2-2 v's Boca. That Display should give all Gooners great confidence going into the New Season


Ok, we should have had a penalty in the first few minutes but Atkinson waved our pleads away.

A super goal by Robin van Persie after a great bit of play from the new man Gervinho put us 1-0 up and a wonderful strike by Ramsey made it 2-0 in the second half, again, some great play preceded the goal but this time it was by Carlos Vela.

So, 2-0 up and cruising really…


In the first half we were caught out yet again a few times with a ball over the top but Boca were poor and missed their chance.

Second half highlighted once again that we have serious issues in defence, we were beaten in the air on corners and both Squillaci and Djourou committed howlers to gift Boca a goal on each occasion.

Our defence is poor and if we head into the new season without adding a centre half and a left back, we will get slaughtered….

Sorry that sounds so negative but that’s how I see it! Ok, I know TV wasn’t playing but will he stop the ball over the top, will he stop others from making gaffes?

At least Jenkinson looks like we won’t have to worry quite so much if Sagna gets injured or rested.

Wenger gave his view after the game:

When asked about letting in two second-half goals…

You never want to concede goals, but overall I do not give too much importance to that. What is important for us it to find a collective rhythm. When we could we managed to play at a good pace for 60 minutes, after it was much more difficult. It was expected, we came back from a training camp in Germany with heavy work and I knew that the second half would be much more difficult.

Boca Juniors are a good team and we got caught counter-attacking when were 2-0 up and we tried to build up the game, but when you are tired you miss some passes and were a bit more under threat.

And about the lessons he has learned:

That we can score goals and Gervinho is a good addition to our squad. He is very interesting because he gives us options on both sides and through the middle. He can integrate well with our team. Also we have some improvements to make in some areas, especially the way we win the ball back. On set pieces we were not convincing today, but overall it was quite positive.

Arsene Wenger is right, Gervinho is a very good addition to our squad and on set pieces we were far from convincing but yesterday we were also very poor at defending in open play, something which many have suggested hasn’t been a real weakness.

Just sort out the set piece weakness and all will be ok, well today showed that that isn’t the case.

We were not caught on the counter attack for their goals, we were sloppy and sub-standard!!

Doesn’t give too much importance to conceding goals?

Well that comment stuns me, maybe it’s about time Wenger did give a bit of importance to conceding goals because if we stopped conceding, we’d start winning!!

He says we need to make improvements, well I for one hope he means signing players that will stop our defence conceding stupid goals rather than burying his head in the sand and thinking we will improve at the back.

How long have we been vulnerable??

It’s great to be linked to the likes of Juan Mata but right now I’d just rather we signed Gary Cahill…..


Today we should see our favourite Thierry Henry play at The Emirates, I hope he doesn’t do to us what he once did for us against others, but then again, if he does……..

That’s it guys, not very positive I know but I’m sure you will all tell what positives there were….

202 thoughts on “2-2 v's Boca. That Display should give all Gooners great confidence going into the New Season

  1. ArsenalDK

    July 31, 2011 at 10:53am

    IMHO we played some really eye catching football yesterday, and offensively we looked really good. But as you say, in the defence, we looked terrible. Our rivals won’t be generous at letting us outscore them, which seemingly is wengers tactic. I have already lost hope in us buying quality defenders, we don’t even have a proper left back!

  2. alan b'stard M P

    July 31, 2011 at 11:09am

    good evening/morning

    Sorry, I’m not convinced

  3. W.A.T.H

    July 31, 2011 at 11:10am

    Morning……… You failed to mention yet another insult to Arsenal fans everywhere… nasri getting the captains armband….? What a joke…? wenger at his best pampering his wantaway players..! Does captaining Arsenal Football Club not mean anything anymore, ovbiously not…! As for no much importance on conceding goals that just about sums up the way wenger now thinks and his level or arrogance.

  4. ArsenalDK

    July 31, 2011 at 11:16am

    I’m with you WATH, Wenger is treating the players as if they were bigger than the club!

    We all know, he is desperate to keep his best players, but instead of humiliating himself, the club and the fans, he should go out there, and spend the money needed, on the necessary players..

  5. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 11:20am

    Morning Guys….

    Ican’t believe what our manager said after the game…. WATH, i missed the captains armband going to Nasri, talk about an insult!!

    Busy morning so back in a bit….

  6. Joe

    July 31, 2011 at 11:20am

    Arsenal, can kiss champions league Good bye… Please get rid of wenger before he turns this club into a unless team. How can a manager be sEdeno cheap and careless. Sell wenger, djouru, bendtner, cesc, diaby.. Replace them with Harzard, Samba, mata and Tevez.

  7. W.A.T.H

    July 31, 2011 at 11:25am

    ADK, wenger needs to show some balls and get rid of these pampered wantaways, he needs to get players in now and stop this penny pinching bullshit. Replace the players and then let them go… Simple. The captains armband thing is just beyond belief…! As for the defending well its hardly gonna improve when it’s the usual suspects at the back, same staff and same training it seems. We seem clueless and once again highlights the zonal marking doesn’t work for us and the high backline is a nightmare waiting to happen…!

  8. Simmer 10

    July 31, 2011 at 11:26am

    wenger needs to see a shrink!

  9. Arsenal

    July 31, 2011 at 11:28am

    On a positive note, Traore looked good in left back (better than Gibbo I would say) but he’s not ready yet. We really need a left back and CB to partner Vermaelen. Another positive, Koscielny was brilliant yesterday when he was on the pitch, he looks to have stepped up his game. Now if Vermaelen or new CB are injured we wont have to worry about swapping in Kos. Gervinho was standout again yesterday, with brilliant, quick, and direct runs. Wilshere as solid as ever, and Chamahk was working hard and even coming back to defend at times. RVP was sub-par apart from the goal, but thats ok because he usually doesnt have the greatest pre-seasons, and hey, he scored. Arshavin, did nothing out of the normal, but he did look fitter and leaner today. Vela had a brilliant run to set up Ramsey, but not much after. Ramsey went quiet after his goal. Fabianksi had nothing really to do in goal, while there was nothing Mannone could ahve done to stop the other two. Jenkinson looks to be solid after a season or two, and is a good backup for Sagna. Nasri was really poor, slowing down the play, not taking shots, and worst of all, GIVEN THE CAPTAINS ARMBAND?!!! Now onto our brilliant centrebacks, Djourou does make mistakes but not offen and he is a decent centreback, but not one to solve our problems. Squillaci is a walking disaster, period. Personally, I believe the armband should go to RVP, or Sagna.

  10. Steve

    July 31, 2011 at 11:32am

    To all those people who thought Wenger might change this summer – there was your answer.

    The only thing I feel confident about next season is Arsenal will not win another major trophy with this manager.

  11. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 11:40am

    Rather than blame the defence, look at the midfield, how many of them do you see busting their arse to close the ball down once it is lost?

    The defence has to push up to the halfway line when we are attacking or we invite their forwards to goal hang and the only true way of stopping the ball over the top is to stop it at source, which my friends, we do not do.

  12. Danish Gooner

    July 31, 2011 at 11:48am

    It took us a 25 minute to register a single shot at goal,it is gonna be dejavu all over again.As soon as we come up against committed opposition we will be in serious trouble.It is not rocket science,Wenger doesnt teach new things and he havnt got a clue on how to teach defense,ergo the same.

  13. steve.

    July 31, 2011 at 11:51am


  14. Joe

    July 31, 2011 at 11:52am

    buy quality established players.. Kids will bring Arsenal and the fans disgrace… BAU always the same crap…. Get rid of the french man now.. Wenger is doing the French FA good by raising the players from France. Not an drop of sense in this team. Theo has pace no skill!!!!!!!! Nasri overrated, cesc needs to go. Spend money or lose your fans.. Who makes the club, wenger’s money or fans? Can all Arsenal fans go on strike.. Lets see who will buy season tickets now.. As Wenger keeps taking the piss…

  15. Robert ouko

    July 31, 2011 at 11:54am

    In wenger will die!i rest ma case

  16. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 11:58am

    Die? Really?

  17. Joe

    July 31, 2011 at 11:59am

    this club has no ambition. Selling every summer, does barca sell their established players? No, but arsenal say they play like barca, but yet no balls to say no and pay these boys a decent wage to keep them. Arsenals solution; bring in Ray Palour, Nigel WInterburn and Martin Kewon into the back room. Add more still to the defence, get rid of wenger fast, buy player, Adam Johnson from Man city decent player, mata, Eden Harzard, Cahill, Phil Jags, Samba and Enriquie…. Sell the unfaithful ones..(Judahs)

  18. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 12:02pm

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  19. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 12:55pm

    Hi all…

  20. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 12:57pm

    i didn’t see cesc leave at half time, whats that all about then….

  21. W.A.T.H

    July 31, 2011 at 1:25pm

    He must have seen squilli coming on and decided enough was enough….! 😀

  22. W.A.T.H

    July 31, 2011 at 1:29pm

    I’m off Rico time to hit the pub ready for the match…….. catch ya lata 2nite…!

  23. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 1:31pm

    😛 WATH

    Enjoy the game, if you can 😉

    Henry is rumoured to be playing for us in the second half… 😮

  24. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 2:11pm

    If only Rico.

  25. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 2:23pm

    That’s what i thought Will – apparently the refs won’t allow it…

    Matt Law from The Daily Express tweeted that fans are in for a surprise today so i guess that is where story began….

  26. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 2:31pm

    I really need a Twitter account so I can follow these guys and get the inside scoop.

  27. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 2:32pm

    It’s easy Will, if i can do it, anyone can…. :)

  28. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 2:37pm

    I think I will do that this afternoon.

    So, are you excited about today?

  29. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 2:44pm

    Yep Will, England are batting well, Bell has just passed 100 and KP his 50, 100 odd runs ahead now…. 😉

  30. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 2:45pm

    Ah ha.

    I want to see how our defence does against Thierry. Also, I would really like to see a forward three of Gerv, Theo and Robin.

  31. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 2:49pm

    Theo isn’t playing Will, he’s injured and out for ten days..

    I’d really like to see Bartley start in defence with TV….

  32. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 2:51pm

    Blimey, it’s a bit radical on ‘ere today…
    Afternoon Gooners…
    How are we all today???
    Is everybody happy???
    looking forward to another rip-roaring season…? :)

  33. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 2:53pm

    Forgot about Test…
    Rico, what’s the score?
    And hello…
    What was the joke Will? Let me in on it… 😆

  34. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 2:57pm

    Afternoon AK, 219 – 3, 152 ahead now with Bell on 124, KP has just nicked one to the keeper….

  35. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 2:59pm

    I’m dreading our season if i’m honest, IF we start with the crop we have right now…..

    Reckon that was Fabregas’s last trip to the Emirates or will he be there today i wonder……

  36. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 2:59pm

    AN injury at Arsenal, going into the season, surely not?

  37. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 2:59pm

    Shit…! Thought he was on for another daddy 100.
    Trott fit to bat, is he in next???

  38. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 3:00pm

    yep Will, he had a scan, that was all in a post too, see you don’t read them ;0 😉

  39. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 3:01pm

    Rico, i think we’re gonna be ok…
    Don’t ask me why, i just have a good vibe about the season.

  40. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 3:03pm

    Good post Rico, but i can sense your unease coming through.
    31 days to go. Plenty of time to snare a couple of players. 😉

  41. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 3:10pm

    Not sure Trott is fit AK :(

  42. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 3:11pm

    I hope we do kev and i don’t want to see Squilli play ever again 😉

  43. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 3:12pm

    PSG are 2-0 up agains Boca :)

  44. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 3:18pm

    Rico, on ECB website, they said Trott is fit to bat.
    Looks as if he’ll come in next wicket down [hopefully tomorrow 😉 ].
    Morgan needs some runs, i hope he’s in the mood and has some luck [of the Irish 😆 ].

  45. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 3:18pm

    I was being sarcastic again Rico. Has there been a season in the last 5 we have not started without at least two injuries.

  46. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 3:19pm

    Good kev, i didn’t see that – saw him in the nets earlier and he could hardly lift his bat… Need these two to see the day out, then we can push hard tommorow, get a lead of 350/400 and declare :)

  47. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 3:19pm

    Why can’t Squillaci do his cruciate?
    Then Wenger has no choice but to buy!

  48. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 3:20pm

    😛 re squilli, never works out that way, knowing our luck TV is more likely….

    You trusting JD this season so far??

  49. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 3:21pm

    Sounds good to me Rico. Hopefully the wicket will start to ‘perform’ on the 4th day and maybe the 5th.

  50. Doc Brody

    July 31, 2011 at 3:24pm

    Well at least the attack looks good. Praying and praying for center defense.

  51. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 3:28pm

    I can fully understand the fans being unhappy with Djourou at times. But cast your mind back to last season when Squillaci and Koscielny were giving us palpitations. Everyone was delighted when Johann was fit, and came into the team, because he was the best we had in the air…
    Yes he is a dozy git, but he needs someone in his earhole all the time and Squillaci is just hopeless as a partner for him.
    As you said, and i said early this morning, i hope Wenger gives Bartley a start, or at least a run from the bench.
    Wenger knows what the others can do, so don’t waste this opportunity and give Kyle a game alongside Vermaelen…
    You never know, they might just look the biz?

  52. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 3:30pm

    need the weather to change kev, sun to go in and clouds to cover – then swing jimmy :)

    Hi Doc, def need at least one, hopefully two but can’t see the latter happening….

  53. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 3:32pm

    I think JD could be a defensive midfielder.

  54. T-Buzz

    July 31, 2011 at 3:33pm

    Hi y’all. mixed feelings aboiut the game yesterday. First half was ok and so was thhe 1st 5 mins of the 2nd half. After that it went down hill. Nasri wasnt that interested in the game but gervinho was encouraging.

    Hilight for me and my son was seeing David Dein walk past us!! What a gentleman he was, took pictures and chatted with us that he was impressed with Gervinho and hoped there were more players in the pipeline.

  55. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 3:33pm

    JD went off a bit after his injury late in the season and doesn’t seem to have got back to where he was:


    Sagna, Kos, TV Gibbs

    Song Wilshere Rosicky Ramsey

    Gervinho RvP

  56. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 3:35pm

    That’s his true position Will

    Hi T-Buzz, good for DD, lets hope he has some inside info from his buddy Arsene – maybe they chatted while holidaying together :)

  57. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 3:37pm

    3-0 PSG, now we need to beat NYRB’s ….

  58. T-Buzz

    July 31, 2011 at 3:40pm

    lets hope so lol

  59. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 4:02pm

    I’m watching the game on al Jazzeera.
    The commentators certainly make more sense than the prats we have to suffer in England..!

  60. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 4:12pm

    Just about to watch kev, no doubt it will be that idiot Burley…..

  61. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 4:21pm

    Let’s hope we come through with no injuries.

  62. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 4:23pm

    Guys, do you have any links, I can’t find any.

  63. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 4:24pm

    It’s great Rico, i can’t understand a word of Arabic, but not having to listen to some failed manager/pundit telling us the obvious is very enjoyable.
    Mind you the commentator sounds a bit like a Saudi Andy Gray. 😆

  64. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 4:24pm

    Scrub that, I think I have one.

  65. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 4:26pm

    Subs: Nasri, Vela, Djourou, Fabianski, Arshavin, Jenkinson, Eboue, Chamakh, Afobe, Frimpong, Bartley

  66. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 4:27pm

    😆 kev, that’s better than the real Gray 😉

    What a welcome for TH – bought a tear to my eye…..

  67. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 4:27pm

    What Will, an injury or a link 😉

  68. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 4:30pm

    Blimey, you dont hear the fans this loud in a PL game…..

  69. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 4:31pm

    Wilshere off injured, Afobe on…..

  70. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 4:33pm

    JAck off injured?

  71. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 4:34pm

    I wanted to see Benik get a game, but i hope it’s precautionary..

  72. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 4:35pm

    Bad limp though, but glad he’s straight off…

  73. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 4:41pm

    We are definately shooting more…

  74. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 4:46pm

    Afobe looks nervous.

  75. Doc Brody

    July 31, 2011 at 4:47pm

    MLS has come a long way in last 5 or 10 years. But remember they are mid season fit, and I’m quite sure this game means more to them than us.

  76. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 4:48pm

    Rosicky is looking pretty good…….

  77. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 4:51pm

    I thought Afobe was doing ok Will…

    Doc, a very long way, you hear Burley’s stupid comment about why their players are playing in the MLS??

  78. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 4:52pm

    Still too many players wanting ball to feet.

  79. goonerstan

    July 31, 2011 at 4:52pm

    Hi guys have we signed MATA yet…am caught up at work so am not following the game…could u guys keep me abreast with the latest score line……

  80. Doc Brody

    July 31, 2011 at 4:53pm

    No, hadnt heard. what comment?

  81. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 4:56pm

    Too narrow, too many players in a small space.

  82. goonerstan

    July 31, 2011 at 4:59pm

    Guys what is the state of play….RICO what’s going on? Are we playing well at all.

  83. arsenal fan

    July 31, 2011 at 5:00pm

    whats the score now,can anybody tell?

  84. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 5:01pm

    It is 0-0

  85. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:02pm

    Doc – He was incinuating that the players are all past it and no much good!! Whata jerk, Henry is better now than he ever was….

    stan, no Mata and doesn’t look like there ever will be :(

    0-0, we are better than yesterday… a bit.. Jack is off injured

  86. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 5:03pm

    We are playing at walking pace with no real threat.

  87. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:05pm

    Could be because its hot Will?

  88. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 5:08pm

    Nice goal, a good set piece.

  89. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 5:09pm

    Arsenal striker Nicklas Bendtner is all set to complete a move to Portuguese outfit Sporting Lisbon and thus end his time in England. Sporting had originally offered £7m but it is thought a bid of £9m was enough to seal the move.

    Bendtner was spotted in Lisbon today presumably finalising the deal. Reports in Portugal suggest that Bendtner will be unveiled on Saturday prior to Sporting’s friendly with Valencia.

    Despite Bendtner’s ridiculous self-belief, the Dane has failed to make any impact on the Arsenal team, with a goal-scoring record of worse than one in four games.

    The news of Bendtner’s departure will come as relief to fans of several Premier League clubs who were loath to see the striker join their club. Everton, Newcastle and Aston Villa had all been linked with loan deals for the frontman – none of which were welcomed by supporters.

    These moves were mere talk because Wenger had always favoured selling the Danish international rather than loaning him out, lest to a team in the same league. Despite holding out for £12m, Wenger will be satisfied with the fee received.

    Bendtner’s fate was effectively sealed when Wenger swooped for Ivorian forward Gervinho.

  90. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 5:10pm

    Now we are playing with purpose. My mind has been changed, Afobe has settled well and yes, Rosicky is looking threatening.

  91. Doc Brody

    July 31, 2011 at 5:11pm

    Rico – even if its true that there are a lot of “retired” players in the MLS, it’s still good for the American players to share the field and learn. As I spend a lot of time in the states, I’d love to see the MLS develop and become a good feeder league for EPL players.

  92. goonerstan

    July 31, 2011 at 5:12pm

    Rico take it from me…MATA ll sign! He doesn’t wanna play for the swamp dwellers said he ll rather stay back at valencia……according to him the spuds are not European class.

  93. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:18pm

    Great goal, great free kick from rosicky, rvp should never take one again 😉

  94. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:20pm

    Good news Will, wonder if Wenger will replace him?

    Doc, agree, good the the MLS I say, they are doing well to attract players who are near the end of their careers and other younger players can learn a lot from them…

    Amazed Wayne Rooney’s brother is out thyere at 20 years old…

  95. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 5:20pm

    Why don’t you listen to al Jazeera, those guys talk a damn sight more sense than Burley [who?], even though i haven’t a scooby what they’re actually saying.

    You don’t some shithead commentator to tell ya what your seeing.

    Rosicky is showing some neat link-up play. I like him in that role.
    Gervinho looks a threat whenever he’s close to goal.
    Afobe has done quite well. Makes ya wonder if he’s actually in Wenger’s plans for this season.

  96. Doc Brody

    July 31, 2011 at 5:20pm

    Wait. So if the score stays unchanged we win the Emirates cup right?

  97. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:21pm

    No place again today for Lansbury in the squad :(

    AK, i reckon he is…. and why JET was allowed to move on….

  98. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:22pm

    Stan, i don’t think Mata will go to the swampies but not sure wenger is really after him, i hope to be wrong though and we get him….

  99. Merlin96

    July 31, 2011 at 5:23pm

    Lansbury will play when he signs that contract extension.

  100. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 5:23pm

    Rico, he certainly is a big lad, i think he could easily hold his own in the EPL.
    And you should see Aneke, he’s a monster..!
    Boateng’s a big lad as well.

  101. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:23pm

    Doc, yes…

    The winner of this game wins…

  102. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:25pm

    Best he get on and sign it then Merlin… Afternoon to you :)

  103. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 5:26pm

    Merlin, i think you may have something there…
    I’ll see Lansbury at Dover Ath this Weds’, so i’ll let ya know how he does Rico.

  104. Merlin96

    July 31, 2011 at 5:26pm

    Calm down people.
    Wenger is still experimenting with his line-up without Walcott, Arshavin, Nasri and Cesc.

    More and more, it looks like 80% of our team then.

    Still tough aorund the edge with no linkage and understanding between MIDFIELD and ATTACK.

    It came alive in last 10 minutes with Rosicky taking control of MIDFIELD>
    Ramsey still raw and has little influence in MIDFIELD.

  105. Joe

    July 31, 2011 at 5:28pm

    I think Mr wenger is part of a scam, trying to kill P. League elites. Arsenal will end up 7th this season.

  106. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:28pm

    I think so too Kev, if only the three you mention were a couple of years older 😉

  107. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 5:29pm

    I do hope that Wenger gives Bartley a run-out…
    Btw, two games at home and two stone-wall penalties ignored by our useless officials.

  108. goonerstan

    July 31, 2011 at 5:29pm

    You just wait and see…..we ve got mataaaaa

  109. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:29pm

    Thanks kev, maybe a reserve match report 😉

  110. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:30pm

    I’m calm Merlin :)

    Joe, that is one random comment, you any proof he is on such a mission??

  111. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:34pm

    Burley has now said this game is no more than a work out and NYRB’s would not even be in the PL if they were in the English league….

  112. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 5:46pm

    Rico. I supplied Joe with a link to follow earlier.

  113. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 5:47pm

    Van Persie is sublime.

  114. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 5:50pm

    Bloody hell, did you just see that?

  115. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:54pm

    Bartley coming on – hoooooooooorah…

  116. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:56pm

    I saw Will, i’ll say no more….

    Bartley is Huge!!

  117. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 5:56pm

    Getting your wish Rico and he is a big lad.

  118. arsenal fan

    July 31, 2011 at 5:56pm

    that balague guy says we have got mata…….

  119. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 5:57pm


  120. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:58pm

    He is Will, not just tall either 😉

  121. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 5:59pm

    af – so does Hunter

    Kev – Lord only knows, crazy…

  122. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 6:00pm

    Rico, you naughty, naughty girl.

    I like Eboue.

  123. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 6:01pm

    Eboue has put a bit of weight on….

  124. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 6:01pm

    Someone has to Will, good on you…. 😉

  125. arsenal fan

    July 31, 2011 at 6:04pm

    is that rooney?????????lol

  126. Doc Brody

    July 31, 2011 at 6:05pm

    Am I missing something re Eboue? No deal then?

  127. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 6:07pm

    He was subject to the most un-Arsenal treatment I have ever seen a player receive.

  128. arsenal fan

    July 31, 2011 at 6:09pm

    1-1 ,still no mental toughness…

  129. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 6:14pm

    Boooing? Really?

  130. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 6:15pm

    Henry telling Nasri not too leave.

  131. arsenal fan

    July 31, 2011 at 6:18pm

    wow booing in preseason only,under extreme pressure already…..spend some money….

  132. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 6:18pm

    Well, i’m going to have a pop at Bartley for that own goal, the camera shot of static players around him says it all…

    It’s the same old thing up front though, once the main players go off we have nothing much to offer on goal…

    The form of Chamakh is worrying and Rosicky cannot manage 90 mins yet….

  133. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 6:20pm

    Its that time of day for me, duties to be doing but will be back later….

  134. arsenal fan

    July 31, 2011 at 6:20pm

    im getting really scared for the season now, we are leaking goals easily at the emirates now,now that is a real concern……

  135. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 6:22pm

    Bloody shame for Bartley… talk about sods law.
    Thought Ramsey had a good game…
    Afobe looked very good.
    Question: Who was more effective… Afobe or Vela..????
    And lets not go overboard….it’s still only pre-season…

  136. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 6:23pm

    Oh, and btw again, did i see yet another penalty not given in the 2nd 45… Three in two games….

  137. Joe

    July 31, 2011 at 6:24pm

    @ Rico, I hope you’ve seen the proof yourself!! What is this all about messing about with loyal fans. I am gonna start supporting Spurs. Arsenal no hope wait of time and space. As Wenger always says we have quality!! What quality. Rubbish..

  138. Doc Brody

    July 31, 2011 at 6:25pm

    Once again, Arsenal figures out how to give away points. We are actually quite experts at it.

  139. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 6:30pm

    Doc, there wasn’t any points at stake mate. They were playing for an old tin pot.
    In an EPL game, Wenger won’t be making 5 substitutes, that’s what disrupted the team…

  140. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 6:31pm

    Will, what was that address again…?
    Put it up mate..!

  141. Doc Brody

    July 31, 2011 at 7:00pm

    Allezkev – Arsenal has a habit of finding new and unique ways to lose games – whether it’s a bizarre cock up in the carling cup final, or a collapse against new castle aided in part by Diaby and the Ref. Taken individually, we can say each result was just unlucky. But looking at the whole, there is a trend – and that trend is that Arsenal will always find a way to give up points. Other teams, like Man U seem to always find a way to win. We used to be the kind of team that always found a way to win. But now we are the opposite.

    It happened in china. It nearly happened against Colgne. It happened yesterday. It happened today against an MLS team for gods sake.

    Of course it’s just preseason and none of this really matters, but I am concerned that we are seeing more of last season from Arsenal. I think it’s more than fair to have that concern. And by the way, I can Haifa tee you that none of the Arsenal players or staff will be OK with this result.

  142. Doc Brody

    July 31, 2011 at 7:03pm

    Uh “Haif tree” in the last sentence there was a bizarre iPad autocorrection of “guarantee” – sorry about that.

  143. ArsenalDK

    July 31, 2011 at 8:33pm

    “We have nothing more to offer at the moment. Hopefully that will change in the next two weeks.”


  144. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 9:47pm

    Hi Guys..

    Joe, not wishing to sound rude but a True Gooner would never even give a split seconds thought about a) supporting another team and b) mentioning the swap dwellers down the road in that thought…..

    Really off the wall comment imho….

  145. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 9:57pm

    Rico/Will, you about?

  146. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 10:04pm

    Yes I am.

  147. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:09pm

    Doc, i fully understand where you are coming from.
    I, like you, want to see my club winning things, as i have got used to seeing in the last 24 years.
    But basically, i am fed up, feeling fed up, and i simply will not allow myself to feel pissed off anymore.
    If Arsenal win something this season then i will be totally made-up.
    But i will no longer allow the lack of silverwear to spoil my football.
    I am approaching this season, detirmined to enjoy my football, win,lose or draw.
    I will not allow some fcuked up sports journo to mess with my head and turn me against my club.
    I am sick to death of all those media cnuts whose sole aim is to sew discourse among Arsenal fans.
    *I know that everything at Arsenal isn’t perfect, but it’ll do for me.
    I don’t expect other fans out there to agree, and that’s fine.
    I am going to enjoy my footie this season and sod everything else….. 😛 COYG

  148. stevepalmer1

    July 31, 2011 at 10:09pm

    me too

  149. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:10pm

    Hello Will, sorry about the rant… 😉

  150. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:11pm

    Hey Stevo, how ya going buddy/

  151. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:13pm

    you know Steve/Will, i read some web sites and, “My God” do these guys really like football…?
    I’m as obsessed about my club as the next fan, but some of the stuff i read is pure evil…

  152. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 10:13pm

    Me too :)

  153. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:14pm

    Hey nurse, how ya doing?

  154. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 10:14pm

    Hi Steve, thanks for the email – big help :)

  155. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:17pm

    Rico/Will/Steve, when i first came onto this fantastic website with it’s fantastic Arsenal fans, i was a bit of a moaner.
    But some of the drivel and poison i read has sent me the ‘other way’…and that’s not the way i walk.. :)
    I’m becoming more AKB than i ever thought i could become, because when all is said and done, and for all his irritating faults, Wenger has been a fantastic manager for us, and he still is…

  156. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 10:17pm

    😆 Kev…

    It’s not the lack of silverware that bugs me if i’m honest, it’s the lack of heart, passion and comitment we see from a few players last season and the promises from the manager which fail to be backed up with actions…

    You know, I said a few weeks ago, had Wenger and Gazidis not promised us busy transfer window, i wouldn’t have moaned half as much as i have this summer…

    I just wish they had said nothing and then any signing would be a surprise…..

  157. stevepalmer1

    July 31, 2011 at 10:18pm

    Well said that man, I have been disapointed for quite a few years, it hurts everytime we lose, even a friendly Ems Cup pisses me off big time, but if i live another 60 years which i won’t, support another team, you must be out of your fucking mind, and Joe if you think its better down the road that is probably where you should have been in the first place, hopefully after this defeat is a distant memory you will come to your senses and realise you are still supporting the best club in the world.

  158. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:19pm

    And yes, i have had a couple of pints tonight. And a very nice meal. 😛

  159. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 10:19pm

    I have a horrid cold actually kev and fed up with sneezing :)

  160. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 10:21pm

    You an AKB kev 😆 😆

    Now way 😉

  161. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:21pm

    Bravo Stevo, i love your posts. When i read them i feel like cheering.
    Rico, i also love your posts, but i really love your pizza…hey hey

  162. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 10:22pm

    Indian Kev?? 😛

  163. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 10:23pm

    Well said Kev, there is not another manager in world football who can do what Wenger does and all of these “fans” who demand titles really don’t understand football. Wenger is his own worst enemy.

  164. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:24pm

    Rico, ha ha, no , not really, but i love my footie and i’m bloody well gonna enjoy it.
    And when Joe is 30 years older, and grows up, maybe he’ll feel the same.
    Joe, football is there to be enjoyed son, it’s not there so you can hate…!

  165. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:25pm

    No Rico, it was a chicken dish in a lovely sauce.
    But…. if i’d had my way, it would have been a curry… 😆

  166. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:27pm

    Rico, you not well boss..?
    Honey and hot lemon. Always does it for me…

  167. stevepalmer1

    July 31, 2011 at 10:28pm

    Sorry all, Hi rico, and welcome back Ak, lots of people are trying there hardest to down Arsenal and their fans simply because we do things the right way. Wenger believes the right way is to run the club within what you earn and he mentions it all the time, which makes him sound a skinflint, and it also ruffles feathers of some supporters, who are envious of big spending clubs, the people who own our club are just as wealthy but we run as a self sustaining business, i miss the big signings as well but i prefer the club to be stable and when we do win which will be very soon it will be within our means

  168. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:28pm

    Will, i think that far from being a liar, as one idiot calls him, he is too honest for his own good.

  169. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 10:30pm

    Blimey, a Wenger love in on Highbury House 😉

    Surely we have to be realistic and a bit more honest?

    Wenger was brilliant from 1996 – 2005/6..


    He is not perfect these days, if he was, he would have address our defensive frailties 3/4 seasons ago and he would bought us a clinical goal scorer and a defensive midfielder.

    And then what about our keeper situation over the last few years??

    I don’t hate Wenger, I just get frustrated with his empty promises….

  170. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:36pm

    Rico, ha ha, a summer of Wenger love… :)

    I know exactly what you are saying Rico, and you and Wath are totally right. But he is a bloody stubborn and at times stupid Frenchman. He also believes that he is doing the right thing. He simply will not pay inflated transfer fees for good to average players, who mostly are over-rated Brits, and i don’t blame him.
    Listen to than fat bastard Micky Quinn on Talk Shite. These are the kind of morons our club are up against and the poison they spout.
    Well lets see where those Wheel steeling tossers end up this season. because they will be below the Arsenal, so will the Yids..

  171. stevepalmer1

    July 31, 2011 at 10:38pm

    He pisses me of big time with some of his comments and he seems to work in mysterious ways so mysterious that i don’t understand what he is doing, i see frailties in certain places and know we are strapped for cash and he buys forwards, now if he goes out and buys a decent defender things may slip into place but having said that Jenkinson and Bartly even Traore don’t look to bad

  172. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:40pm

    Btw, my friend in Malta texted me something about ‘Arsenal have got Jagielka’, don’t know where he got it from, hope it wasn’t that NewsNow or whatever that mob of cowboys call themselves…
    Any news your end???

  173. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:43pm

    Steve your so right mate [imho :) ].
    The only defender i really have no time for is Squillaci… er, well two, Squillaci and Eboue. Both are clueless.
    But our other defenders are decent, and yes, they will make mistakes. But that is football ffs.

  174. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 10:44pm


    i agree with his views on spending 30, 40, 50 million pounds on players, it’s not right – and i don’t knock him for that.

    What i think is daft is spending money on players like squilli when an extra few million would get a better player…persisting with players who just won’t give their all for OUR club…

    Standing by Almunia and Fabianski when they were shocking, playing Denilson when even a referee over takes him he’s so slow…

    Personally i hope he never breaks the bank for a super duper signing like the citeh have just done, but 15 -18 million for a quality CH is not going to do that.

    Why also let 20 Million go down the pan by keeping Nasri, Wenger would get two players for that amount of money….

  175. stevepalmer1

    July 31, 2011 at 10:45pm

    So many rumours Ak i decided i would wait for wenger the player and the shirt before i believe it, Wenger loves leaving it late and i expect the same this window

  176. Will

    July 31, 2011 at 10:47pm

    As has been said on here, Wenger respects the spirit of the game and runs us as a self sustaining business, unlike a few other teams who would be gone if not for their crutches,

  177. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 10:49pm


    I really like the look of Jenkinson ( Wilkinson 😉 ) and Gervinho…. Traore did pretty well yesterday and Gibbs had a good game today… I actually don’t know how they got that goal today, and like i said earlier, i’m not going to beat Bartley up for it…

    Could be a blessing in disguise, same for Jenkinson – two on debut =two own goals – get over it boys and youll be fine…. and they will

  178. stevepalmer1

    July 31, 2011 at 10:50pm

    I figure he is bideing his time with both Cesc and Nas, he knows what their worth and i think he believes he will get what their worth, i also believe we will to, no point saveing money on buying when you give it away selling

  179. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:54pm

    Rico, i agree, i really do. He drives me around the bend at times.
    Squillaci strikes me as a bit of a panic buy. I don’t think he’ll be with us much beyond this season.
    If Wenger does have a big fault, it in not being proactive enough in moving players on.
    EG… Eboue. He’s finished at AFC, so why the hell does he keep on playing him? Unless it’s to show any interested clubs that he still rates him, even if he doesn’t…

  180. stevepalmer1

    July 31, 2011 at 10:55pm

    I am going to wait untill i see a team that plays 90 minutes with the same players before i make any rash judgments, but i do like the look of Geronimo and wilkinson jenkinson what ever his bloody name is two or three games and if he keeps playing the same the whole country will know who he is

  181. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 10:59pm

    Good points Steve, i’ve felt that myself.
    Why should AFC sell their players on the cheap?
    Yes, we all get annoyed with them and say ‘get rid’, but the club has to maximise it’s assets.
    Maybe Mata will sign for us and Nasri will leave?
    I really don’t believe that Wenger will let Nasri run down his contract. It’s all a game of bluff and counter-bluff.

  182. stevepalmer1

    July 31, 2011 at 11:01pm

    I get the feeling when he brought Squill and kosy he believed he was getting another two Vermaelens, it hasn’t worked out but he does seem to show loyalty to his players, plus these guys have contracts that need honering as well

  183. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 11:03pm

    Remember in both games, the team went tits-up after a raft of substitutions. Wenger is still concentrating on fitness and getting most of his players through pre-season, fit and well for Newcastle.

  184. stevepalmer1

    July 31, 2011 at 11:04pm

    If he has a plan i hope it works better than his ones before, i am wondering if he is flying by the seat of he’s pants at the moment

  185. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 11:06pm

    Not that they really went tits-up today. too many players failed to clear the ball properly and poor old Kyle is the villan of the piece.
    I still think he’s a good defender, but his face at the end..!
    I really felt sorry for him…

  186. rico

    July 31, 2011 at 11:07pm

    Guys, i really want to stay up and carry on this debate but i cant keep my eyes open :(

    I have to go up the wooden ones, sorry… :(

    Nighty all…..

  187. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 11:11pm

    Steve, in 31 days it could all be hunky dorey. I really don’t think he won’t bring in two more quality players.
    Afobe is a real bonus. He looked great. And we have so many more good youngsters waiting for a chance…
    Denilson, Eboue, Almunia, Bendtner gone [almost].
    Diaby, almost a fringe player now.
    Time for some of our talented Kids to breakthrough.
    That’ll do for me Gooners

  188. stevepalmer1

    July 31, 2011 at 11:13pm

    night ricolicious, you have a good nights sleep and make sure that Wath doesn’t snore in your ear

  189. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 11:13pm

    Good night Rico. You have a good kip boss.
    See ya fresh as a daisey tomorrow… 😉

  190. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 11:15pm

    Where is Wath????
    Surely he’s not still in the pub…?

  191. stevepalmer1

    July 31, 2011 at 11:15pm

    Love chatting to ya Ak but i have had a busy day myself and have to get up early catch you later me old buddy.

  192. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 11:19pm

    Yeah, goodnight Stevo, talk to ya lata mate.

  193. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 11:20pm

    Will, you gone to bed as well, i’m on a roll on here tonight.

  194. allezkev

    July 31, 2011 at 11:38pm

    Ah well, good night all.

  195. Will

    August 1, 2011 at 8:26am

    Good morning all, I am still getting over “fans” booing a pre-season game.

  196. allezkev

    August 1, 2011 at 10:04am

    Morning Will.
    A pinch and a punch, for the first of the month, and no return… 😀
    Not read any papers, i rarely do these days, just hate them.
    Not read any web sites, so, is there any ‘good’ news today…?

  197. rico

    August 1, 2011 at 10:34am

    Morning Guys, it won’t be long 😉

    A pinch and a kick Kev 😉

  198. allezkev

    August 1, 2011 at 10:41am

    Ouch….. :P:

  199. rico

    August 1, 2011 at 10:43am


  200. rico

    August 1, 2011 at 10:43am

    New Post up guys….

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