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Welbeck not good enough for them, so why is he for us?

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Morning all.

Louis van Gaal has been asked why he sold Danny Welbeck to Arsenal:

Welbeck played for three years at Manchester United after his Sunderland loan but he doesn’t have a Robin van Persie or Wayne Rooney record. He didn’t have the standard.

So that’s why he sold him!

As for the question about why is he deemed good enough for us, well Arsene Wenger answered that yesterday:

 He can make himself a better player [here] because I can help him. He’s a young boy, he’s not 24 yet and let’s not forget that some players who arrived here at the age of 23 made huge careers here so I hope we can contribute and help him.

I personally think that LvG has been a bit quick to write Danny Welbeck as do so many people associated with Manchester Utd who have declared their disappointment over this transfer. People who know Welbeck a lot better than LvG.

Just who will end up being right remains to be seen but I have a sneaky feeling that our new man will hit the ground running and will totally enjoy his next few years ahead and with it, prove LvG very wrong. I also think that making such a public statement about a player not being  up to standard is quite cruel, inconsiderate and totally unnecessary. Especially when it’s the opinion of just one man who has probably barely seen Welbeck play.

One thing is for sure and that’s this transfer has caused a big stir everywhere and for once, it’s good that we are not the club being criticised. On the contrary in fact, we have got a young and very talented English International striker for just £16 million.

Wonder what Alexis and Ramsey are thinking...
Wonder what Alexis and Ramsey are thinking…

Aaron Ramsey and Alexis Sanchez are either both grumpy or they just have been told the joke which Jack Wilshere and Danny Welbeck have been told. Or maybe they are just thinking about the lunchtime kick-off tomorrow. We don’t like those do we?

Arsene Wenger disagrees:

I think the coincidence was that we played against very strong teams away from home at 12.45.

I think it was more the quality of our opponents and the lack of quality in our performance that produced a result, not the kick-off time.

At home we’ve played well at 12.45. In the FA Cup we had great games at 12.45. It’s not the kick-off time, it’s your performance. It’s how you turn up. At 12.45 or three o’clock – for me that’s just talk. It’s the quality of the performance that counts.

Would you rather kick off at 3 o’clock or 12.45? It’s two hours and 15 minutes. That does not produce a miracle in your physical recovery. Sometimes maybe, on our side, we go a bit too much overboard on that. I think 12.45 is a good kick-off time. I like it.

Well I hope they all turn up in the right frame of mind tomorrow as anything less and we’ll get beaten. The players are clearly in good spirits and enjoyed their photo shoot yesterday as there was a lot of larking around. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain appeared to be at the heart of most things.

Finally, the Under 21’s beat Aston Villa last night in a game which saw Abou Diaby play for 90 minutes and that’s welcome news for the squad. Hopefully soon he’ll be knocking on the first team’s door. Whether or not it will open remains to be seen but if he can play at the level he did against Liverpool twenty years ago, he’ll no doubt get a few games this season.

Chuba Akpom scored both goals and I bet he thinks his chance could come soon too, after all, he’s scoring goals, unlike someone else I coud mention…..

On that note, have a good Friday….

 

rico

140 thoughts on “Welbeck not good enough for them, so why is he for us?”

  1. Nickie says:

    Morning,

    Nice post Rico.

    Welbeck should have even more determination to show LVG he’s wrong which only benefits us.

    On Sanchez, I also thought he looked a bit sad in all of the team photos lol. Not one smile

  3. Bob John says:

    Morning Rico
    Hopefully the arrogant van Ghoul has done Danny’s motivating for him!
    BTW Sad day for us ‘doggie people’. No doubt the poor love responsible will get his hand held and we will be told how ‘troubled’ he is!

  4. frednerk says:

    Like the quote from Rio turdinhand(Qpr),

    The Arsenal front line of Sanchez,Wellbeck,Walcott and the Ox,
    would give the USA relay team a run for their money.

  7. rico says:

    Morning Bob.

    It’s a very sad day for all of us who love dogs and other animals. I’d see that little bastard hang if he’s guilty!

  10. Joywedsjeff says:

    Somebody who has yet to play good football let alone manage a win calls another not good enough?
    By the time Welbeck is scoring his 12th league goal in dec LVG will be on an island somewhere with his compensation package. The panicing united board are desperate for results and LVG must deliver at once. Problem is RVP is due a long term injury soon and rumours abound that Joey Barton has been asked to examine Falcao’s knee on sunday.

  12. rico says:

    Ha ha Jeff, I was thinking this morning about who at Qpr could do just that and totally forgot about Barton.. I so hope he’s up for Falcao and RvP… lol

  13. Wavy says:

    I agree Bonex. LvG has been a little too outspoken about Welbeck. He’s seen the criticism and like all control freaks and bullies he has had a snap at his departed player, to defend what he now regrets. But as he thinks he was born in a stable surrounded by sheep an d asses, he believes he is the new Messiah, the second coming! Life after Fergie (LaF)!
    I suspect he really knows he has bitten off more than he can chew. Buying freely during the supermarket sweep, probably not purchasing the right or necessary players. We’ll see, but I would love it, just love it if he follows Moyes out of the door at the end of a fruitless season!

    Welbeck, the new Henry, I would like that as would every
    Arsenal supporter. Let’s hope he will be.

  15. Idontpretendtoknowitall says:

    This has little to do with Danny Welbeck and nothing to do with Arsenal. It has everything to do with the media’s obssession with everything Man U. This has been headline news ever since the window closed which is absurdly out of proportion.

  18. potter says:

    The problem with 12.45 is often the flat atmosphere which permeates round the ground and gets picked up by the players. No longer do the London crowd live just round the corner and stroll through Finsbury Park to watch the match. I like many live a long way from the ground and have to leave home 4 1/2 hours before the kick off to warrant getting through the traffic. It’s coffee to wake up on arrival rather than the pint in the pub for most of us. That’s for home matches when you travel away it’s even worse.

  19. bradster says:

    Morning HH friends.

    i’m more worried about our runway through the middle that we’ve allowed every team to waltz through.

    I’d love to see Ozil sit this one out and have players in who’ll work for the team like they did against Beshiktas.
    I also worry about the size problem with City’s big CM’s bossing the midfield.

    Lastly hoping Jovetic is actually injured as that boy has come to form.

  24. rico says:

    Just watching last night’s match, how Coquelin can be a first team squad player I do not know. He can’t even boss the midfield against an Aston Villa under 21 side…

  25. Hell Raising Devil says:

    Good morning Tweety birds and Tazmanian devils.

    Nice post Rico……..I hope that by the end of the season it would be LVG who would prove he is not good enough for Yanited of Manure.

  26. kyawmgmgtun says:

    Hello rico & friends
    May i say…
    Should we change our formation 4.2.3.1.
    We have many wing players and strikers.
    More play attacking.
    4.3.3 , 4.3.1.2 , 4.1.2.1.2
    Should play with 2 strikers.
    How do you think rico.

  27. rico says:

    Thanks Devil, regardless of their season, I think Utd will stand by LvG, it’ll cost them too much to sack a big name like him… lol

  29. Hell Raising Devil says:

    I think that eventually LVG will turn the press against Manure…..for bringing in foreigners and omitting Englishmen. Think about it. Welbeck was the first. Cleverley went to Villa. So that is two Englishmen out.

    And suddenly we are getting a bigger quota of Englishmen

    we wait and see

  32. Wavy says:

    Devil, not to mention Jones and Smalling who are absolute crap, so they’ll go in January!
    LvG after a season of abject failure will blame his demise on too many injuries! And the fact that RvPee and Woonee didn’t score enough goals!

  37. Ikeyi Joe. says:

    The Danny Wellbeck signing, has cause a lot of stir recently .We will see very soon wether he is good 4 us or not. I trust the prof. 4 his good jugdment.All hail A.Wenger.

  38. rico says:

    Just that he’s glad to leave all the negativity around him at OT behind…

    Reading between the lines, I think he’s just glad to be out of OT…

  41. Hell Raising Devil says:

    ic

    I would have liked him to come. I think he would have flourished. Imagine had we got him or Rodwell. BOth Englishmen

  45. Hell Raising Devil says:

    AW should have got one of Delph, Rodwell or Cleverly. Rodwell went for 10mill which would have been a steal for us. And all three are still young

  49. Ruel Carvey says:

    Mr. Arrogant LVG is feeling the pressure and will be feeling a lot more quite soon, its just a matter of time before the media and Manu fans get on is back
    To imply welbeck was not good enough for manner you, will be the comment that started is downfall

  50. Gunnerdna says:

    Morning all, good post rico.

    Van Gal might sound a bit harsh, but i think he was just being honest to the question asked. DW is not on the same level with the other strikers at the club and that’s the truth. I don’t thinks he fancy’s been diplomatic, which i like, i hate liars. As for tomorrow game, if AW persist with the 4-1-4-1 formation it will be 24 points out of 93 over 5 years against the big dogs of the PL. imo. Its either AW is willing to adjust his team selection counter the opponent treats or face the consequences. #simple

  51. rico says:

    Let’s hope so RC, but ours will be on the back of AW if we can’t beat City tomorrow – we have to stop the rot against the likes of City..

  52. rico says:

    Thanks Gdna..

    All I would add to that is what was RvP doing at 23 years old?

    And I’m of the opinion that Rooney is on the decline, whereas DW could very well be on the way up…

    Only time will tell how this all pans out….

  53. Gunnerdna says:

    Rico, Man U are trying to get back in the CL by any means necessary, i’m not sure they really care about who gets hurt in the process. They are the third best sports franchise in the world, they gonna make decisions that is hard to comprehend, its just like FCB selling Cesc.

  54. . . . and gawd bless Dennis Bergkamp says:

    Afternoon all. It’s an interesting comment from LvG. He’s obviously stamping his authority on the club, which he’s well known for doing. I doubt that any criticism will bother him at all, he seems very single minded and driven. Manure will score plenty of goals but I think they will concede quite a few as well. I’m more annoyed by journalists writing that Wenger only wanted to sign DW on loan (that idiot on the back of the Evening Standard for example). That’s not what he said as all!!

    After 40+ years of reading shoddy and intentionally sensationalist crap in newspapers you’d think I would be used to it!

    Sorry, rant over.

  56. Gunnerdna says:

    Manuel Pellegrini has confirmed midfielder Fernando and striker Stevan Jovetic have been ruled out of Saturday’s lunchtime trip to Arsenal.

  57. Hell Raising Devil says:

    today I got the new HH layout Rico……..WELL DONE

    I like it as its my favourite colour…..the same colour as the 2006 shirt.

  58. . . . and gawd bless Dennis Bergkamp says:

    Thanks Rico. Sometimes you just have to get things off your chest. My son is the only other Arsenal supporter in my house, and he’s only 6 so there’s no point in telling him just yet.

  59. rico says:

    Devil, there was no changes before now. I’m just sat playing around to see what different themes look like.. 🙂

    No probs GBDB, we all need a rant sometimes and that’s why places like here are around, it’s better than throwing a saucepan across the room… 😉

  60. . . . and gawd bless Dennis Bergkamp says:

    Throwing a saucepan . . . . what a great idea. Right just off to he kitchen! If i’m honest, Rico, I think I preferred the old theme.

  65. goonster says:

    Gee rico make up your mind already. My head is spinning from the changes you got going on here plus I prefer the old format. This looks too much like ACLF and arsenal arsenal blog. Morning HH.

  66. Joywedsjeff says:

    Gdna… It was more like a childlike parting shot. Wonder what Smalling, Evans, Jones and the rest of the players not signed by him would be thinking right now. Mata and Januzaj will obviosly spend time on the bench. It will either be very good for LVG or very bad. Barca fans don’t have any fond memories of him and i suspect united fans will soon start raving mad.
    Just been on an Mcfc blog and many reckon Arsenal will win by two clear goals. The butt of their anger is directed at Yaya Toure. They say he is not comitted to the cause this season.

  69. Wath says:

    Brad, Aaron trained today apparently so we’ll see if he has any reaction to the ankle and or if he is fit enough for 2moro… lets hope so then again no need to stuff it up or risk it so early in the season and with Dortmund on Tuesday.

  70. Gunnerdna says:

    Joyw, its all opinions, those players you listed aren’t good enough to question LVG decisions, its not his 1st time managing a club team. And i’m not sure he cares what they think. Secondly players who play in big clubs either deals with competition for places or find a club that will have them as center of attractions. The best teams in club football are always gonna have the best players, so at times good players will have to sit on the bench, that’s nothing new in the bigger clubs these days. Once the club is winning trophies and players are being paid handsomely, they will happily sit their ass down without making a sound.

  71. Wath says:

    Some players have a bit more ambition than to just sit on their arses Gdna… If your being played out of position and you want to play then the bench isn’t going to satisfy your ambition to play regularly how ever big the pay cheque so some choose to move on… most do settle for the cash though depends on the age I reckon and the attitude and character of the player.

  72. roundleather says:

    With Giroud Out and Sanogo struggling,I guess its time to try playing without Wenger’s ‘hold-up play’ striker. Danny-Alexis will make a good last season ‘SAS’,with Ozil doing the serving. A tough trio to match Yaya&Co in midfield,Give me Arteta,Flami,Ramsey.
    Worried they will run @our fullbacks? Danny and Alexis will help out,both are quite comfortable tracking back along the flank.

  73. Gunnerdna says:

    Wath, i agree. But there is a difference when players are told they are 3/4th choice or surplus to requirement, that’s when the agents starts barking and the play out of position and all other excuses being made. If RM had offered Di Maria the wage increase he demanded, he would sit his ass down and would never join Man U.

  74. Joywedsjeff says:

    Gdna… You have a valid point. I want to see how he deals with Januzaj and Mata. Those two won’t want to sit on the bench for long and they do not seem to fit into his style of play

  76. Joywedsjeff says:

    Gdna… You have a valid point. I want to see how he deals with Januzaj and Mata. Those two won’t want to sit on the bench for long and they do not seem to fit into his style of play plus they have only one competition to play in between now and January.

  77. Gunnerdna says:

    Joy, they will get their chances, but every manager have their preference when it comes to certain players. I watched the u21 game yesterday (AFC vs AV) and i can name a certain 1st team player who would struggle to start in the AFC team, but he is our new poster boy.

  78. Wath says:

    Gdna, Yep sure many start to moan when the agent kicks up a fuss but didn’t hear that from Welbeck did we… I think LVG made a decision to sell and Welbeck decided fine if you want me out then least now I might get to play in my preferred position and then you’ll see what you got rid of….! Time will tell.
    LVG certainly won’t drop rvp, fatboy rooney of flalcao for Welbeck so good job the fella got out while he could and it’s for our benefit.

  79. rico says:

    2.14 Wath, ha ha, I wish they had… 😉

    Adam, that’s because it is – for a while.. lol

    Goonster, HH looks nothing like the two site you mention, behave! lol

    Afternoon all….

  92. Hell Raising Devil says:

    I liked the colours of 2006 best Rico. That is my favourite colour. and put those yellow/blue t-shirt on that background

  97. Joaquim Moreira says:

    Congratulations for the new look.
    tomorrow, is an important game for both teams.
    So, no more signs for the moment. We will see next week

  114. frednerk says:

    Morning All,
    Getting the feeling that Danny maybe the new henry/wrighty for us,other than the flatnose dutchman,it seems everyone’s got a good word for him.

  117. rico says:

    Morning Fred. I’m very positive about our new man, really hope he starts today..

    🙂 Perhaps I will change the gravatars, they look a bit big and grumpy…

  118. Bt62 Gooner says:

    Morning all, thank fook real footie is back……..play as unit today and we have a chance of 3pts. We need a performance of grit and guile, so far we’ve been pretty average, today is the day to make a statement of intent…

  121. rico says:

    🙂 Yesterday afternoon Bt, not sure if I like it but it’s brighter and I think a little better than it was. Need to get rid of a few things down the right though…

  122. Bt62 Gooner says:

    Rico, thought i’d walked into some kind of parallel world. when i logged on early this morning..definitely a bit brighter.

  124. Lee says:

    Going to miss the second half as I’ve got to drive to Bishops Stortford to watch my son play rugby…..
    Yeah wish I was having a ruby for breakfast with my old China’s!

  129. Bt62 Gooner says:

    Rico, i need your assistance, i can’t seem to get transfers done on the fantasy footie, have you any pointers?

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