Big changes in defence, Wenger back for Madrid Striker & Fleet Streets Vultures start to circle…..

Morning Gooners,

According to John Cross of The Daily Mirror, Arsene Wenger is back on the trail of Real Madrid striker Alvaro Morata.

Arsenal boss Wenger tried to sign the youngster on loan from the Spanish giants’ B team earlier this year, and has been alerted again because he is not getting action at the star-studded Bernabeu. Apparently Morata, who has been on Wenger’s radar for two years, is being lined up for a January move to the Emirates.

Meanwhile, The Daily Mail have come up with a story about how we are set to play five across the back line in future. Wenger is desperate for us to stop conceding goals and this is the way he wants to go. Crikey, the poor fella’s are still trying to get the hang of what Bould is teaching them, this really will confuse issues….

Onto today’s post:

Fe, Fi, Fo, Fum, The Press smell the blood of a Frenchie-man.

Oh yes, Fleet Street’s vulture’s are circling with a collective hard-on, over the prospect that they’re closing in on that story they’ve been aching to report on for years and that is the of course, the much speculated departure of Arsene Wenger from Arsenal.

The Press, and you can almost sense the mentality of the mob here, have tried to drive a wedge between the majority of fans and our manager for a while now. You can see the enjoyment and the zeal screaming out at us from between the words they write. Those treacherous scumbags, as they racquet up the spin, the lies and the anti-Wenger propaganda.

It’s almost become a feeding frenzy as every pundit, ex-footballer, failed manager, jug-eared crisp eating over-paid knob and ginger pillock on the radio, seems to have the answer but none of them actually have the answer. None of them have a clue, and neither do we.

Otherwise we’d be doing the job…!

It is of course quite possible, that we are seeing the end game for Arsene. Maybe the fire in his soul, that desire which drove him to compete and for a while, dominate a Man Utd in its pomp, has dimmed a little?

He looks so frustrated, as he stomps around his technical area.

Why have the wheels come off???

Why indeed?

We can all speculate, but none of us can say for sure.

Injuries have again taken their toll and certain players have, in all honesty, let him down. Where is the self-motivation for heaven’s sake because if a Professional Footballer on £70,000 a week cannot get himself ‘up’ for a visit to Old Trafford, then we really are in trouble and the way we played there, it seems that was very much the case.

I don’t think though, in fact I’m certain, that Arsene Wenger is ready to walk away.

Please don’t give me all that nonsense about his salary, if money motivated him then he would have left when Real Madrid came calling  and I’m pretty sure the Board won’t sack him.

So Arsene Wenger will be the Arsenal manager until at least the expiry of his current deal in around 20 month’s time.

Many won’t be happy about that, and that’s their prerogative. For me, I think, he has earned the right, to see out his contract without the lack of respect being shown in certain quarters for him.

Arsenal can still, and I’m certain will, finish in the top four and we can also win a cup.

I’d be happy with that outcome next May.

Would you?

Written by Allezkev

0 thoughts on “Big changes in defence, Wenger back for Madrid Striker & Fleet Streets Vultures start to circle…..

  1. JW says:

    Good morning all,

    It’s not only the press that are stirring the “Arsene Out” pot, or plot, there are plenty of fans doing so on numerous blogs, not least the the best of the lot Highbury House.

    AK makes the point that Wenger will not walk away mid-contract, it’s just not his style, and the board are not about to sack him, so he will be here at least for the next twenty months. Best to get behind him and make the most of it Gooners!

  2. stevepalmer1 says:

    Morning all, very to the point Post Sir AK another one that gets us thinking. Wenger gets his fair share of abuse from all angles but i am starting to think that he brings a lot of it to his own door, yes there are cretins out there that have never liked him, ginger nobodies that front a program that spend most of their time trying to reel in Gooners, but i must say that its taken Wenger long enough to see that our defending needs to change in fact he should have realised it sooner we all did five across the back ell we dont attack that much these days and i can’t see this system helping that either but if we can mend the leak we can send the plumbers home then its just a matter of getting forwards to do that little bit more, its been said a few times that Wenger thinks 2 steps ahead but i have started to doubt that.

  3. rico says:

    Morning all…

    Another good post there Kev.

    I think they have been circling for years. But I doubt they will get to break their doom and gloom story just yet. I can’t ever see Wenger getting sacked regardless of what Gazidis said about fan pressure.

    He would have been sacked a long time ago IF the board truly cared about results!

  4. JW says:

    There has been much speculation and debate over the current position of Russia’s richest citizen Alisher Usmanov vis s vis Arsenal’s future ownership. There is no doubt that our own Oligarch could easily afford to buy out Silent Stan if only he were willing to sell.

    Usmanov is about to float twenty percent of his holding in telecoms company MegaFon estimated to be worth around £2.5 billion. Arsenal are looking for new sponsorship deals. Wouldn’t it be nice if Alisher signed a five year shirt sponsorship deal worth around £200 million. It would add some substance to his professed love for Arsenal and might just encourage Kroenke to invite him onto the board.

  5. Potter says:

    Three at the back thickens the midfield and allows the forwards to be forwards and not have to worry about defending . If it’s to be Arteta and Wilshere in the middle then Cazorla would have to play right with Giroud middle and Podolski left. Reserve players would also fit this . I just wish it had been tried pre season instead of now.

  6. Scott from Oz says:

    Great post Kev…..some positivity to lighten up a sad lot that are we Gooners 🙂
    Rico,if the board cared about results,they’d have given him money to spend,and directed him to spend it!
    Evening all.

  7. tsGH says:

    Morning all,

    Oh Kev, what a splendid post. 😀
    This is the type of post that sets HH apart from all the other blogs.

    This paragraph just made me lmao in my office and I bet they are thinking this man is losing the plot.

    ‘It’s almost become a feeding frenzy as every pundit, ex-footballer, failed manager, jug-eared crisp eating over-paid knob and ginger pillock on the radio, seems to have the answer but none of them actually have the answer. None of them have a clue, and neither do we.’

    Just to keep the smile on my face enjoy this video

  8. JW says:

    On the subject of defensive changes, apparently Wenger was thinking of making the change before the Schalke game but decided there wasn’t sufficient training time to instigate the new system, since all of the defenders are on international duty this week I don’t think we will see any change for the Spuds game on Saturday.

  9. tsGH says:

    Hi Scott,

    How are you doing? I am back to my positive self and f__k all these AFC haters. 😀

    And as some say AW is egomaniac, but if that was true he would not be putting the longterm future of the club before his own reputation. And guess what, Real Madrid want AW to replace Maureenho after his contract ends.

  10. rico says:

    Potter – agree there but i guess he, like us, thought the ‘Bould way’ would work…

    You can throw money into the squad Scott, but if the tictacs are wrong and we don’t try change, then that money is wasted…

    Look at Chelsea under a few managers of late…

    Even Citeh in the CL…

  11. rico says:

    Those prices are incredible Lee…

    Would love to know how much the top players in Germany are earning, bet it’s nowhere near what the PL pays…

  12. ndukuba says:

    Gunners for life, pls help me tell Mr wenger to sign experience and solid players otherwise we are going nowhere this season.And he should offload the likes of djouroh,squillaci,fanbiaski,Santos,chamach and Ramsey before they will shoot gunners down. Gunners till i breadth no more.

  13. Lawrence says:

    Good read Allezkev but I have to disagree. I believe the remit for Arsenal Football Club is to be the best. With the money the club has, the majority share holders have, we certainly should be the best. Arsene needs the people above to set the goals the club and supporters deserve and nothing less, EPL Winners.

    My fear is 20 months time when his contract expires and we have had a season of no European football all the good players will have gone to keep the bank balance of AFC looking good.

    Then we’ll need our majority shareholders to be bold and dig deep.

  14. tsGH says:

    Potter and Rico- AW played 3 at the back at WHU in the 2nd half. And also those saying AW does not try other formation should recall he played 4-4-1-1, 2 times in our first 5 matches.He also played 4-4-1-1 in the coventry match. He played 4-4-2 at Reading in the first half . And in the 2nd half AW was flexible enough to play the Argentine 1986 formation of W-2-W formation ie 4-2-4.

    And actually after re-watching the Norwich, Chelski and Manure games I have come to the conclusion that it may not be tactics after all. All the goals we have conceded apart from the Olympiacos, and Montpellier 2nd goal could have been stopped had the players done their bread and butter jobs.

    Yes we should have signed an experience box to box player like Cabaye or a DM like Capoue but at the end of the day players like Ox, SC19, Poldi, Ramsey and even Le Coq have let AW down big time and its hard time he stops the unconditional loyalty he shows to them.

  15. Potter says:

    Lawrence we have only one majority shareholder and one who is totally ignored by the club. The one we have has very little in disposable assets all of his money is tied in franchises and property. Don’t hold your breath if your waiting for him to bale us out.

  16. Scott from Oz says:

    Tsgh,great to see you back lol.
    Rico,so why spend so much timecomplaining about lack of depth then,if it is only the tactics that are wrong 🙂
    Seriously though,plenty would need to change for us to challenge,and i hope it does.

  17. tsGH says:

    Ha ha ha JW it depends on how much fried chips he has had the night before…re Santos

    Rico Bayern Munich pay more than Arsenal pay their players. Schweinsteiger earns approximately 10M euros a year. Why do you thing they dont travel far? The issue is that they dont have people like Owen Coyle trying to charge ridiculous amounts of money for citizens of that country.

    If you think Reus went to Dortmond for 10M whilst the Ox cost us £15M pounds because he has a British passport.;)

  18. rico says:

    Lawrence – I hope Usmanov is in by then….

    I never really notice things like that Tsgh, I just see gaping holes and school boy errors… Tactics with our side so often mean little. We start with two wingers and a big strong centre forward but do we play to that system once the ball kicks off?

    Seldom is my answer…

  19. rico says:

    Potter – I saw an article yesterday about Kroenke soon to take money form the club. I didn’t read it as I was on my way out of home and can’t find it now…

    I know you are jesting Scott but we still need a squad deeper in strength than we have. But until that happens its surely about getting the best from what we have. Are we doing that??

    Clearly not watching the way we have been playing.

  20. rico says:

    Yes I realise that English players are way overpriced Tsgh, we here have been saying that for a while.

    Just wondered if there was a website like the one Lee posted about ST prices, but for wages…

  21. tsGH says:

    I know but I dont want to see Fat Sam Allaydace route one tactics.

    You see I prefer 3 commando brigade strategy to warfare to 3 paras’ because I like systematic approach not gun-ho route 1 tactics. 😉

    As Mr Kev said if a professional needs to be ‘drugged’ for them to be motivated enough to play a football game then we must as well just give up and go home…

  22. Scott from Oz says:

    Rico,i do think the players are also responsible to a certain extent though.
    If the tactivs never change,you would at least think they’d have them down pat by now.
    Sometimes we look like worldbeaters,then 5 minutes later we are schoolboys.
    These are not tactical issues.
    We are just so inconsistent .

  23. tsGH says:

    Here you are my lady…

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    year Team League Avg. annual
    pay $ Avg. weekly pay % change in avg. weekly Total
    payroll $ (rank)
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    2 2 Real Madrid La Liga $7,796,637 $149,935 6 $194,915,932 (3)
    3 10 Manchester City EPL $7,403,754 $142,380 26 $185,093,858 (4)
    4 6 Chelsea EPL $6,795,899 $130,690 13 $169,897,463 (8)
    5 4 Los Angeles Lakers NBA $6,278,088 $120,732 -4 $87,893,233 (63)
    6 3 New York
    Yankees MLB $6,186,322 $118,968 -8 $197,962,289 (2)
    7 14 AC Milan Serie A $6,104,769 $117,399 8 $152,619,219 (10)
    8 12 Bayern Munich Bundes. $5,907,652 $113,609 2 $170,231,332 (7)
    9 13 Philadelphia Phillies MLB $5,817,965 $111,884 1 $174,538,938 (5)
    10 7 Internazionale Serie A $5,700,915 $109,633 -5 $142,522,871 (12)
    11 16 Manchester
    United EPL $5,521,423 $106,181 8 $138,035,567 (14)
    12 43 San Antonio
    Spurs NBA $5,450,135 $104,810 36 $70,851,758 (83)
    13 28 Los Angeles Angels MLB $5,327,075 $102,444 19 $154,485,166 (9)
    14 42 Chicago Bulls NBA $5,324,088 $102,386 33 $69,213,149 (88)
    15 15 Boston Celtics NBA $5,321,435 $102,335 2 $79,821,530 (70)
    16 22 Arsenal EPL $5,280,108 $101,541 11 $132,002,699 (16)
    17 58 Miami Heat NBA $5,261,657 $101,186 53 $73,663,195 (80)
    18 20 Liverpool EPL $5,230,525 $100,587 6 $130,763,119 (17)
    19 8 Boston Red Sox MLB $5,093,724 $97,956 -15 $173,186,617 (6)
    20 27 Memphis
    Grizzlies NBA $5,017,751 $96,495 12 $70,248,520 (85)
    21 21 Dallas Mavericks NBA $4,933,060 $94,867 1 $73,995,904 (79)
    22 24 Atlanta Hawks NBA $4,841,280 $93,102 4 $72,619,193 (81)
    23 19 Philadelphia
    76ers NBA $4,801,957 $92,345 -3 $67,227,398 (91)
    24 52 LA Clippers NBA $4,744,022 $91,231 26 $66,416,310 (94)
    25 38 Juventus Serie A $4,695,976 $90,307 14 $117,399,399 (29)
    26 66 Texas Rangers MLB $4,635,037 $89,135 46 $120,510,974 (24)
    27 47 Detroit Tigers MLB $4,562,069 $87,732 17 $132,300,000 (15)
    28 5 Orlando Magic NBA $4,550,887 $87,517 -29 $68,263,301 (90)
    29 123 Miami Marlins MLB $4,373,259 $84,101 100 $118,078,000 (26)
    30 36 Portland Trail Blazers NBA $4,358,869 $83,824 2 $65,383,028 (96)
    31 39 Phoenix Suns NBA $4,304,271 $82,774 5 $60,259,790 (115)
    32 35 Milwaukee Bucks NBA $4,281,893 $82,344 -1 $59,946,504 (116)
    33 37 New Orleans Hornets NBA $4,197,111 $80,714 2 $62,956,671 (105)
    34 56 Schalke 04 Bundes. $4,187,722 $80,533 19 $115,844,040 (24)
    35 31 Detroit Pistons NBA $4,173,115 $80,252 -5 $58,423,616 (123)
    36 29 Kolkata Knight Riders IPL $4,166,968 $80,134 -6 $8,975,008 (219)
    37 49 New York Knicks NBA $4,165,858 $80,113 8 $62,487,871 (106)
    38 11 Utah Jazz NBA $4,154,588 $79,896 -29 $58,164,233 (124)
    39 44 Mumbai Indians IPL $4,141,436 $79,643 4 $8,920,016 (220)
    40 34 Golden State Warriors NBA $4,083,898 $78,537 -7 $57,174,576 (126)
    41 51 Aston Villa EPL $4,067,464 $78,220 6 $101,686,591 (47)
    42 9 Denver Nuggets NBA $4,064,809 $78,169 -32 $60,972,136 (110)
    43 53 New Jersey Nets NBA $3,988,701 $76,706 9 $59,830,521 (117)
    44 48 St. Louis
    Cardinals MLB $3,939,317 $75,756 1 $110,300,862 (40)
    45 55 Washington Wizards NBA $3,936,851 $75,709 11 $55,115,917 (137)
    46 33 San Francisco Giants MLB $3,920,689 $75,398 -10 $117,620,683 (28)
    47 62 AS Roma Serie A $3,897,660 $74,955 15 $97,441,501 (52)
    48 23 Chicago
    White Sox MLB $3,876,780 $74,553 -18 $96,919,500 (53)
    49 32 Charlotte
    Bobcats NBA $3,860,136 $74,233 -12 $57,902,044 (125)
    50 Pune Warriors IPL $3,839,628 $73,839 n/a $8,269,968 (224)
    51 110 Tottenham Hotspur EPL $3,809,476 $73,259 61 $95,236,903 (55)
    52 87 Minnesota Timberwolves NBA $3,789,623 $72,877 43 $56,844,339 (128)
    53 18 Houston Rockets NBA $3,783,167 $72,753 -24 $56,747,507 (129)
    54 73 Milwaukee
    Brewers MLB $3,755,921 $72,229 32 $97,653,944 (51)
    55 26 Royal
    Challengers
    Bangalore IPL $3,732,872 $71,786 -17 $8,040,032 (231)
    56 46 Toronto Raptors NBA $3,667,270 $70,524 -6 $55,009,049 (138)
    57 50 Oklahoma City Thunder NBA $3,664,013 $70,462 -5 $54,960,189 (139)
    58 Kochi Tuskers Kerala IPL $3,607,500 $69,375 n/a $7,770,000 (242)
    59 60 Delhi Daredevils IPL $3,605,056 $69,328 6 $8,250,032 (225)
    60 54 Chennai Super Kings IPL $3,555,396 $68,373 -1 $8,614,998 (221)
    61 69 Sacramento
    Kings NBA $3,496,445 $67,239 20 $48,950,236 (156)
    62 25 Minnesota Twins MLB $3,484,630 $67,012 -23 $94,085,000 (58)
    63 30 New York Mets MLB $3,457,555 $66,491 -21 $93,353,983 (59)
    64 59 Cleveland Cavaliers NBA $3,393,356 $65,257 -1 $50,900,336 (145)
    65 17 Chicago Cubs MLB $3,392,194 $65,235 -32 $88,197,033 (62)
    66 41 Indiana Pacers NBA $3,383,722 $65,072 -16 $43,988,386 (167)
    67 45 Deccan Chargers IPL $3,284,840 $63,170 -18 $7,075,040 (244)
    68 126 Rajasthan Royals IPL $3,247,660 $62,455 51 $6,994,960 (245)
    69 57 Los Angeles Dodgers MLB $3,171,453 $60,989 -9 $95,143,575 (56)
    70 86 Borussia
    Dortmund Bundes. $3,122,824 $60,054 18 $89,985,406 (61)
    71 68 Valencia La Liga $3,065,511 $58,952 5 $76,637,764 (75)
    72 109 Buffalo Sabres NHL $3,025,729 $58,187 28 $72,617,500 (82)
    73 78 Chicago Blackhawks NHL $3,013,696 $57,956 11 $69,315,000 (87)
    74 40 Kings XI Punjab IPL $2,945,904 $56,652 -28 $6,345,024 (247)
    75 105 Pittsburgh
    Steelers NFL $2,937,255 $56,486 23 $149,800,000 (11)
    76 92 Cincinnati Reds MLB $2,935,843 $56,459 16 $82,203,616 (65)
    77 71 Seattle Mariners MLB $2,927,789 $56,304 2 $81,978,100 (66)
    78 65 Baltimore Orioles MLB $2,807,897 $53,998 -14 $81,428,999 (67)
    79 64 Atlanta Braves MLB $2,776,998 $53,404 -17 $83,309,942 (64)
    80 85 Oakland Raiders NFL $2,760,784 $53,092 4 $140,800,000 (13)
    81 76 Werder Bremen Bundes. $2,734,924 $52,595 -3 $78,807,905 (71)
    82 84 VfB Stuttgart Bundes. $2,721,154 $52,330 2 $78,411,126 (73)
    83 158 Cleveland
    Indians MLB $2,704,493 $52,009 65 $78,430,300 (72)
    84 139 Toronto
    Blue Jays MLB $2,696,043 $51,847 34 $75,489,200 (76)
    85 61 Colorado
    Rockies MLB $2,692,054 $51,770 -21 $78,069,571 (74)
    86 100 Washington Capitals NHL $2,678,500 $51,510 10 $66,962,500 (92)
    87 98 New York Rangers NHL $2,672,727 $51,399 9 $58,800,000 (120)
    88 77 Boston Bruins NHL $2,657,083 $51,098 -3 $63,770,000 (100)
    89 142 Arizona Diamondbacks MLB $2,653,030 $51,020 34 $74,284,833 (78)
    90 88 Vancouver Canucks NHL $2,651,288 $50,986 0 $68,933,500 (89)
    91 122 Washington Nationals MLB $2,623,747 $50,457 19 $81,336,143 (68)
    92 135 Los Angeles
    Kings NHL $2,585,521 $49,722 25 $62,052,500 (107)
    93 106 Hamburg Bundes. $2,579,904 $49,614 8 $74,340,947 (77)
    94 91 Atletico Madrid La Liga $2,575,531 $49,529 -1 $64,388,286 (98)
    95 119 Carolina Panthers NFL $2,547,059 $48,982 12 $129,900,000 (18)
    96 104 Sevilla La Liga $2,546,216 $48,966 5 $63,655,412 (102)
    97 117 Tampa Bay Lightning NHL $2,538,542 $48,818 11 $60,925,000 (111)
    98 82 Dallas Cowboys NFL $2,527,451 $48,605 -6 $128,900,000 (19)
    99 67 Detroit Red Wings NHL $2,525,600 $48,569 -15 $63,140,000 (104)
    100 81 Philadelphia Flyers NHL $2,524,821 $48,554 -6 $70,695,000 (84)
    101 121 New York Jets NFL $2,509,804 $48,265 13 $128,000,000 (20)
    102 118 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL $2,478,148 $47,657 9 $66,910,000 (93)
    103 124 New York Giants NFL $2,445,098 $47,021 12 $124,700,000 (21)
    104 136 Fulham EPL $2,425,160 $46,638 19 $60,628,997 (114)
    105 97 Detroit Lions NFL $2,405,882 $46,267 -3 $122,700,000 (22)
    106 93 Montreal Canadiens NHL $2,400,001 $46,154 -5 $64,800,033 (97)
    107 101 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL $2,395,948 $46,076 -2 $69,482,500 (86)
    108 120 Everton EPL $2,371,948 $45,614 7 $59,298,699 (118)
    109 128 St. Louis Rams NFL $2,370,588 $45,588 11 $120,900,000 (23)
    110 130 Sunderland EPL $2,367,467 $45,528 13 $59,186,667 (119)
    111 83 San Jose Sharks NHL $2,358,580 $45,357 -12 $63,681,667 (101)
    112 151 Bolton EPL $2,342,962 $45,057 26 $58,574,062 (121)
    113 94 West Ham United EPL $2,338,844 $44,978 -7 $58,471,108 (122)
    114 103 Houston Astros MLB $2,332,731 $44,860 -4 $60,651,000 (113)
    115 96 Calgary Flames NHL $2,327,604 $44,762 -6 $55,862,500 (133)
    116 148 Arizona Cardinals NFL $2,327,451 $44,759 20 $118,700,000 (25)
    117 90 Green Bay Packers NFL $2,313,725 $44,495 -11 $118,000,000 (27)
    118 125 Columbus Blue Jackets NHL $2,296,759 $44,168 6 $62,012,500 (108)
    119 164 Tampa Bay Rays MLB $2,291,911 $44,075 45 $64,173,500 (99)
    120 114 Indianapolis Colts NFL $2,288,235 $44,005 -2 $116,700,000 (30)
    121 113 Miami Dolphins NFL $2,286,275 $43,967 -2 $116,600,000 (31)
    122 108 Houston Texans NFL $2,280,392 $43,854 -4 $116,300,000 (32)
    123 165 Bayer Leverkusen Bundes. $2,278,258 $43,813 45 $65,648,916 (95)
    124 75 Minnesota Vikings NFL $2,274,510 $43,741 -20 $116,000,000 (33)
    125 102 Baltimore Ravens NFL $2,266,667 $43,590 -7 $115,600,000 (35)
    126 138 Anaheim Ducks NHL $2,251,500 $43,298 11 $56,287,500 (131)
    127 63 Newcastle EPL $2,239,808 $43,073 -34 $55,995,199 (132)
    128 115 Philadelphia Eagles NFL $2,233,333 $42,949 -4 $113,900,000 (36)
    129 95 New Jersey Devils NHL $2,231,700 $42,917 -10 $55,792,500 (134)
    130 129 Carolina Hurricanes NHL $2,228,864 $42,863 5 $49,035,000 (155)
    131 74 New Orleans Saints NFL $2,221,569 $42,722 -22 $113,300,000 (37)
    132 127 Dallas Stars NHL $2,205,217 $42,408 3 $50,720,000 (148)
    133 133 San Diego Chargers NFL $2,194,118 $42,195 6 $111,900,000 (38)
    134 80 Seattle Seahawks NFL $2,190,196 $42,119 -19 $111,700,000 (39)
    135 168 Pittsburgh Pirates MLB $2,187,310 $42,064 41 $63,431,999 (103)
    136 116 Minnesota Wild NHL $2,166,442 $41,662 -7 $56,327,500 (130)
    137 132 Blackburn EPL $2,164,252 $41,620 4 $51,942,058 (142)
    138 146 Florida Panthers NHL $2,138,192 $41,119 9 $51,316,607 (144)
    139 Nuremberg Bundes. $2,131,880 $40,998 n/a $61,430,961 (109)
    140 141 Buffalo Bills NFL $2,125,490 $40,875 6 $108,400,000 (41)
    141 155 Jacksonville Jaguars NFL $2,101,961 $40,422 18 $107,200,000 (42)
    142 137 Phoenix Coyotes NHL $2,059,375 $39,603 1 $49,425,000 (153)
    143 134 Fiorentina Serie A $2,053,745 $39,495 -1 $51,343,625 (143)
    144 150 Edmonton Oilers NHL $2,035,556 $39,145 7 $54,960,000 (140)
    145 111 Cleveland Browns NFL $2,033,333 $39,103 -14 $103,700,000 (43)
    146 180 Kansas City Royals MLB $2,030,541 $39,049 52 $60,916,225 (112)
    147 99 San Francisco 49ers NFL $2,017,647 $38,801 -18 $102,900,000 (44)
    148 140 New England Patriots NFL $1,997,059 $38,405 -1 $101,850,000 (45)
    149 79 Chicago Bears NFL $1,996,078 $38,386 -27 $101,800,000 (46)
    150 157 Denver Broncos NFL $1,986,275 $38,198 21 $101,300,000 (48)
    151 145 Wolfsburg Bundes. $1,977,999 $38,038 1 $56,996,834 (127)
    152 172 San Diego Padres MLB $1,973,025 $37,943 33 $55,244,700 (136)
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  24. emma says:

    Good morning my esteemed gunnersphere,

    I am not for the Wenger-Out brigade but rather for the Board-out brigade. Even if Wenger leaves, it changes nothing. Whoever comes in will also find it difficult under the circumstances that Wenger is working. We should give credit to him for what he has done under the tight budget. It’s just that over the last 7 yrs players whom he thought will stick with him through thick and thin(Flamini, Hleb, Fabregas, RVP, Clichy, Adebawhore, Nasri etc) all left. Imagine if this players where still around. He brought in this players, made them who they are but what did he get?(stabbed on the back as soon as they have one good season). Imagine if we still had this players.

    We should be careful what we wish for. I still believe he will steady the ship. If he feels changing the tactical approach of games will be in the best interest of the team so be it.

    What the greedy board is always thinking of is selling our best players and filling their pockets. They don’t have the interest of the board at heart. If we can get rid of this board(Kroenke) and wenger is still not leaving up to his billing. Then I will join the Wenger-Out until then Board-Out plsssssss

  25. rico says:

    No Tsgh, give those players up and send them home and sign players who want to play for Arsenal….

    Roy Hodgson said to one of the youngsters (can’t recall for sure who it was, could be Zaha) who still has to decide on whether to player for England or Ivory Coast.

    If you aren’t ready to commit to England, we don’t want you. Didn’t hear him need to say that about Carl Jenkinson…

    If Big Sam finishes 3rd in the PL, will any of their fans really care how they got there??

  26. rico says:

    Scott I agree re the players need to find their get up and go, and re the tactics, we’ll just have to agree to differ…

    Square pegs in rounds holes is the worst tactic….

  27. tsGH says:

    Also bayern tempted Javi with an astronomical offer which would result in €7 million net for each of the four or five seasons he would sign for. This would place him amongst Bayern’s best paid players, below Ribéry, who earns €8 million a year, and well above Robben, who earns €5 million a season.

    Remember Martinez was earning les than £1m in spain and with the germans tax systems we would have to offer him up to 15% more to equal what he may earn there.

    And those who wonder why AW did not sign Mata etc, I hear Chavs pay some of their salaries offshore for tax purposes.

  28. rico says:

    emma –

    I too want the board out first and foremost… AU in and see what AW does then. If he still signs only bargains, then he can go too….

  29. Scott from Oz says:

    Rici,i didn’t defend the tactics,and i have always said it is Wengers biggest failing.
    I just do not blame him wholly.
    A hell of a lot of our mistakes are not tactical though…..they are just bad concentration by an individual.

  30. rico says:

    Thanks Tsgh, I kind of meant the league as a whole, I understand BM are there at the top but what about 7th and 8th in their league, sides who are where we are 😉

    Citeh Manure and Chelsea pay top wages, but the rest of the clubs don’t…

  31. rico says:

    Have a good day JW, take it steady…

    In principle then Scott, we agree, work ethic, few tactical problems and a weak squad..

    Blimey, there’s a first 😉

  32. tsGH says:

    True square pegs in round holes does not help but even Loew has backed AW to say Poldi should be played on the LHS. He is just a lazy player simples. I was the first to say SC19 should not be played through the middle but maybe if we ever have Diaby and JW10 back SC19 will not play as the no.10 often.

    On Leow that is why I said I did not want him to replace AW because believe it all not I would make a wild guess and say almost 50% of coaches are disciples of the wengerball.

    Just watch an european game one weekend and see how similar most teams set up to Arsenal.

    Most importantly Chelski set-up the same as we do but you can argue Hazard works harder than Poldi in that system. Would I have Torres over Poldi. Hell No. Has anyone noticed Hazard has gone quiet too since October? That is the EPl for you. Considering he has not played anywhere as much minutes as SC19.

  33. emma says:

    Scott – Like you said its’ individual errors that are costing us. Since Gibbs injury we ve really struggled on the LHS(left hand side). Podi is not playing with the same zeal of covering for the LHS like he did in his first 4/5 games. Probably trying to send a message to wenger that he is not suited on the LHS and wenger is too stubborn to notice.
    Dip in form of TV and Kos has not help. Our midfielders have being so sloppy in pressing high up the pitch. I still feel we are missing Diaby. The balance of the team currently is just way too wrong and as a result we struggle.

  34. Ryan L says:

    I agree with you Emma in that the first port of call is change at board level, which seems to mirror the same situation we see with certain squad members – paid way above the market benchmark for their role, appearing to do little, accountable for not much and achieving no success in the eys of the supporter base. That is then subsequently laced with and shrouded in spin, half truths and downright BS.

    I don’t necessarily agree that the budget is tight though, based on certain interpretations of the balance sheet, its probably tighter than it could be. Funds have just been grossly mismanaged – another good reason for change.

  35. Uzochukwu says:

    Super post Allezkev.

    I used to adore Wenger and would go to any extent in defending him anywhere his name was mentioned. But seriously, I started doubting even his ability to motivate his players especially after the Manure game.

    Your post has jolted me back to balanced reasoning. He has acived for us in the past, led us outa trouble in the past. Let’s support the team and hope he can do same again.

    But he needs to come out of his mould as a father figure to the players and become more ruthless as a modern manager, as our patience is running out. There is a difference between losing 8-2 to manure while figting, and losing 2-1 tamely, as though manure players are our players’ masters.

    Let him get more rutless as these players do not have any loyalty when they are in position to call the shots.

  36. rico says:

    It did Scott, I knew you’d come round in the end 😉

    Ryan – ‘Funds have just been grossly mismanaged’ –

    Just how very true is that comment…

    We only have to look at the wages of some of our players….

  37. rico says:

    Uzochukwu – agree, it is not the losing which hurts the most, it’s the way we are losing…

    With more effort this season, we could have been sitting at the top of the PL..

  38. Bendtnersgone says:

    Morning all. Regarding the defensive issue, I think we’ve done quite well defending in open play. It all seems to fall apart at set pieces into our box. Why we persist in marking space instead of an actual opponent baffles and infuriates me. IT DOESN’T WORK ARSENE! Pick a man and stick to the bugger. He runs, you go with him. It’s not that difficult. At corners stick a man on each post. There, harder for the opposition to score. Not infallible but far better than zonal marking. We could do that without switching to a 5 man defence.

  39. rico says:

    BG, or should that be ‘It doesn’t work Steve’…?

    Who is in charge of the defensive training, surely it’s not AW..?

  40. Scott from Oz says:

    I am off guys…….this time of year kills me,what with all these bloody early starts.
    That and Rico and i agreed on something,so i am leaving on a high 🙂
    Have a great day all.

  41. emma says:

    BG – We’ve got a keeper(mannone) who is too scared of aerial balls. There are some situations he needs to come out and punch but what he does is come for it and withdraw into his shell. He doesn’t have command of his 6 yard box. Hope Szcesny returns for the NLD

  42. rico says:

    Got to pop off for a bit, laters…

    emma, I read Ches is back, but will he walk straight back in?

    Tsgh, thanks for the earlier links, don’t know why but they went into spam…

  43. allezkev says:

    Morning all you Happy Gooners.
    Morning Rico and cheers for the sub…

    5 at the back, could simply be a way of fitting his 3 centre-backs into the team?

    He really needs them all to play, and i suppose even Santos could play in that system, as a wide midfielder…

    Off to catch-up…

  44. Bendtnersgone says:

    Very true, Emma. Like Berbatov’s first on Saturday. That too needs addressing but our defenders need to prevent the opposition from attacking the ball so easily. Hopefully Chesney will come back with renewed vigour to help the goalkeeping issue.

  45. Xr!s says:

    5 at the back???? Or appropriately,3 at the back… It makes sense but it would have been better to have started this experiment in pre-season. It will work only if the defence maintains their shape and everyone of them sticks to their duties,leave the attacks to the attackers,keep their concentration through out the game. As for we,the fans,we’ve got to pray 4 no injuries and loss of form.

    P.S: Walcott should stay

  46. tsGH says:

    Bedtnersgone I disagree with your assertion that zonzl marking does not work. In fact there are stats to show that man marking is even worst than zonal marking. The issue is not the system but the lack of taking initiative and being too placid during set pieces. A famous example used to slate zonal marking is the goal we concede against the 4hitty but if we are being fair and realistic we concede 1 goal from 8 corners and several set pieces so …

    read an excellent post of a defender of this system and see if you still hold this view

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/tacticsandanalysis/id/225?cc=5739#

    http://www.rafabenitez.com/web/index.php?act=mostrarBlog&id_entrada=32&idioma=in

    watch the following goals we concede at schalke and tell me how you expect a team to man mark opposition players who are all standing at the edge of the 18 yard box instead of the 6 yard box like they have done 10s of years of playing football.

    http://www.soccer-blogger.com/2012/11/06/schalke-vs-arsenal-2-2-highlights-2012-walcott-giroud-huntelaar-farfan-goals-video-champions-league/

  47. tsGH says:

    3 at the back is the only way forward for me imho. We the matches we have lost was due to 2 reasons. The opposition player playing in the hole behind our DMs and causing havoc the way DB10 earned his living with us. The other one is just pure class one errors like the one TV4 made at the old toilet grounds.

    Tell me a team that can recover from such an error in the first 2 minutes of a match playing against manure? Especially if that error is from a defensive lynchpin like TV who on occasions this season has kept Belgium in the qualifiers of the WC.

  48. allezkev says:

    Ginge, that’s a great list….

    Are Arsenal top of the wage list for KSE…?
    It certainly looked that way to me…

    Again, it shows a painfull lack of investment by Syrupy Stan….

    Talking of ‘Deadwood’, i think the majority of that item, you’ll most likely find in the Arsenal Boardroom.

    Acting as a front for Kroenke, as he prepares to syphon money out of our club, to use on his US activities…..

  49. allezkev says:

    Ginge, interesting to see that the Chavs are suffering a bit of a dip in form…

    And look at Shittie in Europe…..

    So it’s not ONLY Arsenal….

  50. allezkev says:

    Did someone mention on here the other day, that RVP has dropped out of the Dutch National team?

    How often did he do that for Wenger when he was fit???

    Again, it’s the players letting Wenger, AND US, down…..

    How many times do these overpaid pricks put Arsenal before their own selfishness???

    Rosicky? Diaby??

  51. stevepalmer1 says:

    Reading some of your comments and i can understand how some of you have got the hump with our board. I can understand that some may feel that they are filling their pockets with all the profits how Kroenke has his money tied up in francises and runs a tight ship. How our chairman puts his foot in it on every oppotunity he has and how many just seem silent and just get on with doing what they are paid for. Let me remind you that we make profit where many clubs over spend we are buying our stadium here others have had theirs given to them some owners think nothing about profits only status and also some managers ho move from one rich owner to the next without a care of what might happen to the club. We have to appreciate that Arsenal is a very well run club some like myself think we are the model for other clubs Kroenke Hillwood Gazedes and all the rest have wrankled me i must admit but we are a solid financially successfull club. We are told constantly that there is money available hether that is true i don’t really know but when i see our top players sold for absolute fortunes i start to believe that the money is there should it be called for. In all the time Wenger has been here he has not been known for a great spender he has an economics degree and has far more knowlege of finances than i will ever have if he feels that a certain buy is not economicly viable i can only suppose he knows better than me. Kroenke keeps him in the position his in he is no mug either you don’t become a billionare by being incompetant. Wenger has made us a regular in the CL and that makes 30 mill a year runs in cups also brings in money fourth place in the league also brings its benefits the sale of players for profit is part and parcel of football buy cheap and sell dear not all deals work out like that but when you count the money up at the end of the day Wenger has proved he is competant. Yes i understand your frustrations at not winning trophies i’m with you there but for a business it is ideal running as it is all thats missing is form we have a bloody good squad yes one or two are deadwood but it must not be their time to be offloaded they will all be sold at some point thats the business we are in .Kroenke may be many things but as far as an owner he ticks all the boxes we start winning and he will be an all over success.

  52. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Fair point Steve…. But how much profit (if anything) would we see without the selling off of real estate?

  53. allezkev says:

    Tbh Ginge, if our defenders did their job properly, at dead-ball situations (Mannone as well), then 5 at the back (or 3) would not have even been mooted….

    Our defence coped at Stoke RFU, they coped at Anfield and did ok at Upton Park, conceding to an outstanding strike…

    At Carrow Road it was a defensive cock-up.

    At Old Toilet it was a defensive cock-up.

    At the Mad Stad our defence looked like Fred Karno’s Army.

    Basically players not concentrating and doing their jobs…

  54. allezkev says:

    Thanks for the positive comments btw…

    Uzochukwa, the players have a responsibility, it’s not just the manager….
    What about some self motivation, professional pride….

  55. tsGH says:

    Hi Mr Kev. I have to say it is a very good post you wrote today. 2nd only to Rico’s Howard Webb is from old trafford post. 😀

    I think we are all disappointed because we were very optimistic after the Diaby liver-poo showing. Imho we are just 4 points of where we should be. My reason is that we took 1 point from fulham last season with ‘Anum’ and Songiho playing.

    We took 4 points of Norwich last season but it should have been 3 imho as when we played them away exactly a year ago on the 19.11.11 we only managed 2-1 and they outplayed us. Remember we lost at $hitty last year too but we managed 1 point this year even though it should have been 3.

    Stats show that we are roughly where we are last year if compared head to head results. Realistically we are 2 points short.

    And as you have rightly pointed out the Chavs are struggling a bit but what they have over us is that they have Mata (who was average last year by the way) with a year experience in the league. Additioanlly they have Obi Mikel, Ramires and the chavs deadwood Lampard (according to chavs supporters) who are helping Hazard and Oscar to settle. We on the other hand only have MA08 in the middle without the new Zidane Diaby in the mix.

    If we had lost Diaby even a game later and drawn or beaten the chelskis their season would have been over. remember the first goal we conceded was due to 2 errors. The first being that the Ox failed who replaced Diaby faile to jump and then the Kozzer mishap to allow the goal.

    I am optimistic about the NLD because AW has VB’s number the same way Rednose’s has AW number. 😉 It is not a clash of philosophies this time round but a master vs an admirer and I think the old master will come on top.

    COYGss.

  56. allezkev says:

    Kinda sumed up that night Rocky, didn’t it…

    Great for the TV viewers, but maybe 2-0 would have looked better for us.

    Rocky, can you imagine ‘that’ defence facing Chelsea???

    That’s if we get past Bradford mate…

  57. allezkev says:

    Great points Sir Steve…

    Whatever anyone thinks of Dein, when he left, so did the clubs ambition to win trophies…

  58. stevepalmer1 says:

    Hi Rocky good point there mate but the realestate belonged to us any way and did we make a profit. The Emirates was funded by banks not a penny was spent by Islington council to help us where we bring lots of business to them we have been on our own and we have overcome the obsticals i see that as very good business. Islington council have missed the chance of a very big profit but then they are not run by Arsenal.

  59. rockyrocastle07 says:

    I shudder to think about it Kev. I am really downbeat about the NLD. We need to see Verm and/or Kozzer getting the boot up the arse that they massively need at the mo and turn in a quality performance. I really don’t understand why both are so out of sorts this year. Maybe the emergence of BFG as our first choice CB has unsettled them? I hope that’s not the case, as that would show a massive lack of ambition and lack of guts for a fight. We’ll see.

  60. rockyrocastle07 says:

    True Steve, true. Did Islington Council seriously not help? What a pisser. Why is every other council falling over themselves to help other teams? We were all hoping that when the Spuds got a new stadium they’d never be able to compete as we have / are. But that won’t be the case if Tottenham council stumps up a boatload of cash to help.

  61. allezkev says:

    Ginge, perceptive mate, Diaby did a lot of defending at corners, free-kicks, maybe as the spare man to pick up runners.

    A bit like Vieira and Petit and Gilberto also used to do…

    Not sure that Arteta, Ramsey, Coquelin et al, have filled the void Diaby has left…

    Of course, Wenger should have made contingency plans for Diaby, that’s where i would criticise him…

  62. tsGH says:

    Allow me to echo the remarks of Mr Kev,excellent point Sir Steve.

    As I mentioned earlier, I have re-watched some of our games and I have to agree with Kev almost all the goals could have been stopped.

    On AW and some fans thinking Aw does not want to spend money, please recall the dealings of the summer of 2011. The media will like to say AW was inept not to spend money but the truth is he bought Gerv with the money he had which is £15M which he had to use for both purchase and first year salary.

    The fact is that we did not buy until we were guaranteed CL place. So thing about it again guys if we do not have the CL place it will only get worse.

  63. tsGH says:

    Exactly my point Kev on Diaby.

    Last weekend those who say Le Coq is a DM saw how inexperienced he is because after 10 minutes in the first half MA08 and Le Coq changed position. That then allowed Ruiz to dictate play in our third. It did not also help with SC19 allowing Sidwell to spread play from his defensive position. MA08 only dropped back to the DM position after Ramsey came on. Even though Ramsey was careless on possession I think he changed the game by getting into tackles which resulted in a card. Before his introduction no one was doing that apart from OG12.

  64. allezkev says:

    Rocky, Arsenal had to overcome a residents association, peopled by locals whose remit was to drive the club out of the borough…

    Most came originally from outside the borough and therefore had no alliegence to Arsenal.

    One was a prominant BBC polical journalist, with cod’s eyes and a bald head, his name escapes me…
    He lived just off of Ashburton Grove and happens to be from Macclesfield and is a ManUre fan…

    He was quite anti-stadium to start with, but went strangely quiet when his background became public knowledge…

    Islington Council are full of Guardian reading, tree-hugging, corderoy & sandal wearing, eco-warriors, who hate football and by association hate us…

    Islington Council have, in the majority of cases, done sweet feck all for AFC…

    That’s why, as much as i loved being in Highbury, my choice for a new stadium was always close to King’s Cross station…

  65. stevepalmer1 says:

    I think yo guys ar right when you say that the players are letting not only Wenger down but us as well i have seen some of the teams that you guys have put down only for some of them freeze as soon as they are needed mistakes from midfield where balls have gone astray and has cought us out and results in a goal against is not something a manager can stop at times we feel that a certain player is a weaklink and in a couple of weeks we are singing his praises Theo being a prime example managing a set of players must be as frustrating as it is for us to watch.

  66. allezkev says:

    Where i would also criticise Wenger, is by his reluctance to act sooner, when players are clearly not doing their jobs.

    That is, take them off.
    Of course, only if he has an alternative on the bench…

    Santos was a disaster at ManUre, but Wenger compounded that by not acting sooner as things went from bad to worse.
    You know, maybe TV05 might not have hooked his clearance, if he’d had more confidence and support from his left-back?

  67. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Islinton council sounds like a massive bowl of c*nt soup then Kev. I knew they had a bit of agg with residents but didn’t realise it was strongly opposed. Who is the BBC guy? Not that twat Nick Robinsonis it?!

  68. tsGH says:

    talking of AW not acting fast enough. Antonio Conte changed from the AW set-up to 3-5-2 after the chelski formation nullified Pirlo the same way opposition have nullified arteta but it has taken AW 6 weeks to catch up.

  69. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Afternoon Ginge. I can’t see why AW persisted with Santos. Knowing full-well he’s going to get targeted and torn a new one every time he plays.

  70. allezkev says:

    Arsenal‏@ArsenalTNS

    According to Spanish Reports Arsenal Want Reina to compete with Szczesny between the posts. #AFC

    If i remember correct, the last goalkeeper Arsenal signed from Liverpool was Jim Furnell, bet you remember him Stevo?

    Finger’s Furnell as he soon became known…

    Ah, those were the carefree days of muddy pitches, peanut sellers on the terraces, hot Bovril drink & Smith’s crisps at half-time, 6d programme, 2s & 6p entrance fee, Ian Ure at centre-half, getting soaked on the Clock End when it rained, and moaning about a lack of investment from the Board…

    Some thing’s never change eh Stevo..???

  71. stevepalmer1 says:

    Its suprising how an older keeper can have an intant impact on younger keepers, remember when Jens came back for five minutes and in his first game he raced out like a madman and just after that Czez thought he was supermamn and done the same bloody idiots the pair of them

  72. allezkev says:

    Joe Baker and George Eastham , Wavy, i just missed them.

    George Graham, John Radford, Colin Addison, David Court, Terry Neill, etc.

    1966-67 was my debut for the 1st team…

  73. tsGH says:

    Santos plays like he is on the Copacabana having a kick around. he is talented but the EPl is a different kettle of fish…

  74. tsGH says:

    Steve davis of crewe thinks Aneke is as good as Powell. Another strong midfielder who can possibly add to the box-to-box position with his power.

    Afobe seems to be a big game player as well. He bangs in goals at international level for fan.

  75. DutchGooner10 says:

    Afternoon my Gooner family,

    I wish our players would spank their bottoms vin rouge for 90 + running soley on their own. Instead we see cart horses needing a whip to pull more than their weight or thorough breeds that have no sense of direction without a saddle on their back. Not all Wenger’s doing is it.

    Syrupy Stan doesn’t own a football club in his mind. When dept is cleared he owns the ground we walk on, asking a fee for the privilege. He’s an capital exile, parking his liquiditable assets overseas.

    Yankee Country hangs by the edge of its nails on a deficit cliff ever since the crisis hit mainstream media. If they loose grip and plunge into the abyss Obama is obliged by constitution to fill the gap by law enforced taxes closely related to extortion. Portfolio net worth on US soil will be sliced, first in half, then in quarters and so on. Depending how long financial chaos persists.

    Really peeps, precautions is all we are, spreading risk over several baskets.

  76. DutchGooner10 says:

    As our planet has become a global village, wealth is dived in monetary zones. Your financial strengths are laced to safe harbors consequently.

  77. DutchGooner10 says:

    WATH

    Peanuts aren’t allowed in the Ems, are they? Dangerous projectiles and symbolism to racism when thrown at Evra for example.

  78. DutchGooner10 says:

    Okay I get it, need to change my smelly. Adam you still selling out of the back of your Reliant Robin? If you’re doing DHL, I will try one each.

  79. JW says:

    In amongst the nostalgia for peanuts and Bovril don’t forget the gents where you had to wade through six inches of urine to get to the flooded trough.

    I remember one occasion when I was advised to p**s in the raincoat pocket of the bloke standing in front of me as I hadn’t noticed the bloke behind me p*****g in mine.

    Oh! Those were the days!!

  80. tsGH says:

    I agree JM-Reina has more gaffes than flapianski recently..

    DG10 stay positive because finish 4th is still at hand… 😉

  81. tsGH says:

    Yes Mr JW. I don’t still understand what AW means when he says priority…

    He showed during the CoC match recently that he was serious about it however just 2 days ago he was saying being in the CoC puts a lot of pressure on the squad.

  82. DutchGooner10 says:

    Ginge

    4th depends on cohesion being restored for the season, here on and beyond. Scums will have an appetite for us at current standings.

  83. tsGH says:

    So if we win the CoC and finish 6th what shall be the consensus of the season, as majority of fans will prefer any cup to finishing in the CL stop?

  84. DutchGooner10 says:

    JW

    Was it strictly prohibited carrying a starved rodent about in your raincoat pocket, purposely for those occasions? Or a mini snapper turtle? 😉

  85. DutchGooner10 says:

    All this cry for tin pots is nonsense, game per game is where we’re at.

    It’s as Forrest says; ‘ A Gooners life is like a box of chocolates, never promise yourself what to expect.’

  86. DutchGooner10 says:

    Ginge

    Mars isn’t fist pumping like ‘HELL YEAH!’ over it. From energy bar to obesity bomb, it changes the molecular advantages they say. 😛

  87. DutchGooner10 says:

    Rico

    I’m still mad raving rabies over our last display on home turf. Take our blushes as a souvenir, please. You’re welcome.

  88. DutchGooner10 says:

    Rico

    The longer it takes for us to turn on the style, the longer your memory awaits a refreshing update.

  89. rico says:

    Bacary Sagna says his five years at Arsenal have been “magic” so far and has described the Club as a family.

    The France international celebrated his fifth anniversary at Emirates Stadium this summer having joined Arsenal from Auxerre in July 2007.

    The 29-year-old has developed into one of the finest right backs in world football and is still enjoying himself in north London.

    “It has been magic. I’ve enjoyed a lot playing for Arsenal and I still love it,” Sagna told Arsenal Player. “Every time I go to the pitch, I just give 100 per cent for the team.

    “[The Club] is like my family. My personal family is in France but I feel at home here, I feel happy to come training and I feel relaxed. There are not many big clubs where you feel that confident.

    “I think I have progressed a lot – that was my target, to come to such a big club and improve.

    “I am very calm compared to when I came, I used to be a bit stressed before games but now I am totally relaxed because of my team-mates and the manager.”

    Sagna admits he felt a degree of apprehension about making the move from France to England, but is delighted with how things have worked out.

    “I was a bit nervous because my English was [very basic], I was leaving my family and friends and it was a new life for me,” he said.

    “The first day was long. I had a lot of tests and I just had to wait for the FA to approve my contract. For one week I was scared something would happen.

    “They finally [approved it] and I first started here at Emirates Stadium against Fulham. We won the game in the last 10 minutes, so it was just magic.”

  90. tsGH says:

    We will be fine on saturday believe me. I know it is a 12:45pm kick-off and this season our stats are 0% but on saturday with JW10 and Ox back come on guys …

    Lat year we lost 2-1 because Phil Dowd decided to ignore a blatant hand ball and offside goal from Van da fart.

  91. allezkev says:

    Ah, urinating in a raincoat pocket was something that passed me by JW.
    The crowds weren’t usually large enough to prevent a visit to the ‘Black Hole of the Clock End’, sometimes referred to as the Gents, not that i ever saw a gentleman in there tbh, just a loads of oiks…
    Including me… 😀

  92. tsGH says:

    I will definitely give the Hell Yeah bars a try soon.

    DG the Mrs wants to go to disneyland instead this weekend so I am gonna miss A’dam this time round.

  93. rico says:

    Are players too relaxed before a game, is that some of the problem??

    Sagna:

    “I am very calm compared to when I came, I used to be a bit stressed before games but now I am totally relaxed because of my team-mates and the manager.”

  94. rico says:

    Who is the ref for this one, any idea?

    The ladies weren’t much better Kev, and often full of men 😉

    Dg, I understand how you feel 😉

  95. allezkev says:

    Dutch, eloquant as ever, any rumours of player linkage to Arsenal emanating from the Nederlands, that you may have noticed during your days of contentment, away from HH and it’s intrigues… 😛

  96. allezkev says:

    Arsenal’s left-back Andre Santos is believed to be one of a number of players interesting Brazilian side Sao Paulo. Santos, who has fallen out of favour at the Emirates since a poor run of form since coming in to cover for the injured Kieran Gibbs, only arrived at the Emirates in 2011 however he has failed to make an impact in the side or with the fans despite his jovial nature.
    Speaking to Globo Esporte, Sao Paulo head coach Ney Franco said
    We are in the market looking for a player on the left side of defence. Let’s not talk about names so not to derail the negotiations, but we are studying some options. It’s not necessary to talk about right-back. I feel very calm with Paulo Miranda and Douglas.
    At 29 Santos would probably only have one move left in him and it is not clear if Arsenal would be willing to let him go in Januar…

  97. DutchGooner10 says:

    Ginge

    Can’t blame her, getting lost in a maze wearing your woolly nickers, breaks a lot of sweat.:)

    Besides Mickey Mouse throws a blinding parade in the holiday period. All sparkly and such. Cheaper than butchering the pearls and ivory in our capital. You should be pleased. 😉

    Mars bars deep-fried, have been around for a while here also. Some even experimenting with sweet chilli sauce on top. I will pass on the opportunity.

  98. rico says:

    If AW lets Santos go, he’ll have to spend some money…

    Mmmmm, Santos will be staying 😉

    You guys seen Reading want Arshavin…? Or is that old news…

  99. DutchGooner10 says:

    Afternoon Kev,

    Players or promising talents they could serve as merchandise? I like Kevin Strootman from PSV but he will end up at Old Toilet is the rumour. Also Bas Dost, a striker, from Wolfsburg. Though too similar in Giroud’s mould.

    JM mentioned Jordie Clasie from Feyenoord a few weeks ago. Still in transition from acknowledged to household name. Yet, plays midfield. Already constipated within our ranks.

    Not many lefties for full back position.

  100. DutchGooner10 says:

    Only left back that jumps my mind is Derek Boerrigter from Ajax. Due to hit his prime years, level headed, great at driving forward, slacky on defensive duties but that could be ironed out as he takes directions well.

    Small note, he had his fair share of injuries recently. Could be a steal, like rednose pulled with Butner, who was injured when bought.

  101. Micko says:

    Suffering ducks Kev, 4th place and a cup.
    Your right, he will see out his contract but if that’s the case I wish some-one would hit the fast forward button.
    Personally, I’ve had enough of him, don’t think he has the same passion as us fans anymore.
    The alarm bells and blue flashing lights should have been a warning of things to come after the Reading game but they seem to have gone unheeded, were any lessons learnt from it, our defensive displays are worse than ever.
    Has he the same hunger anymore, watch some of his early years, it’s like he’s swapped his fillet steak for sausages.
    All his success came when we were at Highbury, seems like a long time ago now.
    Pep Guardiala is looking for a fresh challenge, I’d love to think there’s a possibility it could happen in the summer otherwise it’s roll on 2014.

  102. allezkev says:

    PSV and ManUre seem to have an understanding when it comes to transfer business Dutch…
    Van Nistelrooj and did not Jaap Stam come from Eindhoven?

  103. DutchGooner10 says:

    Kev

    PSV delivers men ready to step up their game. Very matured personalities. Ajax has the name out of nostalgia. Wish Arsenal had the understanding ManU has.

    Micko tears have all dried up ages ago. Taking me salt from my bank account now.

  104. DutchGooner10 says:

    Milk & honey just around the corner Micko. Path to the promised land can only be trotted if you’re not too heavy on pennies in your pocket. It will only drag your spirit down, towing the extra weight. Spending them helps to lift the burden. 😉

  105. rico says:

    Don’t know Micko, doubt we will get either…

    Huntelaar would be the best and cheaper in Jan as his contract runs out in the summer …

    But, with all the forward players we have, can’t see AW signing a goal scorer….

  106. Micko says:

    Dutch, always find myself reading your posts twice, I can never fully take them in first time around.
    Oh and by the way Wenger doesn’t bother with loose change he just carries notes, the only place he’ll be leading us to is cuckoo land at this rate.

  107. allezkev says:

    Tbh, i can sympathise Mick, it is difficult to stay positive, but would Guardiola take the Arsenal job anyway…

    Any ambitious manager wouldn’t look twice at working for Kroenke…

  108. DutchGooner10 says:

    Honest, are more people having trouble reading my posts? Being serious here. Feedback is appreciated. I’m among friends here, to care enough.

  109. nigel tufnel says:

    Kev, i would be thrilled with top four the way things are going. But very disappointed to say that. I thought we would be better ths season

  110. Micko says:

    Kev, you don’t know until you ask, Wenger only has another season left in him, he’s not gonna be around for ever, forward planning and all that.
    I’ve got this nasty feeling we’ll all be hopping of the ceiling Saturday lunchtime.

  111. allezkev says:

    Tuffers, makes sense, my expectations were higher after our start to the season, but now i’ve toned them down….

    Reality can be a bitch….

    But i stand by top four finish and a cup being a good season…

  112. DutchGooner10 says:

    Rico

    That’s just me being bored with my own words floating around in the brain soup. That’s when I take the liberty of experimental discourse. Trying a different approach to matters.

  113. nigel tufnel says:

    Kev, i would be thrilled with top four the way things are going. But very disappointed to say that. I thought we would be better ths season. Id rather top four than a cup. Champs league is too important to recruiting talent. And the money it brings also.

  114. Micko says:

    Starting to get a bit worried, am I the only one who is still waiting for an invite to Tsgh’s / Potters joint birthday party on Saturday !

    Laters guys, gotta go down the pub to watch a game of footie, over and out.

  115. rico says:

    I missed the birthday bash, in fact I didn’t even see it was Potter & Tsgh birthday, three points form the totts would be the perfect gift…

    See you Micko, enjoy the game…

  116. allezkev says:

    Mick, i don’t know if i’m still feeling the fall-out from Norwich, but i just can’t get up for the Scummers like i usually do….

    Thanks to Hill-Wood/Kroenke/AGM, i just can’t get any juices flowing (sorry Rico 😉 ) for the NLD…

    In fact, if i don’t go to another home game this season, it won’t bother me.
    They can all fcuk off…

    Got tickets for Villa and Wigan, that’ll do me…
    Spending a couple of afternoon’s with the kind of fans that Hill-Wood has complete distain for…
    Well good on them, salt of the earth…
    Hill-Wood can ‘do one’….

  117. rico says:

    I can see Leeds beating Chelsea in the next C1 Cup match, Chelsea will have to rotate big time because they have a shocking fixture list.

    We need to pull our socks up and take this C1 Cup seriously and get to Wembley…

  118. DutchGooner10 says:

    Enjoy the tiffin Micko. Don’t be bothered by me asking about my scribblings, I was doubting the sense I try to make myself tbh.

    TSGH will be flying to Disney on Saturday, so I guess he wants the big ears for his birthday. 😉

  119. DutchGooner10 says:

    Seb has gone from strength to strength ever since we sold him. Might have well been the sort of attitude we could use today.

  120. allezkev says:

    Blimey that was a turnaround, i bet it’s like watching Stoke RFU playing Sunderland.

    Like having your teeth pulled out….

  121. tsGH says:

    Hi DG,

    Hey behave, I managed to arrange the visit to Wengerland for friday. I shall be back early flight saturday ready to see us win 3-1. 😀

    DG I wanted to ask you about Maarten Martens. How good is he?

  122. tsGH says:

    Yes. Rico aint life a b—tch. Women have it their way all the time. 😉

    Its not really my kinda place. I grew up in hackney and my disney was definitely my estate.

  123. tsGH says:

    We went for Larson but he said he did not want to play as a RB. Remember he was the understudy for Lauren. Another midfielder AW tried to convert into a RB or wing back in a back 4 system.Doesn’t make sense unless you are from the Wenger/Cruyff school of management.

  124. rico says:

    Not my cup of tea either Tsgh, never been and never want to either…

    You’ll be wacked doing that trip in a day….

  125. rico says:

    Since then Tsgh, he was available on a freebie in 2011 after leaving b’ham on a free, but Sunderland snapped him up…

  126. rico says:

    Cant believe Wenger let him go Kev, guess we must have had 100’s of midfielders/wingers back then… bit like now 😉

    It is boring…..

    Tsgh – we’ll be going 5-3-2 🙂

  127. DutchGooner10 says:

    Evening Ginge,

    So you’re just touching ground to French kiss Minnie Mouse and flee the country before the gendarmes are on your heels. 😛

    Maarten Martens, Belgium winger, looks lively in Dutch competition but for me a coin on its side making the leap to a bigger league. He’s diminutive in size and build, unlike Dembele.

  128. rico says:

    Funny really though, both Larrson and Freddie left at the same time, yet you would think that Seb was the natural replacement really…

    Oh well, that’s life…

  129. tsGH says:

    Its going to be 5-1-5 the way all our forwards want to play upfront and through the middle. 😀

    DG- I see re Martens he looks very good at international level andfor PSV. I like the way all the Chocolate eaters seem to work hard of the ball. But you are right we need to add height to our squad.

    Re MM or 33, well I am going to cast an one on your best friend David Ickes comments on the place that is all. 😉

  130. rico says:

    It’s getting near my bed time 😉

    Another busy one tomorrow….

    Enjoy the rest of you day guys and gals.

    ‘Til tomorrow, Night all…

  131. tsGH says:

    I have not seen a player improve so much over a summer like Capoue has. His passing looks very precise all of a sudden. I love how he keeps things simple in the middle. But Arsenal fans may think it will be sideways.

  132. DutchGooner10 says:

    Ginge thumbs up re 33. Lovely depiction. I believe Disney has an area specifically for the toddlers to their hearts content. You don’t need to drag your heels across the park for his excitement.

  133. tsGH says:

    You crack me up DG.lol

    Yes Kev- Ibrahimovic seems to carry Sweden whilst wooney would rather stay at home to sparay tan his mrs.

  134. DutchGooner10 says:

    Night madam. Remember Smudge says no socks.

    Ginge the Belgians have a superb talent generation, equally/ on par with the jerries, could be the surprise of the next World Cup.

  135. tsGH says:

    I can not believe we went for the worlds best player instead of Ibrahimovic.

    Its funny how almost every signing AW makes you can spot the original version at a richer club.

    Anelka- Trezeguet
    Wiltord- Van Nisterooy
    Reyes- Ronaldo
    Cazorla- Iniesta
    Squllaci- Baressi

  136. DutchGooner10 says:

    Ginge van Gaal has won all his qualifiers but one, friendly interlulls not his cuppa. Testing youngsters to succeed the dreadful bunch that played at the Euros.

  137. tsGH says:

    Ah ok. My bad. The Dutch are my fave european team but after the Van Pursey saga, I had no choice but to switch to the Kaizers. Sorry. 😮

  138. DutchGooner10 says:

    Don’t be sorry Ginge. International tournaments have declined in quality overall, me thinks. Only semi-finals and finals interest me these days.

  139. Micko says:

    Kev, Wigan away, ooh errr !
    Dutch, nothing wrong with your scribblings matey, very morish, always have me coming back for more.
    Anyhow’s could be worse, could be an Ireland supporter ! Bloody Greeks.

  140. Scott from Oz says:

    The Aussies won last night 🙂
    Our kids played…barely a reglar starter to be seen,and they lads did bloody well.

  141. Bradster says:

    Today I’m ashamed to be a South African. We played Zambia yesterday in a FRIENDLY. We dominated the game but couldn’t score and lost. Reason I’m ashamed is that the fans after the game decided it’s Zambia’s fault and stoned their bus.

    It’s disgusting to see that and tarnishes the good name we had from hosting the world cup. I don’t go to our football games anymore because of the way the fans act. I prefer to watch us play rugby and cricket. Not only because we have a hope in hell of winning but it’s a safer environment.

  142. Scott from Oz says:

    Well said Bradster.
    I watch the game for enjoyment and entertainment.
    A loss is not the end of the world,in my humble opinion.
    Morning all….TSGH…how goes it champion??

  143. rico says:

    Morning all..

    New Post will go up around 9.30, as long as the scheduled setting works. Got to pop out for an hour….

  144. allezkev says:

    Morning Scott… 🙂

    Yeah, i know what you mean mate, arthritis in my left-knee has definately affected ‘my’ ability to lose my marker in the pub at closing time…

    Not good..

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