Morning all.
Jack Wilshere has been talking about his World Cup place.
I was panicking a bit about the squad, I wanted to be in it.
I thought I was ready but he said: ‘No, you’re not. You need to train alone if you are to have a good World Cup. You need a good fitness base and to be right in every aspect’.”
In other words, despite Jack believing he was fit to play for his club, Arsene Wenger knew just how important getting to Rio was for our midfielder and didn’t risk him just in case he suffered a set-back which would have ended his summer dream.
A short appearance, but very solid appearance in the FA Cup Final was clearly enough to prove his fitness and with it, a place in Roy Hodgsons England squad. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain is in there with him too, despite not playing before the season ended.
But was it right of Arsene Wenger to put country before club?
As it turned out it didn’t matter as walked away from Wembley with the trophy in our hands but as said, he, Tomas and Sanogo all made a big difference to the way we played and some could be tempted to suggest that had they started, we may just have made the game easier for ourselves.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing eh and it must have been a hard decision to make leaving Jack out because with him playing we won 67% of our games, compared to just 57% without him.
Just like not signing a striker last summer was a crazy decision, just like not overplaying certain key players and had one been done and the other not, we could have won the double this season. It really was that close, a fit Aaron Ramsey and a striker with pace and scoring ability or even a winger with pace who can score would have given us something much different up front.
Nigel Winterburn has been talking about this summer transfer window:
A lot of people will be frustrated if we go into the last week of the transfer window and Arsene hasn’t made any major signings.
A lot of people are talking about three players that would really strengthen them. Obviously they need another centre forward, if not two.
People are talking about the right-back situation and maybe bringing in a strong holding midfielder. There are four or five positions [that need work].
Our old left-back isn’t the kind of man who’s all bitter and twisted when it comes to his old club. He speaks as a fan and he’s right, we need five signings to make us real challengers on all fronts.
Speaking of the World Cup that will happen on June 12, 2014 – who is your money on to win it?
Morning rico and all. Been away on holidays, all over now before World Cup!
Can you do me a favour and save me tons of reading? Can you provide a quick summary list of all our summer buys so far?
Morning again Rico,
It is good AW ensured JW was available to featured for us in the WC… if AW had done the same for France, the ‘ginger sniper’ at Talkshite and his likes will be out in arms protesting…
Morning again to you Ts and all…
I always wonder whether clubs should look after players when a WC is approaching and I guess we were in a position where Jack could work on his own fitness at no cost to the team.
Not sure I agree with it though….
Morning Andrew, hope you had a lovely holiday?
Yes, that’s easy. None! 😉
Morning all.
I reckon we all know, just as much as NW, what is required.
Let’s assume Arsene not only agrees, but does something about it.
I believe Wenger did right by Arsenal in not playing Jack.
If he went I. Underdone, he’d have failed to himself or the Arsenal justice, and probably injured himself again, to an extent we will not know, thank goodness.
No, better leave a player off the pitch a week too long than bring him back a week too soon.
Newsnow has crashed on my laptop, must be down to so many Gooners pressing F5.. 😉
Morning Scott..
The cynic in me thinks Jack was fit and ready to play but AW thought that him returning would mean he’d have to make a decision on who to play… 😉
Hi Ah… hope you had a good one..?
The players we have signed are too numerous to list as you may suspect… 😉
Rico, when either the WC or the Euros is approaching it has an effect of a double edge sword imo…
As an example Poldi upped his game for us in order to make it to the WC…
Santi was on the verge of missing out but in the last 2 months he upped his game too in all areas… he was even defending and tracking back…
I think Per slacked off in the last 2 months.. we could factor fatigue into it but when Loew makes comments such as ‘Hummels is returning from injury at the right time, which will make him fresh for Brazil’… I guess it could make a player like Per think hold on a second I might get injured and miss out even though he had been superb for large part of the season…
Maybe Ts, or maybe players just upped their game because they knew they had to for us to get into the top 4.
We’ll never know for sure..
I sincerely wish Spain flop… how can Del Bosque choose Torres over Llorente?
All hypothetical as you said Rico…
It worked out well with Jw so hopefully he helps us out to a good world cup..
Scott, you still haven’t given me your views on Jedinak your national captain…
Morning all,
got a good feeling about Jack at the world cup and next season. it’s his turn to shine, in his cameos for england and Arsenal he looked sharp and fresh
Agree there Ts, hope Jack has a great WC and shuts up a few of his critics…
Hi Nickie.. Fingers crossed on both…
The less JW and Ox play in Brazil the better it is for us in August as we have to play in the CL qualifier plus the community shield so…
It looks like OG12 will be playing in most of Frances’ games…
Poldi will be a bit part player but Germany will be expected to get far in the tournament…
SC19 too is in similar situation…
We will have CJ25, Ramsey, Abu Dhabi,Gibbs, Flamster, MA08 who should be frsh and ready to go so fingers crossed…
Top players want to play always – just look at Costa and the Champions league final. He believed he could play, but anyone who has had a hamstring injury (I’ve done it too many times) knows this is a 3 week layoff. Now, with Jack, Wenger shows he cares about the player, he knows he’s not at peak fitness yet, and knows that the WC experience will be a big one for Jack. He’ll take that experience back to Arsenal – especially if he/england do well – and he’ll be a happier, more settled player for us. I didnt mind him on the bench for the final because we had more than enough midfield firepower on the field and he wasnt match fit. He still got his cameo, we won the cup, and now its the world cup. Bingo, good management from Wenger, and one hell of a final!
ditto- Roger
I’d personally like jack and ox to get a decent world cup under their belt. Boost their confidence. Couple of weeks rest before season they’ll be fresh
Nickie it will be good for their confidence to have a good Brazil trip but that doesn’t mean getting flogged to death , half hour at a time should be o.k. The conditions out there will mean squad management will be all important , thank God Wenger’s not in charge.
Lol Potter… ‘thank God Wenger’s not in charge’.
Our manager and AW are cut from the same old cloth…
Ts, I have a feeling both Jack and Alex will have a big part to play, however, I don’t anticipate England getting past the group stages…
Loew’s latest comments on Ozil is worrying to say the least…
Hodgeson definitely has a soft spot for the pair
Come on Rico… we will get to quarter finals at least… 😉
Sorry Ginge, I missed that request mate……
Medinak is fantastic.
He is big, strong, courageous and skilful…..remember his volley that shook our crossbar early in the season?
He is also a very well respected man, and a sensational choice as skipper.
Honestly, I would be rapt to see him at Arsenal, because he is an Aussie, naturally, but also because he is good!
roger, kind of slightly disagree as it wasn’t until Jack, Tomas and Yaya came on that we looked like we would win..
I know it all worked out well in the end but…. just my view of course.. 😉
Guys, I am actually tipping England to perform better than the experts predict.
It seems they have finally rid themselves of some of the old guard, and have some fresh legs that bring pace to the squad.
I don’t mind them at all.
Ghana and England can’t both be out in the group stages… 🙂
I may end up supporting Belgium or Chile..
My plan B teams Germany and Holland currently look more suspect than AW against Chelsea…
Has anyone seen the Holland squad… ? the worst in decades imho…
I’d like to see this team Start Wednesday
———Hart———
John–Jag-Cah–Bain
——-Gerrard——–
—-Bark—–Wils—–
Ox——————Lalla
———Stur————-
Nickie, imho Sterling is much much better than Ox currently… Sterling will start.
Ts
I can deal with Sterling taking Ox’s position. Ox supersub
Bet you 50p Ts… 😉
Ginge, I’ll have a friendly wager on Ox being the better player in a few years time /)
😛 Rico.. 50p? Are you taking bets?
Of course Scott; Ox has the world at his feet.. in my view what is holding him back is his want to play centrally which I doubt he is ready for… not in the next 2 seasons at least…
I thought only two went through Ts?
Fair call.
I still see him as a striker…one day 🙂
Yes top 2 out of 4 in group…
Ignore my last Ts… Uruguay and Italy to go through imo…
Ts, rico, good thanks, all the better for that cup final win before I went. Daft how much one game can make to a summer!!
At this stage I see Serge a better all round player than Ox but Ox is obviously more exciting to watch…
Obviously Serge is more continental so he is a bit more advanced tactically than most players…
Its like Llalana… I like him a lot but most assume he is only 22y.o but in actual fact he is 26 y.o
You ‘chickening out’ of a 50p bet? 😛
Personally, Barkley is the best English player… his football brains is superior even in his teens as compared to players like Llalana and even Sterling.. I know different players and all but…
Scott, re Ox as a proper no.9 or a sort of advanced no.10?
Nickie, your midfield 3 who will be the no. 10? And what role is Barkley playing assuming its a traditional 4-2-3-1 set-up?
Barkley reminds me of Rooney breaking through and being a potential world class player. But despite the hype, he has never really made it to the very top level. Maybe this WC is his chance, but I suspect he wont take it by the scruff of the neck. Barkley has potential to go further, be interesting to see. Bad news for JWs place though!
Andrew, a few top signings wouldn’t go a miss either….
Totally agree Ah…
Barkley can play across the whole midfield too… Barkley is a big game player as well and because he is right footed he is a bit more fluid.
I have always said to friends that Rooney should become a CAM instead of a striker to make him a top top player…
Ricky Lambert is now a Liverpool player…
No Ts, the bet is on…. 😉
Pleased for Ricky.
😀 Rico…
It looks like the saints are being lynched from all angles… they may struggle next season…
Morgan for me please AW…
TS
Barkley furthest forward out of the 3, Gerrard deep and Wilshere the one who can make runs from deep linking defence to attack
I may upset some people but I don’t think Rooney should be a starter
I recall when we played Everton last season that someone on here got laughed at when they suggested Barkley was really good against us..
In fact one person suggested that it was Arteta being poor that made him look good…
Hmmmm 😆
I like that Nickie, good mix but all our opinions…
I see Hodgson playing JW as a no.10 though…
Watching footie this weekend every team I saw was playing AW and Peps 4-1-4-1 now..
Ginge, not as lone striker….never.
For me, playing off the shoulder of a Giroud could be dynamic.
He is smart enough to time his runs, and that’s what we miss when Giroud gets his head to the ball.
Ox is fast, direct and can shoot.
He can also beat his man.
I can’t see any downside, to be honest.
Now…my turn…..what do YOU think of our big Aussie.
Rico, I remember that; I think it was Dna who said so… 😉
I if you recall I was calling for Barkley instead of Fellaini all last summer…
Barkley is now flavour of the month as Jack was before the combined thuggery of the Premierleague decided to kick him out of it. Barkley will get similar treatment but is bigger and more able to deal with it. Like Xavi and Iniesta Jack needs to learn when and where to put himself in danger and with a long uninterrupted run of games will start to kick on again.
I have to put my hands up. I wanted us to sign Rooney last summer, a friend of mine said he was on the decline but I didn’t agree.
I was wrong. I think he’s finished…..
Sturrige and Wellbeck surely offer England much more…..
Never heard of him Scott… 😉
I’m saying no more Ts. 😉
Agree Potter… Barkley is built like a brick outhouse…
If we wasn’t so spoiled in midfield I’d want Barkley at arsenal. I was the same Rico, was excited at the prospect of Rooney but he has looked pants all season and doesn’t deserve the England start.
Which big Aussie?
Scott, I am with you on Ox as a no.10-ish but until he improves how he shields the ball with his back to goal it is not going to happen…
Most teams do not play with the high back line anymore…
Like JW and loads of our English based players they struggle in that area…
Ox likes it when he has acres in front of him to turn on the turbo-chargers… ;0
It will be like Theo struggling with teams playing very deep as his pace can’t be utilised…
Yes you have, Rico 🙂
I don’t think Rooney is finished, unless he stays at Yanited.
They were so ridiculously naive to pay him 300k a week.
He is set.
He is in his comfort zone.
That’s a bad place to be for a footballer.
Ginge, if Theo learned how to time his run off Giroud, he’d smash it!
On the comfort zone thing, I will throw this one up.
If Messi ever leaves Barca, he will go up a notch as a player!!!
Ginge, THE big Aussie 🙂
I have to agree Potter…
The issue is always with us on this Island who view players like Townsend as exciting…
I always ask how often you see Ronaldo, Gotze, Robben etc just run with the ball for no reason?
Even Salah has stopped running with the ball since he joined Jose…
JW, I have always said should keep it simple like a proper no.6… he has the God-given talent.
That is why I like Barkley; at his age he knows when to dictate play or just keep things ticking along…
The issue with JW and most of our English players is that they assume they have to do something exciting to be appreciated…
I like Wooney; I agree with you Scott but just maybe he hit his peak too early in his career and so the only way is down from here…
Scott, if TW stays fit for a year, and alongside Mesut, I think he will smash it anyway.
If you referring to Jedinak then he should be playing Aussie Rules not in the EPL. 😛
Saying that he is with the right Rugby coach at Palace…
Joking aside… he has it all for his height. At 28 he looks liek he is hitting his peak and he is the type of signing AW should be making imho…
Morning all, maybe the penny has finally dropped with Arsene, only play players when they’re fully fit. As for the Ox, needs to stay fit and used on a regular basis in the first team, a talent but in what position.As for England, can see them just getting out of the group, though not really interested. More worried about Ozil performances, missed a sitter last night.Big up for the Ladies yesterday, great way for Kerr to leave, Rico any ideas on the next manager? The demon Fake Java bug appeared again last night, as i was catching up on the Cesc lovefest. dam that bug.
Ginge, what did I say about Aaron…..once he simplifies his game, he will show his true worth.
Yes, Jack can learn that same lesson.
He has an incredible gift, so should stop trying so hard to do it all.
true Bt, that Ozil miss was very worrying…
Andrew, I agree.
Theo has shown a massive improvement in his football brain over the last 18 months, when playing.
Ginge, Jedinak was a late bloomer, so still has plenty to offer.
He’d be a ripper signing for Arsenal.
True Scott re Ramsey but Ramsey had a bit more tactical brain and engine though imo…
Jedinak..
http://www.justvideos.net/wojciech-szczesny%E2%80%99s-amazing-save-from-mile-jedinak-in-arsenal%E2%80%99s-win-at-palace-video_d259cf04f.html
Nickie, I’d rather we went and offered £25 million for Barkley, than pay Barca for Cesc.
Although I think Barkley would cost a lot more than that purely because he’s English and on the rise….
Oh I agree with Rico again what is happening? 😛
Last summer when B04 rejected our bid for Lars I said I would pay £19m for Barkley instead but his rating is so high this time round Kenwright would expect £30M.. but if he is offered 60k salary it won’t be a bad investment imho…
Scott, wiki say Miles is 29 y.o…
Will Pulis accept £8m for him?
tbh, I don’t really want Cesc to make a return. Like you say i’d rather Barkley for 25mil. I’d hate to see Cesc go to our rivals though, I lose in every possible way unless he goes elsewhere in Europe
Scott, for sure I have, well I remember now I have seen the link… 😉
Ts, if Ozil has a bad world cup and not feature a lot for Germany, his fragile confidence could take a big hit.
Jedinak ? We need a panto villain , Flamini isn’t cutting it.
I doubt Pulis will want to lose him, Ginge.
Still, we could get him for a good price, and as I said, I reckon he’d have plenty of years left in his tank.
Of course you were right, Szczesny saved it….no crossbar intervention in that one 🙂
Ts, I think sometimes you need to be right, that’s when you agree with me… 😉
I reckon Chelsea might try for Barkley….
I don’t want Cesc either but I don’t have a lot of ambition… 🙂
Cesc was another big game bottler in his last 2 seasons with us… when he started off his performance against PV04’s inter was world class but when he hit the big time I thought he started to bottle it in the big games… just my humble opinion of course.
Cesc also never had the engine; I guess Aw played him into the ground but I could stand him going missing in the winter..
I will take that Rico… when ever I agree with you it makes my day.. 🙂
Bt- Loew has put his whole managerial career on Ozil…
As I mentioned earlier I didn’t like how he tried to blame Ozil for that performance…
Loew is an idiot for not picking Keisling and Kruse… tbh
🙂 Potter..
Always glad to please Ts… lol
Ginge, do you reckon Cesc was NOT a player that a team could be built around, or have his side lean on him?
Scott, if Pulis sells to AW? lol
It will be like Mark Hughes refusing to sell your other country man to us after Al Fayed had agreed to sell to us…
Scott, imo Cesc thrived on being the center of things… that is why he probably ‘failed’ at Barca… (I am not saying he failed btw….)
It was interesting how his comment digging at AW about lack of specified tactics back fired on him at Camp Nou… he could not handle linking play between Busquet, and Xavi and Messi… too many cooks comes to mind…
😀 Potter
Hey Rico 10:37, but I totally agree with you actually – that when they came on we had more freshness and zip. I just dont think Jack shouldve started or played more than 45 mins or so. Hull were dead on their feet in extra time so fresh legs (and quality) got us over the line with a great win in the end 🙂
Fair enough Ginge.
He loved it……..but it may not have loved him….that’s what I was trying to get at 🙂
I thought he was once Scott, but once he got a bee in his bonnet about returning to Spain, it was all over….
roger, then maybe I need to give AW more praise for getting it right on the day… 😉
If we really have agreed terms with Remy, what’s the hold up?
Rico, I must say that at the time…actually, until recently…I was of the opinion Cesc was simply homesick and did little wrong.
I have changed tack a bit.
He is quality, but the info I got was no way he will be back.
Time will tell, as always 🙂
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2646066/Cesc-Fabregas-agreed-terms-Premier-League-club-Barcelona-holding-32-5m-deal.html
Anytime a personal deal is agreed before both clubs have agreed a deal it is dubious imo…
I didn’t begrudge him going back home either Scott, but I sure as heck didn’t like the way he went about it…
I’m sure I read somewhere that IG said he sulked and refused to play for us towards the end….
Or just b******t Ts… 😉
lol.. re Cesc… shame but I put my neck on the line..
He will sign for Pelle’ and join Sagna and Nasri.. more money too
Rico. i think i read somewhere it can’t be confirmed till 10 of June or perhaps Arsenes trying to get him for a fiver from QPR. lol
As I always say to Micko obviously internet has ears so I have to be careful but he was hardly ever injured with his 3 to 6 weeks hamstring injuries so…
And that dubious back pass well???
Good Morning to The Lady of the House and all fellow Gooners in residence.
Rico – Idon’t think Arsene was thinking about England when he delayed Wilshere’s return. I think he was trying to make sure he was fully fit before returning and trying to impress Hodgeson to make the England team. Many of the younger players don’t listen to their bodies and ar prone to re-injuring themselves. The last thing we need is an injured player sitting around moping and watching his national team at the WC.
I think it was Scott that said “better a week late than a week early”. Did I just quote Scott, what’s next?
Why though Bt, Liverpool have confirmed Lambert and like Remy, he’s a PL player…
Sky Sports sources believe Man City aren’t interested in Fabregas
Afternoon Cg… 😉
You are probably right, it was Jacks comments that made me wonder….
CG, it is becoming a trend……ask Rico 🙂
Ginge, Citeh is what I heard for Cesc……..
I heard that too Nickie…
By the way Nickie, good to see you keep returning. So many pop on here, leave a rude comment and then go…….
I thought clubs would be all over him due to quality and his HG status.
Even I didn’t think it would happen twice Scott… 😉
Rico, I resent that.
I made thousands of rude comments and stayed.
Credit where it’s due, please 🙂
Rico, can’t really answer that one,thought that strange myself, the other side is, have Arsenal agreed a fee with QPR yet?
Nickie, it’s limited to clubs that can afford him, and I’d suggest he wants Arsenal to have every chance to buy him before he sets his sights elsewhere, but we may not be interested.
Who knows?
Bloody transfer windows!
Morning all, Good post rico..
“Rico, I remember that; I think it was Dna who said so”… 😉
Ts, which Everton game was this home or away?
Don’t get carried away with the hype on Barkley just yet, see what happen to JW. As soon as a english player have a couple good/average games in EPL he is deemed world class. Which other team in the world would carry Raheem Sterling to a world cup?
I think there is a cabbie somewhere crying in his tea reading that we don’t want that bloke from Barca to return to us…. As for the lunatic that is Balotelli………….. Why would any sane manager buy that nutcase….!
I see this Fabregas situation as a distraction for Wenger. He will dither all summer, should I? or shouldn’t I? over Fabregas which will take away from the signings we actually need. In the end I can see Wenger being so caught up with Fab that some of the more important areas aren’t addressed and because we have no time left he just signs Fab.
Is that a question regarding Wenger’s sanity ?
😆 You are the exception then Scott…
Bt, I doubt it, Aw is probably trying to get him for less than the reported £8 million…
Rico, apparently window officially opens July1, deals can be annonuced beforehand, I think all parties involved in these deals, have to be in agreement. Maybe it was July 10 i saw, don’t even trust myself anymore! lol
🙂 Wath, poor Kev…
You mentioned ‘sane’ – well we are talking about AW here….
Would I ever do that Potter 😉
Hey wait a second here your all jumping the gun… I not said anything about our esteemed one being a headcase…!
Regarding Cesc: even the Spanish papers can’t keep the story straight. One had him staying at Barcelona and 24 to 48 hrs. stated he was definitely going for the equivalent of 30 million pounds. We’re just going to have to wait until some team or the player makes an announcement.
Rico – Arsenal never announce a player is signed until all the paperwork is done (player, clubs, FA) and his registration received by the FA.
I tested the waters a few times though, hey Rico lol
PL official site Bt:
When does the transfer window open and close?
There are two transfer windows in each Barclays Premier League season.
The first commences at midnight on the last day of the season and ends on 31 August if a working day – or, if not, on the first working day thereafter, at a time determined by the Board.
The second transfer window commences at midnight on the 31 December and ends on the 31 January if a working day, and again, if not, on the first working day thereafter, at a time determined by the Board.
Temporary transfers can be made permanent outside of the transfer windows. For further information please see the rules in the Premier League Handbook.
Now I’m really confused 😉
Financially the Cesc deal shouldn’t be too taxing. They still do owe us apparently for both him and Song so a deal could be struck and if we insert a delayed payment like they did with us it’s just a case of Wenger saying yes and sending his minnions to do the deal. Barca do not have Laporta twisting his parents this time and playing on his “” DNA “”. Perhaps we should play on his daughter living in London . As for him going to Chelsea , it’s just like Maureen to stick his oar in but just tell Santi to keep whispering Mata in his ear throughout the World Cup and that should make him see sense.
31st August Cg.. 😉
One or twice Scott but so glad it all came good in the end…. lol
You are on form today Potter…
Yes Rico, once Ramsey came good you all loved me a hahahahaha.
Potter, I read Barca still owe us 15 million or so…..I can’t say that news is 100% accurate though.
I’m saying nothing Scott…. lol
Scott – You say people quoting you is becoming a trend. Is that another indicator that this is truly the ‘Silly Season’?
As for Cesc, one source has him waiting to talk to the new coach about his place on the FC Farcelona team before making up his mind. I doubt he will want to leave unless he has no part/place.
🙂
The last guesstimate from Swiss ramble was 15million euro end of August 2013 but now it could be as low as 6/7 million euro…. Still a nice chunk for a down payment on Alexis Sanchez….!
Rico, i was taking the July date from the Daily Mirror article on the transfer windows opening and closing.lol. Still if there is no agreement with QPR, then no announcement. I only seen personnel terms agreed, so confusing!! lol
CG, it’s the world gone mad!!
Ask Lee, I’m never right, so you lot quoting me must be even worse lol.
Wath, so that was only a guess and old info…apologies……I never realised that bit.
Scott – I was already questioning my own sanity.
It is confusing Bt, but the Liverpool signing of Lambert shows that PL to PL transfers can be done now.
My guess is the Remy talk is just that, all talk and no substance….
And rightly so!!
I am not sure I want to discuss all things Arsenal with people who agree with my opinions.
You lot may have no standards, but i most certainly do.
I’m off guys…..enjoy the day/rumours/denials…….
🙂 Scott, very cheeky…. lol
Night to you…..
Afternoon all.
Would I want Fabregas to return?
Why not. He’s an 83-cap international with plenty of goals and in him.
When he played for us the team had holes in it – Almunia, Eboue, Denilson etc and he was for most of the time the stand-out performer.
We now have a proper team …
We have loads of midfielders already? Really?
Diaby is bollocksed, Arteta is almost washed-up, Flamini is Flamini – Rosicky -as much as I like him – he is 34 this year…..
Fabregas would be a good purchase and you know with him in the team that we wouldn’t be getting caned 0-6, 1-5 etc..
Is he the solution to a problem?
No, but he would help and he is world class.
Javier Martinez is also part-solution to the problem and he is also a £30M midfielder.
Scott – I’m sure us agreeing with you is only a temporary aberration, normal service will be resumed.
Hi Syg…
It sure will be Cg, starting from now. Seeing as Scott is asleep its a good time. lol
Hi Gdna, not sure why but your comment went into moderation….
Rico, yip they can be done if you stump up the cash wanted by the players club.
Exactly Bt. I’m sure we’ll get some news soon… Or am I just hoping far too much…
Wenger seems confident of deals so we just have to play the waiting game 🙂
Rumour has it that Chelsea are leading the Fabregas race….
I’ll lose all respect for Cesc if he decides to play for that clown
I repeat what I said earlier :- As for him going to Chelsea , it’s just like Maureen to stick his oar in but just tell Santi to keep whispering Mata in his ear throughout the World Cup and that should make him see sense.
I don’t think for too long though. Wenger said he wants a signing or two before the WC didn’t he?
You may just turn out to be right potter….
I guess Cesc would be seen as the ideal Lampard replacement.
I see Grizemann scored a cracker for France, Arsene likened it to a Pires finish. Smoke and mirrors ref Arsenes’ transfer quotes, hard to do before world cup, hard to do after, players on hols, Market congested with big money buyers, expects signings early!! Aah!! lol
Cesc to the Chavs means he gets to stay in London with the Mrs and kid and also gets to earn a huge salary… Am sure he’s smiling big time…!
I reckon Rik Waller would be a better replacement….
Wath, and he gets to play for Maureen! lol
Bt, Don’t forget AW also likes to make others think he wants players that they then buy at inflated prices when he wasn’t interested at all… He wants to try buy players with as little fuss as possible hence his comments from all over the place.
We still like to do our business as quietly as possible but in this world of social media it’s becoming harder and harder but still not impossible.
As an aside Bt, It would be interesting to see how someone like Moreenyo would play Cesc…!
Rik’s a bit too slim isn’t he?
Trouble is, AW makes so many conflicting statements I think even he forgets who he wants to sign. Maybe that’s why it always takes him so long… lol
He’s at the age Rico where he now has a list to remind himself… It works for Grandad Kev he been doing it for years…!
Hi WAth… Balo’ is a mad genius ask Einstein? 🙂
Syg, stop dreaming Sir and lay off Eboue and the Spanish waiter? How was your trip to Cyprus? Did you see the photo of Song and Poldi throwing up their ‘gang’ signs? lol
Song was really making Ozil and Khedira look very average but that is another story..
For those who missed the Belgium game.. lets put £25m down for Lukaku..
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1xycj2_sweden-vs-belgium-0-2-hd-all-goals-highlights-friendly-match-01-06-14_sport
Sky Bet have cut the odds on Cesc Fabregas and Ross Barkley moving to Stamford Bridge, and they also report money for Micah Richards to Liverpool
Ts, no doubting the talent of Balo but the bloke is a complete headcase and who ever takes him is just taking on so much trouble he just not worth the risk even for free…!
I’d rather Hazard Ts 😉
H’s probably lost the list Wath…
I have one of those too… lol
lol.. and those who think Tv is average and 3rd choice material… him next to Kompany was colossal imho…
Again Fellaini was on the bench for Witsel, Dembele starting…
😀 Dna re Barkley it depends on what you expect from a player…
If Xavi was from this league he won’t be talked about same as Carrick because he hardly scores…
Wath Lol.. £30m plus and a 150k a week salary; you want to kill AW?
Seriously, though I agree with you.. I just believe he is bound to grow up eventually…
Gattuso was sent to the SPL before he matured so…
Wath, as i said smoke and mirrors, it would be a lot easier to keep deals quiet at times, if he didn’t make insulting offers. Couldn’t see Cesc being allowed to roam the pitch under Maureen.
Ts, ” Dna re Barkley it depends on what you expect from a player…
If Xavi was from this league he won’t be talked about same as Carrick because he hardly score.” lol
Using Barkley and Carrick in the same sentence with Xavi, u r a brave man. lol
England leave their best left back at home for a WC and fans calling for Raheem Sterling to start so u might have a point.
I actually think Sterling is a good player….
Ts, Only 30bar on Hazard… more like 45/50….! Yep you just know AW would have a kitten parting with such money lol be worth seeing his face though 😀
I also like Sterling, quick and direct and causes defenders problems….! Can’t see what your problem is with him Gdna….
Typical, the Chavs get Cesc and Barkley, meanwhile Arsenal’s busy summer grinds on snoozing…
Afternoon All.
Afternoon Rico
Afternoon Wath
Lol WAth… the look on AW’s face will definitely be a box office moment.
Hiya Kev… I didn’t get much for birthday and Christmas as a child so my expectations are as low as it can get. 😀
Afternoon Kev, it’s only rumours 🙂
Afternoon Grandad, hope your well mate…
No crying in your tea it waters it down..!
Good piece
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/club/arsenal/359/blog/post/1857350
Hiya Ginge…
Lukaku ….. £25M …. Bony …. Benteke … £25M ???
You’re getting as bad as Clarence Seedorf ….
Afternoon Rico.
Afternoon Adam…
Afternoon Adam and Rico and SYG and Kev and WATH and…..transfer discussions are all very well but they are really only like playing fantasy football or champ manager!
I’m not holding my breath waiting for our first signing (if there is one), as I fear I will die first and then I’ll never know! Not a good plan for the future!
Afternoon Rico and the house.
Wow whats up all the big Guns on together.
Sorry one missing
Wake up Scott.
Afternoon Wavy, we’ll get a few good signings, I can feel it in my bones…. lol
Afternoon Rick, there’s still a few missing sadly….
I dont know Rico it’s been great reading the last few days.
Like you I think something big is on the cards.
I saw Lee earlier Rico, he posted a pic of himself on twitter gazing out of a window….! Quite bizarre then realised he was waiting for the pub to open.
Last time I had ‘a feeling in my bones’ it turned into flu!
You need to wrap up warm then Wavy………… 😉
I find a bottle of whiskey helps……..
Tgsh
sorry,but van buyten was the guy who was with kompany yesterday and van buyten was superb
he led the counter attack for the eden hazard’s goal
Vermaleen played at left back.have to say but witsel and dembele looked good
Re:lukaku
good goal but doesnt know how to connect with his mildfielder,would defo improve with age even at everton he struggled with this.
🙂 Wath, I must have a look at that….
Rick, it’s been fun too which makes a TW easier…
lol… Syg.. I haven’t even come to why Benteke who is injured is worth £30m plus yet… 🙂
Hi Rick
Hi Ginge hows things
Did you see Ozykup played for Turkey last night and is reported to have had a good game. Pitty he saw fitt to leave.
Not too bad Sir.. and you?I saw highlights because of klinsmann…
ozykup heeded RVp’s advice apparently…
Ginge, my expectations are what they usually are…
We are in the archetypal early transfer window, with the oh so boring but predictable pre-season ticket renewal bullshit behind us and now several weeks of frustration ahead of us as Chelsea, Man City, ManUre and maybe this time even Liverpool, hoovering up all the targets we’d hoped to see at Arsenal…
Imagine this Ginge: Mourinho bringing in Costa, Fabregas, Barkley, two fingers to FFP eh?
In one summer, any EPL hopes Arsenal had, blown away…
Still we might get Remy…
Or Bent or Kalou?
Grandad…. Behave or I’ll have to put you back on your tabs……..
Only team who has actually bought anyone is Liverpool, a 32yr old striker…! Don’t tell me that’s upset you…?
As for all the other players who are linked with Tom Dick n Harry until it happens nothing has happened…!
Evening guys and gals…
I want some tablets Wath 🙂
The Mirror reckon Fabregas is heading to Utd…
Rico, I really don’t care where he goes as long as we buy what we need… let him take his attitude elsewhere… Funny how today I have read stories saying Barca upset with his attitude….! Funny…!
Tabs on their way Rico……! 😉
I’m with you there Wath. I asked the question the other day, ‘why are Barca prepared to let him go’?
Got them, thanks Wath… 😉
good question Rico… already made Xavi replacement apparently but they are prepared to allo someone with that dna to leave..
Barca could make more money selling Alexis if it was about money…
then again I am bitter so… 🙂
Kev, I want Jose to buy want he wants and still fail so that Roman can sack him… lol
Especially as so much fuss was made to tap him up and get him signed Ts.
I just don’t get why they would sell him, unless he is causing a bit of a problem in the camp.
We’ll all be taking tablets, by the August 31st deadline… 🙁
Lee, the only thing that keeps my spirits up is the thought of seeing Kalou and Bent leading the Arsenal attack….
Mind you, add a Bender to that mix and now your talking…
Him cause problems in the camp… never Rico… unheard of….! lol
One of the big reasons they bought him back as well was due to the usual presidential battle….!
I don’t think we will Kev, not this time….
Who has decided to ship him out Wath, do you know?
The new manager isn’t even in post yet is he?
Luis Enrique was a fine pragmatic player who I suspect would value Cesc if something was not brewing in the background…
Do we really want Darren Dein sniffing around again?
In short Ts, no.
Will be sad to see him playing for another PL club though… lol
Ts, you must have a post or two up your sleeve?? News is threadbare….
Lol… Rico…
I am just coming back to football so lets look at next week 😉
The only news around is that there is no news!
We are presently in the false war period! It’s a bit like the false no 9. It’s an intangible bale thing everyone can see it and feel it but nobody can quite put their finger on it!
A transfer is in the offing but we don’t know who, we don’t know when and we don’t know how much!……………but it is going to happen………..is t it?
Morning all.
And what am I supposed to write between now and then Ts?? 😉
Wavy, you must have an idea of a post, come on, get your pen out!! 🙂
Morning Scott, you too! 😉
Rico no idea obviously and lets be honest one minute he off the next he staying but it does seem he’s ruffled feathers at Barca….! They obviously want as much as possible for him which is also why it’s all smoke n mirrors….
Morning Scott….
Mate those number I commented on are from Swiss Ramble… what you said about the 15mil was right according to Aug 2013 but no one knows whats been paid in the interim…! SR estimated that the figure would now be approx 6/7million outstanding. BUT no one will know exactly until next financial results are released.
Same old bollox coming out of Spain Wath….
As is the norm Rico… Marca and ElMundo are complete and utter bullshit artists… they make our red tops look like proper investigative papers with full on 100% proper inside info…!
And that Gullumbgue bloke, or whatever his name is….
Oh, and that Hunter chap!
Yes, makes John Cross seem like a real know it all… 😉
I’ll see what I can do. Don’t hold your breath and just to say I gave up pens in 2009 now I only use swords!
Swords will do for me Wavy…. lol
No worries, Wath.
Let’s hope it’s still 15 million…gives us more leverage whichever way it plays out.
Let’s get Messi!!
Nah, from what I’ve seen of them, Sanchez is the man that would upgrade us, and Alonso from Real would do as well.
They are the two players from Spain I’d love.
I mean from the Spanish league……
I’m a big Alonso fan Scott would definitely take him even with his age
He is now Jedinak though 🙂
Kidding of course.
Alonso is no nonsense, get the job done type of player, and we can use one or two like that.
32 years old? Alonso is too old imo…
What is happening on HH… Scott into Alonso? 😛
To me he is what a DM should be; he is not the destroyer but he does the job perfectly…
We were going to get Alonso last season when Asier was signed but against the Cesc rumours slowed things down…
Scott, the FA are going to ban Jedinak.. he is an Aussie Rule player… 🙂
It’s that time of day for me…
You all have a good night, good day for you Scott…
Night all…..
Rico, Alonso still better than both Benders though… imho
night Rico
Alonso is also an excellent distributor as well…
Night Rico.
Ginge, I’ve always rated the guy very highly.
Jedinak is big enough and strong enough to play Aussie rules lol.
True Snap..
Lol he is a big man indeed Scout but according to wiki just 6’2
Scott even; sorry
Ginge, he is tall enough, but with a solid frame as well.
As with Alonso, no nonsense, get the job done.
He’d never take a backward step and I will say this….with his heart, we would NEVER be beaten 6-0.
night Scott, Snap and all… stay safe
Later Ginge.
Nite Ts…..
We fcuked up big time not getting Alonso when he left Livpoo…..!
Yep.
We do that a bit, hey Wath?
Yeh just a bit Scott lol….. We do it quite well too…!
Wilfred Bony for £19 million?
Or
Mario Balotelli for £20 million?
Or
Jean-Christophe Bahebeck for a Free+ 50% of any sell-on fee?
Or
Saloman Kalou for a Double Pie n Mash…?
Bent?
And
Bender
he perfect ‘match’!
Kev… stop reading the bloody gossip columns lol
Kev writes the gossip columns 🙂
Wavy, I like it…
Wath/Scott 😀
Night All
Morning all…
Morning all , just to start the day they Cesc and Mourinho have history.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvoudp4STF0
then of course http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2562729/Shut-Cesc-Fabregas-bites-Jose-Mourinho-slams-Barca-worst-years.html
I will try to find the coverage of their argument at Highbury too for later.
Must get off to work now.
Hiya Rico.
Hi Scott, it’s a quiet one….
Just seen Neymars cheeky penalty he took in training. Wicked….
He’s a tosser 🙂
He might be Scott, but it was still a cheeky strike… 😉
According to reports, Liverpool have opened talks with Aurier….
Morning all, I hate all this transfer bollox! Trouble is, looking at newsnow is so addictive but also a massive crock of shit!
Saying that, the dippers are trying to nick Aurier! 😉
Touche Rico
Morning Lee.
Jamie Sanderson is the ‘sauce’ for the Aurier story, he used to be reliable but maybe he’s been ‘Metro’d’…. 😉
I wish newsnow would crash and not come back online until 1st Sept…
Thierry Henry reckons AW is to hit the big time again and win more trophies….
Maybe AW has taken up green bowling…. 😉
Sorry Potter, for some reason your early comment went into moderation…
Despite leaving in 2011,Fabregas has played the most accurate 2RU ball in Epl and he has picked up the highest assist since he left.Can’t see why we should be debating on That type of player.World class players is not too many in a team.
Why are you picking on Potter?
Free Potter!
I guess we debate Cesc Sukky because not all fans think it’s wise to bring him back…
But it matters not really because AW will make his own mind up at some stage and if he wants to resign him, he’ll return…
🙂 Lee.
It was the links, wordpress sometimes does that….
We need to talk about transfer rumours because there’s nothing else happening lol.
Here is a Little snippet on Sean’s football school.
Coaches from all over the world have our kids hanging on their every word….
http://www.internationalfootballschool.com/2014/06/03/right-place-right-time/
The links :- I went to work not Golf.
Absolutely Scott, and there’s nothing happening in the transfer window either…
Very good Potter… lol
Sean has brown Scott…. lol
brown?? that should have read grown… lol
New post up now…