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Martinez to Arsenal ? Higuain too! What matters most Arsenal fans? The performance or result?

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Morning all.

So, Chelsea were crowned Premier League Champions.

No doubt many football fans, especially Arsenal ones will be thinking about just how boring their style of football was last season, especially during the second half of the the campaign.

But the league table will simply see them sitting at the top and no reference will be made to how they achieved their goal. Another trophy will go into their cabinet, another medal around the players necks and more money paid into the club as reward.

Meanwhile, we have huffed and puffed our way through this season, sometimes playing badly, sometimes turning on the style and on other occasions, playing pragmatic football has reaped reward away from home.

Pragmatic – but isn’t that what Chelsea have been?

Were we Arsenal fans not crying out for Arsene Wenger to play in a similar way just a few seasons ago when we were getting battered away from home by City, Utd, Chelsea, Everton and Liverpool? Even at The Emirates we were being beaten because we insisted on playing ‘the right way’.

But what is the right way?

Attacking free flowing football to entertain the fans? Or sensible, pragmatic football to ensure a win, or certainly not a loss.

Perfection is perhaps a mix of both but if Chelsea, Utd, City and other clubs who rolled up at The Emirates and Arsene Wenger set us up in a way which Mourinho does his side, would you guys be pleased if it meant three points?

Away from home this season, our results have a been a lot better than in recent years, no 8-2, 5-0, 6-1 or whatever those harrowing score-lines were and we managed to hold clubs like Utd, Liverpool and even Everton to a draw, mind you, all three should have been won but those results surely show a bit of progress. Beating City away was good too.

Our biggest failing has been at The Emirates.

Points dropped:

2 v Sunderland

3 v Swansea

2 v Chelsea

3 v Utd

2 v Hull

2 v Totts

2 v City

A massive 16 points dropped, 16 points which added to our tally, would have won the Premier League.

I don’t sit at The Emirates each home game but trust me, if I lived near London and could afford it, I would without question and as much as I’d loved to be entertained by free flowing and exciting football, sometimes I’d much rather rather walk home knowing three points were in the bag, especially having played one of the so called bigger clubs.

So would you be happy if Arsenal replicated Chelsea and the way they play if it meant winning the Premier League?

[yop_poll id=”3″]

Gossip:

Jackson Martinez has apparently been told he can move this summer which in the tabloids translates to him signing for Arsenal.

The Mirror have a story which suggests Theo Walcott wants to know how often he’ll play and in which position before signing on the dotted line.

The same paper reports that Arsenal have made contact with Napoli over a move for Gonzalo Higuain, according to Italian journalist Tancredi Palmeri.

However, The Express report that Arsenal are one of the teams battling to secure the signing of Sevilla striker Carlos Bacca.

Finally, Liverpool are winning the race to sign James Milner…

On that note, have a good Tuesday guys….

 

rico

143 thoughts on “Martinez to Arsenal ? Higuain too! What matters most Arsenal fans? The performance or result?”

  4. rogerbij says:

    Hi Rico, nice end of season post. I think that one thing that has always made me proud to be an Arsenal fan (since the earliest days of Wenger) is the style with which we play. Everyone I meet (who isnt a straight hater) concedes that Arsenal plays a style of football that they wish their team could play. Few teams in world football can play with the swagger and panache that Arsenal do on their day – fewer still that can do it without spending stratospheric amounts of money.

    I think you say it well in your post – “Attacking free flowing football to entertain the fans? Or sensible, pragmatic football to ensure a win, or certainly not a loss. Perfection is perhaps a mix of both”.

    Certainly it is.

    For 80% of the seasons games we can play the Arsenal way – we clearly have a better team than most opposition. They have to respond to us, say by parking the bus and/or hitting us on the counter or at set pieces. But for the other 20% we have to be more tactically aware. Conscious not to flood forward and leave the midfield gaping for example. And this season we were markedly better in that department (helped by the incredible emergence of Le Coq).

    So style and swagger it is most of the time, a team to make us marvel. But when we come up against Chelsea, or City, or a decent CL team we need a sensible, balanced approach. And even over the course of such games there will be moments where we can express ourselves at the right end of the pitch.

  5. Hell Raising Devil says:

    Good Morning Lovelies and Hunkies.

    Nice post boss. take a peep in your inbox when you can.

    glorious weather here. sun shining and a bit of breeze as well. I prefer Bacca over Benzema or Higuain any day. But if its a straight choice between them and MArtinez I would go for the latter.

    I hope we get Milner as well if we are to loose Schneiderlin.

  7. a says:

    i would love higuain at arsenal , because he can drop into midfield and isnt easy to mark, plus if in games walcott starts but has no impact he can be moved to the right and higuain central

    i would like arsenal to start with walcott upfront next season and giroud on the bench or sold, the ox on the right and another quality striker

    people seem to forget we have chamberlain to come back who can play midfield

    as much as i love carzola i would like wilshere or ramsey playing alongside coquelin next season they are our future

    we need strong cover for dm role , purchasing someone like schnierdlin would be great but for his fee he will expect to start every game

    i really want us to go in for cech and send scezeny out on loan – why loan because i am massive ac milan fan and one season they bought jens lehman who was considered to be one of the best young goal keepers but he failed miserably and went back to germany where he was laughed at over his failure but steadily got his confidence back and then came to us and how good was crazy jens. some goalies become better later on , van da sarr – failed at juve came to fulham then utd

    yes we should buy cech but not sell szechny

    i dont expect too many players coming in – remember we have gnabry an excellent talent back also so we dont need sterling as we have someone we can bring in gradually – like wenger wants

    i am little worried at handing arteta an extension – love the guy and his professionalism but we need someone strong to cover coquelin , rosicky – i think he is excellent but maybe he will be taking another place on the subs bench – perhaps gnabry’s

    we have akpom also who is an option

    players to leave, podolski , joel campbell on loan, dont think wenger will let him have a poor loan spell and sell him cheap, flamini, giroud – yes he is good but someone like benteke or higuain would be a better option, diaby – i just wished he would give us one full season, people mock him but when he played he made it look easy

    its really hard when you think about who will come in as the squad is full and players need to leave not just fringe players

    we need to be cruel this year, just like mourinho was with de bruyne , shurrle – both excellent players, i believe he will do the same with oscar this year

    also – with our injury issues and sanchez play copa america this year, we need him to be injury free and fresh so cover for him ? or play walcott/gnabry to cover him and the ox on the right?

  8. rico says:

    Hi Roger, thanks.

    Good comment – it’s funny really how at home, we’d expect us to play the free flowing football most if the time, yet at home is where we have suffered our worst results and during that first part of the season, our football was far from being entertaining.

    Agree that somehow, we have to find a way passed the bus when is parked…

  11. rico says:

    A – what makes you think fans have forgotten Oxlade-Chamberlain?

    People here on HH have been talking about how much we’ve missed him, so there’s no forgetting him here.

    If we are to sign a striker, personally I’d prefer an out and out goal scorer, not a player who can be pushed out wide or back etc….

  12. Adam says:

    Morning Rico and all. An interesting post about a subject that you and I have spoken of many times. I tend to think that there is no cut and dried answer to the poll though. When we have lost or achieved a dull draw it is usually because we have played badly or been defensively unsound. If we have enough quality we should be able to impose our game on most teams by combining pragmatism with flare. Having said that, I have to say that the performance really matters to me. We were rubbish against Swansea a few weeks back and we lost despite creating enough chances to win. Neither pragmatic nor particularly creative.
    It’s also a cultural thing made in the reflection of the manager.

  13. andrewh1313 says:

    I cant sign into wordpress, used to be able to, that’s what sends voting in to a loop. But gravatar works, that’s main thing to save having to always enter full details.

  15. rico says:

    Morning Adam, we have.

    There isn’t a yes or no to the question really but as many people here in the past have suggested that three points is all what matters at the end of a game, I thought a vote would give an idea to how many fans prefer a win over a loss at any cost…

  17. scottfromoz says:

    I couldn’t vote for some reason.
    Performance first, for me.
    Hey, I’m an idealist who loves the game in its purest form.
    I detest cheats.
    I loathe boring football.
    So sue me 🙂 🙂

  20. Adam says:

    Against Swansea and Sunderland we were very sluggish and lazy though. It was horrible to watch and we dropped 5 points in two games against teams we really should be beating. Then again I guess we can’t always be on top of our game.

  22. rico says:

    We were Adam, I think a lot of that was down to 4th place being secured and an FA Cup final loomed.

    Even back in 2004 when we could go unbeaten, once the league had been won, our performances dropped…

  24. Adam says:

    Winning is a habit though Rico and we played even worse than that much earlier in the season when we really couldn’t afford to drop points. That’s what cost us a proper tilt at the title and with so little pressure Mourinho coasted through. It’s all about him anyway, as we know.

  25. scottfromoz says:

    Yes it does, Rico, but would you enjoy watching Chelski every week?
    Sorry, but there truly is more to life for me than winning.
    I am being honest.
    I respect the fact others will differ in there opinion though, and there’s no right or wrong answer.
    So many mates asked why I didn’t head down to Sydney where Chelski are playing right now because I love the game.
    Well, if Swansea or Soton were playing, is be there, but I couldn’t pay to watch that boring sack of shit play, and I’d probably jump the fence and launch at Joe Say lol

  26. scottfromoz says:

    Just to add, I don’t think it was our style so much as simply crap performances that killed us this season.
    Let’s face it, against plenty of teams we dropped points against, if we were anywhere near our best, we’d have won.
    Consistency more than a Plan B for mine.
    Though saying that, we were good v Citeh 🙂

  27. rico says:

    Agree Adam, we were truly awful first part of the season t to be fair, we had many important players out injured as I covered yesterday – it’s no coincidence that since they’ve come back and certain other players have dropped to the bench, we’ve improved…

  28. rico says:

    Scott, absolutely not, can’t stand the way they play or behave for that matter…

    However, in certain matches, their style of play would get us better results…

  29. scottfromoz says:

    Rico, I didn’t mean to suggest you wanted that….I’m not that horrible lol
    The Citeh game, we were intelligent, without being boring.
    Against big guns, that should be the game plan.

  31. Bob John says:

    Hi all. Interesting debate. My view is that I wouldn’t want to resort to the sort of low life tactics that the Chavs display. It takes a certain type of coach and players to be that revolting!! Anyone hear Michael Owen comment during the game on Saturday when I think Alexis was fouled by Westwood? Owen said “normally Arsenal players would be surrounding the ref demanding a yellow card”.What planet is this idiot on!

  32. rico says:

    Agree re the City game Scott. I hope that’s the kind of performance we’ll see next season away from home against the ‘big clubs’.

    Although that performance was dampened by ‘some’ because apparently, City were poor, a bit like Villa…

  34. rico says:

    Bj, thankfully I watched BBC so skipped that idiots comments… Us surround the ref? Think he’s confusing us with the Chavs…

  36. Canadian Gooner says:

    Good Morning to The Lady of the House and all fellow Gooners in residence.

    Rico – you’ve really set the cat among the pigeons with that article. It has prompted some interesting debate though.

    Scott – I’m with you “Performance first, for me.
    Hey, I’m an idealist who loves the game in its purest form.
    I detest cheats.
    I loathe boring football.”

    It’s our flair and style that make our team who they are. Certainly, we need to temper that with some pragmatism and tactical nous when required. However, I don’t think it was our team’s flair that lost us most of the games in the first half of the season, but missing key players and the fit ones not putting in the effort required.

    With the return of a a few key players, the team jelling and a vast improvement in team attitude & spirit we went on an extended winning streak playing with confidence, flair and spirit.

    If we have to play like Chelski to win the league we are no longer Arsenal.

  39. Canadian Gooner says:

    Bob John – Michael Owen the Micro-cephalic Merseysider repeatedly delights in playing the village idiot and shouldn’t be taken seriously. He is doing his best to keep a very old tradition alive.

    He really should learn to keep his mouth shut, but I have rarely seen someone who takes such great delight in continually confirming he is an imbecile. I can’t help but wonder if he is thinking of running for public office.

  40. Canadian Gooner says:

    Bob John – I live in Victoria on the west coast, about as far from Toronto as as it is from London (England that is).

  42. scottfromoz says:

    Bloody Chelski are getting huge publicity for coming here to Oz.
    Arsene, we are waiting.
    Aussies love sport, and even non Football fans would appreciate our style of play….they’d flock to a game.

  43. Canadian Gooner says:

    Scott – How are your hounds doing? I haven’t seen you talk about them for a while. What is their racing season?

  44. scottfromoz says:

    CG, we race 12 months a year, here.
    Our trainer let us down badly.
    We are unsure what happened, but a sudden decision to move interstate came up, so a new, local trainer, was found.
    I went to pick up 3 racedogs and 3 young pups, and found the older dogs were in disgraceful condition.
    I’ve copped app. $3,000 in vet fees over the last month and with one of them, it’s a 6 month haul to get him back to 100%.
    Patience is required, but they’re in the right hands now.
    I was lucky to be chatting with an absolute top class trainer of a decade back who’s getting back into the game when this all blew up, so I know the dogs will be looked after now.
    It was disappointing, of course, but I backed the original trainer as the dogs had always been In superb condition and I’m yet to get to the bottom of how it turned pear shaped.
    Onwards and upwards now though.

  45. Canadian Gooner says:

    Scott – Glad to hear things are improving. I can’t fathom people, especially professionals who make their living from them, abusing and/or neglecting animals under their care. Hopefully there is a regulatory body you can report to about your original trainer.

  46. scottfromoz says:

    CG, he will get his.
    I trained my own for years.
    I was not great because I couldn’t give them the required time, but I found it hard to find an honest trainer whowe first concern was the dogs welfare.
    I thought I had, but at least I now know I have.
    The ex trainers name is doing the rounds……he will struggle to get a dog anywhere in this country.
    The Internet can be a wonderful thing 🙂

  47. Dublingunner says:

    Afternoon, I voted ok, there was no problems, Rico. I suppose the difference in why we don,t do as well at home, could be down to the fact among others that when teams come to the emirates, their set up to soak up pressure, then hit us on the break, which just doesn,t suit our high line style of play, and the lack of pace from Merts, Arteta etc,just adds to it, we just get punished time and time again, in comparison to the away games, we seem to have more freedom, because the home sides are more adventurous and open, but maybe we need to take a different approach , in games where were ahead by a single goal or two, instead of pushing up and trying to increase the goal tally, we should go back to doing what we were once renowned for and close the game out. Perfect example, if we,d of sat back and put men behind the ball when the Ox scored against Monaco, who knows how far we could of gone in that trophy.

  49. bondex says:

    Afternoon Rico and the house thanks for the thought provoking post. IMHO I’d rather strive to be like Barcelona, playing fancy football all the way, entertaining the fans and winning trophies . I wish we could get to that next level where boring football is impossible for us….

  50. Canadian Gooner says:

    BJ – Enjoy your concert and the game.

    I’m off for the night. Have a great day all.

    Keep The Faith!

  51. tsgh says:

    Very interesting read Rico. I enjoyed reading that.

    Performance for me all day…

    My 2 cents….

    In my view, our early season form had little to do with injuries per se but more to do with AW insisting on relying on our better players of 6 or 8 carrying the whole team; i.e squad fatigue resulting in fatigue.

    This has always been AW’s achilles heel in his managerial career imho; If we are to cast our minds back to the first 8 years of AW’s reign, there has been systematic portrayal of poor early season form immediately after a major national team tournament (Europe, World Cup). 1999, 2001, 2003, 2005.
    In 2001 the addition of Sol and the revelation of Kolo Toure plus the goal threat of TH14, Kanu ensured that we were able to recover from a mediocre early start.

    In 2003, TH14, Pires, PV04,Sol etc who were the core of our squad were eliminated after 3 games in that WC in Seoul/japan.

    In my view our team can be categorised as having 7 grade ‘A’ players (OG12, Sanchez, Kosser, Per, Ramsey, Ozil, Santi); whilst Chelsea imho, have 11+ grade A players. The grade A players in my view differentiate the UCL qualifying teams from the likes of Everton, Swansea etc. who finish in the UEFA cup places. The more grade A (so called world class) players a team has the more likely they are able to cope with injuries and suspensions.

    To surmise, we have had a relatively smaller squad over the years(when compared to our rivals) and so a drop in form by our better players due to the better players’ engagement with their national teams over the summer ‘incapacitates’ the whole squad.

    Until AW adds 2 or 3 other grade a players to the squad we will continue to only be able to ‘fight’ on 1 frontier at a time instead of 3 like Yanited and Chelsea have done in the past.

    Next season unless our new Dr. intervenes, Sanchez would have gotten his full Arsenal DNA and will be due an injury if history is to repeat itself; factor in his involvement with Chile where he and chile will be projected to at least make the semi’s, we will need the likes of Theo to step up from August to November in terms of goals imho…

  57. tsgh says:

    Further to my ‘observation’ on our relative poor start after major tournaments, 2011 and 2013 are other examples with similar poor start even though we only had Sc19 and Per who went past the quarter finals. As we know SC19 hardly played for spain;
    however in the 2012-13,2013-2014 seasons where we started very well our better players the season before RvP, Arteta, Ramsay had either left us or were the start of the subsequent season or were not involved in the tournaments; plus france and England flopped again and so the likes of Sagna, OG12 were relatively fresh…

  59. potter says:

    Comparing football with entertainment and points is interesting. As you know I have watched this game an awful long time and some of the most enjoyable times have been watching players like Bobby Moore , Franco Baresi , Paulo Maldini , and Tony Adams . All defenders . Television has seduced the public in it’s attempts to gain a greater audience that attacking is the be all and end all of the game . Truth is that it’s a two way street , without great keepers and defenders you can’t appreciate a good attacker.
    My personal preference is to get the points with a swagger and with style . However if the game becomes one of pure attrition I will take 1-0 and three points every time.

  60. allezkev says:

    Ginge, not sure about how well Higuaine has or has not played in Serie A as I haven’t really followed that league closely since when Platt and Bergkamp played there.

    So a long time ago…

    But scoring goals in Italian football, is still the most difficult anywhere in the world.
    So 16 or 17 goals in Serie A is arguably the same as 25/ 30 goals scored in La Liga, the Bundesliga or the EPL…

    I don’t know anything about his injuries, but if he had Shad looking after him then those injuries could become a thing of the past?

    We used to have a very good striker, who never ‘turned up’ or scored in major games.

    His name was Thierry Henry…

    And he was quite good… 😉

  69. Wavy says:

    He will be guilty as charged! He has jumped before they cuffed him but, he will be cuffed, mark my words. I reckon he has spent the last few days standing cover a red hot shredder! We’ll see all sooner rather than later. Let us just hope who ever stands and is democratically elected in the future cleans the whole wretched mess up and we have an authority that has the integrity and honesty that such a powerful body must have to operate fairly, efficiently and without taint.

    He’s fallen on his sword and about time too. The king is indeed dead but he is not yet buried!

  70. rico says:

    I reckon you are spot on Wavy.. Twitchy bum time for Blatter! If he was squeaky clean he would not have resigned….

  71. Joe says:

    I’d say your right Rico
    They must be using some very strong products at Liverpool they want Walcott and Gibbs for Sterling. Bloody hell.

  73. potter says:

    But does Wenger really want Sterling or is he spoofing them or is it all newspaper fantasy.

  74. rico says:

    Walcott and Gibbs for Sterling Joe? Not seen that story… I think they’d be plenty if Arsensl fans who would say yes to that.. Not me though.

  79. Joe says:

    Maybe its a deflection policy just like the Higuain transfer saga where we end up with Özil Wenger doesnt want Sterlng it’s somebody else.

  87. eduardo says:

    the espn walcott/gibbs for sterling article is typical contradictory nonsense, they state that Liverpool will only let Sterling go if Walcott and Gibbs come the other way, that they will not take a straight cash deal, then the article goes on to tell us that if AFC don’t agree to the swap that it means Man City will get Sterling in a straight cash deal. So citys cash is acceptable but Arsenal’s is not, you could not make up this sort of transfer bull, oh wait they did.

  92. allezkev says:

    Why on earth are we continually linked to Sterling?
    Anybody would think that he is the next Zinedine Zidane, rather than some average overrated winger come midfielder who looks good because he is currently playing in a shit team…

  96. allezkev says:

    The Scousers are really becoming a sad and deluded bunch, much in the same fashion as the Spuds…

    Everybody knows it, it’s just them and their mate in the Media who haven’t realised that Liverpool are the 21st Century version of Huddersfield Town…

    That’s it you stupid Scousers, it’s all history.

  99. allezkev says:

    Rico, I’m so glad that Rodgers is staying at Anfield…

    Rodgers and Fenway Sports, a partnership made in heaven… 😀

  100. Joe says:

    Just think of it Rico you could have the next world cup in your back garden you’d have to move the chicks. 🙂
    I agree Liverpool seem to be a team in decline in their hayday they where the team with money not anymore.

  106. Drake says:

    Giroud is on his way out!wenger wants benzima according to kike marin and that does not miss when it come to transfers,he even went to say we are really interested in signing the chelsea keeper

  110. allezkev says:

    Drake, I have heard from a friend, that another young midfielder, very promising, who almost left 12 months ago, is also unsettled…

    Something isn’t right inside our Academy.

  117. tsgh says:

    Morning Rico and all…

    Scott are you lurking?

    ”The Scousers are really becoming a sad and deluded bunch” 😀

  122. tsgh says:

    Kev, I know you rate Higuain and Benzema and so what ever I say won’t be convincing to you 🙂

    Although I will be quoting a few ‘data’ to support my point later, I would like to clarify that I do actually watch Serie A quite a bit reason I have been talking about Poldi’s performance or lack of and the likes of Pjanic, Pogba, Gervinho, Paletto and previously Immobile, Pelle’, Stroutman etc.

    On your point that scoring 16 or 17 goals in Serie A equating to 25 or 30 goals here, I hope you don’t mind me saying you are falling for the myth our sports Journo’s who base their knowledge on Motd spout quite often.

    Would you believe that Serie A actually scores goals per game more than La Liga and that even Bundesliga scores more goals than the EPL… another lie touted by clueless Merson and co.

    Going back to Serie A, if it was true that it was harder to score in that league than to score in this league then I wonder why Tevez and Balo’ all scored more goals in this league than they did in Serie A…

    Tevez scored 4 and 11 goals in the 2011 and 2012 season respectively. Albeit he scored 32 goals in all competitions in the 2009 season;At united in only scored 15 goals in 2008.

    In serie A he has scored 20 and 29 goals respectively.

    Balo’ scored 16 goals in an average AC Milan squad 2 seasons ago but scored 1 goal the past season; 4 goals in total…

    Moreover, as I said when we were being linked to Higuain heavily before he left RM and we signed Ozil…’ if AW signed Higuain then I would eat humble pie…. 😉

    From what I have heard, AW has not been interested in Higuain the same way fans rate Higuain; otherwise AW would have made a bid for him as he was going far cheaper than Ozil….

    Same can be said about Benzema; when I said that for Benzema to join us OG12 would have to go in the past, it was argued it was bs as fans wanted a pairing of OG12 and Benzema. But the 2 players have never gotten on like that…

  123. tsgh says:

    ”Tevez and Balo’ all scored more goals in this league than they did in Serie A…
    should read they scored more goals in Serie A than in this league*

  124. Joe says:

    Morning all, Tsgh I see you are keeping your word about no stats i see you have moved on to data to get around this ill advised promise. 🙂

  125. Wath says:

    Morning u lot….

    Ts, no stats your on a 2 month ban lol…. That means “data” as well

    Think the days of Italian defenses being that tight and mean are long gone, yes the top teams are still good defensively but the rest are average.

    I don’t mind Hig but think he’s lazy and not really an upgrade and i’ve never liked Benz he also lazy in my book. I’d far rather Aguerro please lol

    Seems the papers flavour of the month today is Kondogbia… another yes please to him as well plus Cech.

  126. tsgh says:

    Morning Wath…

    Using ‘data’ was my attempt at evading the filter. 🙂

    I totally agree with you there;
    If we consider veteran Di Natali at 37 y.o scored 14 goals in 33 games last season and was involved in 38% of udinese’s goals either by scoring or assisting whilst Higuain at 27 y.o was subbed off more often than any striker other striker last season…;
    nonetheless a very prolific striker whose stats look very impressive on paper. In my view he does not get involved in the game enough for AW to like him that much…
    Put bluntly he is lazy and we will be back to playing 9 or 10 v 1.

  131. Joe says:

    The info helps down the pub.
    It looks like stats and data have been banned you can move on to information. 😉

  134. Wath says:

    The only figures allowed are 36/24/36 although am sure the lady of the house will ban them…!

    Norti Cristiano…!

  136. Joe says:

    Ronaldo piss’s in the street and Jack says sh*t twice I think i’av done that ocational nice to see they are human. 🙂

  138. Wavy says:

    It used to be legal to weeeee on the rear offside wheel of ones carriage! In times of great desperation! Weeeeee’ve all done it sometime or another, well not the wife of course, but it’s a man thing!
    Ronaldinho we’re very expensive on the ‘ppen market’!

    Morning all. These days I prefer the familiarity of my own lavatory, but needs must………?

    Aguero or his equally talented ‘twin’ brother will do for me. Don’t bother with any very expensive duds, they will do us little good and may really piss off the rest of the team. Up front we “have enough”.
    Further back we could do with a couple of new super talented faces.

  139. Wavy says:

    Ronaldo not the Brazilian! And it should read, open

    How come my iPad corrects that which doesn’t need correcting but doesn’t correct what is obviously a. Typo? It’s a crap machine!

  141. Hell Raising Devil says:

    Ronaldo caught peeing. 😆 Lmfao

    I used to do that when I was a kid. behind cars, trees, corners anywhere and everywhere.

    Once I even did it out of the window while the bus was moving. that was way back when I was a teenager. lol

    Good Morning Lovelies and Hunkies.

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