If Arsene Wenger stays, he needs to make changes in one area.

Morning all.

Reflecting back on Saturday evenings match against Preston, Arsene Wenger has been talking to the official website:

“We were caught cold in the first half by the enthusiasm of Preston, and their quality as well. You must say it’s a good team. We responded very well and as usual we came back.

“It was important to qualify in a very difficult game and I would have been very disappointed to go out of the competition today because we care about this trophy. We have shown that in the past and we want to stay in this competition.”

I don’t understand this at all. Why would he or the Arsenal players not expect Preston to be enthusiastic or for them not to play well? Would that be because they are a Championship side who aren’t having the best of seasons? Or is it because they don’t have a glut of world class players on show who earn millions of pounds each year? Did he and the team simply believe that they were far superior and the way Arsenal play would be enough to cast aside a northern minnow?

What about his ‘as usual we came back’ comment…?

Well one day and that day won’t be too far away, we won’t come back because fitter, more focused clubs will not only have taken more of the chances they were gifted, but they’ll keep going until the end, defending in a way which we can only dream of. Relying on Arsenal to ‘come back’ when they go a goal or three behind is a really bad tactic.

If we play well from the off yet still conceded then fine if we come back to win the game, especially if we are simply undone by a moment of magic, but this Arsenal team are getting the basics of the game wrong and it’s costing us goals and points.

It’s nothing new either. Different players have come and gone over the years, yet the mistakes, attitude, complacency etc, remain the same. Nothing good is consistent at Arsenal. We see flashes of brilliance here and there but they are few and far between. When did we last string a good run of results and performances together, why do we always concede goals after goals each season, why do we always suffer injuries each season and most of all, why do certain players arrive at the club looking darn good but then their standards drop?

No-one will convince me that Gabriel is the same player who first arrived at the club, Xhaka is nothing like the player we watched in the summer or in Germany and Mustafi, the ever reliable leader at the back has either been rushed back from injury, or he’s caught the ‘mistakes’ bug. Ramsey too, great a couple of seasons ago and at the Euros, yet now he looks like a rabbit in headlights all too often, just as Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain does.

Monreal’s form has dipped as he seems more focused on getting forward rather than defending and similar could be said of Bellerin. Even Coquelin started to forget to do what he does best before getting injured and that’s to defend and protect the back five.

The thought of Arsene Wenger staying for two more years beyond this summer, is to say least, a worrying prospect, but if he does, then I’d suggest he changes his coaching staff, because whatever he’s doing, just isn’t working….

It hasn’t been for years…..

197 thoughts on “If Arsene Wenger stays, he needs to make changes in one area.

  1. potter says:

    I posted this as the new thread went up , but I still see some relevance :-

    I’m not sure about complacency , I think it’s arrogance. It’s Billy big boots time , let them worry about us , after all these years in management I am the font of all knowledge etc.

    Throughout my selling career I have seen companies :- Market leaders Some of you may remember Trico , Champion , Ferodo .Lucas , Smith Industries but they all lost their place at the top and they all had the same attitude as they slid down the slippery pole to obscurity . Wenger is no different , he doesn’t change and he doesn’t react to those that are chasing him and slowly but surely the level of achievement drops . We went through his first period when it was us or United , first or second , then Chelsea and City came along and the target was adjusted to top four, now Liverpool and Spurs have joined the party and the level is being readjusted as we speak.

  2. scottfromoz says:

    Potter, a CEO if a place I worked at years ago was an absolute price, but made one statement I’ll never forget.
    No company ever collapsed because of the staff, the problems always starts at the top-always.
    Wenger is a staff member, but due to reasons we have all discussed a million times, is basically the boss.
    That’s why I’ll remain of the opinion that until Stan leaves, we are treading water, but that complacency form him flows through Wenger down to the playing staff, no question.

  3. Le Coq Monster says:

    Morning all and thanks Rico.

    The thought of Arsene staying two more years is only acceptable if Ozil and Alexis stay…………..and that`s only just !

    Nice comment from Herb early in the morning via Leg Over (LeGrove), although I dont agree with the comment by the blogger or any blogger fan that the EPL is the hardest league to win !…………..it may be for Arsenal, but in the years since we last won won it, it has been quite easy to win the league if your name is Manshafter Std, Mansour City, Chavs and ………..Leicester !. Apart from the anomaly that is the fluke Leicester we all know what the other 3 have in common………….fcuking filthy rich and it doesnt` matter what any of you say, the main reason we have not won the league is because of Kroenke`s lack of investment and until we have owner(s) who dig deep 4th is our level.
    I know and you know that it`s easy to blame Wenger. but any of us on here could have won the EPL with the funds that the big 3 have had. Which one of us couldn`t be a manager of said clubs and told owner who to buy and then delegated the training to an underling.
    Football is not Rocket Science, it`s a game everyone of us has played and just as much as we know what a good player is, we have the uncanny ability which some so called top managers dont have and that`s that we definately know what a shit player is………….I give you Sanogo….sorry Obi……and there`s plenty more we could all name !
    So there you have it in very simple terms…………….spend the most and win the most !.

  4. rico says:

    If John Lewis fails in it’s business, or any other top shopping store, it’s not the owner who leaves, it’s the man/women responsible at ground level, ie managers….

    Arsenal are no different. Wenger has a job and he’s failing……

  5. scottfromoz says:

    Rico, I’m yet to see a board or owner sack themselves for hiring the wrong man, but while you think Arsene is failing, Stan doesn’t so again, how can people NOT blame Stan?
    Stan dictates what is success at Arsenal.
    He would have Wenger there forever.

  6. Le Coq Monster says:

    Yes Rico, a great comment which apart from the “hardest league to win ” part I agree too !……………..as I said, how hard has it been for the big 3 to win it ?………………just look at the bindippers, as great a history of winning titles as they have had, without the finances of the “new” era they have struggled and lets be honest, they before ManU…… were the most succesful club !………………..any club in the pyramid could have won trophies given the money the Mansours have invested……take note there Kroenke, I just said …invested !

  7. Le Coq Monster says:

    You see !…………..it doesn`t matter where on Earth you are….for example, I`m a northern bastard here in Cornwall and the Southern Bastard Scott is hanging upside down directly below me in Oz, yet we both know Kroenke is the real bastard !. hahaha

  8. Adam says:

    Surely Wenger has proved that he is finished as a championship-winning coach. Otherwise he would have won the PL last year (to name but a single season).
    Why didnt he?
    Could it be because he is finished as a championship-winning coach? The only reason I could possibly envisage for him to be offered a contract extension is if the board are absolutely convinced that he will win the PL and/or the CL next year and I can see zero evidence of that. Even when all the other top teams laid down, he still couldn’t do it and I doubt they’ll lay down again anytime soon.

  9. Le Coq Monster says:

    And there lays the answer Rico !……………………………we are the 4th highest wage payers and 4th and just above is where we have been under Kroenkes reign and Wengers management.
    As a self sustaining business Kroenke sees that as good management, we make money, are sponsored to the max and his shares have increased dramatically, why would he take a chance and sack Wenger when he has no idea whether a new manager would keep us at the same level or better or make us worse ?…………………Arsenal are ticking over nicely in Kroenke`s eye`s and all that without putting a single penny into the club !.

  10. Lewis says:

    I wonder how Kroenke will feel if we drop out of the top 4 this season.

    I Honestly think of the top 6 teams we are currently the worst, still time for that to change, but dropping out of the top 4 is the only way I see Wenger being removed.

  11. Marshall says:

    Hi all.
    Am totally bored by the arsenal. Only thing left for me is looking forward for us rotting in mid-table, drop in revenue which will be a pain in Stan’s backside and hope he fires Wenger (leave by mutual consent) and then the syrup cashes in. I know am asking for too much.

  12. Le Coq Monster says:

    Wonder how many trophies Arsene would have won if Uzzy had bought the whole club and invested similar amount or more money like Abramobitch ?……………………….wonder how many managers we would have got through ?………..not that I`m bothered about how many managers we would have got through, `coz, I would be rather counting trophies than managers !………………….unlike our current owners thoughts of being first a successfull business, we the fans think of manager`s ability by the number of trophies they win lately and if they are not winning them, then they are not doing their job and need to be sacked like any other employee who is not up to the task !………………………somewhere in the past there was a line we crossed where we no longer were a football club, but a business !…………………………….Kroenke will never feel like us and I`m sad to say that the Spuds and WHam have owners who feel like their supporters, because they too are supporters………….where did it all go wrong ?………………………..there must have been a day/time when if Arsenal had taken a left or right turn it would have been either Kroenke or Usmanov…………………….shame we didn`t take the right turn !.

  13. scottfromoz says:

    Fair enough, Rico,
    Mediocrity will definitely be par for the course if Stan stays-his others clubs show us that and it won’t matter who the manager is, IMO.
    We are dooooooooomed 🙂
    Anyway, night all.
    Have a great day……

  14. rico says:

    Well, some fans are right behind AW, I just been told off for having my view and not very nicely… 😉

    Needless to say, I binned that comment…

  15. Le Coq Monster says:

    Come on Rico !……………..I thought it was OK to disagree !…………….was it an expletive comment ? 😀 …………….we are behind you, come on show the comment ! 😆

    Right off to muck out the stables, I expect to come back and see your telling off ! hahaha

  16. allezkev says:

    Hi All…

    Wassup Rico, are you upsetting the red hat society….?

    Where’s Lee when we need his eloquence, I bet he’s munching somewhere…..

  17. Alex says:

    Good morning Rico nice post…
    It is a wishful thinking this man will change the back staff…………why he has to do it now ? Arsene to sack his staff ?? No way.

    I ask several time about his assistant and no one look what is look like.
    As far as i see it he is just a mute figure that i do not see any kind of enthusiasm or anything like in him.

    Either way every thing is telling we are much close to the middle table rather than winning any silverware with this regime.Even the game with the Swansea not filled with confidence because physically the team is jaded.

    And that is season after season. Wenger out.

  18. allezkev says:

    Interesting that Ozil says, or is ‘reported’ to have said, and we know that that is hugely unreliable, but has supposedly said that Wengers future is tied up with his own….

    Does that mean if he’s offered £250k per week, but Wenger leaves, that Mesut will also leave?

    And what if a top manager arrives to replace Wenger?
    Would Ozil still leave?
    Because I don’t believe it, I just think the club are putting this out there to deflect attention away from their own responsibility…

    What if Wenger signs but both Ozil and Alexis leave, what then?

  19. rico says:

    🙂 Lc..

    Seems so Kev…

    Thanks Alex.. Morning to you..

    Kev, I can’t believe Ozil has said he’ll only stay if Wenger does…

  20. allezkev says:

    Rico, interesting that Arsene mentioned our recent comebacks, what was it he said ‘as usual we came back’, really?

    What, did he mean how we came back against Everton and Man City…?

    And, why do we need to keep coming back?

  21. Le Coq Monster says:

    “What if Wenger signs but both Ozil and Alexis leave, what then?”……………………..exactly Kev` and dont you know that is the likely outcome !…………………………..I think they call it …….The Doomsday Scenario !

    One thing we can expect and that`s we are likely to be disappointed somewhere down the line…………..I`d bet your hired cab on it ! 🙂

  22. Le Coq Monster says:

    Just see this great news on newsnow, although I have this image in my head of a load of people grinning like The Osmond Family, but not knowing why they are grinning !.

    “An Alzheimer’s drug may encourage tooth regrowth and repair cavities, scientists have found !”

  23. Le Coq Monster says:

    Mucked out stables !……..now down to gym !………………….no wonder Poldark has my photo on his bedside cabinet !. hahaha

  24. Lewis says:

    Arsenes comment before the Bournemouth game set the scene a little I think. He was already making excuses.

    And a good point kev, if Wenger goes but we signed someone like Allegri in his place would ozil or Sanchez not find it appealing to play under a recently successful manager?

  25. Lewis says:

    On the plus side I’m looking forward to seeing a fit and hungry Welbeck back in the side. His power, energy and selfless running has been missed.

  26. Kk says:

    Good afternoon
    Solid post Rico,

    I think Ozil has put himself in deep trouble if what the media has quoted is true.
    Knowing the fans are split to say the least about wenger he would have certainly upset large number of fans ..so things could get ugly and embarrasing if or when he has one of those indifferent performances.

    On other hand if what said is true and not a spin ,could be wenger is seriously thinking of call it a day..I doubt it though. .

    Ifs and buts ..typical Arsenal

  27. frednerk says:

    Afternoon All
    Just had a Gander at some of the comments,
    nearly crashed me car up.

    Amazing.. The Syrup worth Billions is to blame.
    As if he give’s a monkey’s what Wild Bill Hickok
    think’s or Gunnersaurus think’s.
    Spud’s,Chav’s,Manc’s fans think us gooners are mad to mock
    Arsene.

    The Syrup will not go away,or the Brat…Get Real.

    So are we blaming Stan for not sacking Arsene
    or is it Arsene who want’s to wring every dollar
    out of our club,and ignore the abuse and fighting
    that’s been going on with our fan’s.
    We won’t win the league..will we.
    So is it the cup’s that decide if he stay’s?

    So in my opinion Cash is King the Syrup’s
    here to stay..End of.

    Just off to have another Gander at some of the
    comment’s….Ha Ha

  28. tsgh says:

    I know, the sun’s & other rag tops back page headline does not fit the narrative… but Ozil said he signed for Arsenal (in the first place) because of Arsenal in his first interview.

    I know the ‘underperforming’ wenger to Arsenal fans at least does not seem like a big draw but unfortunately it is what it is.

    Its the same in every sports, if you are not deemed to be the Chicago bulls, La Lakers, Antonio Spurs, RM, barca, Redskins, Raiders, Juve etc then you have to pay the outrageous big bucks like the spuds and co do…

  29. Le Coq Monster says:

    So true Rico and spot on .

    Remember when we all wanted Moyes to stay at Manshafter…..or Jol/Ramos/Redknapp/Sherwood to stay at Spuds !……………………..on the opposite, we want Poch` to leave because he is a better coach than Wenger…………..getting more out of his less paid players !.
    Kroenke may not leave, but we dont have to like it and it is less than forward thinking to think he is not at the top of the pile in making a decission if needed to sack Wenger.
    Wenger is exactly what Kroenke loves at this moment in time, he knows what side his bread is buttered…..or what side his syrup is parted !. 🙂

  30. Meerkat says:

    I do actually believe that both Ozil and Sanchez will only consider staying if the money and Le Prof are in place.
    It is Kroenke who needs shooting. Could we have a whip round to raise enough money?

    A couple of seasons mid table, much as it would grieve all us fans, a few anti-Stan demos, and we may get shot if him. He is poisoning the well at Arsenal, season after season, with no interest in football, just money. He has to be gotten rid of.

    I don’t happen to think Arsene is the problem. Because with Stan pulling the financial strings, another less experienced manager could well have fared a lot worse.
    The changes I’d like to see are in his back room staff, starting with Bould.

  31. Herb's Army says:

    Hi Rico and the House.
    You can re-post my comment if you want to Rico, I think it spent the whole of the night in moderation – I removed the ‘permalink’ thing and it’s still happening.
    It’s a bit harsh calling fans of the same club ‘scum’, Scott. Sure they have a few keyboard warriors who go above and beyond, and use language that you wouldn’t want kids reading, but in amongst that are some really intelligent and interesting debates. And deep down we are all unified in wanting what’s best for Arsenal Football Club.
    Your reaction to LG sums up a lot of the Arsenal supporters, far too snobby and elitist, and one of the reasons we’re not as successful historically, as United or Liverpool.
    I agree with you to a degree Cornwall, but I tend to think that Wenger has all the resources he needs to win both the PL and CL, he just isn’t intelligent enough.
    For me, he used Chelsea and City’s new money as the perfect reason to lay down and surrender, and there is no clearer example of this than 2014 and last season.
    He wimped out of the fight at the top end and settles for where we should finish instead of exploring the possibilities of what we could be with some vision, a bit more bravery, and a proper strategic plan.
    Not unlike our unsavoury neighbours in N17, who are out-performing us with a much less spend.

  32. rico says:

    Hi Herb, I really don’t know why your comments are going into moderation, there’s obviously a problem my end…

    I’ll try and copy paste the comment…

  33. rico says:

    Herbs post:

    Hi Rico and the House.
    Personally I’d be happy to see both Wenger and Ozil leave, because whatever their combined abilities and intelligence, it isn’t making the slightest bit of difference where it matters most. We’re not closing the gap on those in the tier above us, and it seems Arsenal spend only to stay at the same level rather than to improve.
    I read this, and for me clarifies exactly where Arsenal are at and the deep-lying issues. Apologies to anyone whose read it already, it was from a poster called ‘Cesc Appeal’ commenting on ‘Le Grove’.
    ‘No-one feels they are entitled to a league title, this is the hardest league in the world to win, and no-one bashes Wenger because he has not managed to do it.
    What Wenger gets bashed for, is that for what looks like twelve years now, Arsenal’s season has fallen apart in exactly the same way – lack of mental-strength, bottling, injuries, lack of preparation, tactical rigidity, no positional awareness, holes in the squad, lack of substantial back-room evolution – Wenger stubbornly holding onto his beliefs and principles, which is fine, except there is no-one at the club to disagree with him when he is wrong, because he has engineered total power in himself.
    There is no other top club out there with the uniformity Arsenal have displayed in their results and how they fell to those results in the last twelve years.
    You can say Wenger is the reason we have high expectations and you’re right, you won’t find anyone who disputes that Wenger was a great manager in his first ten years at the club, just as most acknowledge the great job he did in the first few years moving to the new stadium, when resources were limited to null.
    However, he is now trying to live by the standards of those hard years – ‘fourth is a trophy’, ‘second for the next twenty years would be a great achievement’, ‘financial sustainability is a great achievement’…etc.
    Over the last twelve years the face of this team (playing staff), has changed many times, and yet each of these batches fails in exactly the same way. Why is that? Who is the common denominator?
    People’s problem with Wenger is that the club is not progressing.
    He is not ambitious at all, he waits for success to come to him not vice-versa, and frequently he’s coming across as a bitter old man lamenting the changing of the world.
    If Wenger went out each summer and aggressively brought in talent, and you could see him trying to set up a certain system, changing his coaches to grab the best, most modern ones around (most of ours have been here since the late 90’s early 00’s), and there was a Dein-like figure in the club both helping and challenging him, and we still didn’t win the league, no-one would be so scathing of him’.

    That comment tells me we’re all seeing exactly the same thing, the bigger question is why on earth are we tolerating it?
    The only people who can rescue Arsenal’s footballing soul is the supporters.
    How much do you/we love The Arsenal?

  34. Obi says:

    TS on the previous post I said that I watched Ozil himself on BeinSports said he came to Arsenal because of AW and he almost came to Arsenal before Madrid. He further said Madrid gave him the right to pick where he wanted to go and he picked Arsenal because he want to “work with Mr. Wenger”. Why is that hard to believe for some?

    And yes the blame is with Stan. If we agree that AW has been a failure for 12 years, then Stan should fire him. Not many of us will leave a cushy job paying £8m a year. The man is 70 years old at the same club for 20 years, doesn’t accept input, rigid, slow to react, etc…..smh. Who has Abrahimavich fired that fired himself?

    Things are ok with Stan because all he cares about is TV and licensing money. Ideally they both should go but we all know that Stan is not going nowhere.

  35. frednerk says:

    Two player’s left us years ago.
    both very young(24/25)
    both came through our youth teams
    both were world class at the time
    both were loved by the gooner’s
    both could change a game

    When them two left I nearly got on
    a 253 bus to seven sisters,
    but lucky for me,
    even though I felt like someone had died.
    I thought …no one with half a brain
    could support that load of crap.
    So I moped around feeling like I just scored an own goal.

    Would I feel like that if Ozil/Sanchez left….No
    Why should we care,player’s come and go
    all over the place,
    this is football…………..alway’s has been.

    Only Arsene and Ken Friar have managered to still
    hang around The Arsenal for all this time.

    Nearly forgot….Brady and Charlie George

  36. tsgh says:

    Lol… Fred- I didn’t realise you loved Bendtner that much to get on bus 253. 😛

    Obi- Bremen accepted the same fee for Ozil but RM offered more weekly wages as at that time RM had a dispensation from Spain to waiver certain player taxes…

    Same can be said of Kheira from Vfb Stuggart; before he joined RM

  37. Herb's Army says:

    Cheers Fred, I think a big part of life is that we’re all students and teachers in equal measure, here to learn from each other.
    I remember feeling annoyed at losing Charlie George to…Derby???
    But Bertie Mee had already upset the chemistry of the ‘Double’ team by replacing George Graham with Alan Ball. No doubt ‘Bally’ was a good footballer – part of our World Cup winning XI – but he and Arsenal just weren’t the right fit.
    We were a selling club even back then. Don’t forget another fine youngster we produced, Fred, Ray Kennedy, who was one of Bill Shankly’s best buys. He won us the title at WHL and he was only 19.
    Another was Frank Stapleton, who we sold to United, leaving us without a proper striker. Obviously we ‘converted’ Alan Sunderland, who we signed as a central midfielder from Wolves.
    After watching us lose two finals in four days, Fred, although I recognised Liam Brady’s brilliance, his last act as a player was to miss a penalty in the shoot-out against Valencia, and it seemed to me that he had his heart set on leaving Arsenal, so although it was a loss to us, I can’t say I was upset about it.

  38. tsgh says:

    I am still looking for that cushty job offering preferably offering £8m a year… 😉

    The thing with AW’s salary is that irks some folks; but as they say ‘don’t hate the player, hate the game’.

  39. Herb's Army says:

    As far as I know Rico, there isn’t a ‘herbsarmy.com or at least not one I’m aware of. I’m not too clever with the techy side of things, blogging and the occasional e-mail is the limit of my knowledge, after that I’m lost.

  40. Le Coq Monster says:

    Hahaha Herb…………………If I was to kill Kroenke then Jeff Blockley would be my weapon of choice that way I get to kill two birds with one stone !……….or one Jeff Blockley….you know what I mean !. hahaha

  41. Le Coq Monster says:

    And it goes without saying that some on here would like to flay Wenger whilst using Kroenke as the weapon ! hahaha

  42. Le Coq Monster says:

    Hahaha true Herb………………….the thought of Jeff Blockley wearing flaired crushed velvet trousers and dancing to Sweet`s Fox on the run is quite disturbing whilst worrying arousing ! hahaha

  43. frednerk says:

    New who you meant herb.

    Ts Many a true word spoken in jest.
    But I thought Bendtner would be the sliced bread
    I watched him many times at Barnet for the stiff’s.

  44. allezkev says:

    I only know two Idris’s…

    One is Idris Elba, the actor…

    The other is a soft drink from the 1970’s…

  45. Obi says:

    Rico @ 3:11, don’t he operates and reacts like a very old 67 though? He looks a lot older. Compare him to Greg Popovich of the San Antonio Spurs who is the same age or even Mike Krzysewki (of Duke and USA Basketball) who is 69. Maybe is not the age but AW just don’t have the motivation or the energy anymore for managing.

    Ts @ 3:43, We can’t have it both ways… If as it asserted by many that AW is the “boss” and does everything at Arsenal FC then he’s doing the job of there people: GM, Owner and Manager, albeit not really well at the moment, then he’s under pay, as compared to other top managers….lol.

  46. Herb's Army says:

    True Fred, I just really went off Brady after he left in 1980. He didn’t even come back to us on his return. It annoyed me that Wenger employed him. Much better footballer than coach.

  47. rico says:

    Herb, I’ve checked everything I possibly can but cannot see why you go into moderation every time.

    Big guy too LC, great actor…

  48. allezkev says:

    Looks like Lewisham Council are trying to drive Millwall out of the borough….

    I suppose the thought of all the foreign investment in a load of unaffordable flats built on the site of the New Den is too tempting for the Labour administration..?

  49. allezkev says:

    I never really watched Luther, Rico, but I’ve seen him in other stuff and he’s really very good…

    And the fact that he’s a Gooner is even better. Cheers Cocker

  50. Lee says:

    Do Ozil’s comments mean he wants to know who the next manager is before signing? Or I want Wenger to be the manager? If it’s the latter I’m sure he’ll get his £200k pw and probably never win a major trophy at Arsenal….hardly the fighting mentality of Sanchez!

    Alternatively if a manager comes in that won’t like the fact he disappears up his own arse during our tough games, he’ll be sold…..Is there a plethora of teams that’ll want to pay £40m+ and £200k+ pw for his services? I’m not so sure there is any more.

    I’m so bored of Arsene’s Arsenal, you just know how the season will pan out, again and again. This is with a long overdue injection of £90m worth of players, the constant is Wenger.

    I’m so over Arsenal it’s a fucking joke……

  51. Malaga gooner says:

    Hi Rico and the house

    We can go on about who’s to blame, but the facts are if Wenger did not agree with kroenke , why didn’t he walk away

    I mean he could get a job anywhere he’s that good

  52. rico says:

    Hi Mg, just why I blame the entire lot.. Wenger is happy to take his money but isn’t doing his job particularly well…

    Bit like a few of the players really…

  53. Lee says:

    Hi Kev & Rico, it’s all so tediously predictable yet again isn’t it? I was in the pub on Saturday and the game was on I hardly gave it any attention at all…..left before the final whistle and just read the reports the next day, same old bollocks blah fucking blah!

  54. Lee says:

    No Rico, hopefully he’ll piss off with Wenger!
    Super super player when it’s against shit teams, how many blinders has he had against anyone half decent?

  55. tsgh says:

    AW is not that bad- How much should one charge to embarrass themselves with their zippers? 🙂

    I see Uber is preying on passengers misery…

    I see the unions have looked bad whilst the laissez faire capitalist have won against…

  56. Lee says:

    Brudder Stan should have a go, can’t be any worse than Wenger….

    Elneny’s last game for us before he pisses off to Africa, Wenger substituted him for Coq on 71m what the fuck is that about?

    Where’s Spectrum? ?

  57. Lee says:

    Conte 5 points clear in PL looking at players, Wenger in 5th position, what do we think he’ll do?
    Welbeck a new signing?

    Tedious.

  58. Le Coq Monster says:

    58 mins until FA Cup draw !…………………….surely enough to get you excited, Lee ! 🙂

  59. Le Coq Monster says:

    Akpom`s back in training !………….another new signing, it just keeps getting better !. 🙂

  60. Adam says:

    I actually couldn’t believe what I was seeing for the first halves of the last two games. In fact I have seen plenty of terrible performances from both players and the team, at home, for the past several seasons.

  61. Le Coq Monster says:

    Just to keep you excited……we are ball 20 in the draw !…………………………….Accrington Stanley are ball 31 !

  62. allezkev says:

    It’s gridlock out here…

    Hi Lee, yep, I worked Saturday, listened to the game on the radio. Didn’t feel too bad when we were losing, didn’t feel much different when we were winning, ambivalence kinda sums up how I felt…

  63. scottfromoz says:

    Morning all.
    Herb, you’ve been posting here for a short period of time.
    So you know nothing about me or why I’m pissed off with LG yet think you can have a crack at me?
    It shows what an all knowing expert on all things Arsenal you believe you are….shame you’re so. Don’t, but hey, ignorance is blisss.
    LG are scum.
    The guys running it are cowardly pieces of shit and have no morals whatsoever.
    Mind your own business and get your facts straight before mouthing off like a fool, but keep those drivel filled novels you call posts coming, they’re a cure for insomnia.
    Fred, well, as alway, decency and intestinal fortitude are lacking in your posts.
    Are you a grown man, or a Child?
    Nothing is more petty than taking shots at people without naming names, so next time, have a dose of courage on your weeties before turning the laptop on and you may gain some respect!
    MG, now you raise a fair question asking if Wenger disagrees with Stan’s ideas on running the club, why doesn’t he leave.
    It’s funny how many people have said that’s, but at other times have blamed Arsene for stifling the work Bould and Ivan COULD do if Arsene allowed them?
    Never is it asked why those two don’t leave!!!!!!!!!!
    There’s no hypocrisy at all there lol.
    Gee, when Arsene leaves, so many will have nothing to talk about, as every post they offer up says the same thing about the same man.

  64. rico says:

    Considering you dislike the way some of the LG posters comment Scott. Your last comment would fit better on there than it does here on HH.

    Neither Fred nor Herb were rude to you, yet you have to stoop low and be rude to them.

    Horrible….

  65. Le Coq Monster says:

    I dont know Rico…………….Norwich away would be easy like PNE……….probably a record score !…………………so come on Norwich @ Soton.

  66. Herb's Army says:

    Scott.
    I neither passionately defended Le Grove nor did I attack you, I merely said calling fellow supporters ‘scum’ is harsh and puts you on their level.
    I probably blogged on here before you, and I remember you, or another Aussie blogger called Scott who was just as rude and aggressive on another Arsenal blog.
    I’d hate to further ruin your blogging experience so let me leave you and those you have some respect for.

  67. ScottfromOz says:

    How about I become another arse kisser and just agree with everyone???
    Would everyone like me then lol
    Wenger out.
    I hate Arsene.
    Another sheep to the flock.
    Rico, you can not be expected to know every little thing happening in this group, but if you don’t see something, it seems it just can’t be happening!
    As for Herb, what I said was true.
    He knows nothing about why I can’t stand LG yet presumed to, so I should sit by and say nothing, just to keep the peace???
    It’s been a constant complaint that people are allowed to say their piece to me, yet on retaliation, I’m the bad guy.
    Ok to disagree?
    Well, unless you don’t agree with the masses, it seems.
    Let’s get rid of that French C**t.
    Am I popular now???
    What a joke!

  68. Wavy says:

    Kev for you, “I drink Idris when i’s dry” early itv advert and was plastered across every trolley bus I ever travelled on!
    Happy days……the days of George Swindin and underachievement. A bit like now, really. History repeating itself, again.

  69. frednerk says:

    Scott do you think for one minute I
    consider you someone who has any idea
    of whats going on.
    Every effing time you keep slagging us gooners down,
    You havn’t a clue about gooners where the fu*k have you ever been
    who would ever take what you say seriously
    that gets my goat or goose whatever you prefer.
    I know rico dislikes rudeness on this site so I keep
    it nice and try to throw a funny in now and again
    maybe a boring old story.
    My real names not frednerk,so in a way I let
    you give it the large and answer in a roundabout way
    to save getting into a slagging match Keyboard style.
    Shrinking Violet I am not me old cobber.

  70. ScottfromOz says:

    Wavy, one thing we can all count is history repeating itself.
    I need to remember that lol
    By the way, where is Devil?
    Hardly posts anymore.
    Knew as much about the game as anyone yet little to no input now, which is a shame.

  71. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Scott from Oz

    “No company ever collapsed because of the staff, the problems always starts at the top-always.”

    Was that person a union CEO? Obviously not a CEO of Australian manufacturing which has been destroyed by high ‘staff’ wages compared to overseas wages.

  72. ScottfromOz says:

    Fred, everything you posts slags the entire club down, but you’re not alone on that count!!!!!
    Rudeness-well, that comes in various forms, doesn’t it, and though you may well hide your poor manners behind sarcasm and without naming names,it’s still there for those who have open eyes!!!!!
    Where have I been?
    Wtf has that got to do with anything-what a ridiculously irrelevant point to make!
    Stay solid and keep sticking it to the club, if that makes you happy.
    Meanwhile, piss off from aiming your sly, slimy digs at me, because if you wish to take aim at me, at least do so in the open.
    My name is SCOTT because I don’t have anything to hide, and I don’t need an alias, as anything I say I stand by.
    Use it and You might find I’ll respect that even when we disagree, because as it stands, I find it impossible to respect someone who not only uses an alias, but hasn’t the decency to address someone they’re speaking to or about.
    Now, if any of that upsets you, I’ll finish on a high-just for you.
    WENGER OUT.
    Bet you like me now bahahahahahahahahaha
    To all other using an alias, you no doubt have your reasons and I don’t take issue at all with that, but at least the vast majority of you have the common courtesy to be straight forward and honest!!!!
    WENGER OUT!!!!

  73. frednerk says:

    Lets be fair scott all you want is to stand out
    you remind me of a little bloke with a big trap
    you have no experience of any thing Arsenal do yer,
    the internet,thats it.
    Wenger will always have a place in The Arsenal
    history with me so keep talking out your walnut
    all you have is slagging banter you fucking mug.
    If you want me to open up keep prodding away
    and will see who gets chucked off first.

  74. Micko says:

    Hold on, hold on,thought I was the King of Sarcasm, nothing lasts forever I guess ! Over to you Fred.

    Malaga, if John Lennon was alive today he’d more than likely be scratching like mad on the inside of his coffin after that comment.

  75. ScottfromOz says:

    Fred, so it’s a contest to see who gets chucked firat??
    So that’s why you keep poking-it all suddenly makes sense.
    And now I’m a fucking mug???
    Do your best, Fred or whoever you really are.
    WENGER OUT!!!

  76. ScottfromOz says:

    Micko, you remain the King, though it seems you have a worth contender lol
    MG, there’ll be no peace as Fred has no issues the challenge-who gets kicked out first hahahahahahaha
    And you reckon I need to chill?
    Just goes to show how many play the man and not the ball, really.
    WENGER OUT.

  77. potter says:

    Fred Nerk :- origin Harry Secombe and Eric Sykes. Interesting name that makes me think of the Goons whenever I see it.
    Now I believe being used in an Australian cartoon.

  78. frednerk says:

    You live a fucking million miles away
    SCOTT and think you can slag off who ever
    you want.
    When you get it back you just come out with bollocks
    and all that BLAR BLAR BLAR crap.
    You think I’m a bottle job because I use frednerk
    as name.
    You must think you some tasty geezer.
    I bet the only fight your’ve ever had is with
    a fucking mouse or have you got a touch screen.

  79. ScottfromOz says:

    Fred, keep serving it up and I’ll keep lapping it up, because yes, I’m tasty 🙂 🙂 🙂
    Can’t believe you don’t like me yet lol
    WENGER OUT!!!
    FRED IN!!!

  80. Obi says:

    GG @ 9:23, from my experiences, I have come to realize over the years, there are a lot more bad bosses/ managers than staff. In the case of the question you asked, as a CEO if you know that you can’t compete why agree to the union wages anyway. In that scenario either you shutdown, diversify or form some kind of a.labor management committee to meet a compromise. But the idea that a union can force wages on management is overrated as hyper mobile as businesses are. In the words of a famous CEO, if I am smarter than my staff then I have to fire all of them.
    So in this case, SK must think AW and Ivan are smarter than him. See GG I tied it all up lol. Only on HH…

  81. ScottfromOz says:

    Obi, when in London a few years back, a few things stood out compared to Oz.
    Clothing and food was ridiculously cheap there.
    Accomodation and Property was ridiculously expensive.
    Then, in America, everything was cheaper compared to Oz.
    I reckon the market balances things out to earnings, as people can only afford to spend what they earn, and the basic wage in America is very, very low compared to Oz, so everything just has to be cheaper.
    Unions can be a great thing, but too often, they have no consideration for the workers at all.
    I worked at a place where the Enterprise Bargaining Agreement negotiations took 18 months, and after a 2 week strike, stand downs etc etc etc, the workers accepted the exact pay rise the company had offered 18 months earlier, because that’s what they could afford to pay.
    2 weeks lost wages and 2 years wasted union fees for the same result.
    Fred, it’s not all mine at all.
    Don’t spit the dummy.
    Just don’t continue the smart arse attacks and talk to me, not at me, and not sideways.
    It ain’t that hard!!!!!

  82. Obi says:

    Scott point well taken, and it all derive from mistrust between management and labor. Ironically, upper management and the union bosses always have better salaries and benefits than the workers… Hence even on both sides there’s stratification, go figure.

  83. ScottfromOz says:

    Obi, the first offer of a rise was given to the Union who knocked it back, even after sighting the financials of the business, stating “offer less and let us negotiate up to that number”.
    Yes, the union organisers are on damn good money, in Australia at least, for doing very little good, imo.

  84. allezkev says:

    Wavy, I don’t remember the advert, but for some strange reason, I remembered the drink.
    I also remember the trolley buses ?

    I remember Frys Turkish Delight, Paynes Poppets, Nestles Milky Bar, and for some reason Cadburys Aztec bar, Cadburys attempt to take on Mars bar.
    Needless to say, we lived in a sweet shop in Lordship Lane, Tottenham from 1965 till 1972, I also recall some interesting cigarettes and tobaccos that don’t exist anymore. But I think I’ll leave it… ?

  85. ScottfromOz says:

    So your Spuds roots are outed lol
    I’m sure those items still exist but you’ll need to head underground 🙂

  86. tsgh says:

    Good morning Rico, Scott and all…

    What is making the news today?

    Jeez, Mg is out of hibernation at the right time as usual… 🙂

  87. tsgh says:

    Scott, Obi- on your discussion of labour/union reps… don’t forget the small matter of most union leaders having been bought and paid for or infiltrated for by their nations intel.
    The excuse was always that union reps were soviet sympathisers

    As an example Australian’s S.I.O were assisted by the guys from ‘riverside’ and Langley/farm to bring down your now deceased prime minister Gough Whitlam.
    Google ”Sir John Kerr” and ”pine gap” if you are not familiar with that story

  88. scottfromoz says:

    Ginge, familiar, yes, but properly educated, no.
    Whitlam remains a much admired politician, to this day.
    One thing I know about politics….honest people do not last.
    My best mates wife worked for a very, very good man who was a politician.
    As his profile built up, he was cut down by his own party, as it was realised he couldn’t be manipulated, and theycouldn’t allow him to become more popular else it would have been too late.
    Evil game, that one!

  89. rico says:

    Morning all.

    Another day as they say, and one which I hope dummies have been firmly replaced in mouths and life can move on.

    This place isn’t a popularity contest, it’s not about if someone likes you or not and I for one often have my most heated arguments/disagreements with my closest friends. It’s not about fitting in with what you perceive to be the general consensus or not, it’s about your opinion and how you get your opinion across. What also matters is when we don’t always agree but really want to get our own views across, at least keep it civilised and that’s something I’m sure we can all do without throwing insults at each other.

    Argue, debate, whatever you want to call it, as much as you like but if things become personal, you’ll be binned. It’s a simple as that.

    Highbury House doesn’t have a huge following like other websites, but nevertheless, I do this for fun and it does take a lot of time out of my life so I’d rather try to enjoy it and not play school mistress.

    Slagging off our own fans is not on, regardless of our differences of opinion, after all, each individual wants their opinion to be heard, so have the common decency to listen to others even though deep inside you might think they are wrong, or even that they are a massive dickhead!!

    Don’t forget, someone might be thinking exactly the same about you!

  90. tsgh says:

    Evening Mate…

    Make sure you don’t get yourself binned mate. 🙂

    And don’t get ‘awoken’ and start typing wenger out. lol

  91. ScottfromOz says:

    Lol Ginge,
    It really doesn’t matter how much I say Wenger should’ve left in 2014, as I’m just an AKB.
    There’s worse labels, I guess.
    Fucking mug, for one but hey, if the cap fits 🙂
    Rico, I honestly agree with everything you said.

  92. Adam says:

    The Arsenal firmament seems curiously at odds and it’s all because the team isn’t doing very well and hasn’t done so for a long, long time. As humans we appear to need someone to blame. This is what gets people fighting at away matches and involved on the net. The debt felt by many to Arsene has, to some, given him something of a pass. Add a dose of testosterone and away you go.

  93. rico says:

    Exactly Adam. I heard it was the younger fans who were involved in the spats on Saturday and half the problem with them is they know nothing other than Arsene Wenger being manager and somehow just can’t seem to let go…

    Add a few pints in there and well…..

  94. Lewis says:

    I think we all just need to accept that Arsene is more than likely here for another 2 years. The last few years have really knocked my passion for the club and for football in general, 2 more years of the same groundhog turgid performances and lack of ambition might just see me watching egg chasing at the weekend instead.

  95. ScottfromOz says:

    Adam, sounds a fair theory, but as I said yesterday, I know full well when someone is taking the piss out of me, and I’ll say so, as would anyone.
    Arsene deserves respect.
    He’s earned that, at least, surely.

  96. tsgh says:

    We need a Trump like figure to take back control of Arsenal for the long suffering fans. 🙂

    Someone who will come in with a deep pocket and demonise Aw like Trump did with Sach’s and Blankfein; and then when the said person takes over control he turns around and does a Stan and re-extend AW’s contract for life.

  97. rico says:

    Sadly Lewis, I think you are right. Two more years of this though will be hard to stomach….

    You are not too far away from me then Lewis… 🙂

  98. Adam says:

    Lewis. I really hope you are wrong about a new contract but fear you may be right. I have yet to hear a sensible argument for him staying and doubt I will.

  99. tsgh says:

    🙂 Scott. Me never. you need to wash and rinse your mouth after than comment.
    I think football has become too serious.
    Far more important things in this world than to allow Arsenal to affect how our day goes…

  100. rico says:

    Marshall, I’ve been mulling this one over too and at first there was no way I wanted either him or Alexis to leave but since then I’ve thought about the club first. If any player only plays for the manager then they are putting the club to one side. Once someone goes to any club they either love it or they don’t.

    If any of our players don’t love Arsenal then yes, bugger off….

  101. Adam says:

    Rico. Apparently Ozil never made that stipulation in the first place so it seems like it really was that bloke John Cross stirring it up (again), as has been suggested.

  102. Marshall says:

    Me too Rico, was weighing the possible outcome if Wenger told Ozil he’s retiring. Since I became an arsenal fan I’ve experienced far too many losses in great players it doesn’t bother me much nowadays. If Ozil will be the price to pay for Wenger leaving then hallelujah!

    He should be looking to having a winner replace Wenger.

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