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Cesc crocked, Good, now we can get on with our game!!

Yep, I mean it, that’s just how I feel about Cesc Fabregas

Take a look at his body language; his slowness during a game, his  half-hearted free kicks and wayward shots, his constant fouling as if he wants a red card just to get a ban and he so often ‘demands’ the ball despite being in a position which gains no advantage half the time.

I think his whole ‘couldn’t care attitude’ is rubbing off on others around him. A captain leads and the way he ‘appears’ on the pitch can affect a team negatively equally as much as it can positively.

On the other hand, Nasri, who is playing some his best football we have seen him play in the red and white can fill the creative role and lead with the captains’ armband on. Then we have Wilshere ready and Ramsey coming back. Rosicky has all the skills to play in that role too, in fact we have many and the way Cesc is playing, I’m sure they could do a better job too!

I know it’s been said before but Cesc couldn’t even come out and speak about the team’s performance after the latest poor performances but he could to satisfy the Spanish fans after Spains drubbing by Portugal and he’s not even their captain. Denilson may not be every fans favourite but at least he’s apologised for the defeat on Tuesday…

What’s that all about? Certainly doesn’t show loyalty to the club that pays his wages does it? The same club that made him who he is today.

For me Cesc Fabregas was more of a man when he was still a boy and the love I had for him is fading fast….

When did our captain last put in a proper captains performance? Man City away maybe??

Yesterday I read that Inter Milan have put funds by to bid for Fabregas in January, I read it was £42 Million pounds. Well if that’s true I am glad, we could accept that money or even better, start a bidding war. I know Cesc only wants Barcelona, well I don’t care what he wants, if he can’t put a good shift in for us, lets sell him and to the highest bidder, whoever that maybe…

I also wonder if a deal is already in place for him to go to Barca next summer, not that I have evidence to support this and I know Barca are broke but I think back to the Ronaldo to Madrid saga and just envisage it happening all over again with Cesc.  

Maybe that’s why Cesc doesn’t want to put his body on the line for us anymore and could that also be the reason Wenger risks him knowing he’s not completely fit? I don’t know the answer, I wish I did.

Either way,  playing him right now is detrimental to this current side.

I honestly believed Cesc when he said he was focussed on Arsenal and wanted to win silverware with us but right now I’m struggling to continue my belief in him. If I’m totally wrong, then I hope Wenger lets him get 100% fit before he returns and doesn’ ‘risk’ him again!!

We all want the ‘Old Wenger’ back, well we need the ‘Old Cesc’ back too.

For now though, I think we are about to see a different Arsenal and get our season right back on track!

But I know you won’t agree, so best get praying for this predicted snow to fall and fall heavily. Maybe then all the games will be postponed until we get all our unfit players back… ;)

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125 Responses to Cesc crocked, Good, now we can get on with our game!!

  1. rico says:

    Morning all,

    Kelsey asked me to re-post his earlier comments…

    kelsey says:
    November 25, 2010 at 7:37 am

    Morning all,
    Well I know rico is up, as we have similar clocks .

    More disturbing news about Cesc.He now has a hamstring problem on his left leg, last season it was his right and this has now been going on for 18 months.
    When the boss says he is out for 3 weeks,read at least until January, and there is no guarantee that this problem will go away.
    Maybe that is the real reason that he just doesn’t look happy,but that still doesn’t explain why he played on tuesaday.I just can’t fathom it out.Do you risk him so that the injury gets worse, because that is what happened.
    Vermaelen is also out long term
    Ramsey,is back playing,but he will need a good couple of months to recover, and now the joker of the pack,,Eboue has knee ligament injurt,though it has not been established how long he will be out for.

    Diaby and RVP can never string a decent run of games together and even Walcott has had major surgery twice,and although still young,he never gets a decent run of games.

    Rosicky, a player many thought was unfortunately finished,is nowhere near the player he was, and is just a clone of many others and I would argue he doesn’t bring much influence to a game,when needed.

    With Arshavin you get what you see, but though I like him and he has immense skill,he will never give you a full 90 minutes, and often the last twenty minutes he is the one who could pass a ball like a needle in haystack, but he is either completely knackered or more likely he will have been subbed.

    Kos and Squilli still need time to bed in, but IMO they are both not of the highest quality and Djourou though starting to play better wouldn’t be in the team if everyone was fit.

    These I believe are facts,and not meant to be a downer on the team.I am worried.

    I say all this as i have major concerns about the strength of squad at this moment of time with big games coming up until the end of the year thick and fast.

    All in all the squad depth has been depleted and yet lansbury is allowed to go out on loan and there is talk of JET doing the same

  2. rico says:

    kelsey says:
    November 25, 2010 at 7:46 am

    Sorry my spelling is shite,but when some argue that we are only 2 points off the top,I maintain that is a false assumption.United haven’t lost though not playing well, Chelsea may suffer with the loss of key players,but they have more experience and mental strength and not one but two strikers,which in the sense of the word we don’t have.
    city will improve and we need to raise confidence pretty quickly before we fall further behind.
    If we win or lose a number of consecitive games we are up and then down, but every time we play, the first question i ask myself is which team will turn up on the day, really motivated and putting their stamp on the game, or just stroll onto the pitch seemingly without hunger.Do you agree ?

  3. rico says:

    kelsey says:
    November 25, 2010 at 8:08 am

    I seem to be having a rant on my own this morning,but there is something else which i pointed out elsewhere last week.

    In the 83 games played at home at The Grove compared to the last 83 at Highbury (all in the PL) we have only conceded 5 more yet have scored 29 less.

    So in conclusion it is attack that is letting us down more than the defence.

  4. W.A.T.H says:

    Interesting post Rico, Some very good and valid points there as well from Kelsey…! Am sure the above will rustle the rose tinted brigade and the AKB’s…! Again nothing thats said isn’t actually a fair opinion of whats going on..!

  5. rico says:

    Morning WATH

    I just think playing Cesc right now when he’s clearly unfit is daft. Now he’s out for another long stretch so why does he keep getting risked when he’s clearly not right?

    My hunch could very well be a load of rubbish and i’m sure many will tell me that today, but Saturadys game will be the only time when we will see if i’m not far off the mark….

  6. rico says:

    Of course I truly hope my view about him ‘already at barca’ is wrong and he stays a long while, but his body language isn’t that of a player who loves playing for Arsenal….

  7. rico says:

    At least now Wenger will have to rest him and rest him proper I hope…

  8. W.A.T.H says:

    He def isn’t the Cesc of old and his attitude sat when he walked off was crap as I pointed out on monday. Something not right at all playing in a red shirt with his head in a maroon one already..!

  9. Rennie says:

    Rico U’re being too harsh on the boy… I kno he’s not been playin’ at his best & that he clearly wants to be in Barca. But U’ve totally omitted to mention ’bout his Hamstring injuries. Believe me it’s very tough to go 100% into anything with your feet if U have the niggle @ the back of yo mind that yo hammy’s gonna tighten up any moment..

    Wenger’s to blame for risking him @ Braga when he could have taken Song, VanPersie & AA instead

  10. W.A.T.H says:

    Rennie, your half right about the hammies but thats also up 2 Cesc to say boss I’m not right let me rest, a player knows when he’s not right and Cesc knows AW is desperate for him to be back to his best but at present he got him merely going through the motions for what ever reason.

  11. rico says:

    Rennie, but i think if he’s not fit, wenger shouldn’t play him and he should sy, oi, i’m not fit boss… and he shouldn’t be playing for spain either….

    he cant have it both ways Rennie..

  12. kelsey says:

    Well, I can’t really add much to what i have said, but I don’t entirely agree with you rico.

    He will only go to barca, and in any case he is under a long term contract and even at 26 or so they would still benefit from him enormously.
    I think the injury problem which is re occuring to his hamstrings is a worry,but he needs a rest.I would imagine that playing him at Braga was a HUGE mistake and has probably prolonged the time he will be absent from the team.

    Barca aren’t broke,they just don’t have ready cash or in other words a poor cash flow problem.
    however do we want a player let alone our captain who is not committed to the club who pays his wages.I think not, so I must give him the benefit of the doubt that the injury not a move is playing on his mind.

    Thanks for reposting my earlier thoughts.

  13. rico says:

    No probs kelsey..

    Sadly contracts don’t really mean a lot these days, just means players don’t leave for free, i honestly hope his performances are down to injury alone but i can’t understand why he suddenly introduced the silly tackles to his game and the poor efforts on goal – i think torres is not firing for the dippers as he’s not happy and sadly i feel cesc is the same…

    trust me, i’m not just having a pop at cesc for the sake of it, i want so much to be wrong and we see the old cesc back in red and white…

  14. Rennie says:

    Rico I don’t think Cesc ever says NO to Wenger.. That’s the best & the worst thing about our captain. I mean if he had said ‘No’ when Wenger asker him to stay last summer then we won’t be having this debate now.

    He has already been rested a long while for the hammie injury in the season beginning & now he wants to get on with it. U can’t really fault a guy for saying ‘yes I wanna play’ just bcoz he thinks he might have a relapse of his injury – I’ve never believed him to be a Pussy! Isn’t it the Manager & his Medical team’s job to make a proper call here…

    Though in defense of both the player & his manager, his latest split is now in the other leg… some timing!

  15. adam says:

    Arsenal are quite clearly a club in turmoil. The team is not good enough and opinions vary as to what is required. I have my own ideas and they don’t differ too much from those of this posting. The club needs decisive action from the top. The ownership situation seems to be in limbo. Surely with a new owner and board Wenger would become more accountable for the situation. The biggest question is, it seems to me, is Arsene Wenger the man to take this club forward? Indeed, have we moved forward in the last 5 years to where we are legitimate contenders for football’s top prizes? The results against Spurs and Braga (to name but 2) are painful reality checks I think and emphasise how lax and casual the team has become under Wenger. The board absolutely must take a realistic view and ask the difficult questions to come up with what is right for the club and the fans and not what is expedient where Arsene is concerned. At the moment it all feels wrong to me.

  16. kelsey says:

    When you consider cesc is our longest serving player,yet only 23,it makes sense he should be honoured with the captaincy,but I don’t think he is the right choice, vermaelen would be the one for me, i honestly can’t think of anyone else, and with vermaelen injured long term we don’t really have any other real options.
    A few weeks back 9can’t remember the game) fabianski was bossing cesc in no uncertain terms where to stand at a dead ball situation or perhaps it was a corner.That shouldn’t happen.

  17. Michael Thomas 4 says:

    The tide is turning but will anyone have the nerve to sack Wenger?

    Everybody @ Arsenal, Wenger has had a say in their employment from the top (Gazidis who loves his vision!) to the bottom. He’s actually accomplished what Benitez failed to do @ Liverpool!

  18. rico says:

    Rennie, but he needs to look after himself too and should stand up and say something about his injury otherwise it could ruin the rest of his career..

    no doubt the other hammy has gone because his body can’t take the playing time but yes, you are right, our medical team should be directing him but they can only do that to a degree if he is honest with how he feels within himself…

  19. Goonerman says:

    I don’t agree on the attitude front I thunk he is unhappy because of the injury. But to have a half fit player put of the team and to replace him with fully fit one then the team should be raring to go!!

  20. kelsey says:

    adam,
    we all know about the restraints on spending due to the move and the “estate agents” saga, and the lack of money available and my take on it is that AW just wants to rebuild with a mixture of youth and experience and then let someone takeover and go forward with his ideas.i don’t believe there is any pressure on AW whatsoever to win anything, just to keep us in the top 4, which may be difficult this season.
    if we get taken over (which I am against) things may well pan out differently.

  21. Rennie says:

    ..hmmm I guess that’s another of those medical gaffes that seem to keep happening yr after ye @ Arsenal. It all started with Van Persie (right?), then Rosicky, guess its Cesc’s turn now after all those injury-free seasons b4!

  22. Erick says:

    Hallo Gunners am Cesc is a great player but with lots of pressure on him for heaven sake he is 23 lets be calm and give him time to heal. His fate is sealed Barca or Inter watever will be will be :-)

  23. derrick says:

    Finally!!!!!an article that has said what I have been saying all along!!!!Cesc needs to go. We need to win a trophy and he’s shite at the moment.We have 2 many players to take up the mantle from him

  24. Erick says:

    I am not Cesc :-) typo error

  25. W.A.T.H says:

    The restraints on spending kelsey are now gone the choice to spend is purely Wengers and his choice is not to spend……!

  26. rico says:

    adam, it feels very wrong to me too….

  27. rico says:

    MT, i don’t wish for wenger to be sacked, i’d prefer to see him spend some money on 2/3 ready made strong players to take us up a gear…

  28. adam says:

    Kelsey. Completely agree. But when I watch this team and see them making the same mistakes week in week out, season in and season out I see why they are not equipped to win. I doubt whether the next manager will move forward with AW’s ideas. Arsene’s notion of pure football is certainly an attractive proposition but the PL these days has very, very few creative players but a lot of big athletes who play largely long-ball. I hate it, but it’s the reality. I also don’t believe that Arsene is anywhere near ruthless enough. Clichy has cost us at least 2 or 3 games a season for the past 3 years yet he knows that he is first choice every week. To make mistakes is human and completely forgivable but to make the same one over and over is just dumb. For me the team and squad are not good enough. When you see a big lump like Bendtner strolling around on the half-way line making square 5 yard passes and then lumbering forward at a stroll while moaning in the press that he might move on if he doesn’t start more games I say that’s a fair sign that some attitudes are wrong.

  29. rico says:

    Morning Erick, yes what will be will be and none of us will change that, i just want our old captain back, the one that lead by example and made us tick.. :)

  30. rico says:

    kelsey, if we get taken over if the buyer is a winner, he/she wouldn’t put up with what we are going through i am sure, wenger would be told to spend the money available…

  31. Erick says:

    Aw has not helped either by not buying players to help Cesc

  32. rico says:

    hi derrick, he’s off form but maybe this rest will finally sort him out, in the meantime, my feelings are the weight will be lifted from the others and hopefully against villa we will prove that…

  33. rico says:

    Very true Erick, a WC & Euro winner deserves better, 3 players, thats all we need

  34. Rennie says:

    Do ya have specific names on the back of the 3 that U’ve mentioned Rico?

  35. rico says:

    Rennie, no i don’t and to be honest even if i did we all know wenger wouldn’t pay what it would cost..

    cahill, and the german with the long name would be a good starter though ;)

  36. rico says:

    Rennie, i sure would have the names if i had a few scouts accross the world as wenger does… :)

  37. Rennie says:

    I’ve always thought M.Fellaini would look great in our midfield.. We need a bigger Afro than Denilson’s, if U kno what I mean

  38. kelsey says:

    Yes we do have money now, but the BoD decided to pay off a lump sum yet Wenger spent about 17 million on AA and about 13/14 million on Sqilli and kos who are both yet to prove themselves.

    For that budget there are other proven players in the Pl that were available.Given (before he went to city0 parker, even bellamy.

    i do agree that clichy more and mor is the weak link.Against spurs,bale got no joy from Sagna but when he switched flanks it was a whole different ball game.

    more and more teams know how to play us and as has been said many times before we have only one way of playing and it doesn’t work as much as it used to,together with the fact that we don’t have the players we had 4 or 5 years ago.

    Jack will be a great player,but he is already playing too much for his age, and with cesc injured it will take it’s toll on him.

  39. rico says:

    Ha ha Rennie re the afro…

  40. rico says:

    kelsey, absolutely, while others change tactics, wenger doesn’t react quick enough, if sometimes at all…

    he does as you say spend money in a strange way, cahill is available for 15M in Jan, will wenger go for it? a ready made defender with EPL experience…

    I doubt it but i sure as heck wish he would…

  41. kelsey says:

    back later, have a game this afternoon (in the sun) :)

  42. rico says:

    I’m back in a bit, out in the cold with the woofas… good luck kelsey…

  43. rico says:

    cesc out for two weeks….

  44. Rennie says:

    I have a gut feeling G.Cahill’s going to Chelsea in Jan as cover 4 JTerryble.. He could probably end up being the diff in the title race – actually snooze may be more appropriate with how things have gone so far – & we’ll all be cussin’ Wenger in Apr.. (I really hope not)

  45. king gooner says:

    if we had a proper defense everyone would see the team we can become-to this end,i would like to see the return of a certain”MARTIN KEOWN”b4 it’s too late-he would wipe the floor with the shirkers & organise them into a coherent defensive machine-wenger needs someone to kick ass-he’s THE MAN!!

  46. Red Arse says:

    Afternoon Rico, (when you get back) afternoon all you good people and Wath! :-)

    Interesting comments.

    I thought Cesc should have gone in the Summer and said so at the time. Nothing good comes of forcing someone to stay against their will.

    Now I feel that even more so, but for a different reason. Do you recall how Michael Owen was a brilliant striker before his hamstrings started playiny up? Once that problem became chronic, he quickly lost his pace and his ability. Sad but true.

    Well I think the same thing is going to happen to Cesc and because of that and his desire to go to Barca, we should get shot asap, in my opinion.

  47. Red Arse says:

    King Gooner,

    I agree. However I understand that when Keown worked for AW previously, he fell out with certain players who did not like his training methods, blah, blah, and instead of backing him AW let him go. (Rumour admittedly)

    Another, we have previously discussed on here, is Stevie Bould. He already looks after the youth team and would be brilliant coaching the first team defence. Chances of that happening? Slim or none!

  48. Rennie says:

    Morn’ Red! I guess Bould will get his chance in due time.. as for now Pat being the faithful pup of Arsene will continue doing his manual labour (by that I mean running the exercises, blowing the whistle, etc.) Don’t think Wenger ever listens to any suggestions from him

    As for letting Cesc go, I kno that it’s detrimental to keep an unwilling player.. But we can’t let him leave before we have an immediate replacement.. Sammy can’T take up Cesc’s role, he’s a brilliant talent in his own right but cannot do what Cesc does in the middle – threadin passes thu the eye o’ a needle. Maybe Rambo can step up but even he needs a season or 2!

  49. Red Arse says:

    Rennie,

    I was thinking AW could get Hazard pretty pronto (January)as he will have Cesc’s trf fee in the Summer to pay for him, if necessary.

    What we also need, sorry for repeating myself, is an Ian Wright replacement. Someone cocky and greedy for goals, just like Wrighty! :-)

  50. Rennie says:

    Hazard’s great will contribute to goals with his trickery, but he’s not Cesc’s natural replacement. The only midfielders @ his level right now are – the one already @ Barca Xavi, Sneijder, and the one that we let slip last season Ozil!

    & we desperately need a striker in Wrighty’s mold!!!

  51. Rennie says:

    Hehe.. did anybody catch this – “Tottenham Boss Harry Redknapp Compares William Gallas To Bobby Moore” – the things certain morons say!!!

  52. rico says:

    Rennie, but Bobby Moore was white :P

  53. rico says:

    Afternoon RA and King and anyone else i’ve missed ;)

    Bould for me too with Keown on board aswell, then have Dennis Bergkamp to keep the forwards in check ….

  54. Rennie says:

    Right!!! That’s bout the only diff. that ol’ Twitch seees… He squanders every bit (eeenie tinnny bit) of respect that he earns in the weekend by saying shite like this in the week

  55. rico says:

    Rennie, i dont listen to him really, one win over us and suddenly they are going to win the CL.. they can dream…

  56. rico says:

    Got to pop off again, back later

  57. Rennie says:

    They sure can dream big! One thing’s for sure, teams are beginning to show fear against them. Werder looked pretty frightened last night! But I take heart with the fact that their defense will implode any moment now ……… there can ya hear it

  58. T-buzz says:

    Afternoon all,

    I really miss the Highbury days, we won games we were meant to win, we had solid players in every department (Vierra, adams, Dixon, TH14, Winterburn, Overmars, Pires, DB10, Gilberto, Wrightie, endless list goes on)that you have every confidence will get the job done. I can’t say the same about most of the players in this current squad or the ones we’ve had for the past few years since moving to the Emirates.
    We may be 2 points behind the Chavs and Mancs but we have not been consistent. We have a captain who I feel has’nt been his best at all this season, dodgy goalies, one striker scoring and centre defence needs serious attention!! We have a long way to go before we start winning trophies again and I am fast losing confidence in Wenger and his policies.
    Apologies, had to get that off my hairy chest… :(

  59. Mukhtar sada says:

    You’ve said it all truth is always a bitter,ñ u forget 2 mention one player dat has no business at Arsenal dat’s Arshavin.

  60. T-buzz says:

    Andrei just needs a proper kick up the Arseshavin, he’s still a talented player IMO especially when he’s on form

  61. T-buzz says:

    Very quiet in here today….
    I can even see thumbleweed! :roll:

  62. Red Arse says:

    T-Buzz,

    I think your hairy chest has frightened everyone away! :roll:

    I had a girlfriend like that once, but at least she shaved her moustache occasionally! :-)

  63. kelsey says:

    RA,

    apparently we used to sit quite near to each other in the West Stand, but I don’t know your age,so it may well be a guess.

    i once had a girlfrien with one central bust and one in the same place on her back.Awful to look at,but lovely to dance with. :)

    I used to have a friday joke day on another blog some time ago,but they were a little more fruity than the one I mentioned.Rico will remember.

  64. T-buzz says:

    RA, you went out with a Yeti? You’re a braver man than I am! lol

  65. T-buzz says:

    LOL!!

  66. Red Arse says:

    Kelsey,

    She sounds as if she was a dromedary. Not good if she got the hump! :-)

  67. Red Arse says:

    T-Buzz,

    I could not afford to be choosy.

    I once fell in love with Felicity. It wasn’t a physical relationship, but her long lashes, soft velvety nose, and whiskers were adorable, and the way she langourously batted the flies with her tail, while gazing at me with her limpid, brown eyes was wonderful!

    And all she wanted in return was a handful of carrots!

    Those were the days. :-)

  68. rico says:

    Afternoon again, what a busy day….

    Did you win kelsey??

    Hi T-buzz

  69. K-TR7 says:

    Champions league winners 2010.

  70. Red Arse says:

    You are a tease Rico,

    Did Kelsey win, what? :-)

  71. kelsey says:

    Yes we won rico.

    We have the Malaga Cup starting on Saturday and Lloyds International are sponsoring it.So a busy week ahead. I will miss the villa game,(might not be a bad sign) as last time i missed a game we won 5-4 at Spurs.

  72. Red Arse says:

    Kelsey,

    I really feel sorry for you out there in all that warm sunshine.

    Ah what bliss it is to be here in the cold, snowy UK. (OK, I’m lying – bit like whistling in the dark) :-)

  73. kelsey says:

    Ah ha Red Arse.You would never guess ;)

  74. kelsey says:

    Red Arse,

    it is a an almighty decision to leave the country you were born and raised in, but we did it 10 years ago and don’t have any regrets.

  75. Red Arse says:

    Kelsey,

    I used to be captain of the Calahonda tiddlywinks team.

    Well there were only 4 of us …. obviously, and the winner bought the next round! Made the pain of losing to the girls easier to bear. :-)

  76. rico says:

    Hey KT, how you doing…

  77. rico says:

    Well done kelsey, lets hope you win on saturday and the team do too….

    RA, no, you will never guess ;)

  78. K-TR7 says:

    Boring day but rico am not cesc’s biggest fan but i think the injuries have impacted him more than you think.he loves playing and when things aren’t going well he seems sulky.don’t be too quick to judge him or else you may be left with eggs on your face…

  79. rico says:

    And theres me struggling to get my head round a move to Cornwall :lol:

    Talking of which, haven’t seen MikeB here for a while, wonder if he’s moved yet…

  80. Red Arse says:

    I used to have a pad in Calahonda, so Malaga was on the doorstep, so to speak.

    Loved the place. I went back last year after a 10 year gap and could not believe how much that coast had all changed.

    The changes that had happened in Puerto Banus and Estepona were particularly noticeable. I was thinking of upping sticks (again) and moving to Spain, because my work is all computerised nowadays, but decided with my travelling it wasn’t practicable.

    With the Euro likely to fall flat on it’s face, I may revisit that decision. In the meantime, you are a lucky so and so!

  81. rico says:

    i’ve judged him KT, that’s just how i feel, what really narks me is he can’t talk to his club fans about our form but can to the Spanish fans…

  82. rico says:

    All these things you have done RA, you must be 90 by now ;)

  83. Red Arse says:

    Rico,

    MikeB and Oliver would be an unbeatable pair of authors.

    Even if he has moved he could still log in from his new abode. Hope so anyway! :-)

  84. K-TR7 says:

    Hi RA.you would be an excellent writer making it a fab3…even Aw will have to listen.

  85. rico says:

    He’s probably just busy RA, either that or he’s really downhearted with the current goings on at Arsenal….

  86. rico says:

    KT, RA has gone on strike in the writing department :lol:

  87. Red Arse says:

    I don’t have any Romany blood Rico, but I am a restless soul and always feel the need for something different, or to move on. (although not as much or as often as I wanted, to be honest). :-)

    My parents were well travelled, for work reasons, and I saw a lot of the world with them too, of course!

    KT, frequent hamstring problems can turn a great player like Cesc into an ordinary one. We should sell him to his “own” club, where he wants to be, and have done with it.

  88. rico says:

    Just seen your Friday joke day reference kelsey, now some of jokes were so so funny – good times eh…..

  89. rico says:

    RA, so you managed to gloss over the age question… ;)

  90. Red Arse says:

    KT, Rico,

    I’m not on strike, its just that I do not have anything interesting to say, and I am such a fragile flower the fear of rejection makes my typing fingers stt sttt stickkk! :-)

    KT, I think you are the 3rd writing Musketeer! :-) I only mentioned the other two because they are not here to tell me to shut up. You are!! :-)

  91. K-TR7 says:

    Rico:alex song posted on twitter before braga game, ‘im looking forward to bombing forward aimlessly tonight.i leave defending to that c**t denilson’…that cracked me up!

  92. rico says:

    KT, I read that one too, i wonder if he really thinks so highly of Denilson ;)

  93. rico says:

    You fragile RA, yeah right, as for rejection, it could be worse, rejection twice :lol:

  94. Red Arse says:

    Rico,

    I am an open book! I give far more info than anyone in blogland!! :-)

    Kelsey might recognise me by description, which I have already given. 6’4″, 15 stone (OK probably 16 now) :-), straight, fair hair (ungroomed) and plug ugly! :roll:

    You will note, of course, I never ask anyone else for personal details, although I hear KT is extremely good looking and speaks Swahili! :-) Hii ni kweli KT?

  95. Red Arse says:

    Rico,

    I would not like to play you at poker! :-)

  96. K-TR7 says:

    RA am not that good.rico tricked me into writing…im like denilson in the eyes of those masters.maybe rico was punishing me for being a huge diaby fan.i write numbers and apart from you most people here go zzzzz on my posts and thats why i like it when you’re around…and speaking of numbers madrid conceded only 2 shots on target at the Bernabeu against milan and ajax.

  97. K-TR7 says:

    Ramsey has joined not’ham forest on loan…

  98. rico says:

    RA :lol: you do make me chuckle sometimes…..

  99. Red Arse says:

    KT, you are too modest about your writing! Seriously. And I know Rico thinks that too.

    You are absolutely right about Madrid, though I did not know the stats until you mentioned them, as usual, but it proves that a winning team has a great defence first and foremost!

  100. rico says:

    KT, i did not trick you into writing posts and I love reading them :( :(

  101. rico says:

    Ramsey, no, surely not, he and the club said he wouldn’t go on loan…. still, will be good for him, thats what Dudu should have done done…

  102. kelsey says:

    RA,

    rico knows what i look like.

    by your description we could do with you in goal ;)

  103. Red Arse says:

    Kelsey,

    Do you know Calahonda? There are those who say I only went there (18 months) because there was a naturist beach just across the road! :-) Did I see you there? :oops:

  104. K-TR7 says:

    RA&Rico stop flattering me!am not that good…

  105. rico says:

    I do kelsey ;)

  106. rico says:

    You can say what you like KT, you know all there is to know in Euro footie…. flattery doesn’t come into it, its fact :)

  107. kelsey says:

    They call Calahonda”Little England” it ain’t what it used to be. Naturist beach is now a refuge centre for the homeless and unemployed.

  108. K-TR7 says:

    RA madrid are really good at the moment.they are flying at the moment and still have kaka to come back from injury.özil has been an inspired buy.di maria has been excellent and is one of mou’s favourites.he spreads their play and i hope w.silva does make an instant impact as we really need a direct dribbler out wide not theo who comes inside most of the time.

  109. Red Arse says:

    Kelsey,

    Seems like it would still suit me, in the near future! :-)

    First ‘Frisco then NY, to complete outstandings, so in a couple of years we can play in the same team. Do you think there will be a place for an overweight, inelegant, sartorial distressed, ugly bug? :-)

  110. rico says:

    KT, do you know much about Wellington?

  111. kelsey says:

    It’s in New Zealand ;)

  112. Red Arse says:

    Rico,

    You wear it on your foot!

  113. kelsey says:

    Read arse.

    I give you one clue.

    We played a friendly international against Portugal two weeks ago in Elvira.

  114. Red Arse says:

    KT,

    Wapi wewe kusikia kuhusu Ramsey?

  115. K-TR7 says:

    Fununu zinaenea kwenye mtandao na zaonekana kuwa za kweli.yaonekana Aw anamtaka ramsey acheze mechi za kadhaa ili kumpa uzoefu kisha arudi mwezi wa januari.

  116. Red Arse says:

    Kelsey,

    At this time of the evening, the wine has been flowing, so the only game I think you could be playing is petanque!

    Am I right? :-)

    Got to go in a couple of minutes. Rico won’t help me with my cookery problems and KT has gone quiet!

  117. K-TR7 says:

    Rico i don’t know much about w.silva except that he is explosive and insane at dribbling.

  118. rico says:

    :lol: left myself open for those kelsey/RA

  119. K-TR7 says:

    RA Ramsey’s story is even on ESPN.

  120. Red Arse says:

    KT,

    I had a look and I did not see anything on the internet re Ramsey, but I trust your findings.

    (Your swahili pretty much wiped my knowledge out!!) :-)

    Anyway, good night all!!

  121. kelsey says:

    No RA.
    I see Wagner played for Bremen last night, i didn’t know he had been evicted.

  122. kelsey says:

    It’s all over the place about Ramsey,but it’s only until early January.

  123. rico says:

    Night RA…

  124. rico says:

    I’m heading off out too guys, catch up tomorrow, be good – nighty night….

  125. rico says:

    new post up

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