Gracious in defeat, not our Arsene!!

We all know the behaviour of our wiley old boss when we are beaten and it’s a side of his character that really dissapoints me. Remember the falling out with Pardew, the constant refusal to shake the hand of managers like Fat Sam, Mark Hughes and others after their sides have ‘got in our faces’ and nicked an undeserved defeat? Well for me it’s all a bit tedious.

A good sporting person is gracious in both victory and defeat and after all, as a manager, isn’t he the one who buys the players to make us winners?

As it stands right now, another transfer window has come and will soon go and right now we have a side that will continue to struggle against the ‘aggressive’ sides, the Bolton’s, Blackburn’s and Stokes of our league, not to mention when our defence has to look up and see the lumps like Drogba and Rooney heading towards them with the ground shaking underneath their feet.

So Arsene, if you don’t make right our defensive unit, surely it’s about time you accepted a few losses that could be heading our way and you deal with those losses graciously? I know he has now added two defenders but we lost four! Without adding a much better goal keeper and even another central defender we could still struggle. A great keeper will get us points, just as a goal scorer will but not in every game will we score six, we may even struggle to score one, it’s during those games that a keeper is worth his weight in gold….

Talking of gracious and as the Champions League draw takes place on Thursday at 5pm, look at a player who we once called ours, the Crozillian Eduardo. Victim of a horror tackle, all he wanted to do was play football again and play his football at Arsenal. Such is the demand of the Premier League he didn’t quite make it back to a level where his mental and physical ability would allow his ‘want’ to come true so he made a sensible decision in my mind and moved to FC Shakhtar Donetsk, hopefully a league that is less aggressive and eventually Eduardo will find happiness again in football, safe in the knowledge that a ‘Martin Taylor tackle’ will not come his way again.

The big thing about this move of Eduardo though is how he has been gracious in defeat, yes he is still playing the sport he loves, but he is no longer able to play for the club he fell in love with. He’s not bitter though, in fact totally the opposite.

All he said after his move was it was good for him as he needs to play football. He said he found it very difficult to leave Arsenal having settled in England and forming a good relationship with the fans, he loved the supporters and he knew they loved him, he loved the club and has many friends….

He doesn’t want to play against us again, he would find it too hard emotionally – I guess he won’t be looking to score a winner against us and then run the length of the pitch to rub salt into the wound of all the fans who will always love him…

No, Eduardo is too much of a gentleman to do that, he is too gracious. Gracious in the defeat he has suffered afer his horrific injury. The defeat of course being that he couldn’t stay at the club he loves, the club who loved and always will love him….

So there you go Mr Wenger, see if you can show a little more graciousness this coming season. If you can’t, then maybe its time to get your cheque book back out and buy just two more players to make sure defeat is something you don’t have to suffer!

Then you can shove Jose Mourinho’s comment’s about us not being ready to win anything, right back down his throat…..

Have a good one all…..

98 thoughts on “Gracious in defeat, not our Arsene!!

  1. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 9:00am

    Morning all….

  2. realsocialdad

    August 25, 2010 at 9:29am


  3. Erick

    August 25, 2010 at 9:29am

    Morning Rico :-) Oh Dudu our fox in the box

  4. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 9:36am

    Morning rsd and Erick…

    seville got knocked out of CL last night, guess they missed our new boy…

  5. realsocialdad

    August 25, 2010 at 9:39am

    wow erick you’ve got a word press acount

  6. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 9:42am

    How can you tell that rsd??

  7. W.A.T.H

    August 25, 2010 at 9:43am

    It’s far too early to be talking…………. shhhhhh…!

  8. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 9:43am

    Morning Rico,

    You have had a breather and it shows in the quality of your posts. Really good and different approach about the Prof’s irritable squabbles with fellow managers.

    I have to agree with you Rico about the correct thing to do, but as a member of the gentle gender, you will not necessarily comprehend the male testosterone factor.

    I am not a violent person, but sometimes I have watched and listened to nonentities like Fat Sam and Pulis and have had to restrain myself from hurling something at the screen. They are appallingly pompous in their loathsome self justification. Grr.

    Hi Erick, Big day today for your educational efforts? Fingers crossed.

    Hi RSD, how are things going. Exams for you too?

  9. realsocialdad

    August 25, 2010 at 9:44am

    he’s got an avatar
    right off out

  10. realsocialdad

    August 25, 2010 at 9:44am


  11. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 9:46am

    Morning RA,

    Thanks re the post, don’t get me wrong I would like to be first in the queue to knee Fat Sam and a few others in the groin but wenger should be above all this hand shake thing, all he is doing is giving the whole media world more amunition to shoot us down…

  12. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 9:47am

    Morning WATH, too early, you been on that GG again 😉

  13. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 9:47am

    rsd, his avatar is just a random one from wordpress :(

  14. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 9:48am


    I thought I read some thing about you studying. Got my lines crossed. :-)

    Erick’s avatar looks like a lobster not going to a party, unlike Oliver’s. :-)

  15. Erick

    August 25, 2010 at 9:48am

    Morning People RSD I have an account but am not signed in am yet to know how it works RA :-)

  16. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 9:48am

    RA, rsd is long passed exams…

  17. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 9:49am

    Thats one and probably the only thing i can help you with Erick 😉

  18. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 9:53am

    You are right of course, Rico. It does make him a hostage to fortune and allows the imbecilic attacks on him.

    The trouble is, passions boil over and the plonkers know how to goad him. He would be better to mentally “walk away” and give the briefest of handshakes, although it is v. much a british thing and smacks of hypocrisy in the professional world.

  19. Erick

    August 25, 2010 at 9:55am

    Rico you can teach me alot of other things :-)

  20. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 9:57am

    😳 Erick 😉

  21. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 10:01am

    Asmir Begovic is the next player refusing to play for his club, didn’t feel like it as the chavs want him…. Dreadful…

  22. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 10:02am

    I’d go for the ‘sloppy’ handshake, it’s horrid and will cheese of a lardy arse like Fat Sam 😉

  23. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 10:04am

    Another snippet, the dippers could struggle tomorrow in europe, away in turkey, only 1-0 up and no torres or gerrard….

  24. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 10:07am


    A “sloppy” handshake? You really are machiavellian!

    Excellent! :-)

  25. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 10:15am

    Whatever that means RA, thats me…. 😉

    You raising your carbon footprint again this morning :)

  26. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 10:20am


    Not sure which carbon footprint you mean.

    I’m not jetting off anywhere for a few weeks until I go to Cyprus, in September and then NY in October.

    I suspect I’m barking up the wrong tree, but I’m sure you will tell me if so. :-)

  27. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 10:28am

    Cyber footprint RA 😉

  28. W.A.T.H

    August 25, 2010 at 11:08am

    No GG for me Rico busy day 2day am off in a bit won’t be back til much much lata if at all so will catch you all 2moro when we have bought another few players :-) be good all……

  29. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 11:11am

    Ok WATH, have a good day, catch up tommorrow :)

  30. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 11:32am

    I’m off for a while too, back after lunch…..

  31. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 11:40am


    Sorry, just taken delivery of another piece of computer kit. I love gizmo’s. Always have to have the next “big” technological thing.

    I think I know what you mean now.

    I suppose everyone visits other sites to keep up to speed, but I can’t help myself commenting and leaving a “footprint”. This a.m. I have visited and yakked on 4 sites already. It’s addictive. :-)

    I have grown v. fond of AA, you are right about it being a good environment, the owners are good folk and it’s full of footie folk chatting. Just like your new baby HH. 😉

    See you when you get back after lunch. I will drag myself away from my new plaything! :-)

  32. oliver

    August 25, 2010 at 12:35pm

    morning all…igorning mourinho’s comments – it continues to rankle with me that we have never beaten one of his teams, but i note that he continues to talk about arsene and us, not vice-versa.

    i too wish arsene would be more gracious – actually, i wish that if he sometimes felt a need to have a dig, he would do it at some of our players, when they deserved it. i continue to maintain that he is over-protective.

    do not get me started on fat sam – i will just say that i cringed in embarrassment when he complained about the tactics they employed against fabianski last may. it worked, why shouldn’t fat sam and blackburn do it? we should have done the same to robinson, or flattened one of their players at a corner in our box. sometimes we need to stand up for ourselves…

    that said said, there are other times that i am quite proud of arsene vis-a-vis relations with other managers: his trying to physically get at curbishley after the latter taunted arsene following harewood’s goal, refusing to shake the cretin hughes’ hand after enduring f-bombs and abuse during the match from him, and constantly snubbing red nose and the post-match “drink”.

  33. oliver

    August 25, 2010 at 12:36pm

    or was it alan pardew that taunted arsene during w. ham’s 1-0 win? i forget and looking at it now, that does not quite sound like curbs…

  34. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 2:48pm

    Afternoon everyone… anyone 😉

  35. oliver

    August 25, 2010 at 2:48pm

    hi rico. i am still here…intermittently..

  36. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 3:03pm

    Hi Rico,

    Sodding new toys, I think I’ve broken my brain! :-)

    I’m sure it’s your fault, because I have to have some one to blame. :-)

  37. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 3:07pm

    What a miserable day, been shopping, got drenched and now so have the dogs… :(

    Hi oliver, RA :)

    I am so hoping the Young Boys win tonight :)

    oliver, it was Pardew when he was at WH, all but fisty cuffs on the edge of the dug-out… mind you Padrew did celebrate the goal right under wengers nose…

  38. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 3:13pm


    I need your help, desperately.

    First, we can both have big grins on our faces with last night’s results. :-)

    But my problem is that I was chatting to another Mets fan and I mentioned your comment that they were a .500 team. We got into discussing the merits or otherwise of the Yankees and the Mets in general and I suddenly realised I cannot remember how the Pct is calculated. I know it’s a ratio of course but that’s all. I’m so win/lose oriented. Then I could not figure out what the GB calculation is.

    It’s going from game to game without being to “results” oriented, and until ESPN started up seriously over here, I had not been to a game for many years. I am distraught. Is it age I am asking myself? :-(


  39. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 3:21pm


    Not a good day for shopping, but then no day is good for shopping! :-(

    It is probably the weather that has short circuited my braain!

  40. oliver

    August 25, 2010 at 3:21pm

    hi rico and ra, thanks for clarifying that. i thought curbs because it was west ham (if it were charlton, i would definitely thought curbs), but i remember that he and pardew effectively swapped jobs a couple of years back. and i think arsene actually shoved pardew, after the latter rolled up on him following harewood’s late winner?

    ra, no problem. baseball winning percentage is calculated by dividing a team’s wins by the total number of games played. in the mets case, we have played 125 games this season, winning 63 (losing 62). therefore we divide 63 by 125 to get the mets current winning percentage of .504 really good teams will generally be in the low/mid .600’s. you can take the yanks number of wins, divide it by games played and get their win percentage (i do not have their numbers in front of me). hope this is clear.

  41. oliver

    August 25, 2010 at 3:24pm

    ra, out of idle curiosity, how does the mets fan you were chatting with feel about omar and the wilpons? i think most fans’ ire is directed at jeff (wilpon), and even as general manager, omar is perceived as not having that much decision power.

    i have not spoken to a single mets fan that thinks ollie perez should still be on the team. the mets owe him 24 million in wages this season and next, that is why he has not been released.

  42. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 3:29pm

    spot-on oliver, curbs isn’t that kind of guy is he…

    Hope you guys are keeping tabs on the widget’s in the side bar…. :(

  43. oliver

    August 25, 2010 at 3:35pm

    agree. i actually think curbs a decent guy and manager – i thought he did a fantastic job getting (and keeping) charlton athletic in the prem for a few years. they even did us 4-2 at highbury during one season, perhaps 00-1?

    pardew, on the other hand,….grrrrrr

  44. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 3:40pm

    i am surprised curbs has never been offered the england manager’s job oliver

  45. 4pigs

    August 25, 2010 at 3:42pm

    Love that 3rd eye Rico!

  46. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 3:48pm

    Hi 4pigs, thanks – I hope it makes a few people smile :)

  47. agirlagunner

    August 25, 2010 at 3:51pm


    rico, in theory, I agree, but I am wildly entertained by AW’s clashes with other managers, Tango Brown, Fat Sam, Jol, O’Neill, Hughes, Maureen, Fergie. It’s been less enjoyable re: the last two though, as they have, in recent years, been winning, winning, winning unlike Le Prof…

    Eduardo is to be emulated by those who leave… I still feel sad he’s no longer sporting our colors. :( I was convinced this season was going to be his comeback…

    Helo, RA, techie. Hi, oliver. :)

  48. oliver

    August 25, 2010 at 3:53pm

    hi agag.

  49. agirlagunner

    August 25, 2010 at 3:56pm

    RA, all days are good shopping days. :) :)

    rico, the website looks exactly like what my shampoo bottle promises and never delivers for my hair: sleek and professionally-styled. Haha.

    Hola, 4p.

  50. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 3:58pm

    Thanks Oliver,

    The stats we get over here only show the Wins, Losses so the Yankees are W78; L48; Pct.619; GB –. Same as the Rays. Obviously the games played = 126, but not something a broken brain easily thinks of. 😳

    I was trying to equate the wins/losses ratio like the goals for/against in the PL. Now all youhave to do is remind me what the GB is. This is becoming embarassing. :-)

    My friend, who is over here from LA, and supports both the Dodgers, his second team and the Mets, he was born in New Jersey (?), I think.

    It was like talking to you, really. he thinks Omar is weal and ineffective but somewhat powerless.

    He did not have a good word for Ollie Perez, and was furious the Mets allowed themselves to get into that position with his contract.

  51. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 4:00pm


    weal = weak :-)

  52. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 4:03pm

    Hola Agag,

    What third eye? Why am I always missing things? :-)

  53. oliver

    August 25, 2010 at 4:10pm

    ra, a big problem is that omar is the one that resigned ollie to that huge contract. in omar’s defense there, ollie was coming off consecutive double-digit win seasons, and helped hold the injury ravaged rotation together in 2006, pitching effectively in two nlcs starts. but it seems there was not much other interest in ollie, omar was basically bidding against himself when they argeed to 3yr/36 million. and since signing that contract, ollie has been outright dreadful – and now he is a pariah in his own clubhouse. mets really should eat the money and cut ollie. jerry has no use for him and won’t pitch him except in mop-up situations – he is simply taking a roster spot that may otherwise be given to someone who can contribute…

    your friend must have supported the dodgers when they will still in brooklyn then. imagine that he loved citi field when it was opened last year – fred wilpon made sure there was more (brooklyn) nostalgia and momentos there than actual mets history. i am sure the mets felt like strangers in their brand new state-of-the-art ballpark…

  54. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 4:12pm

    Howdy agag, as always, you make us chuckle, I love the shampoo reference 😉

    I too enjoyed all the spats with the managers, but when we were a force on the field, nowadays its horrid to see wenger behave like a kid after we have be beaten, usually after we have missed 20 shots on goal and 75% possession….. 😉

  55. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 4:13pm

    RA – its in the widgets on the sidebar, HH’s 3rd eye :)

    Hector’s House 3rd eye 😆 😆

  56. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 4:19pm


    I heard somewhere that Silent Stan was on the verge of acquiring an NFL franchise for $750K. Again i was somewhat stressed out and may have been mistaken.

    Anyway, Mets P 125 W63 L62 Pct .504 GB 9 1/2

    Remind me, what is GB 9 1/2 :-)

  57. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 4:23pm


    I don’t know. Hairy arsed men showing off their headless torsos; widgets with third eyes and then their is Agag. :-)

  58. oliver

    August 25, 2010 at 4:24pm

    ra, he is trying to buy the st. louis rams outright. he already owns part of them, as well as the denver nuggets, colorado avalanche and rapids…

    9.5 is how many games out of first place they are. it was 11.5 on the weekend, so they somehow made up two full games on atlanta (and philadelphia). in the standings, a team gets half-a-point for a win and can gain another half-a-point if a team above them loses. mets are 9.5 games back because atlanta has played one more game than them. so mets will have a game on a day atl is off – if they win, they gain another .5 in the standings…

    moot point, however…as long as the offense does not really hit, they are not going to win too many games. six runs against florida last night looks good on paper, but the runs came from a mixture of singles, florida error, and two frenchy sacrifice flies. they have been the worst/second worst team in baseball with runners-in-scoring position since the all-star break…

  59. agirlagunner

    August 25, 2010 at 4:26pm

    RA, click on the links. Some pretty funny stuff. :)

  60. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 4:30pm

    RA 😆

    There was a funny clip at the end of either the dipper or b’pool game, arsene was scratching his ‘groin’ area – i searched and search but couldn’t find it, that’s the one i hope to put up….

  61. oliver

    August 25, 2010 at 4:30pm

    “gb” equals “games back”

  62. agirlagunner

    August 25, 2010 at 4:33pm

    Oi, RA. I’m really rather normal. It’s only my avatar that’s weird. But the wonly green kettle has personality, you would agree.

    rico, speaking of funny videos, did you see Theo’s where he said something to the effect that Flappy dancing is not a sight he wants to see again?? Haha. Can’t dance, can’t mind his keep… Poor guy. Oh, and it seems like Rambo can’t dance either.

  63. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 4:38pm


    In the Met games I have seen, I have been astonished at the number of times they have blown it with the bases loaded. I think I told you that before.

    I was working out how long ago it has been since I worked in the US and regularly watched b/ball, and I can’t believe it is nearly 15 years. I have since worked in Saudi, Japan, Germany and of course the UK, with extended trips all over the show. I have loved it but someone has stolen a lot of years from me! :-)

    Florida W62 L62 still have a game in hand, so it’s nip and tuck.

  64. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 4:42pm


    As a mere male I could not possibly argue with a wonky green kettle.

    You and Rico are a perfect match, a bit like two book-ends! :-)

  65. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 4:48pm

    😆 agag, poor old Almunia, wonder if he’s found himself a club yet 😉

  66. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 4:49pm

    Newcastle have transfer listed Steven Taylor, he’d be a good addition to our defence, bit of a thug but…

  67. agirlagunner

    August 25, 2010 at 4:52pm

    Well then, RA, that makes you pretty smart for a ‘mere male’. 😉

    oliver, RA, I’d like to contribute to the baseball talk but I have to paraphrase Hansen/Waddle no baseballing brain. :)

  68. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 4:53pm

    You and me both agag, i have not a clue about BB….

  69. oliver

    August 25, 2010 at 4:57pm

    agag….hahahahaha…a lot of people in queens would say the same of jerry manuel (mets manager)!!

    ra, they just do not have a lot of confidence in those situations – they are improving slightly, but still well below what it should be. the starting pitching has been much, much better than expected…but when a team cannot score runs, the pitchers have virtually no margin for error.

    this is where jerry comes in for criticism from me – he just will not drop wright or beltran further down in the lineup. both our “power” guys were ice-cold for virtually all of july and much of august, but jerry kept them in the 3-5 slots (and often back-to-back) in the lineup. so when reyes and (especially) pagan get on base at the top of the order, there is nobody to drive them in. ike has also been in the 4, 5 slots, but he is a rookie and pitchers have adjusted to him…

  70. agirlagunner

    August 25, 2010 at 4:57pm

    Maybe, Almunia will go in January, rico. He’s a nice enough fella, but he’s just not good enough for a club with serious title aspirations…

  71. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:04pm

    It must be hard for him agag, if wenger is honestly after a keeper who is to be number 1, wenger should have told him by now, its not fair for him to be left dangling only to see a keeper come in on deadline day…

    i’m hoping that squilli and one other will be announced tomorrow…

  72. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:06pm

    With Acquillani going to Juve, I wonder if the rumours about us getting Melo could turn out true…

  73. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:07pm

    and in russia they suggest we have offered 12M for akinfeev…. don’t believe that one for one minute

  74. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 5:10pm


    i think the girls are politely telling us the b/ball has to be put away for today! :-)

    Rico, Agag, I read that Winkie Wenger was supposed to show up with ‘Arry for a FIFA do re the 2018 WC.

    He did not show and the reason given is that he was busy on tfr business. Interesting if true.

    I think Taylor could be quite a good addition for us as a squad player. Who knows.

  75. agirlagunner

    August 25, 2010 at 5:11pm

    We’d be ‘hard’ if melo were to arrive, rico. I watched him at the WC and found him a bit brash and reckless. But Aquilani to Juve is said to be part of a Trez to Liverpool deal. Ack! I wouldn’t be able to stand it. I like Trez too much… (I obviously like Liverpool and would-be Liverpool star strikers.) :)

  76. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:12pm

    No no, not at all RA, as said before, yes, this is a arsenal site but you all talk about what you like, certainly doesn’t bother me :)

  77. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:13pm

    would you turn up with Arry RA? 😉

    I honestly believe Wenger is busy still sorting out a couple more players, there has to be a big one coming in too, the player that convinced Cesc to stay…..

  78. agirlagunner

    August 25, 2010 at 5:14pm

    Hardly, RA. I like reading your and oliver’s feelingly felts on baseball. :)

    Well, Akinfeev was just, last month, sending out come get me feelers… I think I’d like that. Maybe, our temperamental Russian guy needs someone to drink vodka with. :)

  79. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:15pm

    Trez has had his day agag, don’t worry about him 😉

  80. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 5:18pm

    Thank you ladies! :-)

    Won’t be long until the NFL starts and i think WATH is into that as well, or it might be JJ.

    Have you heard anything from JJ. I miss his comments and especially the feisty way he and WATH chatted to each other. :-)

  81. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:19pm

    i would prefer him to old spice agag…

    Melo, well, if it’s Melo or Denilson, who would you prefer 😉

  82. agirlagunner

    August 25, 2010 at 5:19pm

    Trez is exactly where Henry is now, football-wise. Well, they are no spring chickens. :( But they were two of the best strikers of their generation. Ah, it is but a dim memory now… But France used to play fantastic footie. Haha. Domenech ruined that squad. But then with the likes of Anelka and Evra– I cn’t say I’m fussed. :) :)

  83. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:20pm

    I miss him to RA, maybe he will pop on one day and say hello….

  84. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:22pm

    The French went the same way as England, England had McClaren, they had Domenech 😉

    I couldn’t take him seriously, he looked like a character from Thunderbirds :)

  85. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:23pm


  86. Red Arse

    August 25, 2010 at 5:24pm

    you girls have gone all technical footie.

    I noticed Agag used the term “Dim Memory”, and that reminds me I haven’t eaten since brekkers and a nice Dim Sum would go down v. well.

    So on that note, I say G’nite sheilas, see you tomorrow.

  87. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:27pm

    Dim Sum, what is that ??

  88. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:29pm

    I just googled it RA, no wonder I didn’t know it includes meat dishes, something I don’t partake in 😉

  89. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:29pm

    You gone RA, enjoy your evening…..

  90. agirlagunner

    August 25, 2010 at 5:29pm

    JJ makes me laugh cause he never minces words, and is never one to retreat from a position. And he calls Diaby and Denilson and Theo all sorts of creative things. :)

    I had dim sum for dinner, RA. With chili-garlic and soy sauce and calamansi and a can of Coke. Yum.

  91. oliver

    August 25, 2010 at 5:31pm

    rico, re: your 5:13pm, i also think arsene is working on more than one potential signing. but i do not think he pitched any signings to cesc as an inducement to stay. judging by the muted nature of cesc’s statement, i feel it was more of a matter of arsene reminding him that barca have under-bid, and that the club could not afford to sanction a transfer for the cut-rate fee barca were offering. if they had offered a more realistic bid, i think a transfer might have been done. or, if barca had just kept quiet on this, arsenal may have even agreed to transfer cesc for an “undisclosed fee” they would never want to be revealed. if the latter has an element of truth, then barca’s inability to help themselves (by keeping quite) may have scuppered this one.

  92. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:31pm

    Actually guys and gals, i’m going to call it a day too – stuff to be getting on with, how annoying…

    I’ll bid you all a very good morning, afternoon, evening, night, wherever you are and catch up tomorrow…

    Stay safe all…. :)

  93. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:34pm

    oliver, i hope on this occassion i turn out to be right and its a bit of broke barca and promise of a big player :) But i do see where you are coming from..

    Spot-on re JJ agag, he spoke from his heart…

  94. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:37pm

    oliver, going on from that, i honestly believe barca knew they had no chance this summer to get him – so, they used all the players to put pressure on both cesc and arsenal, almost to make cesc’s position to stay very difficult.

    What Barca have since learned and so have I is that Cesc remained a ‘gentleman’ throughout, i was one of the worst to slate him for not speaking, but now i know why he didn’t…. Barca’s tactics may very well have annoyed cesc as much as they annoyed all of us…

    Wenger 1 Barca 0 – at last we beat them :)

  95. agirlagunner

    August 25, 2010 at 5:52pm

    Good night, everyone. I like what you’re both saying about Cesc. However much I feel that our victory is short-lived, it’s Barca that have been exposed as so utterly declasse in all this. And I can’t wait to have our captain Fantastic well and truly back. :)

  96. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 5:53pm

    Summer 2011 agag, barca will win the next fight, i am sure

    nighty night agag, sleep well….

  97. rico

    August 25, 2010 at 6:17pm

    Looks like everyone has gone so this time i’m off for real…

    night night

  98. rico

    August 26, 2010 at 7:04am

    Morning all

    New Post up

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