Morning all.
Before the season kicked off, Ange Postecoglou told Sky Sports that he usually wins silverware in his second season at a club. Before the NLD, he reiterated his point by adding:
I’ll correct myself: I don’t usually win things, I always win things in my second year. Nothing has changed. I don’t say things I don’t believe in.
Paul Merson’s response after Sunday’s battering by Arsenal:
I like Ange, I like him. But I’ve got more chance of winning Strictly Come Dancing than Ange winning something in his second season!
And we know what Merson’s chances of winning Strictly are…
It’s Champions League week this week with Arsenal’s women playing the first leg of their qualifying tie against BK Hacken last night in Sweden. The game ended in a 1-0 defeat which means they have it all to do in the return leg which takes place next Thursday.
Tonight it’s the men’s turn as they face Atalanta in Italy at 8pm.
The Gewiss Stadium holds just 25,000 fans and for European competitions only, is referred to as Stadio di Bergamo just The Emirates is referred to as the Arsenal Stadium in Europe as UEFA don’t recognise sponsors.
Until last season when Atalanta shocked Liverpool in the Europa League quarter-final at Anfield back in April of this year by beating them 3-0, I’d never heard of them. Or if I had, they didn’t stick in my memory. The Italian side then caused another big shock by beating Bayer Leverkusen 3-0 in the Europa League Final in May.
Atalanta are no strangers to the Champions League but have never gone further than the quarter-final stage. Other than their Europa League Cup win, most of their trophy haul has come from winning Serie B. Last season they finished 4th in Serie A, at the moment, they sit in 9th place.
A few familiar faces could line up against Arsenal tonight. Sean Kolasinac, Ademola Lookman, Ben Godfrey and Juan Cuadrado, all who have played Premier League football at some stage in their career. Gianluca Scamacca Is at the club too but an ACL injury means he’s likely to miss most if not all of the season. Gian Piero Gasperini was appointed manager Back in 2016 and has remained in place ever since.
After that incredible victory over Bayer Leverkusen, Gasperini said:
I think we wrote history, also for the way we won it. It was just extraordinary, we defeated Liverpool, Sporting who won the championship. When we faced Liverpool they were first in the Premier League. And now the German champions. Incredible. The boys were extraordinary, a memorable performance.
I’ve read a bit about how Atalanta play and they’re not a obvious pressing team apparently but what they do do is use their wingers to cut in and try to intercept their opponents passes out from the back. They move a lot in and out of possession without losing their shape. They don’t chase lost causes, which helps as far as preserving energy goes but they do close down opponents like flies on jam. (Alternative analogies can be inserted)
Gasperini usually deploys three at the back with the wingbacks flying up and down the flanks. They’re not afraid to face attacking pressure as they break hard and fast and can go over the top, around or through an opponents midfield. One thing they don’t seem to do is fire aerial crosses into the box.
Bayer’s defending for the goals was pretty shoddy to say the least and having watched some of the Liverpool defeat, Klopp’s team didn’t defend very well either, nor were they very good in front of goal. Regardless, Bayer are a good team which is capable of causing many opponents real problems.
Declan Rice is back tonight of course, Riccardo Calafiori and Bukayo Saka trained yesterday but Martin Odegaard won’t return for a while.
Mikel Arteta on Martin Odegaard’s injury:
After everything was scanned, they showed that there was some damage, especially in one of the ligaments in the ankle so we’re going to miss him. I don’t want to [put a timeframe on it] because I am not a doctor but it is something quite significant so we’re going to lose him for a while – hopefully not months but let’s see.
Sounds more like months to me as ligament damage takes a while to repair. He joins Kieran Tierney, Takehiro Tomiyasu, Oleksandr Zinchenko and Mikel Merino on the injury list.
Any chance of early rotation tonight, especially with the game against Man City just a few days away?
No we are in September so we have to put the players that we believe are the best to win tomorrow. That’s the most important and only thing for us. – Mikel Arteta.
Experienced creative midfielders are in short supply at Arsenal but the Leandro Trossard ‘experiment’ was far from being a failure in our last match. Who is there in the game who can replicate the skill and level our captain plays when he’s on form? Few I think and bearing in mind Trossard isn’t used to playing more central, I thought he did well against Totts. The more he plays, the more effective he’ll become I’m sure.
The one thing we do know about this group of Arsenal players is that whoever plays, they will give their all for the shirt on their back.
Enjoy the game guys, catch up later.
Morning Rico
I’ve been to Bergamo. Beautiful city. One of the wealthiest places in Italy, so the football is an afterthought.
This ‘super-league’ format gives some wriggle room, so I’d be happy with a draw tonight.
Morning Pete. I’d take a draw too.
Watched some of Atalanta highlights of the Liverpool and Bayer games and they’re good. Or at least can be if given space and time.
Good post Rico, the Premier League is the hardest League to win but the Champions League is in a league of its own, you can be in control of a game and seemingly coasting to a good result and then the wheels fall off, Lens (a) is a prime example.
Finishing top eight is vital as it saves you from two extra games in the playoffs.
I watched about an hour of 115 City vs Inter game yesterday evening and Inter looked a well-drilled team who maybe should have scored a couple of times on the break, City looked a bit undercooked but maybe this is a deliberate ploy by Guardiola, saving energy for the second half of the season?
Good Morning Rico and all.
I hope you don’t mind Rico but I’ve repeated my earlier comment. “I think we’ll miss Odegaard more than City miss KdB at the weekend. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Nwaneri start this evening, equally I wouldn’t be surprised if he stayed on the bench. 😉”. Bringing in a replacement for an injured player doesn’t really count as rotation as rotation does it?🙄
Double rotation is a new tactic. Honest! 😉
Thanks Kev. Yep, last thing we need is more fixtures.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13868573/Former-Arsenal-striker-charged-importing-drugs-600-000-cannabis-seized-Stansted-Airport.html
Morning Cicero, of course not.
The Odegaard injury is a huge blow for us. But, when one door shuts, sometimes another opens for someone else.
Did J.E.Thomas ever play in the 1st team, even the League Cup, I can’t recall?
So he’s played lots of football elsewhere but the headline says ‘Arsenal striker’…
Journalists are just a bunch of wankers…
Very difficult game today.
Wasn’t it his mother that threatened to deck Mick MaCarthy when he was on loan at Ipswich.
According to Wiki he played for 66 minutes in a cup tie against Stoke and was subbed off . Some Arsenal career. But “bit player at 15 clubs ” as a headline doesn’t sell papers.
According to The Sun (yeah I know) Inter Milan, Juventus and Napoli are interested in a January move (yeah it’s started already) for Tomiyasu.
Tomiyasu recently signed a new lucrative contract with Arsenal.
More pointedly Serie A teams don’t want to pay realistic fees in anyway whatsoever – so why would Tomi want to go and why would Arsenal even want to sell on the cheap?
Todd Bohley’s influence at Chelsea certainly seems to be on the wane after a succession of poor decisions by him (transfers) and on the back of that Mudryk is being linked with a January move to Marseilles. Loan or sale, who knows?
Would Arteta revisit or has he totally moved on?
Ainsley Maitland Niles’ Mum I think regarding McCarthygate at Ipswich.
Uh OK my mistake .
Now on talk radio being reported as ex Arsenal striker all for 66 minutes.
Must admit, the reference to Arsenal made me chuckle. Plonkers…
I really like Tomiyasu but if a realistic offer came in for him, Arsenal might be interested in selling him. A fit Tomiyasu is an asset but he’s seldom fit. Same with Zinchenko.
Arsenal’s Adrian Clarke:
3-4-2-1 is Gasperini’s most likely choice against us – the shape the 66-year-old used to defeat Bayer Leverkusen in the Europa League final. Out of possession Atalanta almost always adopt a man-to-man marking approach, and they press with discipline and intent. They do not make it easy for opponents to play through the lines.
On the ball, their front three are encouraged to interchange positions, which makes them a fluid, entertaining side to watch. Both wing-backs stay high and wide, with a pair of defensive sitting midfielders holding the engine room together. Atalanta are a terrific counter-attacking side, with just one Serie A team producing more direct attacks last term.
Retegui’s [above] finishing and aerial power must be respected, and Belgian attacking midfielder Charles De Ketelaere is another opponent who needs to be shackled closely inside the final third. Their star turn though, is Lookman. The Nigerian is a clever dribbler with searing pace, and the ability to strike the ball cleanly with either foot. He will drift in off the left, looking to cause havoc whenever the hosts build an attack.
Gasperini doesn’t mind leaving his defenders 1v1, but longer passes or quality third-man runs can undo them. They have conceded a joint-high eight goals in their first four league matches, and it won’t have gone unnoticed that half of those concessions stemmed from set-pieces.
Atalanta U19’s
beat
Arsenal U19’s
4-1
Australia moving inexorably towards taking a 1-0 in the ODI’s
Let’s hope it’s not to be a trio of rotten results..
Team to play Atalanta: Raya, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Timber, Rice, Partey, Havertz, Saka, Jesus, Martinelli.
Subs: Neto, Porter, Calafiori, Lewis-Skelly, Kiwior, Jorginho, Nwaneri, Gower, S. Oulad-M’Hand, Trossard, Sterling, Butler-Oyedeji.
We have history with this referee, not very encouraging history…
COYG
This game is bringing back some fond memories of Torino in 1993/94.
Grind out a 1-0 and I’ll be perfectly happy…
David Raya 👏👏
I’ve yet to see Stirling do anything, in admittedly a small sample size, to make me sit up, he looks quite average to me.
He has done even less than Jesus who managed fifty-five minutes of total ineffectiveness.
Miraculous double save by Raya, I’m coming round to believing that he deserves to be our number one “keeper. 😉
That was a good result for us, a great rehearsal for the City game. But please Arteta don’t waste a shirt on Jesus.
Good night Gooners, everywhere. 😴
Ha ha Cicero, me too…
Jesus was either really rusty or just really poor..
Good result, night guys.
I’m really quite worried about Jesus, the player we initially enjoyed and lionised when he first arrived from Man City is now a distant distant memory, he seems completely incapable of holding onto the ball when it’s knocked up to him, and he is challenged whilst falling over rarely earns him a free kick so I’m not sure what he brings to our attack?
Sticking him on the flank still remains an option because our attack simply doesn’t function with him up front but where does that leave an equally uninspiring Rahem Stirling?
I guess we and particularly myself, needs to give Stirling a bit more time to integrate but any faint hopes I had of Arsenal turning his loan into a permanent move next summer are fading fast. He needs to show us a lot lot more before Arsenal could ever consider offering him the kind of wages he’d demand, it’s just a no go!
Martinelli is obviously a big concern to us all but to me he still works so bloody hard and does some amazing defensive work and is worth his place in these kinds of games where we need to dig in and grind out results, Trossard cannot offer us his energy and industry on the wing, for me Leo is far more valuable in a more central role so I’m not comparing them.
Tonight, more so than at Tottenham, we really missed Odegaard’s ability between the lines, therefore I hope that Arteta reverts to his Spuds pick of Trossard/Havertz combo up front for Sunday at Eastlands.
The 2nd half I sensed some tired legs which I hope doesn’t smack us in the mush this weekend.
Offer me another 0-0 and I’d snatch it and run.
Just watch news clip of Raya’s double save from the penalty, magnificent work by Raya, and great to see the players run up to him. but we were lucky that the Atlanta player headed it towards Raya and not straight or slightly to the right as I am not sure Raya would have got to it.
Here’s a bit of good news, Arsenal will not be playing in next summer’s FIFA Club World Cup. Only Chelsea and City have qualified. Phew! Our players can have a bit of a rest.
Headline from Telegraph Sport this morning. “Raya”s reactions add to sense goalkeeper is the best in Europe.”
From the sublime to the ridiculous, on the following page “Ex-Arsenal player on cannabis charge”.
War of attrition , both teams negated each other and waited for their chance . We had a couple and they had the penalty but apart from that it was fairly boring to watch.
I too am not sure exactly what Jesus is bringing to the party , he looks either disinterested or perhaps just past it as does Sterling who I am sure was a trolley dash aquisition made purely because of Merino’s injury.
Until we get the attacking side of the midfield sorted we are going to have to perm Jorginho ,Partey and Nwaheri although Calafiori looks good enough to step up if required so I reckon we are in for a few more rearguard action matches .
Just got to keep picking up points and see where we are when we get the squad back up and running.
Morning One and All…
Get past Man City unbeaten and the season opens up, we’ll then be facing the kind of teams Man City have been playing, you know Ipswich, West Ham etc and we can be more expansive.
Gotta stay in the hunt for when Odegaard and Merino return.
The only first choice starter missing from yesterday’s eleven was Odegaard. Arteta tried to replace him by moving Havertz back to midfield and putting Jesus in the number nine role, a role he is no longer capable of fulfilling.
In my opinion that was a wrong decision on Arteta’s part. We lost the the goal threat and the harassment, of defenders, that is such an important part of Havertz’ normal function.
We just do not have a direct replacement for Odegaard but Arteta has to find a way to fill the gap. Perhaps Trossard, but why not a left field option? Give Nwaneri a try.
I have my own thoughts on the game .No doubting that was a magnificent double save by Raya who is getting better and better and I don’t think there is a better defensive pairing than Gabriel and Saliba anywhere and Atalanta are a good side but our attack is letting us down.
Twice Martinelli lost his balance with great scoring chances,skying both efforts and hedoesn’t seem to have recaptured his form since his injury .
Trossard should have had a more attacking role and Jesus continues to disappoints with the odd flash of skill becoming a rarity.
Havertz had to play really deep and the boys looked tired in the final twenty minutes
Odegaard is a big loss for possibly two months but he wasn’t at his best since the start of the season.
Streling did nothing but hope he will benefit us in future games .
Three hard games in a week with City the last,all Away and it will be a hard task to win there,but who knows ..
Afternoon guys, what weather we’ve had. Sunshine one minute, then thunder, lightning and a terrific downpour..
I too share the concerns about our attacking abilities. Jesus was woeful last night, Sterling doesn’t seem to know how he fits in which is understandable considering how late he switched clubs. Part of me is desperate for Arteta to play Nwaneri, after all, if Barca can throw in the kids, why don’t we? It’s not like he looks out of his depth in the first team.
New post up.