Arsene knows best! It wasn't eight but does that really matter?

The early season thrashing 8-2 thrashing at Old Trafford seems almost a few seasons ago, as much has changed in the succeeding months. We strengthened the squad right before the end of the summer transfer window and steadily climbed the table, to where we finished calendar year 2011 in fourth place.

Since the beginning of the New Year, however, we have hit a wall, coming from ahead to lose at both Fulham and Swansea, and struggling mightily in an unconvincing FA Cup win over Leeds United. Injuries continue to blight us, as Arteta was ruled out for the second straight match, and none of our first team full-backs are returned…

So we welcomed United yesterday, knowing we owed them something!

Our players may have more or less played down the “revenge” angle during the week but surely some of them had to want to pay United back…

We got a bit of a boost in the morning, with the news TV passed a fitness test and would be available. Unfortunately, Thierry did not, meaning he would not figure today…

We lined up Szczesny, TV, Kos, Mert, JD, Song, Ramsey, Rosicky, OC, Robin, and Theo.

Al, Squil, Yennaris, Miquel, Arsh, Benny and Ju were the bench.

Rosicky’s start in Benny’s place was expected, as the latter did not have a good game in his start at the Liberty Stadium last Sunday. OC’s start ahead of Arsh was a bit more surprising, but welcome, considering how out of form Arsh has been for the past several months.

We started four centre-backs ahead of Szczesny, but the inclusion of three defenders (Squil, Yennaris and Miquel) on the bench meant that Arsene intended to try and keep it a bit tighter.

We started the day in fifth place, and thanks to losses for Newcastle and Liverpool yesterday, we would remain in fifth place (barring another heavy defeat). As Spurs lost at Eastlands in the earlier kickoff and Chelsea dropped two points at Carrow Road on Saturday , this was also an opportunity to make up some ground on the second-fourth placed sides.

Since reaching fourth place on the last day of 2011, we have dropped all six league points we played for and are probably a bit fortunate we have not slid any further than one place.

Yesterday was a golden opportunity to make up some ground on three of the four teams ahead of us in the table and put some distance on the chasers. We don’t get chances like this every week.

United kicked the match off but we started quickly. OC needed only a minute to make his presence known, as he robbed Jones and went on a good run, with Evans having to boot the ball clear in his box. We had the better of the first 15 minutes, as OC and Theo switched flanks effectively and used their pace to good effect. Ramsey and Theo both shot too close to Lindegaard.

There were several previous occasions where we started quickly against United, only to peter out and lose the initiative and that happened in this instance.

On 17 minutes, Jones did his ankle and had to be stretchered off, with Rafael taking his place. While we continue to bemoan our injury situation, it’s worth remembering that we are not the only side short hand. United may not have an entire set of full-backs out, but they came into the match missing both Vidic and Ferdinand, so they don’t exactly have full squad to choose from either…

There was always the concern that our flanks would be a problem, and once United started attacking down the sides, they took control.

Both Nani and Evra gave JD massive problems down the right, and Valencia caused TV problems on the other flank. Szczesny had to save from Giggs at the near post, and ten minutes later, he produced a fine close-range save from Nani, after Evra got away from JD once again.

As the half entered the last few minutes, United were on top…

Two of the worst times to concede goals are right before the break, and immediately after scoring one ourselves. The latter scenario resulted in Swansea’s winner last Sunday, and today we conceded the former. In the first (of three) minutes of stoppage time, Giggs crossed from the left, and TV never picked up Valencia, who ran in to meet the ball at the far post, and head past Szczesny. We were stunned by the goal and had no time to build a response, going into the break at 1-0 down.

Arsene rarely makes non-injury enforced changes earlier than the 60th minute, so it was a bit of surprise to see Yennaris replace JD at the break. A difficult spot for the youngster, to be sure but JD was, frankly, dreadful in the first half, and something needed to be done in that area.

Yennaris then went on to perform well, justifying Arsene’s bold decision. Certainly Evra and Nani got far less joy up that side than in the first half.

We kicked the second half off and got an immediate scare and Robin and Valencia collided. Our captain was down for a few minutes and we feared the worst, even as he got up limping. Fortunately, he was able to carry on and showed no ill effects. We started this half much better and fashioned three good chances in the first 15 minutes, the best coming to Robin, who somehow put Rosicky’s excellent pass wide from point-blank range. A bad and potentially costly miss…

But our heads did not drop and we kept up the pressure. Robin then pumped a cross in the box, but neither Ramsey nor Rosicky could convert. Nani then picked Wellbeck out with a cross into our box, but Mert got across quickly to block on the line. OC then collected Kos’ pass and fired past Lindegaard, but also the post.

We had another scare when Szczesny went down injured – losing him meant Al, who had not played a competitive match for us since his horror show at the Hawthorns late last season. Fortunately, Szczesny was able to continue, and we equalized a few minutes later.

Kos got us going, picking Rafael’s pocket on the edge of our area and finding OC with an excellent pass. OC then found Robin, who calmly finished past Lindegaard to bring us level. With 20-odd minutes remaining, surely we could push on for a winner…

Unfortunately, Arsene contributed to our undoing, substituting OC – clearly our best player on the afternoon and showing no signs of discomfort at this point – for Arsh. The move was greeted with boos and chants of “You don’t know what you’re doing” from the home support.

Our Captain was just as mystified by the substitution, staring at the bench in apparent disbelief. It took only seven minutes for our worst fears to materialize. Just before that, we had another injury delay, as Theo went down hard after clashing heads with Lindegaard when trying to prod the ball home…

Fortunately, he was back on his feet within a few minutes…

Worse followed as Arsh allowed Valencia to blow by him, and the latter found Wellbeck who restored United’s lead with no fuss…

Arsene responded by replacing Ramsey with Ju, but latter, not trusted at any point up to here, made no impact…

Nobody really did…There were six minutes of injury time, but we only really pressed during a small portion – Robin came close to equalizing, and Mert got a shot off. On the other end, Wellbeck went clear and should have made it 3-1, but dithered and we were able to clean it up…

The whistle went shortly after, as we slumped to our third home defeat (in all comps) of this season, and dropped our third consecutive league match…

As stated earlier, we remained in fifth place, but that spot is looking precarious at best. Newcastle are level on points and Liverpool only a single point behind. Even more worrying, Stoke and Norwich are only six and seven points behind, respectively. At the rate we have dropped points this season, we could potentially drop out of the top ten soon, unless we get our act together…

It will be nice to have our injured players return, but how many are really close to returning? And how many will require time and match minutes to get themselves to a level in which they can really contribute?

Unfortunately, our problems run much deeper than injuries…

In November and December, only Robin was scoring – then we were winning. Now it is only him scoring and we are losing…

We have not stopped conceding either. As it is, I think Robin’s fantastic form during calendar year 2011 masked the lack of contribution from other key players. He is still scoring roughly a goal a game, but now it is not enough and there isn’t any sign of anyone else stepping up to fill the void.

Goals from midfield were sparse when we were on our fine run, now they are non-existent. Nobody in defence is scoring, and other than Robin, Theo and Benny have chipped in with the odd goal. Otherwise, nothing…

As they say, “It is what it is…” I didn’t expect any additions during this month, and after this defeat, I still don’t. Arsene used his post-match presser to deliver another sermon on how buying players is so difficult, and how it has to be the “right player”, etc…I think most of us reasonable fans get all that.

I would say, however, that our first team squad is loaded with too many of the “wrong player”, and that is where our problems are. We have players that cannot stay fit, players that have been out of form for several months now – dating back to the previous season, and players who have shown they are not particularly good.

No different from most squads, really; except that we continue to persist with most of these players and it greatly restricts our squad options.

A couple of days ago, Arsene contradicted our “chairman” in saying that missing out on the top four would indeed be a disaster; with less than half the season remaining, that is where we are heading.

If we should ultimately finish fifth or below, having waited forever for certain injury-prone players to return from injury, and persisted with others who have given us next to nothing, will he rue not making the extra effort to bring someone else in during this period, or even purchasing someone in the summer to replace an under-performer or two?

Arsene also used the presser to mount a prickly:’

‘I’ve been in  football 30 years and Idon’t have justify my decisions to you’ defence of the substitution.

We’re well aware of his resume but considering that the player he replaced today’s most effective player with was significantly at fault for United’s winning goal, is it really all that unreasonable to question the substitution? After all, our own captain appeared to question it as well…

Of course it’s reasonable to question.

Not everybody who questions a managerial decision wants the manager out. It’s something that comes with the territory – it’s called accountability. If Arsene does not like that, perhaps it’s time for him to go do something else…

Any way you look at it, this was a bad result. It’s our third league loss in a row, our second home loss of the campaign, and a loss where we basically let five teams surrounding us off the hook.

We have Villa in the FA Cup on Sunday, followed by a trip to the Reebok a few days later. So January 2012 will go down as a month in which we lost all our league fixtures – cannot remember when that last happened.

It’s a worrying sign and with no reinforcements set to arrive, we just have to hope we can get some players back quick, and others will wake up and start producing. If we continue as we are, not only will the top four be a massive, uphill struggle, but any European competition for next season will be a battle as well.

It shouldn’t have come to this…

Written by Oliver

195 thoughts on “Arsene knows best! It wasn't eight but does that really matter?

  1. Doublegooner

    January 23, 2012 at 9:14am

    Pickfords for Wenger.

    For him & all his deadwood.

  2. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 9:15am

    Morning all,

    top write up oliver, thanks you and sorry that it’s your last, you will be missed but good luck in all you do…. Hope to see you pop on when you can….

  3. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 9:16am

    Double, that is exactly how i feel this morning…

    Wenger says he know’s best!

    What utter rubbish!!

  4. Matt J

    January 23, 2012 at 9:24am

    Morning Rico…

    Well wenger strikes again… takes off the bestest player we had on the pitch when we was confortable level and puts the clown russian on!! how much faith is wenger going to put on arshavin… clearly doesnt wanna be here and as much as i hate phil neville he put it correctly ‘if he doesnt wanna be here then go back to russia’.. RVP is defo out in the summer and i dont blame him for going.. there is no passion at the club anymore!!

  5. W.A.T.H

    January 23, 2012 at 9:24am

    The arrogance of the man defies belief…….!

    His after match comments are actually a disgrace….! He thinks as a manager he is untouchable always right and cannot be questioned as clearly highlighted with his comments after the game…. Well wenger when “WE” the fans contribute to your 7million pound a year wages your are indeed there to justify to us why you make decisions. Exactly why the gutless board need to be replaced as well as they do not hold wenger accountable or question his decisions hence he is never held responsible….!.

  6. W.A.T.H

    January 23, 2012 at 9:26am

    Apologies, morning all…….!

  7. lee

    January 23, 2012 at 9:28am

    Top write up Oliver!!
    Taxi for AW & board….
    Morning all btw!

  8. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 9:46am

    Hi MJ – it is indeed a joke, and i’ve seen enough…

    RvP to sign a new contract, i wouldn’t if i was him, not unless something drastically changes..

    Half of our players need a kick up the arse and he isn’t the man to do it, i think half the reason they perorm so lacksutre is they too have lost faith in him and his crazy ways….

  9. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 9:51am

    Morning Wath & lee

    Taxi – he’d be too tight, hail the bus more like 😉

    From invincible to ‘untouchable’ Wath – who exactly does he think he is, he has money, money that all have payed our part in him earning it…

    And this is how he repays…. Joke

  10. audu ibrahim

    January 23, 2012 at 9:52am

    Good write up oliver,I am baffle with the manager’s thinking that because he has been in management for 30years the fans shouldn’t question his decision even when it was obvious that he has been making alot of bad decisions of late.

  11. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 9:54am

    Wenger on the substitution of Andrey Arshavin for Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain…

    ‘I can understand that the fans are upset about the substitution, especially when it doesn’t work, but I made the right decision at the start of the game [in starting Oxlade-Chamberlain]. He had started fatigue, stretched his calf and he was sick in the week.

    People pay for their tickets and are free to express their emotions. We have to deal with that, not to dictate behaviour to people’.

    So his defence is he got it right to include him??

    Joke! If Ox was sick and not fit, then he is an idiot to have risked him…..

  12. lee

    January 23, 2012 at 9:56am

    Contradicting bollocks he’s spouting as usual….

  13. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 9:57am

    Ray Parlour:

    ‘Arsenal must get rid of Arshavin’!

    And one or two others Romford…..

  14. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 9:58am

    Hi audu – for a good few years he’s been making the same ones…

    exactly lee… funny too, he didn’t see RvP’s reaction…

  15. stevepalmer1

    January 23, 2012 at 9:58am

    Morning All,
    Oliver do i understand it right that we are loseing your services, i take this news as hard as i took the result yesterday. You will be surely missed good luck to you mate and don’t be a stranger from a big fan.
    I didn’t think i would ever say it but we need a change in management, Wenger has made blunders in the past but he has shown no signs of adding talent at a time that it is perfectly clear we need it. His decision makeing has left me speachless and to persevere with talentless dolts is depressing. The only way we will keep what talent we have is by showing commitment and it is quite evident it will not come with Wenger. Applications Please.

  16. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 10:09am

    Morning Steve..

    The only way forward now is surely change, it’s been too long of silly tactics, sub-standard performances, crazy tactics and substitutions…..

    Sad days….

  17. stevepalmer1

    January 23, 2012 at 10:23am

    Morning Rico, I like to look at it as not sad day’s, but moveing forwards. Wengers time has come and gone, we must look to the future, replace wenger with a manager who is not afraid to buy players and one that can clear out the deadwood we have built up. In my mind our biggest problem is the deadwood, By not moveing these players on we leave ourselves open to useing them in the future, Why pay them if you intend not to use them, that is one reason Wenger must be moved on, He show’s blind faith in players who have shown over and over again that they are incapeable of adding anything to the team and if only for that, he needs to go.

  18. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 10:27am

    Chavs have had a bid for Willian rejected… £16.5 Million….

  19. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 10:28am

    But until all that happens Steve, we will witness the same old, same old….

    Can you see Wenger and the board leaving?

    Or Stan sacking Wenger….?

    Wenger selling the deadwood??

    Neither can i….

  20. stevepalmer1

    January 23, 2012 at 10:35am

    The supporters of Arsenal FC will ultimatly decide Wengers future he will see out the rest of the season as it would not be fair to ask a new man to come in, but supporter pressure which i am sure will come will be overwhelming. Wenger as you say will carry on in the same way and in doing so will carry on getting the same results even a blind board will come to realise that this is not acceptable. The board may back Wenger up to a point but when it hits their pockets this will become unacceptable. Change is coming and it will come soon.

  21. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 10:39am

    Morning guys and chicks of the Gunners’ faith.

    Rico….he would not even hail the bus. He would walk it instead.

    Oliver…….good write up of the game. Pity that its your last and we will surely miss you. I always looked forward to your posts after the game since it was like seeing the game again in themselves.

    W.A.T.H spot on. He thinks he is untouchable and that qualifies him as a disgrace. Soon all that is simmering in the stands and on the internet will all boil down and the time will come when more than 55,000 will be baying for the manager’s head by the end of the season.

    TBH, although I expected it, I still was shocked to read some of the comments on the net on various sites. And never in around 37 years suporting Arsenal have I ever heard supporters chanting like they did yesterday, even during the doom and gloom of the early eighties.

    I have been an avid reader of Arsenal history and most notably I have been impressed by the club being viewed as a leader and showed the way in the 1930’s. I like to think that Arsenal will one day be like that again. However I cannot fathom out how we always go back to being scrooges and happy to stay in the background when we could be proactive and made our mark. Instead of shopping at the highest and best stores we go to flee markets nowadays.

    I agree with Rico (see earlier posts) when she said that we do not need superstars. However we all need 26 honest workers on the pitch with a great motivator on it who is a leader and will never allow second best. yes we might have won two doubles, one unbeaten season, another FACup, but we have also come off second best 12 times with AW. and to say that top four is like a trophy is a joke. I agree that if you do not have the best resources than it is like a trophy, but not when you have the best facilities and the best finances of the premier.

    Yennaris in his 45 minutes looked more solid than JD has done during this season. So why does he not play??? The Ox did more in his first start yesterday than AA+Theo did together during this season alone. So why dont they play?? Ajax Amsterdam do it that way……you are good. You play however young you might be. And if you are 30 years, a senior player but not as good as an up and coming Bergkamp is you will find yourself on the bench. Why cant we???

    All this smacks of something fishy!!!!!! And I stand by that. Even the players themselves are exasperated.

    I am sorry …… but AW must now go. And the board with him.

    If Usmanov is waiting to see how the season unfolds so that share prices drop so that he can buy then I hope we finish 7th or 8th. Short term its horror…..long term it might be a blessing in disguise.

  22. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 10:41am

    Funnily enough, the AKB’s always harp on about the fact that with AW we have always been in the top four. Just would like to point out that with Sir Red Nose, Manure have been in the top three since the last century and even had the cheek to win big ears twice. And how many times have they finished second????

  23. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 10:43am

    I hope you are right Steve, i tend to think Wenger will just not renew his contract and leave..

    The board is gutless, they won’t sack a manager who is saving them money surely?

    My only hope is Gazidis comment was true when he said about the fans voice will decide when/if wenger goes….

    I’d still rather he turned things around in this transfer window but i know deep down he won’t…. Nor will he in the summer…

  24. stevepalmer1

    January 23, 2012 at 10:46am

    Got to go out but as Arnie said i will be back 🙂

  25. Adam

    January 23, 2012 at 10:47am

    Morning all. Wenger, his game plan, substitution and after match drivel were all signs of the downward slope his has set himself upon. Talking about how silly it is to buy a full back for 10 days until our first choices return was nonsensical beyond belief. But, for me, the club’s obvious problems run much deeper than that. We are an old fashioned club, stuck in a lethargic trance and unable to respond to the obvious. Imagine, if Wenger was to leave today. What would happen? How would Kroemke handle it and would the next manager get anything like the fresh start he would need? If Arsenal are to move on I still believe they need a thorough cleansing from top to bottom from a man with the ambition, drive and financial clout to make that happen. I think we all realise that there is no real long-term future under Arsene, despite our high regard for him personally and our respect for what he has done for the club. Giving him a lot of money to spend would be a waste I think. Lee Dixon on MOTD2 last night made a seriously important point when he again highlighted all the well-known shortcomings of recent Wenger sides. And, let’s face it, Arsene is not going to agree with those observations or be remotely interested in doing anything about them now is he? His spiel yesterday was of a man so entrenched in his own reputation and ways that nobody could tell him a thing. And certainly nothing about defending as a unit and making life difficult for opponents when not in possession. Nothing will convince him that Arshavin is not right for Arsenal, or that Song is not Arsenal quality. He will continue to back players like Theo, who was a nice idea that never really worked. He is stuck, the club is stuck and, by definition, so are we. Best case scenario? For me it is that Wenger leaves at the end of the season, probably without securing CL football. Kroenke sells out and walks away with £150 million in his pocket and Usmanov takes over and manages to persuade a progressive and intelligent manager to take over. He allows him to clear out the also-rans and gives him a hefty transfer kitty. Nothing is certain except the fact that we are going nowhere at the moment.

  26. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 10:51am

    Morning devil, top comment…

    What could happen if Wenger was replaced today….

    See Martin oneil at Sunderland and Hughes at QPR, a new boss to play for means your position is no longer taken for granted, players have to prove their worth and a few of ours have a lot more to give and they can…

    But, i think everything has gone stale and its all a bit too easy.

    No pressure for players by squad players….

  27. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 10:52am

    just for the records…..

    Sir Red nose vs Scrooge since season 1996-97

    Sir red nose…

    9 leagues
    2 FA cups
    3 league cups
    6 charity shields
    2 champions league
    1 intercontinental club
    1 fifa world club cup

    Sir Scrooge…

    3 leagues
    4 FAcups
    4 charity shields
    1unbeaten season (a trophy in itself)
    1 stadium (the transition can be said to be a trophy in itself)

    12 times runner up.

    I started during the season 1996/97 because that is when AW came to the club.

    Yes AW was a great manager. But times change. When GG was AFC manager the football and league results from 1992 till he was sacked were total crap. There was no mitivation. And we found out why when it all came to the fore. When he was sacked and Rioch installed the board vowed that never will one man run the show especially the finances. This changed since Dein went.

    I hope that history is not repeating itself again.

  28. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 11:01am

    The thing is that it is so nearly there. We have players like Chesney, Koscielny, Vermaelen, Frimpong, Coquelin, Ramsey, Arteta, OX, Sagna, Jenkinson, Lansbury, Wilshere, RVP all are top quality. We need to weed out the deadwood and get in some honest workers with a never say die attitude. That is all that we ask for. If money is a problem due to the stadium than we are bound to forgive that and accept it. But to put out players who are not up to standard and do want to play is unforgivable.

  29. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 11:08am

    catch you later steve…

  30. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 11:11am

    Hi Adam

    You make a good point, is Arsene Wenger the right person to be given any kitty?

    There was a time that i would have said yes but that was back when we saw him sign:


    Etc etc etc……

    We don’t sign that kind of player anymore….. And that is where it’s going wrong imho….

  31. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 11:22am

    Fergie spends more wisely devil, he isn’t afraid to spend on the right player, and, look how shrewd he was over the Ronaldo sale too – where as we replace players with average and stick with them, fergie doesn’t….

    We are nearly there, thre players with guts and passion would make such a difference…

  32. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 11:26am

    Rico……..We are nearly there, thre players with guts and passion would make such a difference…

    the pity is that AW likes yes men. He doesnt like those who stand up to him. so forget players with guts and passion. Had he preferred those than it would be more yes than no that PV would have been his assistant this year rather than at shitty.

  33. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 11:30am

    I know devil, Pat Rice gets a lot of stick but over the years he has been put in his place and that is no doubt why Wenger persuaded him to stay…

    I can’t see any way forward other than the obvious…

    I’m glad we didn’t get Paddy though, I’d rather a real Gooner, Adams or Keown is my preferred choice, those who can drum into players just what playing for OUR club means….

  34. Adam

    January 23, 2012 at 11:31am

    Agreed Rico. Chelsea and now Man City have changed the footballing landscape with their bottomless pockets. They can afford to buy players that only they can afford because they have so over inflated the market. The structure within our club is wrong but the club must keep moving forward all the time whether by transfer activity, player development or tactical improvements. In my humble opinion we have been going backwards for the past several years despite having some great players at the club. As I have said many time on HH, Wenger has convinced the supporters that our club, with it’s enormous gate receipts and marketing potential, is poor and have to do things another way. The club ask us to pay more and more so they can become better when in fact the opposite is the case. Poor players are being paid a fortune and still not performing, our defence is a complete and utter shambles. I hate to say this but Redknapp has made Wenger look a mug purely with his ability to put a balanced team together, coach them and inspire and motivate them. He bought Pienaar, realised he wasn’t the right player, so never plays him. Wenger bought Arshavin, who peaked after a couple of weeks before starting his slow decline and Wenger replaces our best attacking option with him minutes after he had made a goal with Arshavin, a man who should be somewhere far away. When called on that he says that he replaced an 18 year old, making his first start in the PL with the Russian captain. If that really is how he sees things then I question not only his on-field tactics, but also his general mental health.

  35. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 11:34am

    two rumours –

    rvp has had a transfer request reject

    rvp has refused to sign a new contract….

  36. Adam

    January 23, 2012 at 11:40am

    Rico. I hope not. Are these serious suggestions or shit-stirring do you think?

  37. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 11:41am

    Totally agree Adam – especially re the wages, too many paid far too much money for doing very little….

    We dont want to become a club like the chavs and citeh as its become silly and i hope we always manage within our means but we all know there is £50m ish available to spend so why not?

    Plus, if we get rid og a few very average players who don’t even make the bench, will will make at least £10M and save on their wages…

    It’s not rocket science and i don’t see how OUR club dont see what we fans do…

  38. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 11:42am

    Its on the rumour site Adam, hopefully no truth in it but i wouldn’t blame him for wanting out…..

  39. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 11:44am

    Also rumours suggesting that Hazard was at the emirates yesterday…..

  40. Adam

    January 23, 2012 at 11:44am

    Shit-stirring then. The rumours site is full of armchair managers from Uganda.

  41. Adam

    January 23, 2012 at 11:50am

    Rico. We are managing within our means, but those means are poorly allocated and the manager who is reputedly on about £7 million a year, isn’t coaching the players. A good board would find the money. Wenger once said that, given £100 million he would give it back. If that’s true he can hardly bitch about being poor.

  42. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 11:50am

    😆 Adam….

  43. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 11:51am

    Agree on everything Adam….exept oen thing. Why should you question the guys’ tactics???? Do you seriously think that AW does TACTICS??? Regarding tactics there is only one word to describe AW…….clueless.

  44. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 11:52am

    bdw……….how come there are no AKB’s around today????? Where are you, you equivalent of the scum up the road. Are you into hiding fancy ballerinas????

  45. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 11:59am

    There are a few around the blogworld devil, i had a peep around just to see – i admire their faith but i think like AW, they are perhaps burying their head in the sand….

  46. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 12:00pm

    On which site did you read that Rico???? I havent found it on NN.

    BDW I heard that Theo is going to try his hand at a new sport. Since he is fed up running blind alleys he is going to try the new faze…….PLANKING (seeing as he is becoming good at it).

    Planking is the new faze catching up among american teenagers. it means lying flat face down stiff as a plank. It does not need any mental skill to do.

  47. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 12:01pm

    re…the RVP news I meant.

  48. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 12:13pm

    its called the rumour site devil, full of th same stuff which comes out of wengers mouth these days 🙂

  49. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 12:16pm

    re Theo devil, i am starting to think that maybe wenger is behind his running into blind alleys, remember when capello didn’t pick him because he didn’t stay on the wing and kept cutting in?

    Maybe wenger tells him the same?

    I bet a different manager woukld get him central and we’d see a very different Theo walcott…

  50. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 12:27pm

    That is exactly my though Rico. A different manager will give us different tactics using the same team but with two or three additions. Tactical naivity has always been AW’s achilles heal. I have seen this since his early days at AFC. Infact I always used to ask myself what will happen if AW has more than half a team out and his reserves are not of the physical level of the first team. The result I have seen over and over again these last few months.

  51. SD-London

    January 23, 2012 at 12:29pm

    Just one conclusion on yesterday’s game , although it pains me to say it but i will say it all the same;

    Arsenal is in trouble, we are owned by a man that only cares about our accounts and share value,

    We have a board that cares only about their shares and it’s value.
    and WENGER HAS OFFICIALLY LOST IT TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY.He doesn’t know what he is doing anymore and RVP might leave just based on yesterday’s decision alone.

    Sell the club to Usmanov(he is a true football fan and he is richer that Abramovic- pls dream about the millions possible).

    Clear or sack the board , they are not interested in winning anything.

    I will cry though if this happens but it should happen all the same i will say ; sack or retire Wenger, he has lost his spark and he is definitely part of the board and taking all of us for a ride including our celebrated fan (Henry lol)

    Kroenke,Board,Wenger,Ashavin,Walcot,JD,Squilacci,Chamack all needs to go all , all , all.

    Wenger really messed his legacy up yesterday and i dont think he will recover. Sad thing is i suspect he doesn’t know it.

  52. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 12:30pm

    Exactly on Theo…….our system needs the forwards to cut inside with the full backs on the outside. The italian system Capello uses requires the wingers to be wingers while the full backs act as backup midfielders who give support and triangles for passing. Such a system, besides weakening the team in the centre also has a telling effect on the ankles, hamstrings and ligaments and tendons…..hence our injury list.

  53. Micko

    January 23, 2012 at 12:40pm

    Hello all, great write up Oliver,
    Way back around august / september time us fans had the bare faced cheek to actually question wenger and the direction of the club and he replied back with something very similiar to “most of us fans haven’t worked half a day in football” In other words, shout your cake holes, what do we know !
    Wenger should be reminded that no-one is beyond reproach.

    SteveyP, re your 9.58, I always had you down as wengers wing man !

    Lee, rumour has it wenger wanted to pay the taxi driver by cheque and was given the evil eye.

  54. DutchGooner10

    January 23, 2012 at 12:40pm

    Afternoon all.

    Oliver your contribution will surely be missed. Many thanks in abundance. Best wishes for your future endeavors. Kind regards from Bergkamp land.

    Have nothing to add. Many comments hit the mark if you’re ready to face the facts.

    AKB = Arsene Knows Bagpipes

  55. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 12:41pm

    He got lucky with his early squad devil didn’t he, had one of the best back 5/6 players in football, the attacking part was easy…

    now he has to work on defence and attack and its not working out….

  56. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 12:44pm

    you are right Rico. but in his defence we have to say that he organized the invincibles back four.

  57. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 12:45pm

    Hi SD, as much as i wish that to happen, i cant see it any day soon, not unless the fans voices get heard…

    but, as i said earlier, there are still many many thousands who see little or nothing wrong at the club….

  58. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 12:47pm

    hi micko, and the judge me in May… well this May in 2012 could very well be his true judgement day, and it wont be pretty the way things are going….

  59. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 12:50pm

    agree devil but we also had the ability to score more than other sides back then, if we could do that today we’d be looking a top class side, just like when we played the chavs – for many it didn’t matter that we conceeded three weak goals, we scored five and got the three points…

  60. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 12:52pm

    got to pop out with fido, back a bit later….

  61. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 12:52pm

    Afternoon all

    Great write up. Well what happened was obvious. I actually said to the wife “I’ll be really happy with the draw”. a minute later, they were 2-1 up.

    I loved Wengers comment about in response to a question about the fans slagging the substitution off: “I took an 18 year old off and replaced him with the captain of Russia. Let’s be serious” (or words to that affect. If you have so much of a hard-on for him Arsene, why, if he’s so great that he is “the captain of his country”, did you not deem him good enough to start, and ahead of him play “an 18 year old kid making his first Premier League start”? against Man U?? It’s not as if was against a lower league opponent! Sorry Arsene, once again you have displayed how much of a prick you actually are.

  62. agirlagunner

    January 23, 2012 at 12:57pm

    Last post, Oliver? But why?? I don’t bother with other match reports when I miss a match. I just read yours cos it’s comprehensive and insightful. 🙁 🙁 Surely, you must reconsider. 😉

    Boo, rico, Dutch, Devil, and SD. That loss still smarts; particularly when we looked like managing a draw if not winning it. A tactical disaster, there is no denying.

    I am appalled that we now have to rely on the poor results of other teams for our CL berth. Our problems now are the same as they were before the season started. How could the board possibly have missed the fact that there just is not enough quality players in this team.

  63. agirlagunner

    January 23, 2012 at 12:58pm

    And you, too, Rocky. Boo!!! 🙂

  64. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 1:03pm

    Hi agag!

    The fact that this year there will, 100% NOT be a St Totts day this year really annoys me. And the fact that I am resigned to the fact we won’t catch the Spuds now REALLY pisses me off. As does that fact that once again, we are now only setting our sights as high as 4th place. That’s pathetic. I can honestly see Chelsea slipping up, but like you said agag, we shouldn’t always have to rely on other people’s results.

  65. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 1:11pm

    Afternoon Gooners.
    Afternoon Rico.
    Great post Oliver.
    Sorry to see ya go buddy.
    It won’t be the same without your detailed posts.
    Don’t be a stranger ok……
    Oh and i do apologize for burning Washington down in 1814.. 😉

  66. DutchGooner10

    January 23, 2012 at 1:13pm


    Boo hoo hoo Muhahaha Blehhhhh Grrrrr Tssssss @#$%&*?/ 😉

  67. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 1:14pm

    Afternoon AK. Did you go yesterday? Am I one of the only people that thought Rosicky actually had a decent game? And how the fuck did Song get a rating of 7 in the Sun?! They clearly have no idea.

  68. agirlagunner

    January 23, 2012 at 1:18pm

    There’s a restaurant here, Rocky which allows you to break plates (for a nominal fee). Grrrr. I really ought to have gone today. 😉

    We are a big club managed by a Board with a small club mentality. That the Spuds will finish ahead of us is galling beyond belief. Eeeeeeek!

  69. lee

    January 23, 2012 at 1:19pm

    I thought TR worked his nuts off, song was poor along with others but AW eclipsed them all….Rocky I dont envy your train journey’s home on CL nights!! FFS!

  70. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 1:20pm

    OK, i will hold my hand up and admit…….

    I am a Wenger man.

    And i still am….

    He needs help, even if he doesn’t realise it himself.

    The Board are totally to blame.

    A lack of leadership at the top.

    A clueless dept that deals with transfers.

    A CEO who is a total tosser.

    The Board should have hired the CEO and then told Wenger,
    “Here is our new CEO” instead of letting Wenger have the final say.

    Is THAT leadership or passing the buck???

    Hopeless at sponsorship agreements.

    Nobody with the balls to call Wenger to account.

    An owner who is never around….

    Recipe for a shambles and fans turning on each other.

    The blame of The Board, totally…….

    Remember to blame those responsible for leading our great club and don’t lump all the blame on an employee…..


  71. agirlagunner

    January 23, 2012 at 1:20pm

    Dutch, that sounds suspiciously like a mental breakdown! 😀

  72. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 1:21pm

    Hi Rocky, nah mate i suffered on 5Live and saw MotD……

  73. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 1:23pm

    Hi AK.

    I’ve never disagreed with you re the board needing to be more transparent and actually helping out whether it be with releasing funds or otherwise. That being said, you cannot blame anyone other than Wenger for his abysmal subs decisions. Yesterday wasn’t the first time he has been guilty of it, and certainly won’t be the last

  74. agirlagunner

    January 23, 2012 at 1:24pm

    AK! Your 1:20 says everything that needs to be said. 🙂

    Hope the brown pair is a good fit. 😉

    Boo, Lee!

  75. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 1:25pm

    Tell me about it Lee. I may have to go from Moorgate to Hertford North on an entirely different line and then try and get back from there rather than look at their fat, scummy smug faces.

  76. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 1:26pm

    Rocky, i’ve never been a great fan of Song, and i think he is playing as if he has one eye on his next move…..

  77. lee

    January 23, 2012 at 1:27pm

    AK, AW needs to admit/realise that he needs help otherwise this will continue….

  78. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 1:28pm

    Dutch, you better pop out for a ‘coffee’ mate…. 😀

  79. DutchGooner10

    January 23, 2012 at 1:30pm

    Agag I am nearly there by hair thread.

  80. lee

    January 23, 2012 at 1:32pm

    he can still do something about it but will his ego let him?

  81. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 1:33pm


    Agree totally regarding substitutions, he has always been suspect, but he got away with in the past as he used to have quality on the bench to come on.

    I blame the Board totally.

    They allowed Wenger too much say on matters he shouldn’t have needed to be concerned with.

    The Board should have employed proffessionals in all areas of the club, who would negate the need for Wenger’s input.

    Having David Dein dealing with transfers would be a good start…..

  82. lee

    January 23, 2012 at 1:33pm

    wish I could!! Hola Agag!!

  83. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 1:34pm

    Agag, not had a chance to get to the shops.

    When are you gonna join a gym? 🙂

  84. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 1:34pm

    I was thinking that yesterday AK, but I honestly think that over the past 2 years he has been excellent. It’s a good job Frimmers is getting decent gametime at Wolves, because he’ll be needed next year when Song jumps ship.

  85. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 1:37pm

    Lee, i agree, but he won’t.

    Think about it Gooners?

    If you were in Wenger’s shoes [ brown ones Agag 😉 ]

    no seriously, if you was AW, would you listen to a prick like PHW????

    Gazides, wtf does he know? Is Wenger gonna listen to him????
    Dein could speak to Wenger on the same level, because Dein is a football man….

  86. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 1:42pm

    Rocky, i’m, in my tiny mind, writing this season off and looking forward to next season…

    Still think we could have a good go at winning the FA Cup.

    Lift that in May and i’d sign for it.

    Yennaris and Ox were the positives from yesterday.

  87. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 1:43pm

    I think Gazides has to be on borrowed time, surely?

  88. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 1:46pm

    Djourou should never pull on an Arsenal shirt ever again. I said that a few weeks back, since then, he has, and you wouldn’t think it possible, got WORSE! Watching him lumbering around the place yesterday was infuriating. Then for their goal, someone (Rosicky maybe?) was actually showing Djourou the danger by pointing and telling him where to close down, but he then barely moved his legs! Then he hardly busted a bollock trying to shit the 37 year old sex-machine Giggs down did he?

  89. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 1:47pm

    Injuries have fcuked our season again…

    Injuries have also prevented AW from moving on more of the dead-wooders…

    I just hope AW starts Yennaris against Aston Villa, and Ox.

    Having a tough game at the Reebok 3 days later has disaster written all over it.

    Are Bolton still in the FA Cup????

  90. DutchGooner10

    January 23, 2012 at 1:48pm


    Hotchkiss identified what she called the seven deadly sins of narcissism: [18]

    1. Shamelessness: Shame is the feeling that lurks beneath all unhealthy narcissism, and the inability to process shame in healthy ways.

    2. Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.

    3. Arrogance: A narcissist who is feeling deflated may reinflate by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else.

    4. Envy: A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person’s ability by using contempt to minimize the other person.

    5. Entitlement: Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Failure to comply is considered an attack on their superiority, and the perpetrator is considered an “awkward” or “difficult” person. Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic rage.

    6. Exploitation: Can take many forms but always involves the exploitation of others without regard for their feelings or interests. Often the other is in a subservient position where resistance would be difficult or even impossible. Sometimes the subservience is not so much real as assumed.

    7. Bad boundaries: Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all. Those who provide narcissistic supply to the narcissist are treated as if they are part of the narcissist and are expected to live up to those expectations. In the mind of a narcissist there is no boundary between self and other.

  91. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 1:52pm

    Tbh i don’t think Djourou looked fit to me.

    I know he’s slow, but he was virtually static yesterday.

    Maybe another symptom of our injuries.

    Not sure Vermaelen was 100% either

    Like you Rocky, Djourou has never been a favourite of mine.

    At best, he’s a reserve. To me Miquel is a better player.

  92. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 2:02pm

    Agree re Miquel, although he had a shocker against Swansea. Kozzer was a massive plus for me yesterday. He just gets better and better in my opinion. Has Rico finally wised up to the fact that Walcott is awful yet?!

  93. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 2:05pm

    Wow Dutch…… That’s a bit deep mio amigo……

    You been on the Amsterdam Coffee Schimmelpennincks…? :P:

    Gotta say though, if nobody ever questions what you do, and questions it from a position of knowledge and authority, then i suppose you can withdraw into yourself…..

    Wonder what Pat Rice thinks???

    I’m sure that he could do a very insightfull interview.

    Why was Steve Bould reluctant to take over Rice’s place???

    Never see Bouldy with the 1st team.

    But we see Banfield….

  94. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 2:08pm

    You know Rocky, i think that’s what pissed everyone off the most at The Grove yesterday.

    Leaving on the totally ineffective Walcott rather than bringing on Arshavin.

  95. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 2:08pm

    I have always wondered why I’ve never seen Bould with all the others on Match day. Strange one

  96. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 2:10pm

    You have to wonder if Theo’s Planking incident had come 5 mins or so earlier, would Ox have stayed on a bit longer? Would have probably been hooked off for Park, but may have got a bit longer out there

  97. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 2:11pm

    Btw Dutch, do you ever get any comments over your way, from DB10 and what he thinks?

    Or does he avoid any questions on Arsenal???

  98. DutchGooner10

    January 23, 2012 at 2:14pm

    Hiya AK I am not on the funny cigar. Just looking for a clearer image admits smoke and mirrors. 😉

    Thought it reflects tellingly the current culture and status quo at our beloved club. Us fans live the atmosphere, the upper echelons in the stratosphere.

  99. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 2:18pm

    Rocky, i suppose that a players’ confidence, or lack of, comes into substitutions.

    Wenger could have hooked Djourou sooner, and maybe we wouldn’t have conceded that late goal.

    Was Wenger worrying about Djourou’s confidence?
    Did he want the physio’s to have a look at him at half-time?
    If so, why couldn’t they check him on the pitch?

    Is Wenger playing Arshavin, to try and sell him?

  100. DutchGooner10

    January 23, 2012 at 2:23pm

    AK Bergkamp is really focused on co-coaching. He rarely gives interviews, and when he does it’s mainly comments about Ajax. There’s a power struggle going on at board and management level. Complete with cat fights in court.

  101. stevepalmer1

    January 23, 2012 at 2:24pm

    We have in all honesty brought badly Mertsacker is a carthorse he is slow he plays similar to Square ball ray from a few years back struggles to go forward and is not the best defender, Santos was brought as a replacement left back but has shown he wants to play anywhere but left back when he’s fit that is, Arteta was brought as a cheap replacement for Cesc, and not to knock Arteta. has looked the best midfielder this year, but Cesc he is not, Jenkinson was a million pound player who was brought earlier than the others as a man for all positions, probably the best signing of the lot The Ox on the only occasions i have seen him play has shown more heart and commitment than many much more experienced, but up to now has been used sparsley. Our loaner Yossi will go back at the end of the season and i am certain he will not be missed. If i have missed anybody its because they have not left an impression on me. The players who were bad last year are worse this year, and that is bad management. Wenger does not need David Dien to tell him who is good and who is not in actual fact i don’t think Wenger would listen anyway. We can Blame the board all we like, but Wenger does the hirering and fireing and he has not been busy in any departments. He has not spent over what he has brought in and we sit in 5th position. The board will not do anything untill the end of the season especially while it is still mathamatically posible to reach CL but in my eyes Wenger has all this on his shoulders alone. he has stopped looking to the future because he knows his days are numbered.Management is a team effort but when the top man does not listen whats the point.

  102. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 2:28pm

    Jesus, if Wenger’s playing AA to try and sell him, it backfires every time he plays, and his value dwindles with every ticking second!

  103. DutchGooner10

    January 23, 2012 at 2:33pm

    Ajax is in a similar position as Arsenal. Preventing the club’s decline lead by clueless non-footy related board members. Only difference, they have a group of young coaching turks ( all former professionals with impressive career c.v.’s) leading the first team into a new era.

  104. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 2:40pm

    Respect Steve, but surely Wenger isn’t responsible for signing and selling players, yes he has an input but doesn’t Gazides’ dept deal with that?

  105. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 2:45pm

    Also mate, between Sept 24th – Dec 31st, Arsenal played 14 games, lost 2, drew 2 and won 10.

    We went from 14th in the table to 4th….

    With the players we are all moaning about…

    Then the injuries killed us…..

    Steve, i do understand your frustrations mate, i really do….

  106. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 2:47pm

    January has been a shit month, a bit like August was, but i still think we’ll sign a couple of players and when the injured return we’ll recover….

    Now i’m offski for a spell…. 😉

  107. DutchGooner10

    January 23, 2012 at 2:51pm


    I agree AA should have been sold in the summer. His value plummets with ever minute he plays.

  108. stevepalmer1

    January 23, 2012 at 2:51pm

    Ak hope the Mrs is Ok,
    Gazides has a non working job i don’t believe he does anything but the paper work Wenger finds the players speaks to them promisess them the world and handles them like his own children, he wouldn’t want Dien Back as he wants to do it his way. At present we are vulnerable at the back that should improve slightly but the vulnerability up front is still present. an injury to RVP and we are in deep siht

  109. agirlagunner

    January 23, 2012 at 3:14pm

    AK, looking for the nearest yoga place to my house. 🙂 Been a while since I did it.

    Gazidis is useless. Exactly like Stan Kroenke.

    Dutch, like I said, go get writing for rico. 😎

    Hey, Steve. I am afraid AW is all out of ideas. That our squad becomes good enough seems more a vain hope than a realistic expectation. 🙁 🙁

  110. agirlagunner

    January 23, 2012 at 3:16pm

    Frimpong seems fine. The Wolves hope to have him back at training at the end of the week. Whew!

  111. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 3:22pm

    Frimpong getting Frimponged! Oh the irony!

  112. agirlagunner

    January 23, 2012 at 3:27pm

    Rocky, but he was pretty upbeat about it. He tweeted at once; quite funny. I like him more by the day. 🙂

  113. Joaquim Moreira

    January 23, 2012 at 3:28pm

    I’m agree with the post.
    I must confess I only watch Yennakis played once for a few minutes. A medium player but he is a full back. How we could play with adapting central backs whem we have a pure right back? A player outside his normal place it’s always a emergence not a solution for along. It’s bad for the player. Decrease his confidence level. Djourou wil be a medium option for one of the central backs. Instead, we had played with Squil, four central backs at the same time and if necessary, another one on the bench.
    AA it’s a case study but integrating with others Russian players. Did you rmember how much chelsea had pay for Shetchvenko? And you have also the case of Pavluchenko, Ziriakov,and in other leagues, Kulkov, Yurin. Good players inside russian but poor performances outside Russian. However, AA was the most regular of them (Are we lucky?).I don’t know the reasom but perhaps the “socia life” and poor professionalis of those players.

  114. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 3:31pm

    too right agag…. What’s not to love about the guy? Seems like he’s proud to wear the Arsenal shirt and to be a gooner.

  115. Joaquim Moreira

    January 23, 2012 at 3:37pm

    “solcial life”…
    Back to the present. Unfortunatelly, I think the first four places of The League are found. If Liverpool win League Cup, they go to the europe League. With confidence, we can get a place there. Like in August/September, AW is late in make a crucial decision. Only after the defeats (cost us a season), he makes decisions. In that period, he didn’t want to admit the reality to everybody; now, he didn’t make the important decisions on the team and didn’t go early to buy a central forward.
    And if this season will be another disaster, we will be judge on the end.

  116. agirlagunner

    January 23, 2012 at 3:37pm

    JM, AA has seriously underachieved at our club. He is a world-class player who has been struggling for form for aaaaages now. The trouble is, he does not seem to be bothered. At least, there is so litttle in his performance to suggest he wants to improve. I think we should cut our losses with him. 🙁 🙁

    Schevchenko went from being truly outstanding in Milan to a non-entity in Chelsea. Torres, too, I must say. (You know me, I like to mention Torres whenever I can.) The vagaries of transfers, eh?

  117. Joaquim Moreira

    January 23, 2012 at 4:00pm

    agag, I was talking about Russian players. Zenith was a strong team in europe in that season. Inside russian they play very well (it’s because is cold?); outside are completely different players. I remember two faboulous players: Yurin and Kolkov. Both played one year for Benfica and another for Porto, But with their class, there are lot of problems extra football. Teams like Porto, very rigourous in discipline, they were out after half an year. Lisbon is a city calling for night life; Porto too but much more close. Everybody knows where everybody is. Football players not a real professional players, haven’t any chances in Porto. The same are now follow by Real Madrid, Benfica, sporting…

  118. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 4:13pm

    Afternoon fine ladies and gents…..

  119. Micko

    January 23, 2012 at 4:20pm

    Frimpong will be fine, he’s got another eye he can look out of.

    As for Arsenal i’m not so sure, I don’t even get upset when we lose these days, its not that I’m not bothered because I am but I’ve just come to accept it now, something I thought I would never do.

    Something has to change, we can’t carry on like this.

  120. agirlagunner

    January 23, 2012 at 4:35pm

    Hey ya, rico! 🙂 Howdy? Micko, it pains me to admit, but these days, a draw/loss always seems a much more distinct possibility than a win. 🙁 We used to be able to dispatch of certain teams with such ease. Now…

  121. Joaquim Moreira

    January 23, 2012 at 4:38pm

    We have lost 8 games this season – 2 at home – more then Norwich.

  122. lee

    January 23, 2012 at 4:44pm

    sad indictment of the state of things at The Arsenal…..

  123. agirlagunner

    January 23, 2012 at 4:44pm

    Quite a sobering fact, JM. 🙁 🙁

  124. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 4:45pm

    Hi agag, p****d off with all things Arsenal, thats how I am 🙁 How’s you?

  125. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 4:47pm

    Staggering JM, just staggering….

    AK – that’s just what AW hoped for when he signed TH, shame he’s already crocked 🙁

  126. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 4:48pm

    Hi JM – Not sure the cold has anything to do with it… AA runs around wearing gloves in October in London!

  127. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 4:48pm

    QPR have signed Taiwo….

  128. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 4:48pm

    HI Rico – That’s what happens when you pin your hopes on a 30-odd has-been I’m afraid…..

  129. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 4:54pm

    I know Rico, i know…..
    We should only use him off of the bench imho.

    Agag, yoga……. 😯

  130. lee

    January 23, 2012 at 4:55pm

    how ironic that stubborn bollox sold loads of 30yr olds because they wanted longer contracts…

  131. Micko

    January 23, 2012 at 4:56pm

    Hi agag, enjoying your day off ?

    Kev, you say you think wenger will buy a couple of players in, he should have done it already at the beginning of the month, he does this every year, waits until the last minute before sticking in a stupid offer and more often than not fails.
    He thinks he’s being clever but he’s not, then he comes out the next day and tells us how he nearly signed such and such a player.
    It was the same last january, we were all hoping we would sign someone and we were all gutted when the window shut, I don’t think anyone could quite believe it.
    Why don’t we just operate like a proper club, identify our targets and go in and get them early instead off flapping about and seeing other clubs step in and take them from under our noses.
    Its pathetic.

  132. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 5:06pm

    Can’t disagree with you Mick, but is it him or Gazides?

  133. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 5:09pm

    hi rocky, we could see it coming though couldn’t we, other than you know who….

    AK – Henry or the Ox 😉

    lee – totally agree and how many have we lost who could have gone on for two or three more seasons, giving time to the reserve players to come through and let them learn?

    Get Lansbury and Bartley back, get them in this side asap i say!

  134. Micko

    January 23, 2012 at 5:12pm

    Kev, in my opinion, they’re both as guilty as each other.

  135. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 5:12pm

    The thing is Mick , none of us really know, we just guess at what goes on inside the club.

    But Arsenal were shit at transfers before Wenger came.

    Dein was the major driving force behind Arsenal signing those quality players we brought in, post-Graham.

    Graham was responsible for transfers before the brown envelope affair, that changed after GG got the sack.

    So i can only guess that that is still the case.

    Wenger nominates who he wants and the CEO does the deal…. or not, as the case seems to be…..

  136. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 5:15pm

    Mick, Wenger certainly isn’t blameless, that’s for sure.

    I suppose he can suggest a valuation on a player, but for fuck’s sake, is Gazides a businessman or not.

    If we have to pay a few million more then fcukin pay it….

    That’s the problem, Dein was/is a football man, Gazides is just a wanker….

  137. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 5:19pm

    Every time I see the name “Gazides” my blood starts to boil. Excuse my language but I fucking hate that fucking cocksucking shitc**t. (Sorry Rico, I know you hate the second part of that last word, but in my opinion the word was invented for people EXACTLY like him) The shit-eating grin on his slimy face annoys me. Liek he knows he’s getting paid a shitload of cash for a job he is clearly out of his depth in.

  138. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 5:19pm

    And it’s a stupid fucking surname.

  139. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 5:24pm

    It’s being rumoured that Arteta will be back for Villa this weekend….

    Apparantly he’s confirmed it on a Spanish broadcaster…

  140. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 5:24pm

    AK, i blame the bloody lot but WEenger should have been dragged into the office today, told in no uncertain terms to sort things out but that won’t happen because they line their pockets…

    But, Wenger nneds to grow some, go tell this board he needs money to spend and then spend it…

    As Wath says, they are all guilty and we as a club are suffering and we fans are being taken for a ride….

    If AU came into tomorrow, I bet he would give Wenger two choices, go so sort it or get out….. But if AU came in tomorrow, I bet Wenger would sort it and in the next 7 days too…..

  141. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 5:25pm

    What we all need is Usmanov to get over 30% shares, then the poop could very well hit the fan….

  142. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 5:27pm

    when spelt like that, it’s fine rocky, don’t worry, i know everyone is up to fever pitch….

  143. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 5:27pm

    Can’t disagree Rico, and i’m not absolving Wenger from his share of the blame.

    I just don’t want to see the others escape from their fair share of the criticism….

    Especially Stan, who it seems, doesn’t give a toss.

  144. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 5:29pm

    Rocky you sound in desperate need of one of Dutch’s Schimmelpenninck’s….. 😉

  145. agirlagunner

    January 23, 2012 at 5:30pm

    Nightnight, dear friends!

    Sleepy now. Try not to seethe! Otherwise ask WATH for some GG. It’s possibly the only thing that would help. 😀

  146. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 5:30pm

    See you all lata….

  147. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 5:30pm

    I know you are not AK, not for one minute and i agree re Stan, and the idiot Gazidis,…

    Look at the other clubs with ‘owners’, most are either living here or come over very often, our majoy shareholder pops over when it suits, how can he look after us if he isn’t hands on?

    Meanwhile, the big russian is reported to be in the stands most home games…

    Says it all really, come on big man, make your move….

  148. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 5:31pm

    Night Agag

  149. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 5:31pm

    Nighty agag, rest well….

  150. Micko

    January 23, 2012 at 5:32pm

    Kev, I totally agree with your 5.15.

    I don’t think any arsenal manager has been given much money for transfers in the past.
    We’re always being told by the directors that there’s money in the kitty if wenger see’s a player he likes, but he doesn’t seem to want to spend it.

    We’re never get to the bottom of it, like you say no-one really knows.

  151. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 5:37pm

    Night agag / AK. Speak soon

  152. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 5:40pm

    Micko – i still think Wenger takes the brunt for a lot of the boards failures, like you say, we don’t know the all of what is going on and the only way we might would be if AU gets to the 30% shares ownership….

  153. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 5:46pm

    Off to get dinner, back in a bit….

  154. Rockyrocastle07

    January 23, 2012 at 5:46pm

    Right, off home. Speak to you all soon.

  155. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 7:07pm

    Nighty rocky…

    AK, fingers crossed eh 😉

  156. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 7:12pm


    If I was to be a juror I would swear with hand on heart that my football allegiance would not have come in the way. Honest.

  157. Lee

    January 23, 2012 at 7:14pm

    One of the dads at my son’s football said if found guilty it’ll be a custodial… you seen he opened a bank account in Monaco in his dog’s name!!!

  158. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 7:14pm

    😆 devil….

  159. Lee

    January 23, 2012 at 7:16pm

    Devil I can see your nose growing from here… : lol:

  160. Lee

    January 23, 2012 at 7:16pm

    😆 even!

  161. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 7:17pm

    Rosie 47……

    Not AK47…… 😉

  162. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 7:18pm

    Porridge for Harry………….

    A wheeler dealer in the showers……. :P:

  163. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 7:19pm

    That won’t do anything for his twitch….. 😀

  164. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 7:21pm

    All his newspaper arse lickers won’t get him outta this one….. 🙂

    Might be some arse licking in the showers at The Scrubs.. 😀

  165. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 7:22pm

    Not sure how arry can get out of this one, but i bet your bottom dollar there are more offences, the piggies just can’t prove those…

    if found guilty, he will get the same as lester piggott i hope…. 😛

  166. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 7:22pm

    Imagine the following jurors….Rico, Sir SP, Sir AK, Lee, DG10, RR07, AGAG and me. Do you think he would get any of them innocent???

  167. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 7:24pm

    Big night for all corrie fans so i’m off to make a cuppa and get ready for a good night of soap action….

    one thing for sure, it will make better viewing than yetserdays
    90 mins……

    Nighty night all, enjoy the rest of your day….

  168. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 7:26pm

    Damn you Lee. I cant even look at the screen. My nose keeps bumping on the screen and gets in the way. Sooner or later it will go through it.

  169. rico

    January 23, 2012 at 7:26pm

    Porridge devil, that’s what he’d get – and with no sugar or milk 😉

    gone now….

  170. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 7:26pm

    cat o’ nine tails from me.

    Night night Rico

  171. Joaquim Moreira

    January 23, 2012 at 7:35pm

    Chamack is playing for Marroc.
    Now, Tunisia 1 Marroc 0

  172. Lee

    January 23, 2012 at 7:40pm

    Nighty night Rico!!

  173. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 7:40pm

    Night Rico.

    Devil, you should have a look at some of the tweets on twitter from Fleet streets finish……. bunch of stinking cnuts.

    Their hatred of Arsenal shines through like a beacon…..

    I fcuking hate the lot of them….

  174. Lee

    January 23, 2012 at 7:47pm

    AK, I’ve got a confession, I listened to talkshite on the way home from the station….I screamed cnuts at the top of my voice at Durham, spouting on about arsen-geddon, the end of Arsenal….. wanker of the highest order!!

  175. Lee

    January 23, 2012 at 7:49pm

    My own fault for listening to the waste of internal organs……

  176. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 7:53pm

    Lee, i do listen to Talkshite when i’m working, it usually lasts a few minutes then i’m onto 5Live.

    If i was an advertiser, i’d be quite concerned that the stations anti-Arsenal policy is alienating the majority of Arsenal fans.
    And they don’t listen anymore….

    I never listen when i’m home….

  177. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 7:57pm

    Durham loves his notoriety, he thinks he’s a serious journalist, he’s a complete joke.

    I’d love to see him outside of The Grove, i’d gob in his face.

  178. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 8:00pm

    Why waste your gob Sir AK??? WHACK HIM WITH A BUILDER’S SPADE!!!!

  179. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 8:05pm

    Too much CCTV Devil….. 😀

  180. Lee

    January 23, 2012 at 8:08pm

    I’m off for the night guys…… Be good!

  181. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 8:10pm

    You know, when i hear all those media cnuts, it just makes me detirmined to support the club even more, or should i say the team.

    Why give all those media cnuts what they want?

    Yeah, Arsene can be a stubborn pillock, but he’s our stubborn pillock, do you think that those media cnuts give a shit.

    All they want to do is dance on our misery…

    Well fcuk them.

    Beat Aston Villa and they’ll have to crawl back into the sewer for another week.

  182. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 8:12pm

    See ya Lee.

    I’ll leave something on here for you to read on the train in the morning [ while i’m in bed :P: ]….

  183. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 8:14pm

    Do you hear/read all those media cnuts slagging off King effin Kenny?

    Liverpool have been total crap this season, and they spent millions.

    Do the Press criticise them like they criticise Arsenal???

  184. allezkev

    January 23, 2012 at 8:23pm

    Offski now.
    See ya Devil.

  185. EastSidePaul

    January 23, 2012 at 8:38pm

    Hey everyone, to be honest, I was saddened with the crowd response to Wenger, not that they where wrong, because they weren’t and completely within their rights to have their voices heard, but what saddens me is that it has come to this, Wenger could do no wrong in my eyes for years, but now its all gone wrong, and it seems that he has overstayed his welcome. A shame.

  186. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 8:38pm

    Whenever I am on the net its always AFC this AFC that. And usually its negative.

    I know its near on impossible but if we do what Liverpool did and win that damned big ears the team will not just be shoving it in their throats but sticking it through their bum at the same time. And they will surely shut up every orifice they spout their trash from,

  187. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 8:40pm

    It shouldnt have ESP. But he allowed it to become so due to his intransigent views.

    I am squilling off now. C you all toimorrow. gd night

  188. devilgunner

    January 23, 2012 at 8:58pm

    In the year 2000 there was an Arsenal mascot in the game at Highbury against Coventry City.

    On Sunday an unknown quantity played in the game against United at the Emirates.

    His name……NICO YENNARIS.

  189. rico

    January 24, 2012 at 9:40am

    New Post going up

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