.”
Presume AW referring to Gazidis/Law, adds: “Ready to spend if find right players. We’re a team & focussed on that” Also “sorry” to fans
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Pivots? Have we signed Torville and Dean?? 😉
😀 swampies are something else…
We can do that….. But better ….
Carlos Vela buy back ??
Another classic goal by Wrighty. Talks absolute bollox but he was a cracking player.
How was the AW email this morning? lol
Finally Ts, he say’s it’s not his money, makes me wonder if he is the one doing the buying, well, when/if we do…
Glad to know that Sagna is alright after that horrible fall
Scotty man did a u-turn on arry. Arry must be so pi**ed
Micah richards has gone back to where he belongs ‘treatment table’ hamstring issues
ktr – u re right about Wilshere/Ramsey pivot. It will definitely take sometime for them to understand each other. If it finally comes off it will be brilliant but i think we will be out of the title race when that materializes. Arsene is at fault as he should have instructed Ramsey to sit. Don’t know what point both wants to prove. We know they are both good ball carriers
Rumours flying about saying we’ve made a bid for De Rossi
Really… De Rossi please don’t tease that will be a coup…
😆 AVB’s blue and white army
De rossi would be fantastic but i can’t see it.
Gtid – where are those stories please?
Jamie Carragher on Monday Night Football. Lots of people are going to find it difficult to understand his scouse accent. 😉 Jeordie accent cost cheryl cole her x-factor usa job 😉
Boo!! Hiya, rico.
How is everyone??
I’m no less angry now than I was after the match. Especially after seeing that blue and white army vid. 😀 The things you subject us to, ginge. 😉
u-21 squad… no Zalelem but Eisfield who looks ready :-
Arsenal Under-21s to play Stoke: Iliev, Moore, O’Connor, Boateng, Siemann, Olsson, Kamara, Eisfeld, Iwobi, Jeffrey, Akpom
https://twitter.com/OliPriceBates/status/369521076914487296
hippeee that is good news Syg…
I think he will be a perfect foil for Arteta
https://twitter.com/OliPriceBates/status/369521347602296832
Damian Martinez, Gedion Zelalem, Isaac Hayden and Serge Gnabry are all absent from Arsenal’s U21 game tonight, raising speculation that they will be in the squad for Wednesday’s game against Fenerbache.
You still at work Ginge?
I’m doing a piece on this Crossrail2. A planned £13BN north-south tube line linking Wimbledon and Seven Sisters…..
Given a choice between Di Rossi and Cabaye then it is Di Rossi every time
https://twitter.com/natm_mag/status/369522766921232385
No at home… I have colleagues working with Arup, Mott MacDonald and Atkins working on Crossrail 2… electrification and EMC
we can meet up for a drink if you are in London…
I am with you v1066, but De Rossi the name i.e of 3 or 4 years ago or De Rossi of AS Roma now and he is 30 y.o not feasible me think…
Ts i don’t think cabaye would be a foil for arteta.i think he is more of a replacement.a quicker version if you may.
Syg, definitely let me know when you are down here in advance and we can catch up… I will be working in Boscombe Down from next month so… 😉
Mott’s, Arup and Atkins all take the mag.. but at middle-management – director level … The mags more “pre-contract”-based than technical. Ideal for sourcing up and coming tunnel and geotechnical schemes..
kt- do you think AW is concerned about Mikel’s fitness and recovery for the future?
Boscombe Down for a month?
Very James Bond, Ginge.
You aren’t dropping into Afghanistan by any chance?
Good Evening Lady, Sir, Gentlemen and Ladies.
Cabaye??
while that is good news it is rather odd that AW is only interested in mobile midfielders who can play in multiple positions than a specialised one.
Since we operate with overlapping FBs we cannot refrain from a specialised DM who forms a triangle with the CBs when we are attacking and stops the other team breaking forward. That means we will have Cabaye, Aaron, Jack who can rotate between them. As has been said above…….that will take a long time to materialise. Needs lots of training and understanding.
And why start with midfield when the necessity is CB??
Maybe we will have three more by next Friday? I doubt it.
No buddy… I am an engineer now… just doing some consultancy
That place is not like that anymore.. 😉
De Rossi is a technical player who can complement our team. But the De Rossi of 5 years ago is different to the De Rossi of today. I doubt if he will fit in the EPL. It is too fast for him and also he gets injured more often.
Mr Dev, The Uchida bid tells us Sagna is the other CB option… he is better than most CB available at the moment… imho.
BM do not have a dedicated CB either…
I liked Sakho before his form last season but like most young franco African footballers… the quick money goes to their head.He has been replaced by a 5’10 19 y.o at Psg that should say something…
I doubt he would want to be 4th choice CB before a world cup.
https://twitter.com/samuelj29060/status/369526733793280001
But for Sagna to be a CB, AW must buy a RB. We cannot go for a whole season with Sagna alternating between CB and RB with only CJ as backup.
Uchida is good. I prefer JuanFran though. Him and Monreal are two of the best FBs in Spain.
Cabaye may be suffering from depression… sometimes it a preposition from birth but Cabaye is a tough boy. He takes no prisoners… He has very good engine too. I think Anita is more NUFC level as Cabaye has outgrown the geordies.I am glad he is not playing hopefully Ashley has been promised a kebab in London to release Cabaye… lol
Its funny he did not force the Psg move…
Syg do you remember we were discussing Cabaye on the last day of the January transfer window?
I do. You rated his engine – being the stat-man you are … LOL
With Juanfran we have a player of Sagna 2007 or Lauren in 2003 stature…
Was he a winger before, Dev?
Oh dear !!!
https://twitter.com/Sanderson/status/369528975267078145
https://twitter.com/Oddschanger/status/369528367499866112
https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david/status/369530691425275904
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Have you caught any 8-legged friends recently, Dev? 😉
It looks like Arsenal’s bid has unsettled Cabaye ….. Pardew is NOT a happy fckng camper
https://twitter.com/GraemeBailey/status/369530499036745728
Watch Manuel doing his comical AW tactical imitation tonight… the geordie counter attacking will be a joy…
What does he expect we put an initial bid we have not mentioned anything in public so what have we done wrong here? And who expects the first bid to be the highest anyway?
Looking good for signing No. 1
https://twitter.com/JacobsBen/status/369531761488711680
is it true arsenal have til 11pm on tuesday night to add 1 additional player to there champions league squad??
Pardew is the biggest AW hater on the planet. Cabaye has wanted to join Arsenal since he was 17 or 18 y.o.
Syg, he played with your buddy Gerv at Lille…
Navas is the captain of $hitty 😮
So did Eden Hazard …. We didn’t get him either !
Syg/Ts – You want to exchange emails?
And that is not be being funny, if you have plans to meet up, you might need them…
Seems as if Cabaye has told Pardew that he wants to go to AFC. The way that he has been left out of the squad and Pardew is bristling suggests that this is so.
Around two weeks ago I caught a four foot one mate. We had my inlaws and my parents around to eat it all.
Boo agag, missed you earlier. Neither am I…
Twitter is in overdrive re: Cabaye ….
re: Ginge – Rico – No probs – Top bloke.
https://twitter.com/SKYEPL/status/369534994781184000
If this goes pop too I may stop following football…
I know he is not the marquee signing we wanted but he works hard and at this age I bet this is the last chance for him to play in the CL…
Yes Rico… 😉
Oh dear…
“At the moment I can only say that I love this player.”- Pardew
That was Blanc I meant…
Hmmm, I hope NUFC don’t start a price war between us and Psg…
Ginge……there is a might of difference between ACCEPTABLE and ACCEPTED.
Maybe Pardew was pissed off because to him that offer is not acceptable while to the BOD at NUFC that was accepted.
Bumped into a bloke in town earlier looking for a rubbish tip, told him Arsenal to win the league !!!
tsgh, didn’t the Schwartzer bid fall through over a few sheckles, if nothing else at least we’re consistent.
Syg 4.06, you omitted Villa’s dodgey away kit from your list, think that had a big bearing on the result as well.
rico, Cabaye doesn’t really float my boat, does he drive your tractor ?
Kev, cheer up matey, it could be worse, you could wake up dead in the morning, who knows rico might even go double or quits with ya.
u-21’s 2-0 up Eisfield.
That means we will win tomorrow… 😉
The man is here… Hi Micko.
Evening Devil
Cabaye has to have told AP he wants to move, he’s been huge for them, why else would he leave him out I wonder…
Debuchy is having a ‘MARE…. lol
So is Mbiwa…
He looks like the EPL is a jump too high for him.
Hi Micko, no, I wouldn’t let him near my tractor – nor my Hunters….
After the 8th minute Pardew seems more pissed off………NUFC are 0-1 down
Dev, Ashley the Wonga will sell anything for a 6 figure sum…
Pardew should look at his 9 year contract… that was unacceptable too… lol
Pardew seems like someone who is going to fart out of his mouth and speak through shit creek cave while salivating through his ears and snorting through is willy.
I think that at the moment he is wishing he has AW’s head between his hands. Not that we do not agree with him but…….that is NOT ACCEPTABLE.
Rico might want to put Pardew in the bin. 😆
ts i think wenger will phase out arteta gradually.he loves that sort of player and thats what he has seen in cabaye.
City look fantastic.they remind me of our 07/08 team.
I won’t mind Arfa just to make Pardew do what Dev mentioned at 8:18.lol
Kt- their midfield shape looks a bit too good for my liking…
Tearing a muscle above 30 years will take longer to heal and it will also lessen the speed. Arteta is already on the slow side. With a muscle tear it will become slower. Its a pity because I like him a lot.
Shitty 2-0 up. Pardew’s tongue is hanging out of shit creek already.
To be fair, we do like making the odd derisory offer, tends to get us off on the wrong foot and is usually followed up with a war of words.
It is funny but those offers are indeed derisory… I guess that is what happens when your CEO says that 10 years ago £10M bought you a world class player…
If AFC offered 10 million that is enough. Between 8 to 10 million imo. But I feel we will be a bit screwed up and end up paying 12 to 14 million
that is my valuation regarding Cabaye.
I bet Pardew will prefer £20M with £7M upfront and £13M add-ons… lol
Their midfield shape is exactly the one we used in 07/08 with hleb,flamini,rosicky and fabregas.
Devil, 8-10 million wouldn’t buy his boots.
They paid £3M or £4M for him… what do they expect?.. its not like they gave the player a CL experience… pfff
We will settle on £15M with add-ons.
Joe Kinnears first piece of business. 😀 😀
Ts, what’s good bro.
John Cross- French international Cabaye, 27, would prefer to go to Paris Saint-Germain over Arsenal.
All good G…
Micko……….I told you we will get screwed and have to pay around 12 to 14. Well as Ginge said make that 15. But imo he is not worth more than 10………..he is not CL experienced, plus he has been injured, plus the remainder of his contract.
2-2 u-21’s Gatting phew… 😡
2-2 after being 2-0 up???
Cant the coaching set up teach defending or what???
This is something which makes me bloody angry.
Man City looks ok but nothing special…
https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david/status/369543682036219904
Just had my curry. Back to work.
18 goals conceded in 4 games… its a joke.
Boateng’s career has gone seriously South since Swindow and his injury…
The funny thing is he seems to have become better on the ball but his defending is… hmm
Joe Kinnear has possibly sanctioned the deal – interfering old boy…
Are you from Southall or Birmingham.. you love your curry.lol
tsgh, devil, we’re the best in the business when it comes to making profits on players, when you leave it this late in the window there’s a good chance your gonna get screwed with your pants on !
He’s probably asked for a tip in brown envelope too 🙂
I’m offski folks, have a good evening all. Staying up to watch Europe batter the Septics last night is taking it’s toll…
Night all, ’til tomorrow….
Micko especially with Blanc and Psg sniffing around…
I just hope the player prefers London to Paris… lol
Night Lady…
Red card for that?
Gd Night Lady.
,……….and all the others.
I am off to. See you all tomorrow after I spend the morning changing the filters and oil.
cu mates. Hope you have a lovely night.
Ts would u bring Samir Nasri back? Desperate times.lol
Seems as if Pardew will be apoplectic now. Taylor red carded.
He does seem as if he wants to kick Arsene’s arse.
off now
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Fan Riot! Wenger plans “panic-buying”
Not just UK journo’s that seek headlines
http://sportbild.bild.de/SPORT/fussball/international/2013/08/19/sorgen-bei-arsenal/fan-aufstand-wenger-plant-panik-kaeufe.html
Night Dev…
Nasri insulted the boared but I will personally take him back for footballing reasons only. A good cover for Theo…
Bild are normally better than that but…
Talking of lightweights, nite rico.
Night Micko… lightweight? lol
Cheeky Micko 😉
Night Devil and all, Gone now….
No Ginge.
South Yorkshire born and bred.
Moved out to the sticks fifteen years ago, but have never forgotten where I come from.
I love Asian food and culture. Very similar to Italians, but without the wine lol.
Fernandinho is an extraordinary player.
With him last year we could won something.
I don’t think that an initial £12 million offer for a 28 year old who made 26 appearances last season and whose pass completion rate is 80% is a derisory bid, it starts the process and if Newcastle want more than £18 million we should go somewhere else
i know Syg wa just teasing… lol
I don’t mind the odd curry. My Mrs loves currys’ though… maybe its a north east thingy…
The best curry I had was in Wales believe it all not… lol
https://twitter.com/GFN_France/status/369548164409208832
v1066, the funny thing is if we had gone in with £30M they would reject it asking for £30M plus £1. lol
People have become too sensitive in football in my opinion….
Cabaye returning home after travelling with the squad is major imho… I bet personal terms are being discussed and all… I bet Fiona is already talking to estate agents…
Wherever I am I always try and do one.
Had one in Brick Lane a couple of years ago…. The place had great reviews. It was rank …
I did one in Gambia which was better ….. brilliant value about £10 for the pair of us and that was with a few beers…
Perez can go to F.C. Porto
City,utd and chelsea look far much better from the rest of the league.
What about James Morrison from WBA instead same age slightly better passing stats and WBA might need the money more than Newcastle?
You have been to Gambia? Nice…
Brick lane currys are shite… I hear southall has the best in the country…
JM, Perez wanted by Porto?
I think Mulumbu is better but gets too many redcards…
Morgan Schneiderlein would have been good but the saints won’t sell they have money.
City look formidable…
Morgan Schneiderlein looks good and we have done business with the Saints before maybe we should get out Ninja transfer experts to make them an offer they cant refuse?
NUFC midfield have really surprised me… Tiote looks past it…
When they bought Wanyama I thought it was because they had accepted a bid from us but…
I doubt they will sell…
Ts i think NUFC are better than this, something ain’t right.
Maybe the idea of a very popular Yohan leaving has really upset and unravel the club… at least going by Pardew’s comments.
Ts did they accept the bid?
Its funny how fans think the manager is not into bidding and buying but if Liverpool and NUFC had not talked we may not have known about our activities..
I am certain other bids go in that are unknown by us.
We could have had Grenier much earlier too…
No Dna, but a non-selling club does not drop their best player.imo
This is what I was saying from May… Jovetic is very injury prone.
LadyArse @LadyArse 2h
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Ts, u right. Who are the players you think are the safer options now that afc leave it this late?
Morning all.
That’s what Nanas08 can do, come back Samir all is forgiven..lol
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We fucked Pardew off with that bid. Excellent work Arsenal. Don’t care if we get him now, we annoyed Pardew.
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Ts which club in the top 4 didn’t change their manager? lol
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I will not agree with anything Carragher says until he learns to speak in tones which don’t hurt my ears.
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Absolutely hilarious..
Ts, lol. He really got a fucked up accent. His looks doesn’t match his voice.
Dna, I think AW can make 8/of out 10 good players better or world class.
He makes 5 of 10 very good players like Suker and AA23 worse..
I like the idea of good to very good premiership based players than big name overseas players.
Rednose won titles buying players like Cantona who could not get in the french national team and Carrick who England fans hate. Such players have something to prove. Look at MA08 taking a pay cut to join us as an example…
When Man City make substitutions u got to wonder if the game just started, the player coming on is better than most on the field. lol
I agree ts, buying from the PL is a safer option now. Why Cabaye over Fellani though?
No Richards ,no Barry… hmmm. lol
These officials are garbage.
Too expensive and over rated…imho
Cabaye has won something too… and is a bit more disciplined.
Ts we need some height in the MF though. I’m not even counting Diaby.
Yilmaz is joining Lazio, seemingly…
Good point re height… normally when AW says a player is ‘intelligent’ he likes him. I wonder why we never went for him…
I may also add Cabaye scores from free-kicks too.
I think we need to go back for Suarez with 50mil and if they reject it go back with 50+adds on. We need to make a statement.
Report: Arsenal table big bid for Juventus midfielder
Arsenal have reportedly tabled a bid for Juventus midfielder Paul Pogba according to a report in tomorrows Telegraph.
Juventus are apparently willing to sell if the offer is over £20million, a player the club signed for free just 12 months ago after he left Manchester United.
Arsenal also made a £10million bid for Newcastle’s Yohan Cabaye on Sunday evening. 3 minutes ago
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Night Syg, Dna, Kt, v1066 and all.
Hopeful we get a signing tomorrow.. C’mon Arsenal.
Why is it people think that because a human being can play football, they must be intelligent enough to comment on the game?
Gee, you only have to listen to the crap they spit out to realise half are as dumb as dog shit.
Oliver Price-Bates @OliPriceBates 2m
Arsenal ‘monitoring’ Micah Richards situation. I hope this is followed by a bid soon, he has 1yr left on contract + wants out
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Ts is that the Queens English Carragher using. Its so selfish having a person like Carragher on a public forum when u can barely understand him. He is upset with Arsenal for recording the highest bid among the EPL teams, fucking clown.
😀 Scott…all well? Jamie in suit is a sight to abhor…
Pardew will be coming after you if you stay on here longer.lol
Scouser… Dna not Queens english… lol
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He is wasting his time hating afc because i’m certain Arsenal is going to be in the top 4, AW designed his team to b that way, they can keep suarez but it a waste of time.
All good Ginge.
Bit pissed off yesterday with people insulting other fans when frustrations should be directed at the board.
Cabaye….great start.
He is a very good player.
Richards would be a great buy as well.
Williams….not for me.
Is it true we might not be able to play both Cazorla and Koscielny tomorrow because of the yellow cards they received in the last UCL match against BM ??
Thankfully they are elligible and we play on the following day Wednesday aswell
So we’ve made another derisory bid for another teams player on the eve of their first match, thats really going to go down well and make negotiations smooth. How the Fcuk do the halfwits making these bids even get a job in such a large and successful organisation?! Haven’t posted for a while as I’m so bloody angry at the situation we find ourselves in, it didn’t have to be like this!!! They had so long to sort our squad out, if we go out of Europe in the next few weeks, we should all be calling for the resignations of the manager, and the board.
Rant over.
I’d take Micah Richards and he’s a Gooner!
Dear Arsène,
This letter is coming from a fan of over 30 years.
I have supported this club through various spells both lean and victorious. I understand the transient nature of football, and winning isn’t always possible. Some times are tougher, and you take the rough with the smooth. I respect you as a football manager for your achievements and hard work for Arsenal and there is no question that you will forever be remembered by generations of fans.
A football club has a social contract with its fans and is supposed to share a bond. In return for the hard earned money and unconditional support the fans give over, the manager and club are to do absolutely everything within their power to ensure success. To my mind, and that of thousands of Arsenal fans I speak to, this is not happening under your tenure – and has not been for several years.
It appears that your individual principles, and the manner in which you individually see football, take precedence over what Arsenal FC requires. Hence, if Arsène Wenger decides a player valuation is not to his liking then, irrespective of the glaring deficiencies in the squad, Arsène Wenger’s principles will win (to the detriment of the club). For an individual with a much-feted degree in economics, it is rather incredible that you fail to grasp the vagaries of the modern-day transfer market, and that price is determined by supply and demand. Hence a player is not worth whatever Arsène Wenger deems the player to be worth – he is deemed what the market determines he is worth. This point is exacerbated by the fact that you appear perfectly aware of how the market functions when it comes to making profits for the club: Adebayor sold for over £25 million, Nasri sold for over £24 million (despite having just one year of his contract left), Cesc Fabregas sold for £35 million. And yet, you are still to pay more than £20 million for a single player.
Teams like Aston Villa, Tottenham and Liverpool have all exceeded Arsenal’s transfer records, despite not having the luxury of Champions League television revenue. This is inexcusable, and more so in light of the fact that you personally defended the club hiking season ticket prices by 6.5%. This was allegedly done to ‘be more competitive in a testing transfer market’.
It is admirable to an extent that you have a strong philosophical belief in financial fair play, and a dislike for the excesses of vast oil wealth. Again, however, you have not opposed profiting from clubs such as Manchester City and Chelsea, selling players to them for vastly inflated fees – hence fuelling the success of these ‘financially-doped’ clubs and ironically, inflating the market whose very inflation you rail against. Despite your consistent deploring of the excessive wages that players demand, it is well-documented that your personal salary packet is, itself, huge.
There is only so much that oil money and financial doping can legislate for. It cannot legislate for any Arsenal manager citing fourth place as a ‘trophy’. It cannot legislate for domestic competition exits to Bradford and Blackburn in the same season. It cannot legislate for deliberately fielding weakened sides in serious cup competitions, and then dismissing the FA Cup as ‘not a trophy’. I think you will find that if you look around Arsenal’s honours in the Emirates stadium, the FA Cup of 2005 is noted as the last trophy the club won. You cannot begin to redefine which trophies can be selectively called trophies, because football and the history books do not distinguish between trophies.
I understand that you cannot win everything, every year. Unfortunate things happen in football that can throw plans into disarray. However the well-known saying is that if you fail to prepare, you must prepare to fail.
There is no excuse for becoming the first Premier League club to throw away a four-goal lead. There is no excuse for becoming the first Arsenal manager to suffer the ignominy of suffering an 8-2 humiliation at Old Trafford. This defeat was a direct consequence of a failure to prepare your team adequately for the season. There is never an excuse for a manager of your individual standing to look at the past eight years, and see that you have achieved less trophy prestige than the past and present managers of Swansea FC, Wigan Athletic, Portsmouth FC and Birmingham FC.
There is no excuse for losing a cup final to a Birmingham team that was subsequently relegated. Again, this defeat was a direct consequence of a failure to prepare, and a certain superiority complex that has appeared all too common at the club over the past few years, whereby ‘inferior’ opposition are not treated with the respect and seriousness they deserve. So, as the Birmingham players all turned up to Wembley early, dressed in suits and ties; the Arsenal ensemble arrived dressed in tracksuits and trainers, and appeared to think they only needed to turn up.
This is not the Arsenal way.
However, Arsène, two more recent incidents have occurred, which now serve to confirm absolutely that your time as manager of Arsenal must come to an end.
The first is the absolutely unacceptable preparation for the current season. Arsenal are one of the richest clubs in Europe. This is confirmed by Deloitte and by Forbes. Their cash reserves are immense, their financial health has been documented and analysed by the likes of Swiss Ramble. The glaring deficiencies in the team are well known to almost everyone, and Arsenal had the advantage of having settled management to steal a march on the likes of rivals Manchester City and Chelsea. The summer however, irrespective of what may occur in the next two weeks, has been an unmitigated disaster, and a shining example of how not to prepare. For this there are no excuses.
What is even more staggering however, is that you have openly stated that, despite spending ’24 hours a day’ analysing every player in Europe, you have been unable to find players of better quality than the ones you currently possess. This would be the same group of players incapable of mounting any credible challenge for the league last season, and that were embarrassed in the domestic cup competitions. You have even gone so far as to ask journalists and fans to immediately name-check the players better than your current ones. This is supposed to be your job, not that of the journalists. It is what you are paid to specialise in. If it is indeed true that you have been unable to identify anyone better than these players; then this is a sure sign that your tenure as Arsenal manager must end.
It is simply unacceptable for a club of Arsenal’s prestige and standing to be subjected to a scenario where there is barely a left-footed defender available in the whole squad, where there are barely 16 top-level players available for selection in the entire club, where an erratic goalkeeper continues to make key errors knowing there are no credible consequences for his actions; and whereby the team ends a match with an international attacker at left-back, a midfielder at centre-back, and a right-back playing out of position on the left. This does not happen at non-league clubs and it certainly should not be happening to a club with aspirations of winning the Champions League.
The second incident which occurred was the sale of Robin van Persie to Manchester United. Now, as fans, we understand that the player wanted to go and that it is difficult to keep an unhappy player. However this was the Arsenal captain and the best striker in the division. Having competed with Manchester United for so many seasons; it goes against the competitive spirit to sell van Persie to them. This summer has proved again that there was an alternative to selling van Persie. Liverpool, who have nowhere near the financial resources of Arsenal, dug their heels in with Luis Suarez and refused to sell him to Arsenal. This was despite not having Champions League football and despite a mammoth offer. Manchester United, likewise, have refused to entertain the notion of selling Wayne Rooney to a domestic rival, despite the offers on the table. In fact, looking further afield, even Borussia Dortmund held on to Robert Lewandowski despite his being a free agent next summer. Their manager emphasised that footballing ambition and rivalry would always supersede money (Goetze had left only because of a legal clause in his contract – Dortmund have learned from this and now removed all clauses from future contracts).
However van Persie was gift-wrapped to Manchester United with the sign-off from you to Alex Ferguson that ‘he is better than you think’.
I believe this is a huge betrayal of the Arsenal fans.
You have been at Arsenal many years and you have done a lot for Arsenal – but Arsenal has done even more for you. There is absolutely no chance that any other elite club would tolerate three years without a single trophy, let alone eight. It is unthinkable. Arsenal fans have patiently backed you for eight fruitless years. They have stood silent as you derisorily told them they ‘had not worked half a day in football’ (a peculiar observation, as it would mean film critics would all have to retire, not having worked half a day as directors). They still said nothing as you again accused them of wanting caviar on a daily basis. You even went as far as to blame these fans for Gervinho’s failure as a footballer just a few days ago. You have failed to take personal responsibility for Arsenal’s current state, whereby it is deemed ok to celebrate fourth place with champagne, and sell your best players to domestic rivals.
The incredible leeway and good faith you have been given has extended so far that it culminated in this summer’s transfer window of spectacular inaction. Ivan Gazidis is not to blame for this – he has done his job by negotiating competitive commercial deals for the club. Stan Kroenke is not to blame for this, as the funds are available to you to make Arsenal competitive, and you have a non-interfering owner. Stan Kroenke and Ivan Gazidis do not coach the team, they do not prepare the defending nor do they designate tactics and fitness – this is down to you, and you alone.
It was acceptable to give you all due praise for the years of success (and the praise is deserved). Hence, the blame for the years of failure is also attributable to you. In that spirit, Mr Wenger, and given the now toxic atmosphere that teeters on the brink of an explosive rebellion, I would ask you to please offer your resignation and walk away from Arsenal.
You have professed a ‘love’ for Arsenal on several occasions. Well, now would be the perfect time to act upon this. Your continued presence at the club will only serve to divide it further and alienate many fans. This does not mean that any new manager is the immediate solution. What it does mean, though, is that this cannot continue. Eight years is more time than any other top manager is given. Patience and goodwill are now fully exhausted.
So before things get incredibly bad, Arsène – and it would be a shame for your legacy to end on such a bitter note – please submit your resignation, as quickly as possible. We aren’t fickle, Arsène – we just no longer want you managing this club anymore.
Kind regards
Emmanuel Fyle
20th August 2013
Richards would be good lee, doubt city would sell to us though.
We’re not their competition though Lewis, sad but true….
Sad and very true.
6.57 Lee, would it be very wrong of me to say that I would too…. 😉
Morning all….
Back in around 30 mins…
Good Morning Lady.
Just finished a messy job. Engine oiled and filtered.
Cabaye? I think that AFC will get him for 15million. Juventus also seem willing to take 20million for Pogba. that would make it 35 million. And if Swansea accept 35million for Williams and Michu that would make 70 million and a whole new spine.
I would rather have Richards though. Can play both RB and CB.
Dev, you know how Arsene likes a player that can play more than one position….i’m surprised Flamoney hasn’t been signed!
Morning all,
Richards was not in the squad at all. Garcia was the backup CB. Richards has a year to go on his contract and he has rejected the clubs offer.
Barry was omitted from the squad for the first time even though he is fit…. hmmm
Morning Ginge.
All ifs and buts and whys. Richards, Barry, Cabaye. All left out of the squads for the game.
Many questions left ananswered. We will know on the 3rd of September.
Much as I hate Pardew though…….he is right regarding the TW. It should be over by the time the EPL starts. And that is for players in the EPL only. Up till the 2nd Sept you can buy from anywhere in the world. But you have only between the 1st of July and the start of the EPL to buy from English clubs.
At least it would spare us the hassle and tension. That would force AW’s hand or those who like to buy late in the TW.
Morning All…
I’m feeling pretty fed up today as I’m sure you all are as well. This morning my gripe is two fold.
1) Why is it that we bid £10m for a player who was signed for £4.6m 2 years ago and who hasn’t exactly improved and this is seen as a derisory bid. Also, I read that the bid was made on Friday so not on the even of a match. We get serious grief for this.
It’s surely not our fault the window remains open 1 month in to the new season?? Or is it?
2) United take the piss with their offer and it’s them doing good business? Now hold on a minute…Baines and Fellani cost Everton £21m quid and both have improved significantly yet United bidding £28m is not seen as derisory. They’ve added £7m to the cost of 2 player who are both better than Cabaye and we more than double what Newcastle paid…
I know we’re total muppets when it comes to the transfer market, but I can’t help but think that anything is a stick to beat us with at the moment.
I will never stick up for the club not making any major signings at this stage of the window, but I do understand that some of planning will be around our CL qualification, for the players that really want CL football.
Morning Dev,
A man of many talents…
Like you, I think the transfer window has to either stay opened throughout or close before the start of the season…
Richard had a hamstring out for 3weeks. He is injury prone. I think we should pass.
Barry is on his way to everton, 1year loan move. Not confirmed yet
Good morning b/w
Hi Emma thanks for the clarification…
Do we know if Schalke 04 and the Old Lady have rejected our bids yet?
Willian > Sp*urs
AVB is building a very solid team. They’ve really put the Bale’s money into good use.
I’m in total agreement that the window should shut. they go on that club reps and players are away during the summer, so it’s difficult to do deals – what a lot of rubbish.
Basically the likes of Man City did all their business well in advance of the season starting and the likes of Arsenal sit on their hands waiting for the last 2 weeks.
Therefore you just shorten the window and clubs like Arsenal have to do their business earlier.
Surely it’s that simple, Then us fans and the rest of the world don’t have to hear these boring stories time and time again.
There’s nothing like ruining your appetite for a new season by killing all excitement with total dross stories every year.
Not many talents Ginge. Its just that I promote what I know. What I dont I keep it hidden mate. But cars, football, gardening and tinkering about are my main hobbies. Then again my Pa was a mechanic so I just copied what I saw 😉
seems as if NUFC want 20million for Cabaye. told you we will get fleeced. I think we will settle for 15. Plus 20 million for Pogba. That would make it 35 million. And the Swansea pair for another 35 million (fleeced again).
If we go to the pharmacist to buy the renowned pill FUKITOL I suggest you read Nottingham Forest’s history post the CL win and you will know were we are heading. There are many similarities between post-CL win of Forest and post the Invincibles season of 2004.
New post up…