Is there Nou Hope???

Here we go then......

The past two weeks have not been the best for us gooners. In the CC final we were expected to win but our players froze in the occasion and pressed the self destruct button. It was a difficult pill to swallow. Against Sunderland we were dire to say the least and no matter what complaints we have regarding the officiating we did not exactly give a good account of ourselves. Our best players are almost predictably visiting the sick bay during squeaky bum time. We are so close to winning the PL and most fans I know would rather we get knocked out of the CL now and give our best to win the league.

This may be true because we’ll reserve our best players for the title run in. However a big defeat at the Camp nou 3 days before visiting Old Trafford would suck our confidence dry and we may implode giving you a sense of de ja vu. I’m sure the boss is of the latter view and will pull out all stops to win the tie. This was billed as a critical week in our season. We have failed to clear the first huddle by failing to beat the mackems. The next huddle awaits us in Spain. Beating Barca would give us confidence and momentum to go to the mancs at the weekend. It would galvanize us similar to how winning that shootout against Roma in 08/09 helped us reclaim fourth place.

Even the most optimistic fan will be fearing the worst for tonight’s clash. Under Guardiola Barca have never won a first leg away tie in the knock out stages of the CL. In the 2nd leg ties they usually are off the blocks early tearing apart teams in half an hour. The likes of Bayern were battered 4 goals within half an hour effectively killing off the tie. This has created a reputation that has made teams fear them. Teams go there and park the bus to limit the damage but it seldom works. Once Barca break through the resistance the visiting teams normally receive a hiding. Inter and Rubin are exceptions but inter had started that game playing with a high line with three forwards but due to Motta’s red card they hard to change tactics. They had a 2 goal lead to defend to defend unlike us and despite progressing they still lost that game 1 nil.

We have our work cut out tonight. Due to the away goals rule if we score 1 goal they will need 3 to progress. Score 2 and they’ll need 4 goals. The longer we frustrate them the more they will start to panic. They will over commit men forward leaving acres of space in behind and it is for this reason that we’ll miss Theo Walcott. Arshavin and Nasri are no slouches either but Theo’s raw pace would have been very useful.

In order to counter attack properly we’ll need to win the ball back first. We’ll need to stay compact in the middle stifling messi/xavi/iniesta of any space. This will force them wide and with JD against their small forwards we’ll be able to deal with crosses. When we have the ball Barca will swarm all over us like a pack of wolves. During this phase of pressure they use 5-6 players. They’ll chase after the ball and if they don’t win it back after 5 or so passes they retreat and lure you to attack them.

It is in this phase of play that they win most of their games.

Defenders hate marking space and therefore they’ll be caught in two minds of whether to push up and hold a high offside line or stay back. This indecision allows the likes of Villa and Pedro to break the offside trap easily into space in behind the defense and as a result teams get torn apart. Clichy in the past few games has been suspect to this and it may prove costly if he repeats that error tonight. Our defensive unit has to work flawlessly as any indecision will be punished.

To overcome this we have to play quick and direct passes to prevent them from re-grouping. At the Emirates Jack’s one touch pass took out 4 of their players and as a result we had acres of space to counter into. We have Bendtner and Chamakh in the team; why not use their aerial ability? We are not known for playing the long balls but we may have to. Surprise them a bit and they won’t see it coming. No room for tiki taka tonight. Direct football is the only way forward. Play this way and they’ll get rattled.

I may discuss tactics all I like but there are more crucial factors that will decide the tie. AW said the players were scared of playing at Wembley. The Camp nou is even more intimidating. Its 90000 capacity full of passionate Catalonians will make for an intimidating atmosphere. Several of our players have not played there including our captain. Can they handle it? We also have to want it more than them. Our so-called ‘senior players’ should take a leaf out of Jack’s book. His grit, drive and desire should be emulated if we are to stand a chance.

Let’s hope our payers give their all tonight. If they do that we’ll applaud them off the pitch. We need to avoid a big defeat that may lead to Sky shoving ‘Playstation Messi’mantra to another level. We don’t want to see our demolition set on a loop by Sky for another year. I know it’s hard to be optimistic but if there is even a 1 in a million chance we have to keep the faith. Our team won at the Bernabeu with the likes of Senderos in it. We were underdogs then but we beat the odds. We have several of such victories when we expected the worst. It’s not impossible fellow gooners, football is a funny old game and who knows what will happen tonight?

One thing is for sure; strap your safety belts as we may be in for a bumpy ride. Have your doctors on speed dial as we may have several heart stopping moments tonight.

COYR!

Written by K-TR7

214 thoughts on “Is there Nou Hope???

  1. rico says:

    Morning all

    good read KT – can’t wait for the match, we have nothing to lose tonight so lets go there and win 🙂

  2. W.A.T.H says:

    Nice post KT, right I’m off to start on the GG so by kick off I am numb and a 3-0 drubbing doesn’t bother me…!

  3. Osi says:

    The most important factor to winning is not fearing Barca and allow them time to pass freely. The high line is useful tactic if not dismantled by a HIGH Clichy.

    Also important are the set-pieces, with Cham & Bendt in the team we need to cross the ball into the penalty whenever our full backs go up. Barca players are usually in the middle of the park as they pressure so any counter-attack must be conducted from the our full back and wingers like Nasri, Arshaving who can cross. Barca usually in counter-attacking situations have two or three defenders in the penalty area so that would make our crosses aim better.

    We cannot play like the other game in counter-attacking situation if Van Persie is not playing. VP can profit from quick passing on the floor by beating his man and unleashing his fierce shots, but neither bendt nor chamack can match that. So we have to play to their strenghts.

  4. Steve Palmer says:

    Morning all,
    Tip top wrrte up KT,
    Although a detailed post, i get the impression you dont fancy our chances, my way of thinking is that this is exactly the type of game were likely to win, i know they are not a bad side and their playing at home in front of a few hundred fans but i still fancy us to go there and kick their arses, yeh our form has not been great and we have one or two tossers but i still fancy us, yeh they have Messi Iniesta Villa but we have Bentner Eboue Denilson, and i still fancy our chances, i’m a man of vision and i visulise a win for us i dont know how or how many but a win is on the cards no doubt about it, but still a good read.

  5. K-TR7 says:

    Hi wath/osi.Good points osi.we should take advantage of set pieces.barca is the shortest team in Europe with an average height of 177cm.

  6. K-TR7 says:

    Hi steve.i wrote this post on Sunday after a disappointing 2 weeks.rvp has certainly boosted our chances and i truly now believe we’ll give it our best shot.

  7. GunnerPete says:

    I hate to say it but I think our only chance now Song is out too is for AW to shock everyone and pick our strongest defensive team.

    I would love to start the game with
    Chesney
    Sagna Djourou Kossy Clichy

    Eboue Diaby Gibbs
    Cesc Wilshire
    RVP

    Subs: Almunia Nasri Arsharvin Bentner Chamakh Miquel

  8. Osi says:

    K-TRY7 I have mixed feeling about Van Persi return he definitely is great player and difference maker, however, a half fit VP cannot play a highly intensive game like this. Also I think we think Chamack starting and focus on crossing and strong defence we can do ok. What I cannot stand is VP starting that game and getting injured again and miss on other more important league games. I think we the best chance ever since I can remember to win the league title So for me I sacrifice this game and rest VP for the title run-in.

  9. Steve Palmer says:

    Osi, never give up on any chance of winning cups Van the man was injured early on and we kept going if he gets injured he gets injured we will just have to replace him with some one else this is the Champions League

  10. W.A.T.H says:

    Spot on Gunnerpete although Nasri for Diaby for me and Chamakh up front for an hour and told to leave his heart n soul on the pitch and then RVP to replace him with half an hour to go…! That team would cause them problems defend the channels and have the quality in the middle to deny them space, chances of wenger trying to pick a team to get a result though are zero…! So it’s not gonna happen.

  11. K-TR7 says:

    Osi rvp has only been out for 1 week therefore i don’t think fitness will be a problem.rvp also has the ability to score a goal out of nothing and we may need that.AW has said PL is priority and rvp won’t play unless he is 100%.i also think he wasn’t seriously injured as we were made to believe.

  12. Steve Palmer says:

    I would like to see Robin and Chammy left on the halfway line and as soon as we get the ball punt and run.

  13. Steve Palmer says:

    KT 11 against 11 we wont beat them at passing and we can’t defend them off we have to score, if we score first they will go potty

  14. Steve Palmer says:

    The thing that beats all teams, is fast forward attacks, even the great Barcelona couldnt handle that. We scored to amazeing goals against them like that, and they couldnt stop it, we all seem shit scared of them, i bet they are not relishing our visit either.

  15. K-TR7 says:

    Guardiola said they have ‘many wilsheres’ in their B team.fair enough.what irks me is the way he implied that jack only plays because we aren’t in a hurry to win titles.its unfair on jack who fought for his place to prevent the boss from buying a midfielder.i really respect Guardiola but if he meant to devalue jack it would really be a classless act.maybe thats why the likes of Jon toral harper/cesc/merida all left as we give a player a chance if he is good enough.if they had many wilsheres why are the continously tapping up cesc?…one thing is for sure;we have got under Guardiola’s skin.he didn’t like rvp’s surprise and he knows we have the ability to score away goals.

  16. K-TR7 says:

    Erick we may not have theo’s pace today but in order to execute a quick counter you also need quick thinking players.

  17. Steve Palmer says:

    I cast my eyes over the other posts this morning, and i noticed that Pep G has quite alot to say about us, that means he feels a bit edgy, after tonight he’ll need a holiday, and he will have time to have one.

  18. Osi says:

    K-TR7 I think people of the media are reading too much into this story of Guardiola. I was disappointed in his words when I first heard but then I thought and looked that the Barca first team and thought Wilshere couldn’t get in that team. Who would he replace Xabi, Busquets, Iniesta can’t see that happening.

    There’s also a guy in the Barca B team, I don’t remember his name, who’s hugely talented as Wilshere if not better. That’s not disrespect to Wilshere, for me, what was more disrespectful from Guardiola is that he’s typifying Arsenal as an amateur club with no pressure to win anything. Thats false there’s huge pressure on Wenger at the moment to win something than ever before, and Wenger wouldn’t gamble to start Wilshere if he’s not good enough.

  19. K-TR7 says:

    Steve barca may not admit it but they would not have wanted to face us.they are under pressure to win the tie.little is expected of us despite our advantage.Aw did a fast one on them.we know who will start for them.Guardiola likes to know every little detail of his opponents but he doesn’t have a clue of how we’ll play or who will start.it has put them on the edge and if we score first it will be game on.

  20. Osi says:

    K-TR7 SAID:

    “Erick we may not have theo’s pace today but in order to execute a quick counter you also need quick thinking players.”

    Totally agree with that. A good example of that is the textbook intelligent counter-attack against Barca themselves, that saw Nasri got behind them and then stopped and looked around to pick Arshavin. I thought Theo would never pick Arshavin.

  21. Steve Palmer says:

    Osi, take no notice of all that crap, all his trying to do is Mind games like Mourinho, his lost one game to us and his shitting himself that it will be twice, imagine the media interviews he would have, trying to explain, his shitting himself no doubt about it, and its going to happen.

  22. K-TR7 says:

    Osi thats exactly what i meant.if Guardiola had developed a cocky attitude it may come back to haunt him.he is a classy guy but his comments were disappointing.

  23. Steve Palmer says:

    KT watching him at the Ems, he was twitchy and looked uncomfortable,he walked off with the hump, and he’ll feel it again tonight, bye bye Pep

  24. Steve Palmer says:

    Neither I’d shoot the pair of them. Gibbs Miquel, i know they are not midfielders but nor are the other two

  25. K-TR7 says:

    AA is the perfect counter attacking player as his decision making in the final third is always spot on.he also has the advantage of good acceleration,excellent balance and dexterity of both feet.i remember him tear the dutch a new one in extra time at Euro08.if we’re still in it by the 70th minute we’ll have a very good chance.

  26. Osi says:

    “Osi are you referring to Thiago Alcantara/Jonathan dos santos/Nolito?”

    Yes that’s the name. That guy is hugely talented and couldhave got into our team.

    There’s one thing that people miss about Wilshere; his determination to win the ball which is Barca-esque, his tackling abilities, his leadership, yes leadership. I remember in the game against Barca Arsenal players , cesc, Nasri, VP were all looking like confused and beaten, but he just decided to fight fight and HE was the real winner that day.

  27. Osi says:

    When I read comments like “I expect us to get battered.”, I really got scared Coz I know that it can be true. Please stop scaring us.

  28. oliver says:

    morning all…great analysis k…we’ll see how it goes tonight. regardless of the result, i think our players will give an excellent account of themselves. this will be difficult, but not impossible and we just need to relax, play our game, and play smart and responsible…

    no big deal for me about pep’s comments. i don’t think he was taking a pop at jack – if he was, he is a fool, as jack more than held his own against barca’s superstar midfield in the first leg. and regarding the pressure to win, perhaps that was more a reference to mourinho’s arrival in madrid and how the pressure to finish ahead of them is more intense than it has been recently – and it is always pretty high. only he knows what he really meant with his comments, but for me it is no big deal…arsene didn’t seem to be too bothered either, i note…

  29. Steve Palmer says:

    Our team is a bit Jeckal and hyde, you never know what your going to get, plus they dont like a lot of this six or seven player changes, we never seem to do well with that approach. i believe they like things settled and they feel comfortable, i know a big squad is helpfull for injuries, but its easier to accomodate one or two players, than the whole team.

  30. K-TR7 says:

    Barca players are treating this like a final.you can be sure they’ll be up for it.i expect them to swarm all over us in the first 20 minutes.we’ll have to weather that storm.JD and kozzer have only conceded 0.29 goals a game in the league compared to 0.64 goals a game by rio/vidic partnership.sagna is back from suspension.my only worry is how clichy loses concentration at vital moments playing forwards onside.villa and pedro will look to play on the shoulder of the last defender and thats why we need our defensive unit to be on the same wavelength tonight.communication as JD said is vital in order to keep them at bay.

  31. K-TR7 says:

    Rvp passed his fitness test this morning.its now up to Aw to decide if he’ll start or be a substitute.

  32. Osi says:

    Can’t the kick-off, hours look like days. I’m bit scared, optimistic, apprehensive. What would be the consequences if we play VP, Cesc, loose and end up with injured VP and Cesc, and a looming match against Red Evils.

  33. Osi says:

    Spanish Media Are Panicking just like Barca Players. I think we have that fear factor this around. Once you can hurt an opponent you’re more likely to hurt them.

  34. Steve Palmer says:

    Their worried about us thats for sure they are not looking forward to this i know, a weakened team once a 10 man team, and a reasonable squad and they lose yep their worried

  35. Steve Palmer says:

    Will if they both last for Ninety minutes i would be supprised but if they do damage in the time there on i would be very happy, i am not like you Will, you look forwards which is very commendable, me i look at one game at a time, i am pretty sure Robin is not fully fit and the same goes with Cesc but it means something to them and thats the spirit i want to see, its within our grasp and i say lets grasp it

  36. Osi says:

    I want tonight:

    Chamack to shoot

    Nasri to dribble

    Diaby to Pass

    Clichy to understand more about offside rule

    Sagna to cross

    Arshavin to hold onto the ball

    Cesc not to look for a killer ball every time he gets the ball as the ball come back quick when he misplace his passes.

    The team to sometimes get hold of possession, pass around and suck the pressure.

  37. Will says:

    I am just thinking Steve, they both start, the both break down and then we waste two subs which may be needed later on in the game if we have run ourselves stupid.

  38. K-TR7 says:

    Will who is to say they won’t break down at OT?lets take it 1 game at a time.if they are available use them.

  39. Steve Palmer says:

    Tell you the truth Will, i wasn’t expecting either of them to make it and i still gave us a chance, i feel even better with them both in, and i think and hope they are both proffesional enough to bow out if they didnt think they could compete, after all they are supposedly the best team in the world, and the afore mentioned players are two of the most experienced we have.

  40. K-TR7 says:

    Osi against sunderland nasri almost scored a goal from a porto-esque mazy run.lets hope nasri is ready to dance tonight.

  41. Osi says:

    The Egyptian Revolution is complete: people have just got rid of the most brutal National Security Apparatus that specialised in torturing innocents citizens of Egypt. These security agents wanted to burn all documents that would incriminate them and their masters who were toppled by people. All corrupted former ministers of the infamous MUBARAK have just got banned from traveling abroad. What a Revolution.

    But tonight we will see IF WE can beat the system of corrupted Barca team who tortured us so long. We already managed to do in the first game, but tonight we should BURN a la Egyptian people all their remaining papers or players and their manager.

    We will complete our REVOLUTION against Barca.

  42. Will says:

    You are not getting my point. It is not about losing them, it is about having to waste two subs that might be needed during the last 10 minutes if players have run themselves ragged.

  43. Osi says:

    K-TR7, The guy is unbelievable dribble especially in tight areas but he doesn’t do so often. I mean it is not unwise to dribble in their half and have more ambition. I don’t think they have super defenders who can stop you and they also don’t defend in numbers especially in counter-attacking situation.

  44. K-TR7 says:

    One of the main reasons messi ran riot last season was our midfield.we played a 4-3-3 with diaby and nasri infront of denilson.when we pressed barca it was almost like a 4-1-4-1 isolating denilson against messi who toyed with him by moving from side to side.this time we play a double pivot with two holding midfielders which will definitely help limit space for messi to operate in making him less dangerous.

  45. Steve Palmer says:

    Will i get your point, but in The Champions league against Barca we have to pull every rabbit we have out of the hat, if it backfires so be it, but if our team go out there tonight with their heads held high and it didnt happen, but they gave everything i would be proud of them, and say they gave their all, and then i would move on to the weekend and try and get behind them, try and lift their spirits, as Shanks said, Its not life and death, Its more important than that.

  46. Osi says:

    K-TR7 SAID: “One of the main reasons messi ran riot last season was our midfield.we played a 4-3-3 with diaby and nasri infront of denilson.when we pressed barca it was almost like a 4-1-4-1 isolating denilson against messi who toyed with him by moving from side to side”

    I totally agree with, but Almunia was also the reason the score was that big.

    Steve Palmer I, too, will be proud of the team even if they loose provided that they perform to their outmost, fight and give everything they can. But, if they show the same attitudes against Birmingham I will be pissed off, and they should be ashamed of themeselves.

  47. Steve Palmer says:

    Precisly Ozi, i could start throwing things then, and her indoors will do what she normally does and go to bed and leave me to mope

  48. Osi says:

    Is there going to be a match analysis on this site tonight? even if we loose. or Will the the writers be mourning? Any way I’ll come crying here if we loose tonight or just savouring the delight of a rare VICTORY.

  49. K-TR7 says:

    I think it also didn’t help that we had to play with two left footed CBs with one of them being silvestre.vermaelen was also another reason.he tried to stay too tight on messi most of the time.he didn’t choose his moments wisely when to drop deep or push up.as a result he left a huge gap at the back.ibra scored twice at the Emirates due to this.at the camp nou messi’s 3rd goal further exposed this weakness.

  50. Osi says:

    K-TR7 you said”

    “I think it also didn’t help that we had to play with two left footed CBs with one of them being silvestre.”

    You mean two CBs one of them left footed and one of them with not feet at all.

  51. K-TR7 says:

    Arsenal have won 14 out of 15 ties in which they won the 1st leg of the UEFA competitions.the only time we lost is in 2000/2001 when we beat Valencia 2-1 at home only to lose 1 nil away…C’MON BOYS!!!

  52. rico says:

    Sorry KT but for a game like tonight, stats go out the window – i don’t believe in any of that old clap trap today….

    Tonight is all about Wenger playing the best team, the right team to outdo Pep and that means no place for Denilson but I’m sure he’ll play…

  53. rico says:

    Howdy Erick…

    Nowt to lose Will, that’s what I think… Nice early goal for us though and who knows…

    Question is, will Wenger risk RvP from the start or keep him for a ‘just in case’…

  54. Will says:

    I would have him as sub and I would have the guys pumped up to go straight from the start.

    I say now that is in the first 5 minutes, our passing is not working, we will lose the game.

  55. Steve Palmer says:

    I dont expect any upsets 2.1 to us, we have the best league in the world i expect to see why

  56. K-TR7 says:

    In the 1st leg we contained barca for large parts of the game.we used through pressing whereby we cut off their passing options.we were so compact at times that the distance between rvp and the backline was no more than 25 metres just like Milan under Sacchi.they did however trouble us when messi decided to run with the ball which meant we had to commit to either closing him down or cutting off passing options.this indecision was exactly how they scored their goal.i expect them to run at us more and we’ve got to have a plan in place to combat this.

  57. rico says:

    Will, I would start him, if he’s not ready he should have stayed at home…

    Steve – i’m for a draw, 4-4 😉

  58. JonJon says:

    ive just got home and ive seen the team..all i know is diaby needs to have the game of his life tonight..and im abit miffed to why rosicky is playing but if he finds the form of two years ago then thats a fucking good team weve got out there

  59. K-TR7 says:

    Rosicky is starting because clichy will need help defensively against alves/pedro.he can also tuck in to help cesc and jack.he has been poor but i really hope he has a good game.he also owes us a 30 yard rocket.

  60. K-TR7 says:

    Diaby can be awesome on his day.i guess Aw wants some raw power in there.he also has excellent close control meaning he can draw barca players and if he can release it quickly we can then counter.he can also help at set pieces and he can counter very well with his long strides.

  61. JonJon says:

    top stuff ktr
    the tactics are spot on..
    the fear factor will be a massive hurdle tonight..but we have a lead to protect and we also like a big pitch..
    its all about the first half tonight…
    the longer we frustrate them the more they will leave gaps at the back
    if we go in level or a goal up in at half time then weve got a great chance..but we have to score..

  62. JonJon says:

    yeah u can see why rosicky was picked over aa
    but aa will be our supersub.
    same tactics as the grove…
    lets go get em boys

  63. JonJon says:

    im tempted to go into media lockdown for a few hours..
    i dont want to watch im too nervous im never nervous..

    i just want to turn the telly back on at 11pm and see a 2-2 result 😉

  64. JonJon says:

    diaby concerns everyone rico
    but you know how he is he spends 200 games out injured plays a dodgy game, plays a blinder and then hes injured again
    i hope tonights his blinder
    if we see the best of abou tonight barca wont know whats hit them
    then again if we dont then we are fucked
    so come on diaby pull you finger out of your arse and dont let this side down..

  65. JonJon says:

    barcas defence is shite tonight..
    mascherano never did anything against us when he was at pool either
    we’ll open them up..
    we just need to put some away..
    preferabley early

  66. Steve Palmer says:

    I think this game hinges on the referee’s decisions i hope this swiss guy is srtaight.

  67. JonJon says:

    IF you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
    Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
    And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
    If you can dream – and not make dreams your master;
    If you can think – and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
    And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breathe a word about your loss;
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    ‘ Or walk with Kings – nor lose the common touch,
    if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
    Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
    And – which is more – you’ll be a Man, my son!

  68. JonJon says:

    right this is it
    no retreat no surrender
    no matter win lose or draw go out their give it your all and do us proud..

  69. rico says:

    Cheating dirty Spanish b’stards…..

    No wonder RvP was fuming, so would I be if someone grabbed me around the throat…..

    They should be down to ten now!!!

    And Diaby is crap!!

  70. oliver says:

    what a horrible time to concede the goal…just when i thought we could hold out…what was cesc thinking?

  71. JonJon says:

    ok
    so cesc thinks he plays for them already
    we were holding out well then george graham style until he decided he was going to give the ball to messi
    not out of it yet
    one goal and its back on..
    gotta feeling barca will tire in the last 20 like they did at home and thats what weve been playing for..
    we need to be a little sharper in this half but i think weve played purposely to take the game to them in the second so we just gotta score..

  72. Steve Palmer says:

    Is it against the rules for arsenal to put in a tackle or what, they obstruct us on every forward move and we get nothing, the linesman flags and the ref plays on until he gives a card to kos, i dont mind us not winning but play fair

  73. oliver says:

    if nothing else, it is following the pattern of the first leg – and first leg from last year. go behind and then have a real go…

    we have to settle down, keep the ball and try and attack them. very little of that in the first half. the timing of the goal was absolutely brutal, as i thought barca were rushing things and getting frustrated. and to defend so hard under such pressure, and see our captain undo everything and gift it to them on a platter…

  74. JonJon says:

    we got away with a clear pen shout steve
    diaby on messi
    ref was right there and he gave nothing..

  75. JonJon says:

    the situation doesnt change we all know we needed an away goal and if we get it we can win if we defend the same way…
    the plan was to hold barca until they tire and then aa comes on and we go for the away goal
    messis goal doesnt change anything we will still go after the goal we just need to defend like we did in the first half up until 70mins and then go after them

  76. JonJon says:

    george graham style defending will
    was doing ok until cesc passed the ball to messi with a minute left of the half to play

  77. W.A.T.H says:

    No passion no fight no commitment and no intent, says something when a 19yr old shows most up for actually looking like he’s interested. Losing is one thing but least show up and give em a game….!

  78. JonJon says:

    thats disgustin
    like your supposed to hear the whistle in the nou camp
    hes a striker they shoot
    ffs

  79. oliver says:

    game off? that was absurd from robin – the ref may be poor, but he has to be smarter than this…he had already been booked…

  80. oliver says:

    30 minutes to hang on…just like the situation in the first half, except that we have an away goal and they have to score two…one just gets them extra time if we do not score another…

  81. W.A.T.H says:

    Whats the use of Cesc being on the pitch pls mr wenger…? obviously not fit strolling around giving the ball to his mates so we playing with 9 v 12…! total stupidity…! going out without even a whimper…!

  82. oliver says:

    we’ll see what we are made of. we can either accept this without a whimper, or go for it and try and score another goal…if we can get it to 4-4 aggregate, and it stays that way, we will go through…

  83. oliver says:

    so that is that for another season…barca were better on the night, we barely had a sniff…perhaps we could have held on, but our captain and vice captain both imploded – tough to beat a side like barcelona when we are inflicting such wounds on ourselves…

  84. W.A.T.H says:

    Don’t just blame the ref JJ we were fuckin awful…! Not good enough simple as that and the lack of effort yet again was totally unacceptable. Why play Cesc who was clearly not fit?. Another wenger masterstroke. played like we were just waiting to get beat and if it wasnt for the spanish waiter it would of been ten…!

  85. Steve Palmer says:

    That is one of the most disgusting displays of refereeing i have ever witnessed i knew we would have a man sent off as soon as we scored and the referee couldnt wait we must appeal

  86. oliver says:

    i agree with wath and k…busacca did us no favors, but we imploded when the going got tough…did we really think we were going to get any change here at camp nou?

    the scoreline could have been embarrassing if not for al…we did not have a single shot on goal, and when nik had his one instant to be the hero, he froze and didn’t even force a save…

  87. JonJon says:

    fuck the cl anyway
    thank fuck its over now we can concentrate on the trophy we do have a chance of winning…
    and robins back so its on…
    bollox to the cl its a fucking circus..nothing but a distraction..

  88. Steve Palmer says:

    I cant understand your mentality our boys played there hearts out, they were fcuked played with ten men for half the game and you slag off the players this game was fixed before the start, they can’t beat us with a full team

  89. K-TR7 says:

    4-3 looks better than 6-3 but i was really impressed by the way we defended.kudos to that.now lets make the mancs chase the ball on Saturday.

  90. JonJon says:

    i aint just blaming the ref wath
    but how does anyone get passed barca in the nou camp??
    they sit back and defend..
    we did no different and it was working just fine until the ref sent robin off for shooting..
    we didnt play like we normally do but it was no different to how chelsea, inter and anyone who else goes there plays…

  91. JonJon says:

    most of them shots came after robin was gone..
    how you supposed to defend v barca in the nou camp with 10 men..

  92. JonJon says:

    im not bothered anyway im going off the cl everytime we play in it it becomes a fucking circus..
    total distraction..
    its nice to be in it but as soon as the big teams come to town it puts our season in turmoil..
    our boys have been concentrating on barca for the last month and we have dipped..
    back to business at the weekend..

  93. K-TR7 says:

    JJ it was a tough ask.there was only 1 second between rvp shooting and the ref blowing the whistle.it was also very noisy and Aw has a right to be furious.

  94. JonJon says:

    it was a riduculous call
    we were up against it as it was but we were holding out and that decsion just killed the whole thing

  95. K-TR7 says:

    Barca barely troubled us in the 1st half.that sending off gave us no outlet and disrupted our pressing game.lets win the league first.we’ll go after the CL next year as champions of our own country.

  96. oliver says:

    nobody is slagging anyone off. busacca could have – and should have – given robin the benefit of the doubt – but he didn’t. as much as i hate it and how it changed the game, i am pretty sure that he was within his rights to award the card once robin kicked the ball after the whistle went. i think he should have considered the stakes and given our player the benefit of the doubt, but he didn’t…

    busacca had nothing to do with cesc’s suicidal backheel – which undid all our desparate defending. al saved us from further humiliation…

    if you see it as us losing only because of the ref, that is your opinion. my opinion is that he gave us no favors, but we were outplayed and barca were the better side tonight.

  97. agirlagunner says:

    We’d have done enough 11 v. 11. That decision cost us. That backheel flick from Cesc was painful though.

  98. JonJon says:

    its the league all the way ktr
    it was the case before this freak show..im sick of the CL its a lottery the league is where its at and now we can concentrate on it..
    let the mancs and chelsea worry about the extra games we can finally have a weeks rest between games from now until may…

  99. K-TR7 says:

    JJ we have an excellent defense.you can see why with JD/kos we have conceded only 0.29 goals a game in the league compared to 0.54 by rio/vidic.

  100. Steve Palmer says:

    I said before the game it was going to be down to a referree’s decision, how blatent can it be, would messi had been sent off, never in a blue moon. football is fixed i hate to say it but its true even the pundits didnt want to talk about it they just wanted to talk about how great Barca was their realy great against ten men ten against twelve fffing cheats

  101. JonJon says:

    we defended like demons ktr..
    we were winning the tie
    we were being outplayed easily but we werent being broken down..
    until robin got sent of for shooting, infront of 110000 screaming ppl, with the ref 50 yards away, one second after the whistle blew
    what a twat…

  102. JonJon says:

    barca were great but most of the shots they had came after robin got sent off..
    fuck it anyway we got beat in the nou camp we always do bollox to it bring the fucking mancs on..

  103. JonJon says:

    yeah diaby was shit..fluffed his lines..
    but cesc didnt turn up either..
    we got fucked in midfield
    didnt in defense tho..
    or gk..which was a suprise..

  104. DJ says:

    First time visitor to HH – but after that game I now truly beleive that the CL is fixed. But at least Mr Wenger has just spoken to the media unlike that sulky git from Manchester.

  105. Cpt John says:

    So what the hell do we do with Diaby now? I’m done making excuses for him.. At least the likes of Rosicky still show that they want to fight for the team and not mope around admiring the opposition!!!! I mean someone 7 inches shorter than him and 5 years younger than him showed him repeatedly what was required from him and yet nothing!!!!!

  106. Steve Palmer says:

    football is run by the officials the prizes are sorted before the competitions are played no one can convince me its any different Yeh Barca deserve to be called the best, but two games against them with ten men thats a joke

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