Dutch Master waiting in the wings – Leave Ryo Miyaichi where he is?

Going on from the talk about who should play at which level for their country, I was looking around to see who from our club is making an impact at under 17 level.

One name stood out and that was Kyle Ebecilio, Dutch Number 6 below. ( That was my number in my playing days :) )

Just what is it about Orange?? .....

Kyle arrived at Arsenal from Feyenoord in 2010 and in February this year our club announced that he had signed his first professional contract.

No doubt many of us thought, โ€˜woopeeโ€™, another kid signed on, another big wage to pay but this kid seems to have what it takes. Heโ€™s from a footballing family; he has a brother at Ajax and a cousin at Chelsea so itโ€™s obviously in their blood to play the game we all love.

His brother Lorenzo is a proper winger, could be worth thinking about ๐Ÿ˜‰

I digress โ€“ Kyle was signed from Feyenoord, the club that now has many players representing their country at under seventeen level, the club that our very own Ryo Miyaichi is on loan to at the moment.

Kyle Ebecilio has just helped his country to a 2-0 victory over Germany, the same Germany that everyone bleets on about being the greatest right now in the way they bring through their youth players.

The game was at 1-0 until four minutes from the end but then Anass Achahbar played Kyle Ebecilio a ball behind the defence and our boy calmly finished to clinch a 2-0 win.

He said it was โ€˜a goal made at Feyenoordโ€™.

Ebecilio may have left the Rotterdam club to join us last summer but Feyenoord still had five players representing their country. He had this to say after the game:

It was a difficult game but the team worked hard and we did very well, I worked hard too but in the first half I didn’t play so well, I was much better in the second half. It was a good goal, I used to play with Anass at Feyenoord, and we used to do that a lot.

Kyle was a regular in the qualifying rounds to this competition until he was sent off in the last game against Ukraine. The Netherlands were already through, he missed three games in the elite round. This in turn meant he had to follow the tournament in Rotterdam from afar and it was a nervy affair for our man.

I was very thankful to the team that they made it through the elite round and I’m happy to be back in the squad for the finals. I couldn’t see the games in Holland but one of my team-mates was calling me all the time when there was a goal or something.

The Dutch coach,Stuivenberg was delighted to be able to turn to Ebecilio again.

He was very important, especially against Emre Can from Germany, a very strong player, both with the ball and physically. He is the only one that could really compete with him so I am happy that he is back.

Ebecillio now believes the team are together after losing a friendly against Can.

We lost 2-1, but that was our first game all together as the national team,. It was quite difficult. Now the team are playing much better than before. Everyone is now a team player and we work for each other, we know what to do on the pitch.

Kyle may only be seventeen years old but the way his career is going, it won’t be too long before we see him playing for the first team, he has already played a few games for the reserves. Isn’t it just a shame he’s not five years older…

Ryo Miyaichi is currently on loan at Kyles old club โ€“ heโ€™s only eighteen years old and until he gets his visa, he cannot join us.
This season to date he has played in eleven games, scored three goals and set up four, not bad really for such a young one.

Looking at how many players from Feyenood are already representing their country at under 17 level, would it be wise to try and bring Ryo back this summer, or would it make more sense to leave him where he is for one more season?

After all, we know one player who came from there don’t we and he’s pretty good these days….

Finally, speculation is mounting that Thomas Vemaelen will return to the side to face Stoke City on Sunday, while Fabregas, Djourou and Nasri are still doubts. No doubt Wenger will tell us more during his press conference.

That’s it folks, have a good day……

96 thoughts on “Dutch Master waiting in the wings – Leave Ryo Miyaichi where he is?

  1. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 9:23am

    Morning all,

    I can’t wait to see the little fella from Japan playing here in the UK….

  2. K-TR7

    May 5, 2011 at 9:30am

    Morning all.good insight about kyle.i did not know much about him but now i do.

  3. Will

    May 5, 2011 at 9:31am


    It is great hearing about all these prospects but how many come up to the premier league and are truly ready to perform at the highest level straight away? Most of them take a season or two and frankly, we don’t have that time now.

  4. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 9:36am

    Morning Kt, I didn’t realise his brother is at Ajax and his cousin is at the Chavs – he is already making a massive impression for his country, we could have a gem here. Shame the competition isn’t televised so we could see him and the others in action…

    Hi Will, don’t worry, those we need for the here and now will be here in the summer, then we can talk about them ๐Ÿ˜‰

  5. Will

    May 5, 2011 at 9:38am

    I see the Jones boy at Blackburn is making noises about us, problem is, he is 19 and again, inexperienced. We need players in the 25 – 28 age group who have done it at the highest level.

  6. KM

    May 5, 2011 at 9:48am

    Ryo has had a v.good debut in the Dutch league.

    However I believe he needs more time, maybe another season at Feyennord to fine tune his game and he needs to bulk up…too slight for the EPL.

    He’s at least 2/3 years from playing for our 1st team. He can beat a man, has gr8 pace. He’s lacking that final ball into the box to the striker. If he gets that right he’l be a hell of a player.

    What’s amazing is that he went straight from a schoolboy team to Feyennord!!!! He has impressed the club…..management and supporters love him.

    But boy he has talent..love his playing style. Really want him to play for Japan in the Copa America. I thought Japan were a really good side in the World Cup and they’r going to have an amazing team in the nxt world cup with players like Honda/Kagawa/Miyachi ;-).

  7. KM

    May 5, 2011 at 9:54am

    How good is Jones? Tbh I havenโ€™t been following Blackburn much (does anyone?)

    I really believe that we need 1 CB this summer. He has to a beast like Cahill. Like I said before we need an English CB to instill some grit and spirit in this side.

    However a lot of other teams are now circling around Cahill โ€“ Lโ€™pool & Man City. However heโ€™d be a fool to go to City for the money because he would struggle to get a game.

    Lโ€™pool arenโ€™t going to be in the Champions League so we are the right choice but we need to go for him.

    I havenโ€™t enough of Sakho to praise/recommend him. But I believe we need Cahill.

    Verminator is fit I believe. Heโ€™l be a welcome addition to our defence. I wonder who drops out? Kozzer/JD?

  8. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 9:55am

    Thing is Will, Wenger will always look to the youth players as well – that’s all well and good IF if addresses the experience needed too, we can only wait until the summer to see what happens.

  9. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 9:57am

    Hi KM, good comment.

    I have heard/read suggestions that he will be granted his visa, if that happens I can see Wenger loaning him out it the Championship to gain experience and get used to the English game.

    He is certainly an exciting player though and doing really well where he is…

  10. KM

    May 5, 2011 at 10:01am


    whats your opinion on Jones?

    How good is he?

    Cahill or Jones?

  11. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 10:02am

    Cahill for me KM

    We have Bartley next in line for his chance…

  12. Will

    May 5, 2011 at 10:03am

    This is true Rico.

    The kid does sound good, I am not too sure about Ryo and his pace, in the video’s I have seen of him, he never blasts past players.

  13. Will

    May 5, 2011 at 10:05am

    I agree, Cahill.Age and experience.

  14. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 10:05am

    I thought he was nearly as quick at Theo Will??

  15. KM

    May 5, 2011 at 10:07am


    yes a season in the Championship would do him a world of good, because in this division you have little time on the ball and if you hang on to it for too long you’re going to get fouled and the referees in the British Isles are not as stern as they are in Europe.

    On a side note, I tried to watch the Championship for about a month. I must say the quality of football was horrendous. The ball was always in the air, long balls/hoof it up/kick and rush…pretty awful stuff really. Also so many rough tackles it was unbelievable. But one season here and it’d definately make a man out of a young player ๐Ÿ˜‰

  16. Will

    May 5, 2011 at 10:13am

    Not on the youtube vids I have seen Rico.

  17. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 10:15am

    Km, some of it is good, Norwich and Reading play pretty good football and QPR – a lot though is dire… ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Send him to Bolton, that’ll toughen him up …

  18. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 10:16am

    10.4 seconds for 100 metres i think i read Will, I don’t trust YouTube vid’s on players if i’m honest, nevre really shows the true picture…

  19. Will

    May 5, 2011 at 10:26am

    Then that is quick, it seems to me that he never blasts past people like Henry did and Theo does.

  20. abbi

    May 5, 2011 at 10:27am

    give ryo bolton or everton as a loan becoz english is hard more than holland league

  21. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 10:35am

    From Wikki – He has been clocked running 100 metres in 10.84 seconds.

    Slighty slower Will ๐Ÿ˜‰

  22. K-TR7

    May 5, 2011 at 10:36am

    The mancs are in their 3rd CL final in 4 years…you’d think a team containing cesc/rvp/nasri/jack/AA would be the one with such a record not one having fletcher/anderson/carrick/park/Gibson.its really not rocket science;we have quality and lots of it but we need more grafters.red nose sure does know how to mix and match his players.

  23. Will

    May 5, 2011 at 10:37am

    Pretty quick then.

  24. K-TR7

    May 5, 2011 at 10:42am

    We really need to step it up both domestically and in Europe.Silvio Berlusconi has said they are building a team (AC Milan) to win the CL next year.Bayern aren’t resting on their laurels either.red nose has said he’ll buy 3 players.pool/chavs/city/spuds will spend.we have to follow suit.its not right that a club of our stature has won f*ck all in Europe.

  25. Will

    May 5, 2011 at 10:42am

    I was thinking that KT, this has to be the worst Man Utd team for over a decade.

  26. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 10:44am

    hi abbi, great minds….

    Kt, we need a fletcher and park kind of players.. but better …

    carrick is rubbish…

  27. K-TR7

    May 5, 2011 at 10:51am

    How the hell does red nose do it?we outplayed their best team with ramsey and jack in midfield but they are in the final but we aren’t.bar rooney,nani and their entire defence they aren’t that spectacular.

  28. K-TR7

    May 5, 2011 at 10:52am

    To gain respect in Europe we must start winning CL titles.

  29. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 11:03am

    Kt, For me personally, i would prefer us to win the PL and FA Cup again, Rule the country which the league is in, then Europe will come…

  30. KM

    May 5, 2011 at 11:04am


    Re. Miyachi

    Although Walcott is faster, Miyachi has got very good dribbling skills and is a natural winger. Walcott for me is a striker – he’s got the pace and is lethal!

  31. Will

    May 5, 2011 at 11:15am

    So if we can get JJ’s favourite player – Hazard and add that to Ryo and Theo with Rvp, Nasri, Jack and Cesc’s passing ability. We should look good going forward.

  32. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 11:17am

    Walcott is a striker for me too KM, and I look forward to the day when wenger plays him there, he has just started to bring himself off from the wing and getting into the area and its already paying off…

    He;s taking players with him and freeing up others, like Ramsay against the Mancs…

  33. Will

    May 5, 2011 at 11:24am

    I see the media are protecting the thugs again.

    Stoke Cityโ€™s Ryan Shawcross has stressed that any negative reaction from Arsenal fans still angry about the leg breaking challenge which ruled Aaron Ramsey out for a year will not deter him for performing on the pitch this Saturday.

    The centre-back has already faced the Gunners at the Emirates since the incident in early 2010 and insists that he is fully focused on maintaining the Potters good run of form ahead of a the FA Cup final on 14th May.

    Reflecting on his treatment in North London, Shawcross told The Sun:

    “I got booed and abused when I went there and it didn’t really affect my game.

    “If anything, it spurred me on to play better. I’m sure I’ll get more of the same this time but I’ll be able to deal with it.

    “Our fans and players love putting one over on Arsenal. There’s a bit of a rivalry there because of past games, and the fans will be as loud as they always are when Arsenal come to the Britannia.

    “We want to put on another good performance and we look at it as a game we can win.”

    To add extra intrigue to a usually feisty battle, Aaron Ramsey is being tipped to retain his place in the Arsenal starting line-up having scored the decisive goal against Manchester United last Sunday. The Welsh international looks set to continue in place of Cesc Fabregas who is struggling to recover from a thigh problem.

  34. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 11:37am

    Will, I saw the Shawcross articles and i’m staying away from them as i hope our team will too – best thing the team can do is answer his silly stuff on the pitch on sunday and come away with three points…

    The squad trimming won’t really make a lot of difference will it? We’ll still have 50 odd reserves/youth to call on, all who don’t need to be named as they are under 21…

    Mind you, I look forward to a few world stars being signed ๐Ÿ˜‰

  35. Will

    May 5, 2011 at 11:40am

    I can see Kroenke doing it. We have far too many players who are plainly not good enough.

    I think we should give Shawcross the silent treatment when he gets the ball.

  36. KM

    May 5, 2011 at 11:59am

    Yes, these thugs – Shawcross/pulis etc are always been praised/sheltered by the media because they are one of their ‘own’.

    I really despise teams who play negative football and the managers that practice it.

  37. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 12:00pm

    Agree with both bits there Will but the away fans are usually right behind us, you just know he will be booed and loudly……

  38. KM

    May 5, 2011 at 12:02pm

    Re. the squad trimming

    I think that needs to be done big time.

  39. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 12:06pm

    KM, don’t know if you have been reading HH for a while, but most have said the same as you – we have far too many players who will just never make it, they have been vegging in the reserves too long or just on ‘another loan’ in hope.

    Not only will it benefit us, it will benefit the players too, they should be looking for regular first team football…

  40. Lee

    May 5, 2011 at 12:16pm

    Afternoon all, talk on NN, Arsenal lining up Nasri replacement….lazy journalism or something in it??

  41. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 12:32pm

    Hi Lee,

    it’s probably a replacement for the Stoke game, he’s injured ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜‰

  42. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 12:39pm

    That Willian story comes from the player i think Lee, there was a story about how is supposed to have said that denilson has been trying to persuade him to join us…

    Its more likely to be a replacement for Denilson ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Not that i believe there is any truth whatsoever in it…

  43. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 12:44pm

    Dog walk time, back in a while…

  44. Joaquim Moreira

    May 5, 2011 at 1:25pm

    from a daily sport’s newspaper:
    Arsenal, is attentive to the Brazilian midfielder Willian Shakhtar Donetsk and can move for his signature if Samir Nasri left the team at season’s end.
    The French international has several interested in your football. There is talk of big clubs like Inter Milan, Barcelona and Chelsea.

  45. Joaquim Moreira

    May 5, 2011 at 1:28pm

    and more from the some newspaper:
    Fabregas is a priority for Real Madrid
    Jose Mourinho is already preparing the next season with Real Madrid and is now a big target: Cesc Fabregas.
    The English press today announces that Real Madrid would be willing to pay 40 million euros for the Arsenal captain.
    It can be a struggle for two in Spain to buy the midfielder since the Barcelona repeatedly shown interest in Fabregas.

  46. Will

    May 5, 2011 at 2:21pm

    JM, can you see Cesc going to Madrid?

  47. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 2:27pm

    Afternoon guys…

    Jose can dream on, doesn’t matter how much they offer, Cesc won’t go there….

  48. K-TR7

    May 5, 2011 at 2:32pm

    Madrid are in the final stages of signing Nuri Sahin.fabregas was never an option for them.

  49. allezkev

    May 5, 2011 at 2:32pm

    Afternoon Gooners
    Re: JM @ 1.25pm, ‘There is talk of big clubs like Inter, Barca & Chelsea’ etc etc. Does that mean that Arsenal are no longer seen as a ‘big club’ ???

  50. allezkev

    May 5, 2011 at 2:34pm

    That’s what you get for acting like a small/feeder club for 6 years…

  51. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 2:46pm

    Hi kev, you know what the media are like, they hate us ๐Ÿ˜‰

  52. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 2:49pm

    Kt, we are in the stages of offering a deal to a 14 year old, Charly Musonda ๐Ÿ˜‰

  53. Lee

    May 5, 2011 at 3:02pm

    Kev, I really hope we don’t p1ss about in the transfer mkt,get em in/out early doors!!

  54. K-TR7

    May 5, 2011 at 3:10pm

    Hi lee.lets hope the same…by the way when do we expect when Wenger will start claiming Tv and ramsey are like new signings?i’ve got dibs on August 31st.

  55. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 3:24pm

    Lee, def the in’s early, then it will make some of the players think about their own chances, even some new 14 year old should be enough for Denilson to know his days are numbered ๐Ÿ˜‰

  56. Joaquim Moreira

    May 5, 2011 at 3:25pm

    It’s a little more of the “war”between Barcelona and Madrid!
    For the media, a great club, is one that has money and win titles … losing or even going shopping. Madrid had not won anything for years but was always considered a big club (that is, in fact);Juventus, the years that gains nothing and had to play in 2nd division from other causes, too; most European media, don’t know what was Chelsea before Abram, but the power of money has become much stronger.
    There will be a lot of speculation but the crisis is widespread. And the crisis is also of assistance, sponsorship, merchandising …
    Wait and see. The newspapers also have to sell and launch sensationalist headlines.
    Today, the most important are the semi-finals of the League Europe. :-)

  57. Lee

    May 5, 2011 at 3:27pm

    KT, the writing is on the wall…..if you guys/gals had to pick 2 players, who would they be? Benzema & Cahill here…

  58. Will

    May 5, 2011 at 3:37pm

    You are right JM, it annoys me when Chelsea are considered a big club, they are a rich one, not a big one.

    Benzema and Buffon.

  59. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 3:38pm

    Hi JM,

    i think you are right about the newspapers and what better for the Spanish ones to report about, just another ‘war or words’ for Real and Barca….

    Pressure is on Real Madrid and on Jose, worse managers have been sacked for achieving more….

  60. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 3:38pm

    Cahill and Drogba for me Lee :)

  61. Lee

    May 5, 2011 at 3:41pm

    Rich owner doesn’t mean big club….p1sses me off!

  62. K-TR7

    May 5, 2011 at 3:44pm

    Kompany and Hazard.

  63. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 3:45pm

    Lee, don’t let it all get to you, it’s not worth it, our club history etc is worth more and makes us a big club….

    Now we just need a few big signings, not price wise, but attitude, experience and committment wise…

  64. Lee

    May 5, 2011 at 3:50pm

    If Abramovitch pulled the plug they’d be playing over hackney marshes, if they were lucky!!

  65. K-TR7

    May 5, 2011 at 3:50pm

    Chelsea are no bigger than the tiny totts.

  66. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 3:55pm

    And the Tiny Totts are TINY… :)

    They could Lee and that’s now what will worry us about Stan, except The Russian will be ready to pounce

  67. Will

    May 5, 2011 at 4:06pm

    Seems like the Russian has bought 5 more shares.

  68. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 4:23pm

    Will, i’ll give it two years, then he’ll take over….

  69. allezkev

    May 5, 2011 at 6:33pm

    Evening Gooners
    2 years Rico, you really think that Stan will sell-out? Can you imagine the instability….

  70. allezkev

    May 5, 2011 at 6:36pm

    I’m with you Lee, Wenger needs to get his finger out, do his business, or most of it, early so we’re nice and settled going into pre-season.

  71. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 6:40pm

    hi kev, the cynic in me thinks he is in it to make monet, i think the russian knows that too and thats why he didn’t sell his shares….

  72. kelsey

    May 5, 2011 at 6:40pm

    hello rico and all.

    Joaquim Moreira says:
    May 5, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    and more from the some newspaper:
    Fabregas is a priority for Real Madrid
    Jose Mourinho is already preparing the next season with Real Madrid and is now a big target: Cesc Fabregas.
    The English press today announces that Real Madrid would be willing to pay 40 million euros for the Arsenal captain.
    It can be a struggle for two in Spain to buy the midfielder since the Barcelona repeatedly shown interest in Fabregas.

    Well according to my source this is correct and that are two further bids on the table from Barca and Inter. This has been on going since the week before Danny Fizman died.Not saying Cesc will go this summer (it’s all about valuation by Arsenal) but it looks extremely likely and personally I would rather it happened this Summer than next year.

    rico, posters that you know can verify what i have just posted :)

  73. K-TR7

    May 5, 2011 at 6:40pm

    Evening all.i don’t see Usmanov leaving any time soon…

  74. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 6:41pm

    monet = money, of course, he’s not after a picture ๐Ÿ˜‰

  75. kelsey

    May 5, 2011 at 6:44pm

    Oh,Nasri isn’t leaving in fact he might relish the fact if cesc left.

  76. allezkev

    May 5, 2011 at 6:44pm

    I know where your coming from Rico. But Fiszmzn wasn’t a mug, why would he sell to Stan if he suspected SK was just in it to make a killing. likewise Lady Nina, who could have sold to Ursmanov and got more for her shares. These are serious Business people, would they be so naive? Not saying your wrong, just being devil’s advocat etc…

  77. kelsey

    May 5, 2011 at 6:45pm

    If Stan got his 90% there is absolutely nothing to stop him sellinng to the Russian.hopefully this won’t happen, but it’s a possibility.

  78. GunnerPete

    May 5, 2011 at 6:47pm

    We must sell Cesc now for as much as we can get (a) because his heart has not been at AFC for a season and (b) because he has shown a tendancy to hamstring out from Dec onwards. With the money we get buy Benzema and Chellelini from Juve. The by adding Frimpong and Kocielny to DMF we have a great future.

  79. GunnerPete

    May 5, 2011 at 6:49pm

    Sorry one other caviet….we must have the guts to clear out the failures by June….ie; Denilson, Diaby, Almunia, Clichy, Eboue, Squillaci, Rosicky, Bentner. With this lot sold we have a big increase in buying money and we save a fortune in wages…..JOB DONE!

  80. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 6:54pm

    monet = money, of course, he’s not after a picture ;);)

  81. allezkev

    May 5, 2011 at 6:55pm

    I keep on hearing about ‘clear outs’, and i agree, but i’ll believe it when i see it. I just have this nagging thought in the back of my mind that come August, we’re gonna see most of the old failures still in the team photo. Hope i’m wrong…

  82. allezkev

    May 5, 2011 at 6:56pm

    Monet Monet Monet……

  83. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 6:56pm

    Hi kelsey, good to see you, i thought the martians had been in spain ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I’m kind of with the same view, if he’s going let the deal be done and let’s move on…

  84. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 6:58pm

    kev, i think DF had one of two choices, Stan or the Russian, out the two, Stan was a better option – but, I just have this feeling the big man from russia is biding his time, otherwise why not just sell up and go find another venture…

  85. kelsey

    May 5, 2011 at 6:59pm

    I never guess who we may buy but i expect more to leave than come in, perhaps one or two additions.

    No martians rico, just been popping extra pills ๐Ÿ˜‰

  86. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 7:02pm

    And, who really knows what another person is all about, people are easily fooled and peapole can easily fool…

    Its a cruel old world, especially when money is involved, Stan isn’t exactly the richest man in the world…

    I hope you are right kev as DF was an Arsenal man, just a shame his family didn’t want to carry it on….

  87. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 7:43pm

    ๐Ÿ˜† kelsey…

    i also believe we will lose a few of the dead wood, i’m going for 3 in :) but a good 3, not squilli’s :)

  88. rico

    May 5, 2011 at 8:24pm

    Talking of out’s, i am off for the day, til tomorrow all, nighty night….


  89. dino

    May 5, 2011 at 9:09pm

    next cristiano ronaldo from japan.hope to see him next year at arsenal

  90. Joaquim Moreira

    May 5, 2011 at 11:35pm

    Well, Porto – Braga, final Europe League cup.
    Great ! :-)

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    Morning kelsey,

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