Morning all.
That first half was worse than watching paint dry. A mistake made by Hull’s Myler allowed Olivier Giroud in to finally break his goal drought just before half-time.
The second half was marginally better but perhaps that’s because three further goals came along before the final whistle blew. Ollie ended with two as did Theo Walcott. All four were pretty good too and hopefully will have given both scorers a lot of confidence. The ball from Campbell through to Walcott for his first was perfect.
The tie was won and Arsenal march on in their FA Cup campaign and to be honest, that’s all what mattered last night.
For all the good, well, the four goals, there was bad too and I don’t mean just the football. Mertesacker suffered a nasty injury when he clashed heads with Powell, Gabriel pulled up with and injury and had to be replaced by Ramsey and then he too had to go off before the game finished.
The big German might recover in time to face Watford in the quarter-final on Sunday but I doubt the same can be said of Gabriel or Ramsey, certainly not the latter according to Arsene Wenger.
Despite the victory, the ‘Arsene – thanks for the memories’ banners were on display after the final whistle blew and to be honest, it was no great surprise.
As one of the fans who holding the banner said, it’s not just about the last few weeks of poor results and performances, it’s about empty promises. It’s about being told that after moving to The Emirates, the club would be able to compete with the clubs who are owned by wealthy people but that just hasn’t been the case.
In fact this year, it’s not even the oil rich clubs who sit ahead of us in the league, another point the banner holding fan explained:
It’s the culmination of years and years and years of lies, and everything from the board to the manager – Arsene Wenger’s not solely responsible, and we need to get people to understand that.
We’re eight points behind Leicester City. We’re not struggling behind oil money now.
Let Arsene Wenger, to let Stan Kroenke, Ivan Gazidis and everyone in charge of Arsenal know that fans have a voice. I love Arsenal, but don’t have to accept some of the things that’s going on.
Ian Wright wasn’t thrilled to see banner though:
It’s very disappointing. Yes, we’ve had a couple of bad results but it’s not over by any stretch of the imagination.
Sometimes they have to look at the players and the way they’ve performed. You can’t completely keep caning the manager like that.
They won it comfortably and they were under pressure going into this game. To see that sign is just annoying.
I think Ian Wright is missing the point.
Anyway, life as an Arsenal fan will carry on with Arsene Wenger as the manager at least until the summer so onwards and hopefully upwards although I won’t count my chickens…
Watford up next on Sunday in the quarter-finals of the FA Cup..
Morning, good post rico. Ian Wright deliberately glossing over, is he looking for a role alongside Henry at Emirates?
Wenger as well, never realising or pretending not to realise, the reasons behind the anger. Radio commentators the same, thinking fans just upset over results. If we had tried reinforcing and failed, I could take it. But not having tried when in such a position in January was crass
So Arsene’s not solely responsible?
Maybe they ran out of room on the banner to name the others they blame.
Dickheads.
Morning all.
The shame about the whole situation is that there is such an in-bred hatred of Arsenal from all corners, that true heartfelt protests fall short because they are seen as just another bandwagon jumper. Everyone knows the problems within the club – the lack of investment being the worst. However, if every microscopic detail of the club is blown out of proportion, then protests such as last night’s banner hold little impact. Not sure if there is a solution – as we have always seemed to be the black sheep. I do agree with AW, though – judge us at the end – you never know.
Thanks Andrew. Spot on. This isn’t about recent weeks, it’s about the last few years….
Why are they dickheads Scott?
It’s just a banner after the game expressing their opinion…. No insults either..
Rico, they state they don’t solely blame Arsene…..who else had their name plastered on the banner?
Sorry, but they are, because it’s a dumb comment.
Blame Arsene, Stan, the board and the players.
That’s not so popular, though.
People blame those they know will see others agree and join in.
Ramsey and Giroud…..criticise them, and others will join in.
Nacho used to cop it.
I said to a guy in FB Giroud has more goals than Theo and Alexis combined yet who cops the most criticism?
Criticise Ozil, and most will defend him-it wasn’t that way a year ago, was it?
Sanchez still cops little, yet should be getting as much as just about any of our players at present, but that’s not popular amongst fans.
Blame Arsene though…..its just easy.
Stan is too hard a target because he offers no presence and therefore, no obvious reasons to criticise him.
We did reinforce in January and the good player signed, El Neny, shone yesterday. No world class player that would improve on what we have was available. It’s as simple as that.
Good Morning Chips and Chops.
Good report Rico.
I saw only the 2nd half so cannot comment. however, I feel that the supporters are justified in expressing their opinion as much as AW has his own opinion.
The difference between the reactions is that while AW was on the defensive and failed to acknowledge the right of the supporters to voice their dissent and said he gives a fuck all…..the supporters did it in a civil way. They just wrote a message on a banner. its because of the way they did it that AW reacted the way he did. Had it been the Galatasaray, Fenerbahce or any Argentinian crowd who protested I doubt he would have said that. He would have written his resignation quicker than you would say Cheese.
Yes, maybe the timing was not right…..I would have preferred it to be done during a match later on when we are mathematically sure that we are not going to win the EPL. 8 points is a big gap, but if the spuds and Leicester drop points in the next four games and we win them all the table could change.
Devil, comments I read from Wenger…not sure if they were made after this game….said he’s there to work, to do his job and not to worry about criticism from fans or others.
Not sure what’s wrong with that.
I mean, do we want him making decisions popular with fans, or the right decisions for the entire club?
That’s exactly what’s he’s saying, imo.
No, I’m not suggesting he’s making the right calls, but he’s certainly not there to listen to us and do what he thinks we want.
Maybe he should, though, because plenty of fans know more than him 🙂 🙂
AO, MI.
Arsenal as a club has fans from all walks of life. Fans are different and if some fans believe it is time to get rid of Wenger then that’s their opinion and the rest of us should respect that. The club comes before Wenger.
They are frustrated because for the last 10 years, its the same story over and over again. Wait till the end of the season to win the FA cup, again?Are we supposed to get excited over beating lower league opposition? What happened with Man United, Barcelona etc
‘Wait to judge Wenger’ till the end of the season and you will finish in the top 4 just like the last 10 years. The fans are not judging him for the last 4 games
This by far was our best chance to win the League, and it is out of our control and have to keep wishing for Leceister City to drop enough points along the way.
No one is taking away what Wenger has done for the club, but at some stage the club needs to move on to become winners again.
You are right Scott……except one small thing………AW is the one who buys the players, AW is the one who does the tactics, AW is the one who chooses the team, AW is the person who advices the board and it was AW who said that he would give the money back to the board if they gave him 100mill to spend.
yes its easy to criticise AW……not because everyone says so….but because when one analyses everything his name invariably ticks all the boxes
Devil, as I said, I’m not suggesting he’s making the right calls-far from it.
Should he make the decisions based on what fans want though?
Why have a manager if that’s the case?
Just put a poll up each week on who should play.
Why do people jump on bandwagons when criticising certain players?
Don’t tell me it doesnt happen.
Scott, but Stan is going nowhere is he and it’s AW choice to play the way we do, to sign, or not sign additional players etc etc so ultimately, he will always take majority of the blame.
Managers are always the one to be the fall guy..
zTOMz – are you really being serious?????
Good post rico. … what a shit game I recorded it I just ended up fast forwarding it brutal to watch.
Pity about the injuries and I certainly ain’t happy to see Ramsey injured or any Arsenal player.
I was glad the banner was there because it’s time to show a consistent voice not just when we lose.
calling them supporters dick heads, while criticising supporter’s who call wenger name’s.. really? Rather sad tbh.
Bell, per, chambers, gibbs… this wkend I’d keep monreal on the bench atm incase we need him as a centre half..
Rico, it’s a sad situation, no question.
Stan won’t go.
Arsene won’t go.
Stan won’t sack Arsene.
It hurts the head lol.
Thanks Devil.
Welcome Ezra.. The funny thing is that there are still a large number of fans who are happy with AW and don’t want him to leave any time soon. Well, according to a poll in the Mirror.. lol
Kel, read my comment and take it in the right context before mouthing off.
Sad is the constant comments by people who pick apart what they want to, and go for the throat.
If you don’t see the hypocrisy in their comments about their own banner, then that’s sad!
To Rico:
Of course?
El Neny is a good addition in the midfield and will be great for us. He’s got as big an energy tank as Ramsey, passes well and was pressuring the opponents nicely when off the ball. He also takes his chances from far on occasion, something the team direly needs.
Add a Summer signing like Grzegorz Krychowiak and we’ll have drastically improved over the departing Arteta and Flamini, with Coquelin obviously already being outstanding.
No World Class player was available in January. What are you disagreeing with exactly?
Rico, those fans still supporting Wenger to stay are surely just as relevant as those people holding up a banner.
Tom, EVERY player is available at the right price.
Iceman – end of which season though? 😉
Thanks Kel, awful wasn’t it. Goals were good though and won’t have done Ollie or Walcott any harm. It’s about time both scored… lol
Scott – it certainly is a sad situation and one which should have been sorted long before now…
I’m off guys.
Micko, I hope I’ve given you plenty to work with.
Glad to be of assistance 🙂 🙂
Arsene out, but Stan, as well.
Night all.
Rico, May 2014 was the absolute perfect time….I know you agree 🙂
Night…..
Scottt – what’s with the ‘mouthing off’? Come on, you said it’s not right to name call AW which is something I agree with, then you name call fans… That’s all Kel is saying… Chill out…
You called them dickheads scott… While crying about supporters calling wenger name’s. .
@scottfromoz
No they aren’t and, past a certain level, the price isn’t right any longer.
Were there many world class players changing clubs in January? Were their no club with money interested? None moved despite interest and money available. There’s a reason for that.
Yes delighted to see giroud and Theo score rico.. by god they needed them goals….
Gibbs played well again fair play to him he’s doing all he can atm to grab his chance.
And Ospina another solid performance..
What about last summer Tom?? Plenty of players moved clubs, just not to Arsenal…
Tom…..do you honestly believe that NO player was available in January???? Elneny was and he came.
Yes I do believe that no player was available in January……because they cost more than AW’s valuation of the players. AW goes for a player but offers silly money he knows that the club will not accept. So he will rightly say that he went for player so and so but his club value him and would not sell.
Every player has his price.
Thought Ollie and Walcott were awful first half Kel so two goals from both came as a shock… lol
Yeah I really don’t get the dickhead comment, I suppose saying that Stan is the problem is that a “dickhead” comment??? It fucking is in my book.
Wenger leaves before Stan, so get over it. There is life after Wenger, he is holding us back and the sooner he fucks off the better!!
Forget January tom… It was last summer ffs.. I don’t like kronke but i seriously doubt he told wenger to not buy an outfield player…
2 players could have been the difference of being Champions… but I suppose we’ll never know.
@ Rico: Which World Class players moved in position where we needed reinforcements?
Aubameyang: Stayed, given a new contract with massive pay raise and 70M valuation given. (I hope we give it a try in the Summer though)
Lewandowski: Stayed, new contract, crazy high valuation too and he’s in a bigger club.
Benzema: stayed and thank god we didn’t sign that idiottc diva. He’d have been poison in the locker room and not a big step up for the money wasted on him.
Higuain: Same as Benzema, without the attitude problem.
All these were the best potential targets and the bottom two aren’t even world class (=like an Aguero, Suarez, Neymar), the top 2 only being close, at the time (now yes, following their great form).
Take your wooden spoon out the pot Lee….
Devil. Had AW signed who we needed last summer, he wouldn’t have had to worry about inflated prices, but then you already know that….
Tom……is ELNENY worldclass???
I guess that when you read his name first you said…..Elneny WHO????
So please do not give me the excuse of no world class players available.
I’m not talking ‘world class’ Tom, grafters in midfield were needed before January, players who can change a game too but do they always have to be world class?
Were there not two midfielders better than Arteta and Flamini? Stoke signed one who many think is and he was cheap…
And not just Stoke signed players last summer who would have given Arsenal something different…
Very much a continuation of the post I raised last week.It is fair to say that our support is fragmented and not on a straight divide. The only thing that we are fairly confident of is that a growing percentage of supporters are not happy.
The banner has been around for some time but I think it’s the first time the media has shown it so openly. It has raised the subject and the the press now smells blood, Wenger’s tenure is getting pressurised but I say again IS HIS REMOVAL ENOUGH ?. BY getting rid of him will it change the way that the good ship Arsenal is headed ? Does he really have the final say period or does he have the final say within a set structure ?
We have a board of aged people led by Old Etonians , put them under scrutiny and they are more likely to pull together and pull up the drawbridge than up sticks and run away. Throughout their lives they have not been used to being questioned after all their peers run the country they consider themselves a superior breed , some accuse Wenger of arrogance but he has nothing on that lot , they seriously see themselves as a privileged master race. Add to this the majority shareholder who has to be dragged across the pond to witness a little unrest from the plebs and the problem is clear . No longer do they thank us for our support , the phrase used at the last shareholder’s meeting was ” thank you for your custom “.
Bloody cheek.!
I’m not stirring at all Rico, the bloke has travelled to Hull on a Wednesday night and aired his opinion…. why is he a dickhead??????
Well said Potter and my answer is a big fat no, the owner lacks ambition and the board are hopeless. The comment from Lord Harris last summer did the club or AW no good whatsoever either as all it did was stick AW right out there for criticism as everyone possibly expected big big money to be spent, or at least a few big signings.
Of course, he should have signed more than just Cech and for that I can’t forgive him.
But the best question you ask about the final say is a good one. If only we all knew the answer…
I’d love Usmanov to flex his financial muscles and make Kroenke an offer he couldn’t refuse.
I asked the same question Lee. I don’t see him as being a dickhead, just expressing his opinion.
And I for one don’t believe in name calling fellow fans….
Even if Leicester drop points, don’t be surprised if it’s Man City who steam through to take the title…
Afternoon All
Afternoon Rico
Afternoon Kev.
Just praying it’s not that other horrid lot who take advantage of any dropped points…
Scott, what happened to my t-shirt??????
Tom , where is it written in stone that the squad reinforcements we needed during the last 3 or four years all have to be world class and cost the earth ?It’s about scouting and identifying players. We know because we have been told that we tried to sign Messi and Ronaldo , Ibrahimovic , Yaya Toure but didn’t we jump in the ring for Mahrez or Payet , Martial went for silly money but Wenger said he was surprised because he did not know he was available for sale . WHY NOT ? what are our scouts doing when they don’t know what is happening ? Is it that no-one was available or were we not really looking ?
Nah, I can’t see them winning it Rico…
They’re bigger bottlers than us….
Man Cith look ominous, all their big hitters are fit and they are in form at just the right time.
Hopefully a long run in the CL will bugger them up…
Potter, do you think that Wenger was telling the truth about Martial…?
To Hell Raising Devil:
El Neny was signed as #2 or even #3 in the defensive midfield COVER and is great quality for that level of player.
No elite player signs a contract when he won’t be the #1 choice, which for the moment will always be Coquelin when fit.
This doesn’t affect my point.
Hope you are right Kev. As Lee said yesterday, perhaps the Dortmund players will rough them up a bit… lol
Elneny 2nd or 3rd cover for DM Tom?? Where do you get that from?
To rico: there is ONE available spot left in the squad list (so not counting youngsters), no one was going to buy Flamini or Arteta and, given their contract runs out in the Summer, it’s logical to let them run their course when these players are #3 and #4 choice in those position.
Especially when, at the time, so many players were coming back from injury.
We went for Carvalho during the Summer but he broke his leg at the same time the bid was being prepared. We already replaced one of these 2 with El Neny and the other can be replaced by a big Summer signing, when they have a higher chance of being available.
I haven’t seen much of the Stoke guy but if we invest from 15+M, we tend to go for better players.
To Rico:
Coquelin is the obvious 1st and one of the reason why we dropped the Morgan Schneiderlin interest as he wasn’t going to be guaranteed a spot in the Starting XI (an issue that he still ended up facing at Man U though).
While El Neny has box to box midfielder qualities, it’s his defensive nous that interested Wenger as cover for Coquelin, battling with Flamini for that 2nd spot as the Flame was doing a decent job during Coquelin’s injury,
Sorry Tom, I don’t agree with what you are saying at all.
How can you say: ‘
I haven’t seen much of the Stoke guy but if we invest from 15+M, we tend to go for better players’.
You haven’t seen him play yet you say AW goes for better players for a similar price. What player leads you to have such a belief?
Flamini doing a decent job??
Have you been watching us when he played?
To Potter:
I see what you mean but this is pure hindsight on how good these players became.
Our squad was strong enough and settled in those positions last Summer. There were even articles showing how we had the strongest second XI of the league at the beginning of the season.
If Wenger wasn’t aware Martial was on sale it was because the scouts didn’t deem him worthy of a mention. They must have had a nice laugh at the ridiculous price tag and moved on to other targets. The WHOLE POINT of signing promising youngsters is that you don’t pay the full price of the players they might become one day like Man U did with Martial.
Instead, we signed Iwobi and Reine-Adelaide, with the former looking fanstastic already.
We signed another 2 players of that calibre in January for the future, given our squad is too strong for them to break in it at this stage.
Isn’t a fan who is actually braving the cold and risk missing a train back home to london allowed to voice his discontent? If you have a list of other people you wonna blame write your own banner and go with it to a match. Just respect their bloody opinion.
zTomz. I wan’t what your smoking.
Iwobi has been at Arsenal since 2004 Tom, not the summer of 2015…
Have the two young Nigerians signed yet officially, not that they’ll be seen in the first team for a long time…
I know we are thin but boy ain’t I glad Ramsey will be out for a while! Joel can get to play…so does Elneny
“Haven’t seen MUCH” = I can be wrong as I haven’t seen all the Stoke games. That’s enough to form an opinion however and, if he had been that good, we’d have heard about him. He’s not lighting the league on fire, is he?
Flamini held the fort nicely during Coquelin’s absence. Or have you seen a different league where Arsenal fell out of the title race in January? He’s an experienced squad player. Of course he isn’t as good as the #1 choice, that’s what a squad player means.
I’d say so Marshall…
I think Tom is on a wind up myself…. 😉
Flamini is little other than an old has been who should never have returned imo. Waste of wages but so typical of AW as he was free.
Hi all
I actually know the guy behind the banner and to my knowledge he wasn’t one of those interviewed last night. He used to be a really good mate of mine and we went to all of the games together. I am not going to name him on a public domain but his brother has told me that he absolutely hates Arsene and doesn’t want us to win the league while he is manager! That has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard from someone who follows the club everywhere but also shows you the real thinking behind the banner.
Thanks for the memories.
What memories for the last decade?
Nightmare more precisely.
Rico.
How so?
I just find the usual “Wenger Out” arguments farcical and miles away from the reality of what’s happening in the club and on the pitch.
Life doesn’t work like Football Manager and there usually are very good reasons for the manner the club/squad is managed. I just answer those arguments with a dollop of reality check.
That it’s always so much easier to find a scapegoat to blame doesn’t mean is the correct thing to do for the club’s future.
Bob,
u have to be logic using your brain, not your stupid ass.
do you really think after manure and swansea bottler, wenger and his babies will not bottle it again and get the PL title? The old man is a sad pathetic loser, and he proves it with 12 years bottler, why you deludedly think that banner guy hope no title, wenger won’t get the fucking PL title, get you brain sort out, AKB.
because most people knowS wenger is dinosaur past it, get your face off wenger’s arse, will you?
Bob, agree, really daft that any Arsenal fan wouldn’t want AW or any other manager to win the league. I’d rather he won it and left on a high in the summer…
This current squad is terribly thin, generally not good enough and definitely lacking balance. Relying on Arteta, Rosicky, Wishere and Flamini was a sackable offence…… there’s only one scapegoat and it’s Wenger.
People need to realize this and stop sticking up for the serial loser.
Orf,
Your comment has been confused? Are you insulting Bob with your views, as if so you are bang out of order!!
Rico, it’s time to take a stand, I’ve had it with the wenger bollocks and all AKBs,
Maybe the banner time was picking the wrong time, BUT HULL IS JUST NOT FUCKING ENOUGHT TO JUSTIFY 12 YEARS OF BOLLOCKS.
The fans who stick up for Wenger did so at a time when he could of been forgiven, with budget etc.
Then when the plight stops it almost becomes something so stuck in your mind, your forget why you are sticking up for him, just the only reason so you, yourself don’t look stupid then end up going back on your opinions from 5 years previous.
Time’s u. The predictability of our seasons, stagnation, we are becoming a laughing stock.
I thought the phrase, “I didn’t know he was even for sale,” was about Charlie Austin. None the less he may well have been as uninformed about Martial’s availability. I don’t think he would have offered anything like manure paid for him, though. Wenger is far too tight!
Wenger and the Board have made their own bed out of hair shirts and cheap bogofs and if this has riled the fans, some of them at least, then they, Wenger and the Board have no grounds for complaint. Imo.
The club will still be there long after silent Stan and Wenger, Chips, Ivan and all the rest of the gang will be long gone but the fans, the next generation of fans will have long replaced us. The club will survive the fans will continue to support, the board will be reconstituted and the same old conflicts will all be re enacted. The world goes on but very little changes its just the faces that alter!
Afternoon Rico and the House.
Good to have you back Rico its not the same without you.
Just a short visit will be back this evening
The club have announced that they have frozen the price of tickets(general & S/T) until 2019?? There are also other perks for the away fans.
There was 2 Banners at last nights game.
The Hull fans had one which said the following
WELLCOME ARSENAL
Always Remembering DAVID ROCASTLE.
It had 4 photos of the great Rocky on it..
There has been a massive row on twitter between Wrighty and Marmite(the guy with the banner, many insults and a lot of fans backing Wrighty.
U21’s in action tonight.
See you later.
Tom, I now know where you got your idea for your email address as that’s where I think you are stuck.
If you can’t see that there are big problems with the squad and the way we play then that’s fine but please don’t try and convince fans who live in the real world that all is rosy because it isn’t.
And as much as I lump a lot of blame on Kroenke for being useless, AW signs and stands by the players and sends them onto the pitch with a game plan. A game plan which is dated and failing…
Orf – I really don’t care how you feel, you don’t insult fellow fans on HH, if you do, you can leave. If you read Bob’s comment properly and previous comments he’s left you would know what his views are by now.
Bob was merely questioning why a fan would follow the club around the country yet doesn’t want Arsenal to win the league under Wenger.
To Lee: yet at the beginning of the season, I remember reading an article on the depth of the top teams’s squads and how Arsenal’s was the strongest with each position having cover for (though they did highlight the risk of losing Coquelin, hence why ElNeny was signed add another option until Arteta/Flamini leave in the Summer))
Afternoon Rick and thanks.
ST’s and ticket prices frozen for so long, that’s a surprise….
Theo Walcott has revealed the Arsenal squad held a private meeting without Arsene Wenger and his coaching staff as they sought to address the Gunners’ slip-ups in the Premier League title race.
According to James Olley of the Evening Standard, Walcott said:
We are not going to lie—we know as a unit it has been tough and we all had a good chat amongst us behind closed doors, without even any of coaches or the manager knowing about anything. It is important that as a team [to know] we have got it in us.
We just have to produce it more often. You had a sense of the Tottenham [Hotspur] game especially, when you go down to 10 men in a big game like that, the belief and the character was there. The never-give-up spirit was there as well. In the derby matches, they could be the matches that turn your season and we may have turned the corner.
We have quite a lot of experienced players in the dressing room. It came from [Petr] Cech, Mikel [Arteta], Per [Mertesacker] and Tomas [Rosicky]. We have four good old heads there. I’d like to keep what was said among ourselves but it was very important. We have had a reaction from it.
[The manager] probably knows about it anyway. The manager respects the players’ privacy and what is happening personally among us all. It was a meeting to express how everyone was feeling basically and it worked.
Rico,
You and Bob is missing the point.
All fans want the same for us to win the league.
But we all know it won’t happen under wenger, and you really think he will?
That;s why the banner guy was talking OF no point of HOPING TO WIN THE LEAGUE, WHEN YOU ALREADY KNOW IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
it’s the worst season after all with the big clubs going to shite.
Why you condemned the banner guy? H
You find the wenger out comments farcical and miles away from what’s happening at the club.. hahahaha
So everything is ok then lol…
Marshall. Come on man you shouldn’t be glad Ramsey is injured his form is shit yes… but that’s more to do with his position hes best on the right imo..
No Orf, you are missing the point. What you wrote to Bob was not justified and you were out of order. Wind your neck in and leave the cap locks off too, we can all read well enough thanks…
To Rico:
“A game plan which is dated and failing…”
Yeah, sorry but that’s just plain wrong. We play differently than 2 seasons ago, especially against the strongest teams, which is why we stopped getting whooped by them.
That tired old cliche that Wenger “doesn’t do tactics”, which was true for some years, should have been been put to bed once and for all for a couple of years now.
It’s just baffling you could even keep claiming this has any kind of validity with the many dramatic and very un-Arsenal-like games we played, defending deep and hitting on the counter instead of keeping possession as usual.
I’m NOT saying things are rosy but you have to be blind not to see the big progresses the team has made over the last few years from the Ozil signing (thanks Arsene) and the return to a silverware winning squad.
“To Lee: yet at the beginning of the season, I remember reading an article on the depth of the top teams’s squads and how Arsenal’s was the strongest with each position having cover for…”
What a load of bollocks that article was….. if we have such great cover why are we massively struggling in the poorest ever PL???
I give up Tom, you carry on with your own view all you like but in the league this season, and many before we have been average at best. If that pleases you then fine, it doesn’t me…
How did we do against a terrible Chelsea this season???
We’ve really got that team sussed out…..
I wrote it Lee, but I did raise questions over the fitness of a few and the lack of depth in strength in certain areas… 😉
Eboue has signed for Sunderland…. 🙂
Come to think of it, how did we do against WBA Swansea West Ham Olypiacos Zagreb Wednesday…… we’ve regressed this season.
Don’t forget away to Southampton and home to West Ham. Oh, and conceding a very late goal at Anfield…
Oops, you said the Hammers…
And against utds reserves ffs…
look I understand the attachment to wenger he’s a legend at Arsenal and a man who does deserve respect. But he is pushing on towards 70 and there comes a point when change is needed… whether that change works or not we shall see but we at least have to try.
If it doesn’t then we try again.. that’s football, that’s life.
Spot on Kel.
To many are frightened of change and are quick to cite other clubs failures when changing a manager but sometimes, change works and works well and I truly believe we are at that stage now with not only AW but the board and owner too but I know Kroenke is staying put for a long time yet. Certainly all the time his bank account benefits.
http://highbury-house.com/2012/02/19/wenger-up-and-out-dont-be-afraid-of-change-as-pep-guardiola-rumours-gather-pace/
2012 🙂 🙂
As ever there seems to be confusion between supposition and fact.
I could suppose that Arsene has lost the ability to motivate young millionaires with an overwhelming sense of their own importance. This would be because I can’t quite believe that they are as bad as they seem. I could blame Stan and say that he ‘allows’ Wenger to get away with this rather louche approach to squad strengthening. I could then extrapolate from this that Wenger thinks this squad is better than their performances would seem to indicate and has therefore made a series of gross miscalculations. Perhaps he is an optimist where he sees TR, MA and MF (to name but 3) as valuable players. The fact that 2 of them don’t play at all would indicate a flaw in this mode of thinking. I haven’t even mentioned Jack.
But I think the tragedy of the situation lies in the fact that the excuses where money is concerned have well and truly run out and that this has definitely been our best chance to walk away with the title. We all know it and we cannot believe that Wenger waltzed into the season with a squad that most supporters I know said wasn’t good enough. In 100 days Wenger and his team of scouts and movers and shakers could not prise one quality outfield player out of another club to reinforce our squad. This is what he is paying for now. He had the time, the money and one must assume, the opportunities, had he exploited them, to move Arsenal onto a different level. There is no supposition in the fact that he didn’t do that. In fact he did almost nothing and for a man of his supposed qualities, that was shocking. Because what it means is that, should he stay, he has a lot of ground to make up, essentially to stand still. He must replace our crocks with quality and this might mean adding 4 or 5 players. In a close season where he has already signed up as a pundit, can anyone see this happening?
From: Evening Standard
Theo Walcott today revealed how Arsenal’s players held a private clear-the-air meeting in a bid to salvage their season.
The Gunners sealed their first win in six games with a 4-0 win at Hull in last night’s FA Cup fifth-round replay to set up a quarter-final tie against Watford on Sunday.
Last night’s victory came three days after Arsene Wenger’s side salvaged a point with 10 men in the north London derby at Spurs and Walcott believes the players are already reaping the benefits of a frank exchange of views organised by senior squad members.
Petr Cech, Per Mertesacker, Mikel Arteta and Tomas Rosicky arranged the get-together without the manager’s knowledge.
Walcott, who scored twice last night, said: “We are not going to lie — we know as a unit it has been tough and we all had a good chat amongst us behind closed doors, without even any of coaches or the manager knowing about anything. It is important that as a team [to know] we have got it in us.
“We just have to produce it more often. You had a sense of the Tottenham game especially, when you go down to 10 men in a big game like that, the belief and the character was there. The never-give-up spirit was there as well. In the derby matches, they could be the matches that turn your season and we may have turned the corner.
“We have quite a lot of experienced players in the dressing room. It came from Cech, Mikel, Per and Tomas. We have four good old heads there. I’d like to keep what was said among ourselves but it was very important. We have had a reaction from it.
“[The manager] probably knows about it anyway. The manager respects the players’ privacy and what is happening personally among us all. It was a meeting to express how everyone was feeling basically and it worked.”
Only two teams — The Wanderers (1876-1878) and Blackburn Rovers (1884-1886) — have ever won the FA Cup in three successive years and Walcott admits he is motivated by the prospect of joining such an elite group.
Not in a month of Sundays.
Perhaps Adam, just for once, he’ll give Gazidis or whoever else is responsible for getting deals done, a list of targets to sign and they get the job done whilst he’s away talking about football.
Then again, probably it’s just a ‘no’.
Kev, 1.54 😉 😉
What’s more likely to happen is with so much money being dished out to all clubs from the TV deal, they’ll all snap up some ‘proper’ footballers and AW will go sniffing around for a few bargains when those clubs sell to make room for the new guys… 😉
Then we might accelerate our regression and if we can’t hang onto Alexis and Ozil things will get sticky.
Orf
Please go and join Le Grove where you will be at home amongst others who think its ok to insult people and swear at them. Highbury House is a civilised blog where we appreciate everyones views without recourse to abuse. You know absolutely nothing about me or the amount of money and time I have devoted to supporting Arsenal but if you seriously believe that Arsene Wenger has not given us any great memories then you must have just been dropped out of a spaceship or more likely know nothing about the history of our great club!
Rico
Thanks for your support ?
It’s getting a bit lively on here…
That’s really quite good, nothing like a good old debate… And yes Rico, I did see it ?
I think both will stay Adam, at least for one more season as surely they know that AW won’t be at the club forever….
My pleasure Bob….
🙂 Kev.
Back in a bit, need a dash to the Post Office….
We’ll see Rico. If I was either of them and Arsene signs on for another 3 years, I wouldn’t. But then I am a greedy sod, like Walcott and it’s a short career.
Quoted by Tom :- Our squad was strong enough and settled in those positions last Summer. There were even articles showing how we had the strongest second XI of the league at the beginning of the season.
That of course is where the disagreement comes from. I don’t know whether you watch the team live home and away or whether you enter the armchair supporter of the year award. From my own perspective and from hearing what is said around me , the consensus is that we have been a few players short of a winning squad for some time .Usually the topic has revolved around the spine of the team , a keeper , a defensive minded midfielder , a striker with different attributes to Giroud and at least 2 central defenders.
It can be accepted that the signing of Cech has belatedly solved the keeper and Gabriel has reinforced the back four. However with all the long term injuries that we have suffered the mistakes of holding out for Diaby, Rosicky , Wilshere etc to contribute to the squad we have been permanently weak and in effect still are. They may have looked good on paper as a second Xl but unfortunately the game is played on grass not on a notice board in the managers office.
I probably wouldn’t either Adam but then I’m hoping AW will walk away in the summer….
Mind you, they might see AW differently to the way many of us do…
Can’t see it right now Rico. I assume that Pep was told there was no immediate vacancy. But things do change. 🙂
Or maybe Pep didn’t like the available budget he was quoted Adam….. 😉
Could be. 🙂
NewsNow is always good at being at the cutting edge…
Among its ‘Top Stories’ is this beauty…
Hull vs Arsenal
Confirmed line-up and breaking team news!
Wow, I wonder what yesterday’s team is gonna be??? ?
That’s from yesterday though isn’t it Kev?
I see Pep is already at work with his transfer targets for City…. Well, according to the media…
Pep probably won’t find a single outfield player that’ll strengthen citeh……
Rico 2.23 thx for that lol and all 365 comments
Adam 2.27.. spot on
I don’t think Bob deserves the name callings. He was merely pointing other people’s view.
Kel, I just noted the positive side of Ramsey’s layoff. And that would be Joel will give much more and be better in that position, so will be elneny in the mid.
Good Evening Chips and Chops………
Those who are here to discuss……we kindly encourage you to stay. Its pleasurable discussing.
those who are here to sling mud or call names…..kindly clear-ORF (as Mr Goon in Enid Blyton used to say)
I prefer to discuss the team anyway……until the end of season which is a very loooooooonggggg time seems we will be stuck with AW whether we like it or not.
We grumbled because of Aaron’s injury and rightly so. But sometimes it has to be seen as a blessing.
Why you may ask.
Ok…..here goes…….
1) Who is more disciplined…..Elneny or Aaron in the B2B role???
2) Do you feel at ease with Campbell on the right??
3) What for Iwobi now that the Ox and Aaron are out of the equation??
Imo the team now should read……
Ospina/Cech
Bellerin, Per, Kos (Gabi) Nacho(Gibbs)
ELNENY, Coquelin
Campbell, Ozil, Alexis
Danny/Ollie
That should be the first 11. Clear the air talks??? that is the 12th man as well
So imo sometimes, an injury might not mean a hindrance…..rather it can be a season saviour.
And I have the utmost confidence in Elneny to be a first teamer and not just a squad player. Just like Joel
Orf wasn’t alone tbf..
No injury is welcomed by me, but hey that’s just my opinion if that’s allowed.. 😉
No one here deserves being called names or ridiculed.
This is no place to do so.
Yes we have our opinions and we respect each other. Sometimes we even become boisterous but its always with respect.
And tbh…..I really appreciate reading Bob’s opinions. and enjoy them as well.
And for those who insult others just take a look at this……
Wenger really divides supporters.
It’s not today Kel…. 😆
Kel, and four years later, it’s still the same…. Lol
Comments are down though… 😉
Ramsey on the right works though Devil..
Yes Kel. I agree with you that no injury is welcome……but Elneny is more disciplined than Aaron and tbh….Aaron is more of a favourite than Elneny atm.
A new manager rico with a new approach will put them back up imo. win or lose it will give us all a lift lol we’ll all be on here debating it… and who knows it might actually be exciting during transfer windows lol…
Yeah dev he’s definitely a favourite no doubt. .. Elneny looks more composed for sure.
Ramsey will score you a goal though.
So we have Watford twice at the Emirates.
In spite of all mistakes, if we won Swansea (a clear fault before the goal and goal in off side), the tittle could be ours.
I’m waiting for May. Then we have the European cup. Then, probably we will talking about new players.
Kel, probably. Fingers crossed eh lol
Do you reckon Chelsea will win the CL then Jm? Lol
I just lost all my respect for wrighty. He’s was my 7th greatest arsenal player but for talking shit last night he’s off my list. What a muppet. Afternoon good people.
Not trying to offend anyone, but there is a reason why the retirement age is 65 and on top of that, by all measures, the man’s success rate has been declining. I love the FA Cup, so I think that is great to be gunning for a 3rd successive Cup; but that begs the question, supposed Wenger would have strengthen the squad, not played players out of positions, employed different tactics and created incentives for players to be motivated by dropping under-performing players. Maybe we win a couple of doubles. Mourinho and Wenger agree on one thing, Ozil is the best #10 in football, but as Lee has said before, Wenger buys him and gives no proper finisher with pace. Is like buying a $300k Lamborghini when you only drive during rush hour in New York City. As the banner said thanks for the memory. Pep (more successful than Wenger at Barca) was replaced by Enrique and its working fine. So Wenger is not irreplaceable. No one is diminishing his achievement, its just time for him go to.
Goonster, he speaks very highly of you….
Obi, perhaps in football, the retirement age should have been 60….. Lol
Howdy rico, who rattled Scott’s cage lol.
Hi Micko…
Just going through the comments rico, very enjoyable, a right rivoting read today.
Kev, if Leicester win 6 of their last 9 games I can’t see anyone pipping them.
I like days like today Micko…
Well, apart from Ofr going off on one….
Rico 😀
I suppose you’ll be watching Utd v Dippers tonight goonster?
You bet I will maam…just for laughs though.
A few more injuries for Utd would be nice…. Just muscular of course… Lol
Guys, point of order….I didn’t call the man a dickhead, I said he is one.
Funny that people on here have and will continue to call Wenger names, and a lot worse than dickhead, but heaven forbid calling a guy non of us even know one.
I said he is one for his hypocrisy, not his opinion, but as is always the case, people choose to ignore the facts about comments and run with what suits them.
Seriously, I’m astounded people are being so precious about this.
Kev, they are at the printers as we speak.
Some Yank mob is printing them.
If you sop calling fans names, you might get one 🙂
Micko, is that application in yet?
Stan awaits with baited breath.
AO, Mi.
Is there a difference Scott? Lol
🙂
Work beckons……blllaaaaaaaahhhhhh.
Later, Rico.
Don’t work too hard Scott…
Nah rico we newest every other team fit till the end of the season. Except west ham Everton shitty and west brom of course 😀 we need the others to take points off the spuds and leceister. Maybe just maybe we might nick it. Lol
Good point goonie, although we don’t want Utd nicking our 4th spot… 😉
Newest??? That should read need.
Lol rico I think we ll do better than that. Maybe a top 2. Who knows spurs and leceister city’s run in looks ominous. Hopefully we can take advantage of aan slip ups. But it’s going to be a long March and april.
Don’t Leicester have an easy run in on paper?
Well that’s on paper maam but chelsea away spuds at home and I think United home don’t look easy on the eye. Lol.
Darn shame they play Chelsea on the last day as if by some miracle it goes that far, I wouldn’t put it past the Chavs to lose…
Plus I think they still have to play liverpool too if am not mistaken.
Ah, but we’ve still got to win ours, that’s the worrying bit…
Lol that’s the problem maam. We have 3 big games till the end of the season and they are all away from home. Shitty west ham and everton. It’s going to be tough rico.
I know goonie, very tough. But maybe the little chat between the team will reap rewards… Lol
Hopefully the crisis meeting will have the desired effect and we ll go on our annual streak of winning 8 games in a row before the end of the season. Hopefully others would have capitulated then giving us a free run to the title. A guy can dream, no? Lol
Great minds ?
Like minds rico…am a genius 😀
Lol well did it again.
I know Scott won’t like this but maybe Rambo bring injured is a blessing in disguises. Hey atleast this forces wenger to play elneny and Campbell. Those are our current in form players. They need to start every game henceforth. Elneny ll thrive ozil and Campbell. He’s a ball player and as we ve seen he can also thread a pass and hit it from distance too.
My word this phone makes me sound like a dunce. I hate this new generation phones. Let’s go back to analog people. Digital sucks balls.
Smart phones my ass.
Anyone watching the chavs vs Paris game??
I’d rather Ramsey was fit….
Not me, that’s for sure…
Off to catch up on my planner so night Goonster and all.
There won’t be a post in the morning as I have to go out very early and won’t be around until late in the afternoon. Just in case anyone thinks about sending out a search party,… Lol
Great First half at Motspur Park for the U21’s.
In pouring rain goals by Hinds Bola and Mavididi put us 3-0 up
Just 2 points behined the leaders Derby with 3 games in hand.
Scott, I’d love to tell ya but I’ve signed the Official Secrets Act ! Sorry buddy.
Ha, Good nite Chelsea, Big Nose puts PSG 2-1 up with 25 to go.
rico, you really need to start getting your priorites in order lol…..nite matey.
Stan, in all fairness, I’ve said for a while Aaron has been blood average, and he has failed dismally playing deep and central, but maybe a break will help him as well, so no issue there bud.
Micko, just remember, I’m your Mr 12% 🙂
Final score 3-0
13 of the squad played in the youth Cup against the dippers, now 7games undefeated.
Kev midfield of Sheaf Bennacer and Mcgane looking very strong
could be the key to promotion
That’s true Mick, and tbh Leicester deserve to win it…
But if they lose a few points and their lead shrinks a bit the nerves will start to kick in and that could lead to more dropped points.
Arsenal supporters should worry more about wanking off in the PL & CL for the last decade that a poxy fucking banner!
Get over it.
Most eloquently expressed Brudder. 🙂
I izza poet and I know it…..
But it’s TRUE Brudder, people need to get a grip!
Fights in the street , bottles thrown ,Avenell Road awash with baying supporters general unrest…………………….., result :- Terry Neill gets sacked.
George Eastham and Joe Baker are sold .The North Bank and Clock end are virtually empty , pictures of The Beverley sisters are burned on the terraces…………result ………………Billy Wright is sacked.
This lot have held up a very polite banner.
Lee you are 100% spot on.
Brudder. I know. Watching the passing game of PSG last night reminded me how far off the pace we have fallen.
It appears some believe these putting up a banner have the right to express their opinion, yet those who criticise the “fans” putting up that banner do not.
Gotta love freedom of speech hahahahaha
Good Morning Chips and Chops.
Scott…..everyone has a right to opinion.
Morning d***s… 😉
So the players held a crisis meeting then, yet tom yesterday thinks all is ok at Arsenal lol..
Good to see Chelsea out as they were the only ones who could have taken that 4th CL spot we love.
I’m cheering the pool on tonight, can’t stand utd.
Scott there are already banners at our ground showing their support for the club and manager .Obviously the one in question would not be allowed to be displayed there so it has to go away to be seen. No-one tears down the supportive ones at the Emirates but the same cannot be said for those that are against this particular one.
Potter, how dare people show up to a game and show the club and manager support!
I’m astounded such treachery is allowed.
What is wrong with this world?
Another of our dogs, Cosmic Gunner, just bolted on at his first start.
The Arsenal dogs are kicking goals at present.
There is a right to air your grievances and also counter them. That banner says all we’ve been agreeing here. Wenger did us good and now it’s time to go. That’s the general concesus.
Now when a fan puts it on a banner he gets called a dickhead..or is a dickhead- whatever the difference is.
Marshall,
I called that person a dickhead for his hypocrisy.
I’ve explained that quite clearly on several occasions, yet still, some ignore it.
You’re just another in line and there’s no prizes for 15th……good effort, though lol
Slowly, slowly, slowly……must be the time difference bahahahahahahahaha
It’s okay to say Wenger out on blogs and not ok to put it out there where he and the entire world can see? Double faced **
As I said, you’re very, very slow.
Please, can someone fill him in on what’s transpired.
Guys, point of order….I didn’t call the man a dickhead, I said he is one….
Hahaha.. yeah real clear.
Kel, i won’t call you a dickhead,
I won’t even say you are one….promise.
Scott, oh so npw you called him ypu didn’t say he is. Still confused there. I do not want any prizes since like wenger you cant offer any. Who are you to call him a hypocrate? He did what he thought was right if you want something different go do it your damn self.
Apparently he was interviewed after the game and he gave his reasons. Did you try to hear him out or you chose to call him a hypocrate cause you’re of different opinion. Fts! It was his opinion. Live with it!
Clear as mud!
Its ok scott its not your fault you live upside down, so what’s clear to you, is the opposite to us this side. 🙂
It’s apparent the banner holder supports Arsenal not Arsene any more, I mean Hull on Tuesday night you gotta love the Gunners!
English is English…..apparently not the first language over there.
I mean, HYPOCRATE???
Is that some sort of wooden box on SPEED!!
How do I argue with that crap?
Sensational stuff.
The comedy value alone is worth the effort bahahahahahahahahahaha
Lee, how many of the other BIG CLUBS are still in the Cup??
How many are above us in the League?
Still in CL???
Lol very clear.
The fans go to support the club and manager? Lol the club is always the number one priority. Look at O.T for example, they are always there despite being vocal against LvG and especially Moyes era.
The boos against Joel’s substitution shows fans put the club before a slow thinking senile manager.
Scott , don’t be so obtuse , that’s not my point , they have shown a very peaceful and in fact polite banner stating their beliefs which they are entitled to do . The support inside the stadium is what you would expect and is fine. however it cannot be avoided that the number that feel Wenger’s days are done is growing and the club need either to change tack or else do nothing in which case the disenchantment will grow.
Marshall, some, like you, don’t actually support either the club or the manager,
Some, like you, criticise all and sundry, all the time.
Some, like you, are not worth the effort.
Seems like the monks flipped the dictionary before it got to some part of the world.
It’s pathetic when an AKB starts arguing like one AW. About to get a new defination of big now.
Potter, The man is, IMO, what I said he was, and he definitely is a hypocrite, IMO!!
The facts is so many on here and other Arsenal groups/pages jump on the popular train of thought….that’s human nature, to feel accepted.
Bravo.
When was the last time people on here all shut the hell up about the lack of signings for ONE BLOODY DAY???
Just one.
When was the last time everyone got behind the entire club including the manager for ONE DAY,???
Wenger is a problem.
Stan is a problem.
The clubs “supporters”, though, are the biggest problem.
Other clubs laugh at us and we load the gun for them to fire off shots.
What do we, as a group, do??
We fire away at the players or manager.
It’s easy to show support when we are winning, isn’t it?
Scott. Who the fuck are you to know it all who and what I support. You are used to AW bullshit and buy all the crap load he sells you so excise me for wanting something better.
And I give zero fucks of what you think about me and my stand for the club. Shove them up your anal cavities. Thank you.
“Lee, how many of the other BIG CLUBS are still in the Cup??
How many are above us in the League?
Still in CL???”
Is that your yard stick?? lololol
The holy grail of the FA Cup? I expect more from Arsenal…
The league ends in May, and we should of pissed it this year BUT Wenger fucked it wholesale!
Barca will knock us out of the CL next week….
All in all another failed season, I’m over the moon with that from The Arsenal….
Oooohhhh Marshall, so you can call me an AKB and that’s ok?
Well done ya hard man Spud bahahahahahahahaha
Is this untold I’m on.. or Highbury house.. so now your telling Marshall that he’s not a supporter..
Lee, have you EVER read my comment that Wenger should’ve left in 2014???
Yes or no?????
Kel, I notice you haven’t the balls to ask him why he calls me an AKB.
Good man, you are lol.
Bandwagon……sheep.
Oh, and it’s more like LG with you lot lol
Lol scotts in melt down lol
Bahahahaha…
Kel, not at all.
I’m just laughing at you lot,
This is fun.
Read Marshalls last effort……meltdown, MUCH bahahahahahahahaha
Mashed Spud right there.
I appreciate all the views on here, even if I don’t necessarily agree with them…
I like to see a healthy debate, minus name calling of course, as it would be boring if we all agreed…
The thing about the positive banners at the Emirates is an obvious one in my view. It’s just the club trying to make our soul less bowl feel more like a football stadium. Nobody really takes any notice of them, well I don’t, as they are all a bit contrived and antiseptic..,
That sort of stuff just passes me by..,
The anti-Wenger banner, for as much as I can sympathise with its point, I still cannot help but feel that its ungracious and it makes me feel uncomfortable as I know that there’s a myriad of idiots out there in the media, desperate to shit stir and I hate giving them ammunition…
Scott quote me calling you an AKB. If the shoe fits. Well here is a pair…
Yes Scott I have BUT you seem to be the one going off at a tangent.
I except that kev… although calling it anti wenger which i understand but i don’t think is completely right for me thats not how I personally see it for me that banner says..
I want better for Arsenal its time for a change Unfortunately wengers name is on it as he is the manager but I have huge respect for him.
Always will.
Kev, trolls will attempt to bait me, and I’ll bite because Fukk them….I will say my piece and not what others want to hear.
I’ll support ANYONE at the club who I think is doing their best.
That doesn’t mean I don’t want better, and it certainly doesn’t mean I agree with everything they do, but why the hell do people think criticising and insulting Wenger will change things!
Even if a manager change is on the horizon, and as I’ve said for ages, it should be, it isn’t happening right now, so anyone with banner at a game at this point in time is a dickhead, and I’ll stand by that call, and if it offends some on here, bad luck.
Why now??
CL Is basically over, but there is a game to go.
FA Cup is a realistic target, who everyone celebrates when we win, but laughs it off as a joke when it suits.
The League is a slim chance, but it ain’t over.
Why NOW.?
Why is it people who dare support Wenger cop the most criticism?
Why is abuse of the man accepted?
Why is it nobody can answer me the last single time we went a day without bitching?
That’s embarrassing.
I agree with that Kev , I wish that we had not reached this stage. You go to the ground and probably like me have seen the worm turning. Slowly but surely the Wenger out train is gaining momentum. However I still sense from the crowd that although many are not vocal when the team is on the pitch there is an atmosphere of support for the team but also a fair amount of mutterings of frustration when things are not going our way.
Scott criticism is fine , insults however are a different thing.
Lee, am I?
Really?
So I call someone none of us know a dickhead, yet it comes back to Wenger?
Funny how so many say it’s Arsenal FC, not Arsene FC, yet all they talk about is the man.
When a banner points the finger at one person, then the “gentleman” states Wenger is not solely responsible, I call hypocrite.
Name them all, ya bum!
Shit, show some conviction lol
We are better than the big clubs. BigF*nHooray. There will be a medal for it. Such logic or lack of it got us here.
Potter, yet calling a man a dickhead is frowned upoon, while calling Wenger a French C**t or Le Fraud is acceptable.
Whatever suits the mood, mate.
Kel, I see exactly where you are coming from mate, it’s frustrating I know, but I just don’t feel happy seeing anti-Wenger or whatever banners, it’s just me, call it old-fashioned but I don’t like to see that kind of thing from Arsenal supporters…
You know mate, I’ll tell you what made Arsenal’s Board sit up and take notice.
It was the Swansea attendance, not tickets sold, we all know that that’s bullshit…
If fans want change, stay away, it’s the only thing that really works…
Where do we start ? How about Peter Hill wood , Danny Fiszman , Lady Nina , David Dein , Ken Friar people that claimed to be mere custodians of the club then took money for their shares from Kroenke , trousered a bloody fortune and gave none of it back to the club .
Digger, not everyone is gonna agree, that’s part and parcel of a blog, but we don’t want ours denigrating into a kind of Le Grove mate…
Who said what to whom is history now, but I’m really not enjoying seeing Arsenal fans today, digging each other out…
Let’s keep it civil on here mate…
It’s all Waths fault tbh….
The morning shift is done, the afternoon shift begins.
Night all.
Sort this lot out, Micko!!
Potter, that’s pretty much how I see it, those at the ground, either suffer in silence, support Wenger but are increasingly struggling to justify that position, or plan to stop going at the end of this season, as a good friend of mine is planning to do.
It’s sad, but the end of a manager is never a celebration is it?
Maybe that’s the Answer kev… A drop in attendance I for one would vote for that over any banner… but at the same time I gotta respect the banner as I believe Arsenal do need change…
Maybe a banner saying..
“TIME FOR CHANGE”
would that work better.. would it be more pc.
Kev, seems someone fired the first shot by stating we are like Untold……..a group that does nothing but support the club, though often, quite blindly.
Funny that they thought that was criticism lol.
Civil…….French C**t is apparently seen as civil by plenty.
Night mate.
I gotta go back to work…
Night Scott…
Yeah Kel, I accept your feelings on the banner, after all the guys involved actually go to the away games, so respect to them.
But for me, there is a better way
Lata
Untold has a history of telling people to go support someone else if you question Wenger.. This we all know..
Telling Marshall that he isn’t worth the effort and he doesn’t support the club.. is along those lines.
In the end of the day only one guy on here who calls fellow supporter’s dickheads..
Once you start that then it’s inevitable the debate will deteriorate imo..
Afternoon, I,ve seen banners before that havn,t got this much attention, Is it the fact that Wrighty got involved? Iv,e seen the chaps interview on Arsenalfan tv who put up the Banner and he did come across as genuine enough and was reflective on why he is frustrated and hurting with the last few years of Wenger,s tenure and just felt he needed to make a statement with it.
I,m sure he and a majority of the fans do feel that it is the only outlet they have to voice their opinion, personally I think to an extent it was a respectful protest in the sentiment that it was printed and put across. Also according to a latest poll taken, out of 1333 Votes, 58% agree with and support the banner, there is certainly a lot of deserved discontent towards AW, but it should be equally reflected towards the board, as it,s they that set the manager’s objectives, appraise his performances and pays his wages,
Very positive, news on Mertesacker and Gabriel, there is nothing wrong there, they are both good. Said AW, while Ramsey still awaiting news on his thigh injury
The first shot was fired by Scott calling the banner geezer a dickhead!
I’m off to chew a brick….
That’s good news dublin on mert and Gabriel.. apparently Ramsey is 6 wks.. 🙁
I’ll catch up later guys.
That was me holding that banner.
Classic AW divertion. Off with the negative vibe.
We’re about to have a run of 3 games in a week, glad to hear the positive news on Per and Gabriel. No more injuries please.
I know….
At the risk of repeating myself as I said yesterday I actually know the bloke who made the banner. Even has a proud picture of himself with it on Facebook. Believe me, when my brother was told about the guys true views about not wanting us to win the league he passed a message on to him calling a lot worse than a dickhead! ?
Hiya Bob. How are you. Ok?
Lol, Adam. And I bet you’re not a d**head.
Afternoon rico and the house
IMO any one who is willing to spend his hard earned cash following the team around the country has a right to state his opinion. This banner has been going around for years now and like myself they want change. I certainly wouldn’t call the person who displayed the banner a dickhead.
your out of order Scott…
Adam that makes you a dickhead…. 😆
Hi devil
All good thanks. Looking forward to the next instalment of ‘Bannergate’! 🙂
Brexit and we got Wengexit…….
If i,m really honest a few times through the past few seasons, I think i,ve said on here before, I,ve reluctantly wished us misfortune in the respect that we,d miss out on Champions league, admittedly so to get back at the board and AW, in order to give them a kick up the backside, but I don,t think that makes me any less a fan, just infuriated by the antics of the way the club was run, and the realisation that AW is not the main to take us forward.
Maybe the banner guy, has felt the same way from time to time.
Don’t we all have ‘I’m sick of Wenger’ moments and then in the next post we,re AKB’s, died in the wool!
I know I’ve been very changeable in my attitude to the aged one! Sadly I think I’m a bit like one of Orwell’s sheep in ‘Animal Farm’ who ever is speaking loudest I’m persuaded to believe!
I guess I must be a bit of a knob! But I reserve the right to think, say and do as my whim takes me. Freedom of speech and all that…….!
However, I would remind Arsenal Football Club that as a newly renamed “customer” that they must abide by the tried and tested method and apply the dictum that, “the customer is always right”. As such the banner waving fan should be allowed to express his view whenever and wherever he chooses, home or away. I don’t have to agree with him but I do believe he can and should air his beliefs if he feels he must! And who are we to criticise?
Brudder, Marshall. I am afraid so. 🙂
Dickhead through and through.
Frustration makes people crazy. This what so many cannot understand. It is possible to feel affection and thanks for Arsene and yet still believe that it’s time for him to step aside. There is no spite in many cases, just an unavoidable feeling that the time has come.
Many aspects of life end in tears. I would honestly like to see him leave on a high but am aware that, after his very odd behaviour in the last few transfer windows many, including me, thought that he had made his own bed here and could have no complaints if it went wrong. He really can’t have it both ways and certainly cannot blame injuries this time. These are the injuries many of us predicted. Not because we know better but because we have seen it all before.
As I said, this is his team, his squad and all assembled by him. The responsibility can lie nowhere else which is why I find his recent belligerence so strange.
ha ha too bad Adam.
Seems Ian Wright isn’t the only one missing the point here. What do I know am not even a fan.
Afternoon all…
Goodness me, seems it’s all gone tits up today – still the dust seems to have settled…
Or Scott’s sleeping… 😉
Afternoon Rico.
Afternoon Adam, looks like I picked a good day to be busy elsewhere… Lol
True Rico. A little bit of aggro is sometimes necessary, according to my 3rd wife anyway.
As a one off Adam, I’d agree… You told me your 2nd wife was the one who liked a bit of aggro….
Rico. Yes, you’re right. I do get confused these days. Number 3 was actually very sweet. But only on certain occasions. 🙂
? Adam.
Adam 😀
Howdy rico and house…lol just like you I picked the wrong day to go awol. Hey Scott Marshall Potter and kel I want a piece of the action 😀 let’s do it all over again 😀 am waiting.
Hi goonster, I’d rather no repeat of today tbh. That’s not HH and not why I do it…
Awwwww shucks rico. Come on its fun. Let’s cut loose and hurl some obscenities at each other 😀 it’s therapeutic. As my doctor. Lol
Not here goonie…
Lol rico…Alright. you re the boss 😀
Are you watching the spuds vs dortmund game?
No chance Goonie, not watching that lot….
Lol why not? Who knows dele alli might pop an artery or kane cracks his skull 😀 I always look forward to our rivals picking up injuries 😀 yeah am evil I know it. Lol
I’d rather wait for the replay if that were to happen… 😉
Evening all, with the risk of adding fuel to the fire, I’d make Arsene walk out in a pink onesie this weekend for our game against Watford ! I feel that strongly.
Nothing wrong with a bit of verbal sword fighting as long as it doesn’t get personal, most of the guys on here have been around for a few years now and we’ve got to know each other’s traits over that time, be a shame to fall out over dear ole Arsene.
Oi Micko, don’t forget the gals! Although Agag seems to have left us these days so I’m all alone…. 😉
I wish Agag had refrained from seeking a new job…..
Mick, I think you would look stunning in a pink onesie..,
I’m upset Kev, what about me in a pink onesie? 😉
Morning all.
Kel, LG banned me for defending Wenger.
The reason given…..constant use of bad language.
Proven-I never swore once, yet was called every name under the sun.
Untold ain’t the only one, though I’ve never seen them condone likeminded members abusing the crap out of others and swearing at them, so comparing the two is ignorant, at best.
As for Marshall, well he isn’t worth the effort, as he’s been on a trolling mission of late.
I’m glad you’ve all managed to totally ignore Bobs 1.16.
It proves to me that I’m spot on-people jump on a bandwagon to feel good about themselves.
Here’s a comment from someone with some knowledge of the “gentleman”, yet none of you have the decency to take a step back and say maybe he is what I said he is……..he wants us to fail, yet you all defend him?
Staunch supporters, these Arsemal folk…well, of each other lol.
To focus on one particular word and base your point of view and argument on that is so petty, it’s laughable, and ignoring Bobs comment shows you aren’t interested in the truth, but just a slinging match.
The comments and attacks from some on here mean very little.
Those from people I’ve met are extremely disappointing.
Come on Scott, get over it. The whole affair is no more than a storm in a tea cup. Leave it be and let’s all move on. There are far more important things to discuss on here like shall we see Ramsey kick a ball again this season?
Scott. I have always respected your view and comments, you know that. But I’m not sure why you have been so argumentative today. You are like a dog with a bone and it’s not fair on me or anyone else…
Clearly you can’t see why name calling is not right when it’s Wenger, but it’s ok to slate other Arsenal fans… And I think that’s the biggest problem..
Name calling imo is not nice, regardless of who it’s directed at…
Rico scott is just brooding. He ll be fine. We all know he always comes around eventually.
Goonster, and then you call Wenger that. What hope is there eh? The man doesn’t deserve that regardless of the crap the club is going through…
And shove your dog meat comments too goonie!! No more on here!!
Night guys….
Totts lost 3-0, shame eh….
Hahahahahahaha rico it’s all banter maam. Chill out :D.
The dog bit I ll take back but wenger??? No way he describes all that and more. Fuck him.
*Deserves
Great now you re censoring me??? Lol just great just great. It’s all good. Later guys there’s a chocolate cake with my name waiting for me. Peace 😀
It’s all good, Stan.
Name calling and personal attacks shouldnt happen, though we get caught up in the moment, at times.
I’ll admit its not fair to call someone iver never met a dickhead
I still say the man is a hypocrite and nothing will change my mind on that, but who’s to say hes a dickhead, really…..im in no position to make tha7y call.
Im still dirty at some of the comments on here by people i have respect for, but so be it.
Wavy, look back……..how you can have a go at me for dragging this out is funny.
Every time i jump back on, there are numerous comments from others ensuring it atays in the spotlight, buy as i keep saying, people see exactly what they want to.
Will it die, now?
I hope so, but thats for others to decide.
rico 6.52, just had a flash-back from the 80’s….no, not Terry Neil but “Owner of a lonely heart” ! What a classic that was.
Agag will be back when the spring sales are over, you wait and see.
Tough times to defend AW. These frustrations have been building up during all these transfer windows without serious activities. But, is he all or just the easy pickings???
WHERE is the American? The money grabbing American, who is so comfortable with 4th and the money Arsenal brings in. If you ask me I don’t think he knows an iota of how fans are feeling. He care less about trophies as long as the money is pouring in. Well, he crossed the Atlantic Ocean and invest in Arsenal, he might as well be rewarded. The man doesn’t even love the game.
Apologies rico for lowering the tone of HH no hard feelings I hope lol 🙂
Scott you refer to bobs comment, fair enough but I’d say it’s more along the lines of Dublins comment @2:16 we could just go on and on all day about this m8, I think it’s time to call it a day now tbh.
So spurs got smashed 3-0 is that a good thing? I’m not so sure..
And I see that Scholes doesn’t want utd turning into Arsenal and settling for 4th.. never liked him.. but he has a point.
Reus and Aubameyang were lively last night…..they’d slot nicely into Arsenal’s starting 11.
Add a ball playing DM and a CB we’d be ready to go….. oh and a new manager! 😉
What no keeper Lee? 😉
Morning all…
So you’ve finished BB….. cracking ending!
Morning Rico, Brudder.
Breaking Bad?
Yep Brudder not Big Brother! 😉
Manchester United legend Paul Scholes has aimed a dig at rivals Arsenal, saying that the Gunners’ joy in finishing fourth and winning the FA Cup every season cannot become a trend at United.
Scholes was speaking as a pundit during United’s 2-0 Europa League first-leg defeat by Liverpool last night.
United have yet to win a trophy since Sir Alex Ferguson stepped down as manager in 2013, finshing fourth in the league last season, and seventh in 2014.
“Manchester United should be competing to win the Premier League and Champions League every season,” the former midfielder told BT Sport.
“They have spent £300 million and they are sixth in the league. They have ended up in the Europa League after failing in a poor Champions League group. They should be competing with Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.
“The last thing I want for them is to be happy with finishing fourth and winning the FA Cup. That’s what Arsenal do ever year. You see them celebrate out on the pitch when they come fourth in the Premier League. That can’t happen at United.”
He might be a snide, but Scholes has a point…
Morning Rico,
Morning Curry Clubbers
I have Lee, and really enjoyed it. The end was great but once Walt didn’t park his car where he was told, something was going to happen but hadn’t a clue it would be that good… 😉
Morning Adam and Kev.
Mind you, if Scholes is ever manager at Old Bog, and they finished 4th and won the FACup, I bet he wouldn’t dis it then…
Exactly Kev…
I bet old Ginger is still reeling from missing his penalty in 2005…
New post up now..