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Roberto Martinez mind games?

There is all sorts of stuff in the football news, the Chelsea goal that never was, the Ashley Young impression of Tom Daley, again!

Gary Neville and Arsene Wenger are blaming the foreign players for showing their English counterparts the way to win free-kicks and penalties and our own manager is in favour of any player caught taking a dive, should be banned!

Well, my view is, there is technology out there, get it sorted and bring it in, that’s the only way to clean up the game. It’s clear referees need some help, it’s about time they got it. Too much is at stake in today’s game…

Enough of that, onto tonight and the Martinez mind games, or is he speaking the truth?

Tonight we face one of the toughest sides in the Premier League in my opinion and their position in the League is just wrong. Wigan were robbed against Chelsea, they battered the league leaders 1-0 and their manager has his side playing football the right way.

No hoof ball, no dirty tactics either and I truly hope that after tonight they win their remaining games and survive the drop. Martinez comes across as being a good man too and he always speaks from the heart.

Having beaten Manchester United on their own ground, Martinez was asked about their next fixture:

Probably this is an even tougher task, we are going away from home and playing against a side which have been as successful as ever at home.

If you look at the last few performances they have been untouchable in the way they are playing their football, controlling games and scoring goals.

But we know that if we are at our best, we can be competitive against anyone.

Is he taking the pressure off of his own team?

Is he trying to instil a little bit of complacency in our side, getting us to think that it’s all going to be easy?

My own view is he’s trying to take the pressure off his own side, letting them know that no-one really expects them to win.

However, we all know that is when sides can play at their best, just look at Manchester City’s results after we beat them. Mancini dismissed their chances of winning the league on that day, now they are right back in the race…

So, this is where we step in, we don’t listen to all the talk about who is better than who, we concentrate on the job ahead and as we know, that kicks off at 8pm UK time tonight and we need three massive points!


Wigan have won three of their last four league games and lost just two of their last 10.

The Latics have won more games away from home (4) in the Premier League than they have at the DW Stadium (3) this season.

Roberto Martinez’s side are the lowest scorers in the Premier League this season with 31 goals. Wigan have scored just once in the opening 20 minutes of Premier League games this season – Jordi Gomez’s seventh-minute strike in a 3-3 draw with Blackburn in November.

As for us – well no stats as usual.

Wigan will get something from this game if we are too complacent and think this game is a walk over!

It won’t be, Wigan are fighting for survival and they will give their all from start to finish and we need to do the same!

There are just five games left until the end of the season, we need 100% from every player in every one of those games, nothing less will do!

Have a good day all….



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295 Responses to Roberto Martinez mind games?

  1. Scott From Oz says:

    Morning Rico.
    I don’t think Martinez is the kind to indulge in mind games.
    He’s got a very good side who are brilliantly managed,and I reckon he has total respect for pyr club.
    I’d be amazed and disappointed if our boys take them lightly.

  2. devilgunner says:

    Good Morning Guys and Chicks of the Near Exploding Gunners’ Faith.

    Good post Rico. Hope you are better today and getting to peak fitness. We do need you for the end of season run in. HH has more twists and turns than the EPL. ;)

  3. Scott From Oz says:

    And for OUR club,too!!!

  4. Scott From Oz says:

    Morning Devil.

  5. devilgunner says:

    Morning Scott. How are you mate??

    Sun decking outside the mud hut with a fishing rod in your hand? ;)

    Or getting a well earned rest after a hard day at work??

  6. rico says:

    Morning All…..

  7. rico says:

    Morning devil & Scott,

    thanks devil, few more weeks and i’ll be a right as rain thanks ;)

  8. madgunner says:

    ermm no rico they are not one of the most difficult teams to play against in the prem. The position they are in shows that and the fact they beat UTD and where unlucky against Chelsea has IMHO no bearing on the game to night. UTD where complacent and Chelsea find it difficult to play against ball playing sides, thats why we hammered them at their own home. Once they have to chase the ball they tire very quickly. That’s why we should beat Wigan tonight, they are a ball playing side and that suits us down to the ground. We wont be kicked from pillar to post and and we are the masters of keeping ball and passing not Wigan.

  9. rico says:

    all a matter of opinion madgunner ;)

    i personally think that tonight will be a tough one, not just because of who we face…

    No Kos and prob no Gibbs either….

  10. Scott From Oz says:

    I’m having a bit each way.
    I agree with what Madgunner says,except that you underestimate Wigan,imo.
    Yes,we are better,and yes,we should win,but as I keep saying to our stats man,football is played on the field.
    I can’t wait for kickoff.

  11. devilgunner says:

    When the kick off whistle blows……all the stats, previous form and league table go out of the window. Its how you perform on the day which counts. As Scott says……..football is played on the field.

  12. Scott From Oz says:

    Djourou always goes well alongside Vermaelen.
    I like Gibbs,but I also like Santos.
    We will get the win.
    That’s not complacency,just confidence.
    3-0 to the good guys.

  13. rico says:

    But we are much better than Qpr, much much better, but when a side is fighting for it’s PL survival they give a little more, added to that, we have history of naffing games like this one up….

    If the players think along the lines that tonight is going to be a breeze, we fans could be left feeling very disappointed….

  14. devilgunner says:

    I have noticed that too Ozzy. Djourou plays better with TommyV than with Kozzer. Its just mental I know but that is how it goes. For example Kozzer performs better with BFG. So it might be that we keep the four of them and get Vertonghen so that he can help in defensive midfield. But I feel if we get M’vila, Verts will not be coming.

    I also happen to like Santos and Gibbs. And we need both of them to stay fit so that we have different options.

  15. UpTheArse says:

    I like Martinez, he always talks well of Arsenal and for the most part speaks sense. His teams play the game the way it should be played, hopefully they turn up tonight to play their normal game, I think if they do and don’t put 11 behind the ball we should be able to pick them off.

  16. UpTheArse says:

    Pardon my manners, Morning all!!!

  17. rico says:

    Agree devil, that’s why our side need to start well, and give all they have got…..

  18. Scott From Oz says:

    Rico,Wigan aren’t a side to sit back and do nothing,they come to play.
    They’re a football side,managed by a footballing manager.
    Yes,we will beat them,but gee,I hope they survive.

  19. UpTheArse says:

    Agreed Scott, I hope they stay up.

  20. rico says:

    Morning UTA…

  21. UpTheArse says:

    Benayoun to start again tonight? Or the Ox going to get a run?

  22. rico says:

    that could be their downfall Scott ;)

  23. rico says:

    Benny Uta…

  24. madgunner says:

    QPR does not play passing football like Arsenal. That is why, on a off day, we so often loose to those sides. on the other hand when we have a focused and well prepared team we do not loose to those teams bar an refereeing blunder or a moment of madness from one of our players. i’m am not half as worried about Wigan at home as I am about Stoke away, that will be our real test in the remaining games, not Chelsea.

  25. rico says:

    If we focus for every game left, we are good enough to beat them all…

    It’s in the mind ;)

  26. allezkev says:


  27. allezkev says:

    Morning Gooners.
    Morning Rico, vgd post

  28. allezkev says:

    Wigan are a very dangerous team.
    If they had a half~decent striker they would be in the top half of the table.

  29. allezkev says:

    Underestimate anyone in the EPL and you risk getting your arse kicked.
    ManUre were complacent and look what happened to them.
    Treat every opponant in the EPL with respect and you’ll be ok.
    We won’t take Wigan lightly and for that i am glad.

  30. rico says:

    Morning AK :)

    Who is this Diaby you mention….

  31. allezkev says:

    Benny to start tonight.
    He cannot play against the Chavs so no point in resting him.
    At this stage of the season you need experience on the pitch.

  32. Scott From Oz says:

    The QPR loss came at the perfect time.
    7 in a row,just before Citeh,the wake up call the boys needed.
    Sometimes a loss is much more valuable to a side than a win.
    I thought we would beat them,I was very disapoointed at the time,but mainly because of the top 4 fight.
    Ok,other results helped us,but we have proven for most of the season that we are good enough to take advantage,and no matter what the narks say,it doesn’t matter a bit when other sides drop points if you’re not racking up the wins!
    Should we look back at when we won leagues and make the same claim…..we won because other teams dropped points????
    It’s kind of stating the obvious!!!!!

  33. allezkev says:

    It’s for JM. :-D

  34. rico says:

    We’d better not take them lightly…..

  35. rico says:

    We just got to make sure we drop the least from now in Scott..

    AK :lol: re diaby

  36. Rokabox says:

    Martinez is the next Arsenal manager!?
    beware of victor moses,
    narrow win me think 2/1.

    morning all,

  37. Scott From Oz says:

    Maximum points from here on in,Rico.

  38. rico says:

    Hi Rokabox,

    not only Moses….. i think they have a few we need to be wary of…

  39. Scott From Oz says:

    Rokabox,its bloody hard for managers used to handling struggling sides to suddenly be in control of a top club.
    Different pressures come to the fore,and most fail.
    Martinez does seem to be a guy who is extremely comfortable under pressure,and his football philosophy is Arsenal all over.

  40. rockyrocastle07 says:

    afternoon all

    AK, I do look forward to your “Diaby” posts!!

  41. Scott From Oz says:

    AK,Diaby was cutting up the oranges for half time,but misfortune came to the forth….again.
    Nobodies really sure of the projected injury layoff for orange juice in the eyes,but the medical team are confident he will be back for the next African Cup Of Nations.

  42. rico says:

    Ditto Scott, no more silly slip ups…

    sorry, my doorbell rang ;)

  43. rico says:

    Afternoon rocky…

  44. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Afternoon Rico! How do?

  45. rico says:

    Not so bad thanks rocky, looking forward to ko…. Will you be home in time to watch? How’s life back at work :(

  46. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Not sure – Not looking good at the mo. Lot of stuff left for me to do, and a lot of stuff done wrong while I was away. Brilliant. I expect I’ll catch the match on BBC’s live scores website on my phone while travelling home!

  47. Scott From Oz says:

    Off for a sleep…catch you all for kick off.

  48. rockyrocastle07 says:

    night Scott. Speak to you in a few hours (provided I get my butt home in time!)

  49. rico says:

    How rude of your colleagues rocky!!

    Hoep you set your planner ;)

    Nighty Scott….

  50. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Very rude Rico…. But it was expected!

  51. Micko says:

    Afternoon all,
    Someone tell Scott that Diaby is French.
    They don’t come much more straight forward than wigan tonight, an easy home win.

  52. rico says:

    hope you get your own back rocky!

    Afternoon Micko, french what ;)

  53. rico says:

    Off for an hour, back later….

  54. Micko says:

    Malade, at least I think that’s french for a sick duck.

  55. Adam says:

    Afternoon all. Looking forward to the game tonight. I rather hoped that the QPR debacle came at the right time. Tonight will show if it did.

  56. Merlin96 says:

    Nope, did not like their attitude after leading 2-0 at Wolves (like leading 2-0 against Villa)..never learn their lesson against complacency…….with Wenegr fielding the worng team with an eye for Saturday match against CHelski.

    At best, a draw..at worst we lose.

    I see a 0-0 or 1-1 draw…..with us huffing and puffing tryign to break ‘em down…….with WIgan closing us down rapidly liek what QPR did to us.

    Can be 1-1 as showboating will cost us dear.

    Scpring early will be our downfall.
    If it is stil scoreless till 80th minute, we will sneak a 1-0 win like we usually did….waking up after 80th minute and play with urgency to win against a lower rnaking team.

    Question is:
    WIll those players up for this game?

  57. Adam says:

    Sorry I asked.

  58. Micko says:

    Merlin, if we lose tonight I’ll change my name to Shirley, it ain’t gonna happen.

  59. Lee says:

    On sale now at white hart lane, ” tottenham viagra” for when all you can reach is a semi……

  60. Micko says:

    Looks like Fabrice Muamba will be putting his feet up in front of the box tonight watching the game, good news all round.

  61. alanbstardmp says:

    Looks like RvP will lose his top scorer position with Rooney 2 goals behind

  62. rico says:

    Evening guys and gals….

  63. rico says:

    :lol: lee, you home now?

    feeling confident then merlin ;)

  64. Adam says:

    I was confident RIco but I realise now that it is a forlorn hope. I don’t think I’ll bother to go now if a draw is all I can hope to see.

  65. rico says:

    Hi Adam,

    Don’t blame, what would be the point, all that effort to see a bore draw, i’d stay at home and watch coronation street…

  66. rico says:

    alan, why do you think rooney will overtake rvp, our captain could easily score another dozen this season :)

  67. rico says:

    Rooney is 3 behind RvP by the way ;)

  68. Adam says:

    Rico. I recorded the last season of Benidorm after your recommendation. I think I’ll watch that as well as BGT re-runs.

  69. stevepalmer1 says:

    Evening all, nice one Rico,
    Wigan had an extra man in midfield against Utd although rednose changed it at half time, Wigan had their tails up by then and was unlucky not to have had more goals in my opinion they were robbed but it was against United and the rulebook goes out the window when United play. I believe your right Rico when you say this is not one to take lightly, wigan played some nice football and outplayed United on the day, i would say an early goal would help settle us but they may just take their foot off the gas, we have to be focussed and brutal if we do get an early one press and keep on pressing, as i don’t want to see us playing 20 passes to get out of our own half and if JD is in keep it away from him.

  70. rico says:

    Did you enjoy it Adam?? Its quite funny if ‘you’ take it for what it is… ;)

  71. rico says:

    Evening Steve,

    pretty much agree there, we certainly need to get out of the blocks early and get a quick goal, push wigan out more and go for the jugular..

    we beat ten man wolves last time, now we need to beat the eleven of wigan but, as long as the team have the right focus…..

  72. allezkev says:

    Merlin can say what he likes.
    I’m on my 2nd pint and ready to rock and roll at The Grove.
    COYG… :-D

  73. allezkev says:

    Alan MP.
    The Doctor prescribes 4 pints of 4X and then you’ll become an AKB again…. :-D. :-D. :-D

  74. rico says:

    Hi AK, i forgot didn’t i, you are heading off to watch the boys :)

  75. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Evening all

  76. rico says:

    4X AK – what ever happened to Tooheys ;)

  77. rico says:

    evening rocky

  78. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Toohey’s is more like piss than 4X! What happened to Calders… That’s what I wanna know…..

  79. rico says:

    remember the advert though rocky, ‘i feel like a toohey’s, very catchy ;)

  80. rockyrocastle07 says:

    It sure was. Not a touch on the old 4X “looks like we overdid it with the sherry” ads!!

  81. rockyrocastle07 says:

    But to be honest, as a non-drinker, I really am not that fussed what happened to any of them!! What happened to the soft drink Quatro?! That’s what I REALLY wanna know….

  82. allezkev says:

    Any ‘Amber Necter’ will do Rico.
    As long as it’s an Aussie beer.
    Where’s Lucky Scott?

  83. rico says:

    Quatro had a short life span, i’d rather water ;)

  84. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Water may b te source of life… boring as sin though!!

    Is Scott even awake yet?

  85. rico says:

    You have to be kidding AK, Oz beer is shocking ;)

  86. rico says:

    off to eat, back in a bit….

    carbonated and naturally flavoured make it better though rocky ;)

  87. rockyrocastle07 says:

    naturally flavoured with Ribena, maybe!! Catch you later when i get home.

  88. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Right, I’m off to try and find a newsagent still open round here that sells the new Panini Euro 2012 sticker album. I may be 34 and should know better, but I still like collecting stickers from major tourno’s! Hope to catch you later, gang.

  89. devilgunner says:

    Evening mates.

    I am back from a training session………and today we had the Dippers community coaches running the rule and showing us a training session. TBH I WAS NOT IMPRESSED AT ALL. I just told one of them that I have my own syllabus which I do at the start of the year and then adhere to the objectives. I showed them my session plan half an hour before the session. One of them asked me whether I plan sessions for long balls. LONG BALLS. I nearly laughed in his face. I told him that I play my football on the ground not in air with helium filled balls.

    The downside of it……there are two. One is that I had a telling off from the headcoach and the other is that I have to sit for that crap again next wednesday. :(

  90. allezkev says:

    An Aussie beer for AlanMP
    Kroenenberg for me…
    Panini Rocky..! I like them toasted.. :-)

  91. devilgunner says:

    Hiya Sir AK. how are you mate?

  92. devilgunner says:

    Arsenal: Szczesny, Sagna, Djourou, Vermaelen, Andre Santos, Song, Arteta, Walcott, Rosicky, Benayoun, van Persie. Subs: Fabianski, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ramsey, Squillaci, Gervinho, Gibbs, Chamakh.

  93. rockyrocastle07 says:

    I could murder a chicken, cheese and bacon Panini now AK….. Enjoy the match! Sunk many more pints??

  94. devilgunner says:

    Hiya Rock. how are you mate

  95. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Evening mate. I’m pretty good thanks. You?

  96. devilgunner says:

    I am ok. a bit bored today. we had the dippers community coaches and tbh I was underwhelmed with what they had to offer.

  97. rico says:

    Boo, you ready for this :)

    The boys better be….

  98. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Haha! Yeah, I read your post dev. Not surprised they are doing so bad!

    Nearly ready Rico… Should be home for the start of the second half

  99. Joaquim Moreira says:

    afternoon all
    Can Benayoun play versus Chelsea next saturday?
    No surprises in the line up.
    Rocky, do you collect the Euro 2012 stickers from Panini?

  100. rico says:

    Gary Neville is so so so loving the RvP and Theo partnership, but he, like most worries about Santos….

  101. rico says:

    good rocky, now get out the office and on that tube ;)

    Hi JM, no, under the loan rules :(

  102. rico says:

    wigan playing 3 in defence :eek:

  103. Joaquim Moreira says:

    yes, so he must play today with no restrictions.
    I’m watching the Tv now :-)

  104. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Evening JM. I don’t think Benny can play against Chelsea.

    I’ve just this second bought the sticker album! I wanted to buy 20 packs of stickers to go with it but they ran out.

  105. rico says:

    Great news re fabrice – he’s been released from hospital today :)

    So has Trevor Francis…. :)

  106. rockyrocastle07 says:

    On the train Rico. Not the one I need, so will have to change and wait for another one later down the line. Then I have a half hour walk. Gutted.

  107. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Has Scott surfaced yet?!

  108. devilgunner says:

    If the dippers of today are a product of yesterday’s academy training then it all counts up. We had crosses from dead ball and shooting or heading volleys from them. Then I went to do my session and it was tippy tappy passing from the back with one or two touch passing. No high crosses in the box but mid-height passing or crossing and player movement. One of them asked me whether I do long ball and I ripped up with laughter.

    Needless to say I got a telling off from the head coach for showing a lack of respect and not doing their session. I told him I have a duty to the boys to teach them the correct way football should be played.

  109. rockyrocastle07 says:

    spot on dev.

  110. rico says:

    Great header Yossi, so close….

  111. DutchGooner10 says:

    Evenings Gooner familia,


    Hope our one arm bandit is okay. Rico ;)

  112. rico says:

    1-0 Wigan :(

    rocky :(

    Arteta is injured, he’s finished for the night i think

  113. rico says:

    Hi DG, not so good now Wigan have gone 1-0 up….

  114. Scott From Oz says:

    I’m up just on time…..lovely!!!
    Micko,I know Diaby is French…..that post was a bit on the sarcastic side lol.
    Morning all.

  115. rico says:

    2-0 FECK!!

  116. devilgunner says:

    …and we go behind. From our corner they do their first attack and they score on the break.

    bollox its 0-2

  117. rico says:

    What did i say about turning up????

    Only one team has, and they aren';t playing in red!!

  118. rico says:

    Arteta off, Ramsey off….

    That is not good news!

  119. DutchGooner10 says:


    Come on Arsenal!! Knife between the teeth.

    Rico 2 coins lost in the slot machine. :(

  120. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Are you shitting me?? 2-0 down? Pathetic. COYG! we can still demolish these bums.

  121. rico says:

    Indeed DG :(

    No rocky, we have started badly, really badly….

    Just starting to settle a bit….

  122. Scott From Oz says:


  123. DutchGooner10 says:

    We been here before with the scum nothing lost peeps.

  124. rico says:

    Wigan aren’t going to slack though, they want these points….

  125. rico says:

    great save by the wigan keeper…. yossi header

  126. Scott From Oz says:

    Sensational save from Yossis header.

  127. devilgunner says:

    Wonderful save by Habsi…….we will be playing against him tonight

  128. rico says:

    DG, wigan look a bit different to the swampies on that day………..

  129. rockyrocastle07 says:

    So did the Spuds Rico…..

  130. rico says:

    i know rocky, but wigan are playing, they are playing well too… we need a goal very soon…

  131. Scott From Oz says:

    We need to peg one back before halftime.

  132. rico says:

    next 20 mins and not concede scott….

  133. devilgunner says:

    Today we will not win. I do not think we will score.

  134. Micko says:

    What the fluck is going on here !

    Scott, just keeping you on your toes.

  135. Scott From Oz says:

    Why wait twenty Rico lol.
    Go TV5…. The man.

  136. DutchGooner10 says:

    Arsenal defence parted like…er…something red and wet??


  137. devilgunner says:

    erm….who is that idiot who said that we will not score?????? ;)

  138. devilgunner says:

    I doubt we will get another though. it was just luck

  139. rico says:

    get in tv :)

  140. devilgunner says:

    Oyyyyyyyyy Djourou, you cannot shoot from there….Wenger’s orders.

  141. Scott From Oz says:

    Not a bite on the orange juice though Micko lol.
    I thought my prediction of a 3-0 win was looking stupid,thank goodness Merlins spreadsheet went for 0-0 or 1-1 result!!!
    Bloody statistics.

  142. rico says:

    Fack, that should have been 2-2

    and JD was unlucky just now…

  143. devilgunner says:

    Look out Ozzy. That Shot by TR07 nearly hit your head in Oz.

  144. Scott From Oz says:

    Devil,tell us we won’t score again!!!!!

  145. rockyrocastle07 says:

    You’re never going to leave Merlins stats alone are you mate!

  146. devilgunner says:


  147. Scott From Oz says:

    Mate,it sailed over my house.

  148. Micko says:

    Very unusual to be attacking the North Bank in the 1st half of a premier league game, maybe Wigan are looking to get any advantage they can tonight and its working so far.

  149. Scott From Oz says:

    Rocky,only when he stops whinging about everything Arsenal,and concedes the game is played on the park.
    He could come up with a stat to show how Wigan were always going to lead 2-0,because you can use and manipulate facts and figure to say what you want them to.
    Stats are useful AFTER a game.

  150. DutchGooner10 says:

    I think the first 10 minutes were our contribution to the nationwide social campaign: Real man get raped!!

  151. rockyrocastle07 says:

    I know what you’re saying mate. Stats do make very interesting reading though…. But, I agree that they count for fuck all. Only stat that means anything is the scoreline.

  152. devilgunner says:

    …and here is the shot by TR07……

  153. rockyrocastle07 says:

    So beautifully worded DG…….!!

  154. devilgunner says:

    Is Ramsey there today???? havent seen him yet???

  155. rico says:

    this ref is giving wigan everything :(

  156. rico says:

    devil, he is poor :(

  157. Scott From Oz says:

    Devil Ramseys going well atm.

  158. rico says:

    hoorah, an arsenal free kick ;)

  159. devilgunner says:

    Hmmmm….just noticed that he is dropping back allowing Songinho to be well Songinho.

  160. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Dev, Rambo’s going to continue to be anonymous until he pops up in the 89th minute with the winner, and then tomorrow we’ll all have massive hard-ons for him!! (apologies for that unnecessary image, Rico…..!!)

  161. rico says:

    wigan time wasting already, why???

  162. devilgunner says:

    And we fuck another free kick. Cant we be creative, innovative and imaginative???? With those damn freekicks???

  163. Scott From Oz says:

    He’s been cleaned up 4 times and got one freekick…….another Welshman would have all four,plus a few thrown in for luck.
    You’re being harsh on Ramsey guys,you really are.

  164. rico says:

    :lol: devil, that doesn’t need an apology

  165. rico says:

    Sloppy Song!

  166. rico says:

    just wish he’d be a bit more dynamic scott, not slating him though, couldn’t have been an easy game to come on, second half he’ll get stronger….

  167. DutchGooner10 says:

    Moehahahahaha Devil All happy bunny with his frozen cream horn biscuit. Robbed of his desire to quench the heat.

  168. Scott From Oz says:

    Rico is all flustered with that hard on comment .
    Rocky,Devil……let’s blame AK,he’s not here lol.

  169. devilgunner says:

    EHHHHHHHHHHHHh???? what apology??? that’s RR07 who mentioned apology.

    Ozzy I was not being harsh. just did not notice that he is sitting back.

    hmmmmm 1-2 before half time. We need to score and equalise pretty soon after the restart otherwise we will suffer.

  170. rico says:

    Someone earlier suggested that wigan will chase us and get tired, anyone think that will still happen??

  171. DutchGooner10 says:

    Just for Scotty; Arsenal have had 14 attempts on goal in that half, Wigan 9!

    Those of you in the cheaper seats clap your hands, those of you in the more expensive ones rattle your jewelry.

  172. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Sounds good to me Scott!!

  173. Scott From Oz says:

    Just read Fabrice has been released from hospital.
    Apparently,and you may have already known,his heart actually stopped for 78 minutes…..that’s just incredible,and a credit to all those involved in saving his life.
    Great news.

  174. rico says:

    thats shocking DG, 14 attempts and just one goal….

  175. devilgunner says:

    Let’s make it Scott+Ozzy=SCOZZY. :lol:

  176. Lee says:

    Wtf was that first half….

  177. Scott From Oz says:

    Well said Dutch.
    Rocky,I think all AK’s future comments should go through moderation,as the crass nature of them is in poor taste.

  178. Joaquim Moreira says:

    brrrr…. many players at the some area on the midfield. Walcott isn’t in thr game. We must have a astriker for the left side. Come in Gervinho.

  179. rico says:

    first ten mins lee…. it all started when arteta got injured, he was down, yossi was shouting to the bench and then, he couldn’t get back quick enough to stop the goal….

  180. DutchGooner10 says:

    Rico Devil said it: We will be playing the goalie tonight. He had a superb save on yossie’s header.

  181. Scott From Oz says:

    Devil,don’t bloody confuse me.

  182. rico says:


    rico says:
    April 16, 2012 at 7:57 pm (Edit)

    Great news re fabrice – he’s been released from hospital today :)

    So has Trevor Francis…. :)
    :lol: :lol:

  183. devilgunner says:

    But we are playing better than we played against QPR. Much better.

  184. Joaquim Moreira says:

    rocky: I had the stick album yesterday in my hands.

  185. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Right gang, just starting my stroll home. Catch you on the other side;

  186. Micko says:

    Ahem rico, re.4.16.

  187. devilgunner says:

    Erm Scozzy…..what is confusing you????

  188. Joaquim Moreira says:

    why Arteta was on the pitch injury? was a big hole int he midfield!

  189. Micko says:

    Rocky, crack open a cold fizzy Tizer when you get home.

  190. rico says:

    :oops: :oops: Micko

  191. Scott From Oz says:

    Rico,I am a million k’s away,and it is 6 am,be kind lol.
    Anyway scoop,it is great to hear.

  192. rico says:

    :lol: Scott

    i goofed too, Micko posted it hours ago….

  193. Scott From Oz says:

    Onya Devil.

  194. rico says:

    we have started this half better….

  195. rockyrocastle07 says:

    Mmmmmmm….. Tizer….

  196. Micko says:

    After watching that 1st half I bet kev is well and truly sloshed, tomorrows post will be a right laugh.

  197. devilgunner says:

    Theo is not there today.

  198. Scott From Oz says:

    Theo who???

  199. alanbstardmp says:

    hi Rico I just think Man U is is better orm scoring more and there is every chance Rooney will pip RvP at the post

  200. rico says:

    why cannot i warm towards santos??

  201. rico says:

    hi alan, i thought you meant he would get more penalties ;)

  202. devilgunner says:

    How the feck do we expect to go through the centre each time??? They are overcrowding RVP. We need to go around them on the left. Theo is cutting inside or his crosses are crap. So we need to go from the left. At least try it once.

  203. alanbstardmp says:

    LOL Rico that may well be :D

  204. Scott From Oz says:

    Rick,you don’t discriminate,you hate EVERYONE lol.

  205. DutchGooner10 says:

    AW a sub on 60 will do. Thank you.

  206. devilgunner says:

    I would sub Theo and put Gibbs on at left back. Push Santos on the left and Benny on the right.

  207. Scott From Oz says:

    Oh,I forgot about Theo….

  208. rico says:

    who is Rick?? ;)

  209. devilgunner says:

    Theo has gone on the left now

  210. rico says:

    devil, i wouldn’t ;)

  211. devilgunner says:

    Oyyyy mates…..dont you think that Martinez looks like a young George Graham???

  212. rico says:

    lucky lucky us….

  213. rico says:

    no devil….

  214. Scott From Oz says:

    Earn your pay.

  215. rico says:

    Gerv on for Yossi….

  216. devilgunner says:

    Y Benny?????? He was playing well.

  217. rico says:

    this doesn’t look good for either player :(

  218. Scott From Oz says:

    I want the Ox on,and with time left on the clock.

  219. devilgunner says:

    I wonder if that clash of heads has managed to loosen the tight screws in Theo’s head.

  220. rico says:

    phew, both up and playing….

  221. rico says:

    it was sagna, not theo

  222. alanbstardmp says:

    why is Santos playing after being out for so long. It;s near season’s end, and why was Arteta repkaced?

  223. alanbstardmp says:


  224. devilgunner says:

    Be honest mates. we lost 1-2 vs QPR. We are loosing 1-2 today. in which game our play has been better?? Imo we are a lot better today.

  225. Scott From Oz says:

    Devil,the last pass is killing us.

  226. Joaquim Moreira says:

    Ramsey plays with a different speed of the ours . Ramsey out!

  227. alanbstardmp says:

    ok thanks Scott

  228. Scott From Oz says:

    Ox on,Djourou off???

  229. rico says:

    come on boys…..

  230. alanbstardmp says:

    9 corners. Oh for a Delap working with Per!

    The Ox on. A bit late as usual. Thanks AW

  231. Scott From Oz says:

    Joaquim you’ve been voted off the island for showing no originality.
    If you Ramsey is poor today,and worth singling out,you are bloody kidding yourself.
    Don’t know why some of you get a bee in your bonnet about one player and ignore everything else going on.
    Say something different,just ONE TIME,please.
    Theo has done nothing at all,yet to give us the same old crap you always do

  232. devilgunner says:

    Arsenal offered £1m for Moses when he was at Crystal Palace. Compare that to the money Wenger spent on a certain Theo Walcott!

  233. rico says:

    i just don’t see us scoring guys :(

  234. Scott From Oz says:

    Lacking creativity in the midfield.
    Bloody Ramsey,its all his fault.

  235. rico says:

    that is a disgraceful decision, theo was through and that was a deliberate foul!!

  236. Scott From Oz says:

    It was definitely a foul,but boy,he was pushed off it easily.

  237. rico says:

    I’m off guys, pissed off to say the least…

    Til tomorrow……….

  238. devilgunner says:

    I told you we will not score again Rico!!! today its a loss!!! end of

  239. alanbstardmp says:

    Aguero would be good to have

    We should have thrown everything at Wigan. God they are fruity boys. Regardless of the things they do well, you can’t rely on them in the trenches. They run hot or cold

  240. alanbstardmp says:

    we need to be set up better for set pieces, but that idiot AW is in the record as not preferring them

  241. alanbstardmp says:

    Talksport say Theo a bit of a lightweight to have that affect him

  242. Scott From Oz says:

    Very disappointing fame.
    Two soft goals…missed Kozzer….then lacked creativity….missed Arteta…..
    Still,plenty of chances were had,and stuffed up.
    Alan,we scored off a set play mate,so leave that alone!!!

  243. alanbstardmp says:

    Wigan allowed to time waste all day allegedly. That does not explain the 2 quick goals Wigan got.

    Crowd booing..whom I don’t know

    Wenger out!

  244. Joaquim Moreira says:

    Without Arteta we didn’t win a game. It’s the statitistic

  245. Joaquim Moreira says:

    we didn’t have an opportunity in the seconfd half1
    We played in a very confusing way

  246. Scott From Oz says:

    Set play my arse….lol.
    Nah,I agree with you on that issue,and not sure why Wenger isnt more serious about them.
    Ramseys to blame though.
    And the board lol.

  247. Steve says:

    I knew it would be a bad night – Andre Marriner in the middle and that bitter cnut Niall Quin on Sky !

  248. alanbstardmp says:

    so we got a set piece goal. Good. Ramsey is a lightweight

    Just unreliable.

  249. Scott From Oz says:

    Joaquin,I agree with you there.
    When a side shuts down,we flood the middle,and RVP becomes totally ineffective.
    Then,the little fancy passes and chips cone in to play,which are useless with 20 players in the box.
    Keep it simple,and give our forwards space.

  250. alanbstardmp says:

    Scott yes that tippy tappy football is shite

  251. Scott From Oz says:

    It’s just popular to blame Ramsey,but boring.
    He did nothing wrong today.
    Theo fell over when through…fouled,yes,fell,yes.
    Vermaelen was poor in defence,great going forward.
    Szczesney lost the ball for the second goal.
    RVP did little.
    Nah,its even Ramseys fault we lost the coin toss.
    Be original guys,please.

  252. DutchGooner10 says:

    I am ready to smash my furniture. Really feel hulky, mean and green. History repeated. We blown another chance to build a table lead on our direct rivals. I don’t wanna hear any hullabaloo about “We turned a corner”. Try selling that to a child with a lollipop. Ain’t sucking that no more to prove me the team understands it’s responsibility.

  253. W.A.T.H says:

    We didn’t get a set piece goal at all the goal was from open play Rosicky crossed for TV to head in…!

    Piss poor second half no width no tempo trying to play the ball through the eye of a needle in a packed penalty box…… no one taking on the full back to get crosses in from wide and their keeper didn’t make a save 2nd half…! Lets hope Arteta is fit for sat don’t think so the fact he went off so quick… Santos was awful theo was awful and Sagna got roasted 2nite…! Half time i thought we’d come out and batter them but we may as well of stayed in the dressing room…! Thats put a smile on the yids faces now…!

  254. W.A.T.H says:

    Ramsey looks like he’s got no confidence what so ever, wenger should not of put him on for Arteta as it played into wigans hands of congesting the middle… Ramset wasn’t shit he just aint playing well but what the fuck does Gervinho do when he comes on…. doesnt even attack the full back either…!! Far to many questions !!

  255. Steve says:

    As we seem to do every season we have again slipped up against the relegation fodder. As always with this manager we never seem to learn from our mistakes.

  256. W.A.T.H says:

    The manager ain’t on the pitch Steve but thats where the mentality comes from for sure… why were none of the players trying to get the others to play at a higher tempo 2nd half… No urgency…! thats how we played when 2 up against wolves…!

  257. DutchGooner10 says:


    “Turned a corner” belongs to navigation software. Ninety percent of the game is half mental. You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take.

  258. Steve says:

    We are far too lazy in too many matches – that’s got to be the manager’s responsibility.

  259. DutchGooner10 says:

    You and me WATH see eye to eye. Totally agree.

  260. W.A.T.H says:

    It all comes from having the right mentality and attitude for me Steve and that must come from the Boss….! They shouldof got a kick in the bollox at half time at Wolves for pissing about and taking it easy yet so many said its ok we were winning…! thats a piss poor attitude in my book.

  261. Scott From Oz says:

    Wath,I suggest you go back and read my next post mate.
    I knew Alan missed the goal,and was winding him up.
    Dutch,I agree,we are still to hesitant to shoot.
    Are players intimidated by RVP’s goalscorong this season.
    Id better not shoot and miss if RVP’s open…….
    Not RVP’a fault at all,but it could be an issue.
    I definitely think its the case with Gervinho.

  262. W.A.T.H says:

    Piss poor from RVP at the end as well, shake the blokes hand and then go have the hump with your team mates not the opposition just cos your sulking…!

  263. DutchGooner10 says:

    Try not to become a man of success, but rather, try to become a man of value. Value for money that is. Manager and players alike!!

  264. W.A.T.H says:

    Can’t be arsed reading three hours back Scott thought ABMP had got the wrong info simples……….

    Gervinho looks scared of his own shadow… he ain’t been Vegas with chamakh has he..??

  265. W.A.T.H says:

    It’s a shame a few more didnt put in the effort that TR7 did 2nite… yes that would be you Theo…!

  266. W.A.T.H says:

    I blame AK for being there and Ramsey for being on the pitch and Merlin for being a magician…! That just about covers the blame game then………..

  267. DutchGooner10 says:

    I’m going horizontal mates. Night WATH,Steve,Scott,JM,Alan.

  268. W.A.T.H says:

    Wengers gotta be taking the piss…. we lacked hunger and combined with fatigue…??? is he having a f’kin laugh…? fatigue…? they ain’t played for a week…! As for the hunger comment on 7million a year should he not be looking in the mirror and asking why his team lacks hunger..?
    Also looks not good with the Arteta injury…! Just what we fuckin needed…!

  269. W.A.T.H says:

    Cheers DG, sleep tight fella…!

  270. Scott From Oz says:

    Wath,luckily Diaby can cpme on and replace Arteta lol.
    Ok,no need to read back in the goal,just letting you know.

  271. W.A.T.H says:

    Oh fuck I forgot about him…………. All’s well then we got Diaby who can play on Sat… for about ten mins of course then he’ll be off again..!
    AK will be pleased…!

  272. Merlin96 says:

    Micko says:

    April 16, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    Merlin, if we lose tonight I’ll change my name to Shirley, it ain’t gonna happen.

    Micko, I can’t take emotional roller-coaster ride no more.
    I prefer to prepare for teh worse and hope for the best.
    In this way, I wouldn’t feel so down when being let down [again] by those inconsistent youngsters.

    Wigan came to play us with their tails up…and with a decent manager in Martinez and watching umteen tapes and DVD on teams that had beaten us….he knew he had a chance against Arsneal if he played continual high pressurised and pacy football, hsi defence never giving our players the chance to settle down and control at firts touch, closing Arsenal players down isnatntly, by fair or foul means, stopped them from passing ‘em or passing the ball.

    In the meantime, use a pacy winger liek Moss to attack our vulnerbale flanks…..(dont’ we ever elarned from SInclair – Swansea – and Traabt – QPR?)

    And of course, never sit back against Arsenal as you always have a decent chance of winning when you attack Artsenal….and 10 league game losses proved that.


    This is my prediction in one forum playing Prediction League:

    My predicitons were:
    Arsenal 0 Abu Dhabi CIty 6
    Arsenal 1 Wigan 2
    Arsenal 0 CHelski 6

    Let’s hope my trend is correct…. :mrgreen:

    We play better away from home nowadays; and only turned up against BIG CLUB.

    Never fear.
    Historically, team with 67/68 points are in 4th spot…provided CHelski will not win CL CUp.

    2 more wins or 1 win 1 draw will confirm 4th spot.
    3rd spot?….plenty to fight for.

    WHy did we lost?
    That f**king 2-0 after 11th minute..and the whole team switched off gave me an inkling of INCONSISTENCY AND TENDENCY TO TURN-UP FOR BIG TEAM ONLY..@#$%^@@

    As I said, look no further than we refusing to acknowledge from August 2011 that we are vulnerable to flank attacks from pacy wingers….with our FB struggling to track-back and contained tehm…or even after 8 months into the season, we still have not found the tactics to solve this “soft underbelly” of our team.

    Di Matteo?
    He is no AVB, he had lifted the morale of the team, motivated senior players to play for him…..and if they get a decent result against Barca…their tails will be up..and we are in a torrid time.

    Seriously, I see us losing 1-3 as Juan Mata is way way better than Moss, Traabt and SInclair……with Drogba and Torres bullying our Back-4.

    We turn up against BIG CLUB…

    But then, we whup WIgan 4-0…and lose 1-2.

    We whup Chelski 5-3…..and….statistically, trend-wise.. :mrgreen:

    If we only look at recent form for the past 10 days…..is CHelski on the “up”…and Arsenal reverted to their “inconsistent” self?

  273. Merlin96 says:

    He is way way better than Ramsey and has the physique and passing skill, plus ball holding skill, to make a difference in MIDFIELD.

    Playing DIaby in lieu of a demoralied and lacking in confidence Ramsey will boost our chance of beating CHelski by a quantum.

  274. W.A.T.H says:

    You’ve missed one thing Merlin the Magician.. Mata isn’t a speedy winger, he’s a great player who pulls the strings he won’t roast the fullback and will they risk playing him..? When Mata plays well the chavs play well he’s the key but what team will they play and if they get a half decent result wednesday they have to try to go for a result at nou camp so the Arsenal game could be just what they don’t want..!.
    We won’t have Arteta but as kindly pointed out by Scott we will have Diaby……….


    Song was crap again tonight playing the stupid balls into the box that chip pass to no one cos the defenders picked it every time…! Back to basics again chaps and high tempo and when we do that we can beat anyone, when we play like tonight it’s as if we think 3rd is sown up already and all we have to do it turn up…! piss poor mentality and not for the first time and unfortunately it won’t be the last either me thinks…!

  275. W.A.T.H says:

    See Jacks been ruled out for the rest of the season as well…!

    Now to keep him out of the Olympics…!

  276. Merlin96 says:

    WATH, Mata has the guile and craft to glide pass our “static” FB.

    It is his play making ability that I fear…..a deep running Lampard to pick up the pieces….Ramires making SOng paid for his absence….and of course, Torres or Drogba is no slouch over the first one or two yards to speed off from our Back-4.

    Chelski may play to their strengthen…attack down out throat thru’ the middle…..with COle and Boswinga stretching our flank.

    Isn’t that the same tactic that Wenger had been using to win games?

  277. W.A.T.H says:

    Sagna had a very average game 2nite Merlin but mata won’t glide past him in my opinion he’s normally very good and one of teh best around but mata’s passing and time allowed on the ball to pick out runners is a problem again depends who they play and will they have an eye on Barca…?

    Koz back will help tighten things up as he reads the game so well and Gibbs over santos please wenger…. Song it seems to depend which Song turns up but with no Arteta Song needs to sit and be more defensive and let others be more attacking…! Theo also needs to turn up after 2nite…! I just fancy us against the chavs… we’ll win and then go and lose to Stoke… you know it’s how we are… Can always rely on Arsenal to be unreliable…!

  278. Scott From Oz says:

    Kozzers back….do nor underestimate the difference he will make.
    Mata played when we spanked them at SB………suddenly he’s a different player???

  279. W.A.T.H says:

    No Scott, Mata was fuckin good then as well….! he’s always been good it isn’t all of a sudden. chavs should of been three up in 15mins there and they missed their chances and we took ours…!

  280. W.A.T.H says:

    We’re gonna miss Arteta big time if he misses the next four games…! Not chuffed about that at all.

  281. alanbstardmp says:

    oh well such is life

  282. Micko says:

    Merlin, I bow to your superior knowledge, Wenger is seriously jarring my brain.
    I’m off to my bunk now, there’s only so much one man can take.

  283. Micko says:

    Alan, it could be worse, you could wake up dead in the morning.

    Nite all.

  284. W.A.T.H says:

    Is that you Micko or Shirley…………????????? :D

  285. Merlin96 says:

    MIcko, not superior knowledge but based on form for the past 10 days….and the tendency of a young team to be inconsistent.

    I am plugging for the fact that the TEAM, and Song inf act, always turend up when playing against BIG CLUB.

    The danger is a rejuvenated CHelski with plenty of raw physicalpower can over-come Arsenal.

    But you will never know and Lady Luck maybe with su again…especially what I suspect an over-physical game against Barca with plenty of cynical over-the-top hard tackling, elbowing, body-check and physical punishment dished out to theirmain danger man in Mata.

    Let’s hope all those over-30 players will be knackered out come lunch-time kick-off on Saturday.

    If we can’t beat or get a result against a physical-drained Chelski – and mentally exhausted as well – then what are we talking about winning the title next season?

    Goodnight all.

  286. W.A.T.H says:

    Cheers Merlin……….!

  287. W.A.T.H says:

    Offski……… When you read this AK your banned from going anymore games u jinx…..!

  288. allezkev says:

    Well i’m not going to the Chelski game Wath… :-)
    And i wasn’t at Old Toilet or QPR.
    In fact, that was the first time i saw them lose in the EPL this season. :-[

  289. allezkev says:

    Gotta give credit to Martinez.
    He sucked us in and mugged us on the break.
    We should have scored twice in the opening 5 mins, but went too gung~ho.
    Our defending was amaturish for Wigan’s first goal.
    The second Wigan goal was a total defensive balls~up.
    RVP was crowded out. Theo was snuffed out. And that was that.
    TR07 should have equalised, but after that we were feeding on scraps.

  290. allezkev says:

    Wenger had no answer to Martinez’s tatics.
    Gervinho came on and just did bugger all.
    Ox had a few runs but Wigan defended really well.
    Sometimes you just have to accept that the other side deserved it and imho Wigan were the better side overall.

  291. allezkev says:

    I just hope we are not in a position of needing to go to West Brom on the last day, needing a win.
    Chelski is now a must win.
    In fact Stoke [a] and Norwich are now must win games.
    Good Old Arsenal. They love to put us through the wringer…

  292. Scott From Oz says:

    Nothings easy AK,not with Arsenal.

  293. rico says:

    New Post up

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